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cliffbo

11-26-2006, 09:24 PM

i'm wondering what those lucky few who own a PS3 think in general of Sony's offering.

graphics out of ten
gameplay
PSP connectivity
userbility
online
general feel
is it worth my investment this march?
anything else i've missed...

forget hype... i want the truth ;) (oh yes, please)

VG Aficionado

11-26-2006, 09:37 PM

Are you trying to obtain objective truth out of subjective opinions? :huh:

cliffbo

11-26-2006, 09:39 PM

Are you trying to obtain objective truth out of subjective opinions? :duh: :duh: :duh: :duh: :duh:

:duh: i've got faith in E-mpire posters :)

edit: have i upset you in some way VG. its come to a point were everytime i post i fully expect you to be the first to respond... and 85% of the time its in a disingenuous fashion... and you do it to others too. you post links that immediately take posters to another thread or (in your opinion) a better argument, if someone posts a vid you refer to your vid thread with (in your opinion) a better vid and your the first to call someone a troll and enjoy using the locky locky animation. could you define trolling for me because i'm having trouble squaring things.

your vid thread is excellent which is why i repped you for it but it does not make you better than the next man.

the Turok thread:
Sorry, but those are old It looks great though.
fatal inertia thread
Posted several times already. And who are you trying to fool anyway, since you never cared about those two.

i'm wondering what those lucky few who own a PS3 think in general of Sony's offering.

graphics out of ten
gameplay
PSP connectivity
userbility
online
general feel
is it worth my investment this march?
anything else i've missed...

forget hype... i want the truth (oh yes, please)

am i asking too much... Christ...

woundingchaney

11-26-2006, 10:03 PM

cliffbo

11-26-2006, 10:05 PM

cheers wounding. in your opinion, is it/ could it, be a viable alternative to a PC?

woundingchaney

11-26-2006, 10:12 PM

cheers wounding. in your opinion, is it/ could it, be a viable alternative to a PC?

Depends, for me - definetely not, for those that want it to be - it has potential.

We are still very early in the preliminary stages of the system itself and particularly what we are seeing with Linux. So this question will better be represented in one to three years.

mario25

11-26-2006, 10:23 PM

i'm wondering what those lucky few who own a PS3 think in general of Sony's offering.

graphics out of ten - Resistance:9.5 (later levels are amazing to look at *snow* - RR7: 9.0 -nba2K7: 8.5 (some slowdown while playing in 1080p)

gameplay - Resistanace: 9.0 -RR7: 9.0 NBA2K7:8.0 (Same issue with slowdown)

PSP connectivity: - 6.0: Not that useful YET.

userbility: -10.0 Everything is user friendly, and I'm a psp owner so I'm used to almost everything.

online: -10 Resistance is a blast to play online, and it's FREE!!!!

general feel: - 9.5 Everything fine with the ps3 in my opinion, now we just need a steady flow of great games and all shall be perfect.

is it worth my investment this march?: It was for me this november, and I own a 1080p tv set so it was more than worth it. (blu-ray movies are awesome!!)

anything else i've missed... -Nothing I can think of right now

cliffbo

11-26-2006, 10:26 PM

i'm wondering what those lucky few who own a PS3 think in general of Sony's offering.

graphics out of ten - Resistance:9.5 - RR7: 9.0 - nba2K7: 8.5 (some slowdown while playing in 1080p)

gameplay - Resistanace: 9.0 -RR7: 9.0 NBA2K7:8.0 (Same issue with slowdown)

PSP connectivity: - 6.0: Not that useful YET.

userbility: -10.0 Everything is user friendly, and I'm a psp owner so I'm used to almost everything.

online: -10 Resistance is a blast to play online, and it's FREE!!!!

general feel: - 9.5 Everything fine with the ps3 in my opinion, now we just need a steady flow of great games and all shall be perfect.

is it worth my investment this march?: It was for me this november, and I own a 1080p tv set so it was more than worth it. (blu-ray movies are awesome!!)

anything else i've missed... -Nothing I can think of right now

what about downloadable games? are they any good and how long does it take to download them, baring in mind your bandwidth?

mario25

11-26-2006, 10:28 PM

I downloaded the motorsotorm demo and it took a while at 105 kb/s aprox. I downloaded blast factor and it's fun, nothing that will blow you out of the water but fun.

EvilTaru

11-26-2006, 10:36 PM

i'm wondering what those lucky few who own a PS3 think in general of Sony's offering.

graphics out of ten:

Resistance (Why a 9? Snow level. Really? HELL YEAH) 9 Motorstorm (it's teh true-true) 10

gameplay:

Resistance (this is the game taking my time away from FFXII afterall, the most playable, enjoyable shooter out there, PERIOD. And that includes EVERYTHING on the market) 10 Motorstorm (FREAKING FUN) 10

PSP connectivity:

N/A (Haven't tested it out)

userbility:

9 (no significant problem)

online:

9 (needs some additions like global buddy list and messaging available in-game, but it's on, it's out there already, I can download stuff, plenty good enough atm)

general feel:

10 (it's on, I can't seem to turn it off and play something else, enough said)

is it worth my investment this march?

Buy it now.

anything else i've missed...

Leave VG alone. :P

forget hype... i want the truth ;) (oh yes, please)

YOU CAN'T HANDLE TEH TRUTH

jaxmkii

11-27-2006, 01:17 AM

it has some minor glitches a update could easly fix other than that...

IT ROCKS! im having to much fun to give you a longer post

julps31

11-27-2006, 01:27 AM

Not to mention by the time its out in Europe Cliff...the 1st wave of possible killer apps really start rolling in. I'm sure some of the games will be delayed but at least i know early to mid 07 should be a good time for PS3 gamers.

CreativeWriter

11-27-2006, 01:51 AM

The system's great, though there are some early issues. Resistance is a fantastic game (9/10), and the online is fabulous (zero lag!). Unfortunately, that's it in terms of solid games, IMO. Oblivion was delayed and Fight Night comes out in December, but by most accounts the other launch games aren't up to par with their 360 counterparts (bummer).

The Sony store (5/10 at the moment) works fine (no background downloading though), but there's not much on it currently. Blast Factor is okay, and my wife seems to be enjoying it. Hopefully we'll see an update soon with more content (the folding at home app, Flow, perhaps a YDL d/l, demos for Heavenly Sword, Lair, Warhawk, etc).

Surfing the net (5/10) is difficult because it appears the text-size function doesn't work yet, and there's no zoom. So the words are terribly small running in 720p. The web browser is a bit slow as well. It's crashed a couple times on me when watching youtube vids (one of the features promoted by Sony).

There are some backwards compatibility (3/10 for me) issues with HDMI that appear to be unresolvable (see sticky thread). That's a big negative for me, since I wanted to play FFXII on the PS3, rather than keeping the PS2 around.

Controller is wonderful (9/10). I love how light it is, and with the new trigger L2/R2 placement my knuckles don't get pained holding it for long periods of time. I wish I could play with it on my PS2! Not many games are using the motion control, but that's to be expected with how late Sony announced it.

Blu-ray playback (8/10) looked great on my 720p TV. I didn't notice any of the graininess that others did, but it was also my first blu-ray experience. It's too bad there wasn't a "prettier" movie bundled with the PS3 that I could more easily judge, say "Batman Begins" or one of the Spiderman movies.

Potential (10/10) is why I bought the system.

Shadow Voa

11-27-2006, 02:19 AM

graphics out of ten - It's a 10 for sure no two ways around it. Games like Resistance are just too pretty to be passed up. 10/10

gameplay - If you like the old Sony controller you'll feel right at home with the SIXAXIS. The lack of rumble is missed, and tilt is somewhat lacking launch wise. 8.5/10

PSP connectivity - If you have a PSP and a PS3 then you know the drill. Its very interesting the Remote and the PSone downloads. I personally see alot of great ideas waiting to be unlocked. For now though if you want PSone games you need the PS3. 9/10

online - The online is ok. If you're looking for LIVE it wont be found here. Sony is on the right track however. With updates and additional content additions it has potential to go the distance and set its own standard instead of following that of others. But at this point right now, its nothing to cheer about. 6/10

general feel - It's a pretty looking system. I like it flat or standing and it really fits well in my gaming area. Controller is nice and kicking back with this baby wirelessly is both fun and relaxing. Tangled cords are gone, charge and play is here to stay. My only deal with the PS3 is that is so damn pretty and shiney that my fingerprints stare back at me if I dont give the system a good cleaning after use. Plus its damn heavy moving every now and then @_@ 8/10

is it worth my investment this march? Are you a Sony fan? Do you like games like DMC4, MGS4, Killzone, Warhawk, LAIR, FFXIII, RE5, AC, etc? If the answer is yes, then this is a system you will want to have. Seriously, hype and everything aside if the games you like are on this system that is the only reason you will want to invest money in this. And for myself at least, the games arent there yet but tones are coming in 2007. 10/10

OmniCloud

11-27-2006, 02:39 AM

NICE THREAD CLIFFY!!!! I'm feeling the reviews as well...I'm picking up PS3 as my main console as this forum has only made me even more confident in my decision. I'll probably pick up a Wii for games that you just have to play on it, but as far as the 360 PS3 battle-I'm pretty confident I will have an experience on PS3 that makes me feel like I haven' missed out on anything just like PS2..Great reviews guys-Keep em coming!!!

julps31

11-27-2006, 03:08 AM

All I know is that 90% of the games i wanna play are gonna be on the PS3 (MGS4, GT5, Devil May Cry 4, WarHawk Heavanly Sword, GTA4...you get the point lol). With the addition of the online, blu-ray and other features its already worth it to me. Even tho some of it needs work.

PhYmon

11-27-2006, 03:11 AM

:duh: i've got faith in E-mpire posters :)

edit: have i upset you in some way VG. its come to a point were everytime i post i fully expect you to be the first to respond... and 85% of the time its in a disingenuous fashion... and you do it to others too. you post links that immediately take posters to another thread or (in your opinion) a better argument, if someone posts a vid you refer to your vid thread with (in your opinion) a better vid and your the first to call someone a troll and enjoy using the locky locky animation. could you define trolling for me because i'm having trouble squaring things.

your vid thread is excellent which is why i repped you for it but it does not make you better than the next man.

the Turok thread:

fatal inertia thread

i'm wondering what those lucky few who own a PS3 think in general of Sony's offering.

graphics out of ten
gameplay
PSP connectivity
userbility
online
general feel
is it worth my investment this march?
anything else i've missed...

forget hype... i want the truth (oh yes, please)

am i asking too much... Christ...

I know this isnt about the main topic but I have to agree with Cliff on this.. Sometimes it feels like u (VG) trying to prove that, u are better than some of us.. U did it more than twice to me (stop to overthink about the last sentence), and I let it go but, now that I see Cliff upset about it (for jugging or contradict what other say) now I see that, I see that I wasnt wrong and what I felt about ur comments were true.. Man u have to respect a little more what others say or think or post for that matter.. Like Yoshaw would said in this case "Stop thinking you are special"

Nameless

11-27-2006, 03:37 AM

Well, I will take a stab at this...

Graphics: Overall launch titles 8.5
Resistance 9.0 ( great for a launch title, visuals get better further in the game!)
Genji 8.5 (Beautiful game, but camera ruins the experience...)
NBA 2K7 7.0 (360 version looks better on 720P...)
Call of Duty 3 9.0 (Looks great!)

Gameplay: Overall launch titles 7.5
I won't list each title, but nothing was new or fresh with the launch titles from a gameplay perspective... (Honestly that's expected)

PSP connectivity 7.0 (Currently a novelty, but has tons of potential)
Currently you can only view pics, music & video files on your LAN via the PS3

Usability 8.0 (menus are not intuitive IMO)
Just not a smooth experience out of the box and several bugs with Audio/video; currently the system savior is Blu-ray the movies look amazing, but it sucks you don't get a remote...

Online 7.5
The online store for videos and demos works well, but the UI was designed for PC use IMO... Online gaming is smooth and lag free, but mic communication is horrible at this point. Several people do not have Bluetooth mics or do not realize the standard PS2 USB mic works. Also, I had difficulty communicating with people who had working mics during the game. (I would assume network issues...) The universal friend list is great, but pointless if you can't use the information to join them during gameplay. (I know this will be a work in progress with developers)

General feel
Overall I was somewhat under whelmed with the PS3 in it's current state...
I know the system has tons of potential and a bright future, but I was expecting a more polished product out the box. The online multiplayer features need a lot of work, but the service is free... Also, numerous system bugs become annoying after a short period of time. The lack luster launch lineup is a major disappointment; the only strong title is Resistance IMO.

In conclusion, I would still recommend the PS3 to anyone considering next-gen gaming simply because the PS3 has great potential and longevity. The PS3 will be around for another 6 to 10 years and with system updates all the minor gripes will be a thing of the past. I'm expecting big things from this shiny box next year and Sony better deliver. Peace

VG Aficionado

11-27-2006, 11:59 AM

This is going to be totally off-topic and I apologise for it in advance, but...

edit: have i upset you in some way VG. its come to a point were everytime i post i fully expect you to be the first to respond... and 85% of the time its in a disingenuous fashion... and you do it to others too.I'm afraid you're exaggerating. As a matter of fact, I didn't reply to your predictions thread at all, and you can bet there are a lot of points I could have replied to and I'm sure you wouldn't have liked what I had to say about it considering what you just posted. I didn't do it because I am sure nothing good would have been extracted out of it. Additionally, it would have been a waste of time. I have nothing against you, so why would I post just to attack you? I agree I overreacted with so many "duh" smilies earlier, but my intention was essentially to show how ridiculous is to expect to be told the "truth" by random users. It's not that I intended it to be offending, but you seem to have taken it personal. I didn't want to go that far. I'm sorry you took it that way.

you post links that immediately take posters to another thread or (in your opinion) a better argument, if someone posts a vid you refer to your vid thread with (in your opinion) a better vid You're confusing things here. Whenever I post links to other threads, all the reasons I can think of are "it's been posted/discussed already" or "direct link / higher quality video". I don't necessarily impose anything by doing that. And what does that have to do with opinions? A low quality feed and an HD feed are not a matter of opinions, but a matter of taste - by posting the link I give everyone the option to watch a better feed. I fail to see what's so wrong about it, mostly when someone posts an old video and believes it's new - all I do is pointing them to a higher quality video.

and your the first to call someone a troll and enjoy using the locky locky animation. could you define trolling for me because i'm having trouble squaring things.I don't do that in a gratuitous way, which is what you seem to mean here. You know, 8 of the last 10 times I called someone a troll, it happened that it was the very same guy under different usernames! Remember Undercover Cop? Well, he seemed to have enough free time in his hands to register again and again after being banned several times in a row. It happened that he had a characteristic writing style and oftenly posted about the very same subjects, so I happened to recognise him all the time because of that, but maybe you didn't. It's not coincidental that all those usernames got banned eventually considering I have no authority to ban anyone or ask for anyone to be banned with prompt execution. I don't think I did anything wrong with that, pretty much the contrary since I just helped expose him several times. He was here (and in other places too) to post blind hate in a number of wicked ways, and that's not right.

2 of those 10 times however, I know I told two guys that I considered they were sort of trolling around, since most of their posts were anything but constructive and seemed to be here just to bash PS3 and give no credit to it or to our positive opinions whatsoever. Is it wrong to discuss their own attitude with them?

I know this isnt about the main topic but I have to agree with Cliff on this.. Sometimes it feels like u (VG) trying to prove that, u are better than some of us.. U did it more than twice to me (stop to overthink about the last sentence), and I let it go but, now that I see Cliff upset about it (for jugging or contradict what other say) now I see that, I see that I wasnt wrong and what I felt about ur comments were true.. Man u have to respect a little more what others say or think or post for that matter.. Excuse me, but I don't even remember what you're talking about. Because of that, I don't think it was so serious, although I may be wrong.

It is my nature being mildly aggressive and very thoughtful sometimes. I understand this is not a purely intellectual forum and thus it's not required for everyone to post brilliantly all the time, and I'm not even the one who can decide what's brilliant and what's not, but this is a public place where freedom of speech and freedom overall, to a certain extent, allow me to post the way I do. I may express my opinion on the main subject or on a particular matter like someone's latest post, and I don't see how much I should exactly care about what I like and don't like here. It's not a matter of respect or disrespect, but a matter of being in a blurred line of "what to say" when given a certain situation. You may like what I say or not, but when you're questioning the respect I have towards all of the usual posters of this forum, you're actually disrespecting me.

Like Yoshaw would said in this case "Stop thinking you are special"your vid thread is excellent which is why i repped you for it but it does not make you better than the next man.Sorry, but you both are misjudging me there, and it feels quite offending to be honest. I'm not attempting to show everyone how cool I am by doing anything I do in this forum. Everything I do here is for the commonwealth, for the little community we have here. Would I have created those two video threads just to show off? Worst thing though, I still see a lot of people here missing a lot of PS3 footage over the last year and a half, and that makes me wonder whether it was worth the effort mostly when I've heard complaints about the structure being the reason why people didn't find it useful rather than the nearly total lack of interest to browse around the single post being the actual main reason.

All in all, I see a mixture of genuine remarks and utter misinterpretation of my posts and attitude. Please accept my apologies for any offense you could have taken from me. However, I expect from you to understand that you both are not properly interpreting my posts. In the future, please PM me whenever you feel I've offended you, because I'm not really aware of all my remarks to all your posts and I'm the first one who doesn't take them too seriously to begin with.

Pumpkin Head

11-27-2006, 01:11 PM

curryking1

11-27-2006, 01:23 PM

Guys, there's no need to start an 'uprising,' for lack of a better word.

If you guys have problems with VG because he is 'condesending' take it to the PM box.

VG is a great guy, and a great component of PSINext. That said, not everyone is always on the same page, but if you guys have something to talk about, here is not the place.

Not everyone likes everyone else, but at least you should all respect each other, and especially not call the man out like this which is very rude.

If you must say something out here though, you guys have to find out how to do it the right way. Don't say 'you do this' or 'you always are like X.' The correct way to do it would be too say how you feel, but not throw blame. A good example is 'I feel X when this happens.'

Fundamental rule, never use 'you' in a situation like this. 'You' is not a word that helps when people are already not happy with one another. If you don't know how not to use 'you,' then you still must start off with 'I feel this' and then end with 'when you say/do X.'

Anyways, for the topic, can someone just give me a frigging PS3? I want to make a review.... *cries*

OmniCloud

11-27-2006, 03:45 PM

Anyways, for the topic, can someone just give me a frigging PS3? I want to make a review.... *cries* LOL..ditto

Epix

11-27-2006, 03:53 PM

Overall, it's great (RFROM Mutliplayer Pwns!). The only nags I have are the fact that you can't charge controllers while the system is in standby, and that you can't do things like download demos and play games simultaneously.

section

11-27-2006, 05:40 PM

As was somewhat expected, unless Sony brings great developer tools to the companies it will remain the 3rd party underdog in MS/Sony 3rd party support. Games will mostly be ported from X2 codebase and that isn't the best way to handle things with Cell.

It will be 1st/2nd party titles that will make PS3 shine by time, now those just released ones aren't yet very refined.

I'm not one of those "in the know" so I have watched in awe how late Sony is finishing its PS3 platform. They either have serious management issues or they don't yet want to spend as much money on PS3 platform as you would think. Considering it's already launched.

I don't really understand the logic unless, and the situation certainly is otherwise very peculiar, they on certain level still want to keep PS3 penetration low. They lose pretty good dough on the machine at the moment, maybe they are targeting PS1/PS2 emulation for spring 2007 so that they can cut the manufacturing costs by removing PS2 chips from PS3.

But nevertheless I'll be hopefully getting one on spring and there are then plenty more titles to choose from. If I had the machine I'd have been kicking your measle buttocks for some time now :)

Stelio

11-27-2006, 09:29 PM

Well ok,

Graphics-
Res 7
Moto 9/8
Genji 7
-thats about all I have seen

Gameplay
Res 8
Moto 9/8
Genji 6

PSP
????

Online
overall 6 (needs some work)
games 6
shop 7

General Feel
8 (really like most aspects of the console but does have some early issues)

Investment
If you plan on buying it buy when you can get it (March is the earliest Im assuming), we may be waiting some time for the serious titles to come along but by March there should be enought to warrant a purchase.

Anything Else
Your going to have to ask specific questions :pope:

Im in tune with you on this one. Though, allow me to say this...Resistance Fall of Man is a 7 out of 10 (best game right now) but the online portion is amazing and fun (9 out of 10 for online)...Has anybody been using their headset for voice chat? Mine doesnt seem to be working even when paired correctly.

P.S. I saw a release date for the new Killzone game on PS3 coming on January 2, 2007...Were my eyes playing tricks on me or does EB know something we dont?

cliffbo

11-27-2006, 09:45 PM

thanks for your replies fellas, they are great and very informative. there seems a lot that Sony needs to iron out and i'm sure given time they will. keep them coming, i'd prefer reading reviews and opinions on this forum rather than go to other sites and have to consider whether they are biased or not. i know that your replies are honest opinions.

VG, i too apologise for bringing your reputation into disrepute. it did come over that way to me but i'm big enough to reconsider my opinion. perhaps we can draw a line under this episode and move on ;) i'm going to plus rep you as a handshake. please do not take this as patronage... its my style +rep

seems i have to spread it around first :(

curryking1

11-27-2006, 11:32 PM

Man, I hate this spread it around rule too! I can never give people rep when I want to! lol!

Applefiend

11-28-2006, 04:46 AM

Don't feel like numbers, put it into words. Been playing this sucker for nearly two weeks non stop now. *gibber*

I tell ya what PS3 feels like. This isn't the PS2 launch(EU) all over again where there were games like SSX that showed what the machine could do. I think this is the PS1 launch all over again.

The best title we have here is Resistance, and I've nearly finished it and I think "Yeah, there's smoke.... Easy to do smoke, some very clever stuff with glass, some bloom lighting effects, a **** load of polys but you know what... I think this machine is hardly ticking over".

The other games I have are the same, RR7, COD3, Genji. The machine is hardly ticking over.

I think there's a lot of japanese developers who have had a nice cosy 6 years with PS2, they thought offloading math operations onto external proccessors was pretty cool, and multitexturing and basic shadows were pretty hot. Now they're just thrown into this scary world of SPUs and vertex and pixel shaders,Blu ray, soft self shadowing, and dynamic lighting and oh my god.... They're sinking. And can they do this in the launch window? HELL NO!

So we got a PS1 here with Ridge Racer and Toh Shin Den. What we got is a big black box of entirely untapped potential. I think we'll be looking back at Resistance in a year and thinking "Damn... How did we ever think that looked good?". I think even in March we might be thinking that. We're waiting on Tony Hawk 2, Vagrant Story, Tekken 3 and he rest. They're a long way off, and that's good, it's going to be a great ride. People in dark rooms are building the real engines for next gen games, we won't see them for a while.

So that's my opinion of it. Big untapped box. Just like PS1, a lot to prove, and a lot of nay sayers.

Nameless

11-28-2006, 05:57 AM

^ Well said...
The PS3 in it's current state is average, but the potential is tremendous!

I could be wrong, but I'm expecting Heavenly Sword & Motor storm to give us a real representation of the visual potential. 2007 should begin to show us what the box can do and 2008 will be bananas! Peace

julps31

11-28-2006, 06:09 AM

Yea I agree. But thats to be expected considering the lack luster launch but i don't fault Sony for releasing the console because waiting even longer for a U.S release in my eyes woulda been a bad move.

So if we got to wait until next year for the real hit makers to come out for the PS3 then so be it. The bare minimum launch was just to tide you over until the games that are gonna really blow us away are done...and not just halfway done imo.

Fillibuster

11-28-2006, 06:17 AM

I had a question and I wasn't sure what thread to post it in, but does anyone know if there are any plans to implement a system link type deal to games? Res on system link would be tight especially since my suitemates next door are planning on getting a PS3 we could run a cable through the bathroom...

cliffbo

12-02-2006, 06:13 PM

cliffbo

12-02-2006, 06:15 PM