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Ocelot9

03-08-2007, 10:57 PM

Gamers, analysts, and by now, even hermits living in the Outback, knew that Sony went from gaming behemoth to another fish in the pond since E3 2006.

But guess what? They're baaaaaaack.

The Sony keynote delivered by Phil Harrison at the 2007 Game Developers Conference was exactly what the company needed to re-establish itself as a gaming giant. The announcements of Home and LittleBigPlanet were the types of things gamers had expected to hear about a year ago, but as the old adage goes, "better late than never."

Even just waiting for the keynote to begin, the crowd could tell that something was up--that this wouldn't be another Sony keynote like the ones from E3 2006 or Tokyo Game Show 2006. This would be the Sony of old, the one that wowed the audience at its E3 2005 press conference.

Among the faces I happened to spot in the crowd were Keiichi Yano, the creator of Elite Beat Agents and Gitaroo Man, Joseph Olin, president of the Academy of Interactive Arts and Sciences, and even Reggie Fils-Aime, president of Nintendo of America. And of course, DS owners were furiously sending entertaining (and obscene) messages back and forth to each other over Pictochat.

About 10 minutes before the keynote began, Sony staff threw gigantic soccerballs into the crowd which were bandied about like beachballs at a baseball game--with the intent being to knock the balls into makeshift goals set up on the flanks of the stage. Giant screens kept score of the "game," which was a heated match between team A (a portion of the crowd on the left) and team B (a portion of the crowd on the right). If you're keeping score at home or had money on the match, team B won.

That was a glorified example of audience participation--a key component of Sony's strategy moving forward. The buzz phrases "user-generated" and "emergent gameplay" were used about a billion times during the keynote, but they were backed up.

Home, the PS3's answer to Nintendo's Miis, Microsoft's Xbox Live and achievements system, and Linden Labs' Second Life, is a free service designed to foster communities among PS3 owners in a virtual world populated by corporate-branded virtual items and locations (hey--the Home service is free). The audience was clearly impressed with the seamlessness of the software, which allows gamers to bowl, play arcade games, hang pictures (customized of course), furnish their own digital apartments, and more.

However, the real darling of the presentation was LittleBigPlanet, a game from the makers of Rag Doll Kung Fu, now under the studio name of Media Molecule. The game is LocoRoco on steroids, or hallucinogens, or probably both. The word 'cute' doesn't do the game justice, nor does the phrase 'totally fricking insane and fun.' At it's heart LittleBigPlanet is a fancy tech demo showing off an incredible range of physics, but on the surface it's an adventure created by the player--and that player will range in age from 5 years old to 90 years old. I haven't heard applause like that which followed the LittleBigPlanet demo in a long time.

Miyamoto and Nintendo, it's your move.

To watch the Sony keynote in its entirety, watch the video:

http://www.gamespot.com/news/show_blog_entry.php?topic_id=25430683&sid=6167002&om_act=convert&om_clk=newstop&tag=newstop;title;12 (http://www.gamespot.com/news/show_blog_entry.php?topic_id=25430683&sid=6167002&om_act=convert&om_clk=newstop&tag=newstop;title;12)

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Posted by TimSpot, Mar 7, 2007 1:49 pm PT 93 Comments PrintE-mailCommentTagDigg this

Considering Gamspot was considered Biased or deemed PS3 haters. Topics such as this disproves all that. While I still don't think Sony will be what they were with PS2, it seems they are starting to show signs of what we have come to expect from the Playstation brand. Now I just want to see some killer games on those shelves. They need to get by this launch window delay BS and start getting the games out on time to boot. Congrats Phil on a stellar performance.:thumbsup:

curryking1

03-08-2007, 10:59 PM

Hats off to Sony. :salute:

'Follow the leader' no? :P

Can we keep this stuff in a more general 'Home' or Keynote thread though?

n1n9tean

03-08-2007, 11:02 PM

I saw this yesterday.

xbdestroya

03-08-2007, 11:18 PM

What upsets me about these types of articles are phrases like this:

The announcements of Home and LittleBigPlanet were the types of things gamers had expected to hear about a year ago, but as the old adage goes, "better late than never."

More like, get some perspective Gamespot. Of *course* Sony has been working on these things for quite a long time - but if they told us last year, and still had two years of development left, how would they have any edge on their competetors while still having revealed their next moves?

Stupid.

I'm glad for Sony's announcements, and glad that they were able to keep the secret in this super-competetive environment. When people are saying you've got nothing left, but you yourself know you've got the killer apps in reserve... you don't need to tell the world or prove anything to anyone. You just bide your time, and that's what Sony rightly did.

Coded-Dude

03-08-2007, 11:25 PM

I haven't heard applause like that which followed the LittleBigPlanet demo in a long time.

Word.........:praise:

curryking1

03-08-2007, 11:29 PM

Good calls there xb. Very strategic thinking by Sony, you're right, they've obviously been working on this for a very long time. Presented it at a strategic time for quite a massive effect as well, what an example of product promotion at it's finest, and that's almost the finest even by Sony's standards, which is totally impressive in itself.

Domination

03-08-2007, 11:30 PM

Considering Gamspot was considered Biased or deemed PS3 haters. Topics such as this disproves all that. While I still don't think Sony will be what they were with PS2, it seems they are starting to show signs of what we have come to expect from the Playstation brand. Now I just want to see some killer games on those shelves. They need to get by this launch window delay BS and start getting the games out on time to boot. Congrats Phil on a stellar performance.:thumbsup:

So basically what they are saying is, "we prematurely judged them"

" Why am I not surprised?" I wonder.

curryking1

03-08-2007, 11:31 PM

Because you're right? :)

This might be even premature judgement in itself ironically, but at least Sony has shown to us, publicly, they still have some serious staying power and quality product to deliver.

It's still a bit of time until this stuff is released and so on, but singling out this move, it's one seriously amazing ploy.

GTShotoKen

03-09-2007, 12:04 AM

Raijin

03-09-2007, 12:24 AM

You make a great point Xb.

I'm glad that Sony was able to finally turn the tide.

E3 looks to be an extremely promising venture for Sony now. I wonder what else Sony has up their sleeves? I know it's more than Killzone (even though that would be more than enough for many people).

Killzone? Ratchet & Clank, Uncharted, The Getaway, Warhawk, maybe GT5? Dont forget Eight Days, Wardevil, White Knight Story, Wipeout next-gen... + most likely tons of new PSN games announced. :aimhappy:

acousticvan

03-09-2007, 12:25 AM

Anyone remember when Ken Kutaragi mentioned about Global Map and user created contents? This is what he meant a year ago. He just gave a hint without any explanation. Good move.

Applefiend

03-09-2007, 12:33 AM

Raine

03-09-2007, 12:36 AM

Wow.

I kind of thought Sony was done for. I guess not. That's fun.

GTShotoKen

03-09-2007, 12:55 AM

Killzone? Ratchet & Clank, Uncharted, The Getaway, Warhawk, maybe GT5? Dont forget Eight Days, Wardevil, White Knight Story, Wipeout next-gen... + most likely tons of new PSN games announced. :aimhappy:

Your definitely right about that!!!! :)

I am wondering if Sony will announce anything at E3 that is a little less....unexpected or....unlikely (ok...Wipeout would definitely count as one)?

Maybe a new vibrating controller (the immersion lawsuit is over so anything is possible), or another huge improvement in PS3 functionality (I'm still waiting for more linux support and focus from Sony).

OmniCloud

03-09-2007, 12:57 AM

Applefiend

03-09-2007, 01:01 AM

Wii is filling my April nicely with Super Paper Mario too. Yum...

Kabbage

03-09-2007, 01:04 AM

This Is the Reason I bought a Goddamn Playstation with all the doubt, hate, and FUD Sony has never disappointed me with a console.. PS3 will be no exception.

curryking1

03-09-2007, 01:08 AM

There's always a tendency to go with the flow Apple, and it might also have to do with the fact that not many people on forums can see past a time frame a week in the future.

And yes, Mario Galaxy = mega duper hawtness..... wow...

dantruon

03-09-2007, 01:14 AM

the tide had indeed turn !!! from now to E3 we will only hear positive news in the media im telling you the genius of Sony Marketing is just ingenious.

Domination

03-09-2007, 01:23 AM

They never went away. As much as I like LBP and Home, they're still not in my top 5 reasons to like PS3.

So is not bashing the PS3 flavour of the month now because of these two demos? This is basically what's wrong with the world, people can't think for themselves and need permission from others.

Everybody with two brain cells to rub together knew 360 was outshining PS3 because PS3 had only been out a month or two and 360 had Unreal Engine 3.0 games (Gears'n'Graw), and a better dev kit.

Now PS3 is coming into it's own suddenly it's not the devil incarnate.

Makes me crazy that kinda thing. Grrrr...! :)

Thank you! My sentiments exactly.

If you invest in something - especially when this expensive, at least have an idea as to what you will be investing in, or in a more simplistic case, do some freakin' research. It baffles me how the media, being the main ones which you would probably count on to be more experienced at this, are so easily convinced (rather good or bad) to only what's infront of their faces for a brief period and not what could potentially emerge later on. It's like they have no foresight what so ever, hence the reason you get journalist reportering news articals like the one above. It's almost hilarious at times. I mean, what did they expect to happen on a launch compared to a more established product, and did they really think thumbs would be twiddled all the way up to a successor? :err:

dantruon

03-09-2007, 01:25 AM

well my friends, you are a product of your environment, and the internet is no exception.

Nameless

03-09-2007, 01:29 AM

OmniCloud

03-09-2007, 01:54 AM

Yeah...seriously...I will officially throw God of War 2, Big Little Planet, and Mario Galaxy into the early "Game of the Year award"...lol

I don't like folks who jump the bandwagon either Apple...but what can ya do...as long as there's sites like this, we the industry should be fine.

OmniCloud

03-09-2007, 02:02 AM

Personally I don't see the big deal with the "Home" concept, but if it get's people excited I'm all for it... Now little Big Planet was very impressive and is a showcase of what the PS3 is all about.

Microsoft just needs to get some real variety in their library.I don't think we were blown away by what was shown at Home so much as the potential behind the idea and service. There is HUGE opportunity here for not only gamers, but for companies as well. It has potential to completely wipe out the need to browse every website for new videos and trailers, just go to home and see what's in Insomniac or Epic new movie booth. Advertisement, clan meetings, customizing your apartment, interacting with 3D representations of friends, actually seeing your accomplishments in your game in real trophies for other users to see how much of a loser you are. And really, that's just scratching the surface.

The more people that join, the more new things and trends that will be accommodated into the service. And the real bottom line-It's Freakin' free! Sony wants users to join and become a part of the community, and then add features and marketing/advertisement to get us to buy stuff through the service! This combined with the Store is really something to get excited about, the whole user-generated content is becoming more and more real.

Well...that was the best I could do to get you at least somewhat excited about Home's potential. I don't expect the service to launch flawlessly, but I'm definitely going to be there day one to see how this thing turns out.

Domination

03-09-2007, 02:08 AM

frosty

03-09-2007, 02:14 AM

03-09-2007, 03:31 AM

shady's back
back again
tell a friend

but seriously, Sony was there all along. we were just impatient with them and they promised things too far in the future.

n1n9tean

03-09-2007, 03:46 AM

The main benefit of "home" to the average gamer will be finally having a way to have a "friends list" that you can use to join a multiplayer game in groups, which makes setting up games a breeze. Until now that was one of Live's biggest advantages on PS3's online setup.

Even better is the benefit of being able to introduce new friends to your current friends right there on the spot.

I think most people still don't realise how much potential this has. Some people just don't get it.

OmniCloud

03-09-2007, 03:52 AM

03-09-2007, 04:23 AM

Phil recently stated in an interview (check the GDC thread) that we'll be able to go back and forth from your apartment to an any online game in Home!

very exciting. I just saw the interview. Jax will be thrilled by this news as will the rest of us. :)

another extremely exciting thing for me; when they walked into the publisher/developer specific lounges created with their games' themes and what not, this is like having an E3 for each big title or developer to visit 24/7.
imagine walking into Konami's MGS4 lounge with posters, music in the background, exclusive custom clothes and other things all based on the coming block buster! it is like attending those exclusive parties! :clapping: :banana:

<3frosty

03-09-2007, 04:38 AM

Did everyone see the new Mario Galaxy trailer??? Awesome...

Big Little Planet, and Home releasing this year....

Huge exclusives like the ones in the post above...

Sheesh....step the freak up MS...Halo better be the best FPS ever made or something....

i dont have high hopes for Halo 3. It has been under-cover for way too long. My friend is going to be playing the multi-beta, and i will see what online looks like at this point. If its not leaps and bounds ahead of the curve by now, i dont expect much from an uber-delayed game.

BUT, MS still has console exclusivity on BioShock, which behind only Mario Galaxy, and God of War 2, is my most anticipated game of 2007.

n1n9tean

03-09-2007, 04:47 AM

I actually feel like I need to write a good, long, in-depth article in order to enhance people's perception of Home so they may realise just how incredible it is and what it means as a whole.

It's seems as if most don't realise certain possibilities until they are plainly displayed to them or until they finally have a chance to engage in the experience themselves.

It deeply aggravates me to see people shrug this aside as a "pretty-neat little distraction."

>Professor Xavier: Open your mind Magneto!
>Magneto: Don't make me SEE!!!

This is a REVOLUTION.

jaxmkii

03-09-2007, 05:29 AM

^ what we have here is a failure to comunicate... some men you just can't reach witch is the way he wants... well he gets.

curryking1

03-09-2007, 05:35 AM

stanDarsh

03-09-2007, 05:37 AM

So that's why up to 96MB RAM is required for the OS ;)

LaLiLuLeLo

03-09-2007, 05:41 AM

that's what I'm sayin. The xmb is like a too-big pair of pants that the ps3 will grow into.

03-09-2007, 05:47 AM

BUT, MS still has console exclusivity on BioShock, which behind only Mario Galaxy, and God of War 2, is my most anticipated game of 2007.
what, no MGS4? ;p

<3frosty

03-09-2007, 07:04 AM

what, no MGS4? ;p

Never was a big tactical espionage kind of guy, but i can appreciate the story lines and scope of the games. I WANT to get my hands on the newest MGS because it looks cool (the one back in the 70s or some shit in Vietnam), but yea...

Jay Gee

03-09-2007, 07:25 AM

Microsoft just needs to get some real variety in their library.
This is the crux of my argument with a friend of mine who always falls back on Gears of War and Halo 3 whenever we have a console wars argument. I keep telling him that the world doesn't revolve around deathmatches. It's all about variety and quality of. Sony has always been light years ahead of Microsoft in that aspect. And now they're taking the proper steps towards bringing their user base together in a community. Once Home becomes established, Sony will officially be firing on all cylinders.

Red_Eyes

03-09-2007, 08:21 AM

The tide has turn. And at E3 this July, Sony will drop the final Bomb to destry its competitors.

section

03-09-2007, 08:24 AM

what, no MGS4? ;pNever was a big tactical espionage kind of guy, but i can appreciate the story lines and scope of the games. I WANT to get my hands on the newest MGS because it looks cool (the one back in the 70s or some shit in Vietnam), but yea...I guess not everyone understand sarcasm :)

curryking1

03-09-2007, 08:27 AM

@<3frosty - Lol man, some of us just like to think of MGS as our babykins. Nothing can stop it! Bwahhahahaha!!! We just have some borderline insane obsession with it :)

P.S. It's 60's and Russia lol!

Theo

03-09-2007, 08:39 AM

what, no MGS4? ;p

MGS4 is most definately number one in my list right now, that's for sure. The damn thing will be above enything out there when it's released, I'm sure of it! Only FFXIII could top MGS4 for me, but that little thing is planned for 2008 is it not? Every PS3 game I play before MGS4 will only be there to ease the waiting for the real thing LOL.

EDIT: They are back indeed, though I (as a long time Sony supporter) would say they have been there all along. There was just too much FUD around to blind people from it. Many fail in being realistic and forward looking and kinda living in the moment or going with the flow instead. The ps3 have a LOT to live up to and it can't do everything at launch. Ps3 and Sony is doing very nice right now and it is only going to get better and better. All the FUD is partly a product of huge expectations, that all the success they accomplished with psone and even more so with the ps2 created. If the ps3 delivers in simalar scale, I can't imagine the fud created when ps4 is released.

curryking1

03-09-2007, 08:43 AM

MGS4 is most definately number one in my list right now, that's for sure. The damn thing will be above enything out there when it's released,

See <3frosty? This is the answer you're supposed to give, even if you have to lie ;)

dantruon

03-09-2007, 08:53 AM

i hope it wont destroy its competitors since it is them that push Sony to create wonderful things for us.

Theo

03-09-2007, 09:08 AM

i hope it wont destroy its competitors since it is them that push Sony to create wonderful things for us.

It will not. Wii has already good and fast growing support and nintendo is/will be doing profit with it. 360 also has it's growing support and MS has no problems with losing money in the console business as they have plenty to spend (I hope they will be able to make money this time insted of losing it)...

Garfunkel

03-09-2007, 12:07 PM

microsoft may have much to spend but things are getting tighter for them then you may think.

cliffbo

03-09-2007, 02:55 PM

What upsets me about these types of articles are phrases like this:

More like, get some perspective Gamespot. Of *course* Sony has been working on these things for quite a long time - but if they told us last year, and still had two years of development left, how would they have any edge on their competetors while still having revealed their next moves?

Stupid.

I'm glad for Sony's announcements, and glad that they were able to keep the secret in this super-competetive environment. When people are saying you've got nothing left, but you yourself know you've got the killer apps in reserve... you don't need to tell the world or prove anything to anyone. You just bide your time, and that's what Sony rightly did.

what he said! this is why i always believed in Sony. They kept their online Ace for the GDC show just before the relaunch of the PS3

Viper

03-09-2007, 03:00 PM

Relaunch?

*******

Back? Where exactly did they go? They've been the market leader for a decade, if they left at any point, I must have missed the memo.

dnpmakkah

03-09-2007, 03:42 PM

I am very excited about HOME, the possibilities are endless. If Sony can deliver on what they showed during the keynote then that right there is beyond my expectations. I also think it is another selling point that Sony can brandish besides it's hardware and games. Think about it. Lets say 60+ million people end up buying the PS3 and most of them use HOME. These people will most likely want to continue with the PS4 because it will become an even more emotional attachment to the console.

Imagine all of us using HOME. We walk around, visit eachothers space, chat, play some pool, bball, golf whatever, then once a week or something we all meet up at a joint clubhouse and goof off and ready it up for some multiplayer competition. During all this we get to visually see eachother in avatar form building a different kind of bond that you don't get through your regular forums and voice chat alone. After some time HOME will feel like 'home' and you wouldn't give it up for the world.

I think in due time Sony will probably even allow the facial represenation ala Rainbow 6. Imagine that, you take a picture of yourself with the Eye Toy and upload it onto your avatar and bamm...can it get any better? One other idea that I would LOOOOOOOOVE to see get implemented is if inside of HOME there was some sort of Sony Auditorium where we can go and see all the conferences/keynotes live as they are happening. How awesome would that be?

03-09-2007, 03:49 PM

Relaunch?

you know he considers the Jap/NA launch as the first event, and now the rest of the world's. with all the new info and such a line up of day-on offerings for Eruo PS3 gamers, many Europeans are considering this the 'real' PS3 launch. can you blame them after watching their fellow gamers using PS3s for months already?

come on, live a little. ;)

Viper

03-09-2007, 03:50 PM

I just didn't know what he meant by that. A relaunch is usually in reference to something already released in your market though I'm sure that's obvious.

Jay Gee

03-09-2007, 04:11 PM

Relaunch?

*******

Back? Where exactly did they go? They've been the market leader for a decade, if they left at any point, I must have missed the memo.
Everybody who wants to argue like sugar tank filled fairies will tell you that because of the PS3 and early 360 launch, Sony has lost its grip on the console gaming market. I can't honestly believe that, regardless of how many ppl own 360s. The console is just so one dimensional to me, I don't see how anybody could say that it covers all the bases that a gamer could want. I actually feel sorry for the games like Panzer Dragoon Orta and Otogoi: Myth of Demons that got released on the XBOX. Talk about fading in obscurity...

Killing Moon

03-09-2007, 06:18 PM

I just watched the GDC presentation and thought it was wonderful (never used that word before). Especially the Little Big Planet demo, you could really feel how great this game is going to be.

Just had to love the audience's reactions of cheers. Made me feel good, y'know.

cliffbo

03-09-2007, 06:25 PM

I just didn't know what he meant by that. A relaunch is usually in reference to something already released in your market though I'm sure that's obvious.

i think the GDC show and the European launch is a fresh start for Sony with the PS3. don't forget the 360 relaunched in japan, so its not unprecedented. HOME is going to be huge, we all know that and LBP is a demonstration of what physics based games of the future will be like. by the way has anyone noted how perfectly matched HOME is to LBP. you place things into the world where you want them and they are physics driven, you design your own character, you can put artwork up on the walls... etc... wonder if these devs had any hand in HOMEs development. and if no-one knows yet, those devs are PS3 EXCLUSIVE!

Domination

03-09-2007, 09:39 PM

Phil recently stated in an interview (check the GDC thread) that we'll be able to go back and forth from your apartment to an any online game in Home!

Why am I excited???!! Well guys put it together. Home now is like a back-bone service to EVERY online Playstation title. It is the base lobby for all online games. If it works, well Sony has done what everyone in the industry said they would never be able to-catch up to Xbox live.

It's a huge, unified, 3d lobby, with a slew of extras for gamers and developers to create there own content. And btw-how awesome is it to just walk around and see all the new trailers????!!!

Dammit Nameless??! Do you see the potential=-o

lol...

My prediction before we knew anything about their server:

I think Live is a great server, but when I think of it, I think of a chatroom and a message board fused together. It's really nothing all that different from what's been done for over a decade now. Do I see Sony matching this? Well, with the first online server, a lot of these things were already covered but at a basic level. Then there's things like online marketing. Sony was already talking about these things when they were hyping the first online server (CyberWorld). When I look at that and compared it to a lot of what Sony is made up of, I have to question the big fuss around its structure. The problem was only getting all of these things up and running in a more comprehensive sense, which Microsoft proved to be more successful at doing with the last server.

But to answer your question, no, I don't see Live being hard to match at all. I think hardcores only want to believe this because it was the first unified server at its time that stood out.

Like I said earlier, I believe Sony is going to go beyond the software solution which made a lot of these online servers function about the same. I also believe they have found a way to compete with Live without the investment of a few billion smackers. *hah* That sorta reminds me why a fair number believed the Xbox (no matter which one you look at) wouldn't be matched in performance by other competitive rivals: a lot of money was invested into it. Being the first of your kind does not mean being the last, and I think many have become so blinded by that that they can focus on anything else beyond what's infront of them.

Also, in no way do I think Live is going to cease here. I believe Robbie Bach will be adding a music store to Live either this coming E3 or later down the line.

source (http://forums.e-mpire.com/showpost.php?p=998327&postcount=25)

That is exactly what they are doing with the XMB.

LaLiLuLeLo

03-10-2007, 12:19 AM

http://www.penny-arcade.com/images/2007/20070309.jpg

VG Aficionado

03-10-2007, 12:24 AM

I was about to post that :-p I'll post this instead:

http://xs313.xs.to/xs313/07106/ken.gif

n1n9tean

03-10-2007, 12:26 AM

lol

I saw that earlier. Didn't those two RAT-BASTARDS go on a long, hateful rant against Sony at their little PAX thing (wrestler-style)?

LaLiLuLeLo

03-10-2007, 12:29 AM

They've been taking pot-shots at 'em for a while now. Sony has been dragging their feet in the mud for a while, or I should say they've made it easy for people to clown them in the media. But GDC '07 was pivotal. Penny-Arcade isn't biased, they're just vocal. They know a good thing when they see it. They're the number 1 web comic, but it's easy to forget they're just two dudes who can draw and write, and have an opinion on games like the rest of us.

I like their comics, but they aren't metal gear solid fans. the imperfection is theirs, but I don't hate 'em for it. they have tastes like any other regular person.

n1n9tean

03-10-2007, 12:42 AM

Penny-Arcade isn't biased, they're just vocal.
No. No excuses in my opinion. This whole chain-reaction found Sony as "guilty until proven innocent" with those two and everyone else jumping aboard that hate-train with Sony tied to the track up ahead.

To be tame; they lacked foresight and they judged too soon. Nobody who even gives minimal effort to be fair would declair Sony the losers of a whole generatation by TKO in the 1st round (i.e. a few months in) before they even have time to get off a serious haymaker.

EDIT: The fact that they are the number #1 web-comic makes it worse seeing as how they have such a strong following. And let's be honest; alot of them don't think for themselves very often. So here, them being "regular guys with opinions" gets to be a problem.

Sephiroth_VII

03-10-2007, 12:46 AM

With the information you've uncovered for me, LaLiLuLeLo, I've removed the comic from my RSS reader, and dispatched a team of gene-modified soldiers from Shadow Moses to take care of them :stirpot:

gozirah

03-10-2007, 12:57 AM

I think Penny Arcade has given credit to the PS3 appropriately. They were skeptical at times when Sony wasn't very forthcoming about their plans for the platform. They were excited about White Knight and flow and now for the GDC announcements. Sure, alot of Sony fans had faith all along, but PA was definitely resonating with the sentiments about many gamers concerns.
They are nothing like the kneejerk bloggers out there that spread FUD for just a few more webhits.

You can blame them for being bandwagon drivers, but IMO they give things a fair shot once they play it.

n1n9tean

03-10-2007, 01:13 AM

Sure, I respect them for parting with pride long enough to give credit where credit is due now that the time is appropriate. BUT, they also played a role as one of the major arsonists; pissing out fuel when the flames were already high. For that I ask, why? Because, it felt good to belong to that gang? Because, the laughs and cheers gave them hard woodies and a huge rush?

One thing's for sure; they certainly weren't saying anything that needed to be said.

dantruon

03-10-2007, 03:04 AM

now just let the PR and Marketing department at Sony do their jobs.

curryking1

03-10-2007, 03:12 AM

^I agree with n1n9. These sites are basically just going with the flow. They are nothing. They are worthless. All they do is spew out generalistic statements and sensationalist propaganda to get the biggest bottom line. No sense of actually 'journalistic pride' if I can call it that.

Right on the button with this 'guilty until proven innocent' garbage that everyone is on right now... what a garbage philosophy.

Frigging lame gaming sites... grow up! You are limiting the rate at which gaming can grow! Stop acting like freaking children! Become a real news site! Just report the freaking news!

Btw though... Penny Arcade isn't really the bad guy here. The real bad guys are sites like 1up, who are just plain fucking stupid.

OmniCloud

03-10-2007, 04:11 AM

I wish E-mpire had the funds and resources to be a huge site like IGN or 1up....

I don't see how you can't take pride into video-game journalism if you really are a gamer yourself:huh: The amount of effort, brains, and creativity it takes just to make a good game, let alone a game that's critically acclaimed is almost unrivaled by other medias. Report the news, state the facts, and try to be as unbiased as possible.

It's kind of nice being an early PS3 adopter though, so I don't really care what the forums and sites say. With that, and running Linux, it kinda of makes me feel "special". Some comes to my house and there like "Dude, where's the start up menu?" here just click the fox right here man...and let me show you all the other cool stuff I can do.

Someone see's the PS3-and there like "why'd you buy that? Should've got a 360 man.." Then I just put in flOw, pick up a second controller and let them play first hand for themselves. It's almost like your enlightening people when you go away from the crowd. I feel probably how Mac users have felt for a long time....

Very nice:pleased:

btw-did I mention Resistance is Freakin' Awesome!!!!

curryking1

03-10-2007, 04:53 AM

I wish E-mpire had the funds and resources to be a huge site like IGN or 1up....

I don't see how you can't take pride into video-game journalism if you really are a gamer yourself:huh: The amount of effort, brains, and creativity it takes just to make a good game, let alone a game that's critically acclaimed is almost unrivaled by other medias. Report the news, state the facts, and try to be as unbiased as possible.

News is actually supposed to stop there.

I mean, how many times does the news anchor on CBC tell us what s/he thinks? S/he doesn't. S/he reports what is actually found and what s/he has found other people think and mentions the the different perspectives of people involved or related to the subject.

They mention not only the present, not only the past, and maybe even a very general analysis of the future and possibilities based on solid evidence and reliable opinions of people directly involved. NOT based on 'the individual reporter's' opinion.

That's news. Report it.

You know what? That's probably why in 'real' news, they have so many quotes directly from the sources and parties involved, as many as possible, so you actually get the real damn picture.

If you want to let your opinion out, put it in your editorial. That's what they're for.

LaLiLuLeLo

03-10-2007, 05:26 AM

I'm not gonna derail the thread with why I don't hate penny arcade for not taking one in the chin for sony when the chips were down. They aren't journalists. They're a webcomic. Take it for what it is, and if you disagree, simply go 'hmm,' and get back to your friggin homework. That's like the dumbasses who steam-rolled dixie chicks albums for bashing bush at one of their concerts. who the f*** cares? they aren't political analysts they're just some nice bitches who can sing well. get over it. don't go looking for idols and their opinions shouldn't bother you.

back on topic.

Yay Sony isn't fooling around, IN YO FACE N***AAAA.

curryking1

03-10-2007, 05:37 AM

True say Lalilulelo, they don't really try to come off as a news site. They are more there own kind of thing. GS and IGN and 1up need some standards though.

Mainly 1up. But all of them too.