BluRay movie playback

[gnznroses]

i was reading in Popular Mechanics, they tested a $1000 BluRay player. they said (at 1080p resolution) most of the movies looked surprisingly grainy. they also said it took 30 seconds to boot a disc and 5 seconds to change chapters. of course they also looked at HD-DVD players a month before and said it took them 2 minutes just to boot a disc.
they advise that nobody buy either format because the first-gen hardware isn't up to par. so, is ps3 gonna be any better at it?

[Applefiend]

Have to point you at my review... hang on...

http://forums.e-mpire.com/showthread.php?t=60055

Basically it's like this. There's only one player from Samsung, who make a whole bunch of LCD panels and are pretty good with that but are no home cinema buff favourite like Sony or Pioneer. But those players are coming. HD DVD have come out of the gate very fast with disks that use the latest codec, Sony and Lionsgate have come out with disks that use the old codec, cos their authoring system is a bit early and lame. But Blu has only been out 2 months, so what you gonna do.

Are Sony going to do a better job at making a BD player than Samsung? hell yeah! Don't worry. The main suckage in Blu Ray is the content, not the players.

But the situation is changing, Warner have made some very, very nice Blu Ray disks that are a kick in the ass away from HD DVD quality, around 5th of next month you very well may see BD disks that have the new codecs and HD DVD or better quality.

The 2 minutes to boot a disk is old news btw, the Tosh player has upgraded firmware and does much better now. About a minute now I think... Not sure. It's a Pentium 4 PC in a box with an HD DVD drive, hence, bad boot times.

[VG Aficionado]

A minute to boot a movie... :barf:

[Applefiend]

Yeah, minute, minute 30 now, something like that.

The Toshiba HD DVD may it be a PC in a box, but it's quite an old PC in a box, so doesn't boot that fast.

Hang on... *counts* 21 seconds on the Samsung, original V1.0 firmware, may be faster now. Sammy is a real consumer DVD device, no PC in a box.

[woundingchaney]

Have to point you at my review... hang on...

http://forums.e-mpire.com/showthread.php?t=60055

Basically it's like this. There's only one player from Samsung, who make a whole bunch of LCD panels and are pretty good with that but are no home cinema buff favourite like Sony or Pioneer. But those players are coming. HD DVD have come out of the gate very fast with disks that use the latest codec, Sony and Lionsgate have come out with disks that use the old codec, cos their authoring system is a bit early and lame. But Blu has only been out 2 months, so what you gonna do.

Are Sony going to do a better job at making a BD player than Samsung? hell yeah! Don't worry. The main suckage in Blu Ray is the content, not the players.

But the situation is changing, Warner have made some very, very nice Blu Ray disks that are a kick in the ass away from HD DVD quality, around 5th of next month you very well may see BD disks that have the new codecs and HD DVD or better quality.

The 2 minutes to boot a disk is old news btw, the Tosh player has upgraded firmware and does much better now. About a minute now I think... Not sure. It's a Pentium 4 PC in a box with an HD DVD drive, hence, bad boot times.


Agreed

Bad problems with software for early models, one should not let this determine the future of all BR players. Although I think this is an outrageous mistake to make at the launch of a flagship format it will be quickly looked over with the release of superior stand alone players and the PS3 itself.

[VG Aficionado]

Hang on... *counts* 21 seconds on the Samsung, original V1.0 firmware, may be faster now. Sammy is a real consumer DVD device, no PC in a box.Oh, so you have one of those! Hasn't Samsung released the due firmware update yet?

[Applefiend]

Samsung are saying September for updated firmware.

I'm waiting on someone to do me some hacked firmware, most of the Sammy players seem to get it. There are advantages to the Sammy player. :)

Get full region free, DIVX playback. Lovely jubbly... :)

[VG Aficionado]

Nice, Applefiend.

Anyway, I hope PS3 can boot a BD movie in some 15 seconds or less.

[frosty]

yeah, that damn anti-noise circutry. I saw that player at bestbuy and there was static all over the screen.

[Applefiend]

Yup, the noise is worst at 720p over hdmi with Lionsgate disks. It's like a snow storm.

You can tell which are which, old firmware models have an hourglass wait icon, new ones don't.

[gnznroses]

wonder if ps3 will upconvert dvds? popular mechanics claimed to be only to tell a slight difference in hd-dvd and upconverted dvd. personally, i don't believe that tho.

[woundingchaney]

wonder if ps3 will upconvert dvds? popular mechanics claimed to be only to tell a slight difference in hd-dvd and upconverted dvd. personally, i don't believe that tho.
I believe it will, although up-conversion cannot be done over component it must be done by hdmi, dvi, vga etc.

[Smokey]

ill be using HDMI>DVI at the moment till i get a NEW HD plasma/lcd with HDMI>HDMI and it looks as if i should get a HDCP compliant one :)

[frosty]

You can upconvert over component. The wire in no way restricts the players ability to process and render the upconverted image.

[Hrama]

Yep, I believe Frosty is correct. My dad's 80$ Samsung DVD player upconverts DVD's at least for both HDMI and Component I believe.

[woundingchaney]

Its not the connection that stops the upconversion its the rules and regulations put on upconversion itself. Many players used to upconvert over component now it isnt seen.

Component upconversion is a thing of the past (well for those of us not wanting to cheat anyways).

I may be wrong but this was true last time I looked into it, or it may just be a region thing.

[Hrama]

Hmmm maybe so. I didn't know there were any rules and regulations on it.

[woundingchaney]

Hmmm maybe so. I didn't know there were any rules and regulations on it.
Yeah its reasonably new, thats why the 360 can only upconvert over VGA (I was looking into upconverting players about a year and a half ago and was only seeing mentions of this).

Although I believe the issue has something to do with certain regions as Im seeing region free players headlined as being able to upconvert over component (although this could be older models) but anyways it may be fair to say that if you want upconverted DVDs with the PS3 your going to need another connection other than component.

[Nameless]

I'm curious to see the quality of BD movies running on my 1080i set...
I noticed during the interface demo there's no 1080i setting only 720P & 1080P. Hopefully I will have some answers come November... ;)

[VG Aficionado]

I noticed during the interface demo there's no 1080i setting only 720P & 1080P. Hopefully I will have some answers come November... ;)*ahem*

http://img86.imageshack.us/img86/8219/3ce1.jpg

[Leedogg]

Why does it have 1080i before 720p???

I guess I'm just nit picking...

[LaLiLuLeLo]

Because interlaced isn't that cool.

[yoshaw]

Why does it have 1080i before 720p???

I guess I'm just nit picking...

No your concern is right. From whatever I know, If we look at it from a general HDTV broadcast perspective then 1080i is ok because there aren't any really fast moving scenes involved in day to day broadcasts.

It's just that in the context of a videogame system, which has lots of fast moving scenes obviously. A progressive approach is the best way to go because it can handle those scenes more perfectly than an interlaced picture.

Besides, majority of videophiles believe that 720p picture is largely superior to 1080i. Seems like Sony is also in the same camp as them ;)

[Hrama]

Well, I guess Sony would qualify as one of those "Majority of videophiles" seeing as how they actually make the TV's, games, movies, Tv broadcasts etc. Yep, I think they would qualify.

[woundingchaney]

Umm it could be based off of data rate/transfer and thats why 720p comes after 1080i.