Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots

[venomv]

Did you read it all today, didn't think so.

lol, it is pretty massive.

[Epix]

I don't even know how to rep. :(

nm. I figured it out. I gave Infernal some rep love.

[Z]

a little while after MGS4 is released, I'll print all the posts here and publish it as a book in the MGS world. after words, I'll just make parts and sell them. I'll make millions I tell ya!

[VG Aficionado]

Show Maybe MGS 60+ page pamphlet at Kojima Productions site :hugegrin: (http://www.konami.jp/kojima_pro/showmaybe/)

A four-legged Metal Gear in MGS: PO? :!: (http://www.konami.jp/kojima_pro/showmaybe/big.php?no=7&side=0)

[LiquidEagle]

Nice find VG :). I'd rep you, but I already have my own personal copy of the Show Maybe :-p :-D

j/k, I'll rep ya :laugh:

Lately I've been thinking about the possibility of Otacon dying in MGS4. He's definitely tired of fighting as he said "let this be our last battle" to Snake (while he was crying or finishing up crying), and in MGS2 he lamented over how he's "always the survivor." He lost Wolf in MGS1 and EE in MGS2, and while I still think he's a very capable and cool character, he's also kind of a wretch now. What do you guys think are the chances that Otacon will die in MGS4?

Still working on that quiz question Sephiroth... :laugh:

[Sephiroth_VII]

Maybe it shouldn't have been so hard... Remember to rep me toohttp://forums.e-mpire.com/images/smilies/tounge.gif

[yoshaw]

I thought maybe you guys would want to have it on your HDD's too. Thanks for the +reps ;)


Front Cover / Back Cover
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Senso wa Kawattah - War has Changed
http://xs102.xs.to/xs102/06245/War_has_changed_01.jpg.xs.jpg (http://xs.to/xs.php?h=xs102&d=06245&f=War_has_changed_01.jpg) http://xs202.xs.to/xs202/06245/War_has_changed_02.jpg.xs.jpg (http://xs.to/xs.php?h=xs202&d=06245&f=War_has_changed_02.jpg)

Sum of All Gears
http://xs202.xs.to/xs202/06245/War_has_changed_03.jpg.xs.jpg (http://xs.to/xs.php?h=xs202&d=06245&f=War_has_changed_03.jpg)

15 Minutes of Game
http://xs102.xs.to/xs102/06245/War_has_changed_05.jpg.xs.jpg (http://xs.to/xs.php?h=xs102&d=06245&f=War_has_changed_05.jpg)

Snake Tales
http://xs102.xs.to/xs102/06245/War_has_changed_06.jpg.xs.jpg (http://xs.to/xs.php?h=xs102&d=06245&f=War_has_changed_06.jpg)

Kojima Productions - THEN and NOW
http://xs202.xs.to/xs202/06245/Kojima_productions.jpg.xs.jpg (http://xs.to/xs.php?h=xs202&d=06245&f=Kojima_productions.jpg)

MGS Movie - Celluloid Heroes
http://xs102.xs.to/xs102/06245/MGS_Movie.jpg.xs.jpg (http://xs.to/xs.php?h=xs102&d=06245&f=MGS_Movie.jpg)

Thanks for the MemE3s!
http://xs102.xs.to/xs102/06245/Reminiscense.jpg.xs.jpg (http://xs.to/xs.php?h=xs102&d=06245&f=Reminiscense.jpg)

ZOMG!!! Mamoru Oshii and Kojima together!! :flamed: *Yoshaw dies a happy man!*
http://xs202.xs.to/xs202/06245/Hideo_Idol_Chat.jpg.xs.jpg (http://xs.to/xs.php?h=xs202&d=06245&f=Hideo_Idol_Chat.jpg)

[Illmatic]

Cheers for that Yoshaw, i'd plus rep you if i could, but it seems i have to spread some of the lovin XD


Finally seen some HD footage of the 15 min trailer, that thing is teh seks!!

Some screen grabs:

http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/2623/mgshd39rs.jpg
http://img154.imageshack.us/img154/7716/mgshd130lz.jpg
http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/808/mgshd77cc.jpg
http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/9416/mgshd171vu.jpg
http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/6479/mgshd216mi.jpg
http://img160.imageshack.us/img160/5882/mgshd253np.jpg
http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/5899/mgshd300dv.jpg

http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/2434/mgshd92wc.th.jpg (http://img205.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mgshd92wc.jpg)http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/3628/mgshd1015mw.th.jpg (http://img156.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mgshd1015mw.jpg)http://img239.imageshack.us/img239/2936/mgshd154bh.th.jpg (http://img239.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mgshd154bh.jpg)
http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/6785/mgshd224ks.th.jpg (http://img156.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mgshd224ks.jpg)http://img160.imageshack.us/img160/9674/mgshd261xh.th.jpg (http://img160.imageshack.us/my.php?image=mgshd261xh.jpg)

[VG Aficionado]

Finally!!! :hugegrin: Vejita, upload that video if you can (you''ll probably have to divide it in several parts though), and get ready for massive +repping!

[Nameless]

Vejita, If you have the HD trailer you made my day man!!! :)

[Illmatic]

I'll give it a go, but it's going to take some time, it's about 700MB, and my upload rate is 128kb :whip:

[Sephiroth_VII]

Where did you get it, anyway? Couldn't you just give a link to where you got it?
Anyway, I just LOVE this image:
http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/6479/mgshd216mi.jpg
Never noticed it in the trailer, but it's just lol!

[Illmatic]

Where did you get it, anyway? Couldn't you just give a link to where you got it?


I got it from Gamespot (http://www.gamespot.com/ps3/adventure/metalgearsolid4/media.html), and unless you have an account you can't get access to it.

[Voidler]

Got the HD trailer aswell. No clue how to take screencaps though

[Illmatic]

16% complete, 7 1/2 hours to go...

XD

[Insane Metal]

Linky for the torrent: http://www.titaniumtorrents.com/viewtopic.php?t=187

695MB :hugegrin:

[yoshaw]

Edit: Insane Metal teh awesome, now I don't have to go through all of this below ;) lol

Vejita, is it okay if I put up a torrent link for the 700mb HD file later tonight? I'm off to spend some time with family. See ya guys later with the link. Hopefully, the download doesn't get punked midway, that'd be sooo whack!

[Nameless]

Insane, I can't + Rep you, but I will ASAP you are the man!

[Coded-Dude]

torrents pffffffft...I want a direct link, but good find anyways.(+ rep)

[Grovestreet]

Holy shiz, I want a direct link though :(
+Rep anyways :)

[Insane Metal]

Insane, I can't + Rep you, but I will ASAP you are the man!

Thank you ! :pepper:


Thanks for all the reps guys.

[Grovestreet]

Hmm...How the hell do you get to watch that MGS4 Vid? What do you need to download it?

[Coded-Dude]

a torrent program

[Nameless]

Grove, you need to dowload bit torrent to download the file...
Just do a google search and you will find a site to download the files needed.

[Sephiroth_VII]

Hey, I got Gamespot Complete for E3! YAY!!!!

[GTShotoKen]

Sorry for the confusion.

Nevermind this post.

[Grovestreet]

Great...Post the direct link up then :p
Edit: I hope thats it.

[VG Aficionado]

Take a look at the file name:

mgs4-052606-wmvhd.zip

I'm afraid that's an older, upscaled version. Nothing to do with the one posted today.

[GTShotoKen]

Take a look at the file name:

mgs4-052606-wmvhd.zip

I'm afraid that's an older, upscaled version.

Oops, sorry about that.

[Grovestreet]

Damn...Could someone PLEASE post up a direct link :(

[Coded-Dude]

i can't seem to find the link on that page(they are usually pretty good at hiding them)

[Smokey]

im a complete member on gamespot & i cant find a 700meg 720p download??

[Handycrap101]

I don't even think the trailer is truly HD... it seems to be similiar to the IGN 480p version which was just upscaled.

[Smokey]

I don't even think the trailer is truly HD... it seems to be similiar to the IGN 480p version which was just upscaled.
:( weally

[Handycrap101]

This is what I've heard from people... Although I can't 100% assure you that cause I haven't viewed it yet. I'm sure people will post their impressions soon though.

I'm curious though... I wonder whats the record for most views of that trailer. Some people can't get enought of it *raises hand*. This HD version will prolly cancel any of this evenings plans... :(.

[Nameless]

Oops, sorry about that.
Dammit! :swear:
Who has a link for the native 720P trailer please post the link or the torrent!

PS: Insane's link may be legit I will download and review, this is going to take awhile...

[masteratt]

Yeah, my first thought was it would be an upscaled version but who cares, I'm downloading anyway.

And can we REALLY see the difference between native and upscaled 720p HD?
I'l answer that soon.....Scratch that...Probably in a day, this is going 6KB/sec...zzzzzz

[Smokey]

masteratt at that speed it could be a week lol :)

[satriales]

My download is at 96.5% it's slowed down a bit now, but I should have it an a couple of minutes. I can post some comparison shots between it and the original trailer but I don't have the upscaled one.

Edit: it's just finished I will post some comparisons in a minute.

[GTShotoKen]

The thing that confuses me is that Gamespot would make a huge deal of a true 720p MGS4 trailer, but their is nothing on the site even talking about the trailer.

I highly doubt that this is the *real* deal. It's most likely upscaled.

[section]

It definitely isn't upscaled. Breathtakingly beautiful 720P in all its glory. Just as we wanted it :)

The textures, lighting, all looks so wonderful now that I'm speechless.

[satriales]

It's not upscaled... it's High Definition! :)

[Nameless]

The thing that confuses me is that Gamespot would make a huge deal of a true 720p MGS4 trailer, but their is nothing on the site even talking about the trailer.

I highly doubt that this is the *real* deal. It's most likely upscaled.
I do agree it's odd Gamespot is not yelling from the rooftops about this trailer... Also, it's odd the trailer was taken down, perhaps Kojima did not want this version to be distributed... (Considering the game is still in early development he may not want everyone scrutinizing every texture in HD quality, I doubt it, but plausible...):unsure:

[masteratt]

EDIT: (Nvm)

[Nameless]

It's not upscaled... it's High Definition! :)
Great news!, Continue the +rep for Insane...LOL:djparty:

[Handycrap101]

Waiting for comparison shots....eagerly....very eagerly.

[satriales]

Here's a quick comparison between the old trailer (not upscaled) and the new one. I haven't seen the upscaled trailer, but there's no way it could improve the original this much:

original
http://img484.imageshack.us/img484/7373/mgscomp10kw.jpg

high def
http://img484.imageshack.us/img484/1278/mgscomp23ur.jpg

I have resized both images to the same size just to make the comaprison clearer. This shot doesn't do it justice as I used VLC to take the screenshot and it loses detail also resizing it loses detail. Basically it looks incredible!

[Grovestreet]

PMC's have become a dangerous threat to the world...Hmm, Are PMC's those guys who were Killing those terrorists on the newest trailer or whoever they are? If so I thought they were the good guys...How come they are dangerous.

[Nameless]

PMC's have become a dangerous threat to the world...Hmm, Are PMC's those guys who were Killing those terrorists on the newest trailer or whoever they are? If so I thought they were the good guys...How come they are dangerous.
Private Military Corporations have become dangerous, because countries no longer have their own military forces they use mercenaries for hire...

[VG Aficionado]

Another comparison:

http://img110.imageshack.us/img110/8434/teh0ct0cam01ij.jpg
http://img369.imageshack.us/img369/467/theoctocamo5ra.jpg

As you can see, Kikizo's highest quality version actually sucks. And sharpness is not the only faulty department (unsteady framerate and the fact that the picture is cropped - yes, I extracted the very same frame from both videos and there it is). However, Gamespot's sound is not very good.

[Smokey]

is there a linky for gamespot please :)

[GTShotoKen]

Great news!, Continue the +rep for Insane...LOL:djparty:

Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!http://users.pandora.be/eforum/emoticons4u/happy/057.gif

By the way, is it 60fps or 30fps?

[Smokey]

im sucking down the torrent at 50-178 kBs :)

[LiquidEagle]

Should be 30fps from what I've heard but I don't have absolute confirmation on that...

Did anybody else exclaim out loud "OH MY GOD!" When they first saw these high-def pictures? :-D can't wait for this torrent to finish. Now the only thing we need to make this all complete is an .mp3 of the music from the trailer :)

[Smokey]

OH MY GOD doesnt do it justice liquid, but yeah shes gonna be the defining ps3 game i reckon. and hideo says its going to look BETTER ima happy man :)

[Xerxes]

Is the high def version 720p or 1080p?

[Coded-Dude]

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VDec: using Planar YV12 as output csp (no 0)
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Selected video codec: [wmv9dmo] vfm:dmo (Windows Media Video 9 DMO)
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[Nameless]

Is the high def version 720p or 1080p?
720P...(that's the target res for the final game)

[Xerxes]

720P...(that's the target res for the final game)

Wow! I still have 480i. Ill have to upgrade this year to 720 and get my 1080p in August 2007.

[LiquidEagle]

What's sad is that as this torrent's been downloading and I eagerly wait for it to finish, the MGS1 music keeps playing in my head -- dun dun dundundun dududun dun dundundun dududun dun dundundun DUN DUN DUN!

[yoshaw]

The blood spurting out of the small metalgear's legs in the first encounter is now much more red than before thanks to the 720p footage. The trailer from E3 times now looks like as if the same Metalgear was spurting out oil, not blood. LOL

Awesome stuff!!! Someone send MILR the torrent link through email.

PS: Has anyone else noticed? The gamespot HD movies are all heavily interlaced for some reason. I have to use shaders in MPC to deinterlace their HDtrailers in realtime. It 'Royally sucks' to watch interlaced HD movies!

[Smokey]

350meg in 1hr15 im keen to see this :) this is the fastest torrent ive ever used

[Nameless]

I will be patient and wait for another method of downloading...
I currently use Bitlord and it will not download the torrent.
I refuse to use other software because some require you open all your router ports...

[Sephiroth_VII]

Bitlord works fine with me. Can't we all agree to keep seeding for a while? It'll make it easier for the rest of us to download.

EDIT: Gamespot has the trailer back online!!!

[Smokey]

im using utorrent ill leave my computer going when i go to bed :) will it keep uploading though. i dont know ive just downloaded it for this? :)

[yoshaw]

im using utorrent ill leave my computer going when i go to bed :) will it keep uploading though. i dont know ive just downloaded it for this? :)

utorrent is awesome!! I ditched Azureus for it. 'Azureus' was a memory hog, used to take 100mb memory. While 'utorrent' only holds up around 6000KB < LOL

[Nameless]

I used another router I had collecting dust and it solved the problem...

[Nameless]

Thanks for seeding guys the download is moving along rather quickly... ;)

[Smokey]

mine just finnished still uploading at 28.3kBs :)

[VG Aficionado]

IGN has a seemingly even better version: its size is 1 GB (http://media.ps3.ign.com/media/714/714044/vids_1.html) (insiders only)

Pictures here (http://media.ps3.ign.com/media/714/714044/imgs_1.html)

However, my experience tells me IGN videos are very poorly encoded, even those tagged as HD.

[GTShotoKen]

I'm seeding the video now too.

The quality was absolutely amazing and well worth the wait.

I do have to note that the video did have a slight pixelated effect (almost grainy in a sense). This does not however take away from its overall quality, but I still wanted to note that.

It might be because I'm watching it at 1920x1200 on an LCD, but I think the effect is actually deliberate.

[venomv]

I normally try to avoid torrents, I was wondering does who you download from depend on what bittorrent client you use?

[GTShotoKen]

utorrent is awesome!! I ditched Azureus for it. 'Azureus' was a memory hog, used to take 100mb memory. While 'utorrent' only holds up around 6000KB < LOL

Utorrent is the best torrent program in my opinion, but the only downside is that it doesn't accept as many trackers as Azureus.

P.S.- Venomv, the only thing that matters when you torrent is that you have the same tracker that the others are using. If you download from the given link then you won't have a problem not matter what torrent program you use (well...there are special cases, but they are few and far between).

[yoshaw]

Does anyone have the IGN version of the 720p trailer? The gamespot one is freaking interlaced to oblivion. I hate it!!! I wish 1up puts one real soon, there 720p vids USED TO BE AWESOME!!! Anyone remember the DOA4 vid?

Oh wait, Gamevideos.com(1up sister site) sux too.

ANYONE GOT THE IGN 720p MGS4 trailer?

[Coded-Dude]

me.......but I gotta go now(and I don't use torrent - so the file is HUGE)

[yoshaw]

Dude, Put it online man.

Anyways, if this was already posted, sorry about it. Just let it be then. Others enjoy.

'EGM' Hideo Kojima 'MGS4' Interview

EGM: Will the gameplay look as good as the trailer? It's real-time, right ?


Hideo Kojima: Yes, it is real-time, made with nearly final PlayStation 3 tools. My staff put a lot of time into, but you still see a little glitching going on. Hopefully, we should be able to fix all of that. We're only now learning how to best use the PlayStation 3, so we should be able to greatly enhance the visuals of the final product.


EGM: How is Sony's new motion-sensing controller affecting your plans ?

HK:: Well, we only recently found out about the new controller, so we were taken by surprise, and are now brainstorming ideas about how to utilize this brilliant mechanism.

EGM: Snake's not lookin' too good these days. Will his physical health deteriorate during the course of the game ?

HK:Yes, Snake's health becomes a concern and, as he is injured on the battlefield, you'll see things like cuts and burns remaining on his skin. This game takes place in the heat of battle, so we want players to be constantly reminded of the danger of war.

EGM: Are the Gekkou robots that Snake fights actually miniature Metal Gears ?

HK: Hm...the essence of a Metal Gear is different. The Gekkou may use some of the same technology you've seen in past Metal Gears, like bipedal legs and weaponry, however it isn't a weapon with the lethality of a Metal Gear. It's more of a jeep or a tank.


EGM: The Gekkou seems weirdly animalistic, with their graceful leaps and oil arterial sprays. What's going on ?

HK: Well, you might actually see those robots pissing in another scene. [Laughs] We've tried to place a meaning behind the Gekkou, much like we have with the Metal Gear. The head is for sensing, with a powerful eye and central A.I., but the legs are animalistic, muscular. So it actually reveals what we're thinking behind this--it's machine controlling flesh, and symbolically, machines controlling man.

EGM: Then we also have soldiers armed with nanomachines, like Snake.

HK: Yes, and that all returns to the business of war. And it is a business-based war, where one day A and B will be fighting each other, but then the next day, you'll have a new contract and you'll have to switch sides.

EGM: We see innocent people being killed in this trailer...will that be an aspect of the final gameplay ?

HK: Yes, although we haven't quite decided the extent to [which we] involve civilians in the fighting. Some of them might join the fight in order to protect their families! In the past Metal Gear games you were viewing the battlefield from a slight distance, but now you're in it.

EGM: What's the story behind Snake's new Octo-Camouflage ?


HK: When people think of an animal that camouflages itself, everyone thinks of chameleons, but there are many other species that are much better at it ! And the octopus is one of them: When it's on top of a coral reef, it changes both its color and texture in order to blend in better. I had to show this to my staff to educate them about just how cool octopi really are.


EGM: Last year's slogan for MGS4 was "there's nowhere to hide", but now it seems Snake can blend in anywhere...

HK: Hmm, that's true...but it only works as long as you're not moving. In the past we had face paint and clothes changing, and we're going to leave that in the game as well. With that stuff, though, you have to change as the mission progresses, but it isn't seamless. With this Octo-Camo switched on, you're constantly shifting to whatever you're up against. But you have to be careful, because if you have it on when you go hide next to a toilet, you'll look like a toilet. It's really uncool. Originally, we also had it so Snake's face changed as well, but this look so totally uncool that we had to leave it out.

EGM: In this trailer, reviled MGS2 star Raiden shows up and kicks serious ass. Did you want to shock all his detractors ?


HK: Well yes, that was my plan all along. The main theme of MGS4 is "Sense". What we've done to Raiden as a character, and how you react to him...that's all a part of it. We're going to experiment with many things, many viewpoints, and really try to challenge players' expectations and beliefs.

EGM: Will we be surprised by how other characters have changed ?

HK: Yes, exactly. We're going to have a real all-star lineup of characters. I can't give you a full rundown yet, but there are characters from MGS1, MGS2, and MGS3 here. I really want to get all the characters that everyone loved and hated into MGS4.

EGM: MGS4 seems like a bleak game--is this a reflection of current events ?

HK: Yes, it does relate to all the strife across the globe. It's all over the game. Even the music--it won't be traditional MGS music. That haunting vocal in the trailer is the game's main them. We're changing the graphical style, too. We wanted to make it clearer, more distinct, with a greater division between light and dark.

EGM: Can you bring your team from the upcoming Metal Gear Portable Ops (PSP) into the online mode for MGS4 ?

HK: We're thinking about that, definitely. But maybe MPO and MGS4 won't quite match up in terms o timing. We'd like to incluide the ability to move your team between the two, though. It's funny, the MGO and MPO acronyms are kind of a joke; we take it from the term NPO, because Kojima Productions isn't really like a business persuant entity--it's more like a non-profit organization. [Laughs]

EGM: What excited you the most at E3 ?

HK: Nintendo Wii.

[wanderlust]

IGN has a seemingly even better version: its size is

However, my experience tells me IGN videos are very poorly encoded, even those tagged as HD.
yeah, the ign version is MUCH better than the gspot trailer.

[yoshaw]

Do you have the link for the 720p IGN video?

[Handycrap101]

EDIT: NEVERMIND!!

It's on the front page!

I'm downloading the HD version now. Whoever has AIM please IM me at Fort Mccubble (its my bros s/n). I'll send it to you so you can upload for everyones viewing pleasure.

http://media.ps3.ign.com/media/714/714044/vids_1.html

[solidsnakejej]

Go to the end of this page theres a comparison of the two version. The IGN looks darker but sharper.
http://www.metalgearsolid.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=9855 and here (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=3634742&postcount=2957)

[yoshaw]

Go to the end of this page theres a comparison of the two version. The IGN looks darker but sharper.
http://www.metalgearsolid.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=9855

Yup IGN's much better in quality and has no interlacing artifacts. Also look at the TEXT in the IGN version(it's super crisp). Gamespot has this weird interlacing all over it and the text is all messed up too. Sux bigtime!

PS: BTW, I spotted MILR on the neogaf forums. WTF!? Here I thought he wanted to take a break from the usual 'I want everything real' obsession and spend some time doing soul searching yoga or something, LOL. God dang Drama queens. :laugh:

[Z]

so Snake originally had even his face change in the camo scenes. too bad it didn't look good. I thought it would be great seeing that.

[Handycrap101]

Ohhh boy I just watched the IGN 720p version and is it beautiful. I'm sending it to masteratt now who will be uploading it all for you so be patient.

[masteratt]

Don't wait here refreshing the thread guys. ;)

I estimate 4hours (max) until I have the vid ready for download.
Apologies for that but it is 1GB.

[Nameless]

The higher resolution allows you to really appreciate the subtle details of the graphics engine, simply stunning... The lighting effects, particles and shadowing are the best I have ever seen in real-time. This game is definitely the closet thing I have seen to CG quality in real-time and that includes the FFXIII trailer. The real-time footage of MGS is a cut above the real-time footage shown of any game to date!

I wish Kojima would release a direct feed native 720P trailer so we could really appreciate all the hard work put into the game engine.

Also, I hope team Kojima get the camera system right for this game so we can really appreciate the stunning visuals. The trailer makes me think we may see a 3rd person/ 1st person hybrid camera system.

I can't wait till TGS to see more information regarding this title. :drool:

[GTShotoKen]

The natural movement of the characters' skin in 720p is absolutely amazing.

I do wonder how Snake's stealth and combat techniques will evolve in this game.

[Voidler]

Someone just put it up on torrent

[EvilTaru]

The natural movement of the characters' skin in 720p is absolutely amazing.

I do wonder how Snake's stealth and combat techniques will evolve in this game.

The way Snake frowns and raises his eyebrows is very natural. I'm really digging those wrinkles, whoever was researching the wrinkles should give himself/herself a pat on the back. ~_~

[julps31]

Wow...MIRL is gone. I hate to say it but i'm glad. I feel like i can surf a lil more comfortably on the site now without every game being analyzed negativley. Anyway back to MGS4. Its sounds like its comin along lovely. I'm about to watch the new vid.

[yoshaw]

Someone just put it up on torrent

Finally, someone put up the torrent of the IGN trailer. Registration is required. Might have to wait a few hours too. But it's worth the IGN trailer I tell ya :pleased:

http://www.underground-gamer.com/details.php?id=5957

[GTShotoKen]

thanks for the link Yoshaw.

[solidsnakejej]

If someone has the ign trailer can you compare it with the 300MB one on gametrailers?

[Nameless]

The new gametrailer.com version is not bad...
It's a great alternative if you don't have torrent software or the patience to download a large file...

[Voidler]

Finally, someone put up the torrent of the IGN trailer. Registration is required. Might have to wait a few hours too. But it's worth the IGN trailer I tell ya :pleased:

http://www.underground-gamer.com/details.php?id=5957That's not the IGN trailer, the IGN trailer is ~1 GB in filesize. That's 700 mb, probably the Gamespot one or the old IGN one

[masteratt]

I am [have been for a while now] uploading the 1GB IGN version.

The bad point is that the max download limit is going to be 100Mb/sec.

[yoshaw]

That's not the IGN trailer, the IGN trailer is ~1 GB in filesize. That's 700 mb, probably the Gamespot one or the old IGN one

WTF you smoking! Can you pass some of that to me too. LOL ;)

Bro, look at the filesize of that torrent. It says clearly 0.99GB. It's not the old trailer. It's the new one god dangit!!! :whip: :realmad

Checkout this screengrab below from the same link!!! (http://www.underground-gamer.com/details.php?id=5957)

http://xs102.xs.to/xs102/06246/Smoking.jpg

If you don't want it then its another story. But dude atleast double check before you rain on the parade. Sheesh!

:rotate:

@Masteratt

Where are you uploading it? Wow, thanks, that'd be awesome as I'm on a 19hr wait before I can even begin the IGN trailer from undergroundgamer website. Major rep waiting for you when you finish uploading :) Oh and did you mean 100kb or 100mb download because 100mb limit is good enough as it is!!! 0_0

[Voidler]

WTF you smoking! Can you pass some of that to me too. LOL ;)

Bro, look at the filesize of that torrent. It says clearly 0.99GB. It's not the old trailer. It's the new one god dangit!!! :whip: :realmad

Checkout this screengrab below from the same link!!! (http://www.underground-gamer.com/details.php?id=5957)

http://xs102.xs.to/xs102/06246/Smoking.jpg

If you don't want it then its another story. But dude atleast double check before you rain on the parade. Sheesh!

:rotate: It might say 0.99GB there, but it isn't when you download it. Now where do you think that extra 300mb on the IGN trailer dissapeared to?

Go check the comments, Dark Reaper says himself it's not the HD trailer just released.

http://img154.imageshack.us/img154/476/dr1wx.jpg

http://www.underground-gamer.com/details.php?id=5232

I think you need to do the checking, kid ;)

[masteratt]

"Whare are you uploading it?"- Badongo (best place for 1GB upload I could find at this tiresom stage...I don't own any servers or any of that stuff unfortunately)

haha, yeah sorry- 100kb max :( Ah well, better than 96hrs of waiting(?)!! O_o
And I can 100% assure you that this is the FULL HD version from IGN Insider.

Also some credit has to be given to Handycrap 101 who sent me the vid via AIM.

[Voidler]

Why don't you just put it up on torrent for christs sakes? o_O

[masteratt]

Tell me how and I will.

Plus, I get the feeling many people don't enjoy torrent downloads around here.

[yoshaw]

Listen voidler, you're obviously clicking on the wrong link. That comment is from the 707mb torrent link. The new trailer torrent that I linked doesn't even have 6 comments as of this post!!! Are you doing this on purpose?

And Whoa, I could have called you a kid too mate. But I chose 'bro' instead. Anyways, lets not do that kind of ish ;). Now pass on the smoke lol j/k

New IGN 1GB true 720p Trailer I linked to (added on June17th).
http://www.underground-gamer.com/details.php?id=5957

Old 700mb IGN upscaled Trailer(added on 30th May) you keep associating mine with.(you posted the comment from this torrent, not mine)
http://www.underground-gamer.com/details.php?id=5232

Bah, I'm tired of explaining! I don't know how else I can tell you the link I provided is the new 1GB true 720p. LOL

@Masteratt
You can easily make a torrent file for any video from within your bittorrent client. I suggest utorrent as it is very simple to create stuff with it. You would need a tracker link too. Check your PM within a minute or two. I'll send you some trackers there(not appropriate for here)

[Voidler]

Listen voldier, you're obviously clicking on the wrong link. That comment is from the 707mb torrent link. The new trailer torrent doesn't even have 6 comments as of this post.

Whoa, I could have called you a kid too mate. But I chose 'bro' instead. Anyways, lets not do that kind of ish ;). Now pass on the smoke

New Trailer I linked to.
http://www.underground-gamer.com/details.php?id=5957

Old Trailer you keep associating mine with.(you posted the comment from this torrent, not mine)
http://www.underground-gamer.com/details.php?id=5232Ah, I see what's happened. I must've gotten to that page somehow, the comments and layout left me confused.

I called you a kid cause you were acting like a dick. But lets not argue any further, you were right, let bygones be bygones

[yoshaw]

Ah, I see what's happened. I must've gotten to that page somehow, the comments and layout left me confused.

I called you a kid cause you were acting like a dick. But lets not argue any further, you were right, let bygones be bygones


Yea right, jerk ass!


;)

[masteratt]

Fixed link: MGS4 HD Link! (Torrent) (http://www.fileupyours.com/files/44572/MGS4%20Full%20HD%20Trailer%20%5B15%20mins%5D.wmv.t orrent)

Thanks to 'Handycrap 101' for providing the vid for me to upload.
Enjoy.

[Smokey]

gamespot has a 788meg one im downloading now :)

[Smokey]

im gonna end up with about 4 versions of this (hidef) trailier lol :)

[VG Aficionado]

I've got uncountable versions of all four (two short, two long) MGS4 trailers :-p

gamespot has a 788meg one im downloading nowYesterday's version was something like 695 MB :huh: I'm going to check that.

EDIT: Indeed, they have a 807 MB version now :heybaby:

[yoshaw]

MGS4 HD Link! (Torrent) (http://www.fileupyours.com/files/44572/mgs41080i_061606_wmvhd.wmv.torrent)

Thanks to 'Handycrap 101' for providing the vid for me to upload.
Enjoy.

+rep for torrenting the video

[Voidler]

Yea right, jerk ass!


;):quagmire:

[Voidler]

I've got uncountable versions of all four (two short, two long) MGS4 trailers :-p

Yesterday's version was something like 695 MB :huh: I'm going to check that.

EDIT: Indeed, now they have a 807 MB version now :heybaby:Perhpas they fixed the interlacing. I'll download it and get some caps

[yoshaw]

Is anyone else having a problem with the torrent masteratt provided. I'm only seeing 2 leechers and 0 seeders. 0_o

Masteratt, can you check if you have opened the same torrent file in your BT client and linked it to the 1GB video?

[Voidler]

masteratt actually has to seed it for it to work

[masteratt]

Fuck sake, I hate when I do stupid shit!

Fixing it now, new link soon. (My excuse: Haven't slept)

Urgh, sorry guys. I'm more pissed off than you are right now.

[masteratt]

This one should work without a hitch. (http://www.fileupyours.com/files/44572/MGS4%20Full%20HD%20Trailer%20%5B15%20mins%5D.wmv.t orrent)

[Illmatic]

Direct Link (http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=93D5D5D260FBEB3A) for those that still need it.

[yoshaw]

This one should work without a hitch. (http://www.fileupyours.com/files/44572/MGS4%20Full%20HD%20Trailer%20%5B15%20mins%5D.wmv.t orrent)

Yep, I can confirm this one is working :)

Thanks masteratt and good job with the torrent :)

Edit: If somehow the torrent doesn't work, add this tracker url http://tracker.prq.to/announce to the tracker list.

:worthy: :rockon: :pleased: :hugegrin:

Direct Link (http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=93D5D5D260FBEB3A) for those that still need it.

Just to make a note for everyone. This video is from gamespot. Vejita probably forgot to mention it. Still an awesome job to upload that much to yousendit. :worthy:

+rep Vejita and Materatt for their efforts. I'd do it too as soon as possible!!!!

[LiquidEagle]

I'm not getting any peers on masteratt's torrent link -- is there any other place (direct or Torrent) where I can get the 0.99 GB version? That's the best version, I'm guessing?

We should all be very glad this is out, too. 3 cheers for 720p MGS4!! Just remember the final game is going to look "much better" as Kojima said in EGM :shocked:

EDIT: Actually I'm having trouble connecting to the tracker -- any tips? I'm using BitTornado.

[VG Aficionado]

Apparently, IGN's 1 GB version could be uploaded to yousendit. Any volunteers? :-p

We should all be very glad this is out, too. 3 cheers for 720p MGS4!! Just remember the final game is going to look "much better" as Kojima said in EGM :shocked:Better and sharper! :hugegrin: A WMV video can't be compared to PS3's output.

[masteratt]

Meh, call me negative but I'm a bit ticked off it took this long to get it running. :smoke:

But to make up for it, I'll be seeding all day. :thumbl:

[VG Aficionado]

Just watched IGN's version.

It is sharper than yesterday's Gamespot version indeed, but it drops more frames than gamespot's. It may be my computer, but gamespot's played smoothly many times IGN's didn't.

[yoshaw]

The gamespot wmv was encoded with 7000kbps bitrate. You can check IGN's video bitrate in MPC too. File>Properties and then click the Details tab. It should be to the right of the fps number.

Usually very high bitrate encodings can bring even fast computers to their knees. I'm guessing the IGN video is encoded with a very high bitrate (judging from the overall sharpness of the text and video + the filesize). Let us know how much is the videobitrate for IGN's wmv.

[Twilight Prince]

is there any release date yet?

[Voidler]

7/7/2007 is the target

[Grovestreet]

What the hell...To long to wait :( Ah well Downloading the Gamespot Version now from that direct link :) Is the quality same as the torrent link?

[Z]

7/7/2007 is the target
don't get carried away too much with specualtion. the only hard date we have is sometime next year. it may likely be at the last two months of the year.

[Voidler]

don't get carried away too much with specualtion. the only hard date we have is sometime next year. it may likely be at the last two months of the year.Kojima confirmed that is the target. Or atleast that's the release date he'd like, but he's not too sure if they can deliver on time

[VG Aficionado]

Usually very high bitrate encodings can bring even fast computers to their knees. I'm guessing the IGN video is encoded with a very high bitrate (judging from the overall sharpness of the text and video + the filesize). Let us know how much is the videobitrate for IGN's wmv.10270 kbps. I don't think I have any other files with such a high bitrate, so I don't know if my PC can play them totally smoothly. However, CPU usage is around 50% when I play it.

What the hell...To long to wait :(July next year, too long? You've got to be kidding. This is not a launch game and it's probably PS3's greatest game in its first 2 years. If Kojima isn't satisfied with the result before July next year, I wish he delays it.

[Voidler]

Dude, did you stop seeding again?

[yoshaw]

10270 kbps. I don't think I have any other files with such a high bitrate, so I don't know if my PC can play them totally smoothly. However, CPU usage is around 50% when I play it.

10270kbps??? Oh boy! No wonder a lot of people are reporting chugging. That is an INSANE AMOUNT of bitrate encoding for any video. The official Xbox.com website had HALO3 trailer with 10000+kbps encoding and while it played fine on my PC. I know a lot of people(from where I got its link) were daring each other to play it on their PC's. LOL

Anyways, I feared it would be over 10000kbps for the video bitrate. That is gonna bring down a hell lot of computers to their knees without a doubt. 1GB memory + a 3Ghz CPU(or equivalent) + Some sort of Hardware acceleration, is a MUST for smooth HD files decoding with 10000+kbps bitrate.

PS: Dude VG, can you rename your IGN HD trailer to the following

MGS4 Full HD Trailer [15 mins].wmv

Then start masteratt's torrent in your BT client. Browse to your newly renamed IGN trailer and seed it. Don't forget to add the new tracker for optimal performance > http://tracker.prq.to/announce <

This would help the seeding process and also Masteratt as well. Thanks

Also, try going into your WMP10's Options>performance>Advanced and under Video acceleration
- Check the box called 'Use High Quality Mode' instead of 'overlay'.
- Then uncheck the box that says 'Drop frames to keep AV in sync'

See if that helps reduce the chugging in WMP10. :pope:

[Sephiroth_VII]

What's your GPU, 7800? When I play the trailer, it either chugs, or the A/V timing goers to hell.:emo:

[yoshaw]

What's your GPU, 7800? When I play the trailer, it either chugs, or the A/V timing goers to hell.:emo:

Mine is a 6600GT :). CPU, Speedy HDD and RAM also matter while playing HD videos. How much of those three you got? 3Ghz, SATA HDD(16mb buffer) and 1GB 333Mhz DDR here. Gamespot video works flawlessly(although the trailer itself has chugging, not our PC's fault you see). Waiting on the IGN trailer, hopefully it plays fine like the uber quality Halo3 trailer.

BTW, Which MGS4 HD video are you playing? The IGN or the Gamespot one?

PS: If you haven't defragmented your HDD in ages. I think now is the perfect time to do it. A defragmented HDD significantly helps HD file viewing!

[Goki]

non of the seeds for the ign vids are working for me....

[yoshaw]

non of the seeds for the ign vids are working for me....

The torrent is steadily progressing even without showing a seed(which means it's there but hidden). Just keep connected and make sure you're uploading something. BT works fast only if you're uploading steadily as well. It slows down downloading if your upload slows down.

Should be done 100% within the next 6-8 hours :) Currently the highest leecher is at 57%. Have patience!

[Goki]

^^ ah i see, i think the programme im using aint so good, its called ABC an I was max getting like 30kbps but now i got nothing.

[Sephiroth_VII]

HDD=500 gb 7200 PRM(Newly defragmented)
RAM=1024
GPU=6600 128mb
CPU=Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.20GHz 1603.2

I don't know how to find my RAM speeds though.

[yoshaw]

HDD=500 gb 7200 PRM(Newly defragmented)
RAM=1024
GPU=6600 128mb
CPU=Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.20GHz 1603.2

I don't know how to find my RAM speeds though.

Your HD vids shouldn't be skipping at all with that kind of firepower under the hood! Maybe you're mistaking the trailers internal chugging(which Kojma himself admitted) with your PC hardware? Or maybe it is the IGN encoders fault. I have yet to see it though.

[Fazares]

i dont know if this gpu thing does matter that much seeing i m playing it with a mere geforce2 64mb and its quite smooth...
btw i m using BS player....better than wmp when it comes to HD footage....at least in my case:shrug:

[Sephiroth_VII]

Your HD vids shouldn't be skipping at all with that kind of firepower under the hood! Maybe you're mistaking the trailers internal chugging(which Kojma himself admitted) with your PC hardware? Or maybe it is the IGN encoders fault. I have yet to see it though.
It's the gamespot one, and it's not the normal chugging, I'm quite sure. Can anyone get me a program, that can measure the speed of my ram? Thanks in advance. For the record, my motherboard is an ASUS P4VP-MX.

Any help will be appreciated.

EDIT: BSplayer... Isn't that the one which is nickname BullShit player?

[yoshaw]

Wow, just finished downloading the 2nd ver. of the Gamespot HD trailer. It's not bad at all. The interlacing is gone and the picture is quite good but I've yet to see the IGN trailer for any valid comparison. Till then Gamespot ver.2 has won me over bigtime. Version1 pales in comparison to this new file.

Screenshot comparison:

Gamespot ver.1 / Gamespot ver.2

Interlaced / Progressive

691MB unzipped / 790MB unzipped

7000kbps video bitrate / 8000kbps video bitrate

http://xs202.xs.to/xs202/06246/Gamespot_Version1.jpg.xs.jpg (http://xs.to/xs.php?h=xs202&d=06246&f=Gamespot_Version1.jpg) / http://xs202.xs.to/xs202/06246/Gamespot_Version2.jpg.xs.jpg (http://xs.to/xs.php?h=xs202&d=06246&f=Gamespot_Version2.jpg)

Note: Only version2 is available at Gamespot now. Version1 was removed yesterday off their site.

[Z]

the joke of the day:

"I am downloading it on my dial-up connection! it should be finished only two days before the game launches!"

[GTShotoKen]

Wow, just finished downloading the 2nd ver. of the Gamespot HD trailer. It's not bad at all. The interlacing is gone and the picture is quite good but I've yet to see the IGN trailer for any valid comparison. Till then Gamespot ver.2 has won me over bigtime. Version1 pales in comparison to this new file.

Screenshot comparison:

Gamespot ver.1 / Gamespot ver.2

Interlaced / Progressive

691MB unzipped / 790MB unzipped

7000kbps video bitrate / 8000kbps video bitrate


Note: Only version2 is available at Gamespot now. Version1 was removed yesterday off their site.

I was wondering why I keep seeing the same trailer on their site, but one had 800MB and the other had 700MB.

Wow, it looks like my torrent of the IGN version will be finished in about a Day or two...wonderful...

[Goki]

3 weeks for me....

[Voidler]

Got the IGN trailer, it does chug so I'm gonna have to lower the bit rate :-\

[GTShotoKen]

The IGN trailer finally finished.

Their trailer was significantly better than the gamespot trailer and it ran like a dream.

I can't believe the amount of detail I wasn't seeing when I watched those other low quality vids. I even missed details in the gamespot version!

Now if they only had one at 1080p and at 60fps!!!! Now that would be amazing. That would really test my comp.

[Sephiroth_VII]

I can't make it stop chugging, so I'm gonna have to wait for PS3, then use it to play the trailer...

[Voidler]

I can't make it stop chugging, so I'm gonna have to wait for PS3, then use it to play the trailer...Download Blaze Media Pro and convert it to avi (Xvid mpeg 4), the detail will be slightly less but it should run smooth.

Or maybe you just have too many programs running in the background while you're trying to play that video

[Sephiroth_VII]

No programs, I even tried shutting down explorer. It's funny that you mention that program, since I downloaded the 15-day trial today for a totally different purpose. But I don't want to downgrade the trailer, since I shouldn't have any problems playing it! I'm so pissed at my PC right now:realmad

[GTShotoKen]

I recommend a videoplayer called Zoomplayer.

It allows you to increase the thread priority of the player without crashing your computer.

I used it alot to play high-def footage that my old comp could never run without dedicating too much power to it.

[Voidler]

Try clearing up space on your HDD if you need it, and run a disk defragment

[Sephiroth_VII]

defrag, done. I've got lots of space. I'll try Zoomplayer, GG. Thanks for the advice.

[Shadow Voa]

Hey Seph, there I posted in the MGS4 forums haha. However, I think I'll tinker around with the theories I spoke to you about before posting them.

Cheers all!!!

[Xerxes]

Just watched the 720p version in FULL 720p at IGN awsome!

[Sephiroth_VII]

Problem solved, I need a sound card. When I disable the audio, it doesn't chug at all, and CPU use goes down to 60%. I guess that's it.

[GTShotoKen]

Problem solved, I need a sound card. When I disable the audio, it doesn't chug at all, and CPU use goes down to 60%. I guess that's it.

So are you gonna play it with no sound now? :lol:

[Voidler]

Problem solved, I need a sound card. When I disable the audio, it doesn't chug at all, and CPU use goes down to 60%. I guess that's it.It probably is still chugging, you just don't notice cause you can't tell if the sound is out of sync

[makeitlookreal]

I downloaded the IGN video and it looks very, very good. I cannot wait to play MGS4. Thanks MASTERATT for uploading it.

[GTShotoKen]

I downloaded the IGN video and it looks very, very good. I cannot wait to play MGS4. Thanks MASTERATT for uploading it.

Yes the quality is good.

But anyways, great to have you back MILR. Your posts were always interesting to read.

Try not to have a change of heart again ok. :)

Good things come to those who wait, and in this case...it is the 720p MGS4 vid. ;)

[makeitlookreal]

Gaming Guru,

Thanks for the kind words. If you get a chance read my apology to the forums on the sticky thread about my banning. I hope it explains some of my actions over the past couple months.

Also, I am very excited about MGS4. This trailer looks great, it seems the game will have a great storyline, apparently the game is going to have a new kind of camera system, and Kojima has a year to work on the game. By the time it is released my guess is we will be floored with it's quality.

By the way, did you notice how Snake's mustache looks so much more natural? It was one thing from the TGS video that kinda stuck out in my mind as a little "off" so to speak.

Now, I'm not going to get into a huff and puff about it of course, but this is not the TRUE 720P digitally transfered trailer. I read a post somewhere in which a person explained how it was a "tape to digital" transfer. But in my opinion, this is more than good enough until we see the next stage of MGS4's development.

[GTShotoKen]

Yeah, it's still noticeable that the trailer isn't true 720p, but it's leaps and bounds better than what we previously.

I'm waiting for a 60fps version of the trailer, but I doubt that will happen though.

[LiquidEagle]

http://www.famitsu.com/game/coming/2006/06/16/104,1150461214,55106,0,0.html

Looks like Famitsu's got some new MGS4 stuff (could just be an E3 report) in the issue that's been on stands for a couple of days in Japan... Not sure if there's any new news but I figured it's worth taking a look at. Babelfish translation didn't tell me anything new but they did point out the pin on Campbell's suit... When I look at it closely it looks like it's a United Nations pin, not sure what else it could be. I'm really interested to know how Campbell, Snake, & Otacon have been spending this time they've had between MGS2 and MGS4. I still think it's a 2 year difference so I wonder what they were doing to track down Ocelot, Olga's Baby, and the Patriots, and how Snake/Campbell/Otacon could still be out & about flying in UN/US choppers when the Patriots probably want them dead...

[Viano]

http://www.famitsu.com/game/coming/2006/06/16/104,1150461214,55106,0,0.html

Looks like Famitsu's got some new MGS4 stuff (could just be an E3 report) in the issue that's been on stands for a couple of days in Japan... Not sure if there's any new news but I figured it's worth taking a look at. Babelfish translation didn't tell me anything new but they did point out the pin on Campbell's suit... When I look at it closely it looks like it's a United Nations pin, not sure what else it could be. I'm really interested to know how Campbell, Snake, & Otacon have been spending this time they've had between MGS2 and MGS4. I still think it's a 2 year difference so I wonder what they were doing to track down Ocelot, Olga's Baby, and the Patriots, and how Snake/Campbell/Otacon could still be out & about flying in UN/US choppers when the Patriots probably want them dead...

just saw this few sec ago..ok im gonna get one now...loL

[LiquidEagle]

just saw this few sec ago..ok im gonna get one now...loL


A Famitsu or a United Nations pin? :laugh:

If you're talking about Famitsu, please spill all info! :-D

If you're talking about a UN pin, I'd have to say you're taking MGS even more seriously than I am, and that's cause for concern :-p

[Smokey]

i just converted that 788 meg download to dvd format & put it on a dvd & watched it on the big screen OMG im in heaven :cloud9:

cant wait :) :)

[Sephiroth_VII]

You converted the HD to non-HD? Or do you have an HD-tv? I hope it's the first, because then I'll be doing the same:-p

Oh, and MILR?




Glad to have you back:cheers:

[Smokey]

i have a ed def plasma but god damn it looks pretty, im gonna try it on my mates hi defplasma and see how it looks :)

[Sephiroth_VII]

Good luck. I'm converting it to DVD right now!

[Nasadus]

I came across something strange. I just recived a mail from gamespot and there they had a link to the MGS4 15 minute trailer. Nothing unusual there, but look at the picture. Could that actually be the first MGS4 shot that's actaully in-game, hud and all? I can't really tell because it's so small but it's certainly looks that way.

http://img48.imageshack.us/img48/8462/gamespotcopy3pb.th.jpg (http://img48.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gamespotcopy3pb.jpg)

[masteratt]

Nah.
Doesn't look MGSish at all.

[curryking1]

@Nasadus

Hey that may be a really good find. I zoomed in on it and stuff and the health bar stays true to the series lol. But I think I should just say that Gamespot sometimes makes mistakes on their pictures and text and sometimes the pictures are not even from the same game lol.

I've never seen that particular picture for any game before tho so maybe Gamespot has material we don't know about or they just screwed up, hard to say! Nice pick up tho!

[LaLiLuLeLo]

doesn't really look like mgs4, from what I can tell. probably a mix up.

[makeitlookreal]

How does health regenerate in the MGS series? I mean, does it slowly regenerate, do you have to go find herbs, are bandages found here and there, or are powerup floating at certain points in the game?

One thing I have been thinking about is how in next-gen realistic games how are they going to handle the health issue. For example, if your character gets knifed in the gut, but survives and kills the enemy how can you just run to a floating health powerup and get better?

Another way of thinking about the MGS4 universe is that perhaps medical technology has evolved and by injecting something into the wound perhaps nanites could work some amazing things.

[LiquidEagle]

Nasadus, do you still have the e-mail? Maybe you could check the URL of the image and see where it's located, so you could see if it's grouped with other MGS4 pictures or from some other place...something like that :laugh:

[LiquidEagle]

Actually I just found the picture -- it's Chromehounds.

http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/action/chromehounds/screenindex.html

Check it out on that page. I don't think Gamespot would be the first to break such big news anyways :-p

[Handycrap101]

Yea... that didn't look MGS at all. I got excited for a breif moment but realized that they wouldn't reveal the first in-game shot through a tiny thumbnail.

[Nasadus]

Well, that's that then. It did kind of look the same enviroment as MGS4 with the desert and all.:beer:

[curryking1]

Actually I just found the picture -- it's Chromehounds.

http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/action/chromehounds/screenindex.html

Check it out on that page. I don't think Gamespot would be the first to break such big news anyways :-p

I was thinking that!

[Xerxes]

There is no new info out yet is there?

[Maya 5.0]

Wait for TGS.

[Sephiroth_VII]

New Interview?
Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots will not feature Raiden as a playable character, director Hideo Kojima has confirmed. However, the flopsy-haired agent everyone loves to hate will "play an active role in the story," says Kojima, and we can "expect to learn the reason behind [Raiden's] character design through the course of MGS4's story."

Kojima revealed this info during a staged interview with Show Maybe?, a Konami-created spoof version of the daily newsletter produced for and circulated at last month's E3 show (be sure to check out the online version of it). He also fleshed out the plot of his latest masterpiece. MGS4 is set five to 10 years in the future, where "all of the weapons and war zones are controlled by nanotechnology" and the business of war has been taken over by "private military companies."

Liquid Snake returns as commander of the private military company Outer Heaven, wielding "military strength equivalent to the rest of the world's combined power." Solid Snake is sent "somewhere in the Middle East" by the United Nations to foil Liquid's plans.

But, as recent MGS4 trailers show, Snake's clocking up the years. "Snake's vigor - his existence - has started to wither," Kojima explains. "His face has aged a lot, but he's actually much younger than he seems. His body suffers from accelerated aging because he was born from the genetic engineering project, Les Enfants Terribles."

Finally, Kojima lists the recurring members of Metal Gear's cast. Naomi Hunter is back, having "successfully escaped after having been captured in Metal Gear Solid," and Campbell returns, old but "more vigorous than Snake." Meryl Silverburgh, who also played a big role in the PSone Metal Gear Solid, will finally resurface, this time as a commanding officer and leader of FOXHOUND.

MGS4 is likely to be the final episode of Snake's adventures - though that's what was said about MGS3. "I had actually intended to complete the series with MGS3," Kojima says. "I decided to make MGS4 because so many mysteries still remained, and I couldn't ignore all the people who had requested a new game."
Source (http://www.gamesradar.com/us/ps3/game/news/article.jsp?sectionId=1006&articleId=20060616151118866040&releaseId=20051216153655522074)

[masteratt]

...and I couldn't ignore all the people who had requested a new game."

Well, if that's the case...He should be prepared to work on MGS5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11 etc!
No escape from MGS now Hideo :) :evil:

[Smokey]

damn lets anoy him for another 5 games then :)

[makeitlookreal]

Well, I think Hideo deserves a break, but more MGS games would of course be very cool.

Perhaps he has an apprentice somewhere that he could hand off the MGS legacy to? He could still be involved, check in from time to time, and be able to lets say veto elements of any future game he does not like. But 90% of the development and decisions would be done by someone else of his choice.

That way we could get more MGS games and perhaps even more unique ideas for the series, but also give Hideo a well deserved rest!

[LiquidEagle]

That's what he's doing with MGS4, MILR. He wanted to leave MGS after finishing MGS2 so he wrote up the design doc for Snake Eater, and asked for somebody to step forward & take the director's chair. Nobody did, so he realized he needed to stay with it and he did MGS3. With MGS4 though, Shuyo Murata is stepping up as director & he also co-wrote MGS4. Murata was the director of Zone of the Enders: The 2nd Runner, which was an absolutely amazing game (my favorite of 2003 fo sho). Kojima's still directing and writing but I think his role will start to diminish (assuming we still get MGS games after this one) down the road as he gets to be more involved in new games. Each new MGS has been incredible to experience so it'll be a shame for that to end, but I can also respect the need for Kojima to do something new... like a US Port for Policenauts.... ;)

[overclocked]

Well, I think Hideo deserves a break, but more MGS games would of course be very cool.

Perhaps he has an apprentice somewhere that he could hand off the MGS legacy to? He could still be involved, check in from time to time, and be able to lets say veto elements of any future game he does not like. But 90% of the development and decisions would be done by someone else of his choice.

That way we could get more MGS games and perhaps even more unique ideas for the series, but also give Hideo a well deserved rest!

I rather see ZOE3 actually. Snake will die so base another game on Raiden instead as we know his history aswell as Snakes.

Depending if you have played the earlier MGS titles. If you havent then i suggest you pick up MGS2 and 3.

[LiquidEagle]

No guarantee that Snake will die :-p right now I'm predicting that Otacon will die and Snake will live & go into a sort of permanent seclusion for the rest of his days (however many there are). It's obviously an early prediction but I don't think Snake is 100% certain to die. Nothing is 100% certain in MGS until we've played it ;)

[overclocked]

No guarantee that Snake will die :-p right now I'm predicting that Otacon will die and Snake will live & go into a sort of permanent seclusion for the rest of his days (however many there are). It's obviously an early prediction but I don't think Snake is 100% certain to die. Nothing is 100% certain in MGS until we've played it ;)

Its time for it, just a "gut" feeling.. And then move on so to say. A final last MGS with RAIDEN but imagine playing Snake sitting in a wheelchair and his only weapon is too "piss" down the enemies.. :hugegrin:

[Nameless]

Snake can't die...
Nooooooooooo Snake Snaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaake!!!

I couldn't resist... LOL :)

[VG Aficionado]

I can confirm you Snake will not die.

In my heart, that is.

[Sephiroth_VII]

You know what? After Snake Vs. Monkey, I don't doubt that this could be included as a mini-game in MGS4...

[LiquidEagle]

Well we've been told that this is Solid Snake's last MGS but that doesn't necessarily mean he's gonna die... Obviously that's an option and the trailer leads us to believe that Snake wants to die in a way, but I thought Kojima said awhile back that he wasn't going to kill off Snake, and I still don't count out the possibility of different things happening since MGS trailers can be deceptive :-p

I think we already got a preview of that peeing minigame with that guard pissing on Raiden in MGS2. That's why FOX-HOUND is a "wet-works" organization :laugh:

[makeitlookreal]

Anyone watch the IGN video in HIGH QUALITY MODE in WMV?

It really helps to enhance the quality. The game is already amazing, but I noticed even more details and especially better color after turning it on. This game is going to be amazing to play. I just can't express how fun it is going to be to play through a game that looks similiar to a movie.

BTW, does anyone else have any tips on how to make the clip look as good as possible in WMV?

[GTShotoKen]

Anyone watch the IGN video in HIGH QUALITY MODE in WMV?

It really helps to enhance the quality. The game is already amazing, but I noticed even more details and especially better color after turning it on. This game is going to be amazing to play. I just can't express how fun it is going to be to play through a game that looks similiar to a movie.

BTW, does anyone else have any tips on how to make the clip look as good as possible in WMV?

If your videocard has hardware accelerated video playback then I would use overlays instead of high quality mode, since you can adjust many quality components with your videocard drivers.

You could also use WMV classic, which has built in de-interlacing and sharpening algorithms to further enhance the video quality too.

[Handycrap101]

Drakenhoff from GameFaqs typed it out and two people confirmed the release of the magazine 2 weeks ago.


I HIGHLY WARN EVERYONE TO THINK ABOUT WHAT YOU ARE ABOUT TO READ!
MAJOR SPOILERS!
Drakenhoff from Gamefaqs posted:Here are some of the question asked in an interview with Kojima and the British Official Playstation 2 magazine

OPS2: Will Raiden be a playable Character?

Kojima: This time only Snake will be the only playable character. Raiden only appears as an AI-conrolled supporting character.

OPS2: The trailer shows snake attending a funeral. Whose is it?

Kojima: I'll give you a hint: It's probably the person you're thinking of...

OPS2: How will you feel if snake dies in MGS4?

Kojima: I'm very happy if Snake dies because I don't have to create MGS anymore! Even If Snake dies he will live on in all of your hearts. In Japan, the main chracter often dies and becomes a legend. Since I don't know how western audiences will respond to this, so I may have second thoughts. I CANNOT REVEAL THE REASON, BUT STORYWISE SNAKE HAS TO DIE!

Well there you go, there's two more questions on the octo-suit and the lack of dual shock/integration of motion senor which I couldn't be bothered to post but I will if anyone wants me to.

The sources I've provided you with are all I have to offer. If you wish to investigate how valid this actually is then do so. This is all I have to give though. If this is true though... I BETTER get hella reps.

[masteratt]

*raises hand*

I want you to post.

[Epix]

Drakenhoff from GameFaqs typed it out and two people confirmed the release of the magazine 2 weeks ago.


I HIGHLY WARN EVERYONE TO THINK ABOUT WHAT YOU ARE ABOUT TO READ!
MAJOR SPOILERS!

The sources I've provided you with are all I have to offer. If you wish to investigate how valid this actually is then do so. This is all I have to give though. If this is true though... I BETTER get hella reps.


Snifff....Snifff....I smell BS...

[VG Aficionado]

Yes, you certainly deserve to be -repped for posting that Snake has to die :cry2:

Seriously though, the greatest heroes die. Snake would be no exception as long as his death is worth the cause.

I will always remember you, Solid Snake :salute:

[Coded-Dude]

you just completely ruined the spoiler tag by printing that plainly......good job
(not that I care, but someone else, ahh what the hell do I care anyways.....oh wait I don't - nevermind ;-] )

[VG Aficionado]

C'mon, there's been too much talk about Snake dying in MGS4, mostly in this thread. Not that it needs spoiler tags when there's no official confirmation at all just yet :cowboy: Other than he's got 6 more months to live :cry2: :cry2: :cry2:

[Coded-Dude]

yeah I was jsut trying to be an asss, please forigive me! :grouphug:

[Nameless]

Nooooooooooooooooo Snaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaake!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I still would like to see a Ninja Gaiden style game with Raiden, that would be tight!!!

[LiquidEagle]

Well for one thing... Snake wasn't attending a funeral... if it's the grave we think it is (The Boss') then she was dead long before Snake could have attended any funeral :-p

Either way, I think we can take Kojima's word when he talks about game mechanics and whether or not we'll be playing as Raiden/Snake, but when it comes to story I wait until I play it myself. I think it would be a mistake to go into MGS4 expecting Snake to die. Things are never what they seem so I wouldn't jump the gun here, guys ;)

Of course a scan of that article would be nice to prove its legitimacy too :-D

[GTShotoKen]

This is weird because there are several video interviews with Kojima with him saying that Snake doesn't die, but his role as the hero of the metal gear series will end.

I think that is what he meant in the interview (if it's legit?).

Maybe Snakes death will be faked or something?

Crap Handycrap, why in the hell did you have to get me so worked up over Metal Gear again when I was starting to relax off of the issue!!!!! :(

[masonite]

maybe itll be like one of those westerns where the hero rides into the sunset, slumped over on his horse, and you never really know whether he's dead or not. "storywise snake has to die" means that he may not physically die but just no longer appears in further episodes of metal gear (hence his "death" from the series). itll be funny (read: dissapointing) if hideo took the easy way out - make it like a normal mgs, snake wins, saves the day, gets the girl, waves goodbye....and gets hit by a bus when he's crossing the road. or if he puts the gun in his mouth, then takes it out and says "just kidding" and then accidentaly pulls the trigger... although given recent events in australia, i probably shouldnt joke about that...

[makeitlookreal]

What needs to happen is that Solid Snake's DNA allows for a repaired clone to be made and then his mind downloaded into the new body. This way "Snake" can die, but can have a life that is about more than warfare and combat. Quite frankly, I will be disapointed if Snake dies, but realize not all stories have happy endings. But in the fantasy world of video games it sure is nice for them to happen!

[Voidler]

What needs to happen is that Solid Snake's DNA allows for a repaired clone to be made and then his mind downloaded into the new body. This way "Snake" can die, but can have a life that is about more than warfare and combat. Quite frankly, I will be disapointed if Snake dies, but realize not all stories have happy endings. But in the fantasy world of video games it sure is nice for them to happen!That doesn't even make sense in the context of his character, shut up with your theories :XD:

[Kratos]

LMAO voidler's vagina LMAO

[Kratos]

That doesn't even make sense in the context of his character, shut up with your theories :XD:

rofl cry more plz

[VG Aficionado]

What needs to happen is that Solid Snake's DNA allows for a repaired clone to be made and then his mind downloaded into the new body. This way "Snake" can die, but can have a life that is about more than warfare and combat. Quite frankly, I will be disapointed if Snake dies, but realize not all stories have happy endings. But in the fantasy world of video games it sure is nice for them to happen!If you want the MGS series to get ruined and become ordinary by making a totally happy and clichéd ending like that, yes, that's a good way.

[Gaul]

I would watch the videos but unfortunately my internet downloads at an average of 30kbps. I've been downloading a file 1.4Gigs for an estimated 4-5 hours now. (I have to use Xfire to download so i can pause it at any time. Suprisingly I think XFire gives me the best download speeds anyway)

[cliffbo]

Snifff....Snifff....I smell BS...

it is in the mag....

[Handycrap101]

I think what some people fail to notice is that Snake himself can die but Kojima is talking about the characters prescense. We all know Kojima is a nut and for him to hint at somthing like that isn't far-fetched at all. I'm also surprised some of the investigators we have on this board haven't taken it upon themselves to check out the sources I've provided.

P.S. Rioter- Come down today and I'll be able to show you the HD version.

[overclocked]

Btw is there a big difference between the 700Mb version i dloaded and IGNs and there was some at 800Mb also(?). :shrug:

[solidsnakejej]

It's true here are the scans
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c43/JOD_1981/Picture001.jpg
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c43/JOD_1981/Picture.jpg
From MGS:TUS forums.
http://www.metalgearsolid.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=9959&start=35

[masteratt]

One thing boggles my mind:

Why is this magazine still trying to make jokes?

[Handycrap101]

If there is a funeral to comemorate Snake as a fictional character...who here would go? I recall reading from someone else on the MGS boards on IGN there was an actual funeral for this one anime character who died. Some sort of boxing character. I have a feeling a large flock of otaku would seriously do somthing like that.

This is really disapointing though.

[LiquidEagle]

I wouldn't go to a funeral for Solid Snake... that's taking things too far, regardless of how much you love the characters. Thanks for the scans though, snake!! Like Masteratt, I still can't believe these guys try to crack so many jokes...they're terrible jokes :(

Story-wise, Snake does have to die because like he said he has to wipe his MEME from the planet and get rid of the "cursed genes" that are probably viewed as a disease or something on the planet and to other people. In that way, he does have to die, but when it comes to MGS I believe it when I see it in the games.

[Z]

I don't know what all the fuss is about. that interview is old and was linked here as well.

[makeitlookreal]

If Snake is to die (and cannot be cloned to live on) I hope his final act is SO HEROIC that everyone involved is amazed. Perhaps he could be the national hero at the end, and instead of having a tombstone wth no name a monument could be built.

Solid Snake

He Saved The World

A Lot!

[overclocked]

By the way everyone, I can't stop watching the MGS4 video from IGN. It is simply amazing. Since I don't know a lot about the MGS series I decided to check out the graphics from MGS3 Snake Eater and Subsistance (which use the same engine but Subsistance allows for different camera views). The result is that even though MGS3 looks VERY good for a PS2 game I do believe the leap to MGS4 on the PS3 is quite significant.

Many people have claimed that the leap from PS1 to PS2 is larger than the leap to PS3. This might be the case to some degree. But for a game being designed BEFORE the PS3 is even launched and BEFORE the hardware is finalized MGS4 is simply stunningly high in quality.

I think that the leap is going to be quite large even if in reality it could very well be smaller.

There is something i dont understand. Play the other MGS games, i mean how the hell would you know if you enjoy a game-series you never played.

[Z]

I do believe the leap to MGS4 on the PS3 is quite significant.
'duh' comment of the year.

[makeitlookreal]

Thanks Z! That was funny! :-)

Overclocked,

All I can say is that the game looks very fun from the IGN video. Seriously, just being able to play almost *any* sort of game that looks THAT realistic would be really, really fun. Also, after reading through some of the history of the MGS series I find the storyline interesting as well. Being able to roam around through such a city seems facinating, and finally the game looks just that darn cool.

I like a variety of movies and MGS4 seems like a movie to *some* extent, so I think I will enjoy it. Now, normally I am not the BIGGEST fan of "military" movies (really enjoyed saving private ryan) but the scifi twist in MGS4 in my opinion is the perfect blending of two genres.

[Nameless]

MILR, MGS3 had some of the best graphics on PS2, it' worth the time and a great title. Also, I would recommend RE4 another visually impressive title on the Gamecube or PS2. Peace

[Z]

I recommend FF: The Spirits With in. if you want more sci fi action, go with FF: Advent Children. these are some of the best looking games ever made.
just don't be alarmed if the controlls are a bit off. the graphics totally make up for it.

I would have recommended Shrek 3, but you want a more 'realistic' touch, so wait till the next SE movie, er, game.

[makeitlookreal]

A friend of mine who is looking forward to MGS4 used to have a Gamecube and one of his games was RE4. I played it with him and do agree it was a fun game and very good looking. All of you are right that since we don't have the PS3 yet we need to be satisfied with PS2 games. I will totally admit that is the logical thing to do, but at the same time I find it hard to move past the graphics I have seen from the PS3. In some ways playing video games would be a good distraction for me right now, but I find myself too caught up in the PS3.

My brother has the PS2 I purchased for him several years ago (actually to be honest that one broke and someone game him a console) but convincing him to let me use it could cause another sudden surge of chaos in my home. I don't even know if he plays it anymore, but he and myself just don't get along very well.

Enough of all that, I did hear Advent Children had good graphics for the PS2 and has to do with an alien species and extraterrestrial life (that kinda stuff feeds the UFO/Scifi buff inside of me) and is tempting.

A long time ago I did see the Spirit's Within "movie" on TV, but did they make a game out of it as well?

By the way, what do you mean by "SE" movie?

Shrek was a funny movie, and I didn't even know there was a game out for it!

It seems for the past year I have been so caught up in PS3 stuff (and a tad of 360) that the PS2 has just slipped right by.

BTW, back to MGS. I think a LOT of content in MGS could be very close to reality. There are lots of military weapons that exist but are not disclosed to the public. Even cloning is a reality.

Quite frankly, my college biology professor told me the basic science of cloning is NOT that complicated and he believes that the military probably has been doing research in it for far long than civilian scientists. Also, he said that making a super soldier is not fiction and could be done even if many believe it would be unethical. By the way, I don't think he would have approved of such things, but was just stating that they could be done.

[yoshaw]

I recommend FF: The Spirits With in. if you want more sci fi action, go with FF: Advent Children. these are some of the best looking games ever made.
just don't be alarmed if the controlls are a bit off. the graphics totally make up for it.

I would have recommended Shrek 3, but you want a more 'realistic' touch, so wait till the next SE movie, er, game.

ROFL! :laugh:

I was reading your post like so seriously when it hit me all of a sudden LOL! Quote of the month for me due to the laugh I got out of it!

[venomv]

Don't confuse him like that, Z! lol, kidding. Advent Children and the Spirits Within are both movies, no games made of them, and SE is Square-Enix if you didn't catch that. And there are multiple Shreik games out there.

@MILR But anyway, like you said cloning has been done (just not to a human, well not that we are aware of), and true genetic engineering is on it's way. Some parts of the MGS games are just slightly out there, it's not as strange as some people see it as. You really should play the MGS games if you can get ahold of them and your brother let's you use his PS2.

[makeitlookreal]

There are accounts of UFO researchers or other scientists encountering black-op military folks and some of them look EXACTLY alike. I'm not into the UFO thing as much as I used to be (even though I am still facinated in it but the UFO community fell apart) or I could go pull you up some references. I just don't remember where to find a lot of stuff anymore.

Basically, knowing the military thinking on our planet I doubt that any advanced nation would turn down the chance to experiment with human cloning to make super soldiers. Now, I doubt they would make thousands of them but if you have a great soldier that is really healthy and seems to have a natural talent at things in their mind it would be stupid not to clone him. Also, there is enough known about genetics in the non-classified world to enhance the normal human genome at least moderately. In the REAL world such a thing would be horribly unethical, but in the black op military world I believe it would be acceptable to some people (even though I don't think it's right to do such a thing).

By the way, woundn't it be interesting if Solid Snake encountered a team of cloned special forces black op people somewhere in one of his missions in MGS4. I think it would be interesting.

[Z]

By the way, woundn't it be interesting if Solid Snake encountered a team of cloned special forces black op people somewhere in one of his missions in MGS4. I think it would be interesting.
he already did. in 1 & 2. and 4 will not only have clones, but nano-tech injected in the bodies that prevents enemies from backstabbing. "a soldier cannot rais a gun at his employer". something about controlling humans and machine vs human thing going on.
one of the famous quotes in 1 : "Liquid: how does it feel killing your brothers Snake?!"
There are accounts of UFO researchers or other scientists encountering black-op military folks and some of them look EXACTLY alike. I'm not into the UFO thing as much as I used to be (even though I am still facinated in it but the UFO community fell apart) or I could go pull you up some references. I just don't remember where to find a lot of stuff anymore.
oh, yeah. about that, that is one of my stupid experiments gone wrong. sorry I scared the world that much. it was purely unitentional. who knew it would be such a mess trying to figure out the next big thing after ketchup, mayo and mustard?
but fret not! I am continuing my secret work somewhere in China. all I know is that there is a tiny noodle shop next to me. I can't reveal anything more or I'll have to shoot you.

LiquidEagle
MGS4 will be in the Middle East among other places
about multiple locations; it has been announced, but I don't think they will be plenty or that diversed. we may see some outdoor and in door invironments and some mix between them (a mix from all MGS games). but I don't expect huge invironments adn exploring. if you think about it, every MGS games has been extremely limited and linear. even the outdoors in 3 were only 'bigger lanes'. the thing is, the games have alot of control and options, so making the environments huge will take more efforts and resources. I think the places you'll play in will be similar to the demo; small towns and such given different names and locations around the world.

that is to say I am not waiting for much in regards of diverse environments and explorations. we will see.

[yoshaw]

Anyone with a decent printer fancy MGS4 logo? Well, go on make A4 posters on yer walls! Or T-shirts. Oye, send me a piece as well :)

Black Version
http://xs302.xs.to/xs302/06253/MGS4_logo_black.png.xs.jpg (http://xs.to/xs.php?h=xs302&d=06253&f=MGS4_logo_black.png)

White Version
http://xs302.xs.to/xs302/06253/MGS4_logo_white.png.xs.jpg (http://xs.to/xs.php?h=xs302&d=06253&f=MGS4_logo_white.png)

More later. Stuff that would definitely make an MGS lover buy a new printer, I promise ;)


Edit: As promised, poster sized(2063x3131 pixels, Under 1MB) MGS images for you guys. Apparently these were created for marketing MGS Digital Graphic Novel for PSP :)

http://xs302.xs.to/xs302/06253/MGS_DIGITAL_poster.jpg.xs.jpg (http://xs.to/xs.php?h=xs302&d=06253&f=MGS_DIGITAL_poster.jpg)

http://xs302.xs.to/xs302/06253/Digital_cover_psp.jpg.xs.jpg (http://xs.to/xs.php?h=xs302&d=06253&f=Digital_cover_psp.jpg)

[LiquidEagle]

Yeah, they're on Konami's press disc from E3 :-p

[Sephiroth_VII]

Thanks!! Where did you get them?

EDIT: Press disc!?!?! ISO please, if anyone picked it up!

[LiquidEagle]

lemme try. brb :-p

I can use Nero to make an .nrg image, but I need Alcohol 120% to make an ISO, right?

[Sephiroth_VII]

You should be able to use Nero to make ISO's, but a .nrg file is fine. I've got Nero 7 too. ISO's are the most common though, so it'll probably be the best, since I might distribute it on BT later, if it isn't illegal.

[digital neXus]

Yeah put it on some torrentes

[digital neXus]

Finaly downloaded HD version and ...........WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT are they waiting for Go Sony, Go Sony, Go Sony and kick some ass.

[solidsnakejej]

New Kojima interview from PSM
http://www.metalgearsolid.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=10034

[VG Aficionado]

Awesome find solidsnakejej!!! There are many interesting tidbits, will edit this post as I read them:

- Raiden looks pale because his blood is white (!).

- Metal Gear Mk. II (Otacon's minigear) and the Solid Eye System will be in the final game. (YES!!! :hugegrin::hugegrin::hugegrin:)

- TGS trailer events happen chronologically after E3 trailer's events, although not all of them. (Note: I consider TGS' just a teaser)

- The Middle East will be the game's first location. Then Snake will travel around the world. (:hugegrin:)

- Some scenes in the E3 trailer may not be set in the Middle East, Kojima says tricks were used so that we thought so.

- Face paint will be used. The Octocamo will be obtained at some point early in the game. Snake will use regular camouflage too (a la MGS3). The Octocamo will be originally black.

- "?" and "!" trademarks may still be used.

- CQC will be back. Improved of course. Snake will also use special and unconventional moves used by special forces and military.

- Meryl's bullet earring is a wink to Policenauts.

[curryking1]

Thanks for the summary VG.

I like the part about traveling around the world. Oooohhh I can't wait to see a next gen modern urban environment (NYC maybe? Europe? CANADA!?! haha) and forested area (think MGS3) in MGS4.

I think the trick he is referring to is the colour palette. Everything had a deserty tint to it, maybe that's it. I think it would be those underground parts with Naomi and Meryl that end up being not part of the middle east. I think it's also the colour palette that is the trick because I bet Kojima and his team would like to have different colour palettes for different geographical areas (blue = cold and urban, browns and yellows = middle east, greens = forested).

Also, I liked Snake's suit in the TGS trailer better. They were both very nice and detailed, but I thought the TGS one was more aesthetically pleasing... does anyone else agree with me on this?

And improved CQC eh? Knife and M4 combo > you! lol!