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Colin™
03-17-2003, 05:25 PM
Yep, yep.

Saddam has ~72 hours to leave Iraq or we start fucking em all up. Basically, we're definitely going to war, I see no chance of Saddam actually following what anyone says. Hell, Baghdad is making itself into a stronghold as we speak.


Commence anti/pro war sentiment.

Sandman
03-17-2003, 05:28 PM
Finally, I can't wait till' that bitch is out of power and there is no more suffering for the Iraqi people.

ambodinno mutumbooo
03-17-2003, 05:33 PM
Damn, that shit is fucked up.

The US governement has no fucking respect for population's opinions. Money rules this world, kids. It's sad but true. So fucking true.

Future Starlocke
03-17-2003, 05:38 PM
It won't be much of a battle. Al Qaeda pretty much had the same training as Iraqi soldiers, but Iraqi morale is damned low... they either fight America or have their family tree turned into an outhouse.

sagara0510
03-17-2003, 05:46 PM
i just want them to get it over with so they can lower the oil prices
i'm paying shit loads for my petrol!

ambodinno mutumbooo
03-17-2003, 05:49 PM
Originally posted by sagara0510
i just want them to get it over with so they can lower the oil prices
i'm paying shit loads for my petrol!

aiight, so you don't care if people die if you have your petrol for a cheap price? you just want them to "get over it"? ayyo, the UN is getting somehow separated and you just care about your fucking wallet.

Colin™
03-17-2003, 05:49 PM
Heartlessness!

ambodinno mutumbooo
03-17-2003, 05:50 PM
Originally posted by Colin
Heartlessness!

Individulalism, I would say.

[[tavis]]
03-17-2003, 06:08 PM
we give him notice and we bomb his ass, he's gonna have north korea bomb me, *runs to canada*:(

Future Starlocke
03-17-2003, 06:49 PM
Originally posted by sagara0510
i just want them to get it over with so they can lower the oil prices
i'm paying shit loads for my petrol!

Again, majority of our Oil comes from Kuwait... not Iraq. That's why we fought Desert Storm because Iraq wanted Kuwait to hike up prices.

Fighting for cheap gas ain't the reason we're out there...

Fugazi
03-17-2003, 07:18 PM
You're right, it's so Bush can try to start taking over the world, taking out all the major threats first.

Colin™
03-17-2003, 07:43 PM
Is Iraq really a major threat?

I'd hit China first, if I was him

Fiend
03-17-2003, 08:24 PM
really? damnit. i gotta watch the news. i really dont want to go to war. especially after i read this article where sadam is making 13 and 14 year olds train to fight if we have a war. so when we go to war. on the ground american soldiers will have to either shoot and kill these kids or get shot themselves. and dont get the wrong idea. these kids r forced by sadam threatning to not give the family their food rations.

Sandman
03-17-2003, 08:26 PM
Originally posted by HorrorFrk
really? damnit. i gotta watch the news. i really dont want to go to war. especially after i read this article where sadam is making 13 and 14 year olds train to fight if we have a war. so when we go to war. on the ground american soldiers will have to either shoot and kill these kids or get shot themselves. and dont get the wrong idea. these kids r forced by sadam threatning to not give the family their food rations. That is why we SHOULD go to war, so we can end this shit that Saddam does to his own people.

Fiend
03-17-2003, 08:31 PM
i know but still. innocent people r getting killed. theres really no good way to go here.

Sandman
03-17-2003, 08:32 PM
Yes I agree, if there were another way I think we should definitely take it, but there isn't another way because Saddam is too thick-skulled.

GameMastaJoe
03-17-2003, 08:37 PM
Originally posted by ambodinno mutumbooo
Damn, that shit is fucked up.

The US governement has no fucking respect for population's opinions. Money rules this world, kids. It's sad but true. So fucking true.

and you knw what makes it worse people who have not standards like your post look at that in 6 words you put in three cuss words what kind of launguage skills do you got. people gotta stop that man it doesnt even make sense and belive it or not no matter how you look at it it does make the world worse...people might be scared to be around you or think your some kind of gang...people may think your a druggy cause the drugs messed you up and now thats how you talk i mean come on! get it togather man its like almost the end of the world maybe acording to the bible and you people still havent got it togather.

Sandman
03-17-2003, 08:40 PM
What the hell did you just say?

GameMastaJoe
03-17-2003, 08:41 PM
Originally posted by HorrorFrk
really? damnit. i gotta watch the news. i really dont want to go to war. especially after i read this article where sadam is making 13 and 14 year olds train to fight if we have a war. so when we go to war. on the ground american soldiers will have to either shoot and kill these kids or get shot themselves. and dont get the wrong idea. these kids r forced by sadam threatning to not give the family their food rations.

given your sig and what it all says you sound kind of a satanist and that kinda junk wont blow over in this war if you die...see im trying to help people in the end and it sounds like you feel for those kids so i can tell you have good in you but you need to consider that god maybe there and if you die in this war youd go straight to hell the place of emense horrors and unbarable suffering. so dude get it togather, everyone.

ambodinno mutumbooo
03-17-2003, 08:42 PM
Originally posted by GameMastaJoe
and you knw what makes it worse people who have not standards like your post look at that in 6 words you put in three cuss words what kind of launguage skills do you got. people gotta stop that man it doesnt even make sense and belive it or not no matter how you look at it it does make the world worse...people might be scared to be around you or think your some kind of gang...people may think your a druggy cause the drugs messed you up and now thats how you talk i mean come on! get it togather man its like almost the end of the world maybe acording to the bible and you people still havent got it togather.

hmmm are you sure you okay? The end of the world acording to the bible? in some kind of gang? a druggy?

I mean, could someone tell me what the fuck is up with this kid? For real, my stuff is easier to understand than yours...

ambodinno mutumbooo
03-17-2003, 08:43 PM
Originally posted by GameMastaJoe
so dude get it togather, everyone.

Shit, if that's proper english, my name is mika.

GameMastaJoe
03-17-2003, 08:43 PM
im sayin that people need to stop cussing and realize that they could very well die and seeing as im christian im trying to save people here and if you keep on cussing and stuff and do not accept the lord in your life then...well i tried to help you.

ambodinno mutumbooo
03-17-2003, 08:44 PM
Originally posted by GameMastaJoe
im sayin that people need to stop cussing and realize that they could very well die and seeing as im christian im trying to save people here and if you keep on cussing and stuff and do not accept the lord in your life then...well i tried to help you.

wha? wha? I am against war, just like you. leave me alone with the cussing, man. it doesn't mean a shit. Too bad for you if you're a christian, kid.

GameMastaJoe
03-17-2003, 08:44 PM
ugh ok i was all like :eek: spazzed out typing that but im trying to get you to stop cussing and think that you might die and what is to come of you later.

GameMastaJoe
03-17-2003, 08:45 PM
what do you mean to bad for me if im christian!? fine go cuss all you want but atleast im tryying to help you.

oh and buddy im not against war i want this war to happen to get suddam outta here.

ambodinno mutumbooo
03-17-2003, 08:45 PM
Originally posted by GameMastaJoe
ugh ok i was all like :eek: spazzed out typing that but im trying to get you to stop cussing and think that you might die and what is to come of you later.

I am sorry to tell you but you will die as well.

Sandman
03-17-2003, 08:47 PM
I'm still trying to understand what he is trying to say..

GameMastaJoe
03-17-2003, 08:48 PM
ok...i just want you guys to think about this...if the end comes or you die and im right that there is a god then you wont make it to heaven and as my job as a christian is to help you.

ambodinno mutumbooo
03-17-2003, 08:49 PM
Originally posted by GameMastaJoe
what do you mean to bad for me if im christian!? fine go cuss all you want but atleast im tryying to help you.

oh and buddy im not against war i want this war to happen to get suddam outta here.

Oh shit, so we got a christian warrior right here!

Man, just read your posts before you post them instead of editing them 4 times like you are doing. Saying something like "oh and buddy im not against war i want this war to happen to get suddam outta here." is fucked up.

ambodinno mutumbooo
03-17-2003, 08:50 PM
Originally posted by GameMastaJoe
ok...i just want you guys to think about this...if the end comes or you die and im right that there is a god then you wont make it to heaven and as my job as a christian is to help you.

alright but if when you die there is nothing because religion is just a way to make people more secure (which is obviously true), then, you'll have wasted your time trying to convince people on the net to become christians. No, thanks.

Sandman
03-17-2003, 08:51 PM
And how are you exactly trying to help anyone? I'm still confused about that.

GameMastaJoe
03-17-2003, 08:51 PM
again with that cussing that doesnt even makes sense and how didnt my post not make sense?

and i admit im goin allitle fast with my posts here but im trying to make a point

Fiend
03-17-2003, 08:51 PM
Originally posted by GameMastaJoe
given your sig and what it all says you sound kind of a satanist and that kinda junk wont blow over in this war if you die...see im trying to help people in the end and it sounds like you feel for those kids so i can tell you have good in you but you need to consider that god maybe there and if you die in this war youd go straight to hell the place of emense horrors and unbarable suffering. so dude get it togather, everyone.

first of all im not satanist. u cant judge me by my sig considering u dont know shit about me. so what if i love horror movies, it automaticly makes me satanist? and who r u to say i will go straight to hell. and just if u wanted to know more about me. i am very religious. i am catholic and i go to a private catholic school. my family is very religious. i need to get it together? who r u a fuckin preacher?

ambodinno mutumbooo
03-17-2003, 08:52 PM
Originally posted by GameMastaJoe
again with that cussing that doesnt even makes sense and how didnt my post not make sense?

you just make too long sentences and you make way too much mistakes. All those mistakes make your posts hard to understand, it's like a mess.

Sandman
03-17-2003, 08:52 PM
Originally posted by GameMastaJoe
how didnt my post not make senseThat's how.

JackieChanIsGOD
03-17-2003, 08:53 PM
Please stop GMJ... No need to bring christianity into this convo...
Cussing won't send you to hell. Get that through your mind, and you might actually start to realize that God, or whatever is that driving force, has a good sense of what's bad and what's useless...
No more religious talk....




So... some villiagers are gonna die huh...

GameMastaJoe
03-17-2003, 08:53 PM
man im not saying that but like your sig the 3 numbers thats the mark of the devil im not saying your a satanist im saying that if you are religous you shouldnt have that.

Sandman
03-17-2003, 08:54 PM
Who the hell cares what he believes in you moron. And 666 is actually the mark of Emperor Nero.

GameMastaJoe
03-17-2003, 08:54 PM
Ok fine, no more but I am trying to help you, but since it is getting all blown out of proportion ill stop.

Sandman
03-17-2003, 08:55 PM
Tell me, how are you trying to help anyone.

GameMastaJoe
03-17-2003, 08:56 PM
you know what i just tried to spreed some good in here but i guess people wont welcome it bye.

Fiend
03-17-2003, 08:57 PM
i dont need ur religious shit. i get it every day at school. u r trying to make urself look good, not help me out. i know what the number stands for. so stop.

ambodinno mutumbooo
03-17-2003, 08:57 PM
Originally posted by GameMastaJoe
you know what i just tried to spreed some good in here but i guess people wont welcome it bye.

to be honest with you, you did the opposite.

GameMastaJoe
03-17-2003, 08:57 PM
Originally posted by Kevin
Tell me, how are you trying to help anyone.

by trying to get them to think that there could be a god, and all i want to know is if they belive in him or will they?

Fiend
03-17-2003, 08:58 PM
its none of ur buisness to know whether or not these people beleive in god. leave their beliefs alone.

GameMastaJoe
03-17-2003, 08:58 PM
right ok...now im trying to make my self look good, what does it look like you can perfectly see you and everone else in here is against me...this isnt makeing me look good. and however im doing the opposite is beyond me.

JackieChanIsGOD
03-17-2003, 09:01 PM
Ok,. guys, start talking about Bush killing people before i close this.

Sandman
03-17-2003, 09:02 PM
Bush wants to kill Jackie Chan.

JackieChanIsGOD
03-17-2003, 09:03 PM
WAH... dats impossible...
hehe, if anything, Jackie wants to kill Bush... he's totally against war...
Jackie does, however, love the chickens...

yamiyuuki
03-17-2003, 09:32 PM
I agree with HorrorFrk, we get enough of religion at school... I hope we just bomb Saddam's HQ, instead of fighting innocent kids....

JackieChanIsGOD
03-17-2003, 09:36 PM
Originally posted by yamiyuuki
I agree with HorrorFrk, we get enough of religion at school... I hope we just bomb Saddam's HQ, instead of fighting innocent kids....

Wow, someone with a little common sense! I'm glad someone here is smart. And FS is right... this war isn't about oil...
People are just seeing the gas prices go up, so they automatically assume so... Then after the war, the prices will go down, and they'll think, "Wow, we must have did good in the EErack, cuz me gas is cheeeper nah!"

yamiyuuki
03-17-2003, 09:38 PM
Thank you for the compliment, and FS is right..this thing isn't about oil...

advancemonkey
03-17-2003, 09:39 PM
Originally posted by Crescendo
You're right, it's so Bush can try to start taking over the world, taking out all the major threats first. I am going to clear somthing up. Bush is a neo-conservative they were once known for trying to spread American idealism throughout the world. This is nolonger the way neo-conservatives think and if Bush whanted world control he would take n.korea first because they have less of a chance of a revolution. This is also impossible, Americans would not accept domination of the world, we only whant security. To be blunt Bush is not trying to take the world.

As for the French "time can only bring confort to tyrants" Jack Staw

JackieChanIsGOD
03-17-2003, 09:43 PM
You want quotes... read this
Harry's music was used for the soundtrack of Beetlejuice...

HELSINKI (Reuters) - Singer Harry Belafonte, long outspoken on civil rights and political issues in the United States, has lashed out at the Bush administration saying it is "possessed of evil" for preparing war against Iraq.

The 76-year-old U.S. singer told Finnish television on Tuesday that global leaders who ignored demonstrations against a war in Iraq did so at their own peril.

Asked if he thought leaders of his own country were misguided, Belafonte, said: "Absolutely. I not only think that they are misguided, but I think they know exactly what they are doing and I think that they are men who are possessed of evil."

Belafonte, who popularized calypso music in the 1950s with hits like "Banana Boat (Day-O)" and "Jamaica Farewell," hit the headlines in October for likening Secretary of State Colin Powell to a plantation slave for selling out on Iraq.

"I don't think that (U.S. President) George Bush...is a man of honor," added Belafonte, a black man of Jamaican descent like Powell.

"I think he has a very selfish, arrogant point of view. I think he is interested in power, I think he believes his truth is the only truth, and that he will do what he wants to do despite the people," he said during a break on his Finnish tour.

advancemonkey
03-17-2003, 09:56 PM
^^^ .............. you don't like quotes, i will take them out if you would like.

yamiyuuki
03-17-2003, 09:56 PM
Thanks for contributing to the cause...We should go in, get rid of the tyrants, help the civilians, then get out....

advancemonkey
03-17-2003, 10:00 PM
^^^^ it better be more than that, we better help them make a goverment or we will have to do the same thing 10 years from now.

yamiyuuki
03-17-2003, 11:12 PM
Yeah, establish a rule not run by tyrants..

Kliq
03-17-2003, 11:16 PM
I just don't want to see lives get lost on both sides of the war.

And I know that messing with Iraq is going to trigger other terrorists out there to react in a destructive manner. They're probbaly already planning some kind of attack.

yamiyuuki
03-17-2003, 11:18 PM
Probably? We know they are, and that's why we have to erradicate them before they do...

Michael Bluth
03-17-2003, 11:22 PM
I'm pro-Bush, pro-war, pro-porn.

yamiyuuki
03-17-2003, 11:24 PM
I'm behind ya 100% except for the last one....( I'm a girl)..

David
03-17-2003, 11:27 PM
I'm pro-porn and anti-the other two. As soon as you guys attack, I'm expecting to see mushroom clouds drifting towards my house from the US...

yamiyuuki
03-17-2003, 11:29 PM
Thanks for the support, buddy...

David
03-17-2003, 11:31 PM
Hey, I'm Canadian. We're a peaceful bunch and I think that the US will get nuked if they attack. Do you honestly think that Saddam has no nukes?

Michael Bluth
03-17-2003, 11:38 PM
Originally posted by David
Hey, I'm Canadian. We're a peaceful bunch and I think that the US will get nuked if they attack. Do you honestly think that Saddam has no nukes?

Wait a second, why are we attacking him.............. oh yeah, could it be the weapons of mass destruction? And you think Canada isn't out of harm's way? Pfft. Canada is less than 30 minutes away driving time from me.

advancemonkey
03-17-2003, 11:39 PM
Originally posted by Kliq
I just don't want to see lives get lost on both sides of the war.

And I know that messing with Iraq is going to trigger other terrorists out there to react in a destructive manner. They're probbaly already planning some kind of attack. many terrorist's have decided to condem Sudam now[a exception with his hired terrorist's] i think that they realize that if they hit a westeren country they are done for.

JackieChanIsGOD
03-17-2003, 11:40 PM
I seriously think that everyone is severely misinformed about everything...

yamiyuuki
03-17-2003, 11:41 PM
Hey, if he uses radioactive nukes, you guys'll be in the same boat as us...Hello? Pay attention in class! Radioactivity spreads...Ever heard of Chernobyl??

Colin™
03-17-2003, 11:50 PM
yes i have.

ambodinno mutumbooo
03-17-2003, 11:51 PM
Originally posted by Colin
yes i have.

oh my god you are clever, colin.

yamiyuuki
03-17-2003, 11:51 PM
See, Colin knows what I'm talking about...

Dark_Cloud
03-17-2003, 11:54 PM
Originally posted by David
Hey, I'm Canadian. We're a peaceful bunch and I think that the US will get nuked if they attack. Do you honestly think that Saddam has no nukes?

Well, i respect your opinions but i disagree with them. But you have just made the best argument for our cause. Do you want us to wait before he gets enough nukes to do some serious damage? Should we wait for him to get strong enough to cause some real pain and suffering? Should we wait till he has the means to put up a decent fight, causing more casualties on both sides? Should we give him more time to plan terrorist attacks and other ways to kill inocent people? Should we let the eople of Iraq live in fear that if they speak their mind they could be taken away at night by the secret police and be tortured or even killed? You tell me what we should do.

yamiyuuki
03-17-2003, 11:56 PM
Exactly...

advancemonkey
03-18-2003, 12:01 AM
Originally posted by JackieChanIsGOD
I seriously think that everyone is severely misinformed about everything... I really doubt that anything anyone has said [except opinions] anything but facts.

yamiyuuki
03-18-2003, 12:06 AM
Isn't that all there is to say; what else:lies?

Dark_Cloud
03-18-2003, 12:07 AM
Originally posted by yamiyuuki
Isn't that all there is to say; what else:lies?

wow, i read it, but its just not making any sense.

JackieChanIsGOD
03-18-2003, 12:10 AM
It makes sense... she said there's nothing else here but lies... untruthful things...

yamiyuuki
03-18-2003, 12:12 AM
Sorry kids. Advance said only facts and opinions were here. What else is there? Thanks, Jackie.

Dark_Cloud
03-18-2003, 12:15 AM
Oh ok i get it. i didnt read monkeys post.

advancemonkey
03-18-2003, 12:17 AM
^^^noone ever does:cry2:

ambodinno mutumbooo
03-18-2003, 12:21 AM
Originally posted by advancemonkey
^^^noone ever does:cry2:

;)

Dark_Cloud
03-18-2003, 12:22 AM
yeah well at least we can get this war out of the way so the younger kids wont have to go to war. Unless this escalates into something bigger...

advancemonkey
03-18-2003, 12:25 AM
one political scientist said on cnn that the war may only last 7days-1 mounth very incouraging.

Dark_Cloud
03-18-2003, 12:28 AM
yeah but someone might get fed up with our shit and help iraq

dncardman
03-18-2003, 12:32 AM
Yeah this could escalate into something bigger and there are some that could help Iraq such as North Korea.

Dark_Cloud
03-18-2003, 12:35 AM
Originally posted by dncardman
Yeah this could escalate into something bigger and there are some that could help Iraq such as North Korea.

I wouldnt mind fighting in the desers of iraq, where you could see your enemy. its fighting hidden enimies in the jungle that scares me.

advancemonkey
03-18-2003, 12:38 AM
Originally posted by Dark_Cloud
I wouldnt mind fighting in the desers of iraq, where you could see your enemy. its fighting hidden enimies in the jungle that scares me. vietnam....... anyways someone helps Iraq they go down to.

Michael Bluth
03-18-2003, 12:38 AM
My grandpa was in the Navy in double-ya double-ya two. He kicks ass.

advancemonkey
03-18-2003, 12:41 AM
My granpa went in at the end of ww2. He taught me how to make a nuke when i was ten. He also used to be a nuclear scientist, and used to work at a nuclear reactor.

Michael Bluth
03-18-2003, 12:44 AM
Oh yeah? Well my grandpa is the reason why they now put those bars on machine guns on their naval fleet to stop them from spinning around 360 degrees. He was chasing a Jap. fighter plane and blew holes in the smoke stack. In yer face.

Dark_Cloud
03-18-2003, 12:46 AM
its not the actual building of a nuke that is hard, its getting the weapons grade plutonium that is a pickle

JackieChanIsGOD
03-18-2003, 12:46 AM
My father is Jackie Chan.........



*cool Adam*

Dark_Cloud
03-18-2003, 12:49 AM
my father is donatelo from ninja turtles!

Blaksmoke
03-18-2003, 12:50 AM
Originally posted by advancemonkey
My granpa went in at the end of ww2. He taught me how to make a nuke when i was ten. He also used to be a nuclear scientist, and used to work at a nuclear reactor.

He taught you how to build a nuke? Hmm....

Dark_Cloud
03-18-2003, 12:51 AM
he know how to build a nuke...TERRORIST!!!!!!!!!!! LINCH HIM!!!!!!!!!!!!

advancemonkey
03-18-2003, 12:54 AM
NOT AGIAN DONT TELL THE FBI LIKE THE LAST FORUM SITE.

Michael Bluth
03-18-2003, 12:55 AM
You can't even type at a fourth grade level, so I think I'm going to have to go with the "I don't believe your shit" option.

Dark_Cloud
03-18-2003, 12:55 AM
Originally posted by advancemonkey
NOT AGIAN DONT TELL THE FBI LIKE THE LAST FORUM SITE.
No, thistime i will hack you computer like i did xl hahahahahaha jk

Batmanuel
03-18-2003, 12:58 AM
If north K. attacks us we will have to be careful cause they might use South as a shield.

Dwhitten
03-18-2003, 01:00 AM
Originally posted by Kevin
Finally, I can't wait till' that bitch is out of power and there is no more suffering for the Iraqi people. Yeah but I hope that alot of Iraq citizen's are not harmed in the process of this war.

Michael Bluth
03-18-2003, 01:00 AM
No, we'd have to be careful because they'd blow up the friggin' planet.

Dark_Cloud
03-18-2003, 01:01 AM
Originally posted by Link182
If north K. attacks us we will have to be careful cause they might use South as a shield.

that is the reason we havent attacked them yet, the would anhilate S Korea

Dark_Cloud
03-18-2003, 01:03 AM
Originally posted by Phantagram
No, we'd have to be careful because they'd blow up the friggin' planet.

so true, damn asian are crazy. remember the kamikaze pilots? They will strap nukes to themselves and swim to america if they have too.

advancemonkey
03-18-2003, 01:07 AM
Put N.K. on Sanctions they will go through a revolution and the Asia becomes a lot more safe.
You can't even type at a fourth grade level, so I think I'm going to have to go with the "I don't believe your shit" option. hmm i am being underestimated.

PhixedDice
03-18-2003, 01:19 AM
Oh damn! Everyone be nice to advancemonkey or he'll build a nuke and use it with his nuclear knowledge!!!1

advancemonkey
03-18-2003, 01:29 AM
;) thats right. Boom you are all dead. j/k Like i will ever get the material. And he just told me the ingrediants and were to put them in a a-bomb. not how to put one together.

yamiyuuki
03-18-2003, 02:17 AM
Yeah, he's telling the truth...his SMARTER sister is my best friend....don't worry, I don't think he can put it together...Are they allowed to give out that info? I thought that was strictly confidential...

Blaksmoke
03-18-2003, 02:18 AM
Yes, I'm sure it is. Don't worry about it.

yamiyuuki
03-18-2003, 02:21 AM
I don't....

Michael Bluth
03-18-2003, 02:24 AM
You do realize only the smartest men in the world are capable of building a nuclear bomb? Which costs millions of dollars, might I add? Putting a broken glowstick in a Pepsi bottle and then inserting a lit bottle rocket is not a nuclear weapon, I hope you know.

yamiyuuki
03-18-2003, 02:28 AM
No, honestly, he does know how....I am scared of him now...

JackieChanIsGOD
03-18-2003, 02:33 AM
Bah, he could have got that info from the anarchists cook book or something... don't be scared...
I could make up stuff too...
First you need 1,000,000 transistors... copper wireing, some silicon, a stamper, and some plutonium... take transistor one......

hehe
He's just a dink with some information... He's probably like this guy Rich i know... a little kid who thinks to hard...

yamiyuuki
03-18-2003, 02:39 AM
No, I'm serious...Thank you for your concern. I appreciate it. I have known Advance and his twin sister (my best friend) for eight years, and he's a leading authority on wars and conflict (maybe cause of all their sibling rivalry)... Their grandpa taught them everything they know about it, including the bomb stuff...

JackieChanIsGOD
03-18-2003, 02:43 AM
Oh ok... i never knew...
But don't be scared...

Michael Bluth
03-18-2003, 02:44 AM
If he is the "leading" authority on wars and conflict, then we're all in some serious, serious, SERIOUS deep shit.

yamiyuuki
03-18-2003, 02:45 AM
I still am scared...you guys have never seen him in action; there's lots to be scared of...

JackieChanIsGOD
03-18-2003, 02:47 AM
You haven't seen me or Adam (Phanta) in action...
:D:D

Michael Bluth
03-18-2003, 02:49 AM
Hell no she hasn't.

yamiyuuki
03-18-2003, 02:50 AM
God, I didn't mean that way...Thanks for that, though...you guys always make me laugh...

JackieChanIsGOD
03-18-2003, 02:52 AM
hehe, that's what we're here for...
Seriously, i don't worry about much these days...

David
03-18-2003, 02:52 AM
Originally posted by yamiyuuki
Hey, if he uses radioactive nukes, you guys'll be in the same boat as us...Hello? Pay attention in class! Radioactivity spreads...Ever heard of Chernobyl??

Holy fuck! How stupid do you think I am. Chemistry and physics are my two best classes. Yes, radioactivity spreads, but it just very, very weak over longer distances. Sure we're close to the US, but there's not many large American cities near the canadian border(other than detroit).

Chernoby was totally different, it was much more large scale than any bomb is. It was a whole nuclear reactor, not just one missile. Look at Hiroshima, see how far that radioactivity spread.

Do you ever know what radioactivity is yamiyuuki? If you did, then you wouldn't be so scared of it, you're exposed to it everyday. And you're not even close enough to Iraq to be targetted, Britain is the one who is in trouble.

advancemonkey, you couldn't make a nuke if your life depended on it. Even if by some weird luck you were able to make one, you'd be dead from the radiation poisoning before you could launch it as you probably have no idea how to shield radiation.

Michael Bluth
03-18-2003, 03:01 AM
Detroit what!!!!!!!!!!

David
03-18-2003, 03:02 AM
Detroit is the closest large American city to the Canadian border.

yamiyuuki
03-18-2003, 03:05 AM
No, chikushoume, I'm not scared of radioactivity...Was I even specifically speaking to you? The affects of radiation are still in Hiroshima and Japan.. It's affected by weather patterns, too, and the stratosphere, and ozone....I think Advance can do it...Haven't you ever heard that geniuses are eccentric? Thanks Phantagram and Jackie....I love you guys(seriously)

Michael Bluth
03-18-2003, 03:19 AM
Originally posted by yamiyuuki
Haven't you ever heard that geniuses are eccentric?

I hear they learn how to type properly, myself. ;)

advancemonkey
03-18-2003, 03:35 AM
It is time, Bush has just said on wendsday March, 19th America will be at war. The ground work has begun. Let us hope this will be a quick war with the Iraqi people not fighting us but welcoming us. It is the beginning of the end of Suddam he better beware, we are coming. If you watched Bush's address you could see this was no easy disscion for him to make.

The relevance of the un has dwindeled these events will be put in the history books as the Un's faliure to act.

yamiyuuki
03-18-2003, 03:40 AM
Thank you Phantagram (if that's directed at me).... If you see Jackie, tell him to get on....

Batmanuel
03-18-2003, 04:02 AM
Originally posted by Phantagram
Hell no she hasn't.
ha look at them go.

advancemonkey
03-18-2003, 04:11 AM
Originally posted by David
advancemonkey, you couldn't make a nuke if your life depended on it. Even if by some weird luck you were able to make one, you'd be dead from the radiation poisoning before you could launch it as you probably have no idea how to shield radiation. Wow someone shure thinks a lot of themselves, not very modest are we. Led is the awnser to your question i knew that since i was six. Moccing people's intellagance is not a good way to get your point across. I don't know you i don't know how smart you are, but i can garentee you are underestimating my knoledge, and in which you have no clue how smart i am. Keep flaming out of threads.

Travis
03-18-2003, 04:11 AM
Yay. We finally make some kind of effort to make the world safer by removing people, not paying them out the ass to get them to do what we say. I'm so fucking happy that Gore isn't in office...

yamiyuuki
03-18-2003, 04:15 AM
Yeah, if anyone deserves to be flamed, it's David...

advancemonkey
03-18-2003, 04:16 AM
Originally posted by Suzuki Fanboy
Yay. We finally make some kind of effort to make the world safer by removing people, not paying them out the ass to get them to do what we say. I'm so fucking happy that Gore isn't in office... Unfortuantly we have vittaly hurt the u.n. on these matters, although they are very ineffective, they will probally all ways stay that way.

yamiyuuki
03-18-2003, 04:18 AM
For the last time: Why do we need the U.N.'s support? Please answer me...

Sandman
03-18-2003, 04:21 AM
I am confused about David.. he thinks Iraq will shoot nukes at us if we attack, but he thinks we are just attacking to take over the world or steal their oil. NUKES and other weapons are part of the reason we are attacking them.. this is why Saddam has to go.

dncardman
03-18-2003, 04:22 AM
We don't and we shouldn't have even tryed we could have just gone in there without asking them for help and there wouldn't be some of these problems.

yamiyuuki
03-18-2003, 04:24 AM
Yeah, like Nike says: JUST DO IT!!!!

advancemonkey
03-18-2003, 04:24 AM
The U.N. was made for natural security without it world war is pretty inevitable. Now the U.S. may have to take the role of the world police which is slowly happening. Are economy can not take that and our people will not accept it. We need other countries to help us but you are right yuuki we nolonger need them if ever. The u.n. is dying and soon it will be another legue of nations. They don't act effectivly during crisis's.

yamiyuuki
03-18-2003, 04:26 AM
Probably..accomplishing nothing...thanks for spelling my name right..

Dark_Cloud
03-18-2003, 04:26 AM
now now now, calm down there, you guys are all getting a little to excited. you can go on the internet and find out how to make a nuke it isnt realy that hard to do. The reason why everyone doesnt have their own personal nuke is because it is almost impossible to get plutonium since the US made that no nuke treaty. The hardest part about making the nuke was that they had to make everything up. They didnt have a book that told them how to do it or even if it could be done. Thats why only the smartest people in the world could do it. I may be mistaken but i remember hearing of a college student who made a nuclear bomb in his appartment then called the media and stuff. and besides, I am the leading authority on war and conflict. plus, i spell much better:)

yamiyuuki
03-18-2003, 04:28 AM
Maybe, but you don't capitalize...

Dark_Cloud
03-18-2003, 04:28 AM
capatalizing is for shmucks

advancemonkey
03-18-2003, 04:29 AM
I soppose i only am making things worst here, but i have converted every single person at my school to support the war.

yamiyuuki
03-18-2003, 04:30 AM
Except Sito....(don't start to spam)

Dark_Cloud
03-18-2003, 04:30 AM
hehehe making an army of little middle school kids. hey, you could probably take over cuba or something.

advancemonkey
03-18-2003, 04:31 AM
Originally posted by yamiyuuki
Except Sito....(don't start to spam) Don't speek of my faliures. :cry2: Stupid teacher.
Soon the whole grade will be at my command though, mya hahahahahaha

Dark_Cloud
03-18-2003, 04:37 AM
yo man, cut me in on this deal. train your peers in the great art of assasination and infiltration. You can have like a middle school taliban

yamiyuuki
03-18-2003, 04:37 AM
Keep dreaming....

Sandman
03-18-2003, 04:38 AM
Advance, we both live in Cincinnati.. we are blessed with a highly conservative area.

advancemonkey
03-18-2003, 04:38 AM
Originally posted by Dark_Cloud
yo man, cut me in on this deal. train your peers in the great art of assasination and infiltration. You can have like a middle school taliban I will make my own 8th grade militia it will be so cool.Advance, we both live in Cincinnati.. we are blessed with a highly conservative area. I know it helped my ideal's grow without to much opposition. But many peers were agianst the war after a speech my teecher made, I have been able to bring them all back to the conservative side. maybe i will begin old neo-conservatism.

Dark_Cloud
03-18-2003, 04:39 AM
a highly boring area is more like it j/k

yamiyuuki
03-18-2003, 04:40 AM
How are you going to get people to follow you? Brainwash them with too much schoolwork??

Dark_Cloud
03-18-2003, 04:43 AM
hell no, they hate schoolwork. if you wanna brain wash someone you start off small. make a club or something. then little by little you close your fist. Just start with little shit like making them do your homework or something. then chain them up link by link. by the time they find out they have been played it will already be too late and they will be compleaty under my control hahahahahahqaha

advancemonkey
03-18-2003, 04:45 AM
I will brain wash them by poisening the drinking water.

yamiyuuki
03-18-2003, 04:45 AM
I heard brainwashing included lack of food and sleep...too much homework decreases the intake of both....

advancemonkey
03-18-2003, 04:48 AM
How the hell i am i gonna stop making them eat....................... i have it i will put together a food strike agianst homework so then i can control there minds.:evillaugh :evillaugh :evillaugh

Dark_Cloud
03-18-2003, 04:49 AM
Originally posted by yamiyuuki
I heard brainwashing included lack of food and sleep...too much homework decreases the intake of both....

yes, ,but many middle school student dont do their homework anyway. i need more than the geeks. i also need my go to guys in case a plan goes bad. then they can use hand to hand combat.

Dark_Cloud
03-18-2003, 04:51 AM
Originally posted by advancemonkey
How the hell i am i gonna stop making them eat....................... i have it i will put together a food strike agianst homework so then i can control there minds.:evillaugh :evillaugh :evillaugh

Amature. dont stop them from eating, ,feed them something that is so low in nutritional value that its like starving them and they dont even know sorry bout the double post

Sandman
03-18-2003, 04:52 AM
So are we still talking about war or what? I'm lost... :confused:

advancemonkey
03-18-2003, 04:52 AM
This has gone a bit off topic. All the antiBush fiends are gone.

yamiyuuki
03-18-2003, 04:54 AM
Um..not a lot of people fight at our school...I took kickboxing, but I'm a girl...

Dark_Cloud
03-18-2003, 04:56 AM
hmm, im thinking about starting a cult. any one wanna join. you dont have to pay any taxes:uhh:

advancemonkey
03-18-2003, 04:57 AM
I am in. Finnaly i am in a cult i will soon take it over and............

Dark_Cloud
03-18-2003, 04:59 AM
yeah right, i have the wits of a fox. the only way to beat me is to kill me in my sleep. and even then, i will put up a good fight. we should stop spamming and get back to the tpoic


KILL SADAM WOHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

yamiyuuki
03-18-2003, 05:00 AM
Right.....

advancemonkey
03-18-2003, 05:01 AM
We should bomb the ass right now and watch him burn.

Dark_Cloud
03-18-2003, 05:01 AM
Originally posted by yamiyuuki
Right.....

ah, you agree with me. score one for me hahahahaha

advancemonkey
03-18-2003, 05:04 AM
Originally posted by Dark_Cloud
yeah right, i have the wits of a fox. the only way to beat me is to kill me in my sleep. and even then, i will put up a good fight. we should stop spamming and get back to the tpoic


KILL SADAM WOHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO I wasn't plotting agianst you "monkeys mind [wait till tommorow dark cloud wait till tommorow]"

mAYBE Suddam will leave hey it could happen.

David
03-18-2003, 05:04 AM
Originally posted by Kevin
I am confused about David.. he thinks Iraq will shoot nukes at us if we attack, but he thinks we are just attacking to take over the world or steal their oil. NUKES and other weapons are part of the reason we are attacking them.. this is why Saddam has to go.

When did I say that you were just trying to take their oil? That may be a reason, but it's a very small one. You get more oil from Canada and Venezuela than you get from Iraq.

Yes, you guys will get attacked if you attack them. I think so and Bush said so in his speech.

I want to see a weapons inspection in the US before I see a UN sanctioned war in Iraq. I've said it many times, this is a very hypocritical war.

Dark_Cloud
03-18-2003, 05:06 AM
Originally posted by David
When did I say that you were just trying to take their oil? That may be a reason, but it's a very small one. You get more oil from Canada and Venezuela than you get from Iraq.

Yes, you guys will get attacked if you attack them. I think so and Bush said so in his speech.

I want to see a weapons inspection in the US before I see a UN sanctioned war in Iraq. I've said it many times, this is a very hypocritical war.

yeah but whut makes you think that a dictator who tortures and killes his own people will show the UN his weapons?

yamiyuuki
03-18-2003, 05:06 AM
Sorry, kid. I meant it in a sarcastic way..But remember, we're all in this together, and I'm pulling for ya...

advancemonkey
03-18-2003, 05:07 AM
hmmmmmm maybe you never knew but Iraq signed a armistance stating it would never use them agian after using them on there people. We have done nothing to desseve our weopons from being taken.

David
03-18-2003, 05:08 AM
Dark_Cloud, I know that Saddam has weapons. Even the UN has found evidence of them. But why should the US be persecuting them for these weapons when we cannot be sure whether you have them or not. Personally, I'm sure that the US has as bad of weapons as Saddam, if not worse.

Dark_Cloud
03-18-2003, 05:08 AM
Originally posted by yamiyuuki
Sorry, kid. I meant it in a sarcastic way..But remember, we're all in this together, and I'm pulling for ya...

i know, i was using sarcasm to couter act your sarcasm. genius isnt it!

Sandman
03-18-2003, 05:09 AM
Originally posted by David
I want to see a weapons inspection in the US before I see a UN sanctioned war in Iraq. I've said it many times, this is a very hypocritical war. I do agree with that in a way. I have a feeling that the U.S. has tons of nukes. I doubt we have any bio-weapons. However, we aren't going to shoot nukes at people because of a different culture or something stupid like that.

yamiyuuki
03-18-2003, 05:10 AM
Ingenious....

David
03-18-2003, 05:11 AM
I know they signed a treaty saying they wouldn't use those weapons again. We all know that treaties don't solve anything, they never have and never will.

I don't care whether you've done nothing to deserve your weapons from being taken. The point of this war is that no country should have biological and chemical weapons, but even you yourself believe that the US has them. Why should you be persecuted others? You've done nothing to make me believe that you wouldn't use chemistry, biological, or even a neutron bomb on another country.

Dark_Cloud
03-18-2003, 05:12 AM
Originally posted by David
Dark_Cloud, I know that Saddam has weapons. Even the UN has found evidence of them. But why should the US be persecuting them for these weapons when we cannot be sure whether you have them or not. Personally, I'm sure that the US has as bad of weapons as Saddam, if not worse.

because they lost in a war to us. the signed a treaty saying that if they had weapons like that they would be attacked. i see your point though. Im sure we have WAY worse weapons than that. but the US has a better image. we uphold freedom and liberty yada yada yada. I know we are assholes, but they should have thought of that before they attacked Kuwait and basicaly skrewed themselves. Now they will be under our watchfull eye.

David
03-18-2003, 05:13 AM
The US has 20,000 nukes. Russia has the most though, they have almost 30,000 nukes.

yamiyuuki
03-18-2003, 05:14 AM
We're like the peacekeepers...

advancemonkey
03-18-2003, 05:15 AM
Originally posted by David
Dark_Cloud, I know that Saddam has weapons. Even the UN has found evidence of them. But why should the US be persecuting them for these weapons when we cannot be sure whether you have them or not. Personally, I'm sure that the US has as bad of weapons as Saddam, if not worse. That's not the point he used them agianst his own people and kuwaities after which he was forced to sign a armistence never to obtain weopons of mass destruction. We have never used those weopons agianst another country except ww2 and that was during war, and we did it to save more lives Iraq gassed the kuwaities just to kill them. and we have definetly never used them agianst our own country.

David
03-18-2003, 05:17 AM
Originally posted by advancemonkey
That's not the point he used them agianst his own people and kuwaities after which he was forced to sign a armistence never to obtain weopons of mass destruction. We have never used those weopons agianst another country except ww2 and that was during war, and we did it to save more lives Iraq gassed the kuwaities just to kill them. and we have definetly never used them agianst our own country.

Right there you just answered why I don't think you should ever use a nuke.

"We did it during war" - So? Does that fact alone make it morally right to kill thousands upon thousands of innocent civilians?

advancemonkey
03-18-2003, 05:18 AM
Originally posted by David
I know they signed a treaty saying they wouldn't use those weapons again. We all know that treaties don't solve anything, they never have and never will.

I don't care whether you've done nothing to deserve your weapons from being taken. The point of this war is that no country should have biological and chemical weapons, but even you yourself believe that the US has them. Why should you be persecuted others? You've done nothing to make me believe that you wouldn't use chemistry, biological, or even a neutron bomb on another country. what would you think if your country used those weapons without a real reason. We live in a republic that insures that will not happen. Yes your country has em to.

advancemonkey
03-18-2003, 05:19 AM
Originally posted by David
Right there you just answered why I don't think you should ever use a nuke.

"We did it during war" - So? Does that fact alone make it morally right to kill thousands upon thousands of innocent civilians? We did it to save millions more so there for yes it does.

David
03-18-2003, 05:21 AM
You think we have nukes? Hah! Go do some research. Our government doesn't have enough funding to even provide ammo and new equipment for our troops. We've never had a nuke and we don't right now.

Even if we had the money, we wouldn't get nukes. We're under the commonwealth and you guys have enough weapons to destroy the world hundreds of times so why do we need any more?

David
03-18-2003, 05:21 AM
Originally posted by advancemonkey
We did it to save millions more so there for yes it does.

Because we all know how Japan had nukes and would've killed millions of people...

advancemonkey
03-18-2003, 05:23 AM
Japan is a island. During ww2 that island was converted to a fortess. A fortess that would have took 10 mill soldiers to break not including enemy casualities

Dark_Cloud
03-18-2003, 05:26 AM
Originally posted by David
I know they signed a treaty saying they wouldn't use those weapons again. We all know that treaties don't solve anything, they never have and never will.

I don't care whether you've done nothing to deserve your weapons from being taken. The point of this war is that no country should have biological and chemical weapons, but even you yourself believe that the US has them. Why should you be persecuted others? You've done nothing to make me believe that you wouldn't use chemistry, biological, or even a neutron bomb on another country.

No, you have totaly missed the point of this war. If they had these weapons no one would care. sadam has already proved he is not to be trusted with chamical weapons. When he was in a war against Iran he uses chamical weapons to win the war. We didnt do anything. but when we finally had to go in there and take their toys, it was the last straw. If they have shown that they misuse these weapons, then they cannot have them period. It would be hypacritical for us to say that countrys cant have these weapons. it is not hypacritacal if we say that they cant have these weapons after we already beat them and told them that if they did this than we would attack them.

David
03-18-2003, 05:26 AM
If you would've used normal bombs I would've had no problem whatsoever with it. If you had used a bomb with the power of a nuke but with no radiation I wouldn't have had a problem with it.

But when you purposely kill millions of innocent civilians that may or may not have even wanted a war, then I've got a problem with it. You were winning the sea and air war. If you would've waited another 6 months, you would've have total control of the air and sea so you could bomb or shell the heck out of them and forced a surrender that way.

advancemonkey
03-18-2003, 05:27 AM
Originally posted by Dark_Cloud
No, you have totaly missed the point of this war. If they had these weapons no one would care. sadam has already proved he is not to be trusted with chamical weapons. When he was in a war against Iran he uses chamical weapons to win the war. We didnt do anything. but when we finally had to go in there and take their toys, it was the last straw. If they have shown that they misuse these weapons, then they cannot have them period. It would be hypacritical for us to say that countrys cant have these weapons. it is not hypacritacal if we say that they cant have these weapons after we already beat them and told them that if they did this than we would attack them. thank you.

David
03-18-2003, 05:29 AM
If the US gets rid of their chemical and biological weapons and then stops their own nuclear program then I'll have no problem with the war. But I wouldn't be surprised if you have to use chemical and biological weapons when this turns into guerrila warfare like in Vietnam. The Iraqis will just sit in the towns as they'll have a much better chance of defeating you then.

advancemonkey
03-18-2003, 05:30 AM
Originally posted by David
If you would've used normal bombs I would've had no problem whatsoever with it. If you had used a bomb with the power of a nuke but with no radiation I wouldn't have had a problem with it.

But when you purposely kill millions of innocent civilians that may or may not have even wanted a war, then I've got a problem with it. You were winning the sea and air war. If you would've waited another 6 months, you would've have total control of the air and sea so you could bomb or shell the heck out of them and forced a surrender that way. uhhhh no. conventinal bombs sucked back then. People were saying millions would die if the war would continue. Yes it sounds cruel but would you choose thousends over millions.

Dark_Cloud
03-18-2003, 05:30 AM
Originally posted by David
If you would've used normal bombs I would've had no problem whatsoever with it. If you had used a bomb with the power of a nuke but with no radiation I wouldn't have had a problem with it.

But when you purposely kill millions of innocent civilians that may or may not have even wanted a war, then I've got a problem with it. You were winning the sea and air war. If you would've waited another 6 months, you would've have total control of the air and sea so you could bomb or shell the heck out of them and forced a surrender that way.

I do agree with you on that one. the US didnt drop the nuke to win the war, they did it so they wuld have leverage against russia in the negotiations for deviding up europe

David
03-18-2003, 05:33 AM
It seems I have split Dark_Cloud and advancemonkey's opinions. Advantage me.

advancemonkey, obviously, you don't know what a constant bombing and shelling of Japan would've done. Did you see what was left of England at the end of WWII? All the buildings were destroyed and the most powerful weapon of all, fear, was in the hearts of the English.

advancemonkey
03-18-2003, 05:34 AM
Originally posted by David
If the US gets rid of their chemical and biological weapons and then stops their own nuclear program then I'll have no problem with the war. But I wouldn't be surprised if you have to use chemical and biological weapons when this turns into guerrila warfare like in Vietnam. The Iraqis will just sit in the towns as they'll have a much better chance of defeating you then. Oh for God sakes we won't give our nukes up samr reason you won't. We need them for protection we would get blown up if we didn't have those nukes. We are decreasing the number we have thanks to BUSH. We get bombed we bomb back with the same thing they hit us with. No this is not Vietnam we are invading not defending this is gonna be like Afghanistan. Those bombs keep us safe meet the real world.

David
03-18-2003, 05:36 AM
advancemonkey, once again, CANADA HAS NO NUKES. WE NEVER HAVE!

This will be another Vietnam in the sense that the war will not be fought the American way(barge in and fire madly), it will be a guerrila war. You will be fighting with lots of cover and not knowing the terrain that you are fighting on. It will be a huge advantage for the Iraqis and unless you use nukes, which I think you will, you will suffer heavy casualties.

advancemonkey
03-18-2003, 05:36 AM
Originally posted by David
It seems I have split Dark_Cloud and advancemonkey's opinions. Advantage me.

advancemonkey, obviously, you don't know what a constant bombing and shelling of Japan would've done. Did you see what was left of England at the end of WWII? All the buildings were destroyed and the most powerful weapon of all, fear, was in the hearts of the English. 5 yeears of bombings five years after a while it would have exceeded the amounts killed by the two a-bombs. We would of had to invade fyi those bombings saved lives a lot of them.

Dark_Cloud
03-18-2003, 05:38 AM
Originally posted by David
It seems I have split Dark_Cloud and advancemonkey's opinions. Advantage me.

advancemonkey, obviously, you don't know what a constant bombing and shelling of Japan would've done. Did you see what was left of England at the end of WWII? All the buildings were destroyed and the most powerful weapon of all, fear, was in the hearts of the English.

You have devided our opinion on one issue but it wont win you that war. the truth is, i hate nukes. i think it was mankinds biggest mistake to make them. I think we should destroy all our nukes and that would be then end of it. but i know that isnt realistic. we need those. if a terrorist got their hands on a nuke and the US was left defenseless then that wuold be bad. .

advancemonkey
03-18-2003, 05:39 AM
Originally posted by Dark_Cloud
You have devided our opinion on one issue but it wont win you that war. the truth is, i hate nukes. i think it was mankinds biggest mistake to make them. I think we should destroy all our nukes and that would be then end of it. but i know that isnt realistic. we need those. if a terrorist got their hands on a nuke and the US was left defenseless then that wuold be bad. . united we stand divided we fall

David
03-18-2003, 05:39 AM
advancemonkey, the three most powerful weapons of war go in this order: fear, media, and intelligence.

You wouldn't instilled fear in there hearts after a week of constant bombing and shelling. Their morale would've been demolished and they would've surrendered soon enough as they would be cornered on their little island.

Dark_Cloud
03-18-2003, 05:41 AM
david, are you the same david that writes for nnow?

David
03-18-2003, 05:43 AM
Yes I am Dark_Cloud.

advancemonkey
03-18-2003, 05:44 AM
Wrong so wrong these points bare screwed up you aren't being realistic invasion had to follow the army would not give and it would regrow. Media the goverment owned plus they owned more fear than we would have ever gotten. They were like the British never give in never surrender. They had a lot of pride in there goverment like the British and Hitler never did destroy thier moral You are not going to throw a wrench in how i believe that war should of been one.

Dark_Cloud
03-18-2003, 05:45 AM
ah, as i thought. I must say you have quite superb writing skills

David
03-18-2003, 05:47 AM
Put yourself in the place of Japan.

You are cornered by a much larger and stronger person. He keeps attacking you and you are getting hurt bad. Do you try and strike back or try and get out the war and try to fight another day? You surrender and try and bulk up so you can beat them.

Japan surredered and rebuild there army and showed that people can change. They're no longer mad at the US and are quite good friends with them.

David
03-18-2003, 05:48 AM
Thanks for the compliment Dark_Cloud. Not sure about you two, but I like conflict and having this little debate with you two.

advancemonkey
03-18-2003, 05:50 AM
They thought that there way of life would have been destroyed they knew they could win if they played defensivly and killed as many as they could America looses home support very quickly, which is our biggest flaw. We would not continue if 10 mill soldiers died.
debates are fun i love debates......... until i see blood.j/k

David
03-18-2003, 05:51 AM
10 million soldiers die? Hah! Not a chance, do you know how many soldiers died during the 7 years of WWII?

yamiyuuki
03-18-2003, 05:52 AM
You guys having fun??

advancemonkey
03-18-2003, 05:53 AM
oh God i can't remeber around 200,000 , We got it easy though Russia lost 30 mill people in 7 years. we faught with many other nations agianst japan it would just be us and the British.

David
03-18-2003, 05:56 AM
Yeah, Russia was the major player in WWII despite what most people think.

You wouldn't have lost 10 million people in Japan. The US never would've been stupid enough to believe that they could invade Japan with any amount of people.

And yes yamiyuuki, we're having fun.

advancemonkey
03-18-2003, 05:58 AM
I can't continue it's midnight where i live i am off

David
03-18-2003, 05:58 AM
Okay, thanks for participating advancemonkey, it's only 9 here.

Dark_Cloud
03-18-2003, 06:02 AM
Originally posted by David
Put yourself in the place of Japan.

You are cornered by a much larger and stronger person. He keeps attacking you and you are getting hurt bad. Do you try and strike back or try and get out the war and try to fight another day? You surrender and try and bulk up so you can beat them.

Japan surredered and rebuild there army and showed that people can change. They're no longer mad at the US and are quite good friends with them.

hahahaha, thats realy funny actualy. Ever heard of pearl harbor? yeah, i thought so. if im not mistaken, THEY ATTACKED US!!!! They brought the full wrath of the united states down on them. They were in league with hitler. Ever heard of the Axis powers. Germany, Italy and japan. 3 fascist countries that had nothing in mind but their damn imperialistic views. They invaded China for gods sake. your acting like we they were the victims. And the terms for surrender restricted their army size. we actualy did them a favor. Now they have the army of the US protecting them and they dont even have to put up that kind of cash. I realy respected you untill that comment. you obviously have no idea about what happens to defeated countrys. They do not get the chance to come back and fight again. Thats exactaly what was learned from Germany. oh man, i dont wanna type alot and Im gonna go watch the rest of the blazer game. But seriously, think before you say stuff like that. Japan, the innocent country cornered by the big bad US. They surrendered but looked deep in thier harts and forgave us. Thats is not only wrong, but it is a insult to anyone who died fighting for the US. I realy dont care if you like the US, or even me for that matter. But please, before you go saying anything, just think for a second.

Colin™
03-18-2003, 06:04 AM
not just restricted, they don't have an army anymore.

David
03-18-2003, 06:05 AM
Dark_Cloud, that wasn't all about the war with Japan, it was just about the US surrounding Japan with warships and then bombing and shelling the hell out of Japan. I said they'd surrender if the US did that, advancemonkey didn't think they would.

yamiyuuki
03-18-2003, 06:12 AM
The Japanese would rather commit suicide than surrender....Ever heard of Kamikazes????

David
03-18-2003, 06:22 AM
Yes, and that was the reason why they lost the airwar. All their good pilots were kamikazes so they lost their good pilots and their planes. They had untrained pilots and a short supply of planes.

Dark_Cloud
03-18-2003, 06:22 AM
wow, we realy did have quite the debate here. to tell you the truth, i dont even know if i support the war or not. im just arguing for the sheer fact that you dont like the US so i take the opposite side. I actualy am talking bad about the war in some threads. it just goes to show you how devided our country is. thats why i have a hard time with people who hate america. America is alot of different people with different ideas. I bet you didnt know that more than half the people disaprove of the war. All i can do is put my faith in the government system that so many people died to protect. I can just hope that my government knows something that i dont. im just hoping that my fellow americans elected a man that has the best interest of the United States of America at heart. There is a thing called Nationalism, a deep pride for ones country. I just imagine that my government is as bad as sadam. Then i think about who will be there to rescue us. If there wasnt country's like the US who care about the peole in another country then what kind of world would we be living in. Maybe the freedom of the Iraq people might not be the top priority of the war, but we can use the war as a way to bring about peace and happyness to all the people of iraq. i think that all people deserve to have the same rights. The rights that you and me have taken for granted. im leaving now but im using this as my final statement and as a closing to this debate. If you could kill sadam and rescue one person, would you? It may be doing some evil, but there is some benefit. You dont have to agree with me, but i just think you should know why i am the way i am. And why i support my country no matter what it does. Because i still think that the princpals that the found fathers founded this country on are still alive today.

yamiyuuki
03-18-2003, 06:25 AM
Aww, that was heartfelt..Wow, I'm proud of you guys because you didn't cuss each other out.....

David
03-18-2003, 06:25 AM
I don't hate America. I hate the government of America.

David
03-18-2003, 06:26 AM
Naw, Phantagram wasn't here so no cussing really occurred.

yamiyuuki
03-18-2003, 06:27 AM
Don't start, or you'll have me, Jackie, and Phantagram to deal with....

Jesus
03-18-2003, 06:31 AM
Hmmm sounds cooky. I'll tell you whats gunna happen. Us aussies'll come blast shitand Korea will shit themselves and blow themselves up.

Boo-YA

David
03-18-2003, 06:32 AM
yamiyuuki, almost no matter what I do, I won't get banned. I'm a staff member here so I have powers like you wouldn't believe.

I like arguing with people. You know which TV shows have the best ratings? The ones with conflict in them.

HellSpawn
03-18-2003, 06:36 AM
hmm, i like arguing with people too. Goddamn it david i hate canada and BC and i hate nnow and i hate your staff possition!!

j/k

c'mon man, hook me up wit a mod possition

j/k

Dark_Cloud
03-18-2003, 06:48 AM
Originally posted by David
yamiyuuki, almost no matter what I do, I won't get banned. I'm a staff member here so I have powers like you wouldn't believe.

I like arguing with people. You know which TV shows have the best ratings? The ones with conflict in them.

hehehe, thats what FutureStarlock thought...

yo man, hook me up wit a mod possition too jk

David
03-18-2003, 06:54 AM
Ahh, but you see, FS and I are different, I don't post pics of my tighty whities. But seriously, if I was banned, I'd just leave here and not come back. No biggie, I'll go to some of the other forums I visit.

HellSpawn
03-18-2003, 06:56 AM
Check this out. This is the people who posted most in this thread. jesus you guys are like machines!

User Posts
advancemonkey 39
yamiyuuki 38
Dark_Cloud 34
David 28

Jesus
03-18-2003, 07:06 AM
this war IMHO is orettty cool. But on the other hand is dank and uninviting. The only real good thing bout war is the dropof population. I mean look I don't want no AUstralian population the size of INDIA.

David
03-18-2003, 07:11 AM
I know, it's quite sad actually HellSpawn, especially considering I didn't post until the 3rd page.

Fiend
03-18-2003, 07:14 AM
this war situation feels like a story my grandparents would be telling me or other older people.

Ridley the magic dragon
03-18-2003, 07:28 AM
^^Pin head kicks ass!!!!!!!!

Fiend
03-18-2003, 07:40 AM
i know he does. but that is off topic.

Ridley the magic dragon
03-18-2003, 08:08 AM
Oh right the war, well dark_cloud and david made some good points (great debate by the way) i really hope that there isnt a war but there will be. i got two good freinds that have already been shipped out, and i feel for their families.........

Relient J
03-18-2003, 08:10 AM
Wow, this is the biggest thread that I have seen in the rather short time that I have been a forum member, and a lot of interesting positions have been put forth on a myriad of issues. I only wish I had come to the debate earlier. For the record, here's my two cents:

A lot of people (not just in the forums, but in general) have been saying that this war is to be fought over Iraq's oil. Given the materialistic nature of our society, that argument makes some sense until you consider the facts. There's an interesting editorial in the April 2003 issue of Car And Driver magazine about oil. As it turns out only about 4 cents out of every dollar goes to purchase Iraqi oil. As Future Starlocke pointed out, much more or our Middle Eastern oil comes from Kuwait.

Although I personally am against war in all forms, I pray this will ultimately achieve some good. After the Second World War, America and her allies worked very hard to rebuild West Germany, and make it a democracy. It was a so successful that only a few years after the war West Germany was allowed to join NATO. Today Germany is a peaceful nation which provides about 25% of the economic backbone of the European Union.

Lastly, a lot of people have derided President Bush for not being concerned with the publics wishes regarding the war. However, our country is not now, nor has it ever been a true democracy. Rather, we have always been a democratic republic in which we elect our leaders to make the tough national decisions for us. Although our presidents should always be concerned about public opinion, they should above all act as their information and their hearts lead.

Fiend
03-18-2003, 08:18 AM
some things about this war are stupid. for example in the county that i live in, in fl has passed some stupid resolution. we r boycotting the french. french fries r now freedom fries, they r also asking us not to purchose french wines. and so on. just because france does not want to go to war.

Relient J
03-18-2003, 08:21 AM
What county do you live in? My profile says I'm in Mount Berry, GA because that's where I go to college, but I'm currently at my home in Tallahassee, FL on Spring Break.

JackieChanIsGOD
03-18-2003, 08:40 AM
Maybe we should change French Toast back to German Toast... who's with me!

David
03-18-2003, 08:48 AM
I'm from Canada.

JCIG, it doesn't matter what it's called, it's still one of the best foods on the face of the earth.

There was a great political cartoon in my newspaper. It was titled: France's Response to Freedom Fries

There was a picture of a large-butted French lady and she was saying: "We're now called what we sit on our George Bush" It was funny at the time, but I don't think I ahve the wording right.

cubist
03-18-2003, 11:01 AM
War is bad.
It is a revenge war.
Fuck Bush.


I've made so many long posts on this and I can't be fucked any more.

Fiend
03-18-2003, 06:47 PM
relient j, i live in palm beach county.

Bryan
03-18-2003, 07:10 PM
Eh, I don't like this war, but Saddam won't be defiant for long, so it doesn't matter much.

Relient J
03-18-2003, 08:29 PM
Today the French ambassador has said that if Iraq uses chemical weapons against coalition forces, it completely change France's stance on the war.

smellslikenintendospirit
03-18-2003, 08:50 PM
Originally posted by Relient J
Today the French ambassador has said that if Iraq uses chemical weapons against coalition forces, it completely change France's stance on the war.

That's just an excuse for France to get back in America's favor and support the war.

Relient J
03-18-2003, 09:32 PM
It is rather suspicious.

Dark_Cloud
03-18-2003, 09:43 PM
yeah man, all the other contrys try to defy us but when it comes down to it they all want to be on our side.

yamiyuuki
03-18-2003, 10:01 PM
Yeah, they need us to fight their battles for them...

advancemonkey
03-18-2003, 10:21 PM
I just saw the latest polls. Bush is kicking ass. 62 % approval rating his best poll the worst was 60% and 59% of Americans support the war on the best poll for that the worst was 55% for action.
As for France i thought they would turn around. They are trying to be like the u.s..

smellslikenintendospirit
03-18-2003, 10:25 PM
Originally posted by advancemonkey
I just saw the latest polls. Bush is kicking ass. 62 % approval rating his best poll the worst was 60% and 59% of Americans support the war on the best poll for that the worst was 55% for action.
As for France i thought they would turn around. They are trying to be like the u.s..

a) I didn't understand much beyond the second sentence

b) 62% approval is not good. That means that over 1/3 of Americans are against what their President is doing.