Super Smash Bros. Brawl - Updates & Hype Thread

[Zeep]

I saw that image in good detail, and there's no new characters on it.

link?

[Shadow Voa]

http://i177.photobucket.com/albums/w224/TyrantRaveOmega/SakuraiChickencopy.jpg

[Phoenix]

There's 22 characters on that list, for starters. I can't even see what most of those are, but I'm fairly certain there won't be any new ones on there.

[Too Slow]

I can't wait to use the new chicken character!

[Phoenix]

Billy Hatcher!

[Too Slow]

How would Billy Hatcher be played in smash bros?

[Phoenix]

No idea, but if they could work out Olimar, they could work out Billy Hatcher. Though I mostly just said it because you mentioned "chicken character."

[Zeep]

http://www.vgcats.com/comics/images/080122.jpg

[IEatFriedPikmin]

wait... omg, they need captain falcon!!!! At least a replacement :(

[Phoenix]

Jigglypuff and Ness are in there. Shame on you for not keeping up with immediate news with your comic that takes a week month!

That said, that was easily the most incoherent VGCats comic I've ever read. Still funny at points, though.

[Hylian-Advocate]

woah....the new stages is freaking awesome....

it's such a creative idea.... and yet.....so obvious of an idea....considering they are creating a side scrolling mario-esque platformer for the single player already...

why not recreate the original as a fighting arena!

hmm..... you know.. I never really thought of it this way...but they basically created, with subspace emissary, a 2d mario platformer.....just with tons of characters from other games...

and the music is pretty good.....although I could barely hear it on my old headphones at this late hour.....

[SuperLuigiBros]

Woah! What a sweet level! Im listening to the music now.. Its pretty god damn awesome. They better release a massive soundtrack. Its cool how it sometimes loads the second level. Although it would be cool if it scrolled to the right, then all the characters go underground and continue down the second level, then went up again and it starts back at 1-1. I guess it will just loop around, right?

Edit: Wow the underground looks awesome! I do wish the actual level had the green grass and everything, but I guess its kinda cool that its all old. It would be sweet to race to the finish on this level.

[Zeep]

awesome level, awesome music. nuff said.

[koten]

Wait. The level can randomly load two different versions. That's another layer added to the insanity. They really are going all out with this.

[Cofey]

So, this game launches one week from tomorrow in Japan. Then we can finally stop arguing over the roster. I can't tell you how happy I'll be once all that BS has ended.

[Hylian-Advocate]

^yeah...... except they probably wont have unlocked all the secret ones yet....but the strategy guides over there will still probably list them all.....meh....

maybe I should stay away from this thread for a month..... meh....who am I kidding... I wouldn't be able to do that.... I like discussing the dojo updates too much.... I still personally think most uber spoilers should be kept spoiler tagged..... but whatever.



by the way.... I so want to get the sheet music for that piano Mario theme..... I played the piano for 5 and a half years.....getting up to level 8 (anyone who played piano knows what I am talking about)..... that would be so much fun to play.

[Zeep]

level 8? I played piano for about five years and have no idea what you mean.

you can get sheet music for the mario theme pretty much anywhere, though.

for example,

www.ninsheetmusic.net

also, here's a fun song you could try playing on piano: http://www.ninsheetmusic.net/sheets/SuperSmashBros/SuperSmashBrosMelee/BreaktheTargets.mid

[Phoenix]

I've been playing the piano for 9 years and I also don't know what you mean.

Also - OMG BREAK THE TARGETS! I so wanted sheet music to that! ^.^

...Ouch, that's going to be a tough one. The MIDI formatting also will make it hard to read, but it's not like I haven't memorized what the song sounds like.

[Zeep]

I've been playing the piano for 9 years and I also don't know what you mean.

Also - OMG BREAK THE TARGETS! I so wanted sheet music to that! ^.^

...Ouch, that's going to be a tough one. The MIDI formatting also will make it hard to read, but it's not like I haven't memorized what the song sounds like.

If you go find it on the site you can download it as normal sheet music.

[Phoenix]

Damnit, it's incompatible with my version of Finale. Grr...

[Zeep]

Speaking of smash bros music, i went and ripped all the songs from the site and exported them into 4 mp3 files with 5 songs each. download the zip file here (http://post84.org/brawl-prerelease.zip). in itunes (or probably most other players) you can find the names of the individual songs in the "comments" tag.

[Phoenix]

Actually, I'm just now listening to it, and that's a pretty bad transcription of the Break the Targets song. Meh. It needs to be a duet.

[Hylian-Advocate]

you pianists didn't use the level system???.....

I can't remember the formal name for the organization....... but its a standard amongst all piano teachers.... songs are rated from one to ten based on their difficulty...and so are theory and scales and all that stuff.....

'Federated something or other' I believe it is called..... anyway....


You're right.... one reason I don't like midi songs as much as live orchestrated songs is that many times you have arrangements that are impossible on real instruments..... THIS piano version of the mario theme sounds pretty realistic though.

[Phoenix]

Nope. That's kind of hard to do, since there really is no upward limit on difficulty.

[Hylian-Advocate]

^hmm..... Me and my cousins all had teachers that used this and told us it was standard.....meh....

maybe it's statewide....

by the way...the second part of the Iwata asks was posted on wii.com

http://us.wii.com/iwata_asks/ssbb/vol2_page1.jsp

It wasn't all that interesting....but it was kinda neat that Sakurai mentioned how he though it should be more traditional..... and that it didn't need to have something like Miis being playable characters....

Personally I think that would be awesome if they were though.....

I assume the third will be posted tonight.

[Zeep]

So today thay posted a video of an online match between nintendo's headquarters in Tokyo and Kyoto (roughly the same distance as LA to Las Vegas). i did notice a tiny bit of lag, but only in one or two spots. then again, that was not a very big distance match. if the lag is proportional, then international matches could see some problems. but overall it looked good in the video.

[Ch1cago88]

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[Hylian-Advocate]

Also.... check this video out......5 minutes of gameplay....even has a bunch of Snake and also kirby's final smash in action.

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/29932.html

The very end has a good long bout between snake and link in snakes stage....... that stage looks awesome.....the two side walls are destructible....and when they are there.....its harder to knock people out of the arena because the walls are so high.

and here is a homerun contest video:

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/29933.html


About the online match.

I didn't notice really any lag at all...... except for when the match ends....and I believe it's supposed to do a slow motion finish when the match ends....

The only thing is that you would think that they would want to show a match farther away without lag if it were actaully possible.....so unfortunately....maybe this is the farthest they tested that wouldn't result in lag...... who knows....

from the looks of it though..... even twice that far wouldn't lag that much..... it will be interesting to see how much it will lag across the US fropm coast to coast.

Although... I bet that the online engine searches for the closest match every time..... so I am not really worried about that....

the only thing I hope it won't lag a bunch for is all you people here on the forums..... alot of you are from the east coast/south.....and playing friends matches should be fun......

[Spatula]

Enjoy the new subforum!

[Zeep]

Since we have a full sub-forum now, I'm going to un-sticky this. If there's a minor update, and you want to discuss it, you can use this thread. But if it's something major, feel free to create a separate thread for it. You can define 'minor' and 'major'.

[Hylian-Advocate]

ahhh...how sad.....this thread will no longer grow to the behemoth that it would have become.....

This is still the thread to discuss the daily updates though peoples..... don't really need new ones for everyone of those...

agreed?

[Phoenix]

There are only four more updates until the Japanese release. The time where the updates matter is limited.

[SuperLuigiBros]

Have you guys continued reading the Iwata Asks? Its really interesting. Today's one (Vol. 4) makes it sound as though Brawl will be the last Smash Bros. game. For a while anyway.
Edit: Wow, I just finished Vol. 4. It seems like the Subspace Emissary could be a full game by itself. Some dude who did the music and sucks at games apparently took a few days to beat it on easy. Although its not perfectly clear. Make you sure read it, though.

[Hylian-Advocate]

There are only four more updates until the Japanese release. The time where the updates matter is limited.
oh yeah.....lol.... you're right....

I kinda forgot that once its released in Japan... the updates wont really make a difference because the press and Japanese gamers will be able to post anything they want....

meh....oh well....

I wonder if they will even continue the updates at all.

Have you guys continued reading the Iwata Asks?
Yes.... its quite interesting indeed....

I particularity like how Sakurai describes how certain things are actually modified specifically for the single player mode.... and how the single player is so fleshed out that from a developing standpoint they basically made two games at once......and the struggles they had in coming up with a story...

It's was also great to hear that the man responsible for Final Fantasy VII's story collaborated with Sakurai in creating The Subspace Emissary storyline.... and that a serious plot was important to him...

overall it sounds like the single player mode will be quite epic for Nintendo Fans..... not just icing on the cake..... but an additional cake, in a sense.

I think it has so much potential too.... considering how much I loved the 2d platformers like Donkey Kong Country back in the day.... so much nostalgia..... The Subspace Emissary seems like it could come close to a similar status for today's generation of gamers.

[Zeep]

Why did you quote thecube as me?

[nayrk]

Well I suppose this means after Brawl... there might not be another?

[Zeep]

It was developed with that possibility in mind, but remember this is Nintendo, the king of sequels and spinoffs.

[nayrk]

It was developed with that possibility in mind, but remember this is Nintendo, the king of sequels and spinoffs.

Yea no doubt... who doesn't love Mario Party 12?

I do wonder what this "assembled team" will do next? totally split? or what

[koten]

It was developed with that possibility in mind, but remember this is Nintendo, the king of sequels and spinoffs.I believe those titles belong to Capcom and Square Enix respectively.

[Hylian-Advocate]

lol...sory zeep..... I just typed the name I thought of most recently seeing..... it was late when I posted that...

what do you al think of the latest Dojo update?...

I guess it's kinda interestng to have demos of all these games... but honestly... I felt that this should have been a part of the actual virtual console from the start.... Well..... at the very least..... the Virtual console should have streaming video on the games download/description page.

but perhaps there will be more to this mode than what we see as of now.

all in all.... it's definitely an awesome addition for newer gamers to see where their favorite characters originated.... plus...its one more set of unlockables that adds replay for the completionist.

[nayrk]

I believe those titles belong to Capcom and Square Enix respectively.

i think everyone r33hashes (how many dynasty warriors games are there?)

I think the main question here is since Ninty brought a ton of (awesome) random folk together do you think they'd do so anytime again for a title such as this?

[ScratchedAt]

Super Smash Bros. RPG???


Haha. Riiight.

[Hylian-Advocate]

check these out.....from the demo units in Japan.....

http://www.youtube.com/profile_videos?user=queensaki&p=r

I don't know why they played the same characters and nearly all the same level each time...but meh....

it kinda looks like dedede is a bit overpowered..... but its probably becuase whoever is playing Ike....really sucks.

[Blaksmoke]

The Animal Crossing stage's music is nice.

[bobo_ess]

I couldget used to ike, kinda like marth. I wonder how much marth will change

[Phoenix]

A lot - he won't be in the game.

As for Ike, I think he's quite a bit slower than Marth will be.

[SuperLuigiBros]

I dont think this is a spoiler:
http://www.brawlcentral.com/images/news/2008_01_26(2).jpg

Also:
http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q239/Ezduo/1200981036889.jpg

[Shadow Voa]

Dunno but he'll be in the final game.

As for Ike, I think he's quite a bit slower than Marth will be, kinda like Roy but unfortunately he was cut.

[Phoenix]

I don't know if you're in denial or just very optimistic, Voa.

[Shadow Voa]

Little bit of column A and a lot of column B.

[Phoenix]

Awesome.

Never hurts to be hopeful, I just don't want you to be disappointed. :)

[Shadow Voa]

Its SSBB, no one can be disappointed because one thing missing doesnt take away from the multitude of other great things available.

[Phoenix]

This is true.

[Hylian-Advocate]

meh.... I was a Roy fan.....

but Ike will fill his place sufficiently from the looks of it....


plus there are so many other characters that have the potential to be my new favorite.

[Hylian-Advocate]

Ok..... so I am not looking at all the multitud of spoilers that are out there tight now....so don't ruin anything.....

but todays update was kinda cool..... and I guess it did spoil who was goin to be playable from the start..... but one thing bothers me....

it doesn't look right now that there is room on the stage selection screen for more stages to be unlocked???.... do you guys think that the icons just get smaller or somthing???

I kinda doubt that there isn't any unlockable stages..... that just wouldn't be Sakurai style.


your thoughts?

[SuperLuigiBros]

Thats what i was thinking... I think maybe they'll squeeze a few more in there, or we just saw how you can go to the other pages of levels, maybe theyll just fill up another page with unlockable levels. that wouldnt be too unrealistic.

[Delirious]

I agree, probably going to be a multiple page thing going on. I hope they also throw in some classic SSB stages. Why would they not?

[nayrk]

I still want to play on the original SSB Temple stage...

[bobo_ess]

the smash ball should have yoshi the power of the yellow shell too, making people fly when he lands near them

[Zeep]

There will be more. we've seen screenshots of levels that aren't in that list, don't worry.

[Hylian-Advocate]

Thanks..... that makes me happy.......

only now I know what some of the spoilers are and it makes me want to see them even more!!!!...

I don't know if I will be able to last through an entire month of this.... but the thing is.....a whole moth will go by and basically every single unlockable will have been revealed by then........and that would just completely ruin the fun for me.... so I have to refrain.

[Bsack]

I'm glad I've avoided everything pertaining to SSB

[Delirious]

Im very tempted to +rep Bsack with a screen of the complete roster, but Ill be nice.

[Zeep]

Anyone else notice that in the video posted today, Dedede's name was pronounced "Dee-Dee-Dee" rather than "Day-Day-Day" like it was in the Japanese version?

[Cofey]

^That's how I've always pronounced it.....so which is it then?

[Zeep]

Apparently for us it's DeeDeeDee.

[Phoenix]

Day-Day-Day sounds lame. I'm glad it's Dee3.

[Cofey]

^Yeah, I'm happy I don't have to switch pronunciations after like 18 years :)

[Hylian-Advocate]

so this sucks, by the way...

Now even the dojo is going to be posting character and level spoilers..... according to Sakurai.... so that the dojo can be like an online game guide so to speak....

How the heck am I going to avoid the dojo for freaking 38 days!

I have been looking every night for the past eight and a half months!.... wow... that's a long time!

[Hylian-Advocate]

one thing I noticed...

The new Dojo update brought forth a total site update...

The funny thing is that the US one is different.... graphically speaking I don't like it as much as the others.



Also.... I was thinking about the level editor.....tell me if I am wrong....but what I hear is that there is prety puch only 18 parts to play around with..... is that true....

It seems like they could have made more than that.... meh....maybe unlockable ones or something..... won't be too bad if there isn't but I just thought there would be more than that.

what I do think is awesome is how fast you can create something and then instantly test it out...... that is totally slick. (I checked out a vid of the stage builder)

[SuperLuigiBros]

You can unlock things for the stage builder.

Its good because now we can go there and it will tell us if something is a spoiler and then again how to unlock certain things is in another link.

[Hylian-Advocate]

wait......did you mean that as a question or a statement.....technically the period indicates that you meant it as a statement.....in which case I am happy... but...but....you spoiled it for me!!!....jk

[Viper]

First day sales in Japan.

Super Smash Bros. Brawl (Wii) : about 500k (At last, First Shipments was about 600k and already started second shipment)

Second shipment is expected to be 300k and it's already hitting stores. First week should hit 800k - 1 million.

[Phoenix]

[spoiler]HEY HYLIAN ADVOCATE, BIRDO IS PLAYABLE.[/spoiler[





OK, that's a lie. Anyway, I myself am not going to keep myself from seeing information, because that'll be too hard, but I am going to keep the unlocking methods a secret. I'd like to discover those myself.

[Hylian-Advocate]

Hey Phoenix....

YOUR MOM IS PLAYABLE!


....tehehe

and maybe you're right about just keeping the unlock method a secret.... could be a good balance.

and awesome sales btw..... I am anxious to see the weekly numbers when they arrive.

[nayrk]

Sakuri has announced the reason for the delay of Brawl in the United States and Europe!

It all has to do with this little device! Yea Japan won't see it because they have small houses.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=wWyudlhwOxs

You will be able to pick up usb adapters at all major retailers when Brawl releases in the US and Europe

-.-.-.-.-


Ok in all seriousness...

I do like the new layout of the Brawl website.

...although after reading about ness I really don't see much reason to play as him... as lucas seems a a bit better

[koten]

You guys thought that the Smash Bros website was all done with and that all the important news had already been spoiled.

Samus comes in to prove you wrong by allowing you to choose the Zero Suit at the start by holding sheild or changing between the two by hammering really fast on the up down taunts. Little things like this make the game so much better.

[Delirious]

I wonder how they ever lost the console wars with peripherals like that.

[NeoDeity]

Sonic’s stage is a hidden stage. It’s like the Sega Genesis makes a comeback as Nintendo hardware!

I laughed more than I should have.

Edit: Also Luigi is on the dojo:

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y179/neophantom3001/Weegeebrawl.jpg

[nayrk]

^I found that funny

[NESv1]

So, today in the Dojo we got to look at...

A little bit more information on the Subspace Emissary story mode. Just mentioning secret doors, secret areas, and items you have to collect to possibly unlock stuff makes me drool even more for this deliciously AWESOME mode!

What do you guys think?

[Delirious]

Ive already gotten spoiled so this is old news to me. I wish I would have waited now though.

[SuperLuigiBros]

I spoiled all the characters and a few levels, but I want to experience all of the Subspace Emissary for myself. It does have a storyline after all. I dont mind reading all the things on the dojo though. Its not like there will be an update with the ending of the SSE.

[SuperLuigiBros]

Yay I just unlocked Toon Link and hes totally awesome. The level is so cool and is easily my favorite. Best inclusion so far.

[Too Slow]

you used to be alot of things didnt you nesv1?

[Zeep]

http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/gamemode/etc/images/etc01/etc01_080307_088-l.jpg

Awwwwwww.

Check out the new update: lots of snapshots that people have been taking. Many of them are pretty funny.

[koten]

I really like how they included the Dark Suit as one of Samus' alternate costumes (you can see it in the screenshot of robowario).

This, however, pisses me off too because they didn't use her Metroid Prime model.

[Zeep]

This, however, pisses me off too because they didn't use her Metroid Prime model.

Fact.

[Hylian-Advocate]

these screens are great....although I kinda thought he'd do something more interesting for the US launch....although....what else is there to do.

[SuperLuigiBros]

When I first saw what the update was i was like 'eh...' but then after looking at them all they were really awesome. Ive taken some pretty sweet photos myself. I wonder if I can send them to people with the japanese version. Do they get sent to peoples Wii's? (Does the other person need the game to recieve them?)

I like the picture with Pikachu with a flower on his head disguised as a yellow Pikmin.