U.S PS3 site up with Apple logo

[Dexvex]

DOGG from ps3forums

Find an apple logo on the ps3

cant post links but go to sonys site let the ps3 page load, go yo specs or gallery,and press back it appears real quick.

Repeat if you miss it

[LaLiLuLeLo]

YEAH. Um.....WHAT THE HELL DOES IT MEAN?

[Bad_Boy]

Not sure what you are talking about with the Apple. But I do notice that the PS3 site changed from html to flash...

http://www.us.playstation.com/PS3/default.html

Maybe something is coming soon?

[Dexvex]

um check ps3forums.com for still pictures but its an animation

[Stelio]

post a link cause I dont see anything...


- STELIO

[cliffbo]

i don't see it... where am i supposed to be looking?

[cliffbo]

YEAH. Um.....WHAT THE HELL DOES IT MEAN?

what did you see?

[Leedogg]

http://forums.e-mpire.com/attachment...d=115228713 3


I copied MILR Image link from his thread...

this could be very interesting...

edit: Now the link, works cliffbo click that link^^^

[Bad_Boy]

Ah I see it, interesting.

edit: posted at b3d, props to the finders.

[Stelio]

I saw it...thats interesting. Cant wait to hear the details. This definitely means something. But what???

[LaLiLuLeLo]

When you cycle back and forth to the ps3 picture an apple logo flashes reeeaally quickly, but it's easy to see! what does this meeaaan? something they haven't announced yet?

[cliffbo]

your having me on... can't see a thing. i feel like i'm missing out. :(

[venomv]

I can't see it, could be because I'm using FireFox? I'll switch to IE for a sec......

Nope, nothing, is it on the PS3 to the right or left?

[Loc]

http://www.us.playstation.com/PS3/default.html
http://www.team-md.com/upload/store/ps3.jpg

It shows up for a brief second then fades off, but you can still see it if you jack up the Gamma and lower the contrast.

[cliffbo]

could cell be heading for apple laptops afterall?

[Fats]

^No.

But God knows what else it could mean.

I doubt this very much, but it's a theory, could this website have been made using Apple iWeb? I mean, I can't see such an important website as this being made with Apple iWeb. It's just that that logo appears on any website that's made by this application and it states "Made on a Mac".

[Leedogg]

I don't know, I wouldn't be getting my hopes too much this early.

It may be, because the websites using Quicktime instead???

[venomv]

Ok, I just saw it, I was in the wrong spot.

[Illmatic]

That is very interesting.

Nice find.

[Loc]

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-556732046955257022

Also heres where the source of the logo came from. It came from a smoke effect that the creator overlayed onto the image, you can see the extracted version up there.

[venomv]

Crazy stuff, I am officialy extremely curious now.......

[Pumpkin Head]

This is really amazing, because the site been updated plus the apple pop up is really a shocker so does sony has something up there sleeve? I'm really desperate to know lol..

[cliffbo]

This is really amazing, because the site been updated plus the apple pop up is really a shocker so does sony has something up there sleeve? I'm really desperate to know lol..

could it just be an internet glitch?

[Loc]

could it just be an internet glitch?
Not an internet glitch. The apple logo is actually in the video source. It's either Sony intentionally put it in there or the creator is going to get a lashing. Probably Sony has something up their sleeves.

[LaLiLuLeLo]

that's possible. would they let something like that slip? hmmm...

[edoshin]

Got MY attention. Could be something major like Apple OS in PS3, or minor, like iTunes support.

[Fats]

Wow, so many posts. I'll quote myself.



I doubt this very much, but it's a theory, could this website have been made using Apple iWeb? I mean, I can't see such an important website as this being made with Apple iWeb. It's just that that logo appears on any website that's made by this application and it states "Made on a Mac".

[cliffbo]

see what these guy are saying about it. Ipod/itunes connectivity?

http://boardsus.playstation.com/playstation/board/message?board.id=ps3&message.id=463330

[frosty]

OSX or Itunes, or both.

[Fats]

Scroll down to the bottom of this random website.

http://web.mac.com/gianlucamarucci/iWeb/gianlucamarucci.com/home.html

You can see the apple which appears that is similar to the Apple logo on the PS3 website.

[edoshin]

Apple iTunes has had a bulleyes aimed squarely in its back by just about everyone, including Sony and MS, and the battles are only going to get more difficult for them. It would make a lot of sense if they somehow teamed up with Sony. But who knows what this all means.

[VG Aficionado]

Just to make it clearer:

http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/3985/ps3apple3tj.jpg

Intriguing indeed!

[makeitlookreal]

OSX on PS3 - A winning combination!

PS: And another reason to add a little more RAM!

[cliffbo]

Just to make it clearer:

http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/3985/ps3apple3tj.jpg

Intriguing indeed!

+rep. how the hell did you do that?

[cliffbo]

How long to TGS?

[Sebastiano]

False ALARM. See eurogamer article

Apple logo on PS3 website (http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=65958)

:swear:

[Fats]

I actually inverted it in Photoshop CS and it's bright as day.

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y146/specialpro/12.jpg

[VG Aficionado]

According to Top Men we know, the Apple logo is part of a video playing in the background with a PlayStation 3 overlaid.

"I'd imagine whoever made that flash is the same agency that did something for Apple," our Top Man suggested, "and they haven't reworked the video effect properly."

We await a proper official explanation.Yeah, I just saw it Sebastiano. Still, that doesn't sound too veritable just yet.

I won't hold my breath for now though.

how the hell did you do that?Gamma correction.

[Fats]

The Eurogamer article is somewhat similar to what I'm getting at. We just need proper confirmation now. :)

[cliffbo]

False ALARM. See eurogamer article

Apple logo on PS3 website (http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=65958)

:swear:

that proves nothing... 'i see no ships...' :)

[makeitlookreal]

If this is legitimate then we have a huge revelation.

If this was some mistake someone's in T-R-O-U-B-L-E knowing Sony's strict policies, but if it was just an honest goof-up I hope they go easy on the guy.

[NeoPlayStation]

KK interview:

KK: If Mr. Jobs (Steve Jobs, CEO, Apple Computer) adds an Apple logo (onto PS3) I think (users) will say it can be sold at $2,000. However it's not possible for the PLAYSTATION brand. That is the difference in the computer world between the PLAYSTATION brand and the Apple brand. Nevertheless I think PS3 can be sold as a PLAYSTATION because PS3 belongs to the PLAYSTATION brand.

KK: Therefore I wanted to put Linux from the day 1 of the PS3 release.

But it's not important that it's Linux. (In PS3) on the Cell base (Cell OS Hypervisor) you can put Linux and if you will Windows or Tiger (Mac OS X 10.4 "Tiger"). But OS itself is not a problem anymore. Because in PS3, an OS is like an application.

What's interesting for me is Mr. Jobs of Apple said the same things. I think Mr. Jobs said Windows is not more than an application on Macintosh, it's normal that an OS is there, then what's really important is what comes on top of that. Clearly what's important is software, platform, and service.

HG: Do you mean the ecosystem where softwares and services do business on hardwares starts to run like that of PC?

KK: The days when Apple was great were like that. WWDC (Apple technology conference) filled Moscone Center. If it can start to run it will become lively of its own accord.

HG: It seems Apple competes with the PS3 vision of SCEI.

KK: Rather than Microsoft, it's Apple of which vision is directly close. But, it's not like competition, on the contrary it's pleasant to be in the same place.

HG: But if PS3 is a computer it's possible to compete against future Apple products at home in reality.

KK: Of course, they are not competing now but not sure in future. In 2007 or 2008, when the Apple and Intel collaboration begins to come to fruition, naturally what they target won't be only a music player.

HG: You may clash in the domain of home entertainment computer.

KK: Yes. I think Mr. Jobs likes computer probably. Then, our visions naturally overlap.

http://www.beyond3d.com/forum/showthread.php?t=31328

[frosty]

well, it would= copyright infringement on Sony's part, for displaying Apple's logo. This is no mistake.

[masteratt]

I think Sony and Apple will hold hands this gen.

Very goosebumpy way of revealing it.
More details at TGS I expect.

Sony are playing their cards with care and mystery for the PS3.

[cliffbo]

I actually inverted it in Photoshop CS and it's bright as day.

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y146/specialpro/12.jpg

look at the top of the pic, it looks like the smoke effect of the apple vid and also just above the word playstation3 theres a line that looks like the top of the black box the smoke is emminating from.

the vid:http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-556732046955257022

so whats the black upright box in the vid?!

[makeitlookreal]

You know Apple considered utilizing the Cell processor instead INTEL's technology.

My guess is at some point Sony and Apple talked and both decided it would be mutally beneficial to work together.

For example, if Apple would create a custom OS for the PS3 fully utilizing the power of the Cell the console could seriously double as a home computer!

This would be GREAT for Sony because it would help sell more PS3's by adding an extra feature.

This wold be GREAT for Apple because they would be pushing OSX onto a device that would enter millions upon millions of homes! As people get used to OSX they might consider Apple products when considering a laptop as an example. It would be a way to introduce millions of people not only to the "IPOD" but to OSX which is really the most unique product Apple has to offer.

I seriously think that if Sony wanted to *really* tick off Microsoft that including an Apple OS on the PS3 would do the job *supurbly*.

Imagine the announcments at TGS:

1) A whole SLEW of great games utilizing the final RSX and other features of the PS3.

2) A minority report type of camera for the PS3 that would sense your location and movement in 3D space.

3) The MEGABOMB - OSX for PS3 installed on every console's HDD (with a install disk included).

Microsoft's XBox division would just pack their bags and go home early from TGS.

[Viper]

I'm expecting some form of iTunes support or iPod connectivity. Discounts for PS3 owners buying Apple products perhaps? Who knows.

[makeitlookreal]

Basically, the folks at Sony have been repeating over and over again that the OS can handle multiple operating systems. Personally, since they are in competition with Microsoft's 360 the obvious choice would be to work as closely as possible with Apple.

Personally, I think there will be the ordinary standard PS3 OS which includes the muliplayer stuff, game saves, game patches, microtransactions, and the basic webbrowser, etc.

But additionally I feel you will be able to boot up your PS3 in another mode and have a fully functional (but perhaps jut a bit scaled down) version of OSX customized to utilize the power of Cell and the RSX.

It would tremendously tick off Microsoft.

[Coded-Dude]

I think Sony and Apple are teaming up for strategic strikes against Microsoft to try and execute some sort of digital Coup De Ta......

[cliffbo]

oh my god! everyones in here! lol 44 eager PS3 fans... lovely

[Xerxes]

Apple and Sony??!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHA!! Hmmm....MAYBE.

[cliffbo]

dexvex, just two posts and look whaqt you've done! +rep fella

[Xerxes]

If Sony and Apple team up, then say goodbye to the competition!

[cliffbo]

has anyone seen the smoke yet? its definately of the apple vid. i posted it above.

[masteratt]

Microsoft fans are going to get a great laugh if this logo appearing is just a mistake of some sort...

[Fats]

Well, I personally don't think that Apple and Sony are "Teaming up" as such. I'm sure that the PS3 will offer some sort of iPod connectivity though.

[Coded-Dude]

If Sony and Apple team up, then say goodbye to the competition!

Well, it wouldn't be "easy" to unseat the king of th esoftware jungle, but MS woudl definately be ina run for their money if these to cats play their cards right.

Well, I personally don't think that Apple and Sony are "Teaming up" as such. I'm sure that the PS3 will offer some sort of iPod connectivity though.
Sony Connect is NOT going anywhere, in fact the two companies are alleged to make their softwares compatible, but htats only the begining. Expect more moves form the joint adventure.


.....lol I said joint! :smoke:

[cliffbo]

Microsoft fans are going to get a great laugh if this logo appearing is just a mistake of some sort...

not a chance. i can except the logo as just being a slight glitch, but the smoke and the black box of the apple vid, no way. this is deliberate.

[Smokey]

yeah cliff i see the smoke & line you talk of it seems like an overlay :)

[yoshaw]

The second I read the first page I thought someone played a hoax.

It's the same thing as the apple vid playing in the background. I captured the PS3 image just now and increasing brigthness/contrast/gamma whatever, I can't see the apple logo.

It's been removed I guess!

[cliffbo]

yeah cliff i see the smoke & line you talk of it seems like an overlay :)

thank christ for that, thought i'd mislayed a marble or two :)

[Xerxes]

Its still there!

[Fats]

Yeah, it's still there Yoshaw. You just have to catch it at the right moment.

[Xerxes]

Friday, May 13, 2005 - 08:22 PM EDT



The moderator of PS3 Forums, "The Unofficial PS3 H.Q." has posted the following:

Apple + Sony = PS3

I am now hearing stronger rumors that Sony is indeed working with Apple on the PS3. Most of this work is based around support for iTunes and iPop on the PS3.

iPod connectivity - Ability to connect the iPod to the PS3 and play it's music through the PS3 to your stereo or other audio playback devices. Will also provide some graphical effects on your TV during playback

iTunes linkup - Access iTunes and your music through the PS3. Purchase and download additiona tracks through the PS3. Wirelessly play iTunes music from your PC/Mac through the PS3

Sync support - Use the PS3 to sync your iPod with iTunes, no need for a PC or Mac to sync and add/remove tracks and organize playlists.

Apple may also be helping Sony with some UI design for the PS3 dashboard interface. No links, and for that I appologize, but I figured people would like to hear this information anyways. If the rumors hold true, this would be mutually benefitical for Sony and Apple in a lot of ways.

http://macdailynews.com/index.php/weblog/comments/rumor_sony_and_apple_working_together_on_playstati on_3

See?

[makeitlookreal]

You see, this is another example of a dumb little game Sony is playing with us (unless this is a very bad goof-up) because the most straitforward thing for them to do is just release a website detailing their plans with Apple. Instead, they do something sneaky like this and cause a thousand threads of debate across the internet.

Seriously, I'm excited about OSX or ITunes on the PS3, but I just wish that they would present the information openly instead of in somekind of ridiculous viral marketing campaign.

[edoshin]

Heck .. we can have fun speculating until its confirmed false.

[LaLiLuLeLo]

let's give it a couple days and see if it's still up there. but then I think xerxes is on to something.

[cliffbo]

You see, this is another example of a dumb little game Sony is playing with us (unless this is a very bad goof-up) because the most straitforward thing for them to do is just release a website detailing their plans with Apple. Instead, they do something sneaky like this and cause a thousand threads of debate across the internet.

Seriously, I'm excited about OSX or ITunes on the PS3, but I just wish that they would present the information openly instead of in somekind of ridiculous viral marketing campaign.

its working just fine though, eh. if this is true, its very clever...

[Fats]

iTunes linkup - Access iTunes and your music through the PS3. Purchase and download additiona tracks through the PS3. Wirelessly play iTunes music from your PC/Mac through the PS3

I must say that get's me rather excited.

[cliffbo]

Noting that Apple and Sony have collaborated and competed for years, Merrill Lynch said today that the next step between the companies could lead to a full-fledged partnership.

In a research note released to clients on Tuesday, Merrill Lynch analyst Steven Milunovich said his firm found it intriguing that Sony President Kunitake Ando was on stage at Macworld with Apple CEO Steve Jobs, speculating on a potential partnership between the two tech companies.

"Why did Steve Jobs say that Apple and Sony could possibly work together on computers and music? We think Apple could introduce products based on the IBM/Sony/Toshiba Cell processor," the analyst said.

Merrill Lynch believes that an Apple/Sony partnership could form around an iTunes-like iMovies store online using the H.264 codec and streaming Sony and Pixar content; a high-performance Apple workstation using Cell for video editing; or a network-centric TV with computing for handling the next-generation of entertainment feeds.

"Our thoughts represent logical conjecture and are not based on knowledge of Apple’s development plans," the firm cautioned. "Such offerings, however, would put Apple at the heart of the HD and digital consumer revolution and provide grist for further earnings increases and stock price appreciation."

Merrill Lynch reiterated its 'Buy' rating on Apple with a new price objective of $102 per share, which is supported by a two-stage discounted earnings model that assumes post-fiscal year 2006 earnings per share growth of 33% for five years followed by sustained EPS growth of 5% per year.

"Alternatively, there should be an increasing real option value embedded in the stock as Apple leverages iPod success into new product lines," the firm said.

Yesterday, UBS also raised its 12-month price target on Apple, citing the upside of Apple's software business while Piper Jaffray maintained an "outperform" rating on Apple.

http://www.appleinsider.com/article.php?id=879

it is merrill lynch though

[OmniCloud]

@MILR-U just got me a giddy again man...tks Hopefully all that stuff comes to fruition...

[lilkoy123]

is the apple logo still there?? i've been pressing back and forward for like three minutes now, and i don't see a damn thing....

[Applefiend]

Sony are the japanese Apple... Would be nice if they joined up. Even better if iTMS got on PS3s... I really doubt that though, Sony have their own Connect crap.

[Fats]

Sony are the japanese Apple... Would be nice if they joined up. Even better if iTMS got on PS3s... I really doubt that though, Sony have their own Connect crap.

Yeah, I think there's too many reasons as to why this won't happen. But we can dream. The thought of being able to run Leopard on my PS3 on a 42" inch HDTV would be an awesome sight.

[yoshaw]

I suppose I missed it at the right moment then. I'll wait and see the progress till official confirmation though. Still skeptical towards it being genuine or anything close. I'll keep a close eye on this thread :)

Thanks for the updates guys!

[cliffbo]

guys it could be a mistake if this is right:

Load up the US PlayStation 3 website, and watch carefully on the PS3 unit just above the controller. You will see a quick, subliminal blip.

Did you catch what it was? We did -- an Apple logo. It is unmistakable. Click on the above image for a higher-resolution screenshot.

We called Sony's PR and, after a few tries, they finally saw it, too. They were as surprised as we are. After finally seeing it, their response: "that's f---king funny." The PR firm is looking into it. We'll keep you posted as the story develops.

[Thanks to everyone who sent this in!]

[update 1: A poster on ps3forum, Aleman360, decompiled the flash file and claims to have found the culprit: an Apple product with smoke floating down on it. Did Sony use a trial version of Apple Shake and couldn't remove the watermark? We'll keep you posted. Thanks, bv.]

http://www.gametab.com/news/615905/

[Fats]

Yeah, just read there now that it could be related to a trail version of Apple Shake.

[Leedogg]

is the apple logo still there?? i've been pressing back and forward for like three minutes now, and i don't see a damn thing....

yea its still there lilko, watch very closely above the controller, when you load the page.

[Uzumaki]

It's nothing, just ignore it, and theres nothing to see here people so move along now.

[Beenie Man]

Yeah the Apple icon has gotten big. I am a member on the PS3forums and the topic has almost grew 8 pages in a few hours.

[MAdThor]

The background with the apple logo and the smoke.
http://web.mac.com/mouseh/streamvideo14.swf

[Fats]

[update 2: According to the PR firm, Sony will be making an official statement later today. We'll update as soon as we get it.]

Source (http://www.joystiq.com/2006/07/07/wtf-apple-cameos-on-ps3-website/)

[VG Aficionado]

Surely the official statement will just debunk the whole thing.

EDIT: The Apple ghost has been busted. (http://www.us.playstation.com/PS3/default.html)

[McLaren]

something is going on

[cliffbo]

something is going on

agreed. surely if it could be rectified that quickly, why did it appear in the first place?

[Beenie Man]

I seriously hope it has to do with a music and movie service where you can download music videos or just songs for a very small price(25-50 cents). They should also use a pre-paid Sony Playstation card.

[LaLiLuLeLo]

Surely the official statement will just debunk the whole thing.

EDIT: The Apple ghost has been busted. (http://www.us.playstation.com/PS3/default.html)

Aha.:shocked:
I see they took out the smoke effects entirely, must have been a bug with the image. It is all layers afterall.

[cliffbo]

guess it was a glitch then... fairwell cruel world

[Fats]

Huh? Why can I still see it?

Oh no, it's gone.

[Uzumaki]

Yup, told you all just to walk along.

[Fats]

Most of us knew that Uzu, there's nothing wrong with a bit of healthy speculation.

[edoshin]

Hey it was fun while it lasted. Sony got themselves some free advertisement.

[Fats]

Hey it was fun while it lasted. Sony got themselves some free advertisement.

I actually thought that this could all be a ploy by Sony to sneak some publicity in there.

[Sebastiano]

I am still seeing it. When I go to the site the smoke and logo is still there???

WTF?

[Fats]

^Perhaps it's in your cache?

[Leedogg]

Hey it was fun while it lasted. Sony got themselves some free advertisement.

you mean apple got a free chance of advertisement too,

but apple also gets a free chance to sue Sony for copyright infringement...

[Coded-Dude]

but apple also gets a free chance to sue Sony for copyright infringement...

assuming what they did was "illegal"

[venomv]

Maybe someone hacked it in there?

[LaLiLuLeLo]

I doubt that. it was probably a design thing, and there was a bug in the flash animation.

[Coded-Dude]

well; what i mean to say is I don't think Sony would be so stupid as too draw attention by breaking copyright laws. I'm sure if they purposely did it, Appple is/was well aware of their "plans."

[Jubal]

Sigh, it would have made that $600 so much easier to swallow.

[Xerxes]

So any official word yet from Sony?

[Beenie Man]

Nope.

[Goki]

damn i came to late, the logo has gone. I thouight i was blind till i got confirmation that the logo was taken away, Strange how quickly it was issued.

[Xerxes]

They are covering something up, but what?

[Fats]

They're not covering anything up imo. Nothing it going to come from this me thinks and it would seem that someone just made a mistake.

[Xerxes]

The smoke is gone. Maybe Apple created the smoke .gif?

[RavenFox]

Guys an entire ipod is in the video not just the logo. The smoke actually comes down over an ipod4gig probably.

[Xerxes]

I still don't know why the hell they would do something like that. It does not make any sense.

[frosty]

There is no way in hell it was a mistake. Something is up. Apple logo's don't just magically appear in animations, it was placed there. Sony would have denied it by now rather than staying quiet if it was a mistake.

Edit: OMFG! MAch in the PS3 forums!!! lol. Welcome!

[Beenie Man]

If it was a mistake, then why out of all signs it was the Apple logo.

[Sephiroth_VII]

Could it be this (http://pspold.qj.net/2006/Video/apple_sony.swf)? The size seems a bit off though.

Found the link at PS3updates.net.

EDIT: OMG!! We haven't had this many people in a single thread since E3!! Sony, take the hint and get OSX up and running on PS3 already!

[Beenie Man]

The PS3 isn't that skinny.

[Sephiroth_VII]

What do you mean? The video I posted is the some effect with an iPod, not PS3. Geez, if it was that skinny, they'd beat even the Wii.

[pari]

Late to the party, but I posted my opinion yesterday on this thread

http://forums.e-mpire.com/showthread.php?t=58756

I want PS3/iPod/PSP connectivity from day one of PS3 release, nothing more nothing less... I am really excited about the news and believe it would definitely come true...

[Coded-Dude]

Eagle-eyed Sony fans that visited Sony's official PlayStation 3 website earlier today were treated with split-second welcome screen showing the Apple Computer logo superimposed over the PlayStation 3 console.

Ferver erupted far and wide on numerous message boards, with people proclaiming this as proof of a collaboration between Apple Computer and Sony, or, at the very least, a sign that the PS3 will support connectivity with the iPod music player.

In truth, this was merely a case of a web designer using unregistered software to put together the Flash content on the site. Apple's Shake compositing software places a brief watermark frame of the Apple Computer logo at the beginning of every presentation produced using the trial version of the program.

Oops.

The watermark was first discovered at approximately 11:30 AM Eastern time today and was removed by 2:15 PM. Visitors to the site now simply see the presentation as intended: a splash page with links to a spec-sheet and an image gallery.

Obviously, iPod support isn't out of the question for the upcoming console, considering the popularity of the music player and the Xbox 360's current ability to stream music from the device. Nonetheless, Sony hasn't made any official announcements regarding the PS3's ability to connect to third-party multimedia devices other than the company's own PSP handheld. source (http://www.psxextreme.com/ps3-news/204.html)

[Epix]

source (http://www.psxextreme.com/ps3-news/204.html)

+rep

[Fats]

^Yup, that's pretty much what it was then. My initial watermark theory was partially correct, I just stated the wrong application! ;)

[Insane Metal]

source (http://www.psxextreme.com/ps3-news/204.html)

I knew it ! :dur:

[yoshaw]

Well, that about sums it up folks. Lets put our collective focus on asking JVD about his E3 badge now.

lol ;)

[Omegacell]

[update 4: It appears that the issue could not have come from a trial version of Apple Shake, as the save function is turned off -- thanks, Celly. Still waiting for the official statement, and repeated requests for a comment from Apple have gone unreturned.]

guys go to the joystiq site i cant post the link.

[Fats]

So wait, we're back to square one now?!

:):(:):(

[Omegacell]

That would seem to be the case yes:)

[Fats]

I get the feeling that we're clutching onto straws to be honest, but whatever, this is fun. ;)

[Omegacell]

July 7, 2006 - Earlier today, message boards across the web were set on fire with the latest PS3 rumor. Was it a new system configuration? A newly redesigned controller that included rumble and tilt sensing? Perhaps even a new price point for the PS3 itself? No, the genesis of the discussion came from a curious addition to the official PlayStation 3 website.

Astute visitors to the next generation console's homepage witnessed smoke and an Apple logo prominently displayed between the PlayStation 3 logo and the controller for a half second or more. This promptly spurred rumors that Apple and Sony might be working together on the system. A few hours later, the PlayStation 3 homepage was updated, with the smoke and Apple logo removed from the site entirely.

Cause for conspiracy, or poorly loaded Flash plug-in? While Sony representatives were unavailable for comment at the time this piece was published, it's popular theory that a third-party web design firm may have reused a Flash template with Apple icons when they designed the PS3 site, and simply neglected to remove all of the Flash layers when they delivered their work to be published. We'll have more on the story as it develops.

That was from IGN.

[Coded-Dude]

Video of the FLASH ANIMATION (http://web.mac.com/brendanjnr/iWeb/Sony%20%26%20Apple/www.us.ps3.com.html)

[woundingchaney]

Well it was fun while it lasted.

[Beenie Man]

Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo:-[

[Nameless]

It could be a viral marketing campaign or some type of huge error on Sony's part. If the logo is there in error I would imagine it will be removed ASAP!

[venomv]

It was removed. But something doesn't seem right to me. Accidentel watermark I can live with, but what about the smoke and the IPod in the background, surely that's not part of the watermark?

[Domination]

well, it would= copyright infringement on Sony's part, for displaying Apple's logo. This is no mistake.

What I wonder is why is it right smack in the center of the PlayStation console? I don't know, but it seems to be in the perfect place from what i can tell. Coincidence?

Anyhow, I would have expected immediate actions by now. Is this logo on other PlayStation sites?

[Nameless]

If Sony has anything up their sleeve we will see it at TGS...
Also, Sony has made some positive remarks in interviews regarding apple...

I don't own an ipod so I could care less, but it could be a great strategic move.

[Coded-Dude]

I have a PSP and use Sony Connect, and woudl LOVE for the itunes/connect library to be compatible. It would be a pretty large merger of, two of the largest digital media distributors, as far as total media owned....not total songs sold.

[frosty]

As I said, Sony would have immediatley responded with a rebuttal refuting the apple logo. They did not. It was removed, but no statement was made. This means they know we know about it, but still chose to remain silent... If it was an accident, they would have said it to be so.

[senas8]

Hmmmmmmmm:)
Im sure its not related, but a while back K.K. was interviewd by IGN? if someone recalls...and I briefly remember him praising Apple and how Sony wanted to be like apple to some degree...anyways im to tired to search for this interview.

[Angeljuice]

Hmmmmmmmm:)
Im sure its not related, but a while back K.K. was interviewd by IGN? if someone recalls...and I briefly remember him praising Apple and how Sony wanted to be like apple to some degree...anyways im to tired to search for this interview.

Yeah, there's a link in the forum (somewhere).
Chucked a whole heap of praise in their direction, I just put it down to, you know, "the enemy of my enemy is my friend", but it looks like there could be more to it.

[makeitlookreal]

I agree with you Frosty. I think this was more than an accident. By now Sony would have made some kind of formal statement if it was just a big goof-up. Also, it seems Apple could have made a statement.

Personally, I think the most logical thing for Sony to do with the PS3 is to have Apple produce a custom alternative OS for it included as standard on every HDD or perhaps on a disk with each unit. It would truly make the PS3 a COMPUTER (like Sony is pushing for), give people another reason to purchase the PS3, help justify it's higher cost, and at the same time help Apple push OSX into millions upon millions of homes! I think it would be good all around for everyone involved.

I think this was some kind of twisted viral marketing campaign.

[Jubal]

Wasn't sony supposed to have issued a statement yesterday?

[Fats]

^Yes they were, they're certainly taking their time about it.

[Pumpkin Head]

^ It really seem strange sony is taking their time, they might have a surprise for us at tgs/possible sooner.

[VG Aficionado]

It was Jostiq who said there would be an official statement. And I don't trust Jostiq at all.

[Chrome]

It was Jostiq who said there would be an official statement. And I don't trust Jostiq at all.

Yeah they and a few other sites are very bad for news.

[solidsnakejej]

Here is their official statement
In an official statement Sony said:

In a recent update to the PLAYSTATION 3 section of www.us.playstation.com website, an external error was made during the upload process and the Apple icon was mistakenly placed on the site. We immediately fixed the problem and apologize for any confusion this may have caused. Source (http://www.kotaku.com/gaming/ad/sony-apple-logo-was-a-mistake-185854.php)

[Leedogg]

Here is their official statement
Source (http://www.kotaku.com/gaming/ad/sony-apple-logo-was-a-mistake-185854.php)

I went to www.us.playstation.com and I could not found that statement, including looking at the press release page.

Until, I hear it from the horse's mouth, I'll take the statement with a grain of salt.

[raVen]

well whatever sony says from here on out is either gonna be a cover up and well have to wait to the reveal it to us hopefully at tgs or its gonna be the truth... basically half of us will believe their official statement and half wont... I will be the latter, I think something is up between apple and sony.

[venomv]

A watermark still doesn't make sense to me, what is they smoke and the I-Pod in the background doing there then? I think someone did it on purpose, even if Sony didn't tell them to. That's my take anyway.

[Revenge]

Remember this?

This isn't massive news, because any CPU can, in effect, run any operating system if you strip it down enough, etc. However, Sony says that the Cell "new multi-core 3.2GHz Cell processor developed jointly by IBM, Sony Group and Toshiba will support a variety of operating systems, such as Linux or Mac OS X Tiger." Notice they didn't say it will run Windows. This is a very telling, oversight. It's so cute to watch these guys dig at each other all the time. It's like Mean Girls.

http://www.gizmodo.com/gadgets/entertainment/ps3s-cell-chip-can-run-osx-115881.php

[pari]

Mac OS X ran on PowerPC chip, so its easy to port Mac OS X to CELL with slight modifications. Only Windows NT ran on PowerPC, so windows would not run unless MS ports it to CELL and no way MS would do that.

I do not believe kotaku, it is only of the worst or rather anti-PS3 gaming site. For kotaku, everything about PS3 is worse. I checked the official playstation website and did not see anything. So agree with Leedogg would only accept it, if its from official channel.

If this news is true, I cannot imagine the Major Nelson's reaction, it would be truly hilarious nor Peter Moore's reaction either. It would be fun... to watch MS reaction...

[makeitlookreal]

Sony is obsessed with secrecy. I doubt they would have allowed that to happen unless this was some type of viral marketing campaign.

You are correct. It would be pretty easy to port OSX over to the Cell processor. The only slightly more difficult part would be to program the OS to use the SPE's to their fullest, but I think Apple who had ALREADY CONSIDERED using the Cell as their new processor in their own computers would have too big of a problem with that.

If I was Apple I would be begging Sony to let me make a version of OSX for the PS3. It would be a way for my company to expose millions upon millions of people to OSX and get them used to the way Apple software functions! It would be good for Sony and be good for Apple!

When planet quest gets up and running (the new distributed computing program where you are looking for even Mercury sized planets around other stars and if you find the planet or moon of a large planet then you get to name it) I would love to try it out on my PS3! Just imagine how fast the Cell would probably crunch through the numbers! Additionally, just think of all the people who like the idea of trying out OSX for ordinary stuff, but don't want to pay the high price of *most* Apple computers. By purchasing the PS3 you would get both an Apple OS and of course a great gaming console.

If Apple and Sony are NOT working together then I think they are making a big mistake and are BOTH losing out. Their both in competition with Microsoft and by working together they could *really* give MS a run for their money!

[Applefiend]

only slightly more difficult part would be to program the OS to use the SPE's to their fullest
Nah, that would be a huge project requiring XXX amounts of engineer man years. Even the amount of time required to recode QuickTime for the SPEs would be huge.

This is why Apple went with Intel. Mac OS X for Intel... All ready to go, Mac OS X that uses Cell well... Years away. Well, reason 1 of 100.

But if you want a Tiger or a Leopard that just runs on the PPE, peice of cake. You can get a lot of stuff done on that.

[Viano]

Linux + XMB that's pretty much what you'll be getting I think.

[jaxmkii]

I think Sony and Apple are teaming up for strategic strikes against Microsoft to try and execute some sort of digital Coup De Ta...... firts its Cou de ta...

and cou de ta meads to overthrow from within

this would be more like the reunification of true germany:salute: :salute: :salute: :salute: :salute: :salute: :salute:

[jaxmkii]

Well, that about sums it up folks. Lets put our collective focus on asking JVD about his E3 badge now.

lol ;)
yea whats up with that?:wtf:

[Xerxes]

I still think you would be able to hook up your Ipod to the PS3 and drop music using Sony's service.

[CreativeWriter]

firts its Cou de ta...

and cou de ta meads to overthrow from within

this would be more like the reunification of true germany:salute: :salute: :salute: :salute: :salute: :salute: :salute:

coup d'etat. It's French, and there's an accent on the e that I don't know how to make online...

[OmniCloud]

what the hell is this World History 101?

[CreativeWriter]

@Omni

:lol:

[Applefiend]

Linux + XMB that's pretty much what you'll be getting I think.

As the say, QFT...

[stanDarsh]

Steer this thread back on topic or it will be locked

[xbdestroya]

Frankly I think it was just the Flash creator messing around. If it was purposeful on Sony's part, the official response would probably be something other than 'this was an external error...'

[CreativeWriter]

Steer this thread back on topic or it will be locked

I see buzzards flying in circles...

[frosty]

I don't see this as an official response until further confirmation.

[woundingchaney]

Frankly I think it was just the Flash creator messing around. If it was purposeful on Sony's part, the official response would probably be something other than 'this was an external error...'
Agreed

Although the concept of Apple and Sony interaction for the PS3 is very interesting.

[PhYmon]

Well I can see it happen the Apple and Sony interaction cuz both companies want to shut down Microsoft, but I still cant see the apple :( I want to see it.. how long do I have to wait until it shows up?

[Fats]

It's gone now PhYmon.

[PhYmon]

Too sad..

[cliffbo]

don't know if you saw this pic phymon:

http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/3985/ps3apple3tj.jpg

[frosty]

Take note of this:

1. the apple logo is centered underneath the playstation logo, but not in the center of the screen (where the playstation 3 logo sits). Almost as if it was meant to be underneath something.

2. It is also centered at the exact middle point between the logo and the controller.

This seems a bit difficult to pull off if you are just leaving behind a forgotten flash layer. would it not be at some other part of the screen, rather than perfectly centered under the logo of the PS3? Even the controller is a little off center (to the right) but the apple sits dead center under the PS3 logo, as if it were meant to be on the console.

[cliffbo]

by the way the apple in the vid and the apple on the PS3 are different shapes... mmmmmm

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-556732046955257022

[PhYmon]

I saw it already but I cant believe what I havent see with my own eyes.. Well u got that right cliff. u can see the shape of a box around the apple.

[venomv]

by the way the apple in the vid and the apple on the PS3 are different shapes... mmmmmm

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-556732046955257022

I noticed that to, thought maybe I was wrong.

[cliffbo]

i think we aught to forget this now guys. we're setting ourselves up for a huge disappointment. duel RSX is still on the cards though. lol

July 7, 2006 - Earlier today, message boards across the web were set on fire with the latest PS3 rumor. Was it a new system configuration? A newly redesigned controller with tilt sensing AND rumble? Perhaps even a new price point for the PS3 itself? No, the genesis of the discussion came from a curious addition to the official PlayStation 3 website.

Astute visitors to the next generation console's homepage witnessed smoke and an Apple logo prominently displayed between the system's PlayStation 3 insignia and the controller for a half-second or so. This promptly spurred rumors that Apple and Sony might be working together on the system. A few hours later, the PlayStation 3 homepage was updated, with the smoke and Apple logo removed entirely.


The image that ignited the firestorm.
Was this cause for conspiracy, or a poorly loaded Flash plug-in? Sony representatives told IGN this shortly after the fiasco was corrected: "In a recent update to the PlayStation 3 section of the playstation.com website, an external error was made during the upload process and the Apple icon was mistakenly placed on the site. We immediately fixed the problem and apologize for any confusion this may have caused."

In more specific terms, the Apple Flash templates weren't entirely exorcized of all their layers (including the one with the Apple symbol) when they were initially uploaded to the official PS3 website. The result was the temporary Apple logo while page loaded and the mania took off from there.

Mystery solved.

[edoshin]

I think a Sony + Apple collaboration, despite the logo, is still a more realistic possibility than dual RSX.

[my name is Nobody]

I think ign took that from kotaku. The reason I say that is ign doesn't
say how they came by that information just thats what happend, so
how does ign know that? I have less then zero faith in ign or kotaku and
since those are the only websites reporting the same thing I will wait for
a official press release from sony. Although I am not really interested in
sony and apple working together on itunes I can see why poeple would
be so I will take a wait and see approach about this partnership even
though I think that they are probably working together.

[Coded-Dude]

Sony says that the Cell "new multi-core 3.2GHz Cell processor developed jointly by IBM, Sony Group and Toshiba will support a variety of operating systems, such as Linux or Mac OS X Tiger."

This is the first official statment, but all links to the "official article" are broken. alleged link (http://www.sony.co.uk/view/ShowArticle.action?article=1121156666920)

[Rai]

this is exactly what Sony and Apple need

[PhYmon]

I think a Sony + Apple collaboration, despite the logo, is still a more realistic possibility than dual RSX.
I think the other way.. Ok Apple wants to dethrone MS from the OS business, and Sony wants the same but in the console space, it makes perfect sense but it wont happen, I cant explain u why but I dont see it coming.. the thing that I can see coming is the dual RSX (multicore) cuz when I talked with ND he told me that he has contacts that confirmed that the RSX will have not just one core.. So I believe him. (I know it was offtopic a little.)

[pari]

Dunno how much it is related to this thread or forum but the MS DAP would be Xbox branded player, with a xbox branded software music player and music store, uses XNA for programming so forth.. ie in short tightly integrated with xbox. So its better SONY and APPLE work to together, PS3/PSP/iPOD/iTunes working together...

Cliffbo, we can show our love to SONY, but I want SONY & APPLE to show some love between and SONY show some love to us by working with APPLE...

[frosty]

Sony says that the Cell "new multi-core 3.2GHz Cell processor developed jointly by IBM, Sony Group and Toshiba will support a variety of operating systems, such as Linux or Mac OS X Tiger."

This is actually a very old statement. Which is why I feel that this could be the real deal.

[senas8]

No wonder MR.Gates calls it quits...I kid I kid. :)

[jaxmkii]

http://ps3subliminal.ytmnd.com/

[wildcardd]

You guys, don't get your hopes up.

Sony (or whoever did the website) used the smoke from an Apple video showing off the Ipod. That is why you see the box in the background, it is a Nano. They just got lazy and didn't remove the nano from the pic.

Look here:
http://pspold.qj.net/2006/Video/apple_sony.swf


Can Sony do anything right these days?