Super Smash Bros. Brawl - Updates & Hype Thread

[SuperLuigiBros]

http://www.smashbros.com/

One week!

You cant click on anything anymore. My guess is when it launches again there'll be a new trailer(s) and lots of cool pics, plus more characters and levels revealed.

http://www.smashbros.com/img/logo_e.jpg

Rejoice!

[Generosity of God]

yay

[Khaos]

Yeah, hopefully we wil be getting much more information on the game, including what people want to see: character selection, stages, and game modes.

[SuperLuigiBros]

Well they are relaunching the site - its not just a simple update. Its gotta be a huge blow-out.

*is getting my hopes up, most likely just to be supremely disappointed*

[Shadow Voa]

6 Days...

[Shadow19]

Awesome! thanks for posting. hopefully it's a Big update (new characters, trailers, game modes, etc.)

[koten]

Doubt much info will come out of this.

E3... where are you?

[Phoenix]

It's the final countdown! (Dododoooo doo... dododo do do!)

Wow, awesome. Let's hope they actually reveal stuff with it rather than just represent what we already know.

[OnBake Platinum]

I look foward to this.

[Generosity of God]

It's the final countdown! (Dododoooo doo... dododo do do!)


http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a95/gog1985/109-gob-magic.jpg

i'm guessing Sakurai had planned to have info ready by this time for E3. and even though E3 was changed he decided to stick to the schedule. i'm guessing if E3 stayed the same we would have gotten the same info we will be getting next week.

Matt Casamassina was hinting at a Nintendo event next week so i'm guessing there will be info from that.

not only one week until SSBB info but probably Metroid Prime 3 and Super Mario Galaxy aswell.

exciting

[SuperLuigiBros]

[q uote=Phoenix;1528233]It's the final countdown! (Dododoooo doo... dododo do do!)
QUOTE]
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a95/gog1985/109-gob-magic.jpg

phail

[Teh Roxor!]

Hopefully it's a countdown to the start of the release date countdown.

[KamiKaZe]

The creator of this thread shoot be shot in both legs. I mean you should really try reiterating the title because I read it and thought you were talking about the game's release not some dumb website.

[Delirious]

*splooges* I cannot wait.

[TheGreenElf]

A countdown, not for the game...but for some possible information about the game...

[Teh Roxor!]

The creator of this thread shoot be shot in both legs. I mean you should really try reiterating the title because I read it and thought you were talking about the game's release not some dumb website.
It is significant because this is the official site, so something good must be on the way.

[Ch1cago88]

I can't wait till the site goes live so then we can all see the "coming soon" text on all the links. WOOT!

[ScratchedAt]

Yep. Ass. I thought it was game release.. dammit dammit dammit.

[KamiKaZe]

^Glad I wasn't the only one. I thought it was a bit soon but still. Anyway it better be a damn good update to dash my hopes like that.

[DankHero]

^Glad I wasn't the only one. I thought it was a bit soon but still. Anyway it better be a damn good update to dash my hopes like that.

You definatly weren't the only one. There update is going to be, "You can play as Mario, Metroid, Link, and Pikachu!!!!"

But heres for hoping something good is let out.

[SuperLuigiBros]

^We already know we'll be playing as them. And Samus is the character... from the game Metroid.

Of course something good will come of it. Im willing to bet my reputation on it!

I dont know how I would do that exactly, and even if I did I dont think its worth all too much anyway.

[F089/H]

*gets ready for Epic Disappointment!*

Hey morale is low,But heres to hoping....

[KeyBlade]

I can't wait for some confirmed info on ssbb, hopefully they don't screw this game up.

[Phoenix]

If they said you could play as Metroid, that would be news.

[Unspoken]

If you think about it, playing as Metroid would be kinda cool.*

I mean, your grapple would be attaching yourself to them. Your melee would be attaching yourself to them. Your super attack would be REALLY attaching yourself to them. Fun, no?

But in all seriousness, I don't think that they can screw up SSB, because it's practically the same formula as it always is; just new moves, characters and levels is all (unless we get some new kickass modes)


* By "cool," I really mean "piss."

[DankHero]

^We already know we'll be playing as them. And Samus is the character... from the game Metroid.

Of course something good will come of it. Im willing to bet my reputation on it!

I dont know how I would do that exactly, and even if I did I dont think its worth all too much anyway.

I know that was why it was a joke, and the metroid thing well, oops. Apparently i'm just retarded.

[BananaBabeQT]

I too was let down by the title of this thread. I haven't been closely monitoring the news and info on this game but obviously I can't wait. If I just sit and countdown the MONTHS (or maybe even years considering Twighlight Princess) until it comes out I will just get anxious.. but I should catch up on the game so I can be informed when it finally does come out :)

[SuperLuigiBros]

Just as a heads up, when we get the release date or something, ill make a thread called "Smash Bros. Brawl release date".

[KamiKaZe]

^Appreciated ;)

[BananaBabeQT]

Ok, I'll be lazy and just rely on you to keep me updated haha

[Bsack]

I can't wait for some confirmed info on ssbb, hopefully they don't screw this game up.

wtf are you talking about screw this game up? Go away.

[dork]

i just want to know more about the controls...

[Bsack]

I'm with you on this one dork. I wonder if we will actually be using the wii-mote or the classic controller or the option to use either.

[Teh Roxor!]

I think and almost hope it uses the classic controller. I'm all for innovation and crazy newness, but I cannot imagine playing Super Smash Bros. in any sort of way that wouldn't require the lightning fast response that you can only get from hitting buttons.

[BananaBabeQT]

Why would Gamestop.com even bother to put this (http://www.gamestop.com/product.asp?product%5Fid=T000233) and then just put a disclaimer belowing being like "By the way, its fake" haha so pointless and got my hopes up! :(

[KeyBlade]

I think, Cloud would have been a perfect sercet character, theres going to be some suprising new info, you will never know.

[Phoenix]

Cloud would be very popular and a good choice indeed, but he's never seen a Nintendo console. Sabin, maybe?

[Unspoken]

I'm with you on this one dork. I wonder if we will actually be using the wii-mote or the classic controller or the option to use either.

It was mentioned in a magazine (maybe Nintendo Power?) that SSBB will not use standard Wii Remote controls. Instead, you use either the Classic Controller or the Gamecube Controller.

My guess is that, if anything, they will bundle the Classic Controller with the game in a different set so people won't be angry, and it also may give the customer incentive to purchase VC games.

[Teh Roxor!]

Cloud would be very popular and a good choice indeed, but he's never seen a Nintendo console. Sabin, maybe?

http://johnblargh.chickenpatrol.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/05/sabin-angry.gif

That would be awesome. Especially unlikely though.

[BananaBabeQT]

I think and almost hope it uses the classic controller. I'm all for innovation and crazy newness, but I cannot imagine playing Super Smash Bros. in any sort of way that wouldn't require the lightning fast response that you can only get from hitting buttons.

Button mashing all the way... with a little bit of skill... (atleast for me :shrug: )

[Mirai]

It has been confirmed that the main game will use the classic controller. However, the motion sensor may be used for easter eggs and such.

[Shadow19]

It has been confirmed that the main game will use the classic controller. However, the motion sensor may be used for easter eggs and such.

Link? I hope it uses the Gamecube controller & the Wii Remote & Nunchuk.

[Shoelace]

The director said that in an interview a while back, a couple of months after they showed the game, that it would use the classic controller. He didn't write off the Wiimote though. However, that was months ago, and that could have changed from then to now. Either way, Nintendo usually always puts care into their controls so it will be good. :P

And that is an awesome idea of packing it in with a classic controller. That would be really smart, if indeed it does use the classic controller.

[Cofey]

Cloud would be very popular and a good choice indeed, but he's never seen a Nintendo console. Sabin, maybe?
He was in Kingdom Hearts: Chain of Memories for GBA, so he's fair game. I still doubt it though.

[dead718]

2 days!!:djparty:

the site says japan time, and Korea has the same timezone as them :)

I hope the adventure mode is good for brawl...

[Mirai]

http://au.wii.ign.com/articles/709/709205p1.html

http://au.wii.ign.com/articles/737/737632p1.html

Confirmed a long time ago.

[koten]

Button mashing all the way... with a little bit of skill... (atleast for me :shrug: )You'll lose like hell against someone who actually knows what they're doing.

[SuperLuigiBros]

^haha...yeh...

The countdown has one day left, but since its japan time it could be earlier today. I dont know when their day finishes.

[Haris]

It's Monday in Japan so... shouldnt it be open by now

[Shadow19]

http://au.wii.ign.com/articles/709/709205p1.html

http://au.wii.ign.com/articles/737/737632p1.html

Confirmed a long time ago.

Thanks for the links. Can't wait till tomorrow hopefully some good Brawl news.

[Generosity of God]

It's Monday in Japan so... shouldnt it be open by now

i'd say it would be for Tuesday 22nd to kind of coincide with the Nintendo event in Seattle.

when the site opens it will be like a preview to the info the press will get at the event. that's my guess.

[Teh Roxor!]

Hmm... It says Starting Today (Japan Time). When in today in Japan?

[Shadow19]

A lot of people on other forums are saying 11PM EST tonight.

[Phoenix]

The suspense... it kills me!

[Mirai]

Hurry the fuck up Sakurai!

[SuperLuigiBros]

^haha. I woke up nice and early hoping that there would be even the slightest chance of it being up.

:(

I was wrong. Oh well. Today!

[Generosity of God]

well as of this writing it's only 8:15 AM in Japan. at least wait for Sakurai to get to work and realise he has a website to load.

[SuperLuigiBros]

If it wasnt up at 12.01am then its late and it was false advertising. Grr.

[Generosity of God]

If it wasnt up at 12.01am then its late and it was false advertising. Grr.

it says starting today. its not yet false because it's not specific to the time. if it reaches midnight tonight (Japan Time) and hasnt gone up then it was false.

[SuperLuigiBros]

I was being overly dramatic. :thumpsup:

Ive been hearing about this Nintendo event thing, is that on in Japan or America? From what Ive gathered, Japan is 2 or so hours behind Australia. Its 10am over here now, so it should be about 8am over there (its the 22nd). If its in Japan then this conference thing should be around midday or something, right?

If its in America, then I dunno wtf is going on with the times. Im going to be checking smashbros.com every hour today at uni. I have no classes so Ill be like "w00t *checks every five minutes*"

[Generosity of God]

I was being overly dramatic. :thumpsup:

Ive been hearing about this Nintendo event thing, is that on in Japan or America? From what Ive gathered, Japan is 2 or so hours behind Australia. Its 10am over here now, so it should be about 8am over there (its the 22nd). If its in Japan then this conference thing should be around midday or something, right?

If its in America, then I dunno wtf is going on with the times. Im going to be checking smashbros.com every hour today at uni. I have no classes so Ill be like "w00t *checks every five minutes*"

apparently its in Seattle so this site re-launching is probably a pre-cursor to the event happening. ie one day this site re-launches and gives us new info then the next day the Seattle event has the game in playable form.

well one can only hope.

[Phoenix]

Well whatever the case is I hope we hear something soon.

[Carlos]

I just checked the site, it says its starts today.....but I don't see a sip of info!

[Mirai]

Just so you know thecube, if you live on the east coast like I do, we're one hour ahead. So it should go live here at 1 PM...

18 minutes...

[Phoenix]

Negative two minutes. What exactly is this time referring to?

[Shadow Voa]

*waits patiently* Soon...

[Mirai]

Okay, I'm confused. There was an article saying it would go live at 12 Noon Japan time. It is now 13 past 12 over there...

[OnBake Platinum]

Hurry up stupid site!

[Phoenix]

19 past. I need to do my Spanish project but the suspense is killing me. Are you sure that site is reliable?

[Mirai]

I found it on the Smash Boards forum. They had confirmed it. I'd go on and double check, but Smash Boards is being fucking stupid and won't load for me at the moment. Perhaps we'll get luck at 1.

[Haris]

Yeah this sucks. It seems to me like they're not ready, and they're frantically trying to finish, because it seems like they're delaying it as much as they can without dissapointing fans..

[IEatFriedPikmin]

http://www.smashbros.com/img/logo_e.jpg

lol... the logo is a 360 symbol sideways.

[Phoenix]

Every time I see a new post I get my hopes up that it's an announcement that it's up.

[Haris]

Well.














It's still not up.

[Mirai]

http://www.smashbros.com/img/logo_e.jpg

lol... the logo is a 360 symbol sideways.

Actually, is the same old Smash Bros symbol sideways.

[Phoenix]

66 minutes late. Time zone mistake? Late update? What?

[Haris]

I think it's a late update.

[Mirai]

Or their just fuckin' with us coz they can...

[Haris]

Indeed.

[Mirai]

Smash Boards has finally stopped being retarded, and apparently the article just said it would be up in the afternoon in Japan, so presumably from 12 to 6 Japan time. It's currently 2:27 in Japan, so we may still have quite a wait...

[TheGreenElf]

Guys...it's just a website. Don't get your hopes too high...

[IEatFriedPikmin]

the smash brothers logo did not have curved lines like that.

[Mirai]

And the 360 logo has lines of the same width, and a whole bunch of other differences...

[Haris]

Can we stop talking about the logo?

[Haris]

By the way, the site's up. But looks sort of empty.

[Mirai]

Yeah, very much so...

[Ch1cago88]

I can't wait till the site goes live, so then we can all see the "coming soon" text on all the links. WOOT!

I was pretty damn close.

[Khaos]

Music: Menu 1

Nice little rearrangement.

[koten]

Exactly what I was expecting. Nothing.

[IEatFriedPikmin]

video is up

[Haris]

Haha sweet snake's got the stinger missles

[Shadow Voa]

Im happy since I heard the Smash theme. ^^

[DankHero]

It's been updated with a characters section with mario and link on it

[SuperLuigiBros]

^Yep, and the picture of Link with his bow is really cool.

[Link_of_Time]

wow this thread was a huge waste of time. 2 pics of mario and link.

[Phoenix]

Well, there will be more eventually.

[Carlos]

Interesting site. I like what they did with it.

[DankHero]

Now there is a gooey bomb

[Phoenix]

That thing looks like it'll be really fun. All the fun of proximity mines-only Goldeneye, now in SSB form!

[Generosity of God]

That thing looks like it'll be really fun. All the fun of proximity mines-only Goldeneye, now in SSB form!

proximity mines are probably my most favoured item in SSBM so the gooey bomb should be just as fun to use.

also Pit has been added in the character section. it says that you can control the trajectory of his light arrows. i wonder what the control will be for that. unless there is one of the unannounced new characters is better, i'll be trying out Pit first. Snake, Zero-Suit Samus, Wario and Meta Knight will follow later.

[Mirai]

It'll probably work like controlling Link's boomerang.

I'm looking forward to Pitt and Meta Knight, though I'm worried they might be a bit over powered with their seemingly kick ass movesets and the ability to multiple jump.

[Phoenix]

Well, from the video it doesn't look like anyone isn't awesome. I'm sure they'll do a good job with balance.

[Mirai]

Yeah, I don't see them screwing up balance when they had it so good in Melee.

I'm really curious as to whether they're intending to revamp Ganondorf. He really needs some moves that reflect him from the games.

[version2.0]

I find myself hoping, and dreading that they revamp Ganondorf. I want him changed so they can get rid of clones, but I want him to stay the same since I prefer him way over captain falcon...

Oh the dillemma..

[Phoenix]

No one will stay entirely the same.

[Generosity of God]

i think Ganondorf should throw energy/magic like he's been doing in OoT, WW and TP. i dont care what else they do with him as long as they give him that.

anyways. Today's update shows 2 of Pit's special moves.

normal special move = Palutena Bow. shoots an arrow of light. hold up/down after shooting makes it curve up/down but it travels really fast so got to be quick.

up special move = Wings of Icarus. lets him fly for a little while. (i'm guessing probably similar to Kirby's floating)

sounds good. i wish they would show more per update though. oh well.

[SuperLuigiBros]

^They dont show much per update because they have to spread it out. It updates daily for god knows how long, so there has to be alot of info.

[Generosity of God]

^They dont show much per update because they have to spread it out. It updates daily for god knows how long, so there has to be alot of info.

i know they have to spread it out but did they honestly need to save the 2 other special moves for later?

[Lynk Former]

Let's assume SSBB is coming out sometime in November... how many weekdays are between now and then? Quit complaining, they're keeping their promise of updating the site on every weekday and you're getting information.

[SuperLuigiBros]

I love it because I have something to look forward to every single day.

Im living a life thats permanently held in suspense.

[Phoenix]

Yeah, it's quite nice, although the chance of there being old news released (and there's still quite a bit of old news left) leaves a little room for disappointment. No complaints here, though, because that's better than no information every single day like before.

[Generosity of God]

Let's assume SSBB is coming out sometime in November... how many weekdays are between now and then? Quit complaining, they're keeping their promise of updating the site on every weekday and you're getting information.

ok lets assume.

from now until the end of november is around 130 week days.

so assume that there will be the same amount of characters as melee, 25 (but possibly more).

-that leaves 22 characters to reveal (mario, Link and pit are revealed on the site)

-special moves for 24.5 characters

-ultimate screen filling moves for 25 characters

-stages for 25 characters plus extra non-character related stages

-different modes

-different items

-more how to play info

-more music info

-notices like release dates

-and so on

there is plenty of stuff for them to be able to show all 4 special moves per character.

i'm not complaining about a lack of info or anythin. i appreciate the weekday updates and i only wished they would show more per day. i'm sure alot of us do. i just find it silly that with how much info they are likely to have, they only decided to show half of a characters special moves for one day.

[Lynk Former]

But then it'll be like waiting for information on Twilight Princess... that wasn't very fun was it.

[Teh Roxor!]

http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/characters/images/mario/mario_070529b-l.jpg
Sweet!

[Skull Kid]

That is such an awesome picture.

[Ch1cago88]

The final smash is actually an item? Blah, I was hoping you could build momentum or something while fighting to earn it. I don't know how I exactly feel about this yet...

[Phoenix]

They showed the item in the video.

Also, Yoshi has unofficially been confirmed as a playable character now that they have updated with a Yoshi's Story remix into the music section. It's pretty obvious I guess, but news is news...

[Teh Roxor!]

Haha, that Yoshi Story song makes me smile.

And I've said this a hundred times, but I love the awkward english on that page.

Is it really fair to play Yoshi’s voice at that moment?

It’s enough to make a guy cry at the end.

[OnBake Platinum]

I really hope Ridley is in this game, it would be so awesome.

[Phoenix]

Now that this song has been released, we can continue speculation on the long-forgotten but never solved mystery: what is it that the Yoshis are singing?

[OnBake Platinum]

Racial warfare between the secret black and white yoshis.

[Teh Roxor!]

I decided long ago that what they are singing is not in English. I think that they are words that express such a high degree of happiness that there aren't words that can describe it accurately in the English language.

[Phoenix]

So... they're in Yoshi?

[Teh Roxor!]

More or less. They only need like ten words. Things like "happy," "hungry," "egg," "sing," "eat," etc.

[Phoenix]

Apparently they would need more, seeing as the entire population of Yoshi Village in Paper Mario speaks fluent English. Perhaps it's just because of tourism?

[Mirai]

For those of you who were unaware, Sakurai had, up until a few months ago, been making regular updates on the Japanese site, giving away little tidbids of information here and there.

They were translated by a guy over at Smash Boards (http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=72642). I'll share the most interesting pieces for those unaware.


- Non-Nintendo characters must have appeared on a Nintendo platform.

- The tentative number of non-Nintendo characters is 1 to 2, although it's unclear whether this includes Snake.

- The speed of the game will be "moderated." Unclear whether this means slower or faster, but slower is more likely.

- Not all character's will return, though no hints at anyone getting the axe.

- Every character's ability is being refined from the very beginning in order to allow "more freedom" in aerial combat. A greater emphasis is being placed on aerial combat this time around, though to what extent is not known.

- If they add online functionality to the game (they are still working out technical difficulties), they do not plan to add a ranking system to online battles, so as to keep the focus on having fun instead of who's better than who.

- Sakurai stated, "This time, we'd like to stress easiness over the small details of combat, so overall it might become somewhat easier."

- Now that Smash is world-renowned, they don't want to include characters only popular in Japan. However, due to the success of the Fire Emblem characters, they still may.

- Non-Nintendo characters will be unlockable, rather than a part of the initial roster.

- Sakurai will reveal all characters in the game, though the secret characters will most likely be revealed after Brawl is released, much like the secret characters for Melee were.

There are more tidbids if you want to search through it yourself, just follow the link (http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=72642).

[Hisham]

For those of you who were unaware, Sakurai had, up until a few months ago, been making regular updates on the Japanese site, giving away little tidbids of information here and there.

They were translated by a guy over at Smash Boards (http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=72642). I'll share the most interesting pieces for those unaware.


- Non-Nintendo characters must have appeared on a Nintendo platform.

- The tentative number of non-Nintendo characters is 1 to 2, although it's unclear whether this includes Snake.

- The speed of the game will be "moderated." Unclear whether this means slower or faster, but slower is more likely.

- Not all character's will return, though no hints at anyone getting the axe.

- Every character's ability is being refined from the very beginning in order to allow "more freedom" in aerial combat. A greater emphasis is being placed on aerial combat this time around, though to what extent is not known.

- If they add online functionality to the game (they are still working out technical difficulties), they do not plan to add a ranking system to online battles, so as to keep the focus on having fun instead of who's better than who.

- Sakurai stated, "This time, we'd like to stress easiness over the small details of combat, so overall it might become somewhat easier."

- Now that Smash is world-renowned, they don't want to include characters only popular in Japan. However, due to the success of the Fire Emblem characters, they still may.

- Non-Nintendo characters will be unlockable, rather than a part of the initial roster.

- Sakurai will reveal all characters in the game, though the secret characters will most likely be revealed after Brawl is released, much like the secret characters for Melee were.

There are more tidbids if you want to search through it yourself, just follow the link (http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=72642).

Air combos ala Marvel vs. Capcom FTW!

I would so rape everyone then (maybe haha)... 50 hit air combo!

[Phoenix]

I hope they don't oversimplify the game to the point that there's not as much strategy involved.

[Blaksmoke]

I hope they bring back that acoustic bossa nova for Delphino Plaza. That song was like, the best thing about Mario Sunshine.

[Shadow Voa]

Im looking forward to a remixed version of the Fire Emblem theme, I would also like to see a level designed for the FE characters in this game. It was kinda lame sharing Hyrule Temple grounds as their level and Link's.

Anywhere would be awesome, in a castle, mountain, bridge, cave, I dont care so long as its Fire Emblem. Maybe some big battle ensuing in the background and your Brawl fight going on in the foreground.

[koten]

I'm pretty sure that every character is going to have their own personal stage. That alone is an exciting prospect. Imagen how many unique stratagies you could think up. :3

[Phoenix]

Pokéballs have been added to the site.

Old: The way they work, Chikorita using Razor Leaf, Goldeen using Splash.
New: Groudon.

[Shadow Voa]

Seems like that confirms the return of Pokemon Stadium from Melee.

[Phoenix]

Indeed. No word on if it changes or not yet though.

[Carlos]

- The speed of the game will be "moderated." Unclear whether this means slower or faster, but slower is more likely.
I don't like the sound of this.

I mean, melee was fun just because it was a frantic, fast game. It was crazy stuff...Ehh, I don't like the sound of it at all.

[OnBake Platinum]

I wanted them to use the battle revolution Pokemon models, those racists.

[version2.0]

I don't like the sound of this.

I mean, melee was fun just because it was a frantic, fast game. It was crazy stuff...Ehh, I don't like the sound of it at all.

People keep saying that the game-pace has been changed, but I know Fox's speed and jump height so much that I can play with my eyes closed, and I could tell in the short clip we saw of him in the video that he was virtually unchanged.

... at least in the speed aspect...

besides, I haven't noticed any big difference in mario's, link's, pikachu's, or kirby's speed either, and I play with all those characters. The only thing that seemed strange to me was just how fast Metaknight and Pit rolled, if you blinked you could miss it.

[SuperLuigiBros]

^Yeh thats something I noticed, too. They said its been slowed down but in all the trailers they all seems pretty normal.

Oh, and theres a new update. Its something about a move to stop people from recovering. Or did I read it wrong?

[version2.0]

its just explaining that up - B is great for recovery, and then he just hints at the fact that preventing recovery is a crucial part to winning a match.

[Mirai]

Yeah, I'm not terribly worried about the idea of speed being moderated, they wouldn't do it without due cause. I'm just looking forward to the new aerial emphasis, since that's my play style already.

Also, Pokemon Stadium was in one of the trailers, for those who thought that was news...

Another tidbid, for Fox players. If you watch his appearance at the end of the Nintendo World trailer, you'll notice his stance has changed dramatically. He now bops up and down in a tae kwon do stance. So far, of the returning characters he seems to be the most drastically altered, as he now seems to have his blaster out more often as well.

[SuperLuigiBros]

^Maybe thats why they have only shown a few characters so far. They could all be dramatically different.

*is scared*

*but not really*

[koten]

The announced the Edge Hang today... How fancy.

[Phoenix]

Just part of the "how to play" section. They can't devote the entire site to new information, or it would be useless once the game is released.

[Mirai]

Yeah... Alternatively they could not have daily updates... I love how many people have read an update we already new about and complained, as though they're not living up to some standards...

[TheGreenElf]

I really hope Ridley is in this game, it would be so awesome.

Nintendo isn't that cool...but I can't wait for this game...because that means I will own Battalion Wars II by that time...

[Unspoken]

Kirby and Pikachu's information is now up.





Joy.

[Phoenix]

Once again the semi-bad English is semi-humorous.

[BananaBabeQT]

I want to know more about the supposed to Wi-Fi features, anyone seen any real info on that?

[Phoenix]

Nope, not yet. Any news will almost certainly make that site before anywhere else.

[Mirai]

Those out there holding out for Online Smashing, don't get your hopes up, Sakurai has stated several times that it will be a difficult game to get online, mostly because the issues of lag and such would ruin a fast paced game like Smash Bros...

[SuperLuigiBros]

Yeh, at the moment they still arnt sure if it will even be in there. If they can get it working then theyll have 1 on 1 matches... but its very unlikely there will be match with 4 players.

1 on 1 online would be perfect for me. I like the game alot more when its just 1v1 matches. But even if they dont implement it, half the fun of smash bros is being able to yell at the people next to you.

[BananaBabeQT]

Yeh, at the moment they still arnt sure if it will even be in there. If they can get it working then theyll have 1 on 1 matches... but its very unlikely there will be match with 4 players.

1 on 1 online would be perfect for me. I like the game alot more when its just 1v1 matches. But even if they dont implement it, half the fun of smash bros is being able to yell at the people next to you.

I see the 1 on 1 matches being more likely. I think they could cut out most of the lag for something like that, but it's true that it might change the fast paced gameplay we are used to.

Agreed haha

[SuperLuigiBros]

Another thing that could change the fast paced game we're used to is the different speed thats been announced. Maybe it wont be too hard to put online in..?

[BananaBabeQT]

Good point, forgot about that... I don't know if this new speed thing will be such a good idea. I loved the button-mashing madness of SSB

[SuperLuigiBros]

Button-mashing??!!??!?!

Blashphemy!

I doubt the new speed will be anything to worry about. It probably wont have any effect of the online thing either. But if its so hard to make online I guess maybe it could help a bit.

Another thing I thought of a while ago is many people are expecting/hoping that itll be online. If its released without online then people like IGN could score it lower because the online aint good enough when it just isnt possible.

*shrug*

Oh well, its not like Im going to pass on it just becasue IGN gives it a 9/10 or whatever.

[Shadow Voa]

Iwata Im sure knows how important SSBB is and with that in mind, knows how important SSBB is with wifi battles. They go hand in hand, it was what I want most out of this game... besides Crono being a secret character!! :cloud9:
(I can dream..)

[Phoenix]

Good point, forgot about that... I don't know if this new speed thing will be such a good idea. I loved the button-mashing madness of SSBSSB has never been button mashing!

[BananaBabeQT]

Actually, since I enjoyed MY button mashing, in fact, it has been button mashing in my book, so shove it :)

[Teh Roxor!]

Define "button mashing."

[BananaBabeQT]

Pressing A, B etc, really fast in no particular strategical order in hopes that you win.

[SuperLuigiBros]

hahaha

>_>

[Phoenix]

Well, if you enjoy doing it, then by all means keep doing it, but just for the record not all of us play it that way.

[Teh Roxor!]

Haha, okay, then no. A lot of thought goes into which buttons I press when playing against my friends or people who play well.

[SuperLuigiBros]

I press all the right buttons at all the right times because Im pro. Its pretty much a symphony of perfection.

[Mirai]

The speed won't be that altered. Considering no one really noticed any difference in speed in the trailers, it can't be that different...

[TheGreenElf]

If online is pulled from the game, I'm not even going to buy it...

[Generosity of God]

sites been updated. very interesting update at that

4 kinds of control schemes.

Gamecube controller

Classic controller

Wii remote + nunchuk

Wii remote sideways (like excite truck and sonic)

no detailed info though. just what controllers you can use. i'll be looking forward to seeing how the Wii Remote sideways works.

[BananaBabeQT]

Thats interesting. You can have a four person battle with each using a different style of controls lol. I think I'll stick to the gamecube controls

[SuperLuigiBros]

^haha, yeh. That would be interesting. +rep, because I didnt think of that.

I can sort of imagine how the wii controls would work though. With the nun-chuck movement would obviously be the control stick and youd flick the wiimote and press A for a smash move.

With the Wiimote on the side it'd be the d-pad for movement (not so cool) and then flick the remote to a side and press 2.

...Or something.

Either way, I think the Gamecube controller will emerge as the preferred control style. The Wii mote and nun chuck will probably be a bit of fun too, though.

[Mirai]

Yeah, I'll be sticking to the Gamecube Controller, mostly because I don't own a Wii yet, and I only intent to pick one up to play Brawl, so it's a lot cheaper for my buddies and I to stick to the Cube set up.

[Ch1cago88]

From the Nintendo Magazine in the UK.


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v104/Ch1cago88/onmsm.jpg

[Eidorian]

Looks like I'll need to buy more Gamecube controllers. Smash Bros. Melee killed my current ones after constant hours of play.

[Phoenix]

If online is pulled from the game, I'm not even going to buy it...Did you not buy Melee just because it had no online?

I'll probably stick with the Gamecube controls as well, but I'll need to get a new controller for that, my old ones are really worn out from PSO and SSBM overuse.

[Lynk Former]

About online... I don't need online... cause I have friends XD

[Too Slow]

I press all the right buttons at all the right times because Im pro. Its pretty much a symphony of perfection.

I'm a symphony of destruction with Pikachu

[Phoenix]

"You take a mortal Pikachu..."

[Too Slow]

Wait, is online gonna be pulled? I don't have friends to play with

[Phoenix]

It almost certainly will not be pulled.

[Too Slow]

I might have to throw myself off a cliff if it was pulled. Is there a release date yet?

[Lynk Former]

Calm down nympho... no one really knows for sure what's going on yet. Wait for official word.

[Too Slow]

Fine!

[Zeep]

Why does everyone suddenly think they're pulling wifi? They haven't announced anything to the contrary.

[TheGreenElf]

Did you not buy Melee just because it had no online?

I, unfortunately bought it at $50. Maybe if it were $15 or something...but it's pretty shallow...online would improve it greatly. Plus...it doesn't matter, it's already been confirmed multiple times to support wifi.

[Mirai]

From the Nintendo Magazine in the UK.


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v104/Ch1cago88/onmsm.jpg

Wow, that magazine really needs to know what the fuck it's talking about before stating things as facts.

Considering what control styles were supported hadn't been revealed officially anywhere before the official site updated yesterday, how could they confirm as fact what would and wouldn't be supported as far as controls go?

Also, though it hasn't been pulled yet, Sakurai has expressed difficulty bringing the game online, even referring to it in the context of "if," rather than "when." So yeah, there are issues and it isn't absolutely certain that it will be online.

That said, whoever said that Brawl will get old like Melee did without online play, I'd imagine you're short on friends to play it with? Either way, I beg to differ (oppinions have that effect of course), this is easily the most played game amongst my group of friends. Six years and a generation of consoles later, I, sadly, must disagree.

[Teh Roxor!]

Even if it is online, the online play will probably suck. You will probably have the option to play against random people, possibly with similar win/loss stats, or you can play with the people you have the friend code of. It will probably be laggy, too.

I don't think Melee was shallow. The attacks may have been simple, but the freedom of movement changes everything.

[Phoenix]

I don't trust Nintendo to do the online right either. I don't know if they're just too afraid to be sued or if they aren't capable of doing good online yet, but either way, don't expect much.

[Too Slow]

Even with bad online i would still beat you ass

[Phoenix]

Big talk from someone who almost certainly has not played anyone except local friends and acquaintances. However, considering I haven't played many other people either I am equally unable to say that you can't, so we'll just leave it to "we'll see." After all, neither of us have even played the game yet.

[Too Slow]

Fine, you win

[Generosity of God]

Even if it is online, the online play will probably suck. You will probably have the option to play against random people, possibly with similar win/loss stats, or you can play with the people you have the friend code of. It will probably be laggy, too.

I don't think Melee was shallow. The attacks may have been simple, but the freedom of movement changes everything.

Mario Strikers Charged has a pretty good online set up and only needs sleight improvements to be suitable for SSBB.

in MSC, you can play against random people from your region (to cut down on lag). before you get paired you are shown a connection rating from 1-4 stars (4 being the best). if you dont like the connection you can reject it and search for something else. 4 stars is not guaranteed to be lag free but it is nearly every time.

playing against a random person is called a ranked match and you can check your rank in the leader board. leaderboard shows your season ranking, top 10 season leaders, your daily ranking and the top 10 daily leaders. i dont know how long a season goes for but there is a clock that shows how long the season has been going for.

you can play against friends using friend codes and since your friends should already be on your Wii's friend code list it shouldnt be hard to send them a message saying "i got (game name here) this is my code (code here)".

there is a leaderboard for your friends list also. friendly matches do not affect the random rankings.

it may not sound like the best online setup but it is easy to use.

there are a small number of improvements needed though.

- PAL vs NTSC capability. the SMC booklet says the two versions wont be compatible online. rather disappointing. once it is released in North America i would like to trade friend codes with one of you to test if this is true.

- worldwide random player search. SMC searches only with in your region. we should have the choice to search wherever we want.

- vioce chat. i dont want to chat with random people but we should have the option to chat with friends. let us hope that Nintendo release a headset to co-incide with SSBB's release.

- more capable servers. the friday afternoon after SMC was released in Europe, their servers crashed for a day or so. why? too many people went online at once. they have it fixed now but if SSBB releases with online (which it should because so many people are expecting it after they promised so) they should be overestimate the number of people online. we really dont want SSBB online to crash now do we?

other than that i dont think anything else is needed for Nintendo to have a good online setup. what they've given is easy to use. you can get into a random match straight away. friend codes are a bit cumbersome but nothing to go crying about.

have a bit more faith in Nintendo's online people. i've experienced it with SMC. it isnt bad and should only get better.

[Mirai]

Some of the "they better coz they said and coz I want it and coz of this and coz of that" on the online side of things is really fuckin' stupid. They'll do the best they can, and if they can get it to work like it should, then we'll get it.

If they can't get it to work properly, but released it anyway, the same sorts will turn around and say "ZOMG!1! Ths game iz shit coz it';s online is ghey!"

For those of you with high hopes for the online side of things, save your breath and use it to go make some friends, coz otherwise there's a good chance your just gonna be disappointed.

[Teh Roxor!]

you can play against friends using friend codes and since your friends should already be on your Wii's friend code list it shouldnt be hard to send them a message saying "i got (game name here) this is my code (code here)".
That's the part that kills me! Why on Earth are they implementing separate friends lists for the Wii and the online enabled games? That sounds like it's more trouble for both us and them. It's frustrating mostly because I cannot think of one good reason for it.

[version2.0]

I, unfortunately bought it at $50. Maybe if it were $15 or something...but it's pretty shallow...

:realmad You are dead to me... :realmad

[Generosity of God]

Some of the "they better coz they said and coz I want it and coz of this and coz of that" on the online side of things is really fuckin' stupid. They'll do the best they can, and if they can get it to work like it should, then we'll get it.

you make it sound like i was demanding it.

let me rephrase it so that you wont misunderstand again.

it should have online because Iwata intended to have it online. people are now looking forward to it. if they dont people will feel let down. Nintendo usually try not to let people down. so i think SSBB should have online because Nintendo will be working hard to get it right so as to not let people down.

[Mirai]

You make it sound like it was directed at you.

Let me rephrase it so that you won't misunderstand again.

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I even linked you to the definitions, just in case you have trouble with the big words.

Plus rep for trying though, coz that's what big boys do, they try.

[Phoenix]

I didn't know what "in" meant until you linked it. Thanks. :P

[Mirai]

No probs.

[Generosity of God]

You make it sound like it was directed at you.

Let me rephrase it so that you won't misunderstand again.

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I even linked you to the definitions, just in case you have trouble with the big words.

Plus rep for trying though, coz that's what big boys do, they try.

well considering i was the only person to say it in this thread, you pretty much were directing it at me. i thought it was important to rephrase my statement so as to seperate myself from all the cry babies who are demanding online.

for a 19 year old, you still have a bit of maturing to do. there was absolutely no need to throw in all the sarcasm. lastly, dont try to make me out to be some stupid little child. if you had bothered to look around you would see i am older than you.

thanks for the +rep but i'd have prefered a -rep when you act like such an ass.

[Mirai]

Yep. I got a shit load of maturing to do. Judging by my life expectancy, I'd say I got roughly 50 years of it, give or take.

Your actually going to try and tell me that you haven't used sarcasm since you were 18? Wow, now that's some ignorance.

So I was directing it at you? Have you said that they better put it in or the game will suck? Have you said something along the lines of the fact that you're owed online? If you answer no to both of these questions, then it was not directed at you. Hooray for you. If you answer yes to either, then I will stick to my previous oppinion that these comments, and those who make them, are fucking stupid.

When you say you were the only person to say something along the lines of what I was criticising, I'm sure I can find someone more applicable on this page alone, let alone in the entire thread and the rest of the forum.

For a 21 year old, you still have a bit of maturing to do. I mean, if you can't take a little sarcasm and a little joke, good luck with the rest of what the world has to throw at you.

Oh, and yes, I can see you are older than me. That was the joke (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/joke).

[Khaos]

So, how about that game. I am definitely picking it up...

[Lynk Former]

Okay...

Anywayz, with or without online play, I'm sure the mechanics of the game will be bloody great.

[Mirai]

Yeah, I'm looking forward to seeing how the new emphasis on aerial battles will effect the characters. On the official site, the pics where they show Mario recovering make it look like he's able to jump further in this game, though I don't use Mario that often, so someone else might have to take a look for me.

I get the feeling the characters who are cut in this game may be the ones who just wouldn't work with the new aerial emphasis, e.g. Bowser.

[Phoenix]

And very few people played as him anyway, seeing how he sucked and all.

[SuperLuigiBros]

But its Bowser. If Smash Bros is defined as a game where all of Nintendo's most famous characters duke it out, then after Mario, Bowser would be the most important addition.

[Mirai]

Yeah, I completely agree, he's just an example. He'll probably just be changed up big time.

[ScratchedAt]

What game?
I was watching Springer and all of a sudden you talk about a game?

[Lynk Former]

Hidden update.... ;)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v629/lynk/japantime.png

[Mirai]

What's he mean, press the control stick in one direction twice?

Odd.

[BigfootGus]

thats shocking news!!!

[bobo_ess]

Yeah, I completely agree, he's just an example. He'll probably just be changed up big time.

they should let him use his flying machine for a short amount of time

[koten]

That's weird. I always just tap the controller hard in one direction and they run. Never had to do the double tap thingy they always said.

[OnBake Platinum]

You can do both.

[Mirai]

Yeah, same here. I'm not even sure if that works in Melee at all...

[Lynk Former]

*looks around* I'm not sure if people in here are joking around or actually do believe that picture to be... real

[Zeep]

This thread is growing out of control. I'm trying to think if there would be any good way to split it up into smaller threads, but I'm not sure there is. Oh well. Loving the daily updates, even if most of them are useless.

[Mirai]

I think we should just sticky it and make it the official hype thread.

[SuperLuigiBros]

This thread is better than a bunch of new threads each time theres an update.

[version2.0]

And very few people played as him anyway, seeing how he sucked and all.

Blashphemy!

Bowser does NOT suck! I managed to beat just about every kid in my highschool with bowser. (It was during finals, and most students had the days off but came anyways to play games in the commons) Bowser makes up for his lack of speed with strength, and more importantly, weight. Bowser has the option to not dodge, then hit the oppenent when he doesn't fly away. Bowser is also not really that slow of a character, he can be greatly sped up with a combination of short-hops, non-smashes, and quick recovers. (Its my own personal name for it, its where you press R/L when landing during an aerial attack to speed the recovery time) He also has an amazing Side-Special that allows him to defeat those annoying sheild-grabbers.

There... rant over.

[Ch1cago88]

Blashphemy!

Bowser does NOT suck! I managed to beat just about every kid in my highschool with bowser. (It was during finals, and most students had the days off but came anyways to play games in the commons) Bowser makes up for his lack of speed with strength, and more importantly, weight. Bowser has the option to not dodge, then hit the oppenent when he doesn't fly away. Bowser is also not really that slow of a character, he can be greatly sped up with a combination of short-hops, non-smashes, and quick recovers. (Its my own personal name for it, its where you press R/L when landing during an aerial attack to speed the recovery time) He also has an amazing Side-Special that allows him to defeat those annoying sheild-grabbers.

There... rant over.

Bowser sucks.

[ScratchedAt]

Hows about we start an official thread and keep the updates on the first post? It's easier to filter out conversation and stuff...

[Phoenix]

That doesn't mean Bowser is good, it just means that either you're good or your high school sucks. Had you invested equal time and effort to almost anyone else, you would be even better. But if you like playing Bowser, who am I to say you can't?

Also, Fox has been added to the site.

[Lynk Former]

I hope Falco comes back... I really do. And I'm sure they're gonna put Krystal in.

[Phoenix]

Yeah, she's in my list of most wanted characters.

[Lynk Former]

In a strange way it'll be the first time we'll be able to use Krystal PROPERLY as a melee fighter lol.

[Mirai]

Fox's details are up. So very glad to see him return.

[Lynk Former]

I like his communications+visual readout headset...

[Phoenix]

Fox's details are up. So very glad to see him return.I would hardly call those details.I like his communications+visual readout headset...Yeah but his head's too triangular and such. His cheeks look like a certain blue Pokémon which shall remain nameless.

[Lynk Former]

Yeah well it is quite the transition between the Star Fox 64 design to the Star Fox Command design...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v629/lynk/foxbrawlmelee.png

[Phoenix]

I thought the Wii version of a game was supposed to look MORE realistic than the Gamecube version. Should they use a Diamond/Pearl sprite of Pikachu just because it's more recent than Coliseum?

[Lynk Former]

Making things more "realistic" isn't the aim though... in terms of character designs, aside from Mario, Pikachu and Kirby, who change very little in terms of overall design, characters like Fox and Link have different versions and so the latest versions of their characters are used in Smash Bros.

[Phoenix]

The Pikachu in Diamond and Pearl is newer than the one used in Melee, why not change to that one? They shouldn't consider a handheld incarnation of a character the most recent.

[SuperLuigiBros]

New Fox > Old Fox.

It doesnt matter if the old one looks more like a real fox, because real foxes dont run around on their hind legs shooting guns and flying planes and such. The new one looks way cooler, I dont know how anyone could think otherwise.

[Lynk Former]

The Pikachu in Diamond and Pearl is newer than the one used in Melee, why not change to that one? They shouldn't consider a handheld incarnation of a character the most recent.
You mean the female Pikachu's with the V in their tails? Cause other than that, Pikachu has stayed basically the same since the beginning, unless you want him to be a 2D sprite-like character similar to Mr. Game&Watch...

[Phoenix]

New Fox > Old Fox.

It doesnt matter if the old one looks more like a real fox, because real foxes dont run around on their hind legs shooting guns and flying planes and such. The new one looks way cooler, I dont know how anyone could think otherwise.The new one looks all deformed is what I'm saying. Even with the real textures, he still looks polygonal like he was on the DS.

[Lynk Former]

That's the idea...

[Phoenix]

Whatever, I just think he looks ridiculous. It seems we have a mere contrast of opinions, let's just stop here and get on with the discussion/updates/hype.

[koten]

And the fact that he's an anthromorphic Fox in a vest, green pants, a headset and weilding a gun doesn't bother you at all.

Also, judging from the pictures on the site, he hasn't been changed as much as people say he has. He still seemes to have the dash and the fire move and seems to put his gun away when not shooting.

[Phoenix]

And the fact that he's an anthromorphic Fox in a vest, green pants, a headset and weilding a gun doesn't bother you at all.No more than a fat Italian plumber, a giant dinosaur, an electric mouse, a solid black 2D humanoid shape and 2 pink balloons bother me. :P

"Weird" and "hideous" are two different things. But whatever, back on topic por favor!

[Teh Roxor!]

Run! Fly! Move boldly!

Fox is one of those characters who has never and never will look the same, like Bowser. In Super Smash Bros. games, they usually just use the look of the last game the character was in, like Link. Personally I disliked the Assault look, but while this maintains the Assault shape, I like it a bit better. I think Dinosaur planet got the head best, but his arms were way too short. In this model, his head is shaped weird, but everything else has nice proportions. Plus, in this one his costume has been completely updated, so he’s full of fighting spirit!

[Mirai]

And the fact that he's an anthromorphic Fox in a vest, green pants, a headset and weilding a gun doesn't bother you at all.

Also, judging from the pictures on the site, he hasn't been changed as much as people say he has. He still seemes to have the dash and the fire move and seems to put his gun away when not shooting.

In the Nintendo World trailer, he is shown just standing around with his gun out, though this seems to have been changed since.

[SuperLuigiBros]

The pastel stage of Yoshi’s Island...
Mmm... It feels nice and peaceful here.
http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/stages/images/stage03/stage03_070612a-l.jpg
The central platform tilts to and fro.

Shy Guys often make guest appearances, and the Support Ghost can appear suddenly, aiding players on occasion.
http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/stages/images/stage03/stage03_070612b-l.jpg
The whimsical Support Ghost.

The highlight of this stage is its seasonal changes, as it goes from spring to summer to fall and then winter.
http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/stages/images/stage03/stage03_070612c-l.jpg
Fall comes...
http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/stages/images/stage03/stage03_070612d-l.jpg
And even in winter, the brawl battles on.

It certainly has its own distinct air.
Change is sometimes good.


Yay! This looks like itll be my favorite level. I love Yoshi's Island and this level has the same feel to it. It looks so awesome. Look at the moon in the winter one. <3

[OnBake Platinum]

That stage does look completely awesome.

[SuperLuigiBros]

I havnt changed my background in months, but I think Ill have to change it to that first picture. Its just so freakin awesome. Cant get much better than the good ol' Yoshi's Island. Oh, and Smash Bros Melee is my favorite game, and Yoshis Island is my second favorite game... so this..!

*dies*

On a more serious note, this is a step in the right direction for having little old school things sprinkled throughout the game. The only thing I want more than this sweet level is pixelated versions of each character as a different suit or something. This idea has been put forward around here about 10 million times. And justly so.

[Mirai]

Yeah, little throw backs to old school games, and games that aren't necassarily related to Smash Bros, like the Mario Kart stage, seem to be more prominent this time around.

[SuperLuigiBros]

Theyve even got that freaking sweet effect around the platform and a few other things to keep it looking hand drawn. Cant wait to see all the other stages with all their little details and intricacies.

[Mirai]

This level looks really open, but small at the same time... There's lots of space to the side, should be fun...

[Shadow Voa]

PLay it or dont, how complicated is that? I can hope for whatever I want in Brawl, doesnt mean it's going to happen.. but no one can tell me otherwise not to hope all the same.

Seriously, its a friggin game, a sweet ass game, but a game none the less.

[Phoenix]

Wow, that's a pretty sweet-looking stage. I like it.

[Teh Roxor!]

That stage does look completely awesome.
Haha, yeah. I love how the borders on the platforms look like they've been drawn with a crayon.

[Lynk Former]

Every time I see images of that level I get the Yoshi's Island level theme playing in my head XD