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link1987
04-12-2004, 02:49 AM
Well who is?

r33hash
04-12-2004, 02:51 AM
Doesnt this belong in the entertainment section...with music and stuff...whatever that board is called.

C.J.
04-12-2004, 02:53 AM
To entertainment we go.

Haris
04-12-2004, 05:27 AM
Hm. There is no "illest" in my opinion. There are quite a few that are "ill" though.
Nas
Tupac
Hova
Eminem
Crooked I
Twista

Though Vise doesn't think so, Canibus is pretty ill too.

Travis
04-12-2004, 05:50 AM
You know, you ask yourself who the best 5 rappers of all time. It's easy.

Suzuki Fanboy
Suzuki Fanboy
Suzuki Fanboy
Suzuki Fanboy
Suzuki Fanboy

Why? Because I spit hot fire.

Haris
04-12-2004, 05:52 AM
Let's see you spit, Suzuki.

Kay B
04-12-2004, 04:05 PM
there isnt an illest because the all have completly diffrent styles

but my top 5 are

eminem
canibus
nas
jay z
Kanye west

Crow
04-12-2004, 04:13 PM
canibus
talib kweli
common
pharaoh monch
kanye
nas
etc etc

[[tavis]]
04-12-2004, 05:37 PM
Fav: Nas (illmatic kills everything)

Runner Ups:
common
mos def (cannot believe he aint on here)
Aesop Rock
Kurupt
Fabolous


this list chanes daily

Crow
04-12-2004, 06:21 PM
ah, dint think anyone wud put fabolous in ther but he has skills, just chooses to use em differently

[[tavis]]
04-12-2004, 06:25 PM
Yeah I like Paul Cain almost as much as fab, just cause his multi's and some witty flows. Nuthing too special, he's like my wild card

Crow
04-12-2004, 06:39 PM
ah yeh, they brothers right???

goku2057
04-12-2004, 06:58 PM
DJ Magic Mike...Oh...MC's....My favorite three are Dr.DRE, Jay-Z, and Little Joh...EWWWHATT!? I mean Eminem.

dncardman
04-12-2004, 08:00 PM
Nas
Tupac
Eminem
Kanye West
Twista
even Ludacris, there just all sick.

Crow
04-12-2004, 08:30 PM
Ludacris roflmfao

r33hash
04-12-2004, 08:53 PM
Yeah....I wouldnt call Luda one of the illest MCs.....he sounds good, but he's not in my top five by any means. Not close, actually.

Orgasm Simulator Robot
04-12-2004, 09:11 PM
illes mc ? damn that is one hard question... here are a few that I like...

MF Doom
Kool Keith
Aceyalone
Mykah Nyne
Lateef

I still enjoy some old del the funky homosapien works. I dunno, I like more but I feel lazy.

Glenn2K4
04-12-2004, 09:26 PM
WTF?!?

all these MC lists but nobody thought to include:
Notorious B.I.G --OR-- Dr. Dre

and im sorry tavis.....Kurupt?.....i think not
Dncardman has the best list thus far + B.I.G = the best MCs of all time

r33hash
04-12-2004, 09:40 PM
I wouldnt include Kanye West in my list either. His rhymes arent witty enough for me. Some are, but then again, some are just lame.

[[tavis]]
04-12-2004, 10:07 PM
Glenn don't be dissing kurupt, go listen to Streetz iz a mutha

Mathdumb
04-12-2004, 10:38 PM
whoever that guy is on Linkin park
and eminiem
and teck 9

dncardman
04-12-2004, 11:01 PM
I don't know but I just like Luda, I mean he might not be the greatest but I just love his style and how he sounds. Oh yeah I forgot Dr. Dre, he's great too.

Kay B
04-12-2004, 11:23 PM
how any one can say ludacris hs skillz is beyond me but hey everyone for there own

Sendok
04-12-2004, 11:23 PM
Jimmy Web...and um...K-Os maybe?

Kay B
04-12-2004, 11:25 PM
I wouldnt include Kanye West in my list either. His rhymes arent witty enough for me. Some are, but then again, some are just lame.

hey watch kanye west is about to blow up and be alot bigger than he already is he's got it all in my view he's a good rapper and a good producer



KANYE WEST = the next dre maybe ok maybe thats going to far lol :laugh:

Crow
04-13-2004, 12:43 AM
dre has fuck all in lyrics, y do ya think jigga wrote his verse in watcher 2 and em wrote loadsa his verses, he aint a good mc, BIG was ok but nofin special

nolifeking
04-13-2004, 12:50 AM
Uncle Kracker

Orgasm Simulator Robot
04-13-2004, 12:58 AM
some of you guys are pathetic... I mean Kanye ? Canibus ? Ludacris ? Kurupt ? Dr. Dre ?

all those rappers suck a whole lot.

Zelda Prime
04-13-2004, 12:59 AM
I don't listen to much rap, but I heard Mos Def and some other guy on The Chappelle Show. Can't remember his name, but they formed a group called Blackstar (I think) and they were good.

[[tavis]]
04-13-2004, 01:15 AM
talib kweli and mos def










some of you guys are pathetic... I mean Kanye ? Canibus ? Ludacris ? Kurupt ? Dr. Dre ?

all those rappers suck a whole lot.


Kool keith should never have picked up a mic

r33hash
04-13-2004, 04:31 AM
Kanye is alright, but he needs to gain experience as a rapper. Sure, he has it as a producer, but he is just starting as a rapper. I can think of many lines in his stuff that has a witty verse, followed by an extremely dumb one.

Good part: "Looked like Tom Cruise from Vanilla Sky"
Bad followup: "It was televised"

Just doesnt go well at all. He has potential, but definitely not one of the illest....yet.

Orgasm Simulator Robot
04-13-2004, 05:27 AM
]']talib kweli and mos def













Kool keith should never have picked up a mic


haha, hells nah, his shit is the funniest. he's just cool. octagon was awesome, dr dooom was dope, sex style was funky... anyways, it's up to you, but that's some good music. peace.

Kay B
04-13-2004, 03:31 PM
some of you guys are pathetic... I mean Kanye ? Canibus ? Ludacris ? Kurupt ? Dr. Dre ?

all those rappers suck a whole lot.

huh? You dont listen to rap much do you?

canibus kanye karupt don't suck if you knew anything youd know that


*tut tut sum people these days*

Orgasm Simulator Robot
04-13-2004, 04:17 PM
Canibus sounds like a barking dog and he has no lyrical skill.

he should stop rapping about his dogs and open his eyes to what's happening outside of his wack-ass person. I can't believe you're actually protecting canibus, this dood is the gayest mother fucker mentionned in this thread.

yeah kanye ain't that bad, I guess. his production skills are aiight but I don't know about the mic... he's kinda average in my opinion. but canibus sure sure sucks. dre too, he has tons of ghostwritters and they can't even do a good job, ha !

but whatever, you are right, I don't listen to that much rap music anymore, it's just getting boring. recently, I've been only listening to MF Doom (Madvillain), Madlib, Dizzee Rascal and El-P (when it comes to rap music, cause I'm listening to milions of other things).

Kay B
04-13-2004, 07:58 PM
Canibus sounds like a barking dog and he has no lyrical skill.

he should stop rapping about his dogs and open his eyes to what's happening outside of his wack-ass person. I can't believe you're actually protecting canibus, this dood is the gayest mother fucker mentionned in this thread.

yeah kanye ain't that bad, I guess. his production skills are aiight but I don't know about the mic... he's kinda average in my opinion. but canibus sure sure sucks. dre too, he has tons of ghostwritters and they can't even do a good job, ha !

but whatever, you are right, I don't listen to that much rap music anymore, it's just getting boring. recently, I've been only listening to MF Doom (Madvillain), Madlib, Dizzee Rascal and El-P (when it comes to rap music, cause I'm listening to milions of other things).


First of all i may be wrong but it seems like your gettin canibus confused with DMX as it is dmx that barks all the time and speaks about dogs but hey my bad if im wrong

Secoundly yes dre has ghost writers BUT dre isnt a writter he's a producer and the best one at that which is why he doesnt write his own songs

Thirdly how can u say canibus has a shit voice when u listen to dizee rascal?

Peter
04-13-2004, 09:05 PM
Well, I know nothing about MC's really. But I hated that Hammer Time song by MC Hammer. Thats all.

[[tavis]]
04-13-2004, 09:23 PM
Thirdly how can u say canibus has a shit voice when u listen to dizee rascal?


They both Suck

Orgasm Simulator Robot
04-14-2004, 12:28 AM
First of all i may be wrong but it seems like your gettin canibus confused with DMX as it is dmx that barks all the time and speaks about dogs but hey my bad if im wrong

Secoundly yes dre has ghost writers BUT dre isnt a writter he's a producer and the best one at that which is why he doesnt write his own songs

Thirdly how can u say canibus has a shit voice when u listen to dizee rascal?

oh yeah, sorry you are right. I was confused when I wrote this and I was speaking about DMX. of course DMX sucks more than Canibus but still, Canibus sucks, period.

that shit you said about dre is just wrong. yeah he is a producer first but he's far from being the best. He's using the same drumkit over and over. never original. same fucking simple piano loop, nothing really exciting. he's just making club hits with no particular interest or originality. and then, even if you're a "good" producer (we will say dre is a good producer which is not true) you shouldn't use writters cause it's so gay, you should just produce and never touch the mic. I mean, a producer can live really well in a game without touching the mic... so there is no point or reason to use a ghostwritter.

and dizzee rascal has a dope voice. and he's better than most of the emcees mentionned in this thread

Colin™
04-14-2004, 12:37 AM
I'm not sure who the "most ill" mc is, but I like

-Mos Def
-Talib Kweli
-Aceyalone
-Nas
-French-canadian Matt


And Kanye really does bore the hell out of me.

Orgasm Simulator Robot
04-14-2004, 12:43 AM
I
-French-canadian Matt


oh really ? :)

I thought I sucked.

Hisham
04-14-2004, 12:45 AM
My list would have to go like this.
Tupac
Eminem
Twista
Nas
Outkast(both Big Boi and Andre 3000 are good)
Lloyd Banks.

And I'd like to say I like the way luda sounds but his lyrics are crap. Chicken and Beer sucks.

dachozen1
04-14-2004, 01:34 AM
Eminem
Nas
2pac
Chris Wallace
Bone thugs
Eric B & Rakim
Run DMC
Beasty Boys

The illest in my eyes is no other than EMINEM
Because no one alive has shocked the world like EM
and he is the best when it comes to being a lyrist.

goku2057
04-14-2004, 02:33 AM
WTF?!?

all these MC lists but nobody thought to include:
Notorious B.I.G --OR-- Dr. Dre

and im sorry tavis.....Kurupt?.....i think not
Dncardman has the best list thus far + B.I.G = the best MCs of all time

I did...Bitch.

Haris
04-14-2004, 02:57 AM
Eminem
Nas
2pac
Chris Wallace
Bone thugs
Eric B & Rakim
Run DMC
Beasty Boys

The illest in my eyes is no other than EMINEM
Because no one alive has shocked the world like EM
and he is the best when it comes to being a lyrist.

Yeahhh I forgot Bone Thugz. They have weird voices but they rhyme well...

For anyone that doesn't know much about them, go download Notorious Thugs by Bone Thugz featuring Biggie.

goku2057
04-14-2004, 03:46 AM
Snoop DO Doublie Gizzle.

Travis
04-14-2004, 04:10 AM
Beastie Boys pwn j00

Glenn2K4
04-14-2004, 05:23 AM
I did...Bitch.
hey, man...dont get new with me .

i just saying, many people mentioned lyricist like
cannibus
kurupt
etc..
....without mentioning the greatest MCs of all time...easy

any person who has followed rap, and knows who's who in the game, knows that B.I.G. is one of the greatest lyricists of all time. Period. End statement.

and any person who knows their rap roots know that Dr Dre changed the game when he released both his albums...he birthed Eminem, which paved the way for 50cent.

All im saying, mention the real lyricists and leave the Nellys and the other garbage rappers where they belong



...bitch!

[[tavis]]
04-14-2004, 05:28 AM
and any person who knows their rap roots know that Dr Dre changed the game when he released both his albums...he birthed Eminem, which paved the way for 50cent.


...bitch!


WHICH IS WHY HE NEEDS TO BE TAKEN OUT OF THE RUNNINGS AS AN ICON FOR RAP. 50 CENT IS WHATS WRONG WITH RAP

Glenn2K4
04-14-2004, 05:47 AM
Dre shouldn't be considered an icon of rap?

Without Dre, there could possibly be no Eminem or 50cent (ok, 50 we can do without)....but Em is awesome.

and really, there is no "runnings" for rap icon...Dre already is a gangsta rap icon. Granted he is not the best, but he definately is in the top10.

r33hash
04-14-2004, 06:53 AM
Old school Bone can be put on the pedistall(sp?) with the illest, but none of their newer stuff. Another reason why Em is so damn good is the meer fact that he has dissed so many people, and is still alive.

Crow
04-14-2004, 12:04 PM
and dizzee rascal has a dope voice. and he's better than most of the emcees mentionned in this thread

u have just declared urself insane...... how can lines like

when you said that she forgot other boys
its over you better start buying the toys

compare to ones like

When he can't spell, you chase crumbs and get ate like Han-sel
Can't hold your mic, like your liquor, your style like an Amstel

just how
:question: :question: :question:

Anti-Colin
04-14-2004, 05:11 PM
Anyone from Anti Pop Consortium beats the hell out of anyone you all just mentioned, excluding arbee.

[[tavis]]
04-14-2004, 05:56 PM
Nas

heres just another reason why

http://fileserv1.soundclick.com/fastg9/HiD/twistedbeats+nasandpitbull.mp3

Viper
04-14-2004, 09:48 PM
This is a seriously debatable topic and many of you may not like my selections, or even know them.

popular:

Eminem - complexity and delivery is insane.
Nas - thought provoking.
Outkast - Great delivery and complexity.
Twista - Great delivery.
Bone Thugs N harmony - Best delivery in the business.

mostly unknown:

Daddy Rae -
Epod Swen -
Smooth J Smooth - The first 3 here are part of DJ Magic Mikes crew and the had delivery and complexity that were well ahead of their time.

and of course.....Me, haha.



Those that should not be on the list.

Tupac - He was just a thug and I've heard almost everything he said before he ever picked up a mic. Delivery was decent.
Biggie - He sounded like he had a piece of chicken still in his mouth when he rapped. Same a Tupac as for lyrics.
Canibus - Swallowed a bullfrog before he rapped. Has the complexity but bad delivery.
Dre - Best stuff is ghost written.

Crow
04-14-2004, 10:02 PM
Canibus - Swallowed a bullfrog before he rapped. Has the complexity but bad delivery.
but if u tuk his lyrics are give them to anyone else they'd be fuked in the deliverance of em