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snapfan
09-13-2006, 04:50 AM
I am on the fence about getting a PS3 or a Wii. Money is no issue. After looking at all of the polls about PS3 vs. Wii vs. 360, almost all of them had the Wii just dominate.

The Wii just looks like an all-around system, I don't care about graphics (PS2 had the worst graphics, but it still did the best). I want something new, I don't want boring, old, regular games, I want fun ones!

The PS3 is just sort of-blah to me. What is so great about it? Blue-Ray?Pshh.

I really don't see what seperates it from being different, it is just same-old conventional video games that focus on World War I and II.

I said I don't care about money, but I could get a Wii, plus 6 games!

I really want to find a reason to get a PS3, but why?

Plus Wii games look much more fun.

Nameless
09-13-2006, 04:56 AM
Sounds like your mind is already made up...
Personally I like numerous franchises on the PS2 and most of them will carry over to the PS3. The hardware is not that important it's about the games.

PS: I don't see all the hype for the Wii unless you are a huge fan of Nintendo franchises, because the Wii controller seems like a gimmick that would get old over time for hardcore gamers, IMO.

PUNK em 733
09-13-2006, 04:57 AM
Well then get the wii by all means. You've stated all the reasons you need. But you will be kicking yourself prolly after several months.


And WELCOME.

venomv
09-13-2006, 04:59 AM
Why? Well, did you like the games for PS2...that would be a good place to start...Do you like FF, MGS, GT, Twisted Metal, GoW, DMC, RE, Jak and Daxter, SOCOM.....Do the games that are being made for the PS3 right now intrest you..Warhawk, LAIR, Resistance, Heavenly Sword......That is just the tip of the iceburg, one thing that has always been synonymus(lol, that doesn't look right) with Playstation is a wide variety of games.

But if money is no obstacle....I would say get both, lol.

Welcome to the forums, in any case!

IEatFriedPikmin
09-13-2006, 05:04 AM
get a freakin Wii. Its pretty much garaunteed to have good games at launch and is getting tons of support.

I would wait on the PS3 just to see how well it does. I know money isnt an issue, but i regretted buying a 360 asap... its gotten better, and will get better in the future, but after i beat kameo, i didnt play anything on it till burnout revenge.

with the Wii, you really have nothing to lose.

venomv
09-13-2006, 05:07 AM
with the Wii, you really have nothing to lose.

Ummm......unless you don't like the games, call them good games if you want, but I don't wanna play anything they have at launch....Show me some games that aren;t just trying to see how much they can do with they Wii-mote and then I may change my mind, But after I saw Mario Galaxy at E3 I no longer wanna play it...

Shadow Voa
09-13-2006, 05:07 AM
Get a Wii and PS3 like me (love the rhymes), I couldnt make up my mind to own just one so I decided its all or nothing (no 360, youre still nothing).

jaxmkii
09-13-2006, 05:08 AM
I am on the fence about getting a PS3 or a Wii. Money is no issue. After looking at all of the polls about PS3 vs. Wii vs. 360, almost all of them had the Wii just dominate.

The Wii just looks like an all-around system, I don't care about graphics (PS2 had the worst graphics, but it still did the best). I want something new, I don't want boring, old, regular games, I want fun ones!

The PS3 is just sort of-blah to me. What is so great about it? Blue-Ray?Pshh.

I really don't see what seperates it from being different, it is just same-old conventional video games that focus on World War I and II.

I said I don't care about money, but I could get a Wii, plus 6 games!

I really want to find a reason to get a PS3, but why?

Plus Wii games look much more fun.

1. gee lets think about this 7 gigs vs 50 gigs...

2. we had WWI games?!?

3. if money is no object to you than why could you not get ps3 + 20 games?

:shifty: i smell trolling

Nameless
09-13-2006, 05:12 AM
Jax, I agree if money is no object and you are a gamer how could you pass up the most powerful console on the planet... I'm fortunate enough to be in the same boat money is not an issue regarding the consoles and I already own a 360, and I plan to have a PS3 on launch day, but I have no interest in the Wii... I may give Zelda a try, but I will get the Gamecube version.

Perhaps I'm jaded by the Gamecube, because only one good game was released a year... Peace

snapfan
09-13-2006, 05:13 AM
Ya, I love games that I can play with my friends. ie; SSB, Mario Party & Tennis

I guess I do love Nintendo
games


I dont know why I would kick myself when I buy a Wii

jaxmkii
09-13-2006, 05:15 AM
he's whole post is in contradiction.

sounds like he just wants to say PS3 sux Wii rules. but wants to do it in a fashion that makes him sound objective.

Carlos
09-13-2006, 05:17 AM
we had WWI games?!?
Yes, we did. Countless of them in the form of WWII, some are WWI games.

I'd buy PS3, but its expensive. I have PS2 games, so the lack of games are made by backward compatibility.

xbdestroya
09-13-2006, 05:19 AM
I think the thread topic is very valid - afterall it strikes at the core of why we're all here.

For me, money is not a barrier for the purchase of any of these consoles. But do/will I own them all? It's time that is the main factor, time and the opportunity cost for what the money could otherwise be spent on.

Snapfan isn't asking that we justify the price of the PS3, he's asking that we justify the investment in time vs another console (in this case the Wii) in terms of entertainment value.

Frankly, I think that Snapfan for you the choice is obvious: get the Wii.

But the question in general is of course something we should all be able to answer for ourselves on a personal level. For me, assumed strong JRPG support, strong action game library, and Blu-ray playback are my primary motivators.

PUNK em 733
09-13-2006, 05:19 AM
he's whole post is in contradiction.

sounds like he just wants to say PS3 sux Wii rules. but wants to do it in a fashion that makes him sound objective.


:clap: :thumpsup:

So true, but he is new (hey that ryhmes), but I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt for now.

jaxmkii
09-13-2006, 05:21 AM
^^^ i judge first ask quetions later

snapfan
09-13-2006, 05:31 AM
Im sorry if I sound anti-PS3, but I have read much on the Wii but not so much on PS3

I wanted to give PS3 another chance, but after writing it down, it looks like Wii is for me.

PUNK em 733
09-13-2006, 05:33 AM
Im sorry if I sound anti-PS3, but I have read much on the Wii but not so much on PS3

I wanted to give PS3 another chance, but after writing it down, it looks like Wii is for me.



AWESOME!! Enjoy.:cycspin:

xbdestroya
09-13-2006, 05:36 AM
Anyway, your certainly welcome to hang around the forum Snapfan.

It seems that you didn't really need this thread though to answer your questions. :smoke:

Shadow Voa
09-13-2006, 05:37 AM
Im sorry if I sound anti-PS3, but I have read much on the Wii but not so much on PS3

I wanted to give PS3 another chance, but after writing it down, it looks like Wii is for me.

Good to hear Snapfan, whether you decided on Wii or PS3, you were in for a treat as both systems have amazing games to be played. :cloud9:

IEatFriedPikmin
09-13-2006, 05:40 AM
Ummm......unless you don't like the games, call them good games if you want, but I don't wanna play anything they have at launch....Show me some games that aren;t just trying to see how much they can do with they Wii-mote and then I may change my mind, But after I saw Mario Galaxy at E3 I no longer wanna play it...
what? Why would you not want a game like that. Sure there will be some gimmicky games, but the purpose of the remote is to add innovation to games. I hope a lot of games use it extensively. Thats like saying "Show me games that aren't just trying to see how good they can make the graphics on the PS3." And i heard a lot of good comments on mario galaxies.
I plan on getting Zelda, Metroid Prime 3, Wario Ware, and Red Steel at launch.

Nameless
09-13-2006, 05:44 AM
Some good could still come from this thread...
Perhaps we can all list our top reasons for purchasing a PS3...

#1 - MGS4!
#2 (GOW2, GT5, FFXIII, DMC4, Heavenly Sword, Resistance, etc...)
#3 Blu-ray movie playback
#4 1080P support
#5 Backward Compatibility
#6 Cutting edge technology (I'm a gadget freak...)
#7 Next PS platform

snapfan
09-13-2006, 05:47 AM
PS3 SUCKS







just kidding
(dont you just love the consel wars?)

OmniCloud
09-13-2006, 05:55 AM
^I'll probably be getting a Wii on launch just cuz it won't hurt my pockets as much and it launches w/Zelda!! But as for ur position-yea I guess u should get a Wii if the games on the system seem most to ur liking.

However, many users particularly in this forum plan on getting a PS3 on day 1 or as soon as possible. PS3 is where the most of my time gaming will be spent. I think the Wii trade/off for graphics is great-but I also am attracted to PS3 mainly for the same reasons XB said. I'm a die-hard RPG gamer and love a good story/driven action game (MGS any1?) So..if ur truly a GAMER...then I don't see how u can just have Wii and nothing else-unless ur a PC gamer. But that's my 2 cents anyway...

Viper
09-13-2006, 06:02 AM
Welcome to the community, though it sounds as though your mind is on set path already. The PS3 has it's validation being exclusive games. To me, nothing else on it is as compelling. It's a launcdry list of titles that just can't be ignored.

Nameless, they said the DS was a gimmick too. Ubisoft obviously doesn't think it's a gimmick with 8 launch titles. FarCry isn't exactly a kiddie, minimalist title either so the hardcore are getting covered well and with much support. Far more so than N has had in 10 years.

Check out Madden 07 on Wii. Hardcore gameplay vs not so hardcore graphics.
http://wii.ign.com/articles/732/732391p1.html

edoshin
09-13-2006, 06:33 AM
I've never missed a generation of Nintendo consoles .. but I have a feeling that I will pass on Wii, esp since my daughter is getting older. I really bought GC for Mario Sunshine, but hated it. I played Zelda for the first time and it was my favorite game. If i get Wii at all, it will be for that one series alone. PS2 has been such an amazing console. The Jak, Ratchet and Sly series, Eyetoy, Guitar Hero, Karaoke, DDR .. a mix of the quirky such as Katamari, and then some real dash like God of War. I'm only now working at games like DMC and Silent Hill. I want PS3 simply for BR movies, but I think that I will be buying PS2 games for a long time. If Sony simply releases the next iteration of the games above, it would be enough to power it thru the next gen. But the majority of those games were brand new franchises this gen. Nintendo simply has proven nothing last gen, and they actually have something to show for next gen, I simply don't think much of next gen Nintendo. I hate to dump on Nintendo because I've always pulled for them .. but they've become really boring.

Viper
09-13-2006, 06:37 AM
but they've become really boring.
Now you know why they completely changed directions with Wii.

PUNK em 733
09-13-2006, 06:40 AM
Some good could still come from this thread...
Perhaps we can all list our top reasons for purchasing a PS3...

#1 - MGS4!
#2 (GOW2, GT5, FFXIII, DMC4, Heavenly Sword, Resistance, etc...)
#3 Blu-ray movie playback
#4 1080P support
#5 Backward Compatibility
#6 Cutting edge technology (I'm a gadget freak...)
#7 Next PS platform


That just about covers it for me...one little thing, I'm sure God Of War 3 will be PS3 bound in a couple of yrs or so...can you imagine that?!?:hitit:

CreativeWriter
09-13-2006, 07:07 AM
If I had friends coming over every day to play games I'd buy a Wii. I'm sure the Wii will be the platform for traditional multiplayer fun. Being married and a teacher, my free time is usually between midnight and 4 am, so I end up playing JRPGs mostly, hence the PS3 is my choice.

I'm also not convinced that in 3 years the Wii will have the developer support it enjoys now. The Gamecube has been hugely disappointing from a 3rd party perspective. Mine has just been sitting there, waiting for Zelda for over a year now. But if for some reason the Wii takes off and they're using the Wiimote to make innovative games (RTS anyone?), then I might pick one up, and at sub 200 bucks it might be an impulse buy at that point. Until then, I feel like the Wii is being marketed to a different audience than the PS3. The Wii, like the GC before it, looks like a toy for teens. The PS3 seems targeted squarely at my age group and at the hardcore gamer (me). That's how I feel about it at the moment. It could all change if either system tanks after launch.

aclar00
09-13-2006, 08:06 AM
I would wait on the PS3 just to see how well it does.

It always bothers me when people say this... its like a self fulfilling prophecy... by not getting the system you are contributing to its downfall. Rephrase it and say something along the lines of "I'm going to wait once the library of games become higher" If 200,000 other people say the same thing... then chances are it wont do well

edoshin
09-13-2006, 08:13 AM
I thought the touchpad was gimmicky for DS, but I sure wish PSP had touchpad now. So I'll reserve my judgement on Wii-mote for now. i've just been very disappointed with the GC library .. in fact (a continuation of the N64 disappointment personally).

Frankly, PS3 will probably have a lot more to offer in the family oriented or group gathering games. The caveat being that many of the "party" games I enjoy is not necessarily exclusive. A game like Guitar Hero is SO insanely fun .. and my little daughter is now versed on the classic rock. I'm highly interested in where they evolve Eyetoy with the next interation of games like Anti-Grav .. and that card game looks to be a Pokemonlike hook. I'm also curious about a game like Singstar. I don't know .. theres just so much that I am looking forward to on PS3 its ridicuous. I've never really gotten into FPSs, but Resistance looks amazing. Heavenly Sword + God of War and possibly Ninja Gaiden. Gran Turismo. Anything Naughty Dog does. Anything NOT Mario related. Next Gen truly does begin with Sony.

venomv
09-13-2006, 01:58 PM
what? Why would you not want a game like that. Sure there will be some gimmicky games, but the purpose of the remote is to add innovation to games. I hope a lot of games use it extensively. Thats like saying "Show me games that aren't just trying to see how good they can make the graphics on the PS3." And i heard a lot of good comments on mario galaxies.
I plan on getting Zelda, Metroid Prime 3, Wario Ware, and Red Steel at launch.

That isn't what I mean, their are real uses for the control, and some games (such as Red Steel, and that Electrobytes or whatever) have legitament used for the Wii-mote, but other times it seems forced (like Mario Galaxy) and that bothers me, it is why I will never get a DS (that...and I am not a portable gamer). Just the games don't do it for me....I'm an RPG guy...and there are no real uses for the Wii-mote in a JRPG...

stanDarsh
09-13-2006, 02:03 PM
Why PS3? Because I like what the platform has to offer game wise. I like gaming in general, Wii has certainly got me excited too, so I'll be picking one of them up before years end! (unless they delay that here as well!)

yoshaw
09-13-2006, 02:57 PM
what? Why would you not want a game like that. Sure there will be some gimmicky games, but the purpose of the remote is to add innovation to games. I hope a lot of games use it extensively. Thats like saying "Show me games that aren't just trying to see how good they can make the graphics on the PS3." And i heard a lot of good comments on mario galaxies.
I plan on getting Zelda, Metroid Prime 3, Wario Ware, and Red Steel at launch.

I'd have to stop you there, please. Games have never been as disruptive as on the level Wii is going to introduce this November. A good thing, no doubt. But there ought to be some room to think about its usefullness to a gamer who's been playing with a joystick and 8 buttons for the last ten years and more.

You can't expect them to just start loving a new thing just because it says its unique. Wii, no matter how disruptive still needs time to prove itself to the hardcore gamer that is not a nintendon already. I truly appreciate the market Nintendo is going after, which is the family. But at the same time I also respect the brand that took gaming out of norm and into mainstream adult entertainment medium.

Thing is, out of both respectable brands, the tried and true formula is only being persued by one of them. Having played games with a joystick ever since I can recall my childhood days, I think the choice is obvious for me. Doesn't rule out why I wouldn't be interested in disruptive controls but as I said, it has to convince me more than just Apple/MTV like videos depicting at home gameplay. I'd much rather wait for it to prove itself like DS than to jump on it day 1.

So please, the point of the post was, don't expect everyone to be anticipating games that are rehashed from current-gen to be fit onto disruptive tech(Zelda, Metroid etc). There is plenty of time to see what the true potential of the platform is when real games with true potential of Wii surface in the 2nd generation. Until then, I think an average gamer who's been playing with a two handed joystick is fine if keeps his distance. There shouldn't be a why involved when he decides to hold onto the traditional norms of gaming.

Voidler
09-13-2006, 03:13 PM
Depends on your definition of fun. Wii is (for the most part) going to offer cheap thrills, and quick doses of fun. Want to just jump into a game for abit and not be constrained by difficulty, length, story bases etc. then get Wii. It's like the sort of console built for casual gamers. For me, this'll get old quick - and I'll mostly stick to the deeper games like Zelda TP (though I'm pretty sure the controls will tarnish the immersion in those games for me abit).

If you're looking for the sort of fun you get in console games this gen like MGS, DMC, Halo etc. but taken to the next level then PS3 is your consoles. It's games will be deeper, more inclusive and more immersive (for the most part).

IEatFriedPikmin
09-13-2006, 03:42 PM
Thing is, out of both respectable brands, the tried and true formula is only being persued by one of them. Having played games with a joystick ever since I can recall my childhood days, I think the choice is obvious for me. Doesn't rule out why I wouldn't be interested in disruptive controls but as I said, it has to convince me more than just Apple/MTV like videos depicting at home gameplay. I'd much rather wait for it to prove itself like DS than to jump on it day 1.
hasnt it already proved itself with the numerous praises from the media and developers.

yoshaw
09-13-2006, 03:55 PM
hasnt it already proved itself with the numerous praises from the media and developers.

Now you're acting childish, no offense! But praises can only take anything so far. The no.1 brand in gaming today hasn't reached the point where its at by praises and media hype alone. It took some solid working franchises that led it to this point. And I don't think it's asking for too much for Wii to do the same.

Also, there is no proven technology unless its atleast on the market. This goes for anything including the PS3. As for Wii, I'm afraid, media hype and love of Nintendo is not going to be enough of a proof. And like I said, there is plenty of time for Wii to prove itself much like DS. I'm sure it'll come off as a worthy piece of hardware in time.

masteratt
09-13-2006, 03:56 PM
Why I want a PS3:
1) Games (shouldn't need to list them by now)
2) I know something great will become of Cell in a year or two that will make games 10times more fun
3) Extra web-browser in the house
4) Extra HDD space (just the other day my sis was begging for a HDD beacuse her PC was full...I proposed she get herself a PS3, at first I was happy she was going to get one but then I told her the price :()
5) Downloadable PS1 games (a wonderful feature for those dull summers of gaming where hardly any games come out)

I could have just said Games and felt good about purhcasing the PS3 and those other four points are just the icing on the cake. No matter what anyone says about Sony, I truly believe they are a company that pushes the "It's all about the games" idea the most. Nintendo just tries to expand it. Kudos to them but the Wii fails to impress me yet.

I will wait for a price drop though (i think it's well worth the price but i am still edgy about false hardware, also i am patient enough to wait and pay less).

mario25
09-13-2006, 04:03 PM
I don't have too much faith on the wii (I'm eventually buying one though)......I'm glad nintendo is the only one trying something different but you can only do su much with that controller and the will have to last at least five years with outdated graphics and processing power......we'll se what happens, but right now not even one game besides twilight princess has me interested in the console

Applefiend
09-13-2006, 04:20 PM
Easy just pick the one with the exclusive games you like.

Picking a console on opinion polls or PR Spin is nonsense. Which one has the games you most like?

Wii: Mario, Zelda, Pikmin, Smash Bros, Metroid, Red Steel, Warioware.
360: Fable, Halo, Gears, Mass Effect, Dead Rising, Oblivion, DOA4.
PS3: Gran Turismo, Metal Gear Solid 4, Virtua Fighter, Resistance, Final Fantasy, Devil May Cry, Motorstorm.

And be aware if you pick only Wii, no GTA4, Resident Evil 5, Half Life 2 and other big games for you, it 's not powerful enough to handle it.

Easy choice. If you can't decide, pick more than one.

Obviously a lot of people will fill your head with crap about each system, but it comes down to the choices in games.

Each system has a distinct character, pick the one that fits your tastes the most. There isn't one that's better, but there's one just for you.

venomv
09-13-2006, 04:27 PM
hasnt it already proved itself with the numerous praises from the media and developers.

It hasn't proven anything 'till I have played it, or personally seen it played...

I understand what Nintendo is doing, and have no problem with it. But I'm not gonna jump on board with everyone who thinks the control is the second comming....

Killing Moon
09-13-2006, 05:21 PM
Man let’s just cut the bullshit and stop being so diplomatic to this kid, okay.

This guy isn’t here to really ask a question. It’s just trolling, as someone mentioned before. How can you honestly say that you are more interested in the Wii than the PS3, then come back in your third post and say that you’ve not done any research on the PS3 as well.

Gee, I smell BS, don’t you?!

He’s obviously NOT going to buy a PS3 at launch. If money wasn’t an object, this wouldn’t even be a question (also, do you have a 360, if money is no object? If not, then this also proves that you’re full of shit). Unless you’ve been living under a rock for the last 10 years, you should already know why you need to buy the console and or why you should hate it just as well.

Threads like this are meant for Gamespot, 1UP or something. I come here because this is an actually educated forum for gamers who just so happen to like the PlayStation. Not for juvenile rhetoric like this.

Please, oh dear Lord, somebody close this worthless thread.

VG Aficionado
09-13-2006, 05:23 PM
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Viper
09-13-2006, 05:53 PM
Sorry sir, bullshit hours are over. We're closed.

xbdestroya
09-13-2006, 07:00 PM
Man let’s just cut the bullshit and stop being so diplomatic to this kid, okay.

This guy isn’t here to really ask a question. It’s just trolling, as someone mentioned before. How can you honestly say that you are more interested in the Wii than the PS3, then come back in your third post and say that you’ve not done any research on the PS3 as well.

Gee, I smell BS, don’t you?!

He’s obviously NOT going to buy a PS3 at launch. If money wasn’t an object, this wouldn’t even be a question (also, do you have a 360, if money is no object? If not, then this also proves that you’re full of shit). Unless you’ve been living under a rock for the last 10 years, you should already know why you need to buy the console and or why you should hate it just as well.

Threads like this are meant for Gamespot, 1UP or something. I come here because this is an actually educated forum for gamers who just so happen to like the PlayStation. Not for juvenile rhetoric like this.

Please, oh dear Lord, somebody close this worthless thread.

Killing Moon get yourself under control. ;)

Read my post in #13 to get my angle on it; afterall what does money have to do with anything here? Just like a billionaire might prefer Ferrari to Lamborghini - rather than owning both - so too do I think it's still valid to discuss which console is more worth an individuals time... and why.

Also, even if the original poster's intent was to troll (and if so it was certainly in a very mild manner, leading me to think he wasn't), we bring ourselves down by always pouncing on posters when we suspect them of an agenda, rather than just addressing the issues raised in a factual and reasoned way.