Saint's Row Slamming Onto PS3

[Pumpkin Head]

US retailer suggests THQ and Volition's GTA wannabe is on the way to the PS3 soon...
Author: Chris Leyton | Date Added: 12/01/2007

The appearance of a PlayStation3 version of THQ's Saint's Row on the EB Games website will hardly come as a revelation, given the multi-format stance typically employed by the third-party publisher.

No further details were offered about the port, though surely there will have to be something extra to tempt PS3 owners months after the release of the Xbox 360 version.
http://www.newsnow.co.uk/cgi/NGoto/181576653?-10919

[totobeni]

i hate that game (i am a GTA fan) but alot of gamers love it..more games = good for PS3 ( and -1 x360 exclusive )

[curryking1]

It's pretty much a fact that this won't even come close to the caliber that the next GTA game will be. This is just a super clean and sharp version of GTA VCS, and.. you can make your own character. Wow, big whoop.

It's not even a poor man's GTA because it was sold at normal retail price. It's a suckers GTA, and no one wants to suck right? lol.

GTA will piss on this game from such a height it will be simply stupid.

[ddaryl]

Oh yay another crappy port of an Xbox 360 game.

I like volition but they are not talented enough to pull off a port of any of their games that will surpass the original. If they can't make the PS3 version significantly better then IMO don't bother.


I won't buy it

[VideoGame mania]

GTA is the king and no one can top Rockstar.So it's -3 exclusives SC:DA, Enchanted Arms, Saints' Row.Money do the talking here.

[totobeni]

GTA is the king and no one can top Rockstar.So it's -3 exclusives SC:DA, Enchanted Arms, Saints' Row.Money do the talking here.

no...-4 exclusives ...add "The Elder Scrolls Oblivion" to your list ...

[julps31]

Lol stop complaining people...this is NOT bad news. I love GTA too but if Saints was formally a PS3 exclusive going to x-box instead of hearing "GTA is a much better game...big deal", we'd be hearing "how many more exclusives can PS3 loose?" and "Sony is making huge mistakes by loosing these exclusives" lol. Not to mention I never played it but i've heard its a good game. Regardless of if the next-gen GTA will be much better or not.

[Raijin]

GTA is the king and no one can top Rockstar.So it's -3 exclusives SC:DA, Enchanted Arms, Saints' Row.Money do the talking here.

Seriously, you people have to stop with that crap. We could the same with the PS3 "so-so" exclusives but quite frankly, I would bring nothing on the table.

[VideoGame mania]

no...-4 exclusives ...add "The Elder Scrolls Oblivion" to your list ...

there are probably even more, I wouldn't be suprised if Bioshock slams the PS3 later after x360 version :queer:

[VideoGame mania]

Seriously, you people have to stop with that crap. We could the same with the PS3 "so-so" exclusives but quite frankly, I would bring nothing on the table.

Who is "we" ?
So-so? interesting the game got 8,8.5 and average 8 score

[GTAce]

Hmm Saints Row has a online multiplayer is that correct?
Maybe a cool game to lend or something.

[curryking1]

Lol stop complaining people...this is NOT bad news. I love GTA too but if Saints was formally a PS3 exclusive going to x-box instead of hearing "GTA is a much better game...big deal", we'd be hearing "how many more exclusives can PS3 loose?" and "Sony is making huge mistakes by loosing these exclusives" lol. Not to mention I never played it but i've heard its a good game. Regardless of if the next-gen GTA will be much better or not.

Honestly, I just have something against this game. That's seriously how I feel. They simply took GTA and copied it, it's as simple as that. It doesn't deserve to be measured on it's own merits where it takes 99% of it's design from only one other game.

And secondly, stop counting exclusives lost for X system, that's just dumb. That's being as dumb as any other fanboy. Ya ok, the 360 lost an exclusive, it's not something you need to party over though, jeez. It's disappointing that I can actually see you two being 'happy' for the loss of an exclusive on one side moreso than the PS3 getting another game.

You two are being fricking lame.

[julps31]

And secondly, stop counting exclusives lost for X system, that's just dumb. That's being as dumb as any other fanboy. Ya ok, the 360 lost an exclusive, it's not something you need to party over though, jeez. It's disappointing that I can actually see you two being 'happy' for the loss of an exclusive on one side moreso than the PS3 getting another game.

You two are being fricking lame.Huh? You directing that at me?^ I don't know where your coming from. Or was that at VG mania and totobeni? I know where your coming from with the GTA clone part though.

[curryking1]

^No no! those other two guys. VG Mani and Toto, you're right.

[julps31]

Oh okay. Just making sure lol.

[jaxmkii]

Oh yay another crappy port of an Xbox 360 game.
I won't buy it
QFT! stuff like this reminds me off all the crappy DC games i bought for the PS2 durring the first year.

[VG Aficionado]

Will they add flying to the PS3 version now that they have a standard HDD to rely on? ;)

Meh, I doubt I'll want to buy this one in any case.

[raVen]

were also getting condemned 2

[8_Bit]

I wonder if we get all the bugs, too.

http://www.cabel.name/2006/12/buggy-saints-row-musical.html

(scroll down to play movie. funny.)

[casualkiss]

Killing hookers is not my thing (Mercenaries is way more fun IMHO) but I must give kudos to Saint's Row map system. Huge improvement over GTA!

[[[tavis]]]

i love this game, hope some of the ps3 loyal fanbase can get this. def a fun ass game.

[Grovestreet]

no...-4 exclusives ...add "The Elder Scrolls Oblivion" to your list ...

Was never Exclusive in the first place. And Im guessing none of ya's have played Saints Row, It freaking rocks, Gameplay is fun, Especially with the ragdoll physics, Taking over gang turfs has never been funner, Plenty of side missions to do, Way better than the side missions in any of the GTA's, A must buy if you ask me.
And secondly, stop counting exclusives lost for X system, that's just dumb. That's being as dumb as any other fanboy. Ya ok, the 360 lost an exclusive, it's not something you need to party over though, jeez. It's disappointing that I can actually see you two being 'happy' for the loss of an exclusive on one side moreso than the PS3 getting another game.

You two are being fricking lame.

Yeah right about that, They have a nice celebration if the 360 loses an exclusive, But if the PS3 loses an exclusive they bring some excuse up...Honestly...Both sides of the war should just Enjoy their systems, If a console loses an Exclusive, Fine! both consoles can enjoy the same games with no freaking arguing.

[lips]

gta was cool when it came out. then when gta 2 came out, we were impressed, seriously. Then it became 3d, gta3, and we all were like, the series deserves anouther play. then gta 3.1, 3.2, 3.3, 3.4 and so on. seriously how daft do you think we are to give a living daft about a anouther gta, or anouther imatation. it seems THQ challenges us yet by producing software no one actually wants.

[Applefiend]

That's the thing isn't it about GTA, in order to build a giant streaming world on a PS2 takes a lot of smart coding, on a 360 or PS3... Not so much smart coding, especially on a machine with mandatory hard drive.

So everybody is doing it.

To make Saint's Row:

Take GTA Vice City
Remove 90% of the humor, cool missions, cool radio stations, licensed music, good control, and general rock* magic.
Add detailed graphics.
Add Physics
Add mediocre multiplayer

And that's Saint's Row. I'm not crazy about it, but it's a good time filler.

I think you're much better off playing Bully on PS2. Not lacking in the Rock* magic.

[curryking1]

Exactly Applefiend. It's almost a guarantee that GTA will be a whole generation ahead of Saints Row when it comes out basically. Saints Row copied a last gen game, and didn't even do a good job of that.

That's why I am saying GTA will be so beyond Saints Row. Saints Row might be a half decent game, but other than in graphics, physics and the stuff Applefiend just mentioned, it's very much a last gen title.

That's a definite +rep for you Apple lol.

[satriales]

Honestly, I just have something against this game. That's seriously how I feel. They simply took GTA and copied it, it's as simple as that. It doesn't deserve to be measured on it's own merits where it takes 99% of it's design from only one other game.

I share the exact same view(/vendetta ;))

They took the biggest selling PS2 game and tried to copy it for the xbox 360. In the end it had less features than GTA and lacked GTA's humour and style which is what made those games so fun.

I have nothing against GTA wannabe's, but Saint's Row is so similar I'm surprised Rockstar didn't sue them.

[bilbobob007]

I would just like to point out that it was fine for everyone to shout about VF5 no longer been exclusive on PS3. So why the hell is it not fine to cheer on a few losses in the M$ camp. Oh I know, we might start a round of flaming going. Hell its real easy to start a camp fire round here isn't it nowadays.

[Garfunkel]

this is good news but it is laughable next to GTA. Rockstar is planning something big with GTA4, something huge, i have been following them a lot, they said they have already scrapped their original ideas in place for something bigger.

GTA pwns all over this crap and Rockstar knows it. Rockstar invented this genre and still to this very day nobody has come close to doing what they do, GTA is a perfect mix and has been wildly successful.

It has also been confirmed that GTA4 will be based of RAGE (Rockstar advanced graphics engine) IE; their table tennis engine ;)

[Applefiend]

Yeah, that's the way I feel. Saint's Row, great 360 game because GTA4 is way off on the horizon, but by the time Saint's Row PS3 comes out, GTA3 may be only weeks away...

[curryking1]

@Yes_it's_me - Damn right you are lol. Again, the situation is...

1. Saint's Row tried to be a last gen game AND came short of last gen GTAs

2. Next Gen GTA... well, it'll actually be a next gen GTA, which is much better than a last gen GTA, which was also better than Saint's Row.

[Rai]

well at least 360 exclusives are going to PS3 now!

[masteratt]

This game annoyed me so much with "yo fuck yo fuck we are fucking fuck cool fuck yo fuck" attitude.

BUT if this comes out at a 'dull' time for PS3 games and if they fix the annoying pop-up issues it had on X360 AND if it's less than full price, I *MIGHT* buy it.

Other than that, no way in hell.

[Garfunkel]

This game annoyed me so much with "yo fuck yo fuck we are fucking fuck cool fuck yo fuck" attitude.

BUT if this comes out at a 'dull' time for PS3 games and if they fix the annoying pop-up issues it had on X360 AND if it's less than full price, I *MIGHT* buy it.

Other than that, no way in hell.

the devs tried to appeal to a less mature mind share.

GTA4 ain't long a way, October will be an awesome month of GTA goodness, i am also expecting the first real info and screens around may/april. But at the moment R* is staying uber quiet to stop their competitors coming within light years of their product.

[kaphwan]

i love this game, hope some of the ps3 loyal fanbase can get this. def a fun ass game.

When it (eventually) reaches Australia, I'll probably get it if the hiring out shows it to be awesome. It would be sweet if cross-online were possible; I can imagine gang wars between different profiles.

[Grovestreet]

@Yes_it's_me - Damn right you are lol. Again, the situation is...

1. Saint's Row tried to be a last gen game AND came short of last gen GTAs

2. Next Gen GTA... well, it'll actually be a next gen GTA, which is much better than a last gen GTA, which was also better than Saint's Row.

You like bashing games non stop dont you?

[Garfunkel]

well he does have a point...saints row is nothing compared to GTA.

[Grovestreet]

well he does have a point...saints row is nothing compared to GTA.

Played it? Its a good GTA style game to hold you over until GTA4 Comes around.

[VG Aficionado]

Honestly, what I've seen so far of SR makes me think it's a totally current gen game with a bit shinier graphics and lacking of the GTA feeling. I won't even consider it for a purchase.

Anyway, GTA is pretty much everything I need in terms of GTA-like games, just like FF games are pretty much everything I need in terms of RPG games.

[Garfunkel]

Played it? Its a good GTA style game to hold you over until GTA4 Comes around.

no i don't, and i don't plan to.

[Grovestreet]

no i don't, and i don't plan to.

Then your post is useless, You have no idea how the game is.

[Garfunkel]

Then your post is useless, You have no idea how the game is.

the general consensus agrees with me, no? so do most reviews I've read. If SR doesn't interest me much and GTA does then my post was perfectly reasonable.

[frosty]

I find it funny how s couple weeks ago it was all doom and gloom around here, and here we are littered with "360 lost this, 360 lost that" and a bunch of other positive news to boot. Goes to show that with a little patience, the picture can change dramatically in a very short time.

[masteratt]

Well those users who were caught up in the "doom and gloom for the ps3" picture should work for Microsoft because they clearly can't see past a week, if not a day.

And to me none of these X360 to PS3 titles are good because these titles were never good to begin with.
I didn't like them when they were on the X360 and I still don't like them when they are on the PS3 unless in this game's case, it meets the conditions my last post said.

It's interesting how my most looked forward to games are published by Sony. No wonder why I am buying a PS3.

3rd Parties look useless to me this year. X360 had a great support from 3rd Party for a year and the only game I want to play is Dead Rising. Wow....

[kaphwan]

I find it funny how s couple weeks ago it was all doom and gloom around here, and here we are littered with "360 lost this, 360 lost that" and a bunch of other positive news to boot. Goes to show that with a little patience, the picture can change dramatically in a very short time.

Someone will still probably spin this along the lines of "Sony needs to steal xbox360 exclusives" or something else which has no relation to the entire electromagnetic spectrum of reality, of which our human senses can detect less than one percent.

The hamster may be dead, but the wheel will still spin.

The Wheel Of Fanboy Spin.

[Grovestreet]

Well those users who were caught up in the "doom and gloom for the ps3" picture should work for Microsoft because they clearly can't see past a week, if not a day.

And to me none of these X360 to PS3 titles are good because these titles were never good to begin with.
I didn't like them when they were on the X360 and I still don't like them when they are on the PS3 unless in this game's case, it meets the conditions my last post said.

It's interesting how my most looked forward to games are published by Sony. No wonder why I am buying a PS3.

3rd Parties look useless to me this year. X360 had a great support from 3rd Party for a year and the only game I want to play is Dead Rising. Wow....

Crysis doesn't interest you?

[woundingchaney]

This is actually a very good acquisition for Sony. SR is a rather good game on its own and sold quite well in Europe. If the trend continues more titles may cross as well (Crackdown wouldnt necessarily be out of consideration either).

edit- other than the ones that already are

[curryking1]

Honestly, what I've seen so far of SR makes me think it's a totally current gen game with a bit shinier graphics and lacking of the GTA feeling. I won't even consider it for a purchase.

Anyway, GTA is pretty much everything I need in terms of GTA-like games, just like FF games are pretty much everything I need in terms of RPG games.

Same here man. Totally how I feel.

Also, I agree with Wounding. I know I'm not gonna be purchasing this game, I gave my reasons, they are the exact same as VG's, but every game pulls it's weight you know? So at least it's positive for the PS3 in that sense.

Nice to hear it did good in Europe, that's a strong plus for an acquisition of a game.

But again, no way in hell am I buying this when there's so much better stuff just around the corner. Personal preference, and I am very much a connoisseur.

EDIT: @Grovestreet - Do you want to make something personal? I didn't mean to offend you though, I apologize, I'm sure Saints Row, when comparing to nothing else, is a pretty good game. But again, my personal preference is to have the cream of the crop, and I still think that GTA will be a league beyond Saints Row, no matter how good that game is. And I'm damn sure a lot of people agree with me when almost every review calls Saints Row something short of GTA.

Don't throw half thought out doncha rhetoric at me, that kind of stuff really sparks my nerve.

[Applefiend]

SR was a lot better than I thought it would be, let's put it that way.

[OmniCloud]

Meh...

Good for Sony and getting a bigger fanbase...but I haven't touched a GTA since Vice City, and I won't touch this game with a 10 in. poll. Not even a rental. It's a game, and its made to be fun. But there's nothing funny/entertaining/comical about gangs/violence/bad neighborhoods.

I know, I sound like the guy who wants to end videogames, but it's seriously not entertaining at all for me. There is some substance behind all the cursing and foul language, but I could never get passed the initial phase.

I'll take an Epic adventure over Sandbox any day of the week. It' just seems like more thought and imagination goes into those types of games...

[curryking1]

I don't know about more thought, but it's more like the thoughts go to different strengths.

The adventure games you talk about, the 'thought' there goes into an epic story or character driven plots for underlying meaning.

The 'thought' in GTA goes into the silly humour and the satire and parodies of the American way of life.

I'm sure it takes just as much thinking to create an interesting story as it is to make such comedy out of taking American values to the extreme. And that's not all that GTA does (the story is pretty basic in SA, but entertaining, and Vice City's story was really exciting to see unfold), but a lot of the creative work stems from extreme left winged, right winged politics or extreme hillybillies and other stereotypes taken to the extreme.

I mean come on, how many hrs of hilarity is on the radio in SA on those talkshows? Inbetween the songs for radio stations, they even made a fictional group Love Fist and songs and an album for them. There is certainly a lot of creativity in GTA. Vice City I would say captured the 80s atmosphere unbelievably well, and the radio stations were a BIG part of that, as well as the Scarface-take-over-Miami vibe. And for SA, it's story about police abusing black Americans, and at the same time, during a early 90s timeline, they tailored a good story about corruption in police and gangbanging which was and still is very active in the US. They have to base it off of something realistic, I mean the setting is in the 90s. For a fantasy title you can go wild, but when you are putting yourself in historic times, you have to play by some rules with the story.

It's just the effort is directed to a different strength you know?

And I think everyone knows what I'll say Saint's Row doesn't have... so I'll stop there.

[Pluto]

I heard this game was a glitching paradise. [Kotaku even posted a compilation of some of the glitches.]

I sure hope the developers fix all of them when it's released on the PS3.

[OmniCloud]

I don't know about more thought, but it's more like the thoughts go to different strengths.

The adventure games you talk about, the 'thought' there goes into an epic story or character driven plots for underlying meaning.

The 'thought' in GTA goes into the silly humour and the satire and parodies of the American way of life.

I'm sure it takes just as much thinking to create an interesting story as it is to make such comedy out of taking American values to the extreme. And that's not all that GTA does (the story is pretty basic in SA, but entertaining, and Vice City's story was really exciting to see unfold), but a lot of the creative work stems from extreme left winged, right winged politics or extreme hillybillies and other stereotypes taken to the extreme.

I mean come on, how many hrs of hilarity is on the radio in SA on those talkshows? Inbetween the songs for radio stations, they even made a fictional group Love Fist and songs and an album for them. There is certainly a lot of creativity in GTA. Vice City I would say captured the 80s atmosphere unbelievably well, and the radio stations were a BIG part of that, as well as the Scarface-take-over-Miami vibe. And for SA, it's story about police abusing black Americans, and at the same time, during a early 90s timeline, they tailored a good story about corruption in police and gangbanging which was and still is very active in the US. They have to base it off of something realistic, I mean the setting is in the 90s. For a fantasy title you can go wild, but when you are putting yourself in historic times, you have to play by some rules with the story.

It's just the effort is directed to a different strength you know?

And I think everyone knows what I'll say Saint's Row doesn't have... so I'll stop there.Yeah...like I said, I did get into Vice City...but it's kinda worn out for me now...Maybe GTA5 will redefine the series again, it has been the same reworked engine for years now. Saints Row is just something to hold you till GTA.

[Garfunkel]

i still play all the gta games to this very day, i can hardly go a weeks without firing up VC or SA to give it another whirl.

I don't have a favourite, tied between SA and VC, VC had a better vibe and storyline and was just hilarious, SA was too but it didn't have the vibe VC had, but it was a technical masterpiece and had a huge map.

GTA3 was good to but not quite as good. But it was revolutionary.

All three make up my top three games of all time.

[curryking1]

I don't have a favourite, tied between SA and VC, VC had a better vibe and storyline and was just hilarious, SA was too but it didn't have the vibe VC had, but it was a technical masterpiece and had a huge map.

GTA3 was good to but not quite as good. But it was revolutionary.

Totally true say. I also only stopped playing GTA SA just recently. I'd constantly keep giving it whirls. Somehow playing FF XII has made SA very boring for me. I have no idea how that works.

Aye there man, VC was awesome. Atmosphere, style, all of that stuff was just perfect. SA didn't match it in those regards, but it got the control down better, especially with the right analog stick camera and manual aiming, and also ya, technically a masterpiece.

Yeah...like I said, I did get into Vice City...but it's kinda worn out for me now...Maybe GTA5 will redefine the series again, it has been the same reworked engine for years now. Saints Row is just something to hold you till GTA.

I only made that post because you said not as much thought goes into these sandbox games, GTA being one of them, so I thought I just throw that out there lol. I totally understand how you got in VC and not SA or whatever, the gang vibe of SA is of course not going to appeal to everyone lol, just like the 80s and Scarface won't appeal to everyone.

[F089/H]

I like Saints Row More than I like GTA..It's the other way around...Then Again I played Saints Row way before I ever played a GTA game..

[curryking1]

^Ya, it's harder to compare playing SR first then the GTAs because they're older. Best to wait til the next gen GTA to compare the two.

[Grovestreet]

Was never 360 exclusive in the first place anyway.

[curryking1]

^? Who was that in reply to? lol.

And anyways, everyone stop being ***king fanboys and going "O LOST EXCLUSIVE 1!!!11!" or being like "O.. it was nevar exclusive in the first place.."

This stupid bitching about exclusives is starting to piss me off. So please, for me, no more posts about what or what was, or isn't or will not be exclusive in this thread after my post, please!

Well you guys can talk about it going to other platforms, but don't argue about it! So frustrating! It's a stupid circle of an argument! It doesn't even matter!

[TheGreenElf]

Saints Row has some great ideas and I enjoy it more than GTA. I love how everyone is (in true fanboy fashion) "-1 for 360 exclusives!". Is that really what gaming is about?

[yoshaw]

^Thing is, this is just a backlash to what PS3 owners kept hearing over/before the period of christmas and launch.

Indeed, what goes around comes around. Don't look at me, >_> I read it in a book.

[TheGreenElf]

Be happy because a great game is coming to your system of choice, not because another system lost it is all I'm saying. But I agree with OmniCloud...these games take it out of hand.

[curryking1]

Saints Row has some great ideas and I enjoy it more than GTA. I love how everyone is (in true fanboy fashion) "-1 for 360 exclusives!". Is that really what gaming is about?

Don't say everyone, when it's not everyone, for me please ;). But I do agree with you, those who are doing it, it's pissing me off.

[Applefiend]

If I was to pick a 360 exclusive to nab it wouldn't be Saint's Row, wouldn't make the top 10.

But yeah, got both so I really don't care that much, other than PS3 needs the love more than 360.

[OG_Monkey]

Saints Row is oooooook.

[Shadow Voa]

This just proves that fanboyism and childishness go hand in hand. Instead of being greatful for the games that are coming out for the PS3, we see lots of people laughing at "1 less exclusive for xbots rofl!!1111".

Seriously, gamings about having fun, and if you are having more fun wanting other systems to lose exclusives... well you really are sad indeed.

[TheGreenElf]

Don't say everyone, when it's not everyone, for me please ;). But I do agree with you, those who are doing it, it's pissing me off.
Sorry, I have a bad habit of saying "everyone". If you see it in the future, I usually don't mean it literally. Apologies.

[frosty]

I'm curious about one thing. The developers said before the 360 game launched that they could not include aircraft in the game because they were unable to stream the data off of the disc to load textures and geometry fast enough to support flying. They said because there was no standard HDD, it wasn't possible. Now with the PS3, that is no longer the case.

[Kabbage]

This just proves that fanboyism and childishness go hand in hand. Instead of being greatful for the games that are coming out for the PS3, we see lots of people laughing at "1 less exclusive for xbots rofl!!1111".

Seriously, gamings about having fun, and if you are having more fun wanting other systems to lose exclusives... well you really are sad indeed.

I wonder why these kind of posts are never made when it is the PS3 losing an "exclusive" to the 360.

Defense Much?

And as for the GTA vs SR it boils down to a little something like this.

SR basically improved on what was supposed to be improved when you go from one generation to the next. It was a decent "play through and forget about it" game. Saints Row does nothing to elevate it above the GTA clone status. While Saints Row does some things well like a well thought out map system and the "First Gen" Next gen goodies, it fails when it comes to delivering a seamless experience. Things such as the Respect system especially slow down gameplay making advancing to the next mission a chore by having to do mindless tasks to fill your respect meter.

[TheGreenElf]

I wonder why these kind of posts are never made when it is the PS3 losing an "exclusive" to the 360.

Defense Much?

I've not paid attention to their posts. I'm not in there much and have never seen it. But if it does happen then again it's childish from both ends.

[curryking1]

@Kabbage - It might have to do with the fact there's not enough 'xbots' in this section to warrant anyone saying something to them when the PS3 loses an exclusive. But in the end, who the hell cares, the fanboys from all sides can all go ***k themselves and leave the game talking to the rest of us.

And trust me Kabbage, there's no need to get defensive for the Sony side either, however little it was. Almost all the posters on this board are sane, ShadowVoa seems to be one of them. I'm sure he, just as much as you, supports people not being assholes to promote X, Y, or Z system.

If I see people ripping on Sony for losing exclusives on this board and acting in the same manner, I'll guarantee you I'll rip the crap out of them.

[Sephiroth_VII]

^I can confirm that Shadow owns all 3 next-gen systems, a DS, and a PSP.

He's cool.

[Shadow Voa]

Like it or not Kabbage its your choice, but do not mistake me for some fanboy. I appreciate this generation as much as any gamer, I grew up Sony the same as you, and I own a PS3. But then as Seph stated, I own the other two consoles as well.

Curry nailed it with his promote X, Y, or Z system. I like to game, nothing more or less. I dont care what system it is on, if the game I want is there, then I'll play it. I just dont understand why the Sony fans have to act like the Xbots, and the same vice versa. Its never ending, its no longer about the games for some people, they take this news as personal and then defend the system they feel the most attached too.

Evil Taru says this more then I do, just play the games and stop worrying what others are saying! PS3 is doomed... means nothing. You let the FUD get in your head and this is the result, seriously if the news surrounding the PS3 is so bad, just dont read it.

[Fats]

I'm a bit late in this thread, but I'd like to say I don't see this as a great acquisition for Sony. I downloaded the Demo for the 360 and all in all, I found it to be a rather embarrassing game with nothing but swear words thrown in at every opportunity (Beating the shit out of Women at the start didn't really appeal to me either). Cringe worthy. Not only that, but it's clearly a rip-off of the GTA series, it's rather uncanny.

Not my cup of Tea at all really.

[venomv]

I played it 2 days ago, I didn't like it much, the best part about the game is the car customization, and that's sad....

[curryking1]

I wonder what game that car customizing carried over from lol!

I should stop posting in this thread... I think I will lol.

[Garfunkel]

they copied it from NFS underground.

not that that's a bad thing, nfs sucks now, stupid carbon/

[kaphwan]

objective market analysis

(2:59 PM) Carmine!!!: hey
(3:00 PM) Jeremy: what's doing?
(3:00 PM) Carmine!!!: xbox
(3:01 PM) Jeremy: 360?
(3:01 PM) Carmine!!!: yeah
(3:01 PM) Jeremy: i have to get one of those
(3:02 PM) Jeremy: how much is live a month?
(3:02 PM) Carmine!!!: lol
(3:02 PM) Carmine!!!: dunno
(3:02 PM) Carmine!!!: i pay 80 a year
(3:02 PM) Jeremy: saints row any good?
(3:03 PM) Carmine!!!: nah
(3:03 PM) Jeremy: so what is good on 360 that i should buy?
(3:03 PM) Carmine!!!: i dunno
(3:03 PM) Carmine!!!: what games you like?
(3:03 PM) Jeremy: um
(3:03 PM) Jeremy: fps, rpg
(3:03 PM) Jeremy: other things i can type with 3 letters
(3:04 PM) Carmine!!!: get gow
(3:04 PM) Carmine!!!: gears of war

[OmniCloud]

fellas...this forum is pretty balanced with guys to correct each other when we get outta control so just cool out...There are some fanboys, some posters who don't think before they write something up, but there's still those posters who comes criticizes and set things straight as well. I think we have a pretty good system on PSINEXT.


Sony should really make all the PSP GTA games PS download titles.. Why haven't they done this yet:huh:

[Kabbage]

Like it or not Kabbage its your choice. You say that like I dont own any other system .

And like what or not may I ask? High horse much? I am also still wondering how you managed to extrapolate all of those feeling from a 1 line post is beyond me.

-1 Exclusive for Xbox360

[kaphwan]

A one line post is the most likely thing to be misconstrued, because you aren't really saying what you feel about an issue.

[rob the slob]

Damn guys. Why the hate for this game? I own this game on 360 and I'm having a total blast with it. I hope you guys give this game a chance cause I was once a hater but playing the actual game changed my mind. I hope PS3 gamers give this game a chance cause it would suck not to get a sequel on PS3 cause the first sold poorly. Sure its not original, but it is fun as heck and thats all that should matter to gamers.

Another thing that gets to me is hearing the GTA fans whine like little girls. I mean if you enjoy GTA and sandbox games, then SR should be right up your alley.

[venomv]

Why the hate? Because it was rental and me and my XBox fanboy (self-proclaimed) freind were bored to death the first night.....

[VG Aficionado]

Damn guys. Why the hate for this game? I own this game on 360 and I'm having a total blast with it. I hope you guys give this game a chance cause I was once a hater but playing the actual game changed my mind. I hope PS3 gamers give this game a chance cause it would suck not to get a sequel on PS3 cause the first sold poorly. Sure its not original, but it is fun as heck and thats all that should matter to gamers.I don't see hate, it's just that we dislike it (greatly). And we have a number of reasons to do it:

I downloaded the Demo for the 360 and all in all, I found it to be a rather embarrassing game with nothing but swear words thrown in at every opportunity (Beating the shit out of Women at the start didn't really appeal to me either). Cringe worthy. Not only that, but it's clearly a rip-off of the GTA series, it's rather uncanny.Damn, is that supposed to be fun? I'm staying the hell away from this game.

[Z]

not many games can pull this off. some even lost some GTA appreciation.
let's see what GTA4 has to offer and can it really prove it isn't 'just another GTA clone'. ;)

[Garfunkel]

I am expecting great, unimaginable things from GTA4.

[VG Aficionado]

For whoever cares:

Whats new for the PS3 version?

* 2 new cars
* 70 new customization options, such as Santa Claus gear
* 2 new mutiplayer maps

I got this for my PSMI guess scans are coming soon.

[LA the Darkman]

For whoever cares:

I guess scans are coming soon.You do know those "exclusive content on disc" is coming to the 360 via XBL, right?

BTW, how's fl0w coming along?

[frosty]

Actually, it isn't. you see, the devs said that because 360 doesn't have a standard HDD, they couldn't include aircraft in the game because they couldn't stream the data fast enough off the DVD. So, with PS3 having a standard HDD, they now can.

And fl0w is coming along nicely, it releases in a couple weeks.

[masteratt]

Woo.
No HDD to use, only 9GB (not even that) space.

What will happen to X360?

Don't worry, I am sure Microsoft won't ask you to buy another new console so soon ;)

[OmniCloud]

Just downloaded Crackdown demo yesterday. I gotta say-these games are becoming more and more bland with every iteration. Utter crap, I hate mindless-free roaming violence. I already did this 3 years ago with GTA!

How long are devs gonna keep milking it?

[Domination]

You do know those "exclusive content on disc" is coming to the 360 via XBL, right?

BTW, how's fl0w coming along?

I'm not so sure about that, but if they were to do this I would probably be a bit disgusted by their direction. Think about it: you pay $60 for a premature title just to be charged for the extras available at no additional cost on another platform.

[curryking1]

Just downloaded Criminal Crackdown demo yesterday. I gotta say-these games are becoming more and more bland with every iteration. Utter crap, I hate mindless-free roaming violence. I already did this 3 years ago with GTA!

How long are devs gonna keep milking it?

It's just called Crackdown I think lol. Apparently one of the makers of GTA is working on it.

[OmniCloud]

It's just called Crackdown I think lol. Apparently one of the makers of GTA is working on it.When is it gonna stop?! It's the same friggin thing over and over again? Who keeps buying these games?!!!!?!

[frosty]

There's a Criminal Crackdown, which is a PSN download title, and then there's crackdown, which is a x360 game IIRC.

[jaxmkii]

When is it gonna stop?! It's the same friggin thing over and over again? Who keeps buying these games?!!!!?!

undercover cop and freinds!

[Applefiend]

Yer man David Jaffe hit the nail on the head. The games are great but... samey.

From PS3 we expect great but unsamey.

[curryking1]

When is it gonna stop?! It's the same friggin thing over and over again? Who keeps buying these games?!!!!?!

Well... I'll be completely honest. Last gen I was ready to pick up every GTA title after I played GTA III. I don't have GTA III but I bought GTA VC and SA right when they were released.

There are a lot of things to like about the games, I could name so many hilarious conversations or in-jokes, the radio editing that lets you listen to the best parts of so many songs, simply how big the world is and the driving model is incredibly fun, I end up driving around for 30 min at a time thinking about nothing else but going literally anywhere, I just have fun driving.

However, I will accept the fact that this game sells on 2 things, it's in a big city, and you can blow shit up. If it was missing either or, it wouldn't be as popular regardless what other features were added or dropped.

Finally, the reason I am going to get GTA IV... if you look and peer into the things that GTA SA brought to the table last gen and then see how much more opportunity there is too improve upon so many means of interactivity and how many more interactive things you can have in next gen... well ya, that's what is making me buy it. GTA SA's interactivity was HUGE for last gen, and it was a HUGE game.

Knocking down small trees in forests, going to clubs for minigame dancing just for kicks, buying soda pop/snacks to regen health from outdoor machines or in buildings (like 24/7 stores), buying hots dogs from hot dog stands, go to fast food chains , jumping off buildings and from planes with parachutes, cutting a car door off with a chainsaw, fire spreading when there is fire made, going swimming in the ocean (hahaha), minigame delivery missions, ambulance missions, vigilante police missions, other side missions like time trials for distances or in small areas with interesting environments (eg one was in a half pipe esque thing with a motorcycle), doing destruction derbies, climbing a mountain, literally which takes like 3 or 4 min with a fast dirtbike, go do races whenever you want, steal a freight train, climb on top of houses (best addition to the gameplay btw, being able to climb stuff, jump high fences the same way, etc.), cool weather effects like the fog (looked cool, but unrealistic lol, it was all grey but there were puffs of 'fog' lol, but it looked good graphically), rpg elements where you 'level up' your ability with weapons, you can eat to get health back, you can even get fat, you can work out and get buff but slower, learn new melee moves, put nitro on your car, special paintjobs, put hydraulics on various cars like limos and go to 'bouncing' parties as a minigame, they even had 2 player and you could just go around the world and fight enemies like gangs and police together!!! make a chain of tow trucks, tow other cars, put cars onto a truck and bring them places (although this feature was glitchy) lots of crap to do.

And some of the missions are hella fun too, lots of action packed stuff, racing cars, they made the shooting much better and it was a lot more intuitive fighting against enemy gangs or the police if need be, fun weapons too

I love to imagine the possibilities that GTA IV has in store, it's just wild to think about.

But again, the game does sell on it's city setting and violent nature. Many people just have fun going around and punching people and yes, there are people who just have that mindless 'fun' of killing everything. It's a perfectly valid criticism of the game simply because the game gives you the avenue to do it. Without it the game would feel very constrained and awkward, but that's not to say that I fancy doing it. There's something about having the option to do it make the game feel a lot more open, so I have a very weird opinion on the issue. I don't personally take fun in just killing everyone though, I find it stupid. I actually try not to kill people, when I'm driving I always try to avoid running down people lol. Killing senselessly is not a me thing, but for some odd reason I appreciate that it's there just 'to be able to do it but not actually do it' kind of way. It's really hard to explain.

Just to be clear though, I'm not defending the game letting you be able to do that.

Also, the reason I haven't gotten into the other GTA-esque games is because they only have the violence. They have none of the scale, interactivity (like I listed above), music, and a rough story to keep you entertained and continue, and simply overall appeal that GTA has. The only other GTA style game worth playing is Mafia, but if you actually play it, it's not really a GTA-esque game, it just has a big city which is really awesome and a very, very amazingly well done linear path. Every game that has tried to emulate GTA to try and be the same as GTA has failed miserably because it's missing a lot of the additional qualities that GTA has. Crackdown will sell 3 million max. I highly doubt much more.

[OmniCloud]

Great post Curry;) I won't deny GTA as a great game-because it surely is. I think I almost beat GTA3 and got pretty far in VC. After playing those games however, I cannot agree with you more that the other titles are just lacking the full-GTA experience. I'm judging Crackdown on a demo admittedly, but it just doesn't "feel" like it's adding a great deal more than what GTA already accomplished. And there's no denying Rockstar's charm that is apparent in every game. These titles should never hit the million mark darnit! Lair, Alan Wake, Heavenly Sword, Flow, Viva Pinata, Wario Ware, Smash Brothers, Warhwawk, man...why aren't people buying the REAL games:huh: There's so many awesome experiences on PS2 that many people wouldn't even look twice at because there isn't a gun or sword on the cover.

Hmm...maybe my disapproval isn't at the game developers so to speak-but the western audience for embracing such garbage and pushing MS to continue to push towards games that appeal to the demographic. Just Sucks...

but I guess this is why we have Sony and Nintendo:)

[NeoPlayStation]

THQ to Bring Award-Winning Saints Row(TM) to PLAYSTATION(R)3 System (http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/stories.pl?ACCT=104&STORY=/www/story/01-31-2007/0004516714&EDATE=)

AGOURA HILLS, Calif., Jan. 31 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- THQ Inc.
(Nasdaq: THQI) today announced its critically acclaimed, next-generation
property Saints Row(TM) is scheduled to make its PLAYSTATION(R)3 computer
entertainment system debut this spring, featuring stunning next-generation
graphics, extensive customization options and unparalleled player choice.
Developed by renowned internal studio Volition, Inc., Saints Row brings the
hugely popular open-world genre to Sony's new console for the first time
and will mark the first open world online experience available through the
PLAYSTATION(R) Network.

[kaphwan]

But they're bringing it to the PlayStation3.

It isn't "next-gen property" yet.

[curryking1]

These titles should never hit the million mark darnit! Lair, Alan Wake, Heavenly Sword, Flow, Viva Pinata, Wario Ware, Smash Brothers, Warhwawk, man...why aren't people buying the REAL games:huh: There's so many awesome experiences on PS2 that many people wouldn't even look twice at because there isn't a gun or sword on the cover.

Well, GTA does get all that media exposure simply from being GTA and being 'controversial.' I mean how much more exposure can you give to a videogame? GTA is almost as well known as Mario but for so very different reasons. I mean violent and well known? You can't get better market exposure than that basically unless you added a heap of sex or The Da Vinci Code on top.

Hopefully we can depend on more people getting into videogames and more people seeing there are more games than GTA on the three biggie platforms.

And besides, there's always Gran Turismo 5 to kick GTA in the nuts in terms of sales ;) Gran Turismo is both the PS3 saviour as well as my saviour for restoring my faith in... people hahaha.

[jaxmkii]

And besides, there's always Gran Turismo 5 to kick GTA in the nuts in terms of sales Gran Turismo is both the PS3 saviour as well as my saviour for restoring my faith in... people hahaha.

you know why GT rocks?...

it has class. its a reperesention of the lifestyle of racing not like everyother game out there that is a popculture interipitation of racing. *looks over at PGR and NFS*

[Rai]

yup its been OFFICIALLY confirmed...360 lost an exclusive to PS3...

[agentorange]

hopefully will see that flying sequence that they cannot do with xbox because of the size of dvd is not enough

[frosty]

it's not the size of the DVD, it's the fact that they cannot read the data off it fast enough. PS3 has a hard drive it can copy the data to and it can read fast enough to support flying.

[Killing Moon]

its a reperesention of the lifestyle of racing not like everyother game out there that is a popculture interipitation of racing. *looks over at PGR and NFS*
'err...what?

[Red_Eyes]

I'll wait for the next GTA.