NP and GI info

[Vishus]

NP stands for Nintendo Power and GI stands for Game Informer. Some of this stuff might be old, but its hard to keep up. Some threads I don't bother with because they just suck.

NP

-In the letters section the NP guys said that that SSBBrawl will just use traditional control. I thought it was going to use motion sensitive control.

"Although we expect the vast majority of Wii titles to utilize the motion-sensitive controller, we've already seen on exception with Super Smash Bros. Brawl."

-When interviewing Goichi Suda, the prez of Grasshopper Manufacture it seems that they're so poor that they admitted to a Contact sequel on a Nintendo console. He might also be talking about being poor because of the PS3's price tag. I don't want to type everything.

"But Japanese developers have no money. [Laughs] Here's surprise number two: We'll be making a Contact 2 for...um, a Nintendo platform to be announced."

Ok now check out the attachment.... I didn't think they were serious.

GI

http://boards.revolutionreport.net/index.php?showtopic=10004&st=0&p=214667&#entry214667

“(WiiConnect24) …if you’ve gotten to a particular part in a game, we could push content out to you, so you get to battle a new boss. Maybe you get a new artifact; Maybe you get a new weapon…(small bits of episodic content with WiiConnect24) that’s just one example…we see the system as something that’s going to be used by everyone in the household everyday…(like news updates/headlines?) All of that is possible…”

“(microtransactions?) All of that is possible with what it is we are trying to do. If our licensee partners want to go in that direction, it’s certainly possible in our system (we’ll give them freedom etc)”

“Our focus is on a substantially higher base than we achieved with Gamecube. We think that our strategy in terms of great core gamer games, expanded audience games should allow us to achieve that. Plus, with the stellar third-party support we’re getting, really, right at launch, that’s another major difference from what we did with Gamecube.”

[Lynk Former]

The whole SSBB sticking to a traditional setup thing is pretty old, Sakurai already told us this when they showed us the SSBB trailer @ E3 2006. But I'm sure you'll still be able to use the Wiimote + Analog attachment to play the game, just without using the motion sensor abilities.

It would make no sense if you forced people who didn't upgrade from the GCN to Wii to go out and buy a GCN controller just so they can at least play it without buying anything extra lol.

[Generosity of God]

i'm somewhat unconvinced when the SSBB dev said that it will be using traditional control methods.

it just seems hard to believe.

i would assume that Iwata would be pushing for the developer to use as many of the Wii Remote functions as possible.

also there are many ways that they could come up with for character controls using the remote's functions.

controls in SSBM were actually quite simple.

for SSBB they could have the following

analog stick = move, jump
z button = grab enemy/item, throw enemy/item
c button = shield

A button = standard attacks
B button = special moves

D-pad = taunt

pointer function can be used to dictate where item/enemy is thrown

rolling can be done by making shield + quick twist of nunchuck

i mean these are all very simple controls and dont actually need a traditional control pad.

so i'm hoping that the dev (its sakurai leading the project isnt it?) doesnt go with the traditional pad and actually thinks of a way to use the Wii Remote. the controls are simple enough to adapt to it. why not do so and have that option to use pointer/motion sensing?

[Shade Valkyrie]

Actually I can see why they maybe rather go for a traditional control rather than a "Nin-Chacko" (Remote with the Analoge Stick\c-button add-on). Playing the Smash Bros games is a very action packed experience and probably is much more comfortable with a solid controller rather than a controller consisting of two pieces attached with a wire.

Perhaps they could manage to stuff the control setup from SSBM on the remote alone, but then it would be no room for control improvements like it was from SSB to SSBM (like new moves).
It would make no sense if you forced people who didn't upgrade from the GCN to Wii to go out and buy a GCN controller just so they can at least play it without buying anything extra lol.I both agree and disagree, people with less money to spend will be more reluctand to invest in SSBB if they have to invest in a different controller just to play the game (even though Smash Bros basically is worth the money), however, if they would sell SSBB with a free GC controller boundled together it wouldn't be anything to worry about, with a little rework I think Nintendo could manage to produce the GC controller cheaper than some years ago so it shouldn't be unrealistic. Alternatively if they included a GC controller with the Wii together with the Remote then it wouldn't be a problem either (I will however be surprised if that happens).

[yoshaw]

Game Informer Full Page Scans :thumbr: :king:

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[Shade Valkyrie]

Oh, looking at the fourth page yoshaw scanned is a picture of a reworked GC controller for the Wii, perhaps it will boundled with the Wii together with the remote anyway?

However, Reggie stated that Nintendo would not develop new Wii titles that would use that controller except perhaps new 8\16 -bit games for the Virtual Console. If he's right SSBB must be using the remote, wich have been stated that it won't from the SSBB producer... so I'm getting confused here!

Acctually I think Reggie just made personal "I-belive" statement about that one, It's not the first time he have stated something that later proved to be wrong (like that time he said that Pokemon XD would be a brand new pokemon RPG when it turned out to be Orre from Pokemon Colloseum all over again with just a few new locations in the beginning of the game, bah).

I think that new reworked GC controller is what we can expect to be playing SSBB with.

[yoshaw]

Sorry for the quick interruption but, ah, one thing to clarify here. I didn't scan them myself. Got 'em off the intraweb. I only share what I find on the net so please carry on with the discussions. hehe

PS: I still appreciate the reps given. Thanks!

[Vishus]

It would make no sense if you forced people who didn't upgrade from the GCN to Wii to go out and buy a GCN controller just so they can at least play it without buying anything extra lol.

What? I don't care if they don't want to go to Wii. Not my problem.

[Shade Valkyrie]

What? I don't care if they don't want to go to Wii. Not my problem.Uhm, I belive Lynk ment people who will purchase the Wii this generation, but did not buy the GC previous generation (since MS have released their Next-gen console I consider the new generation for started).

But it's still not your problem, so don't worry. ;)

[HolyPaladin]

Oh, looking at the fourth page yoshaw scanned is a picture of a reworked GC controller for the Wii, perhaps it will boundled with the Wii together with the remote anyway?

I've been wondering why there's been so many mentions of GCN controllers. That controller pictured in the scan is the "classic controller", previously referred to as the "shell". It isn't really a rework of the GCN controller anymore than it is of the SNES controller, as it more closely resembles a SNES pad with the addition of analog sticks. GCN controllers won't be necessary since there'll be the classic controller.

[Viper]

And Phil returns the favor. *running joke*

Also referred to as the 'traditional' controler. It's been noted that it has some form of groove and digital connections which suggest it can be attached to the Wii-mote as well. Thsi would open up an immense amount of gameplay options.

[Shade Valkyrie]

Well, I say "GC controler" because it looks more like the GC controler at first because of its analog sticks and such (and me having the lack of imagination to call it something else), but I go for the name "traditional controler" from now on instead then. :)

[Lynk Former]

@ Shade: We all know that getting people to buy accessories just to play a game is crippling to that game, and we all know that Smash Bros is famous for it's multiplayer abilities rather than just single player... so including 1 GCN controller as a bundle would still be extremely limiting.

The way I see it, Brawl will, by default, work with the Wiimote + attachment. However in the options screen there will be the option for the player to switch from "default" to "expert" mode, and expert mode will obvioulsy use the GCN controller / traditional controller for those who have them. It's a very simple way to go about it that won't limit anyone, at least not anyone who doesn't really care. The option is there for the people who are really into Smash Bros.

[Vishus]

Please just the goddamn traditional controller term or use shell. GCN controller have not been confirmed to work with anything else. They haves slots for GCN controllers so you can playback your old GCN games if you have them.