Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots

[FantasyGhost]

Yeah guys i was just showing how Kojima is thinking, not that it would be released on the 360 or not.
The guy just sais they build it on the PS3 hardware, and they wouldn't want to build a game looking at the lowest common demoninator. like gta 4 and all the other third party games are.

[GTAce]

Yeah guys i was just showing how Kojima is thinking, not that it would be released on the 360 or not.
The guy just sais they build it on the PS3 hardware, and they wouldn't want to build a game looking at the lowest common demoninator. like gta 4 and all the other third party games are.

Ahh i love my PS3, yeah today im a fanboy because after the Gamer's Day stuff it just feels right LOL.

[solidsnakejej]

Also about the delay to 2008 Ryan said that they are working hard to get it out this year.

[VG Aficionado]

But that's fine, remember Xbox got a director's cut or something for MGS2...And it wasn't even as good as the original one and it flopped anyway :shrug:

1crap yet again going "OMG PS3 sux plz make a 360 version". Nothing new here.

[Shadow Voa]

True say, and Voa also.... MGS is just that huge.

I forget that sometimes, everyone wants a piece of the only true espionage pie out there.

*looks over at his PS3*

Youre ready for it, arent you?

[LiquidEagle]

:laugh: @ that quote -- that doesn't even qualify as a hint towards a 360 version. It's not going to 360, period.

[Diresu]

:laugh: @ that quote -- that doesn't even qualify as a hint towards a 360 version. It's not going to 360, period.

So true. To go even further...what do I trust...a quote taken WAY out of context...or something that came out of Kojima's mouth. Yea...I will trust 1up.

[Red_Eyes]

LOL. This is just too funny.

Kojima: "MGS4 will not be coming out for the 360."
Xbots: "Did you hear that? Kojima just confirmed that MGS4 will be coming out for the 360."

LOL.

[totobeni]

LOL. This is just too funny.

Kojima: "MGS4 will not be coming out for the 360."
Xbots: "Did you hear that? Kojima just confirmed that MGS4 will be coming out for the 360."

LOL.

:laugh: YMMD

[GTAce]

LOL. This is just too funny.

Kojima: "MGS4 will not be coming out for the 360."
Xbots: "Did you hear that? Kojima just confirmed that MGS4 will be coming out for the 360."

LOL.

QFT! :laugh:

[mario25]

Ryan Payton's comments in the kojima report about the 360 not influencing the development of MGS4 for the ps3 in any way were somehow mistaken as an official confirmation the game is coming to the 360.......who is making all the noise......dun dun dun....1UP!!!!

Damn!!...this is really tiresome......I don't even care if the game comes to the 360 anymore...the guy just confirmed that if the game goes to the 360 it will be some crappy port maybe a year later.......

[frosty]

G4 even reported that as confirmation of ps3 exclusivity.

[VG Aficionado]

G4 even reported that as confirmation of ps3 exclusivity.G4?! :shocked:

[makeitlookreal]

The reason MGS4 will be so awesome is because it will be exclusive.

[FantasyGhost]

The reason MGS4 will be so awesome is because it will be exclusive.That's not it. The reason why it will be so good is because Kojima wants to get the max out of it's system. If he was developing it for the X2 he would have done the same thing. He just wants to get the best out of the system he's developing for. Anything less wouldn't do his games any justice. It wouldn't do his fans any justice either.That's also why he was hammering on the fact of getting rumble back in there.

[Segitz]

That's not it. The reason why it will be so good is because Kojima wants to get the max out of it's system. If he was developing it for the X2 he would have done the same thing. He just wants to get the best out of the system he's developing for. Anything less wouldn't do his games any justice. It wouldn't do his fans any justice either.That's also why he was hammering on the fact of getting rumble back in there.

QFT

Kojima is a perfectionist. All his games are a monolithic system (sorry, theres a german proverb for it "aus einem Guss", but I find no better translations for it). Everything fits, were it belongs, nothing seems out of place.

This cant be done, if he needs to make sacrifices, or it will look REALLY worse.

I am not saying here, that a 360 MGS will look bad. If it is started from scratch, it will look equally good imho.

[solidsnakejej]

Here is a comment by Ryan from his blog which is similar to what they were talking about:

To ニックネーム未設定 (nickname undeclared),

Thanks for taking the time to write. I really mean that.

Now take a deep breath and read over what you just wrote.

>"Why not just come out and say that MGS4 is a Playstation 3 exclusive? You are only hurting your fanbase by not doing so. ...I cannot believe you guys would turn your backs on us like that."

You are not part of a group, my friend. There is no "us" versus "them." Just ignore what you read on the message boards. This isn't like a sporting event like the World Cup or the Superbowl -- there will never be a true "winner" in this industry.

Now if we cancelled MGS4 for PS3 and then released it for another console, then you've got something to be angry about. (One of the reasons I bought a Dreamcast was to play Half-Life: Blue Shift and Counterstrike, only to have them later be cancelled. I was crushed.)

So buddy, if you want to associate and take pride in something, let me suggest something with more significance than a piece of consumer electronics.

love,
rp
http://mp.i-revo.jp/user.php/kp-ryan/entry/95.html

The thing you have to remember is that MGS4 is coming out for the PS3 and PS3 is the lead platform.

[GTAce]

Now if we cancelled MGS4 for PS3 and then released it for another console,

Did you guys read that?
MGS4 is canned for PS3 and a 360 exclusive!!!!!!!11111111






:laugh:

[Segitz]

Did you guys read that?
MGS4 is canned for PS3 and a 360 exclusive!!!!!!!11111111






:laugh:

No, you need to dig deeper than that!

He said, there's no us versus them... That implicates that !! WE !! are a team... Though, PS3 MGS4 is canceled and now comes out on the !! Wii !!

[Haris]

That was lame.

[Z]

That was lame.

you wouldn't understand that...

[mario25]

OMG...the internet will take this as confirmation that the game is canceled on the ps3!!

[Z]

first it will appear on another forum or two. then a nobody site will make a post of it. the entry will pop on N4G and then it will be posted here again.

the irony of all this? it already happened. yes, here. O_o

[GTAce]

OMG...the internet will take this as confirmation that the game is canceled on the ps3!!

I hope so because i would have something awesome to laugh at!

[FantasyGhost]

Konami's Full-Year Sales Up Almost 7%; MGS4 May Launch by March (http://biz.gamedaily.com/industry/feature/?id=16238&ncid=AOLGAM000500000000022)

It was a solid year for Konami, with Winning Eleven sales reaching a new high and overall revenue climbing nearly 7 percent. And the good news for gamers is that buried within the financial report comes word that Konami would seem to be planning on a release of Metal Gear Solid 4 by next March.

Japanese publisher Konami, perhaps known best in the west for its Metal Gear Solid and Castlevania franchises, has reported its fiscal results for the year ended March 31, 2007. Total revenue was up 6.9 percent to 280.3 billion yen ($2.3 billion) and operating income was up significantly from 2.5 billion yen to 28.1 billion yen ($231.9 million). Net income, however, fell 29.5 percent to 16.2 billion yen ($133 million). The company explained that this resulted from a difficult comparison in which income was boosted the previous year by the sale of an affiliated company.

Konami has a number of business segments, but its digital entertainment business (which houses the core video game business) was responsible for the majority of sales. Sales within this segment were actually down 0.3 percent (essentially flat), but there were a few highlights. The Winning Eleven soccer series was cited for achieving sales of over 8 million units, representing the best performance in a year by the franchise to date.

Solid sales of dancing games in North America were also cited, as Dance Dance Revolution for PS2, Xbox and Xbox 360 crossed the one million unit mark. Other contributors Konami pointed to included "mainstays" such as Yu-Gi-Oh and Jikkyou Pawafuru Puroyaku and new titles such as Metal Gear Solid Portable Ops and Death Note Kira Game.

Konami's health and fitness segment was another major factor, bringing in the next largest chunk of revenue (about half of what the digital entertainment segment generated). Sales were up 8.9 percent as Konami opened 10 new facilities.

Interestingly, for the current fiscal year ending next March, Konami lists Metal Gear Solid 4 as one of the main drivers of revenue. The publisher has yet to announce an official release date for the hotly anticipated title, but this latest financial report would seem to indicate that gamers will finally get their hands on it before March 31, 2008.

For the year, Konami is anticipating net revenues to increase 5.3 percent to 295 billion yen ($2.4 billion), operating income to rise 17.3 percent to 33 billion yen ($272 million) and net income to rise almost 13 percent to 18.3 billion yen ($151 million).

[VG Aficionado]

http://www.gfdata.de/archiv05-2007-gamefront/mgs41.jpg

[cliffbo]

this will put a smile on your face:

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=CJQ2YG97

[VonGak]

All it means is that the game is to be released within Konami's fiscal year which we have been knowing all the time.

There's no news in this. If it had saud that Konami did expect MGS4 to be released in this fiscal year then it would be news.

[LiquidEagle]

I was going to post the article but it didn't seem to have anything worthwhile or new in it.

Interestingly, for the current fiscal year ending next March, Konami lists Metal Gear Solid 4 as one of the main drivers of revenue. The publisher has yet to announce an official release date for the hotly anticipated title, but this latest financial report would seem to indicate that gamers will finally get their hands on it before March 31, 2008

What's so "interesting" about this? They say it in the article like it's new news and we haven't been told it's coming out in 2007!

[Rockmond]

All this means that 2008 belongs to PS3.

All of PS3's true heavy hitters:GT5,FFXIII,MGS4 are all gonna be released that year.

As much as I want it to come out this fall/winter its probably best if they hold off until 2008.

[LiquidEagle]

All this means that 2008 belongs to PS3.

All of PS3's true heavy hitters:GT5,FFXIII,MGS4 are all gonna be released that year.

As much as I want it to come out this fall/winter its probably best if they hold off until 2008.

?? There's absolutely nothing to say it's coming out in 2008. It has about as much confirmation for 2008 as it does for 360 :laugh:

They should definitely make Holiday 2007 because Kojima's never delayed a game before, and it would continue the 3-year cycle. :-D

[Domination]

No, you need to dig deeper than that!

He said, there's no us versus them... That implicates that !! WE !! are a team... Though, PS3 MGS4 is canceled and now comes out on the !! Wii !!

I wanted to post this artical when it was first released, but didn't really feel that it was that important at the time. But Since it's relevant to the subject, I thought I'd post it.

Ryan Payton has said in a Kojima Production podcast that MGS 4 is being built exclusively on PS3 hardware to the specifications Hideo Kojima planned from the start.

"I can tell you honestly at this point, we have not changed the game in any form with the idea of 'oh, we got to do this on 360.' Put aside whether or not we're developing for 360 or not, the game is built on the PS3 hardware, as you guys have known for the past two years or so," he said as reported by 1up.

source (http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=164218)

[Z]

they are not us.

also, IF the game gets delayed till next year, knowing that it will at least be out by March is fantastic to know. a three month delay isn't really a delay, and the March period doesn't have a lot of competition. no, not that MGS4 will care, it is just that my wallet will. ;p

[cliffbo]

Put aside whether or not we're developing for 360 or not, the game is built on the PS3 hardware

it's coming to the 360...

[Diresu]

it's coming to the 360...

Reaching.

[Z]

oh, Domination, why did you have to go and post that again? now you'll only confuse them more...
poor bastards. they are too dumb to breath.

[woundingchaney]

Latest EGM in rumor mill by everyones favorite (Shane) suggests that a release of March 08 with a 360 port 6 months to 12 months later.

http://www.deeko.com/news/?p=1572

-- credit 22psi -- B3D




My main area of doubt is that this game has been held at PS3s hip since the announcement of either the console or the game. Letting this title slip to the opposition is going to viewed negatively regardless of anyones stance. I would be surprised if Sony didnt enter into an exclusive negotiation (beyond the suggested 6 months exclusivity). With so much of the development being based around an exact architecture one would question how well a 360 port would be translated even if this did happen (although its not as if the consumer base would overly care as long as they get the title).

Although this is business and in business profits talk there is not the us verse them mentality that is represented amongst MS and Sony or the current "next gen" gamer. If Konami makes the decision it will happen regardless and Konami is far more interested in monetary return than anything else.

[Sephiroth_VII]

Most of the developer interviews I've read state that it's relatively to port from PS3 to 360, but with a completely optimized game such as MGS4, I don't know...

[Rockmond]

?? There's absolutely nothing to say it's coming out in 2008. It has about as much confirmation for 2008 as it does for 360


I still think it would be better if it came out early 2008.

[VG Aficionado]

Funny how all of the recent multiplatform speculation comes from the 1crap / Ziff Davis group. First they triggered it, and now they're fueling it. These guys just won't stop until they see every PS3 exclusive going to 360.

[qzak]

They won't stop because they make money from it. You'd think Kojima's sucker punch would have stopped the worthless drivel, but...sigh

[totobeni]

well..for the record and truth's sake ...it's just DMC4 story all over again.., first rumors ..dev deny , more rumors...dev not talking ..more rumors this time from inside ppl ...and the KaaaBoom ..it's for X360..and sony fans say they don't care about it cuz it's so last gen ...

Sony can't handle MS at bidding race..MS can over bidding on every 3rd party games...they even bidding on game X360 don't need these days like Gundam Mousu...

and for "completely optimized" as what SephVII said , not it's just pure BS from the devs..Capcom said RE4 was impossible on PS2 and other DMC4 crap , X360 can handle MGS4 for sure ( specially the animations :) ) and they can make another method for the Octa-Cam (if it's a prob) just like what Capcom did with the Devil Bringer..

the only way for MGS4 to stay on PS3 is a huge deal or something like what nintendo did with capcom for RE series and secure the mean series for 3-4 years..

it's sad..and it will be huge hit for X360 and all other stuff..but..i don't care anymore..

[curryking1]

Don't even relate MGS4 to DMC4. That's just damn blasphemous.

[VonGak]

Please do not compare MGS4 with DMC4.

DMC was not presented by SONY on stage as one of their biggest exclusive titles.

And SONY isn't helping to finance a DMC4 movie.

Plus Kojima is not some simple 2'nd rang director who obeys every single order from the publisher (then we would have no Raiden).

I'm not debating the possibilities of a 360 version, just the comparison of the two titles.

[OmniCloud]

Please do not compare MGS4 with DMC4.

DMC was not presented by SONY on stage as one of their biggest exclusive titles.

And SONY isn't helping to finance a DMC4 movie.

Plus Kojima is not some simple 2'nd rang director who obeys every single order from the publisher (then we would have no Raiden).

I'm not debating the possibilities of a 360 version, just the comparison of the two titles.QFT...

Bad comparison, MGS is a much more important exclusive for PS3.

Besides, I think (for me anyway) It wasn't the fact that DMC4 went multi, it was just the BS that Capcom guys were spitting out to fans of the game. They kind of eluded to a PS3 exclusive, taking advantage of the hardware, blah blah, but I haven't heard any PS3 related news on the game since:huh:

Not saying PS3 isn't the base platform or whatever, but they just kind of had there PR go in the opposite direction that the company was taking.

Just blatantly saying, we want more people to experience DMC, it will be on more than just Ps3. But we know where DMC fans originated and we won't disappoint...How hard is that:huh:

Certainly wouldn't have been a petition IMO..

I mean seriously, how hard is it to please us? Throw in some extra content and BAAAAM, "we're taking full advantage of PS3's Blu-ray capacity."

Use the Sixaxis and BAAAMMM-"we're really utilizing the functionality of the PS3."

It's too bad big companies look at forums users last in fans to please:cry2:

[solidsnakejej]

and for "completely optimized" as what SephVII said , not it's just pure BS from the devs..Capcom said RE4 was impossible on PS2 and other DMC4 crap , X360 can handle MGS4 for sure ( specially the animations :) ) and they can make another method for the Octa-Cam (if it's a prob) just like what Capcom did with the Devil Bringer..



All MGSs have been completely optimized for the playstation platform, look at MGS2 for the xbox it had several framerate issues while the PS2 version stayed at 60 fps. MGS4 has yet to be completely optimized yet, that happens in the last few months of the development cycle. The animation process was only beginning when they showed the TGS trailer. I'm not doubting this game could go on the 360 but there will be some problems with porting it. I believe that it would take a few dvds to put it on because of what Hideo and Ryan have said in some interviews and on the KP report.

[Diresu]

Don't even relate MGS4 to DMC4. That's just damn blasphemous.

So damn true. Kojima isn't a man that goes back on his word. It is built for PS3 and as far as he is concerned, its only on PS3 (last mention of it). Is it possible that it will be on 360 6-12 months later? Sure. Personally 12 more likely then 6 BUT until Kojima says its going to 360 all this bs speculation and adding fuel to the fire after repeated denial BY Kojima himself....can go to hell.

Really getting tired of this shit. Noone is making a big deal of Dead Rising 2, Enchanted Arms, Saint's Row etc etc going to ps3 but if its ps3 to 360 the damn rumors and "end of the world" crap just won't die. I guess It makes sense though, when the opposition has all the games that matter, you want them on your platform.

[totobeni]

Please do not compare MGS4 with DMC4.

DMC was not presented by SONY on stage as one of their biggest exclusive titles.

And SONY isn't helping to finance a DMC4 movie.

Plus Kojima is not some simple 2'nd rang director who obeys every single order from the publisher (then we would have no Raiden).

I'm not debating the possibilities of a 360 version, just the comparison of the two titles.

huh ? nope..it was...remember E3 2005 ? Tekken , DMC and MGS shows as PS3 exclusives .

.the dante in snow crap..and jin cgi plus MGS snakeXraiden video..




Plus Kojima is not some simple 2'nd rang director who obeys every single order from the publisher (then we would have no Raiden).

Shinji Mikami is not 2'nd rang director that for sure.. and he "hate" sony but that don't mean anything..RE4 was ported on PS2 ...Tomonobu Itagaki also kinda hate PSs system..and Ninja Gaiden is on PS3 now..,and do you honestly believe in dev's loyalty ? Factor-5 , level-5 and Silicon knight say hi




And SONY isn't helping to finance a DMC4 movie.


that just don't mean anything...Resident Evil movies ( 3 of them not one ) are making/financed by "Screen Gems" ( owned by Sony Pictures ) but that don't mean that RE games is sony's exclusives..

so even if Sony Picturs helping to make MGS movie..it's as same as when they completely made RE movies..


Kojima isn't a man that goes back on his word
well there is few true men these days..but when thing happened , kojima will Tomonobu Itagaki and Mikami did before him and will give them the green light for port to other system..

i can trust Kojima but i can't trust and i dont trust VG industry and MS money

[Red_Eyes]

So many Xbots here living in a dream world where MGS4 is on the 360. Time to wake up Xbots.

[Diresu]

huh ? nope..it was...remember E3 2005 ? Tekken , DMC and MGS shows as PS3 exclusives .

.the dante in snow crap..and jin cgi plus MGS snakeXraiden video..

Nothing like "This is the Cell. The Key to winning the next generation war"

Shinji Mikami is not 2'nd rang director that for sure.. and he "hate" sony but that don't mean anything..RE4 was ported on PS2 ...Tomonobu Itagaki also kinda hate PSs system..and Ninja Gaiden is on PS3 now..,and do you honestly believe in dev's loyalty ? Factor-5 , level-5 and Silicon knight say hi

Shinji Mikami isn't working on DMC4. He is probablly working on RE5 and/or new game by Seed. Itagaki doesn't hate the ps systems. He simply tends to go for the systems with power hence going to xbox over ps2.

[LiquidEagle]

toto, please don't come into this thread any more. I'd rather you stay out, since you love to spout about what you don't know, as if you know more than us. MGS4 and Kojima is something I can especially guarantee you don't know shit about compared to the lot of us here, and it's incredibly annoying when you come into this thread (or any thread for that matter) and run your mouth like you've got it all figured out.

[VonGak]

huh ? nope..it was...remember E3 2005 ? Tekken , DMC and MGS shows as PS3 exclusives .

.the dante in snow crap..and jin cgi plus MGS snakeXraiden video..



No I'm talking about Ken Kuteragi and Hideo Kojima sharing stage, not the end of E3 where Showed a wide variety of upcoming PS3 titles which were never hailed to be exclusive.


Shinji Mikami is not 2'nd rang director that for sure.. and he "hate" sony but that don't mean anything..RE4 was ported on PS2 ...Tomonobu Itagaki also kinda hate PSs system..and Ninja Gaiden is on PS3 now..,and do you honestly believe in dev's loyalty ? Factor-5 , level-5 and Silicon knight say hi


Sorry but you aren't really saying anything here.
And no matter how big Shinji Mikami may seem to you he's not nearly as respected as Kojima or enjoy the same level of anonymity.

When Konami strengthened its control over its studios Kojima's studio went in the opposite direction and had added "Productions" to its name.

Not forgetting that Kojima is director and executive producer.


that just don't mean anything...Resident Evil movies ( 3 of them not one ) are making/financed by "Screen Gems" ( owned by Sony Pictures ) but that don't mean that RE games is sony's exclusives..

so even if Sony Picturs helping to make MGS movie..it's as same as when they completely made RE movies..

Big difference, SONY bough those movie rights for 14mill USD.

I have not heard anything about Konami selling the movie rights for MGS and to my knowledge it's more a joint venture. :)

[totobeni]

Nothing like "This is the Cell. The Key to winning the next generation war".


i know Cell is da big thing and all...but c'mon ..MGS4 is not the the example of Cell's power .


Shinji Mikami isn't working on DMC4. He is probablly working on RE5 and/or new game by Seed. Itagaki doesn't hate the ps systems. He simply tends to go for the systems with power hence going to xbox over ps2.

i was talking about RE4 ..Mikami promise nintendo fans that he won't let it on any other system...and he is not 2nd grade man in capcom for sure..

VonGak say since Kojima is so important and big then his words is 100% true , but Mikami was like the God of Capcom ..and that was just pointless for him to keep RE on GCN.

Kojima don't make MGS4 from his Pocket money but from Konami's money and Konmai is the one who own MGS IP not Kojima or Kojima production , so if they (konami) want MGS6 to be on N-gage then Kojima will make it on N-gage..

and for Itagaki all his Interviews during PS2 era is just like some fanboy hates on his rich friend new console ...maybe PS2 was hard on him..but i never read anything positive from him..

[LaLiLuLeLo]

Here we go with another 4 pages of debating MGS4's console exclusivity, all because of an ambiguously written article.

[LiquidEagle]

VonGak, don't forget that before he got his own studio, Kojima was VP of KCEJ West and has always held a large say in Konami ever since MGS2 started production.

LaLiLuLeLo: Don't blame us man! Certain people refuse to give up their jackassery and it's goddamn annoying.

[VonGak]

VonGak, don't forget that before he got his own studio, Kojima was VP of KCEJ West and has always held a large say in Konami ever since MGS2 started production.

Indeed, heck he even got quite populare at Konami with his Snatchers and Policenauts (still haven't played the latter :().

[LaLiLuLeLo]

Don't think I won't lock the MGS4 thread. Keep it up and see what happens.

You know who you are.

[cliffbo]

this will put a smile on your face:

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=CJQ2YG97

it's coming to the 360...

wow LOLOLOL first i try to put a smile on your faces and then all hell breaks loose because of one off the cuff remark... i was playing! :)

[VG Aficionado]

i know Cell is da big thing and all...but c'mon ..MGS4 is not the the example of Cell's power .You last saw MGS4 8 months ago, I'm not sure how can you state something like that when you have no idea how it will be in the end. Besides, in the latest interview with Kojima, he mentioned that he wanted to challenge the Cell processor with the game features.

Seriously people, if it wasn't for the 1crap stuff, this wouldn't be happening.

[Diresu]

Indeed, heck he even got quite populare at Konami with his Snatchers and Policenauts (still haven't played the latter :().

Yep and the oint is...MGS Is HIS game and property of Kojima Productions. he solely decides where it goes, and anything else to do with it. Until Kojima says its going to 360...its bs. And according to his latest inteview...he has no intention, plan, wish or anything along those lines to make a multiplatform game, or to make MGS4 on any other system.

[cliffbo]

who cares... chillllll... relax... float on the boat of love and remember gamers day... yeeee, man.... cool.... ZZZZZZZZZZZZ.... er.... what did i just type?

[totobeni]

You last saw MGS4 8 months ago, I'm not sure how can you state something like that when you have no idea how it will be in the end. Besides, in the latest interview with Kojima, he mentioned that he wanted to challenge the Cell processor with the game features.

Seriously people, if it wasn't for the 1crap stuff, this wouldn't be happening.

I know that..i just talking about what I saw till now.....but I still need to see more stuff before I know if MGS4 is ture challenge for Cell processor or not, games can change in few months ..like Gears or Too Human ...the delay rumor maybe mean Kojima want to add more greatness to MGS4 ..he now has PSEdge tool ..i hope we see something great...

if it wasn't for the 1crap stuff, this wouldn't be happening

cuz they are da famous 1crap ? ...didn't Shane himself is the one who tell us before that there is zero possibilities for DMC4 to go multi ? why i should believe him here ?

the thing here this rumor just can't go away...one time from 1up , next from CVG the other one from IGN...it's like a bad weekley updates or something..or maybe a new VG sites tradition

B]he has no intention, plan, wish or anything along those lines to make a multiplatform game, or to make MGS4 on any other system[/B].

amen to that ichigo..

...i don't want my brother to play MGS4 on 16 DVDs..he already have back problems he can't inserts and ejects discs all the time....one blu-ray disc to rule them all Kojima-san..



LaLiLuLeLo: Don't blame us man! Certain people refuse to give up their jackassery and it's goddamn annoying.

WTH is that ? ..oh wait..

Don't think I won't lock the MGS4 thread. Keep it up and see what happens.

You know who you are.

WTH ? is this a hitlerXsaddam forum or something ?

I didn't know it is forbidden to discuss games stuff here on a games forums..there is a Policy on talking about possibilities and rumors..i didnt read that on the rules page also !!

..and that was one so uncool warnning ..

you know what..just fucking ban me man..i just don't need these lame hints and this cop land bullying crap ,please ban it really wont hurt me ....anyway this is my fucking last post in this whole great forum..

enjoy LaLi

[Domination]

well..for the record and truth's sake ...it's just DMC4 story all over again.., first rumors ..dev deny , more rumors...dev not talking ..more rumors this time from inside ppl ...and the KaaaBoom ..it's for X360..and sony fans say they don't care about it cuz it's so last gen ...

Sony can't handle MS at bidding race..MS can over bidding on every 3rd party games...they even bidding on game X360 don't need these days like Gundam Mousu...

and for "completely optimized" as what SephVII said , not it's just pure BS from the devs..Capcom said RE4 was impossible on PS2 and other DMC4 crap , X360 can handle MGS4 for sure ( specially the animations :) ) and they can make another method for the Octa-Cam (if it's a prob) just like what Capcom did with the Devil Bringer..

the only way for MGS4 to stay on PS3 is a huge deal or something like what nintendo did with capcom for RE series and secure the mean series for 3-4 years..

it's sad..and it will be huge hit for X360 and all other stuff..but..i don't care anymore..

I will say this and only this: despite the Nintendo DS's hardware and software advantage over the PSP for just about every competitive territory, the Metal Gear series has of yet to be ported to that platform regardless of others like Capcom or Team Ninja jumping aboard. It's not always about the userbase; sometimes the technology in that platform matters more. Now I'm not entirely sure yet, but from the like of the many rejections up to this point, I'm thinking this may be one of those times.

[curryking1]

You know who you are.

My name is curryking. XD

[Shadow Voa]

who cares... chillllll... relax... float on the boat of love and remember gamers day... yeeee, man.... cool.... ZZZZZZZZZZZZ.... er.... what did i just type?

More like who cares about Gamers day lets move forward... E3 baby!! M G S 4 love is coming and I cant wait to see this game since we last had a gander at it. Still... I'll be sad if it get delayed to Mar 08 like Im hearing. :(

[Freeman_JI]

MGS4 makes perfect financial sense on the X360 but...

Hideo has his loyalties and no he most certainly does not want MGS4 on 360 and on many occasions has stated this FACT.

Of course Konami have reportedly poured in a lot of cash into the project god knows how many copies it will have to sell to turn a proft. Hideo is the director he makes MGS4 what it is. Konami will dictate that what platforms the game appears on (IMO PS3, 360 and PC)

Do I think MGS4 will appear on 360 yes I do for a few dam good reasons.
(1) User base and attach rate: 360 owners have bought alot of quality games which have made the million sellers club. Konami know that they have a quality game on their hands that they know could be a million seller on the 360 FACT.

(2) The release was pushed back from what Kojima said development was proceeding smoothly?!? so why the release date push development hell or Konami have 360 development kits and probably more than a few guys testing and trying to get MGS4 up and running on the 360

(3) The MGS franchise is popular in the States... the 360 is popular in the states more so than the PS3... put 2 and 2 together.

(4) CAPCOM, Namco-Bandi, From Software, Sega, are putting their weight behind the 360 with traditional Playstation Only Titles. Times are changing that massive blockbuster game budget means that its harder to recoup your development losses, Konami already gives the xbox brand some love with its other big one ProEvolution so...

(5) Konami have refused to let the MGS4 rumors die, they are the publisher all this ambiguity is just like Assassins Creed and Devil May Cry 4, I mean common.


amen to that ichigo..
...i don't want my brother to play MGS4 on 16 DVDs..he already have back problems he can't inserts and ejects discs all the time....one blu-ray disc to rule them all Kojima-san..

144 gigs nice, that would be 3 BluRay discs there bro.
I by no means know how large MGS4 has become but 4 DVD's with MS tools or 36 GB's, that or become a HDD only game like Final Fantasy 11 and Chapionship manager with Installed data on the HDD.

I'm not here to talk about the technical merits just yet

[Diresu]

MGS4 makes perfect financial sense on the X360 but...

For now Irrelevant

Of course Konami have reportedly poured in a lot of cash into the project god knows how many copies it will have to sell to turn a proft. Hideo is the director he makes MGS4 what it is. Konami will dictate that what platforms the game appears on (IMO PS3, 360 and PC)

This is incorrect. Kojima Production does.

Do I think MGS4 will appear on 360 yes I do for a few dam good reasons.
(1) User base and attach rate: 360 owners have bought alot of quality games which have made the million sellers club. Konami know that they have a quality game on their hands that they know could be a million seller on the 360 FACT.

Not a fact at all. MGS sold poorely on the xbox platform.

(2) The release was pushed back from what Kojima said development was proceeding smoothly?!? so why the release date push development hell or Konami have 360 development kits and probably more than a few guys testing and trying to get MGS4 up and running on the 360

They never said it won't be out this year. Also, its a first game on the ps3 for kojima productions so delays are understandable. ALso, why the hell would they delay the ps3 game to make the 360 one work?

(3) The MGS franchise is popular in the States... the 360 is popular in the states more so than the PS3... put 2 and 2 together.

Popular in the states, on a sony system. Can't stress this enough.

(4) CAPCOM, Namco-Bandi, From Software, Sega, are putting their weight behind

Kojima isn't a multi-platform whoring director.

(5) Konami have refused to let the MGS4 rumors die, they are the publisher all this ambiguity is just like Assassins Creed and Devil May Cry 4, I mean common.

Kojima killed it, and flat out denied it. He can't silence the internet. He said it as clearly as possible.

[LaLiLuLeLo]

WTH ? is this a hitlerXsaddam forum or something ?

I didn't know it is forbidden to discuss games stuff here on a games forums..there is a Policy on talking about possibilities and rumors..i didnt read that on the rules page also !!

..and that was one so uncool warnning ..

you know what..just fucking ban me man..i just don't need these lame hints and this cop land bullying crap ,please ban it really wont hurt me ....anyway this is my fucking last post in this whole great forum..

enjoy LaLi

Honestly dude, we've beaten this MGS4 on 360 shit into the ground. Tell me we haven't. I'll guarantee you 99% of the frequent posters here are phed up with it. And all it does is produce several pages of repeated, restated, and reiterated shit as to why the game is or isn't going cross platform. There's no evidence saying it is, plenty directly coming from Kojima's mouth that it isn't. The pro-side and the neg-side leverage the same arguments every goddamn time. It's getting us no where. It's sad that it's gonna take the game to finally come out, and finally run its course, before people shut the hell up. I for one am sick of it.

you haven't done anything ban worthy, but you do have a knack for trying people's patience.

[LiquidEagle]

You're my hero, Kevin. Can I call you Kevin? <3 :-p

[LaLiLuLeLo]

call me anything you want. Just don't call me late for dinner. I'm almost to the point where I wish konami would say it's going to 360 so everyone would shut their goddamn mouth.

[LiquidEagle]

call me anything you want. Just don't call me late for dinner. I'm almost to the point where I wish konami would say it's going to 360 so everyone would shut their goddamn mouth.

You mean Kojima -- he makes the decisions on MGS, remember? :laugh:

Sorry, that was uncalled for but I had to ;)

[LaLiLuLeLo]

SHUT UP. I'LL BAN YOU. I'LL LOCK EVERY THREAD!!!! GRAAAAAAAAAaaaahahhhhhh!!!

I....I.....I'M losing myseellllff........
http://mgsplanet.online.fr/images/tts/tts19.jpg

[LiquidEagle]

:lol: classic

[mario25]

Wouldn't it be funny if kojima goes: "STFU internet....I had it with you...I'm going to port the god damn game to the 360 only for you to STFU"

[Haris]

La Le is Kevin?


What else haven't you told me?:twitch:

[LaLiLuLeLo]

Well, if by Kevin you mean, the administrator named kevin, then no. but my name for reals, is kevin. huzzah!

[curryking1]

Why is this thread rated 4 out of 5?!?! What the **** is that?!?! Argghh!!! What kind of a sick and twisted world is this!?!?!

[Red_Eyes]

MGS4 does not make financial sense on the 360. You hear all these xbots saying it'll be coming to the 360. But when it comes, will they buy it? Nope. All they want is the PS3 to lose the exclusivity. They ain't going to buy it. They just want to brag about the PS3 losing another exclusive. And that is the reason why Kojima will not betray the PS3. And you know it's damn true. Anyone says otherwise is just a liar.

[LiquidEagle]

MGS4 does not make financial sense on the 360. You hear all these xbots saying it'll be coming to the 360. But when it comes, will they buy it? Nope. All they want is the PS3 to lose the exclusivity. They ain't going to buy it. They just want to brag about the PS3 losing another exclusive. And that is the reason why Kojima will not betray the PS3. And you know it's damn true. Anyone says otherwise is just a liar.

While I do believe the desire to see 360 is more of the morbid sense to see the PS3 lose its big exclusive, I'm not sure if I would go as far as to say the 360 audience wouldn't buy it, but I think it's a fair guess that they won't and I wouldn't disagree with it :-p

[cliffbo]

i can state categorically, without fear of contradiction that MGS not be coming to the 360... yet

[qzak]

According to PSM

“New PSM says rumble is going to be announced at E-3 and set for a November 13th release date. No big deal, not to me.. Anyways, they then go on to say that Kojima had asked time from Sony to implement it into MGS4, along with Tilt… to appease both sides of the fences.


Just a rumor...nothing to get excited about but a Nov. release would be very cool.


Edit: Also, the part that is not a rumor is that they have stated that earnings from this fiscal year will include substantial MGS4 revenue. People seem to have interpreted this to mean that the game is coming out in March, right before the end of the fiscal year. But if there are substantial earnings to be made from it, it has to be out more than a few days.


http://www.ps3vault.com/metal-gear-solid-4-launch-date-confirmed-1519

and orig. source:

http://boards.gamefaqs.com/gfaqs/genmessage.php?board=927750&topic=35545716

[solidsnakejej]

It would be awesome if they would pack a rumble controller with MGS4. The thing about the fiscal year, the same could be said about Halo 3.

[Segitz]

It could also mean, it will be released on 1.1.08... Still 4th quarter...

People always expect the worst (especially if it is PS3 related and interpreted by non PS3 guys)

[curryking1]

MGS4 does not make financial sense on the 360. You hear all these xbots saying it'll be coming to the 360. But when it comes, will they buy it? Nope. All they want is the PS3 to lose the exclusivity. They ain't going to buy it. They just want to brag about the PS3 losing another exclusive. And that is the reason why Kojima will not betray the PS3. And you know it's damn true. Anyone says otherwise is just a liar.

As aggressive as this response is.. which I don't particularly agree with lol...

I think the main idea is true anyways. Is there a market for MGS on the Xbox? Seriously,the only time this game is a great title is when there is another rumour of multiplat coming. All other days it's 'overrated trash.'

[Rockmond]

As aggressive as this response is.. which I don't particularly agree with lol...

I think the main idea is true anyways. Is there a market for MGS on the Xbox? Seriously,the only time this game is a great title is when there is another rumour of multiplat coming. All other days it's 'overrated trash.

QFT

[mario25]

While I do believe the desire to see 360 is more of the morbid sense to see the PS3 lose its big exclusive, I'm not sure if I would go as far as to say the 360 audience wouldn't buy it, but I think it's a fair guess that they won't and I wouldn't disagree with it :-p

I really feel that IF MGS4 hits the x360 it's going to bomb sales wise and that the huge anticipation from the x360 fans it's just for bragging that the 360 stole another exclusive.

[LiquidEagle]

Thanks for that post qzak... interesting indeed. November 13th would also be a great day for MGS4 to come out... historically (MGS2) speaking... :-D

[FantasyGhost]

Coming from xbox.com (http://forums.xbox.com/12756627/ShowPost.aspx)
Although i don't read anything about this on the actual mag forums or news site: www.superplay.se
From the Swedish gamermagazine Super Play.
The same magazine that was first in the world with Halo 3-footage and the confirmation of VF5 for 360.

"At the end of 2007, one of the biggest titles to be released for any of the current generation consoles is Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots. As the follow up to the blockbuster smash hit PS2 title Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater, it will problably sell extremely well and be played by many PS3 fans. However, sole owners of Wii and Xbox 360 would have to do without it. Fortunately, Konami isn´t completely blind to the fact that more gamers deserve to play this epic title, and it is now confirmed that Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots for the Xbox 360 will launch a year later in November 2008. It will come with new content additions including VR missions and other bonus gameplay like Snake Tales, which lets you go on more objective-based missions -- some quite lengthy. So, there's no question that Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots for the Xbox 360 comes packed with more content than the original PS3-version.
Seemingly, the Xbox 360 Metal Gear would have been the one to wait for, but Konami respond by releasing the slightly beefed up Metal Gear Solid 4 for PS3 as well."

[Diresu]

If this is true I am glad its a year later. Though I do hope there is no significant additional content.

[solidsnakejej]

I doubt that based on the fact that it says it's a special edition. They would never announce a special edition before a game is release. Plus Ryan said even if they were working on it they wouldn't announce it till after the PS3 release. and there is no direct link to the story.

[GTAce]

Im pretty sure its another BS "news".
Lets wait soon there will be another statement from Kojima that MGS4 will not come on 360.

[curryking1]

If it's true... I'm just not happy then. Maybe a better way to put it is I would be less happy actually.

[Diresu]

Ok it seems its been proven fake on PS3Forums.com

[curryking1]

Damn straight XD

[Diresu]

Damn straight XD

Goose Frabba Curry, Goose Frabba. Personally if its a year later id have no problem with it because by then anyone wanting to play it will have played it.

[curryking1]

No! Not ok! lol! :P

[VideoGame mania]

This is the game that Sony must keep exclusives no matter what is the price.
PS3 poll agrees with me, I think MGS4 will be the game of generation.
And if Sony loses it, it's game over. No game has received so much attention, no game can sell PS3s like MGS4.

[Rockmond]

So, there's no question that Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots for the Xbox 360 comes packed with more content than the original PS3-version.

Get the fuck outta here with this crap.

[OmniCloud]

If it's true... I'm just not happy then. Maybe a better way to put it is I would be less happy actually.The seems to imply that it would be exclusive to X360...But i seriously doubt any type of port will not go to PS3 as well....A year later is a long time!!! lol...like seriously, everyone who's a fan will get the freakin game. Same thing with VF5...

This is good news if it's true. X360 fans can shut up and wait for there "extra content" MGS4. PS3 owners know the first and base platform for Metal Gears is Sony's PS3, which means Cell, Sixaxis, PSN, Home etc, will all get taken advantage of-EVERYONE'S HAPPY:laugh:

Still just a rumor tho..

[GTAce]

I would find it strange. Even if it would come to 360 it would be a downgraded version without extra content.
Kojima said he wants the 50GB blu-ray asap for the developement so how could they make it on a DVD-9?

[curryking1]

^^^^That's the craziest thing I've ever heard. MGS4 is huge and we all know it, but it's not like there isn't other huge stuff coming to the PS3, even just coming from Sony themselves. It wouldn't mean 'Fission Mailed' (lol! for you MGS fans :)) if it just went over, even launched at the same time on other systems.

Anyways.... lol, I even went to check the PS3 thread on PS3forums and I see Diresu has posted there lol that was funny :)

EVERYONE'S HAPPY:laugh:

Ahh! No one understands me... I still won't be completely satisfied lol! :P

[GTAce]

I understand you curry, i feel the same way. 8)

[Diresu]

Furthermore:

From http://www.superplay.se/

I can read Swedish..I do not see anything about MGS for 360..


user named xbox360whatajoke

P.S Curry is going emo on us! Quick call for an intervention!

[curryking1]

Ahh! Mind exploding! It can only be on 3! The image says it all! Emo... taking over... Ahhh!

*recombs hair, flips up collar, unbuttons top buttons on shirt, walks around stupidly, gives 'attitude'*

http://www.lakeshoredrivein.com/images/spiderman3.jpg

[GTAce]

:lol:

[OmniCloud]

lol...I don't really care either way..since I like most people will play MGS4 on PS3 regardless of rumors or possible ports...

Seriously we need some new news here, this thread is a speculation nightmare!!

[Diresu]

Ahh! Mind exploding! It can only be on 3! The image says it all! Emo... taking over... Ahhh!

*recombs hair, flips up collar, unbuttons top buttons on shirt, walks around stupidly, gives 'attitude'*

http://www.lakeshoredrivein.com/images/spiderman3.jpg

Oh noes...SymbiotCurry! *runs around in circles panicking.*

[mario25]

I think this will come true at the end. the "substistance" version a year later released on both ps3 and 360, 360 version bombs like MGS2 because fans are busy playing GoW 2 and halo 3, hideo makes MGS5 exclusive to the PS3.

It's the same thing all over again.

[GTAce]

Subsistance didnt came to Xbox. 8)
MGS2 Substance yeah but like you said it was a flop.

[LaLiLuLeLo]

it's like people believe if they say it enough it'll magically happen.

[Diresu]

it's like people believe if they say it enough it'll magically happen.

You gotta believe ! *insert ET flashback here*

[solidsnakejej]

it's like people believe if they say it enough it'll magically happen.

Isn't that what we are doing for ZOE3?

[OmniCloud]

Isn't that what we are doing for ZOE3?sry to butt, but who's we? I was bummed out after that rumor was proved bogus and haven't been expected anything ZoE3 related since:huh:

[Sephiroth_VII]

Furthermore:



user named xbox360whatajoke

P.S Curry is going emo on us! Quick call for an intervention!

I can read Swedish, too, and there's nothing on that site even remotely connected to MGS4.

And by the way, the way I understand it, Kojima Productions decide whether or not to release MGS4 for the 360, not Konami.

[solidsnakejej]

sry to butt, but who's we? I was bummed out after that rumor was proved bogus and haven't been expected anything ZoE3 related since:huh:

Well Kojima said that if people asked him enough to do ZOE3 he will do it, since many interviewers have ask if ZOE3 is being worked on.

[OmniCloud]

Well, didn't know that!! Maybe I should start writing fan letters eh?

[Sephiroth_VII]

Yeah, there's a lot of evidence pointing towards an eventual ZOE3 in the future, while MGS4 for the 360 just doesn't sound very likely, considering that Kojima always makes his games with one console in mind.

If you look back on the only MGS game ever released for the Xbox, substance, you can see that even though Xbox was far superior to the PS2, they weren't able to add anything to the game besides reflecting light in the eyeballs.
That's because of the enormous architectural difference between PS2 and Xbox, and this generation, it's even worse.

[LiquidEagle]

Fan letters? We need to send more REQUESTS. :-p

LOL @ that stupid ass rumor too by the way. Worst rumor ever.

[Sephiroth_VII]

Haha, this thread is being updated almost as fast as the E3 threads usually are!

[mario25]

Subsistance didnt came to Xbox. 8)
MGS2 Substance yeah but like you said it was a flop.

I was referring to the "substistance-substance" or whatever is going to be called version, not specifically subsistance, I know it wasn't developed for the xbox.

[VG Aficionado]

Wow, that was one pathetic piece of BS. They just looked at Substance's release date and extras (Snake Tales... did they just confirm Raiden will be the main character again? ;)) and thought "Yeah, MGS4 for 360 will be just like that Xbox flop, let's create a rumour!"

[yoshaw]

Fan letters? We need to send more REQUESTS. :-p

LOL @ that stupid ass rumor too by the way. Worst rumor ever.

yea that was a major letdown. I believe it was a small scan outta PSM that brought up the hope in all of us. Not anymore. *Puts on Curry'sEmo mask to show level of upset*

[Red_Eyes]

I guess since the 360 has no good games, all that the Xbots ever do now a day is talk about an exclusive PS3 game called MGS4.

[Grovestreet]

I guess since the 360 has no good games, all that the Xbots ever do now a day is talk about an exclusive PS3 game called MGS4.

Lol tell me your joking...

[GTAce]

:lol: I knew that was coming.

[yoshaw]

Lol tell me your joking...

Actually Grove, I too , atm, don't find anything on Xbox360 to date, be called a good game! So I don't think you should be that surprised at the notion of someone else saying such a thing. There are many who don't find anything viable on PS3 yet. It works both ways dude.









:guns:

[Diresu]

Actually Grove, I too , atm, don't find anything on Xbox360 to date, be called a good game! So I don't think you should be that surprised at the notion of someone else saying such a thing. There are many who don't find anything viable on PS3 yet. It works both ways dude.


:guns:

I am in the same boat...I am waiting for Crackdown but thats it. Last game I played on the 360 was GEoW and that got real old really fast.

[Z]

Lol tell me your joking...

depends on each individual really. for me, there are only two games on X2 that I want; GRAW2 and Gears of War. since the first is coming to PS3, that leaves the latter- which is on my 'get it IF you end up getting an X2 years latter' list. some people see X2 as the 'only' next gen choice, while others completely brush it off.

I also tell people who aren't into PS3 to wait till the end of 08 to see if it has the games they want by then. on the other hand, I have a launch system and I am loving it from day one. so it really is a case by case situation. :)


PS. just remembered C7C3. damn! X2 suddenly is the best RTS console ever made! shit I needs me some RTS. I might just have to get it on PC...

[section]

For each their own. I think this thread could be a bit better without it derailing into another debate about who's daddy is the strongest in the neighbourhood :)

[Z]

I forgot to add what I was going to say in my last post:
I wanted to say that until real evidence or announcement are made regarding MGS4 going anywhere else, it shouldn't be brought up over and over and over. that is because we keep going in circles saying the same thing every time the topic gets brought up. it is becoming redundant.

[NeoPlayStation]

Stolen from PS3Forums:

Metal Gear creator Hideo Kojima simultaneously appeases Sony's fanboys and disappoints Microsoft's by stating that MGS4 will remain PS3-exclusive.

Source (http://www.gametrailers.com/viewnews.php?id=4375)

http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/5500/xbotkickxv4.gif

[curryking1]

That's from Apr 5th. You have to get Kojima to say it again, twice now to debunk our two new bimonthly rumours, one from late Apr, and the other that Liquid made and I sent to 1up.

[KRA]

how mgs4 would make it to 360 with additional content ?!
on dvd :) ?
com'on heheh

[NeoPlayStation]

That's from Apr 5th. You have to get Kojima to say it again, twice now to debunk our two new bimonthly rumours, one from late Apr, and the other that Liquid made and I sent to 1up.

Hum. My bad. I can't access gametrailers from my job. So I can't see the entire article. Sorry, guys.

[VG Aficionado]

That's from Apr 5th. You have to get Kojima to say it again, twice now to debunk our two new bimonthly rumours, one from late Apr, and the other that Liquid made and I sent to 1up.:laugh:

Seriously, it would be nice that we had some actual news to talk about, because this thread has been more about multiplatform rumours than about anything else for a long time already, and it's not like there's evidence that it's not going to be exclusive. It reminds me of when there were nearly no news about PS3 last year following E3 and until TGS, and since there was nothing to talk about, it was all doom and gloom because optimistic guesses aren't nearly as entertaining.

[yoshaw]

We need that picture in here AGAIN.

Yes, that pic with 10's of DVD9's and MGS4 logo. I swear that was a blast to look at, again please. :)

[solidsnakejej]

Here you go:
http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h276/Arsid/mgs4360.jpg

[KRA]

^^hehe it's just so funny :)

[solidsnakejej]

and just for fun
http://www.box.net/shared/static/jh7exa5ofb.jpg

[yoshaw]

Here you go:
http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h276/Arsid/mgs4360.jpg



LMAO!!! I can never get tired of that I swear. Brilliant work of photoshop skills!!

[GTAce]

and just for fun
http://www.box.net/shared/static/jh7exa5ofb.jpg

:laugh: Awesome!

[LiquidEagle]

That's from Apr 5th. You have to get Kojima to say it again, twice now to debunk our two new bimonthly rumours, one from late Apr, and the other that Liquid made and I sent to 1up.

I still need to kill you... :laugh:


Okay fine, MGS4 discussion... GO!

Vamp will be returning, so where do you think he'll stand in this whole thing? He obviously doesn't want the Patriots to succeed, but Raiden & Otacon would clearly have trust issues with the guy... Where can a guy like that fit in? You think he'll just be like a random antagonist hindering your way but not helping the bad guys?

[VG Aficionado]

Vamp will be returning, so where do you think he'll stand in this whole thing? He obviously doesn't want the Patriots to succeed, but Raiden & Otacon would clearly have trust issues with the guy... Where can a guy like that fit in? You think he'll just be like a random antagonist hindering your way but not helping the bad guys?"People's values change over time."

No matter how much we think about it, Vamp is probably going to be a multidimensional character and he'll end up surprising us again :laugh:

[Carlos]

Someone remind me what happened to Vamp in MGS2? I thought he died? I thought we killed him in our final battle with him, just before we rescued Emma.

[julps31]

Here you go:
http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h276/Arsid/mgs4360.jpgQFT.

[Diresu]

Someone remind me what happened to Vamp in MGS2? I thought he died? I thought we killed him in our final battle with him, just before we rescued Emma.

No, remember he shows up when Emma is crossing the bridge and you have to snipe him.

[Carlos]

No, remember he shows up when Emma is crossing the bridge and you have to snipe him.
I almost forgot about that. Yeah, he escaped when he's had enough. I don't understand how Snake didn't get him, tho. One of the plot holes, I tell ya.

[LiquidEagle]

I almost forgot about that. Yeah, he escaped when he's had enough. I don't understand how Snake didn't get him, tho. One of the plot holes, I tell ya.

Vamp is also there watching Snake & Raiden talk outside Federal Hall too... it was really weird because there's just a sprite of Vamp there watching them...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v208/LiquidEagle/Camera002.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v208/LiquidEagle/Camera004.jpg

[Carlos]

I kinda didn't understand that when I saw the same scene in the first screenshot you took.

[Sephiroth_VII]

I think it's even been confirmed by Kojima that it is Vamp in the background. Am I wrong?

[Diresu]

I think it's even been confirmed by Kojima that it is Vamp in the background. Am I wrong?

It looks exactly like Vamp. I don't doubt it.

[Haris]

That's crazy I never noticed that before

[LiquidEagle]

Sorry for the bad quality on the pictures... I took them the night before I met Kojima/Shinkawa at an in-store signing and I was going to print them out and then when I met him I would slam those photos on his table and demand answers immediately :laugh:

[Fats]

I've never noticed that before. Which is astounding when you think about it. I'm a pretty big fan of MGS2 and even with this amount of time after it's release there's still something that I haven't noticed! :)

[VG Aficionado]

Sorry for the bad quality on the pictures... I took them the night before I met Kojima/Shinkawa at an in-store signing and I was going to print them out and then when I met him I would slam those photos on his table and demand answers immediately :laugh::lol:

I've never noticed that before. Which is astounding when you think about it. I'm a pretty big fan of MGS2 and even with this amount of time after it's release there's still something that I haven't noticed! :)The yellow car you see there is modelled after the real car of someone from MGS2's staff (can't remember who right now :-p).

[Fats]

Damn it, I was just about to boot up MGS2 on my PS3 but I can't find any game saves online. Obviously I can't use my own because it's on a PS2 memory card and I'm too lazy to set my PS2 up!

[Red_Eyes]

Which reminds me, you can now download PS2 game saves from online and use it on the PS3 right? And if yes, how do you go about doing it?

[Fats]

^That's what I just tried to do, but the two websites that I went to offered no MGS2 savedata. :(

http://xs.gameshark.com/xploder/xploderui.asp?a=codes&username=gameshark&tab=gc&s=&uid=&fs=

^Try there.

[Z]

I usually only check Gamefaqs.com (http://www.gamefaqs.com/). they tend to have the fastest saves and guides first, AFAIK.

[NeoPlayStation]

I found this on Sony Protection Group site:

Not that SPG can see the future but what we can see it that the latest firestorm over MGS4 being a timed exclusive or not is a hoax.

MGS4The post that started it all was forums.xbox.com where a poster claimed that Super Play Magazine had said the following:

"At the end of 2007, one of the biggest titles to be released for any of the current generation consoles is Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots. As the follow up to the blockbuster smash hit PS2 title Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater, it will problably sell extremely well and be played by many PS3 fans. However, sole owners of Wii and Xbox 360 would have to do without it. Fortunately, Konami isn´t completely blind to the fact that more gamers deserve to play this epic title, and it is now confirmed that Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots for the Xbox 360 will launch a year later in November 2008. It will come with new content additions including VR missions and other bonus gameplay like Snake Tales, which lets you go on more objective-based missions -- some quite lengthy. So, there's no question that Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots for the Xbox 360 comes packed with more content than the original PS3-version.

Seemingly, the Xbox 360 Metal Gear would have been the one to wait for, but Konami respond by releasing the slightly beefed up Metal Gear Solid 4 for PS3 as well."

http://forums.xbox.com/12756627/ShowPost.aspx (please don't feed this troll)

However, this text is an almost word for word rip from an IGN article from 2003:

"At the end of 2001, one of the biggest titles to be released for any of the current generation consoles was Metal Gear Solid 2. As the follow up to the blockbuster smash hit PSX title Metal Gear Solid, it went on to sell extremely well and be played by many PS2 fans. However, sole owners of GameCube and Xbox would have to do without it. Fortunately, Konami wasn't completely blind to the fact that more gamers deserved to play the epic title, and it released Metal Gear Solid 2: Substance for the Xbox a year later in November 2002. This came with new content additions including VR missions and other bonus gameplay like Snake Tales, which lets you go on more objective-based missions -- some quite lengthy. So, there's no question that Metal Gear Solid 2: Substance comes packed with more content than the original MGS2 on PS2.

Seemingly, the Xbox Metal Gear would have been the one to buy, but Konami responded quickly by releasing the slightly beefed up Metal Gear Solid 2: Substance for PS2 this March."

http://insider.ign.com/teasers/388/388211.html

So, SPG can tell you, NOTHING new is known. At this time MGS4 is still a PS3 exclusive.

Desparate trolls :)

[OmniCloud]

Why can't consoles just have there exclusives until told otherwise:huh: The internet is so annoying at times...

I wish I could make up a thread with something interesting, but there's no new news after Gamer's day;(

[VG Aficionado]

It was totally obvious that they had written some things as if they were talking about MGS2: Substance. I thought they just extrapolated what Substance was and assumed what they wanted to assume, but seeing what they actually did there, it's even more pathetic than previously believed.

[Z]

we don't bring such things to our forum. why paste some random posters' comments here? you can do that for official sources or big sites, but not this.

[VG Aficionado]

How about some speculation?

MGS4 will be the wrap-up of the series. The end is coming.

Do you remember the Metal Gear Solid character connections and resemblances with the main personas of the Norse mythology (http://boards.ign.com/message.asp?topic=9222200)?

You might not be able to follow what I'm trying to say here if you have never read that and/or maybe if you aren't a big MGS fan, so please take that into account. I should also warn you, strangers to the MGS series, that I will post some things that I'd consider spoilers from different points of the MGS timeline. I will hide the massive spoilers though.

In the Norse mythology, the Ragnarok is the final battle where Odin and Loki face each other with their respective armies, and the result is apocalyptic.

According to the connections between MGS and the Norse mythology, if they are correct and Kojima and Murata decide to parallelize them to the greatest extent, the end of the Metal Gear Solid series will feature a conflict that resembles the Ragnarok, that is, the final stages of a nuclear war between Big Boss (Odin) and Liquid Snake/Ocelot (Loki) armies.


Metal Gear Solid: Portable Ops spoilers ahead:

Big Boss allegedly joins the Patriots upon Ocelot's request


The meaning behind "Guns of the Patriots" might be the following one:

- The "guns" are Solid Snake and the new FOXHOUND (Meryl and others), as well as the US army.

- The Patriots control the US army, and Liquid Ocelot controls Outer Heaven and its 5 private military companies.

- "Guns of the Patriots" might mean "the story of Solid Snake leading FOXHOUND on the side of the Patriots (where Big Boss belongs)".


In the E3 2006 MGS4 trailer, we learn that Outer Heaven and its PMCs can rival the US army. I understand that the war conflict in MGS4 is a lot about the nuclear confrontation between Outer Heaven and the US army.

Furthermore, since Liquid Snake has taken control of Revolver Ocelot's body, there might be a chance that he also knows what Ocelot knows about the Patriots since Ocelot has always been on their side. This will create a lot of trouble, and trouble + trouble/solving is the essence of a great storyline, something that the MGS series is known for (duh).

However, the hole I see in my own speculation would be where the Eastern rebel militia and others that should be present in MGS4 fit in all this. I could speculate further, but I don't think it's worth it.

Thoughts?

[VideoGame mania]

Now you tell me why the heck Ocelot attached to himself Liquid's arm.
I don't wanna speculate about MGS4, I wanna be surprised when I play it.
Are you saying BB will be resurrected in some form ?

[VG Aficionado]

Now you tell me why the heck Ocelot attached to himself Liquid's arm.Solidus and Ocelot talk about it in MGS2. I'd spoil it for you, but you might prefer to play it again or look it up somewhere else.

I don't wanna speculate about MGS4, I wanna be surprised when I play it.I agree. I don't want to think about it either, but... I can't help it.

I successfully managed to ignore most MGS3 news until I finally played it and I was totally satisfied when I finished it as I had no weird expectations. I don't know what I'll do with MGS4 :nervous:

Are you saying BB will resurrected in some form ?Big Boss appears in the very first MGS4 promo poster along with Vamp, Meryl, Raiden (with a baby), Liquid Ocelot, Solid Snake, Otacon and Naomi. If that doesn't mean he will be in MGS4 somehow, please tell me what it means :-p

[Diresu]

I just got done listening to the latest Kojima podcast and they were talking about MGS2 and the post-modern plot and what it meant and things like that. Also they said MGS4 is essentially a sequel to 2 that will tie up all loose ends. I need to go and replay 2 again.

They talked about Raiden though and how he represented the typeical MGS player archetype and things like that. Its really good stuff. Shane and Milky from 1up were there and Shane is a huge huge HUGE mgs fan. He basically agreed that plot was way ahead of its time and its why people didn't like it but that he was glad kojima did that and chose to have a narrative that has never been done in games before in scale.

[julps31]

MGS4 is a sequal to MGS4? lol. I'm guessin you mean MGS4 is a sequal to MGS2? Man I can't wait to hear more about this game.

[makeitlookreal]

I would love to see some new screenshots from this game!

[Diresu]

MGS4 is a sequal to MGS4? lol. I'm guessin you mean MGS4 is a sequal to MGS2? Man I can't wait to hear more about this game.

I have no idea what you are talking about >.>

[LiquidEagle]

^ :lol: hacker!!

I've never heard the whole Norse Mythology thing, and to be honest that doesn't interest me... not sure why. I'll have to give it a look another time :-p

However, I don't think Snake would ever side with the Patriots. If he's at The Boss's grave and saluting her much like Big Boss did, I'd say he's back to the ideals of The Boss/Big Boss and wants the end of the Patriots, not to mention the end of Liquid Snake.

[LaLiLuLeLo]

I would love to see some new screenshots from this game!

but only because kojima said the final game would look even better graphically. Not because you're interested in...anything else.
:shifty: :shifty:

[Segitz]

Hmm, I just watched the ending of MGS2...

In the PAL version, the camera angle is different! It is zoomed in much further and you cannot see past Snake or Raiden in theses shots...

[LaLiLuLeLo]

Solidus and Ocelot talk about it in MGS2. I'd spoil it for you, but you might prefer to play it again or look it up somewhere else.

I agree. I don't want to think about it either, but... I can't help it.

I successfully managed to ignore most MGS3 news until I finally played it and I was totally satisfied when I finished it as I had no weird expectations. I don't know what I'll do with MGS4 :nervous:

Big Boss appears in the very first MGS4 promo poster along with Vamp, Meryl, Raiden (with a baby), Liquid Ocelot, Solid Snake, Otacon and Naomi. If that doesn't mean he will be in MGS4 somehow, please tell me what it means :-p


Well, they talk about big boss in every game at some point or another. He's a persistent theme to say the least. Doesn't mean he'll come back as Zombie Snake.

[LiquidEagle]

Big Boss is the most persistent character in Metal Gear's main storyline (aka, excluding Ghost Babel and the Ac!ds). He's been in or been talked about in every single Metal Gear, not to mention he was the star of two of them. So yeah, LaLiLuLeLo is right :)

[VG Aficionado]

I've never heard the whole Norse Mythology thing, and to be honest that doesn't interest me... not sure why. I'll have to give it a look another time :-pLet's just say there are many more coincidences than in Zardoz :laugh: Some of them are: "No way! This is more than a similarity!"

However, I don't think Snake would ever side with the Patriots.You'd understand why I'm saying this if you had read that Norse mythology bit. Not that I truly believe it myself or that I think they wouldn't make it different to the mythology anyway.

Well, they talk about big boss in every game at some point or another. He's a persistent theme to say the least. Doesn't mean he'll come back as Zombie Snake.Big Boss is the most persistent character in Metal Gear's main storyline (aka, excluding Ghost Babel and the Ac!ds). He's been in or been talked about in every single Metal Gear, not to mention he was the star of two of them. So yeah, LaLiLuLeLo is right :)But there is no Big Boss artwork prior to the release of MGS or MGS2. And I don't believe that his zombie-like appearance means nothing.

[VonGak]

I've never heard the whole Norse Mythology thing, and to be honest that doesn't interest me... not sure why. I'll have to give it a look another time :-p


Do not worry, we got it in an easy to read comic book version too. :D Quite a bit like Astérix.

[LaLiLuLeLo]

But there is no Big Boss artwork prior to the release of MGS or MGS2. And I don't believe that his zombie-like appearance means nothing.

Excuse me while I crush you.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/d/d6/Big_boss.jpg/150px-Big_boss.jpg
Big Boss Concept Art, circa 1997/98

[julps31]

I have no idea what you are talking about >.>Lol...touche. ;)

[VG Aficionado]

Excuse me while I crush you.Where's the "pwned" smiley?

Hmmm... is BB featured in promotional MGS or MGS2 artwork? And why does he have such appearance in the MGS4 promo poster?

LaLi, have you finished MPO already? Because you might want to do it ;)

[LaLiLuLeLo]

No hard feelings man. ^_^

There was very little promotional art for the first MGS. It wasn't a phenomenon until it came out and got perfect scores in every gaming publication ever. And back when the internet was a barren, empty, 56k wasteland.

[VideoGame mania]

I have a crazy idea, maybe someone (Naomi?) made a clone of BB's dead body and thus why we saw younger Solid Snake who might help SS in this fight against armies. Kojima is playing with our minds :XD:

[Diresu]

I have a crazy idea, maybe someone (Naomi?) made a clone of BB's dead body and thus why we saw younger Solid Snake who might help SS in this fight against armies.

My god, i hope there is no more clones.

[LaLiLuLeLo]

I have a crazy idea, maybe someone (Naomi?) made a clone of BB's dead body and thus why we saw younger Solid Snake who might help SS in this fight against armies. Kojima is playing with our minds :XD:

That's a terrible idea, and I pray in the name of Yahweh, god of the hebrews, and god of the mountain you're wrong.

[LiquidEagle]

Where's the "pwned" smiley?

Hmmm... is BB featured in promotional MGS or MGS2 artwork? And why does he have such appearance in the MGS4 promo poster?

LaLi, have you finished MPO already? Because you might want to do it ;)


Wait, VG didn't know about that Big Boss artwork? Yikes, and I thought he was a fan. :-p

By "prior" I thought you meant before MGS1/MGS2, as in from Metal Gear 1 & 2 for MSX and I was thinking, "dude, VG, you'd be hard-pressed to find ANY decent artwork from those games on their own :laugh:"

[LaLiLuLeLo]

First.

[solidsnakejej]

I was trying to post but it wouldn't allow me.

Konami has announced today their plans to celebrate MG series 20th anniversary by releasing a limited edition collection that includes virtually every Metal Gear game ever released in their original forms.

This collection is currently stated to release only in Japan on July 26th.
According to Konamistyle.jp this collection will include these particular games & DVDs:

Metal Gear [PS2]
Metal Gear 2 Solid Snake [PS2]
Metal Gear Solid [PS]
Metal Gear Solid 2 Sons Of Liberty [PS2]
The Document Of Metal Gear Solid 2 [PS2]
Metal Gear Solid 3 Snake Eater [PS2]
Metal Gear Solid Portable Ops [PSP]
Metal Gear Saga [DVD]

This collection's suggested retail price is 6,572 Yen ($54 Dollars).

From what I understand, this collection does not contain anything new and will just be a repacking of the older games in a new limited edition box set. This is a great set for anyone who is just getting into the MG series, because it contains 6 complete games for less than $60.

Along with this Metal Gear Anniversary edition, Konami also announced their plans to release a Metal Gear Music Anniversary CD collection. While they have not listed what tracks will be included on this CD (or CDs), the Konamistyle.jp does mention the release date as being July 17th and the suggested retail price as 2,800 Yen ($23 Dollars).

Source (http://www.konami.jp/gs/game/mg20th/)
Hopefully they do it in America because I want a copy of The Document Of Metal Gear Solid 2

[VG Aficionado]

Yay! We got rid of a full week of stupid MGS4 multiplatform rumours that Konami crushed today, calling them "speculation".

[LaLiLuLeLo]

How's that, VG?

[VG Aficionado]

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/gaming/a58680/mgs4-xbox-360-speculation-says-konami.html

If you can believe that source, which was one of the first to report the groundless rumours...

I've seen a number of forums banning people simply because way too many "MGS4 going to 360" threads were created as many low profile sites made up their own versions of the story. It felt like a conspiracy that lasted for a few days, and it would have been annoying to deal with it here.

[solidsnakejej]

Almost forgot it seems that they remastered the E3 06 trailer for the 20th anniversary site plus a new sketch of Raiden.
- Changed the music at the beginning.
- Better/more dust and smoke effects.
- Motion blur on fast camera movents.
- Smoother frame rate, especially on key action scenes. I can now clearly see Snake shooting the Gekko in the leg that was hanging over him. Never noticed that before.

http://www.konami.jp/gs/game/mg20th/index.html
direct download:
http://www.konami.jp/gs/game/mg20th/e32006-mgs4.flv
Here is some comparisons:
http://img357.imageshack.us/img357/7163/comp6uq8.png
http://img475.imageshack.us/img475/4263/comp2ec1.png
http://img357.imageshack.us/img357/8586/comp1ke4.png
http://img357.imageshack.us/img357/3880/comp4vx9.png
http://img387.imageshack.us/img387/5689/comp5ec8.png
http://img387.imageshack.us/img387/8751/comp3oa2.png

[VG Aficionado]

Now that's surprising! +rep!

[Sephiroth_VII]

I was trying to post but it wouldn't allow me.



Source (http://www.konami.jp/gs/game/mg20th/)
Hopefully they do it in America because I want a copy of The Document Of Metal Gear Solid 2

I am so buying it, Japanese or not. :birthday:

EDIT: ^^Thanks for that info, Snake! I've missed you all, so +rep to everyone who posted before me in this thread today!

[LiquidEagle]

Interesting, downloading the .flv right now! What's the best player for that? VLC?

[Sephiroth_VII]

Or just use Media Player Classic.

[VG Aficionado]

Wow, the new version of the trailer was very nice. It's a minute shorter as it misses the intro where Snake and Campbell talk about Outer Heaven (although you'll notice the introductory song beginning is uncut), but it's more than worth it compared to the previous version.

There's no new footage, but the noticeable changes are:

1) Smooth framerate all the time.
2) Particle effects are greatly improved. Whether it's sparks or rubble, whenever a Gekkou breaks something, there's a thick cloud of small stones and dust. Smoke is more prominent too.
3) Motion blur. I think it's excessive sometimes, but whatever.
4) Some very slight angle changes. For instance, when Snake picks up his cigarette. I can't say I noticed any others though.

[dendj55]

Interesting, downloading the .flv right now! What's the best player for that? VLC?

I'd say VLC will do.

[LiquidEagle]

July 7th, 2007, I will be playing literally nothing but Metal Gear in honor of its 20th anniversary. Anybody else down? :-D

I'm going to try to get through as many as possible :-p

BTW, this is the first time I've noticed somebody had this available:

www.newzealandstory.com/mgs/

It's cool having the MGS2 & Twin Snakes one (though I would rather have the original available), but I'd rather watch Snake Eater on the bonus disc I got with my Subsistence Limited Edition :)

[GTShotoKen]

Nice, now hopefully E3 will bod well for new MGS4 footage.

[Sephiroth_VII]

Liquid, how's the editing on the videos? Is it okay, or are there major holes?

[LiquidEagle]

I've only watched portions of the MGS2 one so far, but it seems like it just ties all the cinemas & codecs together and I didn't see any gameplay in the portions I watched. I just think it's cool that there's a resource available so if you ever need to reference a part in the game you can pretty much go straight to it in the videos.

[LaLiLuLeLo]

the .flv file won't play (not even on vlc!!) ;_;

[Epix]

It's a flash video file and should play in VLC. Are you using the latest version (0.8.6)?

[LaLiLuLeLo]

dunno. lemme find out.

edit: success! \o/

[LiquidEagle]

Worked in my VLC and it looks friggin' amazing. Any changes to the other trailers? Can't wait for the next one! :-D

[Epix]

Can we get a MegaUpload version of the file?

[LaLiLuLeLo]

Wow, it looks even better! The camera motion and the effects are waaay smoother than before, on top of the lighting being less saturated. Awesome.

[Segitz]

July 7th, 2007, I will be playing literally nothing but Metal Gear in honor of its 20th anniversary. Anybody else down? :-D

I'm going to try to get through as many as possible :-p

BTW, this is the first time I've noticed somebody had this available:

www.newzealandstory.com/mgs/

It's cool having the MGS2 & Twin Snakes one (though I would rather have the original available), but I'd rather watch Snake Eater on the bonus disc I got with my Subsistence Limited Edition :)

Ya, I have those too (I own all games too!)

Sadly, its the GC remake of MGS.

And also sadly, the quality of those movies is balls. I much rather watch the real (MGS3 Subsistence Disc 3) MGS3 movie :D

[LiquidEagle]

I'm MegaUploading right now but it may take a bit... it's like 85 MB

[Epix]

how we doin liquid?

[OmniCloud]

E3 06 is hawt...need more info on this....E3 is a month away right?

[VG Aficionado]

The Sony, Konami and SE conferences will take place before 40 days from now ;) And there's a Konami event this month, although I have no idea what they'll reveal then, other than maybe the next Winning Eleven.

[hidex]

I was trying to post but it wouldn't allow me.



Source (http://www.konami.jp/gs/game/mg20th/)
Hopefully they do it in America because I want a copy of The Document Of Metal Gear Solid 2

I really need this. lol I only got MGS 3.

[LiquidEagle]

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=95OSBP3I

Sorry it took so long :(

[Epix]

^ Thanks.

[curryking1]

Omg at the new site....

I was looking at MGS, MGS2 and 3 up there... and I was just like... damn.. I love MGS lol.

Edit - OMG I didn't even notice the compilation you guys are talking about! Holy crap that looks sexy!

Edit 2 - The newly made trailers running at like, what, 60 FPS? The smooth rate makes the videos look much prettier. Nice comparison screens solid, thanks man.

[Grovestreet]

http://xs116.xs.to/xs116/07231/mgs2000_s.jpg

:thumbl:

[mario25]

Are you implying MGS4 will be on the 360? I can't tell anymore

[Grovestreet]

Are you implying MGS4 will be on the 360? I can't tell anymore

How does that work then?

Course not, just looks cool.

[makeitlookreal]

I don't think MGS4 will be on the 360.

[LaLiLuLeLo]

How does that work then?

Course not, just looks cool.

Nah he's grovestreet is just posting one of the sweet custom paints someone made for forza 2. There were call kinds, wii/nintendo related, gran turismo related (oh the irony), z.o.e., all kinds.

[curryking1]

That MGS paintjob is really cool, nice find man.

[VG Aficionado]

Can we get back to MGS4 (on PS3) again?

[Segitz]

Can we get back to MGS4 (on PS3) again?

I'd love to, but is still not released in Germany yet^^

[Z]

I wouldn't mind getting my car painted like that. :)

PS. speaking of which, at one time, MS payed you $40 a month for you to let them paint your car with Box promotions. getting your car looking cool and get payed for it? sweet deal.


On Topic: I heard nothing from MGS4's online mode since it was announced that there is one. I never played MGO, but I hope 4's will be good- although it is hard to imagine anything MGS relating not to be. ;p

[Epix]

Still says coming 2007 at the end of the remastered video....

[curryking1]

I can see a soldier stuck in Snake's moustache :P

[Segitz]

I can see a soldier stuck in Snake's moustache :P

Either Snake is HUGE or the solider is tiny...

Or you should take less drugs of any kind :D :pinky:

[VonGak]

^or perhaps he's not taking enough drugs. :D

[VG Aficionado]

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y292/y2dazz/mgs4.png

[yoshaw]

dunno. lemme find out.

edit: success! \o/

How'd u make it play? Mine is only playin audio!

nevermind, fixd it somehow! *uninstall vlc, uninstalled codecs, re-install vlc, reinstall codecs, works*

[NeoPlayStation]

Finally! I can access this forum again! :)

[Segitz]

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y292/y2dazz/mgs4.png

'Tis done thru ye old 'shoppe?

[VG Aficionado]

I stole it :-p

[cliffbo]

i thought i read somewhere that this game had been cancelled? wait i'll find the link

[VG Aficionado]

Don't even bother. I can't believe you're serious.

[curryking1]

^or perhaps he's not taking enough drugs. :D

I have drugs!? Where!?

Finally! I can access this forum again! :)

Welcome back! :grouphug:

P.S. I wonder which smiley face I am in the group hug.. I never could find out. I think I'll be