Formula One Championship Edition Updated Hands-On

[Nerve-Damage]

Formula One Championship Edition Updated Hands-On (http://www.gamespot.com/pages/gamespace/updates.php?pid=928392&sid=6163167&tag=topslot;title;1&om_act=convert&click=topslot)

Considering that the game seems like an excellent example of the PlayStation 3's graphical prowess,

http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2006/263/928392_20060921_screen001.jpg

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:rave:

[Fillibuster]

This is a really addictive demo just like Motorstorm. It may be a little difficult to master, but I'm really looking forward to this game. And the rain effects are incredible!!!

[OmniCloud]

When does this one release again? Looks quite impressive...The control sounds like good fun...

[Xerxes]

Wow! The last two screens look pretty good!

[CrumCon]

The best looking racing on next-gen.. only behind MotorStorm.

But why didnt they make the grass more high res? and the asphalt too!! both has low resolution

[frosty]

The grass is blurry because of an effect called depth of field, which simulates the way a camera lens focuses on an object and all other objects in the foreground or background become blurry. It's really nice to finally see a racing game where you can actually see individual blades of grass sticking up on the ground rather than a flat texture of some grass. However, it's the lighting that spoils it for me. Look at the tires, they all seem to be getting lit from the same side even when the cars are facing different directions. It needs more of that motorstorm style lighting.

[VG Aficionado]

But why didnt they make the grass more high res? and the asphalt too!! both has low resolutionIt is beyond me how can anyone complain about something that nobody is going to pay attention to while racing. Even worse is that you can't tell that it's an effect rather than a flaw.

[Red_Eyes]

Especially when you're driving an F1 at blazing speed.

[RavenFox]

Damn no force feedback for the logitech wheels? Can anyone confirm this?

[karibu]

Damn no force feedback for the logitech wheels? Can anyone confirm this?

Aren't force feedback and rumble different things??
Atleast they work in different way.


BTW, hard to believe cars can be done better O_o
Looks so real. Background is... meh.

[Smokey]

Damn no force feedback for the logitech wheels? Can anyone confirm this?

it aint worth shit if theres no force feed back :(

[VG Aficionado]

BTW, hard to believe cars can be done better O_o
Looks so real. Background is... meh.Haven't you seen any gameplay videos? Those screenshots don't make any justice to environments at all.

[curryking1]

I absolutely love the cars in this game, they look awesome. Looking at just the game screenshots, it's hard to say where they can improve upon them.

[satriales]

So is it based on the 2006 championship? or are they going to update the drivers and teams for the upcoming season?

[GTAce]

No its based on the 2006 season but thats good for Micheal Schumacher fans LOL.

[Leedogg]

No its based on the 2006 season but thats good for Micheal Schumacher fans LOL.

yep it is :banana:

that reminds me, to go back and play the demo again

[jaxmkii]

it aint worth shit if theres no force feed back :(

if all us DFP owners bitch to sony?...

[8_Bit]

The best looking racing on next-gen.. only behind MotorStorm.

But why didnt they make the grass more high res? and the asphalt too!! both has low resolution

It's called DEPTH OF FIELD. It's what you get with real optics. You get more of this effect with long telephoto lenses than you get with wide-angle lenses. It's based on the laws of physics.

Observe:

http://i.cnn.net/si/golf/news/2000/11/07/tiger_pga_conflict_ap/lg_woods_ap-01.jpg

EDIT: Beaten by Frosty.

The grass is blurry because of an effect called depth of field, which simulates the way a camera lens focuses on an object and all other objects in the foreground or background become blurry. It's really nice to finally see a racing game where you can actually see individual blades of grass sticking up on the ground rather than a flat texture of some grass. However, it's the lighting that spoils it for me. Look at the tires, they all seem to be getting lit from the same side even when the cars are facing different directions. It needs more of that motorstorm style lighting.

Frosty:

The lighting would be relative to the position of the light source. If it is a partly-cloudy day, and the sun's rays are softened by and reflecting off clouds, thus enlarging and softening the light source, this lighting would be absolutely correct. The second picture (where the cars' positions are most different) looks correctly lit to me. The cars in the back facing 3/4 have the light falling off away from the source, where as the light from the cars in the foreground facing the light have their tires reflecting from the middle and fading outward. This looks good to me.

[Smokey]

if all us DFP owners bitch to sony?...

would it be a logitec prob or sony? dunno, you just cant use a wheel that doesnt push back

[woundingchaney]

The demo was absolutely horrible and a poor excuse for a next gen racing sim. I hope they bring it up to speed for launch.

[Fillibuster]

Wow, Wounding you thought it was that bad? I think all the tweaks you can pull off to get the racing style you want is really nice.

[woundingchaney]

Wow, Wounding you thought it was that bad? I think all the tweaks you can pull off to get the racing style you want is really nice.

Yes I was really underwhelmed especially after the TGS preview. I think that it has the potential to be a good racer but after playing the demo I was anything but impressed. It definetely is not a graphical masterpiece nor does it have the sense of speed one would expect from a F1 racer, the title needs work.

Im not a big racing fan, I usually pick about one up a year and it looks like MS is going to be my title (I was pleasantly surprised by that title, although the whole weightless/floating cars pisses me off LOL):smile:

[VG Aficionado]

And that's why F1 games aren't released in the US :duh:

[woundingchaney]

And that's why F1 games aren't released in the US :duh:

Ummm

Sure they are, am I supposed to be awed by the game simply because it is a F1 title???

[VG Aficionado]

am I supposed to be awed by the game simply because it is a F1 title???It is a very different racer to anything you've played so far. I know what it is about since I own a F1 title, and I'm not a fan either but everything I've seen and read on this title since TGS has blown me away, which is the impression that every site is getting from it as well, and I don't think that's coincidental. Same goes for the friends to whom I've shown HD footage.

Besides, just show me another racing title with 22 cars on screen, crash damage, weather effects, DOF, motion blur, HDR and whatnot that looks faster and sharper than this game on any other platform and that features 20 tracks (and a commentator most likely) and no less than 11-people online multiplayer. And we're talking about a first generation game, by the way.

[woundingchaney]

It is a very different racer to anything you've played so far. I know what it is about since I own a F1 title, and I'm not a fan either but everything I've seen and read on this title since TGS has blown me away, which is the impression that every site is getting from it as well, and I don't think that's coincidental. Same goes for the friends to whom I've shown HD footage.

Besides, just show me another racing title with 22 cars on screen, crash damage, weather effects, DOF, motion blur, HDR and whatnot that looks faster and sharper than this game on any other platform and that features 20 tracks (and a commentator most likely) and no less than 11 online multiplayer. And we're talking about a first generation game, by the way.


Im very familiar with what generation we are speaking of.

Yeah I have owned F1 titles in the past. And I have played the demo several times in my living room. Either there is a dramatic difference between "TV" mode and single player. When playing the game it isnt anywhere nearly as visually as impressive as the screen captures imply. Crash damage isnt all that evident and nothing beyond what I have seen in other titles (although they arent F1 titles), sense of speed isnt above and beyond anything else and graphics are ok - cars look pretty good but track and backgrounds are extremely bland with very few objects on screen (I havent seen anywhere near 22 cars on screen at once), and DOF and motion blur are old hat in racing titles now. Seeing as how internet and HD media and pics have not been very representative of gameplay so far I dont give them much credit. It definetely isnt impressive.

Its very possible that the demo is from an older build but with it being the best representation currently available I can assure you it isnt overly impressive.

[VG Aficionado]

I still can't possibly agree with that. And I'm not the only one who doesn't.

[woundingchaney]

I still can't possibly agree with that. And I'm not the only one who doesn't.

Thats fine its an opinion. But its ridiculous to state my opinion is invalid because Im from the states and it is a F1 game is ludicrous. Apparently there are a couple others who enjoy the title here and more power to them. I assure you Im not the only one who feels as I do.

[VG Aficionado]

Thats fine its an opinion. Apparently there are a couple others who enjoy the title here and more power to them. I assure you Im not the only one who feels as I do.If by "apparently a couple others" you mean IGN, Gamespot and all the F1 fans of all levels I know of who had the chance to play this game in my continent, yeah.

Anyway, I see why these games aren't successful in the US. And if you're wondering about it, I'm just bothered that something is only impressive just when you think it is rather than for what it is in its own terms given the circumstances, which is the point of view I have here (I already mentioned I'm no F1 fan, so my opinion about it is not subjective). But hey, that's freedom of speech.

[woundingchaney]

If by "apparently a couple others" you mean IGN, Gamespot and all the F1 fans of all levels I know of who had the chance to play this game in my continent, yeah.

Anyway, I see why these games aren't successful in the US. And if you're wondering about it, I'm just bothered that something is only impressive just when you think it is rather than for what it is in its own terms given the circumstances, which is the point of view I have here (I already mentioned I'm no F1 fan, so my opinion about it is not subjective). But hey, that's freedom of speech.

Seeing as how it is opinion based my personal view of what constitutes as impressive or not would apply here. I meant "couple" of others as in those posted in the thread.

I seriously doubt your opinion is any more subjective than mine despite whether or not you enjoy F1 titles.

Gamespot didnt play the download available over the PS store they played some updated version available at a gameshow. Its quite possible that the game has been refined, however, the download currently available is anything but impressive. (Unless of course there is a new download demo available that Im not aware of).

[VG Aficionado]

Whatever, man. There aren't any other racing games that offer that much so good in the same package.

[Fillibuster]

Sorry, didn't mean to start a fire storm, but I enjoyed reading your opinions. I personally like the sense of speed in this game. It emphasizes the finesse and skill that goes into driving an F1 car as opposed to a racing game like Burnout where all you do is go fast and crash.

And wounding don't you think that the starts of the races in the demo often have a lot going on? I know me and my friend spend time jacking around and trying to cause big wrecks in the first turn at Indy and we can get a lot of shit going on at once in that corner...

[woundingchaney]

Sorry, didn't mean to start a fire storm, but I enjoyed reading your opinions. I personally like the sense of speed in this game. It emphasizes the finesse and skill that goes into driving an F1 car as opposed to a racing game like Burnout where all you do is go fast and crash.

And wounding don't you think that the starts of the races in the demo often have a lot going on? I know me and my friend spend time jacking around and trying to cause big wrecks in the first turn at Indy and we can get a lot of shit going on at once in that corner...

The start of the race there can be a lot going on but thats about the extent of it. 5 seconds into the race and the action has passed (for the most part). I was very unimpressed by the demo but as I said Im sure it is an early build.

Im not trying to come off as this game is hopeless or anything of the like.

[VG Aficionado]

I just mean there's a difference between being unimpressed and something not being impressive taking into account many factors. These are two totally different points of view that are colliding here and we're going nowhere. I just don't approve the reasons why you're unimpressed, I don't find them reasonable so to speak.

[woundingchaney]

I just mean there's a difference between being unimpressed and something not being impressive taking into account many factors. These are two totally different points of view that are colliding here and we're going nowhere. I just don't approve the reasons why you're unimpressed, I don't find them reasonable so to speak.

Thats fine man I understand where you are coming from.

Although I think it is valid that if a game is unimpressive on a graphical and gameplay level to say that it needs work.

[VG Aficionado]

Although I think it is valid that if a game is unimpressive on a graphical and gameplay level to say that it needs work.Sure, but that's not the case here because it IS impressive. I listed a number of its features and I have yet to see a racing game that matches all of them, let alone surpass most of them more successfully than it does. And according to the latest IGN interview, it's improved since then, including crash damage and online features.

The game is about simulating F1, and if F1 doesn't impress you, no F1 games will ever impress you. So let's keep replying to each other until we don't give a damn about games anymore.

[jaxmkii]

Thats fine its an opinion. But its ridiculous to state my opinion is invalid because Im from the states and it is a F1 game is ludicrous. Apparently there are a couple others who enjoy the title here and more power to them. I assure you Im not the only one who feels as I do.

I have played the demo and chaney is right its not supergood. its something i would expect to find on the PC. But hey at least its F1 and not another NASCAR.

BTW im an american I dont like nascar i dont drive a F-150. and i wish speedvision would bring back La mons, WRC, F1 and isle of man bike racing. but instead we get 24/7 of going around in circles

[woundingchaney]

Sure, but that's not the case here because it IS impressive. I listed a number of its features and I have yet to see a racing game that matches all of them, let alone surpass most of them more successfully than it does. And according to the latest IGN interview, it's improved since then, including crash damage and online features.

The game is about simulating F1, and if F1 doesn't impress you, no F1 games will ever impress you. So let's keep replying to each other until we don't give a damn about games anymore.


I am playing the game. Its a user review it has nothing to do with headlines spec sheets or anything of the like. I cant believe you keep insisting that because it is a F1 game my views are unfounded. Have I ever stated that I dont like F1 racing titles???

We can list several aspects of any one title to present the game but means little to its overall value. How many other titles on any of the next gen consoles have been ridiculously hyped or overpromised only to miss the bar by a mile??

Its fine that you dont agree with me but why is it that my opinion is somehow unfounded or incompetent??

[cliffbo]

i've seen pics of this game. i've seen vids of this games (gameplay) Looks good to me, but then again i haven't actually played it...

[OG_Monkey]

This looks cool to me too and I as well havent actually played it. It looks fun to me and im looking forward to it.

[masteratt]

Amazing crashes over here guys. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0vl8u_DWbI&mode=user&search=)

Cell = King of physics.

[GTAce]

Holy.... great thank you. +rep!
My dad saw this and said "woah" because he thought it was a real race crash. LOL

[CrumCon]

OK i take all my bad opinions about this game!

This game rules! physics monsters! but dammit PS3 599 euros!


but the vid is done on purpose.. look at the car.. it drive way way too fast, even on a sharp turn.

[VG Aficionado]

but the vid is done on purpose.. look at the car.. it drive way way too fast, even on a sharp turn.Man, just don't keep looking for nuances to complain about, specially after your first statement in your post above. How does making it on purpose just to show it off make crash physics seem less interesting?

I feel F1 is truly amazing for a first generation title. Next year's title will be even more amazing in terms of crashes and who knows what else.

[satriales]

I really can't wait for this game. I'm in the UK but have recently ordered a Jap PS3 and it has just been shipped today :)
F1 will definately be one of the first games I get, but instead of importing the Jap version I will wait a few weeks for the UK one to get english commentary.

I was a bit disapointed with that crash video though. I think it's more to do with the video being low quality than the actual game itself. Also the camera was really far back from the car which always looks less impressive than an in-car view. Every other video I have seen looks incredible, so I can't wait to play it on my new HDTV :)

[GTShotoKen]

I personally don't give a rats ass about F1 becuase it's just like Nascar to me, but I do admit this title does look pretty.

I definitely agree that this title has to be the best simulation of F1 that I have personally played so far (speaking from the demo of course).

[Edit] Sorry VG, Sparking old flames here. I need to keep up with posts dates. :lol:

[VG Aficionado]

Guru, I wonder if you bothered to look at the dates of the posts in the previous pages of this thread.

I'm very glad your animosity towards Wounding gives you the leg up on how I, an American, thinksNow that is a very fair statement. I didn't know I had such an influence on Sony to prevent the US from getting the latest F1 games for PlayStation systems in the last few years!

[EvilTaru]

Amazing crashes over here guys. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0vl8u_DWbI&mode=user&search=)

Cell = King of physics.

What what what? This ain't Motorstorm!!!http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v500/EvilTaru/bunny.gif

[GTAce]

I personally don't give a rats ass about F1 becuase it's just like Nascar to me,

Oh i dont like F1 (in real life) too (NASCAR is one of my favorite motorsports) .
But i must say as a videogame, its fun!
Its like Golf or Tennis, i dont like to watch it but on a console its just fun. 8)

[GTShotoKen]

Guru, I wonder if you bothered to look at the dates of the posts in the previous pages of this thread.

Now that is a very fair statement. I didn't know I had such an influence on Sony to prevent the US from getting the latest F1 games for PlayStation systems in the last few years!

Nope. :lol:

I should do that more often.

I forget how old these threads are sometimes.

Sorry for the misunderstanding. ;)

I'm still interested in this title though.

[GTShotoKen]

Oh i dont like F1 (in real life) too (NASCAR is one of my favorite motorsports) .
But i must say as a videogame, its fun!
Its like Golf or Tennis, i dont like to watch it but on a console its just fun. 8)

I prefer Formula Drift, but you are very right about videogames in that perspective.

Daytona USA is still one of my favorite arcade racers and Virtua Tennis is still my favorite sports game of all time.

I am still wondering how deep the single-player race campaign will be in this title?

[VG Aficionado]

I am still wondering how deep the single-player race campaign will be in this title?It has the full 2006 season and an additional track. It is a full sim with dynamic weather, crash physics, pit stop minigame, commentaries and so on. Couple that with 11 players (to say the least according to the latest news) online mode and it becomes a very interesting game!

[GTShotoKen]

It has the full 2006 season and an additional track. It is a full sim with dynamic weather, crash physics, pit stop minigame, commentaries and so on. Couple that with 11 players (to say the least according to the latest news) online mode and it becomes a very interesting game!

Damn, these devs are really taking this title seriously.

Maybe they could branch off into other sports too? :lol:

Well, it looks like I will be hijacking my friends PS3 again...:(

(Maybe E-mpire will be kind enough to start a fund raiser for me so I can fully enjoy this PS3 bliss...?)