David Jaffe: '10 Years from Now, One Console'

[Pumpkin Head]

Blow by blow, The 1UP Show, Gamevideos and 1UP present: Twenty Minutes Thirty-One Seconds and Fourteen Frames with David Jaffe.

On a recent visit to SCEA San Diego to see David Jaffe's Calling All Cars for The 1UP Show, after talking about calling all cars, the outspoken developer talked about the game industry, Sony's first party and concerns he has with all three of the platform holders strategies.

1UP: With God of War 2 finishing up on the PS2 and you readying God of War 3 for 2000-eternity...

David Jaffe: Heh, exactly.

1UP: Are you concerned with the perception of an exodus of third parties, you have VF5 going to the 360, potentially there's a bunch of other games going to the 360 as well.

DJ: There's two things. I'd be concerned if I heard that all of those were going to the 360 exclusively, but that's not what you're saying. You're saying there's a business model out there where these games are getting really expensive. A lot of games recently it's cell phone, PC, DS, PSP, if you look at EA they blanket it -- it's everywhere. As a gamer, I kind of miss the 'you can only get it on this system.' There's kind of an excitement that was about that back up until recently. With this new hardware, though, that idea is seems to be going away. Is it really all going to come down to first party now? Or it ultimately going to come to one system? 'Cause 10 years from now there's going to be one system because there's so much more third party software than first party software from any hardware manufacturer. It may not be feasible to make it the war of the first party or the war of the exclusives.

1UP: Are you guys internally worried as developers about the way Sony's handling their third party? You have developers like Activision working on the Tony Hawk game and before the PS3 launch they came out and said 'we don't know that we'll be able to do online because Sony hasn't been cooperative.' If Sony's not cooperating with third party developers, as a first party developer that's gotta be concerning.

DJ: Understandably, as their should be there is a very thick iron curtain between first party and third party. We're not allowed to see what they're working on or anything like that to make sure that there isn't osmosis where Activision would claim that we're using their ideas to make first party games. So this is coming sort of from just a guy who works at Sony and a guy who loves games and reads the message boards. I remember a lot of complaints about the PS2 at the very beginning and people got up to speed and ultimately realized that this is a very exciting platform to work on.

I don't really see any reason why the PS3 isn't going to go down that same road. What was it? The Dreamcast was out when PS3 [he meant PS2 - ed] launched. And everyone was like 'Oh the Dreamcast is a dream and it's so easy, blah blah.' Ultimately, it doesn't matter. It's about the games and about how Sony will support their third party partners as well as their first party partners to get those games out to people. I think ultimately we're going to see a somewhat similar situation there.

1UP: I see what you did there, you just Dreamcast'd the 360.

DJ: Well, wait a minute, I'm open to this, let's have this discussion...

How did the discussion turn out?

http://www.gamevideos.com/video/id/8593

[curryking1]

600 dollars is a lot to ask.

Then again, when people see a 1080p movie and a 1080p game, that 600 goes down a lot easier.

I don't feel that Sony has communicated that message well enough.

I completely and wholeheartedly agree. A good watch I would say, thanks for the heads up.

[yoshaw]

ZOMG! I can't stop laughing. Jaffe PWNED 1up's Luke Smith!! Serves him right for sneaking his fanboyism to attack the biggest mouth in the gaming industry.

Great interview! +rep

[Garfunkel]

+rep! He is one of my favorite devs, he is funny and down to earth too, seems like a nice enough bloke.

[masteratt]

Haha, excellent.

The interviewer was really annoying but got his ass handed to him ;) and what a nerd actually pronouncing Virtua Fighter 4 as VF4. Or does every gamer do that? :look: I find it extremely nerdy lol

Big props to Mr Jaffe as always :clap:
I am pretty sure he doesn't actually like the X360 though lol

Btw, what's up with the "lol we r gonna make u sick lolol" cuts that 1UP uses? Are they trying to be the MTV of gaming? horrible. I could hardly concentrate on what he was saying because of stupid and unnecessary cuts every second.

[frosty]

I wish I could +rep David Jaffe. Hurry up and make an e-mpire account David!

[woundingchaney]

Dont really care for the guy. Seems to be the ever eager Sony cheerleader and nothing he says translates to anything other than RAH RAH RAH.

Its the equivalent of listening to Bungie.

[kaphwan]

All of 1up's questions are backhanded insults against Sony.

Not professional journalism.

[Garfunkel]

^^^yeah the cuts were very bad, i didn't know if it was them or on my end but it was disturbing.

[gozirah]

Well, what would you have them do? Ask hard hitting questions about the viva pinata? Jaffe does work for Sony, afer all.

All of 1up's questions are backhanded insults against Sony.

Not professional journalism.

[woundingchaney]

Well, what would you have them do? Ask hard hitting questions about the viva pinata? Jaffe does work for Sony, afer all.

This is actually a good point. There is much for Sony to attest to after the launch and much that didnt turn out well in the eyes of critics and fans. Should they play patti-cake with the man or ask him definable questions????

If anything I really prefer the comments made by 3rd party devs, publishers than in house talent.

[curryking1]

Dont really care for the guy. Seems to be the ever eager Sony cheerleader and nothing he says translates to anything other than RAH RAH RAH.

Its the equivalent of listening to Bungie.

Did you watch it? I never have read or seen any interview with the guy, I didn't even know what he looked like (I first thought Jaffe was the guy with the beard and was wondering why he asked the question first lol!).

I thought this was a great interview though. He did cheerlead a bit during the part where he had to talk 1 good thing and bad thing about Sony and the PS3's directions, and much less slightly during other times (which is understandable being under Sony) but other than that, I thought he made some good and reasonable assessments of gaming today.

Again, my favourite thing he said was that he feels that Sony needs to convey the purpose for spending the 500 or 600 bucks. The consumer must be told and given the incentive and reason to spend it, I don't think Sony has done well to convey the worth of the console either.

[woundingchaney]

Did you watch it? I never have read or seen any interview with the guy, I didn't even know what he looked like. I thought this was a great interview though. He did cheerlead a bit during the part where he had to talk 1 good thing and bad thing about Sony, but other than that, I thought he made some good and reasonable assessments of gaming today.



Im not saying that he isnt talented or that he doenst make good points but most of what I hear him say is Sony utopia. I recognize why this is done and it is a viewpoint but I wouldnt listen to him anymore than I would listen to Gates tell me about the 360 or Bungie tell me how great the next Halo is going to be.

[curryking1]

I agree, I think he is a Sony Utopian kind of guy or whatever and it is on par with Bungie talking about how dual wielding makes Halo 2 better, but regardless of whatever good he said about Sony, I think he made some interesting points.

And I'm sure he said good things about the competition and so on maybe to make him seem agreeable and whatnot.

Whatever way it is, I liked his cost and awareness point about the PS3, hardly pro Sony, and his question about 'will first party titles be the only differing factors between consoles in the future, and will they matter compared to the number of third party titles out there?'

Ignoring all his pro Sony spew, fake-or-not competition praise and whatever other conniving things he may have done, he made 2 great analyzes there. One of them actually being quite unpro Sony.

[woundingchaney]

I dont know man. Its quite apparent that Sony needs to make 500 to 600 USD reasonable, I dont see as to how he couldnt recognize that. Most everything I have heard from the guy is Sony is cool, Sony lets me do what I want, Sony supports everything I like, Sony provides power for devs to eventually catch up to regardless how difficult it is, I like to make 10 or 20 dollar games, Sony makes it worth it to produce a title on their console, we are doing neat things on the PS3,Sony has the most experience pleasing gamers, so on and so on.

[Pistolero]

Smart answers for an enjoyable interview ! Cool Jaffe !

[Pistolero]

I dont know man. Its quite apparent that Sony needs to make 500 to 600 USD reasonable, I dont see as to how he couldnt recognize that. Most everything I have heard from the guy is Sony is cool, Sony lets me do what I want, Sony supports everything I like, Sony provides power for devs to eventually catch up to regardless how difficult it is, I like to make 10 or 20 dollar games, Sony makes it worth it to produce a title on their console, we are doing neat things on the PS3,Sony has the most experience pleasing gamers, so on and so on.

Well, maybe he was not lying !

[yoshaw]

Wounding,

The guy is a hard hitting industry pioneer. Kojima finds him worthy enough to ask if he wants to work with him someday. If he says anything about Sony it's because its coming straight from his heart. Same goes for everything he says out loud whenever it is he's asked anything. The guy simply doesn't hold back. Sorry but you aligning him with the likes of Gates or other trumpet blowers is rather not really fitting to Jaffe IMO. But we all have em, you have it too, them opinions. So cheers buddy :)

[Garfunkel]

I dont know man. Its quite apparent that Sony needs to make 500 to 600 USD reasonable, I dont see as to how he couldnt recognize that. Most everything I have heard from the guy is Sony is cool, Sony lets me do what I want, Sony supports everything I like, Sony provides power for devs to eventually catch up to regardless how difficult it is, I like to make 10 or 20 dollar games, Sony makes it worth it to produce a title on their console, we are doing neat things on the PS3,Sony has the most experience pleasing gamers, so on and so on.

Except for the last one, i feel that that is exactly what he thinks, maybe Sony does support everything he likes, maybe he does like cheap games, maybe sony does let him do what he want.

The thing is, he would not be making a first party game exclusive for the ps3 if he didn't feel Sony supported him on his game development.

[masteratt]

He clearly favours Sony, that's not to say he is a Sony puppet.

He gave reasonable and very likely to be true reasons as to why he 'loves' Sony so much and as I always said Sony somehow manages to create this positive chemistry with many developers.
Don't hate Sony for being good. :smoke:

This was definitely a genuine, non-PR bullshit interview. This guy is always like that.

[curryking1]

I dont know man. Its quite apparent that Sony needs to make 500 to 600 USD reasonable, I dont see as to how he couldnt recognize that. Most everything I have heard from the guy is Sony is cool, Sony lets me do what I want, Sony supports everything I like, Sony provides power for devs to eventually catch up to regardless how difficult it is, I like to make 10 or 20 dollar games, Sony makes it worth it to produce a title on their console, we are doing neat things on the PS3,Sony has the most experience pleasing gamers, so on and so on.

I'm quite sure I said ignoring all his pro Sony spew, which anyone must expect and be ready to ignore. The whole point of listening to someone selling you something is to weed out all the useless information, which would be this incoherent spew. It's gonna make it in there, no matter how creative he gets with his wording. That's exactly what I wasn't talking about which is all that 'Sony lets me do this blah blah blah blah.'

He made 2 analyses which I strongly agree on. The cost, ya, it was one of them. The other was what will be the future with third parties wanting to go all multiplatform with costs and what role will first parties play.

And for this 'anyone can see the PS3 is too expensive.' Well, I for one can't remember a time when any first party dev ever challenged the cost of their mother company's console. I certainly haven't seen any first party dev saying no standard HDD in the 360 was a step backwards from the first Xbox, and neither have I seen any Nintendo first party person negatively comment on the N64s cartridge space or $100 CAD game launching costs or Sony first party people saying the same thing about how much the PS3 costs.

Every other first party dev in the same situation would respond with the textbook answer of potential and in the future and when we see games like Xxxxxx or Yyyyy or what Zzzzz game did with physics/animation/AI. He didn't do that.

And you know what other thing was interesting? That instead when being about what he thought about the competition, at least he didn't go all 'that's where they went wrong and we're doing this better because Sony did this.' He at least acknowledged pros of the other consoles and their features, which is unlike I can say about pretty much any other person in the industry. Even if he acknowledged them and positively commented on them less than he big-upped Sony, he still actually acknowledged them, which is a feat very impressive in itself.

I don't remember any first party on any other side of this three part fence ever say more storage may be better for games, but I distinctly remember Jaffe saying XBL is very impressive.

EDIT: This is about as fair and objective competitors talking about each other and people naysaying their own companies gets.

[gnznroses]

well, gamevideo's servers blow, so it download 2-4 mb and then quits...

[PUNK em 733]

Awesome interview. +rep.

[Garfunkel]

great post curry, i agree totally, +rep!

[Nameless]

Great interview Jaffe is the man!
I like the fact that he typically speaks his mind...
I don't think his remarks were too pro Sony, I think he kept it real.
Sony is not doing a good enough job to justify the $600 USD price tag, but the console is the most powerful platform that is future proof... If Sony's marketing can't justify the console's price, perhaps the 1st party developers can...

Sony's biggest enemy is time, because the longer it takes to justify the price tag the greater chance of FUD to push users to other platforms... It's really important that Motorstorm is stellar and released in the near future. Also, Heavenly Sword needs to be truly AAA and released within 90 days of Motorstorm to keep things interesting.

Once again I enjoyed the interview and Jaffe did not take any BS from the interviewer. Peace

[CrumCon]

Whats the point asking Sony;s own people about negatives side of PS3 ?? of couse hewill fire back up your ass.

As someone else mentioned above, comments from big 3rd party devs would be more interesting.

[frosty]

which is what makes kojima's recent comments about blu-ray and such all the more interesting.

[Old_Timer!]

David Jaffe is a company man yes, but the man has balls. Sony doesn't have a leash on him, he tells it like it is. He did say 600 was expensive, and he gave credit to MS and Nintendo.
What else should he do? The interviewer Luke whateverrrrrrrrr, has always gunned for sony and sony reps. Phil Harrison didn't put him in check Jaffe just played a lil hard ball with him that's all.

[Garfunkel]

I found the interview quite balanced, obviously he is a sony dev but he did complement the competition on aspects of their console as well, like Live and the wii controller.

So i also think he just says it as it is, no bull.

EDIT: happy birthday to venomv!

[OmniCloud]

It seemed to be about as fair as you can get IMO...great interview, and calling all cars better be fun Jaffe!

I wonder what will happen if PS3 games actually do start to look and play better than 360's?

[Garfunkel]

I wonder what will happen if PS3 games actually do start to look and play better than 360's?

I think that we will start seeing a very small difference in the later half of 2008 (multi plats getting an upgrade for the ps3 edition) But i also think that microsoft will just use a few really really visually stunning 360 games to say "ours look great too!".

I don't think we will see a large difference between the games on the two systems until the end of their lives, even then it won't be huge.

[woundingchaney]

I'm quite sure I said ignoring all his pro Sony spew, which anyone must expect and be ready to ignore. The whole point of listening to someone selling you something is to weed out all the useless information, which would be this incoherent spew. It's gonna make it in there, no matter how creative he gets with his wording. That's exactly what I wasn't talking about which is all that 'Sony lets me do this blah blah blah blah.'

He made 2 analyses which I strongly agree on. The cost, ya, it was one of them. The other was what will be the future with third parties wanting to go all multiplatform with costs and what role will first parties play.

And for this 'anyone can see the PS3 is too expensive.' Well, I for one can't remember a time when any first party dev ever challenged the cost of their mother company's console. I certainly haven't seen any first party dev saying no standard HDD in the 360 was a step backwards from the first Xbox, and neither have I seen any Nintendo first party person negatively comment on the N64s cartridge space or $100 CAD game launching costs or Sony first party people saying the same thing about how much the PS3 costs.

Every other first party dev in the same situation would respond with the textbook answer of potential and in the future and when we see games like Xxxxxx or Yyyyy or what Zzzzz game did with physics/animation/AI. He didn't do that.

And you know what other thing was interesting? That instead when being about what he thought about the competition, at least he didn't go all 'that's where they went wrong and we're doing this better because Sony did this.' He at least acknowledged pros of the other consoles and their features, which is unlike I can say about pretty much any other person in the industry. Even if he acknowledged them and positively commented on them less than he big-upped Sony, he still actually acknowledged them, which is a feat very impressive in itself.

I don't remember any first party on any other side of this three part fence ever say more storage may be better for games, but I distinctly remember Jaffe saying XBL is very impressive.

EDIT: This is about as fair and objective competitors talking about each other and people naysaying their own companies gets.

I would have to disagree about the "weeding" out of information. I think there comes a time when one has to admit how impressive the rivalry is, yes Jaffe didnt resort to the typical nonsense that many do when talking about a rival although I cant see patting a man on the back for acting civilized.

Its fine you have your view thats cool but I dont see ignoring 3/4 of an interview to come away with some of the more same we are going to do this and we have done that scenario.



which is what makes kojima's recent comments about blu-ray and such all the more interesting.

At this point I really wouldnt consider Kojima to be a good example of 3rd party, something along the lines of Epic would be his position to me (and even then Epic has a PS3 title in dev.).

[woundingchaney]

Wounding,

The guy is a hard hitting industry pioneer. Kojima finds him worthy enough to ask if he wants to work with him someday. If he says anything about Sony it's because its coming straight from his heart. Same goes for everything he says out loud whenever it is he's asked anything. The guy simply doesn't hold back. Sorry but you aligning him with the likes of Gates or other trumpet blowers is rather not really fitting to Jaffe IMO. But we all have em, you have it too, them opinions. So cheers buddy :)

Chock it up to a difference of opinion. Im not trying to label the guy only give my take on the issue. Regardless Jaffe always comes off a very Sony defensive and very Pro Sony, but as I said earlier he is a definite PR spokesman for Sony.

[Garfunkel]

Come on wounding, your not going to find much better.

[woundingchaney]

Come on wounding, your not going to find much better.

In a first party spokesman most likely not (there are others that remind me of him), I agree. None the less when I hear Jaffe the thing that comes to mind is him waiving the Sony banner, which is fine it is part of his job and he does do it well. Like I said and Curry pointed out he makes some good statements.

If anything I like the center line approach coming from the more 3rd party people of gaming. I would much rather hear what these consoles did wrong or are doing wrong and how they compare to one another from those not affiliated with the respective companies.

[Garfunkel]

The problem i find with 3rd party interviews is that they are boring, i mean they want both system buyers to buy their games, they tend to unnaturally stay right on the fence, to promote their game for both platforms.

For example, EA always makes their games look similar to each other no matter what platform they are on, they would just say "both system are great!" and leave it at that.

Obviously, there are exceptions to this.

It's hard to explain but it is just what i feel.

[yoshaw]

Chock it up to a difference of opinion.

I already did! You should had finished reading my post before writing this? :) hehe calm down.

And lets us stop once n for all bashing or defending the guy for being pro sony and rather discuss the points he was trying to make. I'm sure there could be some legible stuff that could be taken out of it other than pro-sony material.

Shall we?

- Critiqued the price. Meaning even inside Sony there is a strong reaction to price and it's disadvantages well understood.

- Still working as hard as ever on making sure GOD OF WAR 3 gets made into a game sometime in the future.

- Calling All Cars is going to be a nice, fun game.

- Sony not doing a bangup job on selling a $600 machine. I'd say that's the best aspect that came out of it.

I don't know how many of you have seen the APPLE iPHONE keynote. But I swear If PS3 had a guy like Steve Jobs running the helms, he could had sold it at $1000 and walk away with everyone wanting one at that steep price.

I'd suggest fellow members, who haven't already, to go to apple website and watch the iPhone keynote address and watch it in full. The way Steve Jobs convinced at the end how iPhone is worth $600 was mind-blowing. He SOLD ME an iPhone!!! I swear I was saving for PS3 but now I'm faltered in my thoughts between getting a PS3 or iPhone. So yea go n watch that at apple.com now :)

- The way he compared the abilities and features of iPhone with existing tech made all the difference in his price revelation. Which could otherwise had turned bad as was the case with PS3's price declaration last E3. Sony did a poor job of convincing the world that PS3 has all these superb abilities compared to existing products on the market. Steve Jobs did it so well, his choice of words and the way he presented that last powerpoint whatever revealing the price was a sight to watch. LOL.

If anything Sony could use a lesson from Apple in this regard(keynote, price revelation).

IMO, if there is anyone at Sony that could emulate Steve Jobs? It's most definitely Phil Harrison! What do ya all say?

[Garfunkel]

agreed, Yoshaw.

[woundingchaney]

I thought the best part of his speech was on the digital distribution apect of next gen and homebrew associated with it.

[Sephiroth_VII]

Great interview!!! +rep!

[bRoNx]

Some people will downplay anything positive about SONY - whether it be from their so-called "cheerleader", or even from 3rd party dev's who like the PS3 better. Just face it, as soon as a 3rd party dev says that they prefer SONY over the other guys, people who are supposedly on the fence will suddenly dismiss them too as cheerleaders. Right?

I believe if someone is well looked after by their boss, of course they'll brag about it. It doesn't make it any less 'true', but to some it may sound like "cheerleading"! I believe that SONY really do let this guy do whatever, and that he's genuinely appreciative of it. Also, I think he's one of a few dev's who have earned the respect of many people in the industry, because he's shown that he has talent to back up the smack that he talks.

Anyways, my point was that I believe that when this guy talks, it's not for the sake of SONY of trying to score points with Kutaragi, but rather, to speak his mind and address whatever problems he sees - just ask Luke Smith! lol!

Oh, and Wounding, why do you crave bad news for the consoles? That's not really something I'd expect to hear from a gamer! Very sad.

[woundingchaney]

Why do you want to hear the repetitive drivel coming from the gaming industry these days?? Im rather sick of "potential" or "market share". I would much rather hear what needs to be addressed and improved on than "Hey we are doing this well or we are the number 1". I wouldnt say I crave bad news but Im much more likely to listen and pay attention to a gloom aspect brought out by devs than repeated lollipops and flowers. To me its much more intersting in hearing what problems there are associated with a console in both marketing and development. I dont see why a gamer has to have the ever present optimistic view.


As far as that goes would you ask the teacher's pet what he/she thinks of the class for a measurable opinion. When this guy talks its for Sony its for his job, does he believe whole heartedly what he says... well I dont know.

[Applefiend]

"Why was Resistance sent out to die?"

What the hell kind of stupid fan boy question was that. And this guy is news editor for a major site. Jesus...

What a twat.

[Garfunkel]

he has an infamous history of fanboyism, thanfully, David stood up to him and took no shit from him and smashed him at the end.

like a well played game of chess. :)

[FantasyGhost]

The streaming version sucked, because there were cuts in it. The download version sucks even more, because it stops at 4mins into the interview.

[bRoNx]

Why do you want to hear the repetitive drivel coming from the gaming industry these days?? Im rather sick of "potential" or "market share". I would much rather hear what needs to be addressed and improved on than "Hey we are doing this well or we are the number 1". I wouldnt say I crave bad news but Im much more likely to listen and pay attention to a gloom aspect brought out by devs than repeated lollipops and flowers. To me its much more intersting in hearing what problems there are associated with a console in both marketing and development. I dont see why a gamer has to have the ever present optimistic view.


As far as that goes would you ask the teacher's pet what he/she thinks of the class for a measurable opinion. When this guy talks its for Sony its for his job, does he believe whole heartedly what he says... well I dont know.Well, the interview wasn't about that at all, IMHO. The guy was asked certain questions and he answered them. Maybe you should be addressing Luke instead. As far as the "lollipops and flowers" part, I certainly didn't see it. Feel free to point it out, but I certainly didn't get that sugarcoat feeling whilst watching that interview. I think he answered the questions honestly and didn't hide anything that needed to be said.

As far as that "teacher's pet" analysis, I don't get it. Yes he works for SONY, and yes he won't say anything that'll get him fired (duh!), but I also believe that he's actually speaking his mind. Is PS3 expensive? Yes! That's not doing SONY any favours, but it's what he truly believes. Is SONY's marketing strategy sucking right now? Absolutely! Again, he's just pointing out what everyone's thinking. Is the PS3 more powerful? Well, there's been numerous 3rd party dev's who have said the same thing. It doesn't make it any more true, but I'm just pointing out that it doesn't take a SONY cheerleader to say that.

"Why was Resistance sent out to die?"

What the hell kind of stupid fan boy question was that. And this guy is news editor for a major site. Jesus...

What a twat.Yeah, what an ass! I'm just glad he picked David to fire those questions at, and not Phil or Kaz...cuz they would've been like real polite and shit! Go Jaffe!

[curryking1]

I thought it was a fine question. It was poorly worded, but it is one to be asked when the game didn't sell as much as I think Sony and Insomniac probably expected.

He gave a very fine answer, I was rather impressed with it. Very logical, simply made sense. Insomniac and SCE went into a deal to make a launch title. Insomniac knew what they were getting into, and agreed to further terms on the basis of that. That's a perfect answer because 1. he can't talk about it legally and 2. he couldn't because he simply didn't know the specifics (or at least, no one could expect him too not being part of Insomniac or the people who make deals with other companies).

[Garfunkel]

Resistance will always be remembered as the standout ps3 launch game, so i don't think it will be such a great loss to Insomniac, they knew it was going to lose them money right from the start.

[curryking1]

I would have to disagree about the "weeding" out of information. I think there comes a time when one has to admit how impressive the rivalry is, yes Jaffe didnt resort to the typical nonsense that many do when talking about a rival although I cant see patting a man on the back for acting civilized.

Its fine you have your view thats cool but I dont see ignoring 3/4 of an interview to come away with some of the more same we are going to do this and we have done that scenario.

I think it was probably 3/4 of the interview too. But you know what? I am used to ignoring stupid spew. I watch the news, especially political news. I actually listen to what politicians say.

Do you think I take 90% of what they say for anything more than face value? No, I don't, because I know it's all bull****.

And I have reason to expect it, but that's not ever gonna stop me from watching John Baird of the Conservative Party speak on Canada's environmental issues. I want to see what he says he's gonna do in the arena of 'saving' the environment. Did I actually 'take in' any of the retardation of slamming the Liberal party with childish and uncreative remarks in caucus?

No, but that's the way the world works right now. Politicians rip other politicians. And I'd rather have my information, no matter how hard it is to get it, rather than not. Especially so I can hold them to their word and justly get mad if plans are hardly realized.

At the same time, I cannot expect them not to advertise their agenda. But the whole point of listening to everyone is to get every damn point of view, to get a general idea of what this guy, this guy, and that guy are really saying and where they want to go with that.

I apply the same type of judgement to any media or advertising my television, radio or internet throws at me. Maybe since you don't like to watch all the 'garbage' you could catch the highlights at eleven, but I'd rather get information from not only third parties, but from the primary source as well.

And again, because we are talking in the gaming business right now, where competitors respect each other like a cat respects a dog, Jaffe should be commended for being under one umbrella but at least acknowledging that the grass can sometimes be greener on the other side.

P.S. When a very talkative politician stops resorting to childish slander in caucus, I will be there to pat them on the back too. It's not acting civilized, it's acting civilized when everyone around you at the same level isn't. It's more difficult than it sounds and tempting to fight fire with fire, and go with the flow.

[Red_Eyes]

If you gonna ask the guy his opinion, of course he's gonna give you his opinion. It doesn't matter that his opinion support Sony or not. You're asking a question and he's answering.

[OmniCloud]

Jaffe works at Sony and sees everything PS3 that going on...Why is it so hard to accept his opinions:huh:

Very good interview. And good posting bRoNx...

I certainly hope that PS3 is "up-to-par" by mid-year. I want next-gen right now Sony!

[VideoGame mania]

Whats the point asking Sony;s own people about negatives side of PS3 ?? of couse hewill fire back up your ass.

As someone else mentioned above, comments from big 3rd party devs would be more interesting.

What's the point of an xbox fanboy asking Sony's worker questions ?
Jaffe isn't biased, he speaks what he has on his mind. He respects all 3 companies, because he is a gamer with kids and a busy job. 3rd parties are not interested in developing games for one system, unless someone gives them money hats. I see no point inteviewing them. Gabe Newell, what a joke he is a disgrace to the gaming world. What's happened to being hardworking and passionate about your job ? Go ask him questions, i'm sure he has a lot to say how he hates everyone, including his job.
I really enjoyed David's speech, Sony needs more people like Dave.

[totobeni]

i love DJ ...and he just pwned 1up ..

Luke have some true useless worthless and pure stupid questions , is he a real-pro journalist ?..Luke is one of the reasons why Computer and video game journalism is sucks .

but it seems some 1up members are now at insane mode, they try to bash and trash David Jaffe after what he did to their beloved Luke .

[GTShotoKen]

Pretty amazing interview.

I don't know why everyone is angry at Luke for the questions he asked. His questions were quite good, hard hitting, and were the questions that were on many peoples minds.

I'm all for loaded questions with ulterior motives since those types of questions test the merits of the interviewees, and I have to say Jaffe tackled those questions with flying colors.

Wounding, I'm right there with you when it comes to accepting the entirety of what a first-party developers says about his own company and the industry as a whole.

I completely understand your skepticism, but you do have to admit that there hasn't been any better interviews over the industry from any other developers.

From Nintendo we hear, "The competition is great, but we have the best first party." From Microsoft we hear, "Sony sucks, Nintendo's somewhere else, and we have Halo and Xbox live." From third-party devs we mainly hear, "We love everyone and please buy are games on all systems they launch on." Finally from Sony we hear, "We're number 1 so we must be doing something right."

The point is not being completely unbiased, but hearing something other than the same old bullsh!t.

This is where Jaffe Delivered. He's not talking as a Sony exec, but as a developer in the industry and I think most other devs should take after him.

edit: PC devs deliver on this front too when it comes to commenting on the industry, but they don't share the same dynamic as the devs exclusively in the console space (their opinions are still very valid though).

[LaLiLuLeLo]

I think everything he said was pretty on point.
I don't really any weaknesses with sony aside from their console being 600 bucks, and them not communicating why it's worth that (which I think it is, but there are plenty of people who look at the price tag and stop right there).

[curryking1]

Great post Gaming Guru, agreed with all of that I think.

I also though Luke asked some really great questions.

[gozirah]

I really think Luke sent his question about Resistance to die.

[EvilTaru]

There's a clear distinction between asking a tough question, and having an ulterior motive/being a complete asshole. It's not a matter of not asking the tough question, it's a matter of being rude and disrespectful.

There are a lot of direct questions that can be asked, WITHOUT BEING A COMPLETE ASSHOLE, such as:

Is Sony going to address the xmb to allow messaging while in-game? If so, when?
Is Sony going to add the custom soundtracks function to the xmb? If so, when?
Is Sony going to allow downloading from the PSN in the background while the player does something else?
Should Resistance be a launch title given the userbase might not be big enough to ensure a return on investment?
Are Sony and Insomniac satisfied with Resistance sales?
Why did you choose not to develop a launch title?
Sony has been slow in getting games out on the PS3, how are you guys addressing that both from a first-party perspective and from a third-party relations perspective?

Luke is not interested in "being real", he's interested in being an asshole, something that he seems to be extremely good at. You don't have to be a freaking asshole in order to ask direct questions that are clear and concise, which really touch on the aspects of the console that need improvement. At this point there's really no point in a general comparison between consoles when there are SPECIFIC THINGS that require attention. There's a clear difference between trying to be critical and trying to find every reason to put down the console. This whole "game journalism" thing has been a complete JOKE, there are real journalists out there who ask the right questions, who are NOT ASSHOLES. If anything it is much easier to get real answers by being nice than being a total ****wad.

More importantly, Jaffe is not in charge of the PS3, he's a creative director for SCEA Santa Monica, he works on games, why not ask him about his games? Every Sony developer interview has so far been turned into this system wars bullcrap, it's freakin' sad.

[Applefiend]

Well as long as Luke interviews the guys at Bungie next week and he asks them "Why was 360 sent to Japan to die", everything will be OK. :)

I think what it's about is he's desperately reaching for a troll. It's such a weird question, and like Mr Jaffe I'd like him to spell out what's behind it. I didn't see the PGR3 guys asking why their launch game was sent to die or whatever.

[GTShotoKen]

Great post Gaming Guru, agreed with all of that I think.

I also though Luke asked some really great questions.

Thanks.

I do admit some of Luke's questions may have been inappropriate, but he is just saying what's being reflected in the minds of many other gamers out there who aren't attentive to everything in the industry unlike many of us on this forum.

Most gamers will only understand if they hear answers to direct, hard-hitting, and loaded questions. To see someone within Sony handle himself so well even under an onslaught of tough questions will only prove beneficial to the company in the end.

More people might just believe that the guys at Sony know what they are doing. ;)

[PUNK em 733]

I do admit some of Luke's questions may have been inappropriate, but he is just saying what's being reflected in the minds of many other gamers out there who aren't attentive to everything in the industry unlike many of us on this forum.



I absulutely agree with you. I'm glad he asked the questions that have been on all the haters' minds, as it gives us some insight as to why Sony has been doin the things they've been doing.

[Garfunkel]

I'm still confused on what he means when he said "one console", is he saying that only one company will have a console in ten years? if so, that makes no sense whatsoever.

[Nameless]

^I think people are getting carried away with that quote...
I think he was simply saying that first party titles alone may not be able to support the install base for multiple consoles. If the current next-gen trend continues most 3rd party titles will be released on all consoles and some gamers may choose one console and call it a day... Jaffe does not say Sony will be this one console, but I believe Sony is forward thinking with their network of 1st/2nd party developers. The next-gen war will more than likely be won based on 1st/2nd party software in contrast to the PS2 that won based on 3rd party exclusive software. (Breadth of library...)

It's just a SWAG on Jaffe's part and people are blowing it out of proportion. Peace

[PUNK em 733]

I'm still confused on what he means when he said "one console", is he saying that only one company will have a console in ten years? if so, that makes no sense whatsoever.


I;m with you on that. Maybe someone can clear that up for us.

[TheGreenElf]

I'm just glad that one company's first party offerings can pretty much all speak for themselves rather than morons like this guy...

[frosty]

About the "one console" statement, he's talking about 3rd parties making it so that all titles are multiplatform and therefore level the playing field once consoles hit a point where things like graphics aren't as important because they have advanced to an already realistic level. When it all boils down to games, he's saying that there aren't enough killer 1st party exclusives to keep up with the third parties, which will kill the console market because you'll be able to get most of the good games on any system.

I don't totally agree, because I think 1st party games are what have saved many companies from extinction (Nintendo), but I think that's what he was getting at.

[Chrome]

A very intresting interview, David Jaffe coped very well with an interview that could have been a disaster. I'm not the biggest 1up fan because of all the fanboyism's but that was one of the best interviews I've watched in along time.
Even though he's part of Sony his interview was very honest, we need more type's like him, it's scary that he thinks alot like me.

Definatly a man who know's what he's talking about.

[gibmonster]

good interview. The interviewer was an idiot to say that there are hidden costs in playing a game in 1080p...I'm glad he isn't an accountant.
Jaffe handled himself very well.

[bRoNx]

good interview. The interviewer was an idiot to say that there are hidden costs in playing a game in 1080p...I'm glad he isn't an accountant.
Jaffe handled himself very well.Well, to be fair to the baboon, he was referring to the fact that people will need to own a 1080p TV in order to enjoy 1080p gaming. So in his mind, SONY is not telling the consumer the full story. Yeah, like Samsung is expected to tell everyone that buys a DVD player that they'll need a TV to watch it on! C'mon, how stupid do you expect people to be? If you're considering a PS3, you'll probably either be an AV enthusiast after a cheap BR player - so you'll know everything there is to know about HD. Or, you're an early adopter who doesn't mind the high cost, and you're likely to know what's going on anyways regarding HD gaming (possibly from internet forums), and understand the need for an 1080p TV to get that resolution gaming.

But hey, Captain Obvious had to sling one more handful of mud at SONY, and in the act, proceeded to insert his foot in his own mouth - with the help of DJ! Idiot!

[gibmonster]

Well, to be fair to the baboon, he was referring to the fact that people will need to own a 1080p TV in order to enjoy 1080p gaming. So in his mind, SONY is not telling the consumer the full story. Yeah, like Samsung is expected to tell everyone that buys a DVD player that they'll need a TV to watch it on! C'mon, how stupid do you expect people to be? If you're considering a PS3, you'll probably either be an AV enthusiast after a cheap BR player - so you'll know everything there is to know about HD. Or, you're an early adopter who doesn't mind the high cost, and you're likely to know what's going on anyways regarding HD gaming (possibly from internet forums), and understand the need for an 1080p TV to get that resolution gaming.

But hey, Captain Obvious had to sling one more handful of mud at SONY, and in the act, proceeded to insert his foot in his own mouth - with the help of DJ! Idiot!

I concur. But you don't need an hd tv to enjoy the games..and it's pretty obvious to most consumers that they would need an hdtv to enjoy HD content. Whereas the term "hidden cost" would be more appropriately used for someone who wants to play on LIVE and has no choice but to pay to play.

Funny how he shot himself in the foot anyway. I don't get why he asked him about resistance.

[bRoNx]

I don't get why he asked him about resistance.That was probably the dumbest question he asked. Like DJ pointed out, Ted Price and his team are not that stupid to walk into this deal blindly like that, and actually be suprised by the slow sales. Captain Obvious again failed to realise that anyone with half a brain would've made sure that they cover themselves against possible (certain) losses regarding software sales whenever a new hardware is released.

I just hope that part of that deal involves an ongoing push for the game from SONY. Although I haven't played it, the reviews suggest that this game has a longer lasting appeal than say, Gears, due to it's high replay value and also online component. I hope that SONY, once they launch 'worldwide!', would push this game alongside the newer games (i.e. MotorStorm) for it's online component, and even market the game heavily on PSN. Because according to the reviews, as well as Insomniac's previous offerings, it deserves it.

And just to switch the subject on y'all, I believe SONY has made another winning move with their WWS initiative. They have so much quality talent there, as well as promising titles coming up, that they have really protected the PlayStation brand for another generation - a generation where most third party games will be multiplatform, and thus shifts the responsibility to first & second party dev's to work their butts off and come up with some AAA software (as per Jaffe's comment about "one console"). I really believe that SCEWWS will be the ones to do that, and I look forward to what's ahead.

I, like David, am really excited for the PS3, and I truly can't see myself being so devoted to another console. I don't know why! It's like my love for my Super14 rugby team, Auckland Blues. They've sucked for so long, but I just can't cheer for anyone else! I love my XBOX, one day I'll get my own 360, but there's nothing like my PlayStation! Long Live PlayStation!

[curryking1]

Ok, honestly stop ripping on Smith. What about all the people who really don't know why Resistance came out so early? What about for all the people that didn't think about this for a while before?

And he didn't ask "Did Resistance get sent out to die?" He asked "DO YOU FEEL that SCEA sent Resistance out to die." He asked what DJ thought, nothing more, nothing less.

The question was fine, DJ gave a fine answer. When it's all said and done, it was good journalism because he asked a very difficult, even if a bit assholey, question which warranted a good answer, and DJ gave the best answer anyone in his position, or really anyone outside of Insomniac and Sony, could possibly give.

[frosty]

As a gaming journalist who has interviewed a couple developers myself, I can tell you that it is our job to ask questions like that. Hard hitting questions that the "fanboys from the other camp" would ask. We strive to either pwn the person being interviewed, or the other way around. Whichever happens, it turns out to be a great interview which catches the attention of all who read/watch/hear it. Now granted I wasn't given the time to come up with the hard hitters at E3 (every interview I did myself was conducted on the fly, with all questions coming off the top of my head) some of E-mpire's other members were asking some excellent questions to those they interviewed (props to Lucent Beam and Hylian Advocate).

[curryking1]

^Hell yes, good post.

[jaxmkii]

"sony says make something that YOU think is cool"... that was sayed to Dave by sony and he sayes thats the attitde to devs... that is why sony rocks!

*spoiler alert*


About the whole RFOM thing with the way it ends its clear that they have a sequil in mind. so buy the time RFOM2 comes out maybe the first will end up as a prequill like status.

[TheGreenElf]

As a gaming journalist who has interviewed a couple developers myself, I can tell you that it is our job to ask questions like that. Hard hitting questions that the "fanboys from the other camp" would ask. We strive to either pwn the person being interviewed, or the other way around. Whichever happens, it turns out to be a great interview which catches the attention of all who read/watch/hear it. Now granted I wasn't given the time to come up with the hard hitters at E3 (every interview I did myself was conducted on the fly, with all questions coming off the top of my head) some of E-mpire's other members were asking some excellent questions to those they interviewed (props to Lucent Beam and Hylian Advocate).

Exactly, thank you. I am sick of morons and fanboys crying because they think the interviewer is biased or attacking the person being interviewed. They are just asking the questions everybody wants answered.

[jaxmkii]

i just love the way dave handeled all the questions... he need to be the next Sony PR guy!

[masteratt]

I think a PR guy needs to be less 'IN YOUR FACE' and a bit less drunk too lol

[yoshaw]

Exactly, thank you. I am sick of morons and fanboys crying because they think the interviewer is biased or attacking the person being interviewed. They are just asking the questions everybody wants answered.

I think we could use less of degrading remarks about forum peers. thanks

BTW, How is a Resistance related question to a God of War guy a question everybody wants answered?

[curryking1]

Errrrggg, he asked 'DO YOU FEEL!?' It means, what do you think of what happened, what is your opinion on the matter? He's a guy at Sony, they are simply close in relation. He just asked "How does David Jaffe feel about it, what is David Jaffe's opinion about it?" THAT IS IT!

David Jaffe is synonymous with Sony as well, not just God of War. He is basically the most 'advertised' first party dev from them. So "FROM A PERSPECTIVE OF A GUY WHO WORKS WITH SONY AND IS SO CLOSE TO SONY, what is his opinion on the direction Sony and Insomniac went with it?"

[EvilTaru]

Ok, honestly stop ripping on Smith. What about all the people who really don't know why Resistance came out so early? What about for all the people that didn't think about this for a while before?

And he didn't ask "Did Resistance get sent out to die?" He asked "DO YOU FEEL that SCEA sent Resistance out to die." He asked what DJ thought, nothing more, nothing less.

The question was fine, DJ gave a fine answer. When it's all said and done, it was good journalism because he asked a very difficult, even if a bit assholey, question which warranted a good answer, and DJ gave the best answer anyone in his position, or really anyone outside of Insomniac and Sony, could possibly give.

The title isn't even out in Europe yet and would very likely sell enough to more than break even, how is it that one would think SCEA sent Resistance out to die? Insomniac was paid to develop the game, and I doubt Insomniac suffered in any way financially, if anything SCEA took the financial risk to provide the userbase with one of the best FPS out there.

The point isn't that he shouldn't ask the question of why they made Resistance a launch title, he can ask anything he wants as long as he does it nicely, the point is he's being AN ASSHOLE when there's absolutely zero need to be an asshole.

Jaffe was nice enough to give them his time, and Jaffe does NOT have to agree to be interviewed, he's not obligated to have ANYTHING to do with 1UP, he does not owe 1UP ANYTHING. It's a basic sense of decency and respect that you don't badger someone who's doing you a FAVOR, 1UP was invited to the SCEA office to talk about CALLING ALL CARS, the interview wasn't even about Jaffe's view on Resistance as a launch title to begin with, they took an invite to discuss a SCEA game and tried to use it as an opportunity to grill Jaffe on something unrelated to the topic previously agreed upon. Jaffe could easily have walked out on the interview and have security throw their asses out.

If anyone thinks being a "game journalist" entitles you to ask a hard-hitting question in a way that makes you a complete asshole, then one is sadly mistaken because common decency still applies and a hard-hitting question has more to do with the nature of the question than the question being asked in an insulting way, Jaffe came right out and pointed out that the question was smarmy, and it was, it was not necessary to ask the question in an insulting manner.

Those who called people morons for complaining about the way the question was asked should seriously look themselves in the mirror.

[EvilTaru]

...

[curryking1]

It having not been in Europe has nothing to do with anything! I expect it will do good there. The guy just asked what he feels about how it has sold and been recieved as of that point in time.

Trust me, I called no one a moron or anything like that, but I see no reason to say Luke Smith is a fanboy or a loser because he asked some very offbeat questions which gave way for a very interesting and fresh interview.

EDIT: And yes, kudos to Jaffe for answering the questions that were quite difficult ones, you're right, he has no obligation. We are glad he took the time to explain what he thought about the situations and question that Smith gave. Kudos to Luke Smith for asking them, and kudos to both of them for a great interview.

Who cares if he was being an asshole. The point is he was doing a journalist's job. He asked a question that would put the interviewee off base. People want to hear what a guy so close to Sony thinks on the issue (which is what Smith asked) and Jaffe let himself have a go at it. Smith was doing a journalist's job and getting people exactly the answers to the questions that they want answers for. They want a direct asnwer (kudos to Jaffe) from a guy directly involved with Sony.

[Smokey]

just watched it i thought it was a good interview :) dont know what all the fuss is about?

[Black Dragon37]

He's a 1st party developer. That's what the fuss is about about. :)

[EvilTaru]

It having not been in Europe has nothing to do with anything! I expect it will do good there. The guy just asked what he feels about how it has sold and been recieved as of that point in time.

Trust me, I called no one a moron or anything like that, but I see no reason to say Luke Smith is a fanboy or a loser because he asked some very offbeat questions which gave way for a very interesting and fresh interview.

EDIT: And yes, kudos to Jaffe for answering the questions that were quite difficult ones, you're right, he has no obligation. We are glad he took the time to explain what he thought about the situations and question that Smith gave. Kudos to Luke Smith for asking them, and kudos to both of them for a great interview.

Why wouldn't the game not being released in Europe yet be important? Roughly 300k in NA isn't bad at all, and not even REMOTELY close to "sending Resistance out to die".

I don't think anyone needs a reason to call Luke Smith a fanboy because he was a fanboy well before the interview ever took place.

I wasn't referring to you as the person who called people morons. Sorry for the confusion.

The interview was intended to discuss CALLING ALL CARS, from the perspective of someone who wanted to know more about the game, the interview was very much a failure, a lot of hard working people at Incog are working on the game, instead of talking about the game, once again the attention is focused on "what Jaffe thinks about why Luke thinks Sony screwed up".

[EvilTaru]

just watched it i thought it was a good interview :) dont know what all the fuss is about?

Jaffe invited 1UP to talk about CALLING ALL CARS and the interview was hijacked from the get-go.

[Smokey]

Jaffe invited 1UP to talk about CALLING ALL CARS and the interview was hijacked from the get-go.

aayee i see what you mean. it turned into a "why is sony fucking up interview"

[section]

Kudos is a funny word, it means biological tissue in Finnish :D

[curryking1]

^Hahahha, nice to know. I'm studying a lot of bio related stuff at the moment lol.

[OmniCloud]

This is video games people, I don't expect the journalism to ever reach a higher standard than what it is.

But that was a great interview, if nothing more, it was informative and entertaining...

[GTShotoKen]

This is video games people, I don't expect the journalism to ever reach a higher standard than what it is.

But that was a great interview, if nothing more, it was informative and entertaining...

Now there's something we can all agree on. ;)

[curryking1]

No! I will never give in!!

BAHHHHH!!!!!!

Hahhaha, just messing.

[OmniCloud]

^Great avatar...;)

[yoshaw]

Errrrggg, he asked 'DO YOU FEEL!?' It means, what do you think of what happened, what is your opinion on the matter? He's a guy at Sony, they are simply close in relation. He just asked "How does David Jaffe feel about it, what is David Jaffe's opinion about it?" THAT IS IT!

David Jaffe is synonymous with Sony as well, not just God of War. He is basically the most 'advertised' first party dev from them. So "FROM A PERSPECTIVE OF A GUY WHO WORKS WITH SONY AND IS SO CLOSE TO SONY, what is his opinion on the direction Sony and Insomniac went with it?"

Curry, Opinion I understood!!! But what the heck does that have to do with everyone wanting to know about that. Did you want to know David Jaffe's opinion on why Resistance was sent out to die? I mean WTF kind of a question is that if according to GreenElf everyone wanted an answer to!? Now you understand my point?

LOL, this interview has become a great deal spanning these pages. People calling eachother, Jaffe and Luke moron n what not. Jeez, this forum rox

[Garfunkel]

i think it's time for this thread to die.

[GTShotoKen]

No!!! This thread can't die! :(

It must last at least until God of War 3 is released!!!

[RavenFox]

Damn what a sweet interview. +reppa

[jaxmkii]

The streaming version sucked, because there were cuts in it. The download version sucks even more, because it stops at 4mins into the interview.
:look: i love it when they edit interveiws mid scentance... what did he realy say?

[curryking1]

He could've well just been gathering himself up for another reply. Why must every assumption be for the worst case scenario?

Talk about conditioned responses... yeesh...

@yoshaw - I have to say... I still think it's a reasonable thing to ask someone who is so involved with Sony. What if we asked Phil Harrison? He's the man who would know, but we aren't gonna get an answer out of him. I think Jaffe gave a great answer, I'm not sure that without giving out vital and confidential information, anyone could've given a better answer.

Again, I think it's an ok question b/c he is so close to Sony, he would have a great look at what the beast is thinking. I'm fine that you aren't on the exact same page as me though. Cheers!

P.S. Lol, ty Omni!

[cliffbo]

a good interview overall BUT! if the question about resistance is`nt yet another knock at sony then why? do we never hear them ask the same so called hard hitting questions to microsoft or nintendo they also released high quality titles at their respective launches, were they not sent out to die? the 360 sold less consoles at launch and yet 1up never asked the same questions to anyone about perfect dark or pgr.

if he wanted to ask such questions being a "journalist" he should have worded his questions in a less fanboyish manner.

:)

[curryking1]

^You have to start somewhere. And yes, 1up did ask hard hitting questions to Peter Moore (?) I believe in a similar interview.

But back to, you have to start somewhere. Maybe this is a sign we will get more and more of these really interesting interviews, that are actually not a pain to watch people dodging every other question.

And yes, maybe for Luke Smith, I'm sure he could be capable of wording the question less fanboyishly, but let me ask this, do you think it would get any better of an answer?

Does it really matter that much how he asked it? Or does it matter that out from it came a very well thought out reply?

This goes back to the goal of journalism, to get to the bottom of things, and to get answers, the means aren't necessarily the point, the end result is and the answers are.

P.S. Because from where I am standing, it seems more of you are bent on attacking Luke Smith for the way he asked the question, and less so commending him for getting a great answer out of DJ, which is what the intention of journalism is.

[Z]

^You have to start somewhere. And yes, 1up did ask hard hitting questions to Peter Moore (?) I believe in a similar interview.
I thik that was the Shoe guy from Electronics Gaming mag and the internet press went wild like some kind of revelation. even PA made a comic prasing him. I found that funny especially since it was a moderate question or two in my opinion. but hey, that's just me.

[curryking1]

Maybe it was the context of the question, I don't know. Maybe time had to do with it. But still, start somewhere, even if the first is with Jaffe. What's the dif. between starting with Jaffe or Moore? At least there's a chance it's going somewhere.

[EvilTaru]

^You have to start somewhere. And yes, 1up did ask hard hitting questions to Peter Moore (?) I believe in a similar interview.

But back to, you have to start somewhere. Maybe this is a sign we will get more and more of these really interesting interviews, that are actually not a pain to watch people dodging every other question.

And yes, maybe for Luke Smith, I'm sure he could be capable of wording the question less fanboyishly, but let me ask this, do you think it would get any better of an answer?

Does it really matter that much how he asked it? Or does it matter that out from it came a very well thought out reply?

This goes back to the goal of journalism, to get to the bottom of things, and to get answers, the means aren't necessarily the point, the end result is and the answers are.

P.S. Because from where I am standing, it seems more of you are bent on attacking Luke Smith for the way he asked the question, and less so commending him for getting a great answer out of DJ, which is what the intention of journalism is.

None of this has ANYTHING to do with what the interview was intended to be about, it wasn't about David Jaffe, it wasn't about the PS3 launch or Resistance (which sold 300k in NA and 100k in Japan, and isn't even REMOTELY doing badly in terms of sales), the interview was about CALLING ALL CARS, a game which Jaffe and the folks at Incog have been working very hard on, this was the reason why 1UP was even invited to the SCEA office, developers give interviews to talk about GAMES, not to give game industry rants or to be grilled on the various missteps of their company.

Instead of talking about the game, the interview was derailed from the start and instead focused on what Jaffe thought about various things. Whether you personally thought this was more interesting or not, to someone like myself who actually own a PS3 and want to learn more about the GAMES that will be hitting the system, the initially derailing and the subsequent game industry rant was something I cared nothing about. This is something that I lately find very disturbing on this board is how much people care about SWish industry rants and how little people actually care about games themselves. If someone actually thought Luke conducted a good interview then I'm sorry to say that such an individual got some wool pulled over his eyes, because of the way the interview was derailed you actually didn't get to learn anything about the game the interview was about. What Jaffe should have done was just stop it right there and get the interview back on track and TALK ABOUT HIS GAME, I'm sure one day Jaffe would think about this and wonder wtf happened.

[curryking1]

Ya, because I'm sure David Jaffe was very disappointed that he was given the avenue to tell us what he thought. Very....

It is disappointing though that little (or was any of it?) the interview was actually about Calling All Cars. For the record, I do care about games. And I like to hear about games. It's not so often we get to hear an industry professional on one side of the fence speak so objectively though.

However, the question, on it's own, it shouldn't offend anyone. Why it does? It's because one is being too defensive. Relax, take the question, and the answer, for what it's worth. Nothing more, nothing less. There is zero reason to get angry at either person (except for the reason of not talking about Calling All Cars for the whole interview, I mention it in my P.S.!).

Sometimes it's better to listen, and only listen, to what other people have to say and learn from that (maybe I'm being a hypocrit about that ahhaha). Tolerance is key. To be able to tolerate and observe, that's key. To look and listen and to simply understand, key. Look for reasons, look for another perspective, look for more knowledge, look for something that one may have not thought of by oneself, just look and listen. Take it in, turn it upside down, splash it, filter it, mix it around, get down and dirty with another idea, another way of thinking ya know?

Immediately blasting it for it's face value, that does nothing. One doesn't learn anything, one doesn't come away with more knowledge, one will not understand why others may have concluded this or that, one won't see any new reasoning, one doesn't get anything, and you will develop and condition an aversion for not listening to things that you get a hint that you may not like. That's how people become ignorant.

P.S. Also, I think it's perfectly fair for you to expect them to talk about the game, and it was very incorrect for them to use little if any time to do that. Did they post a preview or interview about it on 1up? I would too be disappointed if it was a preview I wanted to hear about, that was not very professional or right of them to do at all, and is unfair to anyone who wanted to hear about it, like yourself. You made a very good criticism there Taru. It actually danced around my head that the interview was supposed to be about the game, I somewhat forgot about that.

[TheGreenElf]

I think we could use less of degrading remarks about forum peers. thanks

BTW, How is a Resistance related question to a God of War guy a question everybody wants answered?

I wasn't talking about you, I was talking about everyone in general. From Nintendo, to Sony, to MS fanboys. I'm sick of it. In fact, I wasn't even referencing Sony this time. I was agreeing with frosty as I've done journalism work and got the same flack for it.

Edit: If somebody can't handle the question, its usually because its either true or completely unjustified. That question was legitimate and if people from one side of the argument don't like it, they are going to whine.

[yoshaw]

I wasn't talking about you, I was talking about everyone in general. From Nintendo, to Sony, to MS fanboys. I'm sick of it. In fact, I wasn't even referencing Sony this time. I was agreeing with frosty as I've done journalism work and got the same flack for it.

Edit: If somebody can't handle the question, its usually because its either true or completely unjustified. That question was legitimate and if people from one side of the argument don't like it, they are going to whine.

Whoa take it easy there mister. Nobody said you were pointing anything at me. Although I was indeed asking you to stop generalizing everyone as moron. You might be sick of fanboys or whatever but it doesn't help your situation when you get back to it by calling them with demeaning terms. Surely you can agree with frosty or whoever in the world you want to and you have the right to. But quit calling people morons just because you feel like saying it. That's not gonna help get your word across. You got my point now? Thanks!

If somebody can't handle the question? Am I hearing you right? Because I asked you a question too and then I don't see a reply for it. So what does that make it sound like?

True or completely unjustified? :)

That's rhetorical so take it easy now.