Lair

[VG Aficionado]

For some reason, IGN has released many old screenshots for a number of games. If you ask me, that sudden burst of screenshots means that we'll see a lot of new footage soon. I'd say that Sony is starting to show some more stuff and they finally released some old screenshots that had leaked previously before they release the latest ones.

I'm just guessing, but I think it's a given we'll see a lot of new stuff soon.

[BruceWayneIII]

^ I agree, they are warming up. Probably spending March by warming up and then flip the button on the big media spend after EU launch.

[GTAce]

GDC guys, GDC.
There are the big announcements, new videos and infos etc.
I bet we will se a lot more stuff from LAIR on the GDC.
When is Harrisons keynote? On the 7th?

[VG Aficionado]

When is Harrisons keynote? On the 7th?Yeah. 8 days :heybaby:

[LaLiLuLeLo]

wokka wokka!

[GTAce]

Yeah. 8 days :heybaby:

Hehe that was a good one.^^

[Rip3001]

I can see this game being another Resistance in the eyes of the haters.

"The levels are all the same and have no variety...for the 10 mins I played it at my friends' house."

"That's not what dragons look like...at least not in my dreams..." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dragon

"My 360 could do this...just look at...um...er..."

"Suckaxis sucks...Wiimote is better...I've almost caught all the elebits...yeah..."

"All you do is fly around on a dragon and breath fire, booooring...I'm going to go back to gears and shoot things...maybe play GRAW and shoot some more things."

[OmniCloud]

I can see this game being another Resistance in the eyes of the haters.

"The levels are all the same and have no variety...for the 10 mins I played it at my friends' house."

"That's not what dragons look like...at least not in my dreams..." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dragon

"My 360 could do this...just look at...um...er..."

"Suckaxis sucks...Wiimote is better...I've almost caught all the elebits...yeah..."Yeah but that's just people who have a 360 and 360 only as there main console. It's natural to defend your purchase. Everyone else who see's and plays the game will be wowed....The visuals are definitely gonna be there, if the gameplay matches-it's another must-have, simple as that.

And I'm confident the gameplay will certainly match up to the visuals judging by everyone's Rouge Squadron comments.

[EvilTaru]

I can see this game being another Resistance in the eyes of the haters.

"The levels are all the same and have no variety...for the 10 mins I played it at my friends' house."

"That's not what dragons look like...at least not in my dreams..." - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dragon

"My 360 could do this...just look at...um...er..."

"Suckaxis sucks...Wiimote is better...I've almost caught all the elebits...yeah..."

"All you do is fly around on a dragon and breath fire, booooring...I'm going to go back to gears and shoot things...maybe play GRAW and shoot some more things."

Why would one even care about the haters?

[Applefiend]

If they hated Resistance, who cares about their opinion anyway.

There are many opinions, it just so happens thinking Resistance is cool happens to be the correct one. :)

[Shogun042]

dddddamn O_O @that last screen.

as for haters, more of my friends (who are also 360 or Wii owners) are considering getting the system around summer time with all this stuff coming.

[Kabbage]

More LAIR Shots.... Have these Been posted yet?

Giant Dragon-Wurm thing:
http://i13.tinypic.com/42vxyxi.jpg
http://i16.tinypic.com/2mg08ow.jpg

Top-Shot of Giant Manta thingie?
http://i17.tinypic.com/43fywdx.jpg

[Z]

Yeah but that's just people who have a 360 and 360 only as there main console. It's natural to defend your purchase. Everyone else who see's and plays the game will be wowed....The visuals are definitely gonna be there, if the gameplay matches-it's another must-have, simple as that.

And I'm confident the gameplay will certainly match up to the visuals judging by everyone's Rouge Squadron comments.

correction: it's natural to be an ass if you miss something.

[section]

I like wurms. And mantas. Dynamic LOD FTW.

[Z]

pics like that giagantic, Shadow of the who?, serpent dragon eater monstrosaty slams the game's size x10 times in my poor preception of sheer openess.

in other words, I never thought the game would be this big, especially while being this freakin' detailed!, when I first say it.
wow. O_o

[Coded-Dude]

I wonder how long it will take to FLY from one side of the WORLD to the other.........:drool:

[Rip3001]

I wonder how long it will take to FLY from one side of the WORLD to the other.........:drool:

If there's one thing I learned from Jackie Chan, it's 80 days...

[gibmonster]

More LAIR Shots.... Have these Been posted yet?

Giant Dragon-Wurm thing:
http://i13.tinypic.com/42vxyxi.jpg
http://i16.tinypic.com/2mg08ow.jpg

Top-Shot of Giant Manta thingie?
http://i17.tinypic.com/43fywdx.jpg

Oh...my...god. I have to go to uni in a few minutes and now I won't be able to concentrate.

[Shogun042]

Check out some of the latest Lair details. Some pretty impressive stuff will be happening with this game.

To flap the dragon's wings (allowing you to fly faster), simply press the X button.
You can also extend the dragon's wings (slowing you down).
To get a quick boost of speed, you can press the circle button.
To lock-on to enemy dragons and turrets, hold down the L1 and L2 buttons until the lock-on reticule turns red.
The face buttons are used for various long-range attacks such as firebreathing and fireballs.
If you are close enough to a dragon which you are locked-on, you can start to attack them physically.
Controlling both the movement and physical attacks of the dragon is done via the motion-sensing.
By tilting in a certain direction, the dragon will fly in that corresponding direction.
You can perform dives, sideswipes, etc. with the motion-sensing.
If you pull back very quickly, your dragon does a 180 degree turn.
When doing physical attacks in the air, you can aggressively move the controller into the direction of the enemy dragon, and slam into it.
Occasionally your dragons will grapple, and you can press a random combination of the face buttons to claw, slash, and even bite the other dragon.
Also, you will occasionally have the chance to jump off of your dragon, and land on an enemy's, where you can kill either them or their dragon, or even both. This is also executed via the face buttons.
On the ground, motion-sensing is also used for steering.
If you slam down the controller, you can cause your dragon to slam his feet down, causing shockwaves on the ground, which damage enemies.
Also, if you move it back and forth, you can slash at enemies, and even eat some of them to regenerate your health.
Fire-breathing is controlled via a face button, and you can aim the fire with the motion-sensing."

"Lair supports native full HD 1080p graphics and 7.1 uncompressed audio [1] and also takes advantage of the following technologies:
Progressive Mesh is a technique rendered by the Cell microprocessor, which allows for an intensive amount of detail to be placed upon vast amount of objects, both up-close and far away.
High-Dynamic Range Lighting: All of the lights, shadows, reflections, and highlights in Lair are in HDR, and are rendered in real-time by the Cell and RSX, thus allowing the lighting scheme to completely change, just like the time of day does in-game, however, due to the advanced programming of the lighting system, it will be ever-changing, and rarely, if ever the same twice.
Real-time Dynamic Physics: Every second of gameplay, Lair renders hundreds of physics effects on everything from your dragon, down to the cloak on an enemy soldier. All enemies and allies have their own physics-driven animations, and have individually programmed ragdolls.
Real-time Fluid Dynamics: All of the water effects in Lair, such as waves, are run by real-time fluid dynamics on the Cell.
Parallax Shaders: Parallax shaders are used on almost every object in Lair, including fire and clouds.
Real-Time Renderings/Volumetric Effects: The fire in Lair is rendered in real-time, and has its own physics. All of the clouds, smoke, and fog effects are volumetric. Lava, rain, wind, fur, and more are also rendered in real-time."


http://www.ps3power.com/index.php?subaction=showfull&id=1171337134&archive=&start_from=&ucat=13&

[GTAce]

Ohhh baby ohhhh baby! +rep.

[Raijin]

Posted on Feb 12 2007... Old?

[VG Aficionado]

Definately not new, but we will know more about Lair this week. No need to lock this thread :-p

[GTAce]

Lol really?
Never mind its cool. 8)

[Shogun042]

hm well, new to me.

17 hours 38 minutes til Phil's keynote.

[Jay Gee]

hm well, new to me.
Ditto for me. Enjoy your rep, sir.

[GaiusBaltar]

Any word if the May release date is still gonna happen?

[Shogun042]

nah, no word, i assume we'll find out in about 14 1/2 hours at Phil's keynote.

[GaiusBaltar]

nah, no word, i assume we'll find out in about 14 1/2 hours at Phil's keynote.

Can't wait till tomorrow, I don't know the last time I've been so excited to hear potentially great news about everything from the firmware update to 'home' and release dates

[EvilTaru]

I wuv HDR.http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v500/EvilTaru/Indifferent2.gif

[VG Aficionado]

http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.ps3fanboy.com/media/2007/03/lairdarkpic.jpg

GDC 07: Normal maps make Lair look good! (http://www.ps3fanboy.com/2007/03/07/gdc-07-normal-maps-make-lair-look-good/)

Mattias Worch, technical art director for Factor 5's upcoming PS3-exclusive Lair, recently spoke to GDC attendees about creating textures and normal maps in a next-gen environment. The very technically-oriented lecture can be effectively summarized as such: "Lair looked really crappy until we used normal maps. Now it looks really good. You should all use normal maps."

Developers were told how to use Photoshop to accentuate and restore detail from textures. Also, artists need to have a clear vision before making a single texture: "Unless you know what you want to do with a normal map beforehand, it'll look wrong."

Afterwards, Worch showed off some incredible footage from Lair, running off a PS3. The graphics, while still glitchy, show a huge deal of promise. Of particular note were the incredibly lifelike water effects: when a ship explodes on water, you'll see realistic, physics-intensive, ripple effects that must be seen to be believed. The Factor 5 team clearly is doing something right: the textures were absolutely breathtaking, even up-close.

Worch promised the audience that his Powerpoint presentation would be made available for everyone to download on his personal website in the coming days. More excitingly, he also promised new videos of the game. Stay tuned.

[OmniCloud]

Just stop it with the PS3 is awesome already...It's too much out of the ordinary for me....lol

[acousticvan]

Just stop it with the PS3 is awesome already...It's too much out of the ordinary for me....lol

agree, too much good news to handle

[LaLiLuLeLo]

so puurrrty.

[Z]

quick, someone link us to thatshittysite.com to cool us down!

[LaLiLuLeLo]

www.1up.com

[Z]

lol

[VG Aficionado]

New screenshot in GDC's presentation (http://worch.com/articles/gdc/!GDC2007_mworch.pdf)

http://xs313.xs.to/xs313/07115/newlairpic1.jpg

[bigwig]

looks damn HUAWGE, straight from gameplay too...very nice

peace

[Red_Eyes]

New screenshot in GDC's presentation (http://worch.com/articles/gdc/!GDC2007_mworch.pdf)

http://xs313.xs.to/xs313/07115/newlairpic1.jpg

HOLY SHIT!

[orbtronik]

yep. i just crapped my pants...

[OmniCloud]

So there was a video demo at GDC? The scope of some of these games are really something else. Lair, Heavenly Sword and Warhawk are all doing this....

[Z]

to think everything is running in rendered in real-time, everything is native 1080p, that large, that wide...all gameplay.

O_o'

[Fats]

to think everything is running in rendered in real-time, everything is native 1080p, that large, that wide...all gameplay.

O_o'

You said it. My initial reaction was simply, "Holy shit!". It would seem to me that we're getting a steady trickle of shots from various games which are making a lot of people say, "Holy shit!".

[VG Aficionado]

And 10K soldiers on screen and 7.1 lossless sound and HDR and procedural water and normal maps and appropriate motion sensing control and 1024 (32x32) square km levels that take up 4 GB of disc room each and *head explodes*

[Fats]

God, it just looks so immense. The amount that's going on screen is unbelievable.

[OmniCloud]

^Yeah that's what I'm talking about, all these exclusive titles are doing this it seems. Maybe Cell with make a difference much earlier than we though huh?

[curryking1]

Uhhhh....... uhhhhhhhh................. uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh........

I think I'm gonna retract all my statements about Lair, they still apply to previous, earlier shots....

But those remarks certainly don't apply to this. Ok... wait... that's about the craziest mofoing piece of picture in a while. Dayyuuuum!! That looks intense!!!

It's so good, it's making it hard for me to say good things.... I don't even know where to start. It looks like.... like....... oh man... this is HUGE!

[OmniCloud]

LOL...I think you're speaking for many of us in that post Curry!

[Kabbage]

That isnt real, noobs.

I will believe it when I see it. It cant be, it just Cant!!!

[user friendly]

What do you mean by real? Of course it's not real, it's called a video game. Its totally in game, you can tell by the clouds.

[Fazares]

the ps3 is beginning to impress us for real...

[Jay Gee]

That looks like a real war. I'm very impressed by that screenshot. Just knowing that you can swoop in and get down and dirty with anybody visible in that screenshot is quite arousing.:DDD

[Shogun042]

holy.

shit.

that will be all.

[makeitlookreal]

That is a very nice pic.

[evillion]

OMG! Lair's sense of scale once again bleeds my eyes. the enormous amount of detail is truely breathtaking, watch your back Crysis! if u take a closer look there're even warships in the sea! amazing! I SO NEED THIS GAME RIGHT NOW!

[Z]

this game should be called "a technical demo on steroids that got out of hand...and PS3 is a big junkie that can handle it!"


That is a very nice pic.
what? no bitching? that isn't like you MILER. are you feeling okay? look at soldier No. 312 on the lower left upper corner. he has two left arms! blasphemy!
and soldiers still do not have realistic chest movements to indicate breathing!
this game is digital shit!

[Acason79]

We need more media on this beautiful game. A demo would be even better so we could wreak our own brands of carnage and experience this epic scale for ourselves. Cmon Sony make it happen! :p

[VG Aficionado]

http://forums.e-mpire.com/showpost.php?p=1450773&postcount=554 :-p

[makeitlookreal]

Z,

You asked for it. Let me bring it on!

Quite frankly, I think that it's overall a very nice pic. However, the background buildings and structures don't look quite as detailed and realistic as I would like. Also, I think the dragons could be a little more highly detailed. This game is NOT perfect.

However, it looks very nice.

[Sephiroth_VII]

I think that would require more than 512 MB of ram. There's a limit to the details with only 512, I guess.

[Nameless]

^^ I agree with you based on that pic, but I would love to see the game in motion on a 1080P display. My brother recently purchased a 1080P display and Ridge Racer looked amazing in 1080P you could see a significant difference in clarity and sharpness... I have the gut feeling that this game is going to be amazing on a high end setup with 7.1 sound and 1080P display.
(I think this may be the first TrueHD sound encoded media released.)

The 1080P 1.3 HDMI displays can't get here fast enough so I can upgrade! ;)
I already have the 7.1 sound covered...

[OmniCloud]

What's the word on Lair's release? I know Heavenly Sword got pushed to Fall, we now know Uncharted is slated for Winter, Warhawk for Fall as well, so what's up with Lair:huh:

I hope Sony doesn't cram September and October will all these titles man, I won't have time to play all of them and some amazing games may get overlooked as well...

[Shogun042]

uh last i heard the devs were still trying to shoot for May or June, and i thought Warhawk was coming in June/July?

hm didn't know Heavenly Sword got pushed so far back. i hope these titles come out in a timely manner.

[LiquidEagle]

Last I looked at my store's release list, it's coming May 7th or so, somewhere around there. I really hope that's correct because playing this game 2 months from now would be sweet, and having it come out right after Spider-Man 3 would make early May a very glorious time (much like early March was fantastic with 300, MotorStorm, and God of War 2 all coming out + Casino Royale & Children of Men :-D)

[cliffbo]

What's the word on Lair's release? I know Heavenly Sword got pushed to Fall, we now know Uncharted is slated for Winter, Warhawk for Fall as well, so what's up with Lair:huh:

I hope Sony doesn't cram September and October will all these titles man, I won't have time to play all of them and some amazing games may get overlooked as well...

better late than not finished

[9thPower]

wasn't the game 80-90% finished? Wheren't they just polishing the game? I thought it was stated for may.

[VG Aficionado]

Yes, they started polishing the game a few weeks ago because it's pretty much finished.

[Shogun042]

^ nice! so it should see a May release. can't wait, i'm coming off of getting like 3 Blu-ray movies, MotorStorm, and a beastly headset this month, not to mention the update coming this week before the Euro launch. i've got the Home beta (which i hopefully get into), downloadable content for RFOM April and Rainbow 6 Vegas, and then Lair and who knows what else in May.

i like the direction things are going... :rockon:

[OmniCloud]

Yeah, looks to be a great year for PS3...

This is the first time I've ever been an early adopter. I usually wait a year after the system comes out. Glad it's paying off sooner than later..

[Nameless]

Last interview with the developers stated that the game was in the final stages and they were adding polish and optimizing the performance...
I think May is a real possibility if all goes well.

I already know the lack of online support is going to be the major gripe regarding this game. Even if the game is incredible people will complain about the lack of multiplayer support. I plan to rent this game, but if the reviews are strong I may purchase the title.

[VG Aficionado]

They always said it's a single player game. Complaints about the lack of multiplayer gameplay are nonsense.

[Nameless]

^ You know how it goes man...
People are way too demanding and expect every game no matter the genre to have online play... If they plan to offer expansions via downloads and support some type of leaderboards that's adaquate IMO.

[VG Aficionado]

Yeah, people just complain about everything these days :realmad

[LaLiLuLeLo]

They always said it's a single player game. Complaints about the lack of multiplayer gameplay are nonsense.

agreed. why people gettin' bent out of shape over this now?

[Zer0-Sum]

I would rather have a super deep single player for this game than a semi deep single player and and have multilayer too. Heck if they want to add on multiplayer later they can just make it downloadable and that is that. Bring on the FIRE!!! YAH!! FIRE BURN FIRE!!!!!

[LaLiLuLeLo]

Man I really don't need multiplayer IN EVERY GAME I OWN. You fly around on dragons and set shit on fire. Yeah, we totally need some online multiplayer..
okay.

[cliffbo]

the most important aspect of any game is the single player game IMO. Multiplayer is rapidly becoming the lazy devs excuse for extended play and the single player is suffering as a result.

think about it this way: if you were a dev and you knew you could create great graphics but you lacked the ability to tell a good story, what would you do... CUT COSTS by putting out an half assed singleplayer and then bang on continuously about how great the multiplayer is and how fantastic the weapons are, in the hope that no-one notices its really only the shell your getting. MS will push this aspect in the future when storage restrictions really kick in.

prediction: 'i think that what people want from a game is a strong multiplayer option. most people don't want to sit through hours of CG, they just want to play and we at MS are going to give the player exactly what they want' you wait and see!

[Diresu]

the most important aspect of any game is the single player game IMO. Multiplayer is rapidly becoming the lazy devs excuse for extended play and the single player is suffering as a result.

think about it this way: if you were a dev and you knew you could create great graphics but you lacked the ability to tell a good story, what would you do... CUT COSTS by putting out an half assed singleplayer and then bang on continuously about how great the multiplayer is and how fantastic the weapons are, in the hope that no-one notices its really only the shell your getting. MS will push this aspect in the future when storage restrictions really kick in.

prediction: 'i think that what people want from a game is a strong multiplayer option. most people don't want to sit through hours of CG, they just want to play and we at MS are going to give the player exactly what they want' you wait and see!

Not to mention if you skimp on the SP and use MP as an excuse, you have a reason to leave out fmv and cutscenes in general...YAY for saving disk space!

[Azu-san]

I know Heavenly Sword got pushed to Fall

Ummm... No it wasn't. The devs themselves said that they'd like Heavenly Sword to be the first "REALLY BIG" game of PS3. Even taking into consideration that they might think LAIR doesn't have what it takes to be one, they can't delay it forever as there are other potential releases coming before Fall (isn't DMC4 slated for a August release?) and even Phil Harrison has, IIRC, said how Ratchet & Uncharted are a couple of Sony's own weapons during Fall/Winter '07 and Heavenly Sword, LAIR, Warhawk & Singstar will be released before that.

And I somehow doubt it'd still take them like 6-7 months to release Heavenly Sword when it's been in the alpha stage for a while now (meaning they have no new features to add into the game and it's mostly about polishing everything before release). I'd say June-July timeframe is a likely release schedule for Heavenly Sword.

[Nameless]

^ August at the earliest...

[VG Aficionado]

I'd expect Heavenly Sword between September and November. I'm sure there will be an important HS presence at Leipzig's Games Conference in August though.

[OmniCloud]

I'm going with August too man...But I hope I'm wrong.

btw-August is considered Fall right?

[Azu-san]

btw-August is considered Fall right?
I've always thought it's the end of Summer. Maybe if it's a really cold summer, then it might seem like Fall already, but yeah... I've always thought August as being the end of Summer.

Oh well, anyways I really doubt Heavenly Sword will be released between September-November. That's too late, not only considering the possibility that there might even be some surprise releases like Sucker Punch Studios' new game, Wipeout PS3, SOCOM PS3 etc., but also because the devs have said they are mostly polishing the game up (just like LAIR). So... yeah, June would be the "at earliest" date, imo, and July the one that seems most likely. Maybe the beginning of August too. I remember God of War being released in the Summer in Europe and it was a million seller, so that shouldn't stop them from releasing it in the Summer.

[VG Aficionado]

http://www.gamestop.com/common/images/lbox/270005brp.jpg

Final US cover?

[VonGak]

^^^ reminds me of the old epic movies, not too bad.

[LaLiLuLeLo]

that's a badass cover. Yeah, heavenly sword was in the updated EB release book for august :mad:

[Z]

I really love the PS3 cover design not having anything abstracting the cover art from top to bottom. it really makes the cover shine and look more like movie posters. :)

[curryking1]

Man, I'd buy that just to have the cover, that thing is hot.

[julps31]

I don't know...looks too wide to be real to me. Unless the image was skewed some how. But the art is great.

[LaLiLuLeLo]

UH, have you seen the ps3 boxes? Blu-Ray boxes are shorter and wider than dvd boxes.

[woundingchaney]

One of the best covers I have seen in a while.

[Z]

no matter how it ends up like, you know it's going to own. ;)

[julps31]

UH, have you seen the ps3 boxes? Blu-Ray boxes are shorter and wider than dvd boxes.Well exccccuuuuse me mister i got a PS3. I really don't see the boxes enough..i'm still used to looking at my PS2 dvd boxes lol.

[Jay Gee]

That cover is incredible.

[cliffbo]

I'm not kidding you guys. XD

The European website from Playstation has been updated with three new release dates.

Lair and Heavenly Sword for May 2007, Singstar for June 2007.

Since Lair and Singstar are very likely to be true, this means we should trust the release date on HS...

is this true?

[curryking1]

Why don't you go to the website and find out? ;)

I don't know lol! Someone check fast! :D

[LaLiLuLeLo]

Well exccccuuuuse me mister i got a PS3. I really don't see the boxes enough..i'm still used to looking at my PS2 dvd boxes lol.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v368/Lalilulelo/haha.gif

[cliffbo]

Why don't you go to the website and find out? ;)

I don't know lol! Someone check fast! :D

i did and thats exactly what it says?! HS too

[curryking1]

I'd go by that word, simply because the official site's word, even though people there make mistakes too, is the best to go by. The only better word to go by would probably be an official press release about the specific release dates.

This is only one step down on the 'scale of officiality (word?)' from a press release I think lol.

If they are both for May, well.... that's great then lol.

[VG Aficionado]

It wouldn't be the first time the official site is wrong regarding Heavenly Sword.

I'd expect Heavenly Sword by September and Lair sometime between May and July.

[LiquidEagle]

I personally think Lair's on track for a May release, and that cover art is ridiculously hawt.

[julps31]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v368/Lalilulelo/haha.gifLol...i see how it is. Don't cross my lawn. :gunner: Damn whipper snappers...

[Shogun042]

for those who do not feel like navigating to the UK PS3 site:

http://img243.imageshack.us/img243/2638/screenshot1gu7.png

For Lair.

http://img293.imageshack.us/img293/5310/screenshot3um7.png

Heavenly Sword.

http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/451/screenshot2vl4.png

For SingStar.

[Acason79]

If Lair and Heavenly Sword releases in those months damn thats gonna be an awesome summer when you mix NG Sigma in with it. I will pray to Jesus,Buddha,Mohammad and whatever other gods their are to please let the games be released on those dates!!

[LiquidEagle]

I might have to retract my earlier statement about Lair making May -- in our computers at my work it's now listed for 07/31/07 release :'( WTF!?

There's always a good chance that our computer is wrong though :laugh:

[Diresu]

^That seems kinda far of considering the game is suppose to be pretty much finished...I hope its sooner then that...

[LiquidEagle]

As do I.... As do I.

[frosty]

they did say they were like 90% complete, right?

[Diresu]

they did say they were like 90% complete, right?

Indeed they did. They also said that last 10% is the hardest....

[casualkiss]

With the huge investment needed per title, I cannot understand why a publisher would risk investing in a game without online play.

I am much more likely to rent single player games and purchase multiplayer. And I am sure people who sell their games second-hand games (boo!) are less likely to undermine the noble efforts of developers if they get more mileage from online play.

[LiquidEagle]

Never stopped us from getting Metal Gear :-D

[Diresu]

Never stopped us from getting Metal Gear :-D

So true...

[Shogun042]

or Final Fantasy, God of War, etc...

[Z]

or Hello Kitty.

[curryking1]

Zing!

[Afrikan]

why is singstar only 720p.....come on.....

[rpgamer_2k5]

come to think about it, I don't recall a serious dragon game. there is the Panzar Dragoon or something from SEGA, but that's really a flight arcade game with a dragon instead of a plane. it just doesn't feel true to the dragons image. That is Panzer Dragoon, Zwei and Orta. Those were rail-gun games. Panzer Dragoon on the other hand was an RPG and wasn't arcadey at all.

This game and the Panzer Dragoon series are definitely different, though. LAIR is more action-oriented adventure which would likely exceed the original Panzer Dragoon in story but fall behind Saga in this area. Music is another area Saga was extremely strong in. I haven't heard LAIR's soundtrack yet so I won't compare but if it exceeds Saga - all I can say is wow.

I can't believe noone thought about it or done it sooner. dragons are one of the main themes for games, movies and books. along with pirates, ninjas/samurai, aliens are like the basic first steps in these things. True. Dragons have been untouched.

[rpgamer_2k5]

or Hello Kitty. or the fact that I see more multi-player titles being sold at barter rates than Hello Kitty.

I'm off to purchase some FPS for $5-10. :XD:

[VG Aficionado]

why is singstar only 720p.....come on.....The interface could very well be 1080p, but I don't think there are many 1080p videoclips at all. You also have to take into account that it'll always be easier to download 720p clips from the store.

[cliffbo]

has anyone noticed it say 720p for Lair?

[VG Aficionado]

has anyone noticed it say 720p for Lair?Yet another reason to stop trusting the official site.

[Shogun042]

pretty sure it still says 1080p

http://img243.imageshack.us/img243/2638/screenshot1gu7.png

http://uk.playstation.com/games-media/games/detail/item48455/Lair/

[Segitz]

I can think of a good dragons game...

Drakan - The order of the Flame was very well for its time, sadly I never got the second part (PS2 only and very short on cash back then).

I loved that game, played it thru several times!!

I hope it plays a bit like that one!

[Segitz]

Just to add to that...

Lair already is rated by Pegi (HS is not), at least the Sony site says so...

Could this really mean, we get Lair soon? I really hope so! My PS3 is starving for new discs!

[cliffbo]

pretty sure it still says 1080p

http://img243.imageshack.us/img243/2638/screenshot1gu7.png

http://uk.playstation.com/games-media/games/detail/item48455/Lair/

ye, my fault i read it wrong :)

[VG Aficionado]

Lair, Heavenly Sword not coming in May (http://www.gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?aid=23945)

[Passive]

Lair, Heavenly Sword not coming in May (http://www.gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?aid=23945)

NOOOOO :'( bloody hell.

[Applefiend]

Personally I've stopped buying games until October anyway. Got too many.

Keep Heavenly Sword until it's done, it has to knock God of War 2 out the park, to be honest I have grave doubts they can do this. Same goes for Lair.

[Jay Gee]

Drakengard for the win, biznatches. What an awesome OST the first game had. And the old female dragon with the incredible, yet ominous words of wisdom? Badass. Love those games. If I weren't knee deep in Rogue Galaxy, I'd be playing those titles right now.

[Segitz]

Just fyi. In Deanocs blog, he says (posted in the beginning of March) that they are done with alpha...

I cant be that long off now, can it?

And since pegi and esrb ratings are not done without a complete game, I think, we have 2 games in the near future, that will give us much nice time.

Maybe IGN was right, when they pulled Lair to the 9th of April last week^^

[Z]

I think around July would be better. I also don't think Sony would release both Lair and HS in the same month.

[Shogun042]

so what is coming out in May? and April for that matter.

[Segitz]

As of now?

Nothing it seems^^

We cant elaborate it, until Sony gives ANY confirmation!

[Z]

I see May as being too soon for something like these two. maybe something in the likes of Assasin's Creed, GRAW2, SC, Burnout or something.

[LaLiLuLeLo]

GODDAMNIT. Stop pushing games back I need them.

[woundingchaney]

A summer release for this title would keep interests up in a traditional sales slump for consoles as well as put it on the shelves with little competition. I havent seen too much due for release this summer and either HS or Lair could prosper during these months.

[BruceWayneIII]

^Singstar will be big this summer though (and the Eye3 camera)

[curryking1]

http://www.playsyde.com/news_4178_en.html

1080p shots! XD

Best looking ocean.... EVER!

Caught these via Numenta @ TXB.

http://images.playsyde.com/gallery/public/5172/999_0001.jpg

Looks amazing! Holy crap! :D

[CrumCon]

goddamn amazing,

now they should focus on the AI of the ground soldiers, cause they all moves like dumb bugs

[Grovestreet]

What the hell?

The Water (http://images.playsyde.com/gallery/public/5172/999_0002.jpg)

Woooow.

[VG Aficionado]

The water looks better in motion :) Procedurally created waves by Cell FTW!

[dnpmakkah]

Damn NDA's

[chartwel]

i cannot wait till may. this game and heavenly sword better be shown at sonys gamer day.

[curryking1]

Sony's Gamer Day? What the ***k is that hahahaha. When is that? Hopefully they'll show off a lot of the earlier releasing stuff at this event.

[Fredag]

http://img211.imageshack.us/img211/8445/lairat3.png

He could eat that dragon in ONE chunk! :D

Imagine it with 7.1 sound, and that monster attacks you from behind. You hear the sound, and when you turn around, all you see is a gap of teath...
:buldge:

[curryking1]

You BETTER be able to move the camera around really freely...

[Diresu]

Sony's Gamer Day? What the ***k is that hahahaha. When is that? Hopefully they'll show off a lot of the earlier releasing stuff at this event.

Remember the post E3 little media meeting thing from last year? Where they just did a round table with all the major media people and announced a bunch of things. That was gamers day.

[curryking1]

Wow... I don't at all remember that lol. Thanks for the heads up! I look forward to any bits of news and media we'll get from it then.

Any dates for the 2007 one?

[Diresu]

Wow... I don't at all remember that lol. Thanks for the heads up! I look forward to any bits of news and media we'll get from it then.

Any dates for the 2007 one?

I would imagine it would be the same time, few days after E3. I don't think there is an official date since I seen a topic on ps3 forums asking for a date as well and noone had a sure answer.

[curryking1]

Would it be before E3 this time? Since E3 used to be May I guess. Or maybe they intend to have it after E3 still.

Anyhow... hopefully it's soon lol.

[Diresu]

Would it be before E3 this time? Since E3 used to be May I guess. Or maybe they intend to have it after E3 still.

Anyhow... hopefully it's soon lol.

I would think it would be after again, but yea I wan't it to come soon too because I want some big announcements for a change.

[Shogun042]

well shit.

So when is it coming out? Not until September, according to the most recent release schedule. Hopefully the time being put into the game will help make sure it's as good as we hope when it finally does land on PS3.

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=161370

not sure how credible that is but i REALLY hope that isn't true. i want to fly flaming dragons in May/June.

[Siraris]

http://media.ps3.ign.com/media/761/761161/imgs_1.html

The screens on here look FABULOUS. The ones posted earlier look like crap :|.

[LiquidEagle]

My store's computer still has it listed for 07/31/07 (I check it every day I work :laugh:), but I'm hoping it'll make May by some miracle... :'(

This game would be great for a July drought though :)

[Fredag]

I can wait. They need to make this game EPIC! :D

But the demo while waiting would be nice...

[Diresu]

I can wait. They need to make this game EPIC! :D

But the demo while waiting would be nice...

I think Julian said he had people working on a demo for it at one of the interviews...

[Z]

you know what is the most amazing thing about the size of that beast, the oceans, the lighting, and everything else? they are all actually running and being rendered in real-time. it isn't fake. your Cell is actually doing all that live right before your eyes!

[VG Aficionado]

well shit.

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=161370

not sure how credible that is but i REALLY hope that isn't true. i want to fly flaming dragons in May/June.I learnt not to trust CVG a long time ago. Never.

[saud264]

i wish a big update

Jeremy Dunham
Editor in Chief, IGN PlayStation Team


Ever wonder what the else is going on besides that blasted bridge?

We'll tell you (and show you) later today

[GTAce]

Uhhhh +rep. 8)

[VG Aficionado]

I hope a big update means the release date is close!

[chartwel]

hopefully some nice HD footage. i cannot wait. i hope this game is living up to the hype.

does anybody find it strange we are all of a sudden getting info on these games with E3 right around the corner? seems strange to me that they would keep this and heavenly sword so tight lipped and then give up the goods before their next show.

[Kabbage]

I doubt it is big at all. IGN needs hits to its ps3 section :)

[Kabbage]

Where is a link to the supposed thing... I see nothing on IGN

[SleazyBig slim]

hopefully some nice HD footage. i cannot wait. i hope this game is living up to the hype.

does anybody find it strange we are all of a sudden getting info on these games with E3 right around the corner? seems strange to me that they would keep this and heavenly sword so tight lipped and then give up the goods before their next show.

Thats for two reasons, first off these games are coming this year, so they must begin heavily marketing them now, thats why we're getting new screens, previews ect, ect... Second reason is Sony will likely use E3 to announce new games, and give us updated info on games we've heard announced, but have zero info on. Games like Killzone, 8 days, AFRIKA ect...

[saud264]

Where is a link to the supposed thing... I see nothing on IGN

in IGN boards

[Z]

I am already sold on all the 1st party games- all of them. I only want to be able to buy them. so just tell me when their out.

[chartwel]

in IGN boards

yeah, you have to be a subsriber, which i am :) lucky me. your not missing anything though, thats all that was said.

[Sephiroth_VII]

If there are any trailers, we're counting on you to upload the HD versions to megaupload ;)

[chartwel]

If there are any trailers, we're counting on you to upload the HD versions to megaupload ;)

i wont fail you............

[saud264]

If there are any trailers, we're counting on you to upload the HD versions to megaupload ;)

i wish i can upload trailers BUT i can not becuse we have the worst internet service in the world

the max upload speed is 16 kb

and before that megaupload site blocked in KSA :(

[Z]

i wish i can upload trailers BUT i can not becuse we have the worst internet service in the world

the max upload speed is 16 kb

and before that megaupload site blocked in KSA :(

we have another Hell-born people. move along, nothing to see.

:help:

[Cless]

hope to see something big.

[Sephiroth_VII]

i wish i can upload trailers BUT i can not becuse we have the worst internet service in the world

the max upload speed is 16 kb

and before that megaupload site blocked in KSA :(

Dude, I respect that you're able to stay alive not alone post, with that kind of bandwidth!! :buldge: I guess there won't be any PSN or Home for you :ohno:

[Shogun042]

how later is later today?

[Z]

Dude, I respect that you're able to stay alive not alone post, with that kind of bandwidth!! :buldge: I guess there won't be any PSN or Home for you :ohno:

actually, he can. with an upload of 16k, I'd say he has around 30K for download. that means he has a DSL connection of 256k. and with that, you can not only access PSN, but actuall play games online. I played Resistance with someone on the other side of the globe and he was using 256k connection. it was lag free.
dedicated servers+Cell FTW!

[Cless]

OMG

Preview up with new screenshots!!!
http://ps3.ign.com/articles/780/780120p1.html

http://ps3media.ign.com/ps3/image/article/780/780114/lair-20070412015713861.jpg

Lair: Beyond the Bridge

April 12, 2007 - Though we've already seen Lair a number of times and a decent stash of screens and videos have been released, details about the game beyond the recognizable "bridge level" have been kept rather mysterious. Sure, we've known about some of the game's mechanics -- the ability to physically assault other dragons, take to the ground to do battle and more -- but we've only seen these elements in small doses. This past week, however, Sony and Factor 5 gave us a couple of hours to dig our heels into Lair to get a fiery taste of what's to come in some of the game's opening levels.

One of the biggest lingering questions about Lair right now is its current status and expected release date, so we'll get that right out of the way. The version we saw was an alpha build, but it sounds like the game is pretty close to making it to beta. Factor 5 says that its development process makes for a quick progression from the "first alpha" to the final finished form, and that we can expect to see Lair on store shelves this July. Indeed, dragon battles on our PlayStation 3s are a mere three months away.

Not only will you be able to buy the game in July, but Factor 5 also confirmed that there will be a downloadable PlayStation Network demo at some point. It's unclear as to whether the demo will hit before the final release or after, but isn't supposed to be too far off either way.

In order to keep Lair's story at an extremely high level of production, its tale is told in a very linear fashion. However, individual missions will allow for branching goals, giving players the ability to play them as best they see fit. If you don't want to worry about the troops on the ground and would rather focus solely on the skies, you can go ahead and do that.

Speaking of the ground, many folks have assumed for some time that you're able to get off your dragon and partake in a little hand-to-hand combat. It turns out that this isn't true. While it may have made for more variety, Factor 5 says that this not only doesn't make sense from a character perspective (you're a dragon rider and not a soldier), but that the studio has put its development efforts towards gameplay variety in other areas. While you will find yourself on foot on some occasions (such as at the start of the game), these sections are simply there to enhance the experience a tad as your only goal is to get to your dragon and take to the air.

Although you won't actually be able to take out a mace and jump into unarmed battle, you will be able to land your dragon and cause havoc while on the ground. Once you've touched down, you're able to ram through soldiers and other beasts, unleash spreads of fire and more. Pressing the Triangle button orders your dragon to eat a hapless and unfortunate soldier, giving it back a bit of health. One of the major design elements that the studio wanted to get across as well is that the dragons aren't simply planes but creatures that are capable of waging physical combat and so forth, and to this end it looks like the studio has accomplished its goal.

As for those other elements of gameplay variety, Factor 5 promises that Lair will continuously introduce new systems to the player throughout the entirety of the adventure. Though you'll begin by simply flying around and killing dragons and peons as you'd expect, you'll eventually learn how to pick up and throw creatures (like horses), grab onto objects and shake them loose to cause structural damage to the environment, earn advanced physical attacks and more. The studio is keeping mum on exactly what other things we'll see, but we've been promised that there are "major" changes to what you'll be able to do in at least one point of the experience.

These other mechanics will not only help keep Lair feeling fresh, but will provide necessary ways to win battles with enemy dragons and the other miscellaneous creatures. Your dragon's fire attack will work against the weaker creatures, even the low-end dragons at the start, but the bigger dragons you'll see more often as you progress will be virtually immune to fire and you'll need to take part in some physical work to get rid of them.

You've no doubt seen footage of some of these tactics, like being able to jump to another dragon and dethrone its rider or slam into the beasts to take them down. By targeting another dragon and then ramming into it, you'll be placed into a bit of a one-on-one combat scenario where you can perform these moves. Jolting the controller to the side will cause your beast to slam into the other and hopefully knock it out of the sky, though you also have full control over your speed and such so you can perform advanced techniques, like quickly slowing down to toss in a couple blasts from behind.

These battles look reasonably cool, but the Sixaxis control recognition still needs a tad bit of work before release. If you move the controller up at all while trying to slam another dragon, which you will often do naturally if it's above you at all, it will cause you to perform a 180 spin. Useful in air combat, you likely won't mean to do this while trying to rough up another beast. Unfortunately, this happened to us more than a few times on accident, though hopefully the controls will be tightened up a little before release.

The physical attacks are important not only for taking out dragons and such, but boosting up your Carnage meter as well by netting you bigger multipliers. Measured in tons of damage, your Carnage meter will be part of what works towards earning your end-level medals in the game, which work very similarly to what Factor 5 did with medals in its previous Star Wars games. These medals will earn you new moves and other rewards, and tie directly into your online leaderboard ranking. Though there won't be any sort of multiplayer, you will be able to track how good you are via the game's online leaderboard. And speaking of rewards, Lair is one of the first games that will officially make use of trophies for PlayStation Home. Details behind what you will earn them for are scarce, but they will be included even if Home isn't scheduled to launch until after Lair is released.

Some environments in the game will indeed be destructible, though it's on a case-by-case and level-by-level basis. In missions where one of your goals is to outright attack and attempt to destroy a city, you'll find plenty of objects that break apart. What we saw didn't feature too much of this, with most of the destruction delegated to things like barrels, crates and other scattered objects, so we'll have to wait and see to find out just how much this is true for other sections of the game.

As for other whiz-bang technology goodness, Factor 5 confirms that the game will run at a rock-solid 30fps at both 720p and 1080p. The game indeed ran quite well when we played it, with nary a hitch in framerate to be found. This is rather impressive as levels can be as large as 32x32km in size, which is allowed by Factor 5's use of streaming mesh technology, an offshoot of level of detail models.

Lair also makes use of a fluid dynamics system for its impressive water technology, which looks fantastic even up close. This means that boats and objects are actually buoyant and float as they naturally would. Explosions cause waves in the water, which in turn rocks anything that the waves come across. The fluid dynamics do look to be surface based, meaning that water can't spill over the sides of boats and cause them to sink, but it is rather impressive nonetheless.

The use of this water technology is evident in the game's first level, "Day of Terror." Enemy ships approach your shores by sea, so you take to your dragon and are charged with taking them out. After destroying a good dozen ships or so, a fleet of dragons heads your way. This is where you'll get your first real taste of air combat and it's clearly the game's bread and butter.

One thing we noticed is that being as dragons are hard to distinguish from a distance, your dragons have red fire while your enemies' have blue. This makes it a bit easier to tell them apart, though you'll still have to play a bit of a guessing game from time to time. Flight control is reasonably easy, though as you're using the Sixaxis for input it isn't perfectly precise. This setup still works, though, as dragons aren't mechanical planes and do have a will of their own, making the controls feel a bit more believable.

Once you know who you want to take out, a lock-on mechanism will set them in your sights. Unleashing a single breath of fire will toss out a large ball of flame while quick, successive shots will be smaller and weaker until you give it time to recharge. All of this works fine in theory, though there are still a couple of kinks that need to be worked out, namely the fact that when a locked-on dragon passes by you the camera will follow it in an awkward manner and you'll have no idea where your own dragon is heading anymore. Once you flip back, you could very well be face-to-face with the side of a mountain.

In a later level, "Blood River," enemy armies and catapults are attempting to destroy a cargo vessel carrying goods to your city. Taking out the catapults is easy work, but a fleet of dragons are close behind, as are large mantas carrying thousands of troops. Once these soldiers hit the ground, the battle becomes hectic and you need to manage your attacks well. One of the goals here requires that you take out 2,000 soldiers before your city is destroyed, which seemed to be a rather slow-going task as they're spread out a bit. Heading to the ground and running them over works better than being in the air, but 2,000 men are not quickly trampled.

One of the cool things about the ground armies is that the game plays out these battles in something of an internal RTS engine. The two armies fight independently of your control and the outcome isn't set in stone, so sometimes unintended things will happen. This means that you won't always know whether or not your army will be able to hold off the enemy and you'll have to swoop down and take out a few soldiers of your own to sway the battle back in your favor.

As much as we had a chance to see of Lair, there's still plenty more that we don't know about it yet. As mentioned, the game is currently slated for release in July with a downloadable demo hitting the PlayStation Network sometime around the same time. For now, head to our media pages and have a look at plenty of new screenshots and HD videos.

[Jay Gee]

Not impressed with the texture hair, but the armor is BADASS.

[Pluto]

Holy smokes. That image was unbelievably smooth looking!

Why do the dragons in the game always look high? Droopy eyed dragons.

[GTAce]

WAAHAHAHAHAHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOEEEEEEEEEE!111 (http://ps3media.ign.com/ps3/image/article/780/780114/lair-20070412015721158.jpg)

OMG those graphics....

+rep dude!

[Venat]

HELL YEAAH !! fucking rep +

Reading don't disturb .

[Shogun042]

holy HELL those graphics are off the FUCKING CHAIN.

[NeoPlayStation]

OMFG! (http://ps3media.ign.com/ps3/image/article/780/780114/lair-20070412015719392.jpg)

[GTAce]

Guys im HYPED!!1
That looks crazy holy shibididbidimdum.

Heavent read the preview because i KNOW IGN will distroy my hype LOL.

[Insane Metal]

The pics are terrible, they seem so fucking upscaled. But the videos are just gorgeous !!!! O__O

[Shogun042]

megaupload anyone?

[Jay Gee]

OMFG! (http://ps3media.ign.com/ps3/image/article/780/780114/lair-20070412015719392.jpg)
Wow, Morgan Freeman on the PS3. And here I thought I was gonna have to wait for the Blu-Ray re-release of Outbreak.:spiny:

[Cless]

Damn those water look impressive!

Someone needs to upload those HD movies.

Direct link to the movies (.flv)
Video 1 (http://ps3movies.ign.com/ps3/video/article/780/780190/lair_01_041207_flvhighwide.flv)
Video 2 (http://ps3movies.ign.com/ps3/video/article/780/780190/lair_02_041207_flvhighwide.flv)
Video 3 (http://ps3movies.ign.com/ps3/video/article/780/780190/lair_03_041207_flvhighwide.flv)

[NeoPlayStation]

The pics are terrible, they seem so fucking upscaled. But the videos are just gorgeous !!!! O__O

Are this screens upscaladed to 1080p from the 720p HD video?

[Segitz]

Holy effing shit...

You can see this guys freakin pores in his skin!! This is marvelous!!

I WANT THIS GAME NOW (also after seeing Dragonheart today^^)

[GTAce]

I have that feeling that those shots where you cann see those guys arent in-game. I think theyre from render cutscenes BUT the people on the in-game shots looking FREAKIN' amazing so i dont complain.^^

[NeoPlayStation]

WOW! Night battle video is great!

[Shogun042]

i want mega upload :'(

[Insane Metal]

Please somebody upload the hd videos to easyshare/rapidshare/shitshare... I need to see´em :D

[Insane Metal]

i want mega upload :'(

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooooooooooo ! I can´t download anything from there... http://www.easy-share.com/ is the way to go :queer:

[xone_4]

The T-rex is the grandfather of the chickens
long live LAIR

[Pumpkin Head]

The water omg is the best water period.

[OmniCloud]

Looks like Insomniac isn't the only dev trying to show off the PS3:shocked: Impressive vids-especially the night battle. I was worried the game might get repetitive, but it looks like Factor 5 has successfully carried over the magic from there Star Wars game:smile:

Glad it's coming sooner than Fall.

Another little batch of games for me until the big month comes...Calling All Cars, Ninja Gaiden Sigma, PS store updates+multi-platform games and Lair should be a nice hold over until September.

[sikkinixx]

The HD video looks pretty cool, a lot better than the screenshots. I'm not so impressed with the people on the ground and the footage is a little dark but hey...looks pretty damn sweet.

[Insane Metal]

HD vids ? Please ? :cry2:

[TEEDA]

Oh ! dammit! the sea level is amazing, the water simulation is really nice !

[dnpmakkah]

The images look like top-notch. The videos look even better. If there is anything better than top-notch. Did you guys see the water. It looked so heavy and lifelike the way it moved and the sun glistend off its waves...OMG.

Please guys don't ruin this thread by being negative...if you dislike it give a good reason for it but don't be an ass and just butcher it for the sake of derailment. Incase anyone was about to do so.

[luca29]

please please someone share hd videos :(

[LaLiLuLeLo]

awesome, can't wait.

[Applefiend]

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=JN0BJPDD

HD Video 1

[Jay Gee]

It looks great for an alpha build. I'm sure the extra polish for the final product will floor us.

[OmniCloud]

Yeah....best look water ever....Reserving uh...NOW!

HOLY MOLY-look at how many people decided to join thread eh?

[Shogun042]

Applefiend = God +rep

EDIT: and DAMN there's a lot of people in this thread

[luca29]

thanks thanks thanks applefiend :D

[Ben-N1ce]

Other than than the water..very unimpressive.

[Applefiend]

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=94EI5TU0

HD Video 2

[luca29]

please someone can share hd video with water i want to put in my ps3 :D

[Cless]

Awesome Applefiend, thanks!

So are these realtime rendered cutscenes?
http://img110.imageshack.us/img110/6955/lair20070412015713861kf0.jpg
http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/6776/lair20070412015719392nx1.jpg

[Insane Metal]

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=JN0BJPDD

HD Video 1

Please.. I can only d/l one vid a day from MU... can u upload the other one to www.easy-share.com or www.rapidshare.de ?

+rep :banana:

[raVen]

man I can see it now that black man is gonna die.

[Pumpkin Head]

Lair is one of the first games that will officially make use of trophies for PlayStation Home. Details behind what you will earn them for are scarce, but they will be included even if Home isn't scheduled to launch until after Lair is released. YESSSSSSSSSSS can't wait for home.

[Applefiend]

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=VA7NU6H0

HD Video 3

Can somebody with bandwidth bounce these onto easyshare. My quota is up.

[OmniCloud]

YESSSSSSSSSSS can't wait for home.Why are you excited by this man:huh: I mean, seriously, I keep seeing achievement this and that and I'm just like WTF??!?! Who gives a damn about some bogus points for playing a game for 100 hours?

Not taking any shots at you Pumpkin, but I think this award system is nothing more than a ploy for PS3 owners to be able to say Live doesn't have anything Home doesn't, I just can't get how Achievements make a game "better". Resistance Skill points were cool and all, but did I really give a dam:uhh:

[xone_4]

+rep Applefiend
thank you man

[luca29]

+ rep applefiend :D

[OmniCloud]

Those look like In-game cutscenes to me...Just going by titles like Metal Gear that have a little more detail when your not in-control. Those look pretty feasible for an exclusive PS3 title.

[Insane Metal]

Please somebody upload the 2nd vid to rapidshareeeeee :)

[GUNDAMSEED]

Looks nice some pics have been fuck over but in looks awesome in motion .

[Shogun042]

so are they at the polishing stage now or?

[Steemo]

IMHO the fire effects need a lot of work. Everything else is fantastic.

[totobeni]

and that we can expect to see Lair on store shelves this July

and that we can expect to see Lair on store shelves this July

and that we can expect to see Lair on store shelves this July

and that we can expect to see Lair on store shelves this July

super + rep for Factor 5

[rob the slob]

Saw these posted at neo gaf.
http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p177/blubbernalgas/lair-20070412015731049-1.jpg

[Sypher]

Soooooooooooo Purdy!!

[Rockmond]

Saw these posted at neo gaf.
http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p177/blubbernalgas/lair-20070412015731049-1.jpg

Typical.

[Sypher]

^^*cries*

[mario25]

I was a little disappointed with the new footage....but after I watched the videos a couple of times more I'm really hyped about the game.......

[Siraris]

The screenshots look awful (except for the humans, which could be cut-scene) but the videos look AMAZING. The water is absolutely beyond comprehension. I saw the shots and was like "Ok, why does this look like a PS2 game?" and saw the videos and said "Wow, this looks like a PS4 game!".

[gibmonster]

sometimes screenshots don't do games justice at all. Videos are awesome though.

[Diresu]

^Reason I like trophies is because well...there is a huge difference between "Achievement Unlocked" popup...and walking into my giant room with displays everywhere of 3d representations of my unlockables.

[Cless]

Originally Posted by rob the slob View Post
Saw these posted at neo gaf.
Typical.

http://img465.imageshack.us/img465/9981/neogaftl7.jp

[Acason79]

It looks great to be only in alpha stage, cmon demo!

[makeitlookreal]

In my opinion the new screen shots look very good, but not spectacular. In addition, the videos look very good, but not spectacular.

However, I think the game will be spectacular and here is why.

This game is gigantic. For example, each level is 32 miles long. I would like for the dragons and everything to be more detailed. But with such a gigantic game I don't know if we can expect much more detail. The PS3 only has so much RAM and I'm sure that they are using every single megabyte.

I think the scale of the game and the gameplay will add to the very good graphics to make a spectacular game.

[Carlos]

Gorgeous graphics!

Factor 5 should take all the time they need to perfect the game. Even if it means delaying the game.

[Shogun042]

some places look really good, some are ok. that's what alpha is all about i guess. now for all the nice polishing, smooth out some edges and you've got a damn fine game.

[Sypher]

I just hope they turned down the Sixaxis sensitivity a couple notches. Last time I played this, it looked like everyone was having seizures.

[rog27]

My favorite vid is the third one when it is raining/lightening and they are talking to each other...the one with the giant rotating fortress. I got a really awesome original warhawk vibe from it.

*And in case no one else noticed, your dragon apparently has what looks to be like light coming out of his eyes. It's pretty apparent in the 3rd vid when your character is approaching and attacking the rotating fortress. I believe this to be an indicator of where your dragon is looking...his field of vision persay. You must have to be aware of it, which makes me think that the dragon has his own ai and is more like a character you are working with rather than just a controllable automaton. This would add a pretty cool gameplay element if indeed that's what that light beaming from your dragon's eyes is for.

[Fredag]

Video 1:
http://w13.easy-share.com/991448.html

Video 2:
http://w13.easy-share.com/991744.html

[bigwig]

2 and 3 vid look really great...game has improved...but the vids need to be longer...they need to show off the scale better!

[VG Aficionado]

I could only watch one of the videos in low quality right now, but I can't stress enough that screenshots do no justice to this game at all. Can't wait to get home and watch the HD versions!!!

[Fredag]

Oh, and video 3:
http://w13.easy-share.com/991965.html

[LiquidEagle]

That 3rd video is incredible, and the screenshots, while good looking, definitely do not do this game justice, nor does that IGN preview (they were so negative!) :laugh:

[Cyrus]

I think the game looks amazing even from the low-quality IGN videos.

[Segitz]

Man, my line is crapping out (only 3mbits :( )... I wanna see them NOW!

[Z]

what is really amazing is how the game looks (and in 1080p no less) while having such a massive scale! Factor 5 has some amazing talents and Cell is a monster!

these coming months will be a PS3 fest orgy!

[Kabbage]

beyond3d hates the look :)