PS3 and Linux

[frosty]

I'm curious what the Linux attach rate is around here. Cast your votes.

[Sephiroth_VII]

I use Ubuntu for my PC, and plan to use either it or YDL on my PS3 when I get it sometime this week.
King Windows is dead, long live Emperor Linus Torvalds!!

[Garfunkel]

Hey frosty killed my post! but put the extra options in. lol

Anyway, yes, i use Linux on my PC, have used many distros but currently use Ubuntu, my first love and seems to be my true love.

I will of course instlall either it or another distro on ps3 when i get one.

[frosty]

Had to delete the old one to add new options.

[CreativeWriter]

I'd like to use Linux, but I don't have a spare 2.5 HD around. When I get one or when my 20GB fills up, I'll venture into Linux. Hopefully by then (6 months or so) we'll have RSX support or at least something unofficial...

[Garfunkel]

I'd like to use Linux, but I don't have a spare 2.5 HD around. When I get one or when my 20GB fills up, I'll venture into Linux. Hopefully by then (6 months or so) we'll have RSX support or at least something unofficial...

Mate, if you are interested in Linux but don't want to lose your windows stuff don't worry, if you PM me i will show you an easy way to set up Linux in a "dual boot" with windows, making it possible to have a pretty little menu that allows you to select which os you want at startup, you will not lose any windows data at all.

That goes for everyone!

EDIT: just realised you were talking about ps3, not pc, but you can follow xbd's guide to install Linux on your ps3 as well.

[yoshaw]

I don't use it yet. So my vote obviously was the last choice on the poll.

Although, you bet installing linux will be one the first things I do with my PS3 besides securing a PSN username, games n movie viewing.

[Garfunkel]

come on you "I do not use Linux" guys! what are you, chicken! braak braak!

*eyes pointed squarely at Yoshaw*

[VG Aficionado]

I'm really looking forward to using Linux on PS3. I've tried a number of distros on my PC and I haven't decided yet which one to settle for. YDL looks like a winner to me, as it will be a distro that is somehow optimised for the system it's going to run on. It will also allow me to learn more about Linux since the job I'm starting next week will require using it from time to time and the more I know the better, even though I have some basic Linux knowledge already.

There's even a chance that my PS3 becomes my main PC as I really don't need my Windows PC for daily tasks.

[Garfunkel]

*vg considers switching too* *YIM tries to convince him* :)

how about a nice dual boot vg? *runs*

[ollin]

I have Linux installed in my PS3. I don't use it at all lately. Not much experience with Linux so I really should buy a Linux for Dummies book.

[Garfunkel]

do you want me to give you one? most are distro specific but i can get you a general one and post it here if you like.

[VG Aficionado]

how about a nice dual boot vg? *runs*Actually, I never liked messing with HDD partitions as I've always feared committing some stupid mistake or suffering some partition software failure and lose a lot of data. I've seen too many people messing up and despite all of the research I've done regarding partitions and dual booting, I won't be trying that with my own PC anytime soon at the risk of losing important data.

As a matter of fact, when I built my PC two years ago, I bought two hard drives with the sole purpose of installing a different OS on each one, in order to not having to rely on dual boot. I ended up experimenting a bit on one of them and right now I'm not going to try anything again until I find the Linux distro I'm really looking for. Right now, I only use the secondary HDD for backups and even for installing some applications to prevent further fragmenting on the main OS HDD. I'm not doing a RAID since they're different sizes, even though I'm aware that doesn't necessarily prevent me from doing some RAID activities.

[Sephiroth_VII]

It's easy, VG. Even I can do it.

[yoshaw]

come on you "I do not use Linux" guys! what are you, chicken! braak braak!

*eyes pointed squarely at Yoshaw*

LOL I hear ya mate. I have seen Suse Linux with XGL interface on my friends laptop. Lemme tell you, that thing was GORGEOUS to browse n all! Which got me into linux somewhat. Sorry, if I seem to be on the 'I do not use Linux' list. I will try it out someday no doubt :pleased:

[Coded-Dude]

whats linux?

[masteratt]

I will use Linux once I get the PS3 but the poll doesn't have that option :rant:

[dockthepod]

I used to be a big linux guy (debian , then gentoo), but once I got a mac I had a hard time going back. I'm going to install gentoo on my ps3 this weekend though.

[Shadow Voa]

I do not use Linux, nor plan on using it in the future on either PC or PS3.

[CrumCon]

i only use Linux when Windows crashed and has to be reinstalled, if that happens.. i boot up linux and copy all my files from C: to other partitions

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[ollin]

do you want me to give you one? most are distro specific but i can get you a general one and post it here if you like.
I probably won't have time to play around with the Linux on the PS3. Even then I really dont want to brick the console. ^^;

[satriales]

My PS3 will be here within a week :)
I do plan on giving Linux a go, but was just curious what exactly will I be able to do in Linux on my PS3 that I can't do with my XP PC?

I know people will say Linux is better than Windows (and I don't doubt that it is), but I'm not going to be getting rid of my PC so what advantage will installing Linux give me?

Basically should I wait until applications start to utilize the PS3 a bit better or is there already some really cool stuff I can do?
Is it possible to download 1080P video and play it with the PS3?
My PC can struggle sometimes with 1080P video and if the PS3 can do it easily that would probably convince me to install linux.
Any other cool stuff it can do?

Sorry if this is the wrong place to ask, I haven't voted yet but I'm interested in using Linux I just wonder whether I'd gain anything by doing so.

[Coded-Dude]

what do you use your PC for?
Note: the only setback to using PS3 over a PC is memory availability.

[satriales]

what do you use your PC for?
Note: the only setback to using PS3 over a PC is memory availability.
Mainly surfing the internet, playing poker and downloading videos (It's the only way I can see 24 :)) I have my PC connected to my new 42" 1080P TV and that is where my PS3 will also live. If Linux on the PS3 was pretty good at things like Video editing/decoding then that would be another thing I'd be interested in as my PC is quite slow at that.

I think I'll probably give it a go anyway. It's the sort of thing I'd like to learn to use just for the sake of it and I'm sure I'll find something it does that is really useful.

[Coded-Dude]

PS3 Linux will do MOST of that with ease.

You will hit a few roadblocks with video support.
I.E. - No codecs, Video format not supported, or not yet working on CELL Linux
(you'd need quite a bit of memory to do intensive video editing)

[Garfunkel]

come on vg! if you want to give linux a shot i can assure you i can show you how to dual boot with no chance of corruption or parttion table corruption. But i won't preasure you. :)

Another thing is, if you are interested in using Linux on the ps3, you might find it easier learning it on the pc and then migrating to the ps3.

This is what OmniCloud did and seems to be enjoying himself. ;)

[OmniCloud]

^U bet man! Linux is quite awesome...I'm in love with Ubuntu...and don't plan on going back to windows....uh...ever...

I don't have a PS3 yet, but I do plan on putting Ubuntu or Kubuntu on there once I get it...Then again... I might just use the standard OS and simply have my PS3 as my media hub....Either way...I will definitely try out Linux on PS3 when I get one. And I will probably always use Linux on my regular PC.

Can't wait till the get a standard Distro fellas!! Can you imagine having 3D desktop...applets...squiggily tabs...and all the good stuff right on an Easy simple set up DVD=-o

btw-Kubuntu's automatic wallpaper switch is the best thing that ever happened to Desktops!

[frosty]

So as it stands over half of PSINext'ers polled are Linux users.


"Mr. Gates, we have a problem..."

[Garfunkel]

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=beryl&search=Search

That my friends, is Linux.

@frosty, i am going to single handedly get everyone on this website using Linux. (or heaps of people anyway)

@omni, just tell me when you want to set up beryl and i'll show you how. ;)

[OmniCloud]

^I have my Ubuntu back-up disc..PM me whenever your ready!

[stumblz]

can anyone help me install beryl with ubuntu. i have never install any OS other than windows and i want to get familiar with it before i install one on my ps3. thank you ^^

[Garfunkel]

my my my, yet more interest, my evil plot is unfolding. ;)

[stumblz]

yes, please liberate me. lol!

[Garfunkel]

i will pm you.

[Smokey]

ill be using my pc (windows) to continue to browse the internet :)

what is Ubuntu YIM

[Sephiroth_VII]

It's the most popular Linux distro, and the one YIM forced me to use;)

It's very easy and straightforward.

[frosty]

It's really looking like Linux users outnumber windows users around here! That's great news! I'm going to take the data from this poll and make some more polls around the forums, and use all the collective data to make an e-mpire linux penetration chart. These are the stats I'm looking to gather...

How many total use linux

How many use it on PC

How many use it on PS3

How many started using it with PS3

How many already used it for PS3.

And just for reference...

How many use windows

How many are considering switching from windows or other OS.

How many use another operating system (OSX, etc.)

[Garfunkel]

GREAT IDEA FROSTY!!! excellent! If you need help on that, i will be glad to help!

@Smokey777:

Ubuntu is one of the most popular Linux distributions, it is one of the most easy to use for newbs as well, that's why i recommend (or as seph says, "force";)) new users to use Ubuntu when venturing into LInux.

[xbdestroya]

It's really looking like Linux users outnumber windows users around here!

Well now wait a minute, what this poll measures is who uses Linux in any shape or form; and in that sense, the majority of respondents *do* use Linux. But we didn't have any Windows option, y'know? :)

I would *think* that Windows use still outmeasures Linux use here, even among these respondents.

[Garfunkel]

do you use Linux XBD? just out of interest :)

[xbdestroya]

Well, I use it on my PS3 and I have a seperate Linux machine, but I mean... I'm on a Windows machine at this moment, y'know? :smoke:

[frosty]

I know he does on his PS3. And I'm not interested yet in how many also use windows, just in how many use Linux. I'll do a windows vs. linux poll later. Of course people will stick with their windows boxes for now, but if linux awareness is as present as this poll suggests, it won't be long before linux becomes well supported enough to overthrow windows.

[Garfunkel]

linux becomes well supported enough to overthrow windows.

won't be long now....

[Garfunkel]

I thought I would post this here as many users seem to be confused about Linux support on the PS3.

http://news.softpedia.com/news/Sony-PlayStation-3-support-in-Linux-Kernel-41985.shtml


Sony has added new patches into the stable 2.6.20 Linux kernel tree, which furthermore, adds machine-specific features for the new PlayStation 3 gaming console.
The patches should greatly simplify the maintenance of the Linux kernels for the PlayStation 3, which is already supported by Yellow Dog Linux, thanks to a development deal between Sony and TerraSoft, and a special version of Fedora Core 5.

Starting with the 2.6.13 release, the Linux kernel has gained generic support for the Cell processor, on which the PlayStation 3 gaming console is based, but the new patches add machine-specific support for technology such as the PlayStation 3's memory architecture, DMA (direct memory access) model, and SMP (symmetric multiprocessing) model. The code for the patches has been written by Sony.

The newly added kernel patches will make supporting the PlayStation 3 under Linux much simpler, because when creating kernels for the machine, there will be no need to apply external patches, which can complicate the kernel build process, or even lead to conflicts, if there are more than one set of patches applied to the kernel.


I hope that clears up a few things :)

[VG Aficionado]

That sounds interesting, YIM! What implications could that bring? :)

[Garfunkel]

basically, almost ANY PPC distro will work out of the box with the ps3. it will take a while to become mainstream but some distros are going to use the 2.6.20 kernel very soon, including ubuntu feisty.

EDIT: if you can't find a distro you like VG, you might like ubuntu ;)

[VG Aficionado]

Well, that's great! :hugegrin:

[Garfunkel]

there are exciting times ahead but the biggest question of all is "will nvidia/sony provide drivers/support for RSX?" - i hope so.

[VG Aficionado]

EDIT: if you can't find a distro you like VG, you might like ubuntu ;)It was one of the first ones I tried, my mouse didn't work :loser:

[Garfunkel]

is your kb/m usb or ps2 or IR or BT?

[VG Aficionado]

is your kb/m usb or ps2 or IR or BT?BT through USB hub. It worked in Fedora, but Fedora had the keyboard configuration messed up. I couldn't write anything properly during installation in Spanish or English!

[Garfunkel]

hmmm, i will see if i can find some help for that.

[Smokey]

GREAT IDEA FROSTY!!! excellent! If you need help on that, i will be glad to help!

@Smokey777:

Ubuntu is one of the most popular Linux distributions, it is one of the most easy to use for newbs as well, that's why i recommend (or as seph says, "force";)) new users to use Ubuntu when venturing into LInux.

thanks
how different is it to look at in computer? im so used to windows (i always heard linux is teh ugly, i know i want a pretty screen) but id be willing to give it a go if i dont like i can go back & start again :) can you send me a link to Ubuntu and a easy install process to boot :) lol

[Sephiroth_VII]

I experienced a real miracle today going from XP to Ubuntu Linux. On XP, my nVidia 6600 GTX had trouble running 720p stuff. Now I can watch 1080p movies without any hiccups!! THAT's innovation for me!
thanks
how different is it to look at in computer? im so used to windows (i always heard linux is teh ugly, i know i want a pretty screen) but id be willing to give it a go if i dont like i can go back & start again can you send me a link to Ubuntu and a easy install process to boot lol
It looks almost the same. Just run a Google image search for Ubuntu, you'll find plenty of screenshots.

Anyway, here's (http://www.ubuntu.com/products/GetUbuntu/download#currentrelease) the download page for the newest version of Ubuntu. Just choose the server closest to you, burn the ISO to a CD, and reboot your PC with the Ubuntu disc in your CD-drive.

Just write here, or PM Garfunkel, if you have any problems.

[Garfunkel]

I sent you a PM smoke ;)

[dockthepod]

w00t, I just joined the linux-on-ps3 club. I've got gentoo up and running!

[stanDarsh]

I haven't yet put linux on but I will soon. I just have decided which version of linux to install. I downloaded YDL5.0, but it's just sitting there on my PC HDD.

[Garfunkel]

give it a whirl stan, you will love it :)

[stanDarsh]

I'm very tempted to ;)

[Sephiroth_VII]

Do it quick, unless you want to find Garfunkel by your bedside, with a chainsaw, when you wake up tomorrow morning... I did:look:

[Garfunkel]

Oh, that wasn't me, that was Onbake. ;)

...that is unless i slept walked all the way to Sydney airport and managed to get on a plane while asleep, fly to Denmark, hire a cab, purchased a chainsaw and get into your house while asleep. And then managed to flee the country and wake up being none the wiser...

...but that would explain the lumberjack shirt i woke up in...


joo vill install Linux! joo vill, joo vill!

[Sephiroth_VII]

Arrrrrrrrrgh!!! OnBake was in my house!?

I must disinfect my HDD!!! It's filled with Mario and Samus porn!!!!

EDIT: Now that I think about it, there were two people. One of them had a chainsaw, and the other guy had a penguin, a buzzgun, and was dressed in an SS uniform...

[Garfunkel]

So your the one who has been hosting that porn! jeez, i thought they were ads.

[Sephiroth_VII]

No, it's not my fault! OnBake hacked my PC, no, don't IP-ban me, nooooooo!!!

[Garfunkel]

Take your ban like a man.

[Smokey]

thanks garfunkel (i was wondering how long till you got em to change it) & Sephiroth_VII im downloading the Kubuntu one as i think it looks better :) thanks for the PM info too Garfunkel. i will annoy you if ima havin probs LOL :)

[Smokey]

im on LINUX now baby :):):) this is my FIRST post through it :)

[Coded-Dude]

congratulations, and welcome to a REAL community.

[Smokey]

well my resolution has stuffed up :( i had 1280x768 running but after i restarted my computer the best i can get is 640x480? not happy :(

[Coded-Dude]

what flavor(distro) of Linux are you running?

[Smokey]

Kubutu just not sure how to Install programs yet & i dont get this rez change since it was fine before?

[Coded-Dude]

it was fine during install and failed at initial boot?
Or it was fine at first boot and somehow changed with a reboot?

[Smokey]

Or it was fine at first boot and somehow changed with a reboot?
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when it was reformating i lost pic altogether then it all stopped i waited a while still no pic so i reset & away she went i set everything up to the rez i had then i did a restart & bam 640x480 :(

[Garfunkel]

woops, i sent you a pm about dual booting, too late.

maybe it's a bug in the installer? so did it just crash half-way through the install process?

hmm, you might have to try the alternate cd.

Can you go to applications -> accessories -> terminal and type in "sudo kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf" (exactly as i typed with out the "") and PM me the text int he file that opens up?

[Garfunkel]

BTW: VG, I had a look for solutions to your kb/m support in Ubuntu and all the solutions i came across needed a kb/m to edit a file or two, if you wanted to give it a go you might have to use a standard usb/ps2 kb/m to set it up before switching to the BT kb/m.