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VG Aficionado
05-20-2007, 10:15 PM
Sony Says PlayStation Unit Losses to Narrow This Year (Update3) (http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601080&sid=aKdOGwxvyPMo&refer=asia)

By Hiroshi Suzuki

May 17 (Bloomberg) -- Sony Corp., the world's largest game console maker, said it will cut PlayStation losses by almost 80 percent this year by raising sales and slashing production costs.

The game unit will post about a 50 billion yen ($414 million) operating loss in the year ending March 2008 and turn profitable the following year, Takao Yuhara, Sony's head of investor relations, told reporters in Tokyo today. The median estimate of five analysts surveyed by Bloomberg projected a deficit of 83 billion yen.

Increased demand for PlayStation 3 may help Chief Executive Officer Howard Stringer meet his goal of generating $5 of profit for every $100 in sales to produce record net income. The console has so far been outsold by Nintendo Co.'s Wii, leaving the company reliant on Bravia flat-screen televisions and Cyber-shot cameras for growth.

``The profit forecast doesn't seem to be farfetched,'' said Masafumi Oshiden, a Tokyo-based fund manager at BlackRock Japan Co., whose parent company holds $1.1 trillion in assets. ``A loss reduction in the game business is possible, even if sales underperform. Televisions, which contributed a great deal to earnings last year, should continue to sell well.''

Shares of Sony climbed 2.6 percent, the biggest increase in a month, to close at 6,630 yen in Tokyo. The stock has gained 30 percent this year, compared with the 1.6 percent advance by the Nikkei 225 Stock Average.


Double Profit

Sony yesterday forecast net income for the year ending March 31, 2008 will more than double to 320 billion yen this fiscal year on sales of Bravia TVs and narrower losses at the game unit.

The full-year forecast doesn't include the expected gain from a planned initial public offering of Sony's financial unit later this year, Yuhara said today. He declined to specify how much the gain from the share sale may be.

The company's 5 percent operating profit margin target compares with the 5.1 percent at Osaka-based Matsushita Electric Industrial Co., the world's largest consumer-electronics maker, and 12.7 percent at Apple Inc., the maker of the iPod music players, in their latest fiscal years.

Margins at the consumer electronics unit, which accounted for 73 percent of total sales last year, will reach the ``higher end of 4 percent,'' Yuhara said. The business had a margin of 2.6 percent in the last fiscal year.

The company will start making liquid-crystal display panels at its newest factory by August, in line with an earlier target of starting production by ``summer,'' Yuhara said.


Cutting Costs

Meeting the games forecast may hinge on lower costs at the PlayStation unit, which missed shipment targets. Sony plans to cut spending on semiconductors, including the Cell chip that runs PlayStation 3, by 13 percent to 130 billion yen this year.

``We will promote production cost cuts in chips and other parts used in the game machine,'' Yuhara said. ``We will ask game software makers to make more games for the PlayStation 3.''

The company expects to ship 11 million PlayStation 3 consoles this fiscal year, double the 5.5 million last year, of which just 3.6 million were sold.

Rival Nintendo Co. forecast sales of 14 million of its Wii consoles, almost triple the 5.84 million units it sold in the year ended March 31. The Wii features a motion-sensor controller that allows a user to play virtual games of tennis and bowling, and costs about $250, half the price of the PlayStation 3.

Production delays for PlayStation 3, caused by parts shortages, left Sony in third place in worldwide sales of the newest generation of consoles behind the Wii and Microsoft Corp.'s Xbox 360.


`Resident Evil'

The company in September cut the retail price of the PlayStation 3 in Japan before sales started. Sony also postponed the launch of the game machine in Europe by four months to March, and cut worldwide shipment targets because of the parts shortages.

Ken Kutaragi, developer of the PlayStation game consoles, will step down in June after setbacks.

Profit from the movie division will probably rise 17 percent to 50 billion yen this fiscal year, boosted by ``Spider-Man 3'' and the third installment of ``Resident Evil'' featuring Milla Jovovich in September, according to estimates given by analysts surveyed by Bloomberg before the earnings announcement.

``Spider-Man 3'' had worldwide sales in its opening weekend of $382 million, shattering the previous mark of $253 million set in 2005 by ``Star Wars: Episode 3 -- Revenge of the Sith.'' International receipts from the movie may reach almost $900 million, said Gitesh Pandya, editor of box-office-tracker Boxofficeguru.com.

``Considering that the movie business is volatile and a recovery of the game business may not be quick, the prospect for next year is still unclear,'' said Yasuhiko Hirakawa, who helps manage the equivalent of $80 billion at DLIBJ Asset Management Co. in Tokyo. ``Sony must map out a plan to boost profit.''

CrumCon
05-20-2007, 10:23 PM
Not a good sign if you ask me.

Diresu
05-20-2007, 10:25 PM
Not a good sign if you ask me.

How is cutting losses not a good sign?

Rockmond
05-20-2007, 10:25 PM
Not a good sign if you ask me.

Then we won't ask you.

deboqimana
05-20-2007, 10:26 PM
no price drop confirmed

VG Aficionado
05-20-2007, 10:28 PM
Not a good sign if you ask me.Seriously, how in the world is this something bad? And why do you keep posting here when you're always pessimistic about everything?

CrumCon
05-20-2007, 10:33 PM
i mean 3rd place in console race and Wii rampaing like crazy. and in the U.S. X360 even outsold ps3 in 2:1 ratio on monthly basis. This is PLAYSTATION we're talking about! we dont want it to fall do we?

i blame sony for this.

if thats a good sign.. then i dont know what to say no more.

VG Aficionado
05-20-2007, 10:35 PM
:duh:

Diresu
05-20-2007, 10:36 PM
2 words. Long-Term.

Kabbage
05-20-2007, 10:37 PM
How is cutting losses not a good sign? It is crumcon... don't even bother yourself.

LiquidEagle
05-20-2007, 10:37 PM
:duh:

QFT.

frosty
05-20-2007, 10:45 PM
Actually, 80% reduction in cost could very easily = a surprisingly large cut in price. They are talking about how much each console costs them as of the end of last year (somewhere in the $250 range lost per console). So, they are talking about being able to shave about $200 off of that cost, which would = only $30-50 loss per console near the end of the year. So, by that point, they would be in perfect striking position to take a $100-150 hit on the retail cost of the unit which still cuts their losses by $50-100 per unit and spurs a massive sales surge over the holiday season (which in turn also boosts software sales which = more losses covered). They know as well as we do that the system will have to shed it's cost sometime this year or very early next year (though it would be stupid of them not to couple one with the holiday season) and I have faith they are working on every possible solution they can think of to make it happen. This is them just making room to cut the price.

CrumCon
05-20-2007, 10:50 PM
$100-150 price cuts after only a year in the market?

doesnt that bring bad image? not so well selling product getting a price cut?

anyway i'll get one by the end of the year if it hits $400

Diresu
05-20-2007, 10:56 PM
$100-150 price cuts after only a year in the market?

doesnt that bring bad image? not so well selling product getting a price cut?

anyway i'll get one by the end of the year if it hits $400

For a console with the price tag that it has, its selling very well. So thats bullshit to begin with. If they cut the price to bring it in line with the 360 the sales surge would be massive. I still stick with my prediction which is that the majority of ps3 sales will happen 3-4 years down the line when its had a few major price cuts.

mario25
05-20-2007, 11:18 PM
$100-150 price cuts after only a year in the market?

doesnt that bring bad image? not so well selling product getting a price cut?

anyway i'll get one by the end of the year if it hits $400

well, sony cut the ps1 price by $100 after only 8 months in the market (I bought mine a week before the price cut :( )....and the ps1 did pretty well if you ask me.

Z
05-20-2007, 11:20 PM
great news! I didn't think they could bring costs down that fast. of course, I don't expect a retail price cut anytime soon, but still.

so PS3 will be profitable starting from next year? that isn't a small feat. I don't know about PSOne, but both PS2 and PSP started to make a profit within a year after launching. PS3 doing it in a few months later than that is nothing short of impressive given its price tag. that and keep in mind that X2 has been out since 2005 and the devision is still not making a profit. of course, software costs will be thrown in there (and the Zune drain in case of the latter). if I am not mistaken, MS just started to make a profit out of the actual console sales, but I could be wrong.

oh, how I wish I could look 4 years into the future. :)

CrumCon
05-20-2007, 11:21 PM
well, sony cut the ps1 price by $100 after only 8 months in the market (I bought mine a week before the price cut :( )....and the ps1 did pretty well if you ask me.


if sony cuts PS3 by $100, the price is still pretty high for a gaming machine. $500 is still alot of money for a gaming system.

by the time sony cuts the price to $500.. Xbox360 would already in the $250-300 pricetag. and Wii... 4maybe $200.

i dont see any advantages in here

Fats
05-20-2007, 11:24 PM
Oh, we'll just leave it at it's original RRP then Crumcon. I mean, who cares about a potential $100 saving. I'm sorry, but you're an idiot and your posts make baby Jesus cry.

venomv
05-21-2007, 02:18 AM
CromCom, you're so frikin hopeless it is funny.......How the heck is Sony cutting costs bad for them, ask MS how well it works to have your console cost the same amount the entire time it is on the market! And it is obvious the price is hurting sales, a $50-100 drop would be good for sales, not to mention as of right now if the PS3 and the 360 were the same price the PS3 would look better from an expense stand-point because people see it as expensive to begain with.......

masonite
05-21-2007, 02:53 AM
Price cuts will depend on the bean counters, the company analysts, and the marketing division.

No price cut means higher profit on consoles, but less sales due to higher price. Price cut means more sales, but less profit on each sale.

The whips will be cracking in the marketing departments...Personally i think there will be a $100-150AUD price cut some time this year, or no price cut at all. Anything less than that simply won't make a difference to sales, and will only serve to reduce profits.

rpgamer_2k5
05-21-2007, 02:13 PM
I'm trying...

CrumCon, Sony loses ~$125 for selling ever PS3 and coming March 80% (~$100) meaning a ~$25 loss per PS3. This means that Sony has a $100 'buffer' between current losses incurred and the future rate. The price dynamic situation can do two ways:

a) Sony decreases price, bring losses closer to $125 till additional price reductions follows.

b) Sony maintains price and loses $25 till additional price reductions follows.

What determines price? Demand. If sales velocity exceeds the PS2's rate during launch once the good games enter then increasing loss in order to decrease price would be very pointless. If sales velocity decrease then its an option.

Personally I feel that sales velocity will exceed expectations for the obvious reasons. :)

jaxmkii
05-21-2007, 03:27 PM
$100-150 price cuts after only a year in the market?

doesnt that bring bad image? not so well selling product getting a price cut?

anyway i'll get one by the end of the year if it hits $400 oh you dont actualy have one?... no wonder you think it sux.