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Siraris

11-27-2006, 10:23 PM

Give it some love! (http://games.kikizo.com/news/200611/101_p1.asp) :wank:

It's 4 pages so I'm not pasting it all, here's a few tidbits:

Although different demos of the game have been doing the rounds via download onto owners' systems, and at demo kiosks at stores in Japan and America, some of the feedback has been mixed and it's abundantly clear to us that the near-final product we've played benefits from a lot of perfecting. After all, the game is set to ship in just a couple of weeks in Japan, albeit without the online play and additional features it will boast with the full western release. This build is slick and polished, and even more final builds now fix the remaining issues such as slowdown and loading time.

So the game plays like a dream, to be quite honest. But another big part of the enjoyment is the immersive, tangible world you race in, and that's thanks not just to the physical laws of the track, but the outstanding visual quality too.

Simply put, there's no next-gen racing game as cool as this.

Epix

11-27-2006, 10:25 PM

Nice find!

julps31

11-27-2006, 10:27 PM

Yea i was thinking that this needed its own thread. I'm about to start reading the whole thing...at least i'll try. But it sounds impressive from what i've read.

dnpmakkah

11-27-2006, 10:33 PM

This was already posted by Wotter a bit earlier but thanks to the both of you for the information. This preview got me extremely excited for the game.

the boney king of nowhere.

11-27-2006, 10:34 PM

While races are often incredibly tough to win, practice makes perfect. Using the right paths and driving lines to catch up and overtake is a matter of skill and discipline, and your positioning is based on your driver, not the car, so you can blow up and explode over the finish line, hoping that the explosion throws your driver over the other cars and steals you the win at the last possible second. Clearly, this is the most awesome thing ever.

8-)

Amenophis

11-27-2006, 10:37 PM

Motorstorm is definitely shaping up to be a fantastic game. After playing the demo, I can't wait for the real deal. Definitely one of the more fun racing games I can remember playing.

Garfunkel

11-27-2006, 11:10 PM

i've heard conflicting reports about visual quality so we'll just have to wait and see what happens, i will be getting it come hell or high water

julps31

11-27-2006, 11:19 PM

i've heard conflicting reports about visual quality so we'll just have to wait and see what happens, i will be getting it come hell or high waterFrom what i've heard from people that have actually downloaded the demo it looks great. And the only time i heard people talk down about the graphics was when they played the demo at best buy...which was apparently from a older build. I don't think i've heard anybody say that about the downloadable demo.

pari

11-27-2006, 11:26 PM

In conclusion, to be quite honest we're in love with MotorStorm. When you look at this code with a forward-looking perspective, if there's one game that really shows off the POTENTIAL of the PS3 beyond Xbox 360 right now, absolutely it's MotorStorm, and Evolution is to be saluted for putting together such an awesome package.

Forget MGS or Final Fantasy. MotorStorm is the PS3's first killer app.

Interesting closing comment.

curryking1

11-27-2006, 11:31 PM

Interesting? More like, retarded lol. Motorstorm might be great, but it's far from a Final Fantasy or MGS. FF VII, VIII, IX, X, XII and MGS1, MGS2, MGS3 would certainly beg to differ that rash comment.

Good find, but some credit should be due to backbreaker, I think he got it first, but I'll give you both rep lol.

http://forums.e-mpire.com/showthread.php?t=64950&page=4

New preview of final Japan build, could someone copy and paste the article in this thread, because this site is blocked at work. Here's the link.

http://games.kikizo.com/news/200611/101_p4.asp

VG Aficionado

11-27-2006, 11:31 PM

OmniCloud

11-27-2006, 11:34 PM

dnpmakkah

11-27-2006, 11:48 PM

Motorstorm might be great, but it's far from a Final Fantasy or MGS. FF VII, VIII, IX, X, XII and MGS1, MGS2, MGS3 would certainly beg to differ that rash comment.Well to be fair to the article he did say that it is the FIRST killer app for the PS3 not the BEST killer app. So in essence he could be correct since FF and MGS don't come out till much later...however in the meantime MotorStorm will be the FIRST killer app. Eitherway its kinda strange since I think Resistance is pretty killer considering there isn't many systems out right now.

julps31

11-28-2006, 12:00 AM

Yea pretty much what i was thinking. But some would call Resistance the 1st PS3 killer app (IGN did lol). I don't think they were implying that its better than those games. Just that you don't have to wait for those games to finally get a killer app since you get one in MotorStorm.

EvilTaru

11-28-2006, 03:33 AM

I played it at Target and I was like "This don't look the vids I saw." So yeah, I think some of the Kiosk are older builds, cuz the ground textures were just glitchy as all hell. Interesting thing they said about this being the first Killer App...I'll wait for the reviews for that, I'm just most excited about Heavenly Sword though really...

"Forget MGS4 and FF13?" BLASPHEMY!

The retail build is older and the downloadable build has a rock solid framerate, it's hard to describe but the sense of speed and chaos is just so cool. I think the point is that Motorstorm is just so damn fun that it's a killer app worthy of a PS3 by itself.

OmniCloud

11-28-2006, 03:43 AM

The retail build is older and the downloadable build has a rock solid framerate, it's hard to describe but the sense of speed and chaos is just so cool. I think the point is that Motorstorm is just so damn fun that it's a killer app worthy of a PS3 by itself.Yeah I basically factored this out by reading certain previews and then reading people's experiences at retail demo kiosk. Something just didn't add up. IGN was like FREAKIN AWESOME!!!! Then Nameless was like Great-but nothing that amazing. I figured that the gap between user experiences and preview of the Japanese build had to be a different version of the game. It's funny how PS3 was probably one of the most bashed consoles ever, I think even topping PS2 in the negative department, yet it seems the game library will be the fastest growing of quality titles. On Launch Day we got RESISTANCE...Next up MotorStorm and Fight Night. Then the new year is here already with HS, our U.S Motorstorm with online play, Lair, and Unreal 07. Not to mention the games that got pushed back like Rainbow Six, Oblivion, Half-Life 2, F.E.A.R, Full Auto 2, ect....It's gonna be a heck of a ride. And the spring going into fall releases are gonna be just as big with Insomniac giving us Ratchet and Clank, Sega giving us Virtua Fighter 5, Sony giving us Warhawk and Naughtly dog's untitled game that looks extremely promising. All this leading up to what??! Oh nothing much but Killzone 2, MGS4 and DMC4!!! And Motor Storm will go day and date whenever I pick up my PS3, the rest, is just history.

Lekko

11-28-2006, 03:47 AM

I played both the retail demo and the download demo. Both are decent, but the retail one is very noticeably less polished. I started watching someone else and thought, "that is so far off from what I played at home.". I want both though. There were a few other options and things in the retail demo that I found different, but it looked bad by comparison. Sony needs to demand that those old demos are updated, because it's making them look bad by having that slow broken demo out as the showoff piece of the PS3.

OmniCloud

11-28-2006, 03:48 AM

The game will be released shortly in Japan so no worries there Lekko...

Lekko

11-28-2006, 04:29 AM

The game will be released shortly in Japan so no worries there Lekko...

yeah... but they're not going to put the retail Japan game in US demo units. It will get praise online and in magazines, but most shoppers at best buy passing through don't really read online stuff, they only see the final demo on the floor and judge the system based off that.

Red_Eyes

11-28-2006, 06:03 AM

I thought the demos at best buy were automatically update each day?

EvilTaru

11-28-2006, 06:14 AM

yeah... but they're not going to put the retail Japan game in US demo units. It will get praise online and in magazines, but most shoppers at best buy passing through don't really read online stuff, they only see the final demo on the floor and judge the system based off that.

They should really just put the downloadable demo on the showfloor instead, it's so much more polished.

jako

11-28-2006, 08:51 PM

you'd better watch this :
http://media.ps3.ign.com/media/748/748488/imgs_1.html

this is amazing !!!

EvilTaru

11-29-2006, 02:39 AM

you'd better watch this :
http://media.ps3.ign.com/media/748/748488/imgs_1.html

this is amazing !!!

How many times did she get run over? ROFFLES.

julps31

11-29-2006, 03:18 AM

LMAO...wow. That did look painful. But beautifal lol. Check out the sweet wreck vid too. Really gets your adrenaling pumping.

http://media.ps3.ign.com/media/748/748488/vids_1.html

OmniCloud

11-29-2006, 03:51 AM

Well everybody do there part and go to there local best buy and tell them off!! "Hey, update the PS3 dude, MotorStorm looks WAY BETTER Than THat u FANBOY!!"LOL...

PUNK em 733

11-29-2006, 04:41 AM

Well everybody do there part and go to there local best buy and tell them off!! "Hey, update the PS3 dude, MotorStorm looks WAY BETTER Than THat u FANBOY!!"LOL...

I did, but they beat me over the head many a times with a flapjack, and threw me out. :(

OmniCloud

11-29-2006, 05:11 AM

^hehehe...Call me on the weekend and we'll go up there together! They can't take us both out!

Fillibuster

11-29-2006, 05:52 AM

Didn't know if this has been posted yet but they have four new screens on Gamespy...IMO the mud looks better in these latest shots (http://media.ps3.gamespy.com/media/748/748488/imgs_1.html)

julps31

11-29-2006, 07:06 AM

Nope...new to me. Not the best quality shots tho. Thanks for postin. The fourth image would look sick in hi-res.

Fillibuster

11-29-2006, 08:14 AM

^Yeah that's the one I was talking about. The mud and lines look awesome.

dnpmakkah

11-29-2006, 10:13 AM

Just incase any of you missed this video from Eurogamer. It starts of talking about the Wii but once that part is done they go into the Motor Storm studios and you get some behind the scenes look at stuff. They show the nice progression the game has gone through as well as drawings for the game. I find the sketch with the motorcycle going completly downhill pretty interesting.

LINK HERE (http://www.eurogamer.net/tv_video.php?playlist_id=1367&s=l)

tien69

11-29-2006, 12:45 PM

Played teh retail version last night. Even though it pales to the target render, I was impressed by the graphics. Now hearing the demo version is superior. I tip my hat.

evillion

11-29-2006, 01:53 PM

OMG!! the new 720p Kikizo clip was MAD. the best MS clip i've seen yet. everything just looked SO nextgen! OK, this is officially my must buy title after LAIR.

Fillibuster

11-29-2006, 05:17 PM

OMG!! the new 720p Kikizo clip was MAD. the best MS clip i've seen yet. everything just looked SO nextgen! OK, this is officially my must buy title after LAIR.

Link???

VG Aficionado

11-29-2006, 06:04 PM

Link???Link! (http://www.kikizo.tv/games/motorstorm_nov06/kikizo_hd720p30_motorstorm_nov06.wmv)

Fillibuster

11-29-2006, 06:28 PM

Was that new because I think I've already seen/obssessed over it. LOL

Killing Moon

11-29-2006, 07:10 PM

julps31

11-29-2006, 09:19 PM

Yea that trailers not new. Its one of the newer ones tho.

OmniCloud

11-30-2006, 12:50 AM

Just checked out the latest trailer. As sad as it sounds, I can see this game getting 8.5's and 9's JUST off of the gameplay displayed alone.

*pheh*
And the Sony sucking will begin...watch the complete 180 these scum suckin' critics do when this game releases.Why do u say such things? IGN has been praising the game for weeks now and you know IGN is like "the DEFINITVE" review site. Gamespot might give it a 9.0 or something and probably 1up, but IGN, GAMEINFORMER, GAMEPRO, they've been pretty fair I think. GS and 1up tend to lean towards the XBox side of things...I still can't believe GS gave Zelda an 8.8....sheesh

evillion

11-30-2006, 03:40 AM

julps31

11-30-2006, 04:37 AM

i cant belive the one i saw in Kikizo wasnt even the latest. and it already looked like CG. can anyone direct me to the latest trailer if possible? i would say ign should give it at least a 9.3 and personally it deserves a 9.5.I think that was the latest official trailer but its not brand new. I think i saw it earlier this month the first time.

But you might wanna check out the intro trailer. The first half is cg but the second half is in-game. And you can see some of the same footage in the trailer in better quality.

http://media.ps3.ign.com/media/748/748488/vids_1.html

Check out "opening cinematic"...^

EvilTaru

11-30-2006, 06:38 AM

I think that was the official trailer but its not brand new. I think i saw it earlier this month the first time.

But you might wanna check out the intro trailer. The first half is cg but the second half is in-game. And you can see some of the same footage in the trailer in better quality.

http://media.ps3.ign.com/media/748/748488/vids_1.html

Check out "opening cinematic"...^

I love how one biker punches the other in midair, and the other guy just flew right smack dab into a sign, SO AWESOME.

julps31

11-30-2006, 07:08 AM

I love how one biker punches the other in midair, and the other guy just flew right smack dab into a sign, SO AWESOME.Lol damn...i just noticed that. Lmao. This game is gonna be classic lol. I think this could be PS's Twisted Metal for this gen.

LaLiLuLeLo

11-30-2006, 07:09 AM

Massive Hands on.
hahahaha. *pictures giant hands on motorstorm*

backbreaker

11-30-2006, 10:06 PM

Try this out, the fun factor goes up exponentially.

Before going balls out, learn how to drive so start off slow and learn the course, knowing when to accelerate and slow down is crucial.

Pause the game, switch to motion controls(give it a chance)

start the race: hit the triangle button to go into bonnet view or 1stperson.

When I first started using the sixaxis for driving I was tilting the control up and down too turn and I was out of control.

So I decided to hold the sixaxis like a steering wheel(buttons facing you) and low and behold it just like driving and its much better in bonnet view.

Also while you in bonnet view, use the Right analog stick to look around you, it is awesome.

Fazares

11-30-2006, 10:21 PM

i already know i ll be playing using the motion control....to feel like playing something like excite truck....but with something more...gfx,ai and physics...:-)

EvilTaru

12-01-2006, 02:11 AM

Developer interview!!!

http://ps3.ign.com/articles/748/748295p1.html

dnpmakkah

12-01-2006, 06:07 AM

^ Awesome...thanks for the article Evil. Last sentence says this "I think games like Killzone will start setting the bar for what is possible. "Hmmm interesting....very interesting. What does this guy know that we don't yet. :Carrot:

EvilTaru

12-01-2006, 05:58 PM

http://media.ps3.ign.com/media/748/748488/imgs_1.html

New screens. ~_~

frosty

12-01-2006, 06:14 PM

Damn that looks nice...

http://ps3media.ign.com/ps3/image/article/748/748621/motorstorm-20061201080047778.jpg

Honestly, this is so damn close to the target render, that I really don't care to nitpick the tiny little differences here and there anymore. They have come so close that it really doesn't matter. If killzone can even come that close, it's on. And to hear MS devs saying killzone will set the standard....

Notice how much the background texture resolution has improved.

indiekid4

12-01-2006, 06:15 PM

WOW! Those pictures look AMAZING! The particle effects look just simply amazing! This game is def. a MUST have!

dnpmakkah

12-01-2006, 06:39 PM

Finally get to see new levels

jako

12-01-2006, 06:53 PM

I played Motorstorm on wednesday at the PS3 living room in Paris, and that wet mud in MS was the most amazing thing I saw there !!

VG Aficionado

12-01-2006, 07:24 PM

=-o

Fazares

12-01-2006, 08:11 PM

my.....:-0

GTAce

12-01-2006, 08:18 PM

Awesome, just awesome this game looks every month better. Grats Evolution.^^

Grovestreet

12-01-2006, 08:28 PM

http://www.gametrailers.com/player.php?id=15401&type=wmv&pl=game
Comparison: Target Render - Realtime.

julps31

12-01-2006, 10:15 PM

http://ps3media.ign.com/ps3/image/article/748/748621/motorstorm-20061201080049512.jpg

http://ps3media.ign.com/ps3/image/article/748/748621/motorstorm-20061201080029215.jpg

http://ps3media.ign.com/ps3/image/article/748/748621/motorstorm-20061201080035653.jpg

All I can say is WOW.

Fillibuster

12-01-2006, 11:20 PM

I think these screens look loads better than the DL demo, and its been a couple weeks only!

VG Aficionado

12-01-2006, 11:29 PM

=-o =-o =-o =-o =-o =-o =-o =-o =-o =-o =-o =-o =-o =-o =-o =-o =-o =-o =-o =-o =-o =-o =-o =-o =-o =-o =-o =-o =-o =-o =-o

frosty

12-01-2006, 11:30 PM

The final game is already out in Japan though, so I wouldn't expect any more graphical tweaks.

user friendly

12-01-2006, 11:37 PM

Holy shintoh!!

@frosty, I just read somewhere that it was delayed or something. Looking for a link.

December 14th release date. (http://ps3.qj.net/MotorStorm-s-Japanese-release-date-pushed-back-to-December-14/pg/49/aid/74462)

VG Aficionado

12-01-2006, 11:37 PM

The final game is already out in Japan though, so I wouldn't expect any more graphical tweaks.It's out on December 14. Anyway, yeah, I wouldn't expect any upgrades in the retail version. Maybe the US and EU versions will get some minor tweaking along with the online multiplayer modes, but don't expect anything too noticeable.

I can't wait to see what Evolution will do after MotorStorm. A sequel in a different place and same concept or a different game altogether?

GTAce

12-01-2006, 11:49 PM

=-o =-o =-o =-o =-o =-o =-o =-o =-o =-o =-o =-o =-o =-o =-o =-o =-o =-o =-o =-o =-o =-o =-o =-o =-o =-o =-o =-o =-o =-o =-o
Yeah i can just agree.

frosty

12-01-2006, 11:56 PM

Well, considering that the game's title is actually Motorstorm: Monument Valley, it's rather obvious that they have other locations planned as well.

EvilTaru

12-02-2006, 01:03 AM

I can't wait to take this baby online. I'm having a hard time deciding whether I want to use the bike or not, I can't wait to see real people controlling these vehicles and flying off cliffs. ~_~

TEEDA

12-04-2006, 12:34 AM

Some bike footage here with a female driver

http://www.playfrance.com/news-ps3-tv-madame-sur-une-moto.html

EvilTaru

12-04-2006, 01:27 AM

I usually pick the chick with the red outfit on the other bike, I love the demo.

Fats

12-04-2006, 01:31 AM

Wow, they actually have Pendulum on the soundtrack. That makes me so giddy.

:)

curryking1

12-04-2006, 01:41 AM

http://ps3media.ign.com/ps3/image/article/748/748621/motorstorm-20061201080029215.jpg

Shietttt sooonnnnnn!!!

VG Aficionado

12-04-2006, 01:51 AM

MotorStorm is totally awesome =-o

frosty

12-04-2006, 02:48 AM

My ONLY graphical complaint at this point is the 2D foliage.

Acason79

12-04-2006, 06:01 AM

This game cant get here fast enough. Every new preview has screens that look better than before.

EvilTaru

12-04-2006, 06:23 PM

Shall we crash? ~_~

http://www.playsyde.com/news_3860_en.html

*2 Japanese TV commercials*

julps31

12-04-2006, 06:30 PM

Lol...i love it. The second commercial really got me hyped because of the gameplay shown. That motorcycle on the loop track looked sick. And all those vehicals on screen at once? *drools* Can't wait lol.

masteratt

12-06-2006, 02:56 PM

7 new great screens over here! (http://www.playsyde.com/news_3866_en.html)

I am 'antena' on there and I must agree with myself, the ground textures do look improved :thumpsup:

julps31

12-06-2006, 09:12 PM

Lol nice. And one of the guys that posted said the game looks even better in motion then these screen shots. Must look amazing if thats the case lol. Some of these screens could almost pass as cg for a last gen game imo.

http://images.playsyde.com/gallery/public/4690/988_0006.jpg

Acason79

12-07-2006, 06:18 AM

In case anybody hasnt seen this, from a UK video game show. Looks amazing and the narrator makes some bold statements. So far everyone who has touched a near final build is going crazy over Motorstorm.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TN8rjevi7JA&NR

Smokey

12-07-2006, 06:23 AM

EvilTaru

12-07-2006, 06:53 AM

julps31

12-07-2006, 06:54 AM

Ha, ha...sick. Man this game is looking to be a true killer app. Its definantly got me drooling lol.

raVen

12-07-2006, 07:16 AM

:clapping:
http://images.playfrance.com/5/2102/zoom/8573.jpg
http://images.playfrance.com/5/2102/zoom/9970.jpg
http://images.playfrance.com/5/2102/zoom/5133.jpg

dnpmakkah

12-07-2006, 04:42 PM

I was already impressed with the kiosk demo in Target. If this game looks exactly like that I'd be happy and if it looks even better as many sites are now reporting then yippie! to that.

curryking1

12-07-2006, 05:59 PM

Wow, sweet pics Raven, Motorstorm is looking hype!

Grovestreet

12-07-2006, 08:15 PM

This and Resistance are the only good games what I like so far until the killer apps come out next year.

dnpmakkah

12-09-2006, 07:48 AM

Every time we've gotten a chance to see MotorStorm we've been more and more impressed, and that was still the case this time out. The game is really damn fun at this point, providing for some of the most chaotic racing we've seen in some time. We can't wait to get our hands on its final form in a couple months.
IGN 12/08/2006 Preview (http://ps3.ign.com/articles/749/749979p1.html)

Nameless

12-09-2006, 07:51 AM

I'm not sure if the Kiosk are updating their Moto demo build, but the version I saw today at Best Buy looked eyepopping good! I'm tempted to download the demo again and see if it's been changed...

Applefiend

12-11-2006, 01:22 AM

Spooky to think I'll be playing the full version next week...

Well, japanese one.

I like Motorstorm so much, I'm buying it twice. :)

EvilTaru

12-11-2006, 01:56 AM

Spooky to think I'll be playing the full version next week...

Well, japanese one.

I like Motorstorm so much, I'm buying it twice. :)

Give us impressions please? Thanks. ~_~

VG Aficionado

12-11-2006, 02:04 AM

Spooky to think I'll be playing the full version next week...

Well, japanese one.

I like Motorstorm so much, I'm buying it twice. :)It's released next Thursday!

I guess it'll surely include English language in the disc. Let us know how many languages it features! :)

If you're lucky, they might release a patch for the Japanese version which would include online multiplayer.

GTAce

12-11-2006, 02:10 AM

Im so jealous man.^^
I watched some of the latest vids and im so hyped by this game.
I think its one of the first games i buy for ps3 its just so damn great imo.

Could you make some pics/vids from the different cars when you have the game?

Applefiend

12-11-2006, 03:29 AM

Give it a go....!

Smokey

12-11-2006, 05:21 AM

who was it that kept saying this game has no SPEED it looks awsomely fast!

quick question to my knowledgable friends here CAN i use a LOGITEC PRO wheel with this game?

smoke

frosty

12-11-2006, 05:24 AM

Don't know, but I'd prefer the motion steering personally. I really like it. It takes getting used to, but the precision it offers is awesome.

Applefiend

12-11-2006, 05:29 AM

Just not having much luck getting used to motion steering. Maybe I'm too old!

Smokey

12-11-2006, 05:35 AM

Maybe I'm too old!
lol me & especially me mate too lol (he dont even like the sticks)

frosty

12-11-2006, 05:59 AM

It's better on 4 wheel vehicles, especially the rally car, than bikes. Bikes are a little too twitchy. You wind up doing donuts at the slightest flick of the wrist. The control is more precise than the sticks IMO, and more comfortable once you realise you don't have to move much at all to get the desired results. That's the hardest part, tricking your brain into not trying to steer it like it's a steering wheel.

Smokey

12-11-2006, 06:17 AM

true frosty

hevymac

12-11-2006, 07:32 AM

Hey smokey,
Just a quick reply to your Quiz about the Logitech wheel...
My bro has tried the Logitech GT Force pro wheel on it (Motorstorm demo) and the F1 game and it worked but it wasnt "fully" supported, as in it did not register ALL the way to the end of the turning curcle. So it seems that they are including support for it into the game.
Just a maby but it does seem likely that it will be fully supported.
Also it did not use "Force Feedback"

hevymac

12-11-2006, 07:39 AM

We found that the motion sensing worked very well and felt comfy once we got used to it. It feels very....... intense, If thats the right word to use...

Smokey

12-11-2006, 10:56 AM

thanks hevymac :)
no force feed back! well that sucks biggie i hope the final game is different :)
i love my driving force pro wheel :)

nemesis121

12-11-2006, 11:36 AM

Damn that looks nice...
Honestly, this is so damn close to the target render, that I really don't care to nitpick the tiny little differences here and there anymore. They have come so close that it really doesn't matter. If killzone can even come that close, it's on. And to hear MS devs saying killzone will set the standard....

Notice how much the background texture resolution has improved.

This is now where close to the Target render.

http://www.gametrailers.com/player.php?id=15401&type=wmv

VG Aficionado

12-11-2006, 11:44 AM

This is now where close to the Target render.That's not fully possible in real time on any platform, and considering it's pretty much the best we're going to see for a good while, it's pointless to keep on arguing whether the gameplay looks like CG or not.

Smokey

12-11-2006, 12:12 PM

next game we will see :) i tell ya MOTORSTORM looks awsome cant wait to get console & it :)

nemesis121

12-11-2006, 12:13 PM

VG Aficionado

12-11-2006, 12:56 PM

I never said it was possible, did you read what I wrote? I said it's now where near the Target Render. GeeeeeezAnd I said it's pointless to beat that dead horse, so why bringing it back over and over again. GeeEeeEeeEeez.

NeoPlayStation

12-11-2006, 04:59 PM

GI interview Evo Studios CEO (http://www.gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?aid=21581)

Plans in place for PlayStation 4, says Evolution Studios boss (http://www.gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?aid=21582)

Good read.

edoshin

12-11-2006, 06:09 PM

I never said it was possible, did you read what I wrote? I said it's now where near the Target Render. Geeeeeez

Well u gotta admit .. "now where near" is not very comprehensible. Could mean either case.

Xerxes

12-11-2006, 06:31 PM

3-5 years from now expect to see graphics hitting the CG line.

VG Aficionado

12-11-2006, 06:33 PM

3-5 years from now expect to see graphics hitting the CG line.I guess you mean today's CG, because it will be even better 5 years from now.

Xerxes

12-11-2006, 06:36 PM

^Yea. But of course not CG's like Final Fantasy Versus XIII. haha

Bliss

12-11-2006, 06:52 PM

This game is amazing ! Cannot wait to put my hands on PS3 and Motorstorm ! PS3 is shaping up as the console I was dreaming for years !

Xerxes

12-11-2006, 06:56 PM

That's not fully possible in real time on any platform, and considering it's pretty much the best we're going to see for a good while, it's pointless to keep on arguing whether the gameplay looks like CG or not.

True, because by the time the game gets better graphics, there will always have a CG better than the graphics--always. So it is really impossible for any console to have CG quality graphics.

Think of it like this:

Final Fantasy 8 had CG's but thoes CG's are now similar to FF 12 graphics and pretty soon the CG in FF 12 will look like some games in FF ??. CG's will never look the same they will only get better.

frosty

12-11-2006, 07:05 PM

Xerxes

12-11-2006, 07:10 PM

^Yea great example.

julps31

12-11-2006, 09:45 PM

Nevermind if it actually looks like the trailer in a side by side comparison. All I know is that its one of the best...if not THE best looking next-gen racer. And parts could definatnly pass as CG (at least in screens).

FantasyGhost

12-12-2006, 04:47 PM

high res screens: http://threespeech.com/blog/?p=214

julps31

12-13-2006, 03:21 AM

Seen all of those screens before except the one with the cars under carriage facing the camera (which looks amazing btw). But thanks for the heads up.

Domination

12-13-2006, 03:56 AM

After going back and playing through FF7, and then watching the FF7 realtime demo for PS3 at E3 05', it completley proves the point you make. The real time version is leaps and bounds better than the pre-rendered version from FF7.

That brings back memories. How I remember this to be a very popular debate back a few years ago; FF7's FMVs being the peak for next-generations consoles. :quagmire:

NeoPlayStation

12-13-2006, 11:22 AM

Famitsu scores:
Motorstorm (PS3, Sony): 8 / 8 / 8 / 6 - (30/40)

:(

Could The lack of online features be the reason for this scores?

Raijin

12-13-2006, 11:24 AM

Famitsu scores:
Motorstorm (PS3, Sony): 8 / 8 / 8 / 6 - (30/40)

:(

Could The lack of online features be the reason for this scores?

Just dont bother with Famitsu reviews.

VG Aficionado

12-13-2006, 11:42 AM

I don't think MotorStorm is a game well suited to Japanese taste. The lack of online doesn't help either, but still, it looks like only one of the reviewers didn't particularly like it while the others did enjoy it.

MotorStorm will get much better marks in the US and Europe as it is getting very positive previews from American and European media. And online gaming will be there when they review it.

Smokey

12-13-2006, 12:41 PM

so its not online?

msantti

12-13-2006, 12:45 PM

Do the JApanese like games like this? I mean really.

The 8's are fine but the 6 was out of line.

VG Aficionado

12-13-2006, 12:51 PM

so its not online?Not in Japan, even though I wouldn't rule out a patch to enable it just yet. US and EU versions will definately feature online multiplayer.

Smokey

12-13-2006, 01:44 PM

thanks VG (relief)

adam2407

12-13-2006, 01:49 PM

Famitsu scores:
Motorstorm (PS3, Sony): 8 / 8 / 8 / 6 - (30/40)

:(

Could The lack of online features be the reason for this scores?

What the..... "6" for motorstorm? I don,t know what they're thinking....
ohwell, they gave an everage "8" for Gundam though ^^;;
I'm gonna buy this game tomorow. I will write my impression of it later on ^^

ddaryl

12-13-2006, 01:55 PM

Japanese like there street racers / rice burners. I don't think they are down with offroad racing much.

sig-gotyouth

12-13-2006, 02:17 PM

Crossbar

12-13-2006, 03:37 PM

Here's (http://gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?aid=21686)the second part of the interview at gi.biz
Motoring Ahead

In part 1 of our interview with Martin Kenwright, the Evolution Studios boss talked about the development of PS3 launch title Motorstorm.

Here he discusses planning as far forward as the launch of PlayStation 4, the damage sequelitis is doing to the industry, and playing darts for commercial deals...
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GamesIndustry.biz: How do you find working on a console which, for the majority of your development time, isn't actually finished?

Martin Kenwright: You're actually trying to address a business model that doesn't exist, a market that doesn't yet exist and a level of technology that doesn't exist. So you've got to 'imagineer' the process.

The first year we had to get the the ethos right. Can we take special effects from movies and run them in real-time? How much power have we actually got? How are we going to build this world? And as a result you go into cul-de-sacs. You make incorrect decisions, but it's critical that you make mistakes because you have to learn what not to do.

We went through a phase of understanding technology, creating technology, wishing for technology. But once that as settled the game came together very quickly. Actual production was fluid and fast. The only thing we knew would be consistent was that nothing would stay the same; things changed everyday.

And every developer is in the same boat at this point. Perhaps you're better off because you're part of Sony...

The best thing about it is that a lot of technology we've made is going to now be available for other developers. At least everyone now knows what the hardware is, it's finished and locked down. When we started on a PlayStation 3 game the hardware wasn't even settled.

But that's the fun and the pain. It's exciting; our technologists love being first to see this sort of thing, we can't stop them at times.

Has the whole process of working on Motorstorm reinvigorated the company? I imagine working on an official rally game has its restrictions by its very nature - does the team feel refreshed?

With the whole process of making a game you'll go through the doldrums, the depression and then the uplift. It's an emotional rollercoaster. People give it their all for a good few years.

But the wonderful thing I can say about the team is that even when we knew World Rally wasn't a big player any more, and it was lost in the niche, even World Rally 5 - which came out just over a year ago - was done as a labour of love. It was done brilliantly. We thought we could still create something special and that really encapsulates the entire ethos for everyone.

There are people who will make something happen and people who will wait for something to happen - which are you going to be? With Motorstorm we really tried to make an early momentum and E3 kick-started that for us. It was like burning all our bridges so there was no going back.

We went off to Monument Valley, bribed the Native Americans to get access. We had to get permission to land on top of the rocks. We got some of the best cinematographers together and created this amazing vision.

Once people understood what we were trying to do, we were going to go so big and so high-profile with this that we had to create something bigger than Evolution Studios to make this happen. There's stress. But slowly and surely the fog begins to clear and hints of the gameplay came through. At E3 this past year I was telling everyone at Sony that this could be one of the proper launch titles for PS3.

I think we really proved ourselves and pulled it together at E3 this year. As a developer you thrive off feedback. You see the PS3 launch in America all across Times Square, with massive queues and giant screens, and for a developer who's given two or more years of his life - I'm absolutely thrilled for the team. It's all been worthwhile.

Evolution Studios is now considered a developer that specialises in driving games. Is that something you want to continue to do, or do you see the team expanding into other genres? Would the studio grow and learn by working on something other than four-wheeled games?

The marketplace will be changing beyond all recognition in the next five years. We've anticipated that. I know people are looking at PS3 now, and I'm not being glib, but we're actually looking at PS4. I'm thinking where will it be in five years, how will we get there? What will the marketplace be like, the games, who'll be buying them?

You can't keep doing what you always do. You do have to evolve and look up every several years. Five or six years ago we set off to try and own rally on PS2. And then to create this huge early momentum and big hit on PS3, which we've done. We've established [satellite studio] Bigbig in the entertainment arcade sector with Pursuit Force.

So we've been looking at your questions ourselves now for the next five years. Our aim is to work to our strengths. It doesn't necessarily mean we'll always be working in the driving genre forever; we're all in the entertainment industry now, that's where we're going.

As videogames are part of the entertainment industry, is there a danger that development studios will stick to what they are good at, but not be able to evolve past their comfortable niche? Evolution makes great off-road racing games - do you continue to do that and build success, or do you take the risk of going forward into new areas?

What I've learnt in the past is you can incremently improve something by one per cent, and it takes two years and millions of pounds and all you get is more of the same. You polarise your market. You're offering more of the same instead of something new, memorable and exciting.

Hindsight is a wonderful thing, but sticking to what you're best at can be more of a risk than reinventing yourself. The DNA of all these games is around 80 per cent the same. It's the application, the value of the IP, the new killer brand that is actually priceless. Whatever you do is really hard work.

People like to tick boxes and play it safe, but sequels are the bane of our industry. 'The last one was good so the board wants ten more the same...' That's actually harming the marketplace irreparably.

We're in the business of making money; we're very aware of that. We've arm wrestled publishers to get more money. Honestly, we really have played darts for commercial deals and won. We understand that you live and die by you cashflow, and the secret is that early on you're able to champion the vision and people can see from your track record what you can achieve and how you've managed transitions before.

The reality for many small developers is that publishers are risk averse. But things are going to change. The way games are going to be made is going to change, the way they're funded is going to change.

It's not going to be like a parent/child relationship with publishers in the future. It's going to become much more of a creative partnership. I think it's going to be an amazing time for games. People are waking up now to the fact that sequels are actually high risk rather than low risk.

Martin Kenwright is CEO of Evolution Studios. Interview by Matt Martin.

julps31

12-13-2006, 05:53 PM

I played it excesivley last night at it must be said. its definatley visualy great and its a great intuative game to show of the SIXAXIS but.. its not a game I'd go out and rush to buy... oh and the explosions were kinda last-gen. While the damage was cool.. I don't know, I just wasnt to taken by it.

I was expecting it to be a little more frantic.. maybe that'll happen with online playHmm i'll just take this as your humble opinion since people have been playing the demo for a lil while now and have loved it. :) I'll make my decision when i get my hands on it.

sig-gotyouth

12-13-2006, 06:10 PM

Hmm i'll just take this as your humble opinion since people have been playing the demo for a lil while now and have loved it. :) I'll make my decision when i get my hands on it.

haha, I'm not the biggest gamer in the world my friend.. so I'd just take it as my humble opinion haha.. as soon as a good RPG or soccer sim comes through, I'll be there with a detailed opinion haha

julps31

12-13-2006, 06:20 PM

Lol touche... :cheers:

curryking1

12-16-2006, 10:23 PM

Apparently, I have never actually seen what Motorstorm has ever looked like. To me, at least, this looks like a much more polished up game.

I found these images up over on TXB.

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d73/adam2407/MS1.jpg
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d73/adam2407/MS2.jpg
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d73/adam2407/MS3.jpg
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d73/adam2407/MS4.jpg
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d73/adam2407/MS5.jpg
http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d73/adam2407/MS6.jpg

It cannot JUST me be. No friggin way. Is that what the final game looks like? Why does that look frigging spectacular and at least noticeably better than all the other screens I've seen?

Honestly, what the hell? I want to see the final product on an HD TV in front of my eyes so I can verify this. The 2nd and last pic I just posted look borderline CG quality.

found the pics via 'Jason Lee' on TXB.

Raijin

12-16-2006, 10:26 PM

GTAce

12-16-2006, 10:28 PM

Here is the post. (http://forums.e-mpire.com/showpost.php?p=1335443&postcount=87) ;)

VG Aficionado

12-16-2006, 10:36 PM

=-o =-o =-o =-o =-o =-o =-o =-o =-o =-o =-o =-o =-o =-o =-o =-o =-o =-o =-o =-o =-o =-o =-o =-o =-o =-o =-o =-o =-o =-o =-o

And PS3 has just launched...

curryking1

12-16-2006, 11:15 PM

Those screens were taken from this board... ^^ and from someone who's playing the game right now. :)

LOL! Talk about circulating the news! MY BAD LOL! That's hilarious, hahaha.

But seriously, that looks frigging unbelievable. THAT is what I expected from next gen.

Just... unbelievable stuff, wow.

Everything is actually polished and looks amazing!! Holy crap! Even the textures (which I thought were a BIG part of the not so good looking stuff that was shown at first and very early) are massively improved everywhere! HOLY CRAP @ THAT SHIT!

jaxmkii

12-17-2006, 06:13 AM

what are they saying about it on TXB?

Diresu

12-17-2006, 06:18 AM

haha, I'm not the biggest gamer in the world my friend.. so I'd just take it as my humble opinion haha.. as soon as a good RPG or soccer sim comes through, I'll be there with a detailed opinion haha

PS3 ( Actual next gen, not port) winning eleven...I can hardly wait.