A Few PS3 Statistics

[FantasyGhost]

Things that make you go ... Hmmm.
Using US and Japanese sales data I present to you a graph of the first 24 weeks of life for the PS family of consoles (not PSP). As you can see the PS3 is clearly out pacing the PS1 and is slightly behind the pace of the PS2. Given the huge amount of buzz coming in the future months for the PS3 we'll update this chart for you and see where we are.

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Yes...we could bother to compare against the other consoles...but why bother since the GAMECUBE would be out pacing the PS2 at this point and we know what happened there!http://sonyprotectiongroup.com/index.php?mode=viewid&post_id=161
During the recent Gamers Day Event that Sony held, the company revealed the latest PSN network stats and figures. In six months since the PS3's launch, Sony now has 1.5 million users worldwide, 775,000 of those users hail from North America. Apparently, users have now downloaded six million pieces of content and have logged in over 115 million times. When compared to MS during the same six-month period after launch, the Xbox 360 had 500,000 users with either Gold or Silver memberships.http://gameinformer.com/News/Story/200705/N07.0517.0212.56328.htm?Page=1

[CrumCon]

except that PS1 managed to sell more than 30 million units in the U.S.

could PS3 do that?

[Xer0]

Yes...we could bother to compare against the other consoles...but why bother since the GAMECUBE would be out pacing the PS2 at this point and we know what happened there!

Well thats dumb, he just said that all of this doesnt really mater.

And if anyone is interested, there is a thread like this in general that compares the counsels first 6 months.

[rpgamer_2k5]

except that PS1 managed to sell more than 30 million units in the U.S.

could PS3 do that? You have an inability to comprehend the concept of velocity (sales/month)? Why would it not reach this figure.

Xer0, wrong hit, imo. Those figures ARE interesting. A hell lot more than most of the threads w.r.t the sales issue. I never did much of a cross-sales analysis between the three consoles so if the velocity of the PS3 is almost equivalent to the PS2 with limited games then it tells us that the sales will go beyond the PS2. That's a prediction with more reasoning than the vast majority of analysts that many inside and outside the forum believe.

[FantasyGhost]

This also shows that people buy a PS3 not just for gaming alone, but also as a Blu-ray player, a small media PC, and a device that helps into finding a cure for cancer.

[Z]

You have an inability to comprehend the concept of velocity (sales/month)? Why would it not reach this figure.

Xer0, wrong hit, imo. Those figures ARE interesting. A hell lot more than most of the threads w.r.t the sales issue. I never did much of a cross-sales analysis between the three consoles so if the velocity of the PS3 is almost equivalent to the PS2 with limited games then it tells us that the sales will go beyond the PS2. That's a prediction with more reasoning than the vast majority of analysts that many inside and outside the forum believe.

and a much higher price tag. don't forget that crucial factor. ;)

[VG Aficionado]

and a much higher price tag. don't forget that crucial factor. ;)And with the media crapping on it at the slightest chance and having to compete with the PS2 that seems unstoppable.

[Sephiroth_VII]

To be a fair, both PSX and PS2 suffered from supply problems in the first few months, so they have an excuse for their initially low sales. PS3 definitely doesn't.

[jako]

is this site a reliable source ?

[Xer0]

Xer0, wrong hit, imo. Those figures ARE interesting. A hell lot more than most of the threads w.r.t the sales issue. I never did much of a cross-sales analysis between the three consoles so if the velocity of the PS3 is almost equivalent to the PS2 with limited games then it tells us that the sales will go beyond the PS2. That's a prediction with more reasoning than the vast majority of analysts that many inside and outside the forum believe.

Yes...we could bother to compare against the other consoles...but why bother since the GAMECUBE would be out pacing the PS2 at this point and we know what happened there!

Yes, we do know how that happened, the Gamecube burned out while the PS2 burned everything. Intentionally looking over things that make your argument or point weak means that you really dont have much of a point and you know it.

[Z]

comparing PS3 to past PS systems is helpful. comparing every new system to its predecessor overall is not so helpful. i.e. Rev is doing remarkably well that I could only put it with DS. past Ninty consoles don't stand a chance next to it. by that, it and Cube are doing very different right off the bat.

[Sephiroth_VII]

delete

[frosty]

To be a fair, both PSX and PS2 suffered from supply problems in the first few months, so they have an excuse for their initially low sales. PS3 definitely doesn't.

O RLY? So I guess there were no PS3's going for $2500 on Ebay then.

[Raitei]

This also shows that people buy a PS3 not just for gaming alone, but also as a Blu-ray player, a small media PC, and a device that helps into finding a cure for cancer.

Im sorry, but i don't get how you're reading this from those graphs.
This just shows that so many people bought a ps3, for whatever reason.

[Sephiroth_VII]

O RLY? So I guess there were no PS3's going for $2500 on Ebay then.

True, but not for long. After a few weeks, the internet forums indicate it was possible to walk into a store and buy a PS3. I don't live in the US, so I can't comment on this.

[frosty]

It was a while. I was still having a lot of trouble finding one in my city when I bought mine in February.

[Z]

and the shootings and killings. deja vu?

in any case, sales slowed down now. waiting for the Q2 spring to start off the rest of the cycle. :)

[Sephiroth_VII]

^Hey, like I said, II don't live in the U.S. Also the shootings occurred at launch, when there was a shortage. The thing is that, from what I've heard, it didn't take long before stores were overstocked.

Peace.

[Segitz]

In my area, it is upside down.

PS3s are totally sold out in Leonberg, near Stuttgart (as of two to three weeks ago, wasnt shopping a long time), but Wiis are there in plenty supply.

I just ignore most "sales stats" as of now, but I must admit, it is interesting

[LiquidEagle]

Regardless of numbers, I think it's suffice to say from how things have gone so far and how things are looking that the PS3's best days are ahead of it and as soon as Fall of this year, it's going to have the most well-rounded library and I personally think it has the most compelling lineup by far.

[rpgamer_2k5]

Yes, we do know how that happened, the Gamecube burned out while the PS2 burned everything. Intentionally looking over things that make your argument or point weak means that you really dont have much of a point and you know it. Err...yeah..Mr Psychic. Similar sales velocity as the PS3 even though the platform features limited games, and other excellent points brought up by forward-minded users: high cost and media bombardment must really suggest that the PS3 will go the way of 3DO.

My friend, I don't know how to say this, but what you infer is wishful thinking, and to be honest, I can't change your shallow goals, no I do try, but even a child psychiatrist would opt retreating in a cave if the alternative was to read cavemen posts like yours.

However I can suggest a short-term solution: Voodoo. It may allow you to realize your dreams until PS3 exceeds PS2's sales velocity due to the obvious reasons that has been posted a million times.

Sigh. I hope what I'm trying to convey may pass through that thick skull of yours. But that, also, would be wishful thinking on my behalf. The only pro in this abysmal 'campaign' is modifying my signature just for cases like yourself.

[dendj55]

True, but not for long. After a few weeks, the internet forums indicate it was possible to walk into a store and buy a PS3. I don't live in the US, so I can't comment on this.

I don't think the shortage was more than a month. I bought mine from Best Buy on December 15, 2007 by just walking into the store. That was just less than a month after the launch.

[Xer0]

Err...yeah..Mr Psychic. Similar sales velocity as the PS3 even though the platform features limited games, and other excellent points brought up by forward-minded users: high cost and media bombardment must really suggest that the PS3 will go the way of 3DO.

My friend, I don't know how to say this, but what you infer is wishful thinking, and to be honest, I can't change your shallow goals, no I do try, but even a child psychiatrist would opt retreating in a cave if the alternative was to read cavemen posts like yours.

However I can suggest a short-term solution: Voodoo. It may allow you to realize your dreams until PS3 exceeds PS2's sales velocity due to the obvious reasons that has been posted a million times.

Sigh. I hope what I'm trying to convey may pass through that thick skull of yours. But that, also, would be wishful thinking on my behalf. The only pro in this abysmal 'campaign' is modifying my signature just for cases like yourself.

Excellent point? Like the fact that the PS3 isnt limited by demand? That was an excellent point i agree. And this isnt a PS3 bashing by me, which you for some reason some to think it is, its point out that the author of this graph pointed out that his graph is useless and that looking at these statistics is more bragging rights then actual usefull knowledge. So, once again for the third time let me bring this up.

Yes...we could bother to compare against the other consoles...but why bother since the GAMECUBE would be out pacing the PS2 at this point and we know what happened there!

Gamecube had a higher sale velocity then the PS2, apperantly. And you cant deny that, and i didnt use voodo on that one. Next, the PS2 proceeded to dominate everything. Again no voodo. So it is obvious to infer that the author of this knew that trying to make a logical conclusion just they looking at the sales in the first 4 months to be stupid, as he/she even mentioned it. Thats what i was point out in the simplest way that i could and that is exactly what flew over your head. Then you come back with this post like i went and killed your cat and you are trying to remain civil and be the "good guy". There was no insult thrown at you, just a simple simple simple observation. In the mean time though im going to enjoy my Gamecube with the other 120 some odd million users out there because, you know, sales velocity in the first four months is the end all be all.

[LiquidEagle]

Xer0, it's ridiculous because you're likening the PS3 to Gamecube solely based on sales velocity, and the systems have absolutely nothing else remotely in common when it comes to approach, market, pricing, capabilities, or anything like that.

[Xer0]

Xer0, it's ridiculous because you're likening the PS3 to Gamecube solely based on sales velocity, and the systems have absolutely nothing else remotely in common when it comes to approach, market, pricing, capabilities, or anything like that.

Actually if you take the time to read and understand what i said, i am not linking them together in the least.

[curryking1]

I think it was pretty clear that was your main point though. You did say 'Remember the GC died and the PS2 burned everything' didn't you?

No one is 'not taking it into account,' but these guys are just saying there's a lot more on top of that to consider as well.

[Xer0]

I think it was pretty clear that was your main point though. You did say 'Remember the GC died and the PS2 burned everything' didn't you?

No one is 'not taking it into account,' but these guys are just saying there's a lot more on top of that to consider as well.

The fact that i was making is that the author mentioned it and then proceeded to say that it wasnt worth mentioning because we all know how bad the GC did. The GC was of similar sales velocity to the PS2 and look what happened in the end. So the point was that the author knew and even admited that this was a stupid statistic and that it really doesnt mater. The fact that you are all getting on my case about something so obvious is startling

[rpgamer_2k5]

Xer0, the two consoles are not similar, they have a different profile. The GC didn't have a similar gaming drought and has a very different user base.

The GameCube couldn't replace the PS's market because it had Nintendo-centric application suite. PS2 like PS varies and hence sales velocity remained relatively positive, and the PS3's profile is no different. In fact the velocity is similar despite the fact that PS3 has a software drought, and that demonstrates that the fan base is expecting a software suite akin to the predecessors.

We're seeing a very diverse application suite coming 2007, and hence it isn't 'fanboyish' to even suggest that the velocity is going to increase once the app suite that mirrors the PS (vs. the Xbox-ish one of today). I really don't see you taking that into account, which I did in the central post since games is a driving factor in console sales, period.

[FantasyGhost]

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Often you will hear from gamers from one console group or the other "Your system has no quality games". In the last 6 months this has been true for owners of PS3, we hear it all the time. SPG has set out to investigate these claims.

To attempt impartiality on this topic we have used the ratings of MetaCritic.com. MetaCritic is owned by C|net and only rates games where their exists a minimum of 5 reviews from known, quality review sites. MetaCritic then averages these scores out.

The above chart then dispays the percentage of reviewed games with scores over 80% and under 50% for each console.

Reality Check Consoles (PS3/X360/PS2/Wii):

Of all current consoles the PS3 has the HIGHEST percentage of games rated over 80%.

Of all current consoles the X360 has the LOWEST percentage of games rated under 50%

The Wii has the LOWEST percentage of games over 80% and the MOST under 50% of any console.

Reality Check Handhelds (PSP/DS):

The PSP has the HIGHEST percentage of games over 80% and the LOWEST percentage under 50%

Conclusions:

Consumers are willing to forgo quality games to get a better price. Both the DS and Wii are providing the lowest cost of entry to video gaming but offering the least in terms of game quality vs other consoles.

SPG will check back on this topic from time to time.http://www.sonyprotectiongroup.com/?/content/view/25/1/

It can be moved to general though ;)

[LiquidEagle]

^ I don't even know what to say to that :laugh:

[VG Aficionado]

:shrug:

[curryking1]

They didn't even take into account all the games between 50 and 80%... this article seems kind of... silly to me.

How about taking into account number of games as well? And of course actually displaying the percentage between 50 and 80%, they just took it out, it wouldn't be that difficult to put those two things in.

At least the conclusion isn't bad, price is important. But I'd put number of games as more important over 'lack of quality' as the reason, even if the two might go hand in hand in some way of thinking.

[LaLiLuLeLo]

well you have to consider games rated at 60 and 70 percent can be kind of a wash. Subjectivity, while always present, is definitely more of a factor here. less than 5/10 or more than 8/10 is easy to count because at those scores you can really not only judge fun factor, which is subjective, but you get into issues of raw playability, gameplay flaws, etc, when games are on the lower end of the scale. A game below a 5/10 is usually marred by stupid technical flaws and lack of interesting visual design. Or the gameplay flaws are SO pronounced the it's pretty face is quickly forgotten. So I can appreciate where they're going with this. And PS2 is smack dab in the middle because there were so many games.

Games below a 50% average go beyond taste, and usually just plain stink. Games above 80%, usually more people will like them. You know that much is true.

[FantasyGhost]

I don't think it's silly, because people often seem to say PS3 doesn't have any good AAA titles or whatever.

[Segitz]

And to add to that, you can always count two and two together...

If the PS3s games are rated 35% above 80% and 5% below 50%, then the games in between make out 60%^^

Same goes for the 360, were you come out at about 55% (hard to make out, as those 3D charts eye candy make them... well hard to make out :D)

[curryking1]

well you have to consider games rated at 60 and 70 percent can be kind of a wash. Subjectivity, while always present, is definitely more of a factor here. less than 5/10 or more than 8/10 is easy to count because at those scores you can really not only judge fun factor, which is subjective, but you get into issues of raw playability, gameplay flaws, etc, when games are on the lower end of the scale. A game below a 5/10 is usually marred by stupid technical flaws and lack of interesting visual design. Or the gameplay flaws are SO pronounced the it's pretty face is quickly forgotten. So I can appreciate where they're going with this. And PS2 is smack dab in the middle because there were so many games.

Games below a 50% average go beyond taste, and usually just plain stink. Games above 80%, usually more people will like them. You know that much is true.


Good call lol. I think though it'd also be good to include total number of games, unless if they cite some theory of their own that generally with a lot more games you are bound to find yourself in the middle with percentage of great and sub par titles.