Gran Turismo 5 Prologue

[Fats]

Lmao... Good times.

I noticed that it's going for £60 on Ebay. I love GT, but not that much.

[VG Aficionado]

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d80/userfriendly420/DSC02627.jpg

Prologue and my DS3 all within 24 hours :D :D :D :D :D :D*is jealous*

[yoshaw]

*Jealous square*

[Smokey]

The braking noise has been the same since GT1 :shrug: Shouldn't they renew that?

As for engine noises and those things, I think they shine more when using manual change.

and their sqealing tyres havnt changed & its so annoying

[Sephiroth_VII]

"jealous squared * pi"

[curryking1]

*Looks at red Ferrari...*

*starts crying*

[LaLiLuLeLo]

cockgoblin!

Prologue and my DS3 all within 24 hours :D :D :D :D :D :D

I hate your kind, never come back here.

[user friendly]

:moon:

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[Red_Eyes]

Here are the first day sales of some new game titles released in Japan on December 13, 2007:

1. Gran Turismo 5 Prologue (PS3, Sony) - 50,000
2. Chocobo no Fushigi na Dungeon: Toki Wasure no Meikyuu (Wii, Square Enix) - 30,000
3. Kingdom Under Fire: Circle of Doom (X360, Microsoft) - 8,000
4. NiGHTS Journey of Dreams (Wii, Sega) - 7,000
5. Soul Calibur Legends (Wii, Bandai Namco) - 5,000
6. Kirarin Revolution Tsukutte Misechao! Kime*Kira Stage (NDS, Konami) - 5,000
7. We Love Golf! (Wii, Capcom) - 4,000
8. Shikigami no Shiro 3 (X360, Arc System Works) - 1,500
9. Shikigami no Shiro 3 (Wii, Arc System Works) - 500
http://www.the-magicbox.com/gaming.htm

[VG Aficionado]

Wow, those pics are awesome! It looks better than the demo. And nice first day sales!

[Sephiroth_VII]

The European release can't get here fast enough!

[VG Aficionado]

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Has someone seen my jaw? It has to be somewhere around here.

[Segitz]

From these off screen caps, this game looks... like photorealistic... this is AMAZING

[VG Aficionado]

I'll translate some things for you from this Spanish interview (http://www.meristation.com/v3/des_articulo.php?pic=GEN&id=cw476568836d01b):

In GT and GT2, both for PS1, a designer spent a day to model a car. In GT3 and GT4, for PS2, the same worker spent a month modeling the same care due to the increased amount of polygons. In GT5 for PS3, they require 6 months to do the same job.

We're before something immensely detailed. It's a lot of work. We could consider and I'd like to think Gran Turismo is like the benchmark, the acid test, to measure the limit of each console generation. At this point, I'd like to show the limits of Gran Turismo itself, or else we couldn't call it Gran Turismo. At least I could not. It's a great responsibility.

"Why are you releasing 'Prologue'? Many people don't want to spend their money in what they consider a demo (Note: like there has ever been such a demo with that amount of amazing, amazing content and features.)

Yamauchi: We believe that at our current pace, GT5 will be ready by December 2008. 4 years will have passed since GT4. It's too much time, mostly for the series fan. There are plenty of things left to do. We also have the online features. It's a completely different product compared to GT4. It's way superior in all aspects. We need to test it fully so that it becomes a perfect product. I consider it dangerous, to say the least, to release a game like this one without having subdued it to the toughest quality assurance tests. Also, since it's something so important, I fear of online features failing. That would be a fatal blow. I intend to introduce online features bit by bit. Another reason to release Prologue is the simple fact that it's been too long since GT4. I want to get the user feedback ASAP. And Prologue is a good way to obtain so.


So, when is GT5's launch due? End of 2008?

Yamauchi: Yes, Christmas 2008 is the the planned release date for now. Anyway, it's not final yet. It's been tough to develop Prologue. To get the picture, if my current development team did GT1 again, they would finish it in two weeks. Back then we spent 4 years. It's very hard work.


I see. And the fans also expect that tremendous quality in the new Gran Turismo, right?

Yamauchi: Yes, it's a great responsibility. That's why I want it to be perfect. And that's why I can't tell for sure when it'll be released.


Regarding the vehicles, have they been redesigned completely?

Yamauchi: Completely, from scratch. We have reused absolutely nothing (*emphasis on this*) from previous versions. Everything is new.


[Yamauchi elaborates on how he even wants the back seat interior to be perfect even if the players would rarely see it]


How long did it take to model all the cars?

Yamauchi: A designer spends roughly 6 months in average. 50 cars are 300 months. That's 25 years. The tracks are a lot more work. It's longer than a year each. We have 30 people working on the tracks.


[Yamauchi talks about how PS3 is the system that can provide the absolute best picture and how perfect he wants GT5 to be again, how it'll support Full HD 1080p60, how the players will actually see the very same they'd see if they drove a given car in a given track in real life, etc.]


Regarding realism, when will we see car damage?

Yamauchi: Right now we're testing this. We will see car damage in GT5. There are three problems to solve though. Firstly, some car manufacturers don't care to see damage in their cars but others would never allow that. Some cars will be damaged and others won't, depending on the manufacturer. Secondly, the simulation. In Daytona Speedway, for instance, going slightly sideways when getting out of the banked curve and entering the straight section and hitting slightly the rear part of our car against the sides of the track will make our car become utter junk. Game over. It's a small mistake, but physics calculations tell us we'd undergo a 150 G force. That equals death. The car is literally disintegrated. We do not want that. We do not want to destroy the cars. I don't like that. That's ultrarealistic simulation, but if it happens, the game is over, you lose your car. I'm resisting to accept that kind of effect. Right now we're looking into how to make pure simulation and these kind of situations be compatible with each other. And the third problem, the fact that many driving games out there feature this kind of accidents, but I've never seen one which actually provide something positive or are perfect from a technical standpoint. I've got to think a lot about it yet, but I understand the series supporters do want damage and accidents because, for the better or worse, they're an integral part of reality.


[Yamauchi talks on how they're trying to emulate human behavior for the game AI, and how tough it is to do so.]


Is Sony imposing any restriction or forcing you to do something in particular?

Yamauchi: Just the release date. Till now we had some flexibility in that aspect. I'll tlet you know we're the movie's villains to Sony. But we don't listen to them that much (*laughs*). Fortunately we have quite a lot of independence. For that reason, GT5 won't be out for sale until it's finished according to my criterion. Sony understands I'm a perfectionist and they allow me that. The hardcore fans would notice if something's wrong in the game. They're like me. That's why I want to perfect it to the max. In terms of conceptual aspects or limits, Sony does not interfere a lot, I have a lot of freedom in those regards.


Would you like to take a breath of fresh air and create a new successful series in the videogame world?

Yamauchi: I've wanted to create an RPG since long ago but I don't have the time to do so. (*laughs and remains thoughtful*)


[Yamauchi says that PS3 has the power but it's still expensive. It features Blu-ray for the future, and says he's very patient.]


Excuse me, but are you telling me Gran Turismo 5 is only possible on PS3 at the moment?

Yamauchi: Yes, exactly. On the other hand, Xbox 360 is not a system designed to support Full HD since the beginning. There are very few 1080p60 games on Xbox 360. It seems like a system designed for the inferior 720p. We're talking about significant differences in this very generation of home consoles. Soon enough people will give credit to the strong attractive of Full HD, of the true high resolution. I want to do videogames that take full advantage of each generation's technical abilities.


[Yamauchi says it would be totally frustrating to develop for Wii because of its lack of processing power and that while people, the industry and media say PS3, Wii and 360 are "Next Gen", the only true Next Gen is provided by PS3].


When will we see Gran Turismo Portable?

Yamauchi: We are developing it right now. It'll be released after Gran Turismo 5. We're going to make it a complementary game.


Will you take a rest after GT5's release?

Yamauchi: Due to the online nature of this game, we still need one more year to get it out. We'll progress day by day. The plan is not to start working on GT6 immediately after that. We'll keep adding features or improving things in GT5 taking advantage of the Internet connection. That's why I won't have time to rest. In these 15 years of Gran Turismo I haven't had any holidays.


[The interviewer asks Yamauchi if he spends any night at the studio and he says it's not the case lately but there was a year when he only spent 4 nights at home].

[Yamauchi says that the Japanese videogame industry peaked in the 80's and 90's and that the current game designers aren't open to true innovation, something he hopes will change].

[GTAce]

VG you made my friggin day!

[VG Aficionado]

http://www.tothegame.com/res/game/4404/boxshot_uk_large.jpg

[GTAce]

So hawt me want one. 8(

[curryking1]

Niiiiiceee VG!!! Great translation!

Except one thing...

Yamauchi: Completely, from scratch. We haven't reused absolutely nothing (*emphasis on this*) from previous versions. Everything is new.

One too many negatives here :P

It will be too much waiting to see how damage works out :ohno:

[Sephiroth_VII]

VG, where the hell do you find all that good stuff!? +rep! :cloud9:

[VG Aficionado]

Niiiiiceee VG!!! Great translation!

Except one thing...



One too many negatives here :POooops! Corrected :-p I didn't have time to proofread, and in Spanish it's literally like that. We use way too many redundant negatives.

[LaLiLuLeLo]

LOL, 3 and up.

Suggesting that GT is suitable for children of 3 years of age, makes me laugh.

[VG Aficionado]

LOL, 3 and up.

Suggesting that GT is suitable for children of 3 years of age, makes me laugh.

I suggest you youtube some videos of 3 years old Japanese kids with racing wheels playing GT4 and passing the license tests with perfect scores.

Reposting a bunch of nice stuff for the new page, I hope you don't mind :-p

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Has someone seen my jaw? It has to be somewhere around here.

http://www.tothegame.com/res/game/4404/boxshot_uk_large.jpg

I'll translate some things for you from this Spanish interview (http://www.meristation.com/v3/des_articulo.php?pic=GEN&id=cw476568836d01b):

In GT and GT2, both for PS1, a designer spent a day to model a car. In GT3 and GT4, for PS2, the same worker spent a month modeling the same care due to the increased amount of polygons. In GT5 for PS3, they require 6 months to do the same job.

We're before something immensely detailed. It's a lot of work. We could consider and I'd like to think Gran Turismo is like the benchmark, the acid test, to measure the limit of each console generation. At this point, I'd like to show the limits of Gran Turismo itself, or else we couldn't call it Gran Turismo. At least I could not. It's a great responsibility.

"Why are you releasing 'Prologue'? Many people don't want to spend their money in what they consider a demo (Note: like there has ever been such a demo with that amount of amazing, amazing content and features.)

Yamauchi: We believe that at our current pace, GT5 will be ready by December 2008. 4 years will have passed since GT4. It's too much time, mostly for the series fan. There are plenty of things left to do. We also have the online features. It's a completely different product compared to GT4. It's way superior in all aspects. We need to test it fully so that it becomes a perfect product. I consider it dangerous, to say the least, to release a game like this one without having subdued it to the toughest quality assurance tests. Also, since it's something so important, I fear of online features failing. That would be a fatal blow. I intend to introduce online features bit by bit. Another reason to release Prologue is the simple fact that it's been too long since GT4. I want to get the user feedback ASAP. And Prologue is a good way to obtain so.


So, when is GT5's launch due? End of 2008?

Yamauchi: Yes, Christmas 2008 is the the planned release date for now. Anyway, it's not final yet. It's been tough to develop Prologue. To get the picture, if my current development team did GT1 again, they would finish it in two weeks. Back then we spent 4 years. It's very hard work.


I see. And the fans also expect that tremendous quality in the new Gran Turismo, right?

Yamauchi: Yes, it's a great responsibility. That's why I want it to be perfect. And that's why I can't tell for sure when it'll be released.


Regarding the vehicles, have they been redesigned completely?

Yamauchi: Completely, from scratch. We have reused absolutely nothing (*emphasis on this*) from previous versions. Everything is new.


[Yamauchi elaborates on how he even wants the back seat interior to be perfect even if the players would rarely see it]


How long did it take to model all the cars?

Yamauchi: A designer spends roughly 6 months in average. 50 cars are 300 months. That's 25 years. The tracks are a lot more work. It's longer than a year each. We have 30 people working on the tracks.


[Yamauchi talks about how PS3 is the system that can provide the absolute best picture and how perfect he wants GT5 to be again, how it'll support Full HD 1080p60, how the players will actually see the very same they'd see if they drove a given car in a given track in real life, etc.]


Regarding realism, when will we see car damage?

Yamauchi: Right now we're testing this. We will see car damage in GT5. There are three problems to solve though. Firstly, some car manufacturers don't care to see damage in their cars but others would never allow that. Some cars will be damaged and others won't, depending on the manufacturer. Secondly, the simulation. In Daytona Speedway, for instance, going slightly sideways when getting out of the banked curve and entering the straight section and hitting slightly the rear part of our car against the sides of the track will make our car become utter junk. Game over. It's a small mistake, but physics calculations tell us we'd undergo a 150 G force. That equals death. The car is literally disintegrated. We do not want that. We do not want to destroy the cars. I don't like that. That's ultrarealistic simulation, but if it happens, the game is over, you lose your car. I'm resisting to accept that kind of effect. Right now we're looking into how to make pure simulation and these kind of situations be compatible with each other. And the third problem, the fact that many driving games out there feature this kind of accidents, but I've never seen one which actually provide something positive or are perfect from a technical standpoint. I've got to think a lot about it yet, but I understand the series supporters do want damage and accidents because, for the better or worse, they're an integral part of reality.


[Yamauchi talks on how they're trying to emulate human behavior for the game AI, and how tough it is to do so.]


Is Sony imposing any restriction or forcing you to do something in particular?

Yamauchi: Just the release date. Till now we had some flexibility in that aspect. I'll tlet you know we're the movie's villains to Sony. But we don't listen to them that much (*laughs*). Fortunately we have quite a lot of independence. For that reason, GT5 won't be out for sale until it's finished according to my criterion. Sony understands I'm a perfectionist and they allow me that. The hardcore fans would notice if something's wrong in the game. They're like me. That's why I want to perfect it to the max. In terms of conceptual aspects or limits, Sony does not interfere a lot, I have a lot of freedom in those regards.


Would you like to take a breath of fresh air and create a new successful series in the videogame world?

Yamauchi: I've wanted to create an RPG since long ago but I don't have the time to do so. (*laughs and remains thoughtful*)


[Yamauchi says that PS3 has the power but it's still expensive. It features Blu-ray for the future, and says he's very patient.]


Excuse me, but are you telling me Gran Turismo 5 is only possible on PS3 at the moment?

Yamauchi: Yes, exactly. On the other hand, Xbox 360 is not a system designed to support Full HD since the beginning. There are very few 1080p60 games on Xbox 360. It seems like a system designed for the inferior 720p. We're talking about significant differences in this very generation of home consoles. Soon enough people will give credit to the strong attractive of Full HD, of the true high resolution. I want to do videogames that take full advantage of each generation's technical abilities.


[Yamauchi says it would be totally frustrating to develop for Wii because of its lack of processing power and that while people, the industry and media say PS3, Wii and 360 are "Next Gen", the only true Next Gen is provided by PS3].


When will we see Gran Turismo Portable?

Yamauchi: We are developing it right now. It'll be released after Gran Turismo 5. We're going to make it a complementary game.


Will you take a rest after GT5's release?

Yamauchi: Due to the online nature of this game, we still need one more year to get it out. We'll progress day by day. The plan is not to start working on GT6 immediately after that. We'll keep adding features or improving things in GT5 taking advantage of the Internet connection. That's why I won't have time to rest. In these 15 years of Gran Turismo I haven't had any holidays.


[The interviewer asks Yamauchi if he spends any night at the studio and he says it's not the case lately but there was a year when he only spent 4 nights at home].

[Yamauchi says that the Japanese videogame industry peaked in the 80's and 90's and that the current game designers aren't open to true innovation, something he hopes will change].

[zero 7]

great work vg + rep

[CrumCon]

It looks pretty nice, but too many aliasing.
If even PH cant get rid from them.. i dont think other company could do it. especially 3rd party.

[VG Aficionado]

What a knowledgeable insight. I didn't know Gran Turismo was developed by Polyphony Higital.

[Jay Gee]

Hot Hot images
Those cars are made out of sex polygons. And car damage is finally confirmed. No more gay debate/speculation. Thank goodness.

[satriales]

It looks pretty nice, but too many aliasing.
If even PH cant get rid from them.. i dont think other company could do it. especially 3rd party.

The aliasing seems to be down to the TV others have posted pics that are almost jag-free.

[user friendly]

Rehosted some off screen pics that I took.

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[Fats]

Pornographic.

[VG Aficionado]

That's way too sexy! Ban him!

[BruceWayneIII]

Someone please think about the kids in here, for crying out loud!

[GTAce]

:wank: ing out LOUD!

[fortieTHief]

3/08...PAL version...:heybaby:

[Nameless]

Dammit you guys are making me consider importing the JP version instead of waiting until March...

[julps31]

WOW!! :drool: :wank: :shocked:

[Chrome]

After playing GT5:P It's got me feeling good again about driving games, the weight of the cars with the G25 Wheel is uncanny and the cockpit view conveys the best sense of dept on any game I've played including the PC Sim games.

I'm loving this game so much so I'm trying to secure a GT Cockpit without the Screen, my Christmas would be complete.

GT5:P and Uncharted are one of the most fun games I've played in years.

[yoshaw]

:drool:

Autopornography should be banned!!!!!!

[Chrome]

Quick tip: The Medals are tough with the pad (could be down to the assists) I found the wheel alot faster on lap times.

Roll on Dec. 25th update.

[VG Aficionado]

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[VG Aficionado]

Well, I'm going to have to post all that again for the next page... :-p

[VG Aficionado]

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I just can't believe these are pics taken directly from a HDTV... how come they look flawless? There's no aliasing at all!

[BruceWayneIII]

Oh wow, they look good.

[Theo]

Oh wow, they look good.

They look insane to me LOL! Seriously, way back in the days of pure speculation about ps3, I always tried to get a picture in my head of how far PD will be able to push the car models, but this is more than I expected. I really feel this game really shows the ps3 and what can be achieved with it.

@ VG: Thanks for the interview and pictures man! As you know, the game is said to run at native 1080p and if those pictures are taken form a good 1080p screen it could be the answer for no aliasing being present I believe...

[Killing Moon]

Those cars are made out of sex polygons. And car damage is finally confirmed. No more gay debate/speculation. Thank goodness.

Sort of. According to his own words, he's still unsure of how to accomplish it. So he essentially contradicts himself, getting people excited.

Regarding realism, when will we see car damage?

Yamauchi: Right now we're testing this. We will see car damage in GT5. There are three problems to solve though. Firstly, some car manufacturers don't care to see damage in their cars but others would never allow that. Some cars will be damaged and others won't, depending on the manufacturer. Secondly, the simulation. In Daytona Speedway, for instance, going slightly sideways when getting out of the banked curve and entering the straight section and hitting slightly the rear part of our car against the sides of the track will make our car become utter junk. Game over. It's a small mistake, but physics calculations tell us we'd undergo a 150 G force. That equals death. The car is literally disintegrated. We do not want that. We do not want to destroy the cars. I don't like that. That's ultrarealistic simulation, but if it happens, the game is over, you lose your car. I'm resisting to accept that kind of effect. Right now we're looking into how to make pure simulation and these kind of situations be compatible with each other. And the third problem, the fact that many driving games out there feature this kind of accidents, but I've never seen one which actually provide something positive or are perfect from a technical standpoint. I've got to think a lot about it yet, but I understand the series supporters do want damage and accidents because, for the better or worse, they're an integral part of reality.

Proven twice bullshit rhetoric.

1- other games have provided extensive damage models for the same vehicles within his own current game. From a few doing it lightly, to heavily realized in others. I'm surprised he's still using this tired excuse, but of course everyone is eating it up anyway.

2- worse has been done in film with the ACTUAL cars, not virtual.



It's cute and all that he uses the word "perfect" every so often to create some nice falsehood quality for his title. However, he's done this with EVERY interview for EACH game and none have proven to be perfect from a "technical standpoint" within any serious level.

KY, people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

So with that said, this is a nice interview, but as usual, a full bag of hot-aired bullshit.



But hey, at least the game LOOKS nice.



unfuckingbelieveable

[julps31]

Lol...^ Keep trying man. The ground is blurred in half the pics. Not to mention it looks fine in the pics where its not blurred. Amazing pics btw Vg...

[GTAce]

http://www.watch.impress.co.jp/game/docs/20071019/gt5p08.jpg

Yeah REALLY bad ground textures.

Nice pics VG whats teh source?

[CrumCon]

Lol...^ Keep trying man. The ground is blurred in half the pics. Not to mention it looks fine in the pics where its not blurred. Amazing pics btw Vg...

wy dont you take a look at the pics that's not been blurred.
You could clearly see flat ground texture. really ugly. Cause everything looks great or even excellent, especially the car. But when ground texture is showed it looks damn ugly.

especially the grass that is.


GTAce, you mean this?

http://ps3media.ign.com/ps3/image/article/813/813395/gran-turismo-5-images-20070816051501369.jpg

[julps31]

Eh...looks fine to me. :shrug: But if you say so. :dur:

[GTAce]

No i mean more this:
http://www.freeki.es/videos/Gran%20Turismo%205%20Prologue_288.jpg
http://images.worldcarfans.com/articles/2007/9/20/9070920.006/9070920.006.1M.jpg
http://nkm.balsas.lt/files/images/Gran%20Turismo%205%20Prologue.jpg
And thats not even at the original resolution.

EDIT: And dont forget that the grass moves when you drive by.

[GTAce]

No theyre not, it looks like that on the demo i can play on my PS3 and it looks like that in every video you can watch on all the gaming sites out there.

EDIT: B0XfzluzaY4
God i love this video....

[VideoGame mania]

CrumCon, why don't you visit N64 and Dreamcast forums, you're in the future now.
The year is 2007, get back to the past.

[GTAce]

You mean like the flat flowers and the flat grass that moves when a car drives by?
Go to www.gamersyde.com and download the HD version of an Eiger vid and you will see what i mean and why i even argue with something like you?

At least i had a reason to post that great screens and video. :laugh:
Damn i will love the Eiger track i know it, i liked it in GTHD Concept but it was to small, this problem is now gone, so cant wait.

[julps31]

look at the grass man.. its not even grass.. its just a flat soft texture. It even remind me of N64 and Dreamcast.Well it IS a video game lol. You can't really expect a ground texture in a video game to not be flat. In a CG movie? Yes. Video game? No.

[Diresu]

You know...i don't like racing games but ima get this just to run a replay on my TV as a "screen saver" so I can make jaws drop when people walk into my room and look at the tv.

[Killing Moon]

Uh…as far as the ground textures being blurry and flat, isn’t that just a simple byproduct of using motion blur? Why is this even an argument? The game obviously doesn’t have any serious flaws, other than antialiasing.

Of all the things to pick at about the game, visuals wouldn’t be one of them.

[Matt]

look at the grass man.. its not even grass.. its just a flat soft texture.

And everything else is a bunch of polygons.

It's a game FFS, stop being so damn critical of the tiniest details. Apart from when your looking at these pics, who's gonna notice the texture of the grass when you're driving past it at 150mph or whatever.

[Sephiroth_VII]

thanks for the video, that confirms the flat soft ground texture texture
You saw that from a youtube video?

Good eyes! :thumbl:
And everything else is a bunch of polygons.

It's a game FFS, stop being so damn critical of the tiniest details. Apart from when your looking at these pics, who's gonna notice the texture of the grass when you're driving past it at 150mph or whatever.

When even you think the complaint i bullshit, it really must be... Come on, crumcon. Leave this place alone and go get a life or something.

[cliffbo]

wy dont you take a look at the pics that's not been blurred.
You could clearly see flat ground texture. really ugly. Cause everything looks great or even excellent, especially the car. But when ground texture is showed it looks damn ugly.

especially the grass that is.


GTAce, you mean this?

http://ps3media.ign.com/ps3/image/article/813/813395/gran-turismo-5-images-20070816051501369.jpg

the day we get bump mapping on each individual piece of grit will be the day we get a holodeck! you ask too much

[cliffbo]

Uh…as far as the ground textures being blurry and flat, isn’t that just a simple byproduct of using motion blur? Why is this even an argument? The game obviously doesn’t have any serious flaws, other than antialiasing.

Of all the things to pick at about the game, visuals wouldn’t be one of them.

i've heard a few people mention Antialiasing... why? it looks like the real thing

[GTAce]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v324/PmaFaultier/IMG_1758.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v324/PmaFaultier/IMG_1761.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v324/PmaFaultier/IMG_1762.jpg
Thanks to Faultier from www.gtrp.de :thumbl:

[Matt]

Mmmmmmmm R8, *drools excessively*

[VG Aficionado]

Thanks to Faultier from www.gtrp.de :thumbl:WHAT??? I guess that's the photo mode, but it's absolutely incredible.

Cliffbo, ignore CrumCon, he's a troll.

[cliffbo]

WHAT??? I guess that's the photo mode, but it's absolutely incredible.

Cliffbo, ignore CrumCon, he's a troll.

no, i won't give up on him yet. he was never this bad and i want to know why he has gone so so negative. the thing is, when he was negative before, i could actually see what he meant (even though i thought it was picky) but now, he's saying stuff i know he knows is nonsense. same PC, new user?

[Diresu]

no, i won't give up on him yet. he was never this bad and i want to know why he has gone so so negative. the thing is, when he was negative before, i could actually see what he meant (even though i thought it was picky) but now, he's saying stuff i know he knows is nonsense. same PC, new user?

Microsoft turned him Emo.

[VG Aficionado]

same PC, new user?

Same PC, same user - even more ignorant and stupid than before he was banned :duh: You're wasting your time trying to figure out a troll.

[Killing Moon]

i've heard a few people mention Antialiasing... why? it looks like the real thing

Well the aliasing problems that the game has are seen IN PERSON, not through pics taken from a hand cam or from photo mode. Other than the Suzuka Circuit not being particularly pleasing to the eye (and still using some PS2 assets from earlier complaints), it’s the only severe graphical flaw of the game.

I see it a lot too though.
Real life doesn't look jaggie, dude. LOL What the hell.

[cliffbo]

Real life doesn't look jaggie, dude. LOL What the hell.

your kidding me right... shit i think i need glasses

[Insane Metal]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v324/PmaFaultier/IMG_1758.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v324/PmaFaultier/IMG_1761.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v324/PmaFaultier/IMG_1762.jpg
Thanks to Faultier from www.gtrp.de :thumbl:

What.

That is real, right?

[GTAce]

Its the real GT5P yes.

[VG Aficionado]

^Haha, indeed.

[Zer0-Sum]

Man o man, I have checked out all the awesome pics that you guys have posted, more than I have seen of this game anywhere. Man it makes me drool! I have not been paying a whole lot of attention to the world of video games. This game look amazing. i am happy to hear that some level of damage is being implemented, even though it is be limited by the car manufactures. Damn them for being so conceited! Not like we can't see their precious cars being busted up on any crash test. It is ridiculous to say the least.

Any word on the AI in the game? It has been pretty slow/dumb in the past and I hope dearly that they made it much more intelligent. Well, at least as intelligent as computer driven AI can be.

Are those pics above in game or something else? They are freaking amazing!!!

[Insane Metal]

Its the real GT5P yes.

WHAT ?????????? NO WAY. NO FUCKING WAY.


Prove me that! O___O

Photo mode??? Even if it is photo mode I still can´t believe, that looks real!!!!

[GTAce]

Faultier from gtrp.de made them with a digicam because no one has seen the actual photomode.
Its one of the locations were you can put your car in for mypage etc.

[Chrome]

http://generationdreamteam.free.fr/Quizz.html

Excellent GT5 vs Real Life Quiz

My score was very poor :P

[Zer0-Sum]

So then it is Photo mode then? Those pics are mind blowing! :wtf:

[GTAce]

Its all rendered in real time but yeah you could say its photomode.
In the scene from the first pic are some awesome environment things like butterflys or the grass movement.

[Zer0-Sum]

http://generationdreamteam.free.fr/Quizz.html

Excellent GT5 vs Real Life Quiz

My score was very poor :P

I got 10 pics. It is crazy looking. I was sure I got them all wrong. Honestly, I think several were just lucky guesses!

[GTAce]

Lol yeah we had that quiz for a time ago, i got all but i think thats because i saw all of those screenshots before.

[GTShotoKen]

http://generationdreamteam.free.fr/Quizz.html

Excellent GT5 vs Real Life Quiz

My score was very poor :P

The problem with that quiz is that there are very obvious features in GT5 that kind of give each pic away (not to mention the few that still had the GT trademark information on the bottom...).

I give the GT5 team props though for forcing me to look closely at them to tell the difference. ;)

[LaLiLuLeLo]

For my next trick, dumb posts will be deleted.

SHAZAAM!

[venomv]

The quizz had 14 pics of GT5 and one picture of Formula One CE. You found 9 pics !

[evillion]

Its all rendered in real time but yeah you could say its photomode.
In the scene from the first pic are some awesome environment things like butterflys or the grass movement.
looks insanely real. i just hope there'll be a track like this in the final gt5. always love the forest and jungle setting like those Car ads.

[wotter]

New trailer of GT5:Prologue:
http://www.gran-turismo.com/jp/movie/d1543.html

o_O

[VG Aficionado]

I'll download the 720p WMV version and put it in my PS3 :-p Unless there's a 1080p version in one of the stores.

[jaxmkii]

For my next trick, dumb posts will be deleted.

SHAZAAM!
wow cool dot it again!

[Killing Moon]

looks insanely real. i just hope there'll be a track like this in the final gt5. always love the forest and jungle setting like those Car ads.

Those are just static environments setup for photo mode. They had plenty of them in GT4 and they looked nearly as detailed. However, they're not actual racing courses.

[user friendly]

No other racing game to date can match PD's car models. The AA isn't very bad at all, it seems worse on other tv's but is super clean on mine.



Check out the comparison to real life:

http://i14.tinypic.com/80zevcg.gif

Great shadow detail, even when compressed. (credit to nofi on GAF)

[LaLiLuLeLo]

Which one....which one is which. OH. The one with the race time on it. Damn.

[Jay Gee]

I was having trouble differentiating between the two as well.

[nayrk]

That is pretty wicked. :-D

I just dled the GT HD demo and even my fiance wants to get this asap

[GTAce]

http://xs222.xs.to/xs222/07514/DSC04881.JPG.xs.jpg (http://xs.to/xs.php?h=xs222&d=07514&f=DSC04881.JPG)
http://xs222.xs.to/xs222/07514/DSC04892.JPG.xs.jpg (http://xs.to/xs.php?h=xs222&d=07514&f=DSC04892.JPG)
http://xs222.xs.to/xs222/07514/DSC04893.JPG.xs.jpg (http://xs.to/xs.php?h=xs222&d=07514&f=DSC04893.JPG)
Thanks to motobikemax from www.gtrp.de

GranTurismoTV: Weihnachtsgruß der Entwickler

20.12.07 - Polyphony Digital bietet für Gran Turismo 5 Prologue einen Weihnachtsgruß ab dem 21.12.07 via GranTurismoTV an, der auch zum 10-jährigen Jubiläum der Serie erscheint. Es handelt sich um Szenen aus der Stadt Bad Neuenahr, die weihnachtlich dekoriert ist.

Polyphony Digital will offer a special christmasgreeting via GT.TV at the 21th this month, its also Gran Turismos 10th birthday.
The greeting is the Bad Neuenahr scenery from for example the MyPage stuff with a christmas decoration.
http://www.gfdata.de/archiv12-2007-gamefront/grantv.jpg
www.gamefront.de

The place in Bad Neuenahr-Ahrweiler in Google Earth (its only ca 13,5 miles away from the place where i live):
http://xs222.xs.to/xs222/07514/AhrweilerGE.gif.xs.jpg (http://xs.to/xs.php?h=xs222&d=07514&f=AhrweilerGE.gif)

[Zer0-Sum]

Why can't time pass faster so I play this game sooooooonnnnneeerrrr!!!!!! AHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!

[VonGak]

Which one....which one is which. OH. The one with the race time on it. Damn.

LOL, dunno if you were joking but those were my exact thoughts when first looking at the comparison gif.

[GTAce]

Why can't time pass faster so I play this game sooooooonnnnneeerrrr!!!!!! AHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!

I call this game Gran Turismo 5: PR0Nogue btw.

[Zer0-Sum]

I call this game Gran Turismo 5: PR0Nogue btw.


ROFL!!!!! :drool::rockon::hitit::quagmire::wank:

[Gummy]

http://generationdreamteam.free.fr/Quizz.html

Excellent GT5 vs Real Life Quiz

My score was very poor :P
Hahah, 11 out of 14.
Some are pretty hard to tell.

[Sephiroth_VII]

...Gummy?

[Gummy]

What?

[Sephiroth_VII]

Nice :thumbl:

[GTAce]

Notice of periodic maintenance

Dec 18, 2007

Periodic maintenance of the online service of “Gran Turismo 5 Prologue” will be performed from 9am to midday on Thursday every week.

The following online services cannot be used during maintenance.

- Display and playback of some programs in GT-TV
- News
- Dealer News
- The display of information in My Page (clock/calendar/maps/weather)
- The display of motor sports-related news in My Page

Note: Menu items apart from those listed above do not use the network and so can be used as normal.
Note: The range of services that are affected may change due to future updates.
Note: The maintenance time may be slightly earlier or later than the times listed.
http://www.gran-turismo.com/en/gt5p/news/d1560.html

Because it effects every coming thursday i think i should post it.

[VonGak]

http://www.gran-turismo.com/en/gt5p/news/d1560.html

Because it effects every coming thursday i think i should post it.

:thumbl: Another sign (I CHOSE TO SEE IT AS A SIGN) that GT5 will be the only GT title on PS3 but with running updates like cars, tracks, events, event types and things like weather.

The ultimate car lover game

[Matt]

Wow. If they updated the game with new cars and tracks, you'd never need another racing game! (unless there is a GT6 :P)

[cliffbo]

perhaps the idea is to constantly update the game until it's complete and then sell that version on a Blu-ray disc later on

[cliffbo]

seasonal greetings:

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/29181.html?type=wmv

[Segitz]

:thumbl: Another sign (I CHOSE TO SEE IT AS A SIGN) that GT5 will be the only GT title on PS3 but with running updates like cars, tracks, events, event types and things like weather.

The ultimate car lover game

I think, that's about it, really! I mean, it is not "the racing game there is", but it is just... there's something about GT, that I just love above anything else, that makes me forget about missing damage and horrible AI.

GT has this "feeling" about it, that they really cared about the cars (albeit not all cars feeling really real^^)

(Sorry, again, I am quite drunk^^)

[julps31]

I think, that's about it, really! I mean, it is not "the racing game there is", but it is just... there's something about GT, that I just love above anything else, that makes me forget about missing damage and horrible AI.

GT has this "feeling" about it, that they really cared about the cars (albeit not all cars feeling really real^^)

(Sorry, again, I am quite drunk^^)Lol...^ But I agree about something being special about GT. Shit...the time they took to release the album shows you they're extremely dedicated to releasing a quality product.

[Diresu]

Woot. My friend just got to Japan today and he is gonna pickup GT5 Prologue and a Dual Shock 3 for me >.<

[GTAce]

seasonal greetings:

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/29181.html?type=wmv

Great and i have the feelin Yamauchi likes Bad Neuenahr. lol

[frosty]

I have the final answer to their issues that they are having with putting in damage modeling. The same answer I had for Evolution Studios when they were debating whether or not to allow sixaxis steering in Motorstorm (and it worked out well for them... thanks simon...assuming you listened to those e-mails!)... Options, options, options!!!!

A arcade mode, with no damage modelling, a simulation mode, with limited damage modelling, and a full sim mode with full damage modelling (meaning you bump the car in the wrong way, race is over). The latter 2 would also only be limited to the cars they were allowed to damage.

[GTAce]

Lol sorry frosty but i think thats the most obvious solution.
Even in Forza 1 you could change the damage modeling pretty similiar.
It would be even more easier when you could just switch it on, off or limited for every race and when you turn it off you get less A-Spec points in your profile (which is also online so pretty similar to an achievement system).

[PUNK em 733]

*CROSSES FINGERS*


I hope they get the ZR-1 in there.

[Smokey]

*CROSSES FINGERS*


I hope they get Damage in there.

[GTAce]

gtrp.de "Showroom" thread (http://www.gtrp.de/forums/showthread.php?p=1040714#post1040714)
Pics from some people mostly taken with a digicam or handycamera.
As attachement posted pics can only be enlarged when youre registred there unfortunatly.
But the quality from most pics is not extremly good so the thumbnails are enough.

[VG Aficionado]

Awesome as usual :)

[Segitz]

gtrp.de "Showroom" thread (http://www.gtrp.de/forums/showthread.php?p=1040714#post1040714)
Pics from some people mostly taken with a digicam or handycamera.
As attachement posted pics can only be enlarged when youre registred there unfortunatly.
But the quality from most pics is not extremly good so the thumbnails are enough.

There's no such thing as a Handy, as we know it in Germany^^ (it's a mobile or cellphone^^)... God, I hate German "neologism" :D

[GTAce]

Pshhh i want to globalize this word.... :look:

[cliffbo]

Nissan turns Gran Turismo GT-R into the real thing
Nissan GT-R
By Bob English
Despite all the hype, Nissan’s new legend-brought-to-life GT-R turns out to be just your every-day, every-man’s supercar.

http://stb.msn.com/i/A7/77E8BFB66F974DAEE6CE6B90885730.jpg

SENDAI, Japan - The Nissan GT-R name may have acquired mythical status among the fast car cognoscenti, not to mention a generation of video gamers, but in reality you can jump into this latest example, fire it up, and drive it docilely down to the Quickie Mart for a slushy, or your favourite corner kiosk for makisushi, in rain or sleet or snow or dark of night.
Nissan GT-R
Nissan GT-R - Click to see the complete gallery (photo: Bob English)

But then again, if you happen to be in the neighbourhood, and a pretty good shoe, you could also take it for a spin around the Nürburgring's Nordschleife circuit in seven minutes and 38 seconds. Which would leave the driver's of any SLR McLarens or Porsche 911 GT2s you encountered with nothing to remember you by but the images of those four round taillights - so familiar to Gran Turismo video racers - burned into their retinas.

"Our objective was to develop a new type of supercar," says chief engineer Kazutoshi Mizuno, of the GT-R. With its 480-horsepower, twin-turbo V6, its rear-mounted six-speed transaxle-type gearbox and all-wheel-drive system, it launches like a missile to 100 km/h in 3.6 seconds. And with a drag coefficient of just 0.27, the GT-R can slice through the air at 300 km/h plus. But it also offers every-day practicality.
It’s time to get in line

The GT-R is on sale now in Japan, but Canadians will have to wait until February to ogle it at Toronto's Canadian International Auto Show. The on-sale date is scheduled for June, with a price tag of about $82,000 (the only option is a $3,000 hand-polished silver paint job). That's about what Porsche wants for a 295-hp Cayman S, just shy of $10,000 less than a 505-hp Corvette Z06, and almost $60,000 less than a 420-hp Audi R8. Which does make the GT-R a sort of econo-supercar...

Get in line fast if you want one though; Nissan Canada product planner Brian Murphy says we're only getting 125, and the U.S. 1,500. Nissan only plans to build 12,000 a year.
A GT-R History Lesson

Before we get deeper into the new GT-R, let's look at the history behind this little known in North America model.
Nissan GT-R
Nissan GT-R - Click to see the complete gallery (photo: Bob English)

Now called simply the Nissan GT-R, this model was originally part of Nissan's Skyline line-up, sold exclusively in Japan. The original acquired its mythical status by dominating on the race track and later versions became familiar to millions through Sony's legendary Gran Turismo video driving games.

The first Skyline was produced by the Prince Motor Company in 1957. It was taken over by Nissan in the 1960s. Skylines were typically stolid work-a-day designs up until 1961 when the 94-hp Sport BLRA 3-Series, designed by Italy's Michelotti was introduced. It was followed in 1964 by the Skyline 2000 GT which was originally developed for racing, but later became a production model.

The first Skyline to carry the GT-R (for Grand Turismo Racer) designation arrived in 1969 as a four-door sedan, followed by coupes in 1971. It was powered by a 160-hp, 2.0-litre six. It was dropped in 1973 and didn't reappear until 1989, promptly resuming the legend building process with a new generation of drivers and video virtual racers.

A new kind of supercar
Mizuno says supercars have traditionally been aimed at drivers with advanced skills. "But our new multi-performance supercar can be driven fast and skilfully by just about anybody in just about any road conditions."
Nissan GT-R
Nissan GT-R - Click to see the complete gallery (photo: Nissan)

Which is pretty much true, as I discovered at the Sendai Highlands circuit, north of Tokyo.

The GT-R is an unbelievably quick, fast and competent car that I found I could fling around the winter-cold tarmac of the tight and twisty Sendai circuit at the ragged edge limits of control with little drama - thanks to my consummate skill, of course, but also the AWD system and a fully-functional suite of electronic driving aids. But it's also a car that, as an hour and a half drive through the countryside revealed, is perfectly liveable on the road.

Room for two - plus maybe the kiddies
At 4655 mm, the GT-R is considerably longer than a 911's 4461 mm but, while it's called a 2+2, fitting two in the back isn't really a practical proposition. There's a generous amount of luggage space in the chunky tail section, though.
Nissan GT-R
Nissan GT-R - Click to see the complete gallery (photo: Nissan)

The cockpit isn't particularly roomy either, although certainly not cramped. North American models will get seats with broader squabs than the ones on the right-hand drive models I drove. Analogue instruments, with a large centre-mounted tachometer, are bracketed by a small-diameter, leather-wrapped wheel with large, fixed, gearshift paddles behind.

But Nissan turned to PlayStation for design help with the graphics in the multifunction display that provides engine operation readouts, plus driving performance data on g-forces, steering angle, brake force, acceleration, speed etc. A row of "set-up" switches allow you to choose suspension settings, transmission shift mapping and alter the vehicle dynamics system programming - just like in the Gran Turismo game.

Comfort is the setting of choice for road driving, with Sport very stiff and R-mode best reserved for the track A little road noise intrudes, but not enough to spoil your enjoyment of the superb Bose audio system. A navigation system and all the usual comfort and safety features are included.

Clever-tech/high-tech
The GT-R isn't perhaps as exotic as some of its much pricier rivals, but it is a very clever design, built around a new 'front-midship' platform constructed from carbon fibre, aluminium castings and lightweight steel that locates the engine well back and balances it with a rear-mounted transaxle. Its 3.8-litre, VR38 twin-cam V-6 (assembled by individual Takumis, or craftsmen) relies on twin turbochargers to make its 480 horsepower at 6,400 rpm and maximum torque of 435 lb-ft that's available between 3,200 rpm and 5,200 rpm.
Nissan GT-R
Nissan GT-R - Click to see the complete gallery (photo: Bob English)

If you're wondering why Nissan didn't screw the boost up a bit and join the 500 horsepower club, the answer is: wait for the Spec V version rumoured for 2010...

The complex transaxle unit contains the all-wheel-drive transfer case, twin-clutch six-speed gearbox and final drive. This gearbox can be left in "auto" mode for around town driving - where it's a bit clunky at times - but the manual paddle mode generates shifts that take just 0.2 second. Downshifts are accompanied by a rev-matching blip of the throttle.

The ATTESA ET-S AWD system can transfer up to 50 per cent of power to the front wheels and works with the dynamics control systems to promote overall stability. Nissan sourced the brakes from Brembo and they do an amazing job of dragging its hefty 1740 kg to a stop. Front suspension is by double wishbones with a rear multi-link system. Shocks are electronically-controlled Bilstein DampTronics and tires P255/40ZRF20 front/P285/35ZF20 rear. Steering is electric, with variable power assist that muscles up nicely at speed.

Ready when you are
After all this is bolted together at Nissan's Tochigi plant every GT-R undergoes a carefully scripted 20 minute break-in routine to bed in the suspension, clutch and brakes - by a guy wearing bright red Nismo racing boots.

The finale to his performance is two laps of the 1.6 mile circuit with the throttle pinned and the brakes full on. When the rotors are glowing - it's done.
PREVIEW SUMMARY
Nissan GT-R

Here are the salient points and overall rating of this new model, as established by our reviewer:
Overall rating: 9.0 / 10

Pros
Superb acceleration and braking
Highly competent and safe handling
Comfortably liveable on a day-to-day basis

Cons
Noticeable level of road noise
It's a little on the heavy side

http://en.autos.sympatico.msn.ca/guides_and_advice/article.aspx?cp-documentid=5841597

[PSXBatou]

80k? I'll take the Porsche.....

Its a nice looking car and has some impressive numbers behind it but paying 80k for a Nissan is kinda like buying that 100k VW, a bit overpriced for what you get imo.

[yoshaw]

^Agreed

[joe]

80k? I'll take the Porsche.....

Its a nice looking car and has some impressive numbers behind it but paying 80k for a Nissan is kinda like buying that 100k VW, a bit overpriced for what you get imo.

http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Features/articleId=123940
... think again !!

[GTAce]

You can take the Porsche.
I take the R35 or a Z06... no the GT-R because it has the Skyline flair. lol

[yoshaw]

^ooohhh(after looking at comparison link)

One Nissan GT-R to go, please.

[VG Aficionado]

For those of you who have GT5P, the online mode is available now.

[Segitz]

For those of you who have GT5P, the online mode is available now.

But, I don't have it, and since I don't have it, nobody else should be able to play it!!!

Where's my christmas present from you? An import BD with GT5P on it!!!

[Passive]

haha! i has it ^^ gonna give the online a whirl now :D

[Sephiroth_VII]

I think I'll go to AUS and give my shotgun a whirl :realmad:

[Smokey]

you import it passive?

[Fats]

:)

http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x204/RDK333/545678946_Gran_Turismo5P.jpg

[masteratt]

I was drinking coke while loading this thread and froze in motion for a second after I saw that pic.

Now I got coke drooling down my chin.

What an amazing AMAAAAAAAAAZING screenshot.
Wow.

I bet you are happy you stuck with the PS huh Fats? :p

[Raitei]

god damn sexy

[Fats]

That shot is probably fake peeps, looks nice though. :)

[Raitei]

That shot is probably real peeps, real like a supermodels boobs

[GTAce]

:laugh: Yes this is a fake.

[Segitz]

:laugh: Yes this is a fake.

Yeah, the F1 car is completely mirrored :D

[julps31]

:)

http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x204/RDK333/545678946_Gran_Turismo5P.jpgTalk about a unbalanced race. I wonder who'd win. :-p

[LaLiLuLeLo]

That's like going up to a stroller and punching a baby.

[julps31]

Lmao... :lol:

[PSXBatou]

I got a laugh out of this commercial for GT5

http://youtube.com/watch?v=NoNANK5EWNU

[Sephiroth_VII]

If only it was real :cloud9:

[Smokey]

Originally posted by Sephiroth_VII
No, it's also in English, if you own an EU/US PS3.
is there a way to find out for sure?

passive?? anyone??

[GTAce]

Its in japanese neverthless which PS3 you have.

[Smokey]

so it dont come with english as an optinal language? :( thats gonna make it difficult

[Sephiroth_VII]

Yeah, I misunderstood the guy I talked with about it. Sorry for getting your hopes up, guys :(

The main menu and TV submenu are both in English, though.

[Smokey]

what about menus to go online & adjust ya cars & such?

[jaxmkii]

its all trees and houses... i get the feeling im missing out on alot of stuff just cause i dont know japanise.

the game still rocks though

[Smokey]

but is it easy to find 'online' section or not :(

[zero 7]

but is it easy to find 'online' section or not :(

you have to download the online patch just dl the gt tv patc and it includes the online mode the opttions are all displayed with icons on the front page

[zero 7]

stuck on the a class mission where you have to get 1st in 1 lap at suzuka in a skyline gtr it's frustrating the hell out of me has any one here done it if so how ?

[Smokey]

ya sorry i didnt explain myself. where it says online in actual game (as i dont have it yet as me & mate are working out whether its worth the bother if we cant understand shit) is it in english or Japanese?

[jaxmkii]

^ its understandable. you can make sence of things if your used to GT

its a mix of japanise and english.

its a must buy

[Chrome]

ya sorry i didnt explain myself. where it says online in actual game (as i dont have it yet as me & mate are working out whether its worth the bother if we cant understand shit) is it in english or Japanese?


Its really not too hard, I personally just stumbled through the text but there are sites that make everything much easier.

Various explanations.

http://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?p=2870005#post2870005

http://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?p=2870018#post2870018

[Leedogg]

http://www.ebgames.com/product.asp?product%5Fid=T000334

$59.99 is kinda expensive for it, but I'm still getting it.

[GTAce]

It seems like theres going to be an update.
There are news about tuned GT-R's from several manufactours and the Tokyo Auto Salon is soon with unveiling of the GT-R race car.

[Smokey]

i think its on its way now :)

[Garfunkel]

Anyone want my sister for their copy of GT5P? I'll even toss in a brother if that will sweeten the deal?

[Segitz]

Anyone want my sister for their copy of GT5P? I'll even toss in a brother if that will sweeten the deal?

Pics or it won't happen^^

[Sephiroth_VII]

I've always wanted a little sister(imouto-chara!), but you can keep your brother. Should we arrange the exchange via PMs?

[Garfunkel]

Sure, i will tie her up and place her in a plastic box with airholes, i will leave her under the north end of the closest Denmarkian bridge to your house, leave the game on the south end in the small black safe. The code is 548-548-1337donkeysex

[VG Aficionado]

:look:

[Sephiroth_VII]

Done.

Thanks for the kid, she made good eggs for me this morning.
Oh, and thanks for includinding the chain and tazer, especially the tazer. Hard to obtain over here.

[PSXBatou]

Has anyone downloaded this from the JPN store? I was going to just purchase it on my JPN account but was curious if like warhawk it restricts playing to only the account that purchased the game?

Thanks

[Garfunkel]

I might have to buy it off ebay or playasia or something. I want this baaaaaad.

[Sephiroth_VII]

Why don't you just wait for it to release in your region? Not long now :-p

[Garfunkel]

Really? i thought it was japan only! :hugegrin: awesome.

[Smokey]

Why don't you just wait for it to release in your region? Not long now :-p

when praytell?

[Sephiroth_VII]

Gran Turismo 5 Prologue SCEE Q1 2008 EU
Gran Turismo 5 Prologue SCEI 12/13/07 JP
Gran Turismo 5 Prologue SCEA 03/18/08 US

Source (http://www.gamefaqs.com/console/ps3/data/942026.html)

[Smokey]

Q1 means jan to april? i hate Q1,Q2 talk

[masteratt]

Q1- January February March April
Q2- May June July August
Q3- September October November December

Quarter = 4.
1st Quarter= 1st 4 months.

It confused me too, just recently got the hang of it (I am pretty sure I got it right, if not, wtf).

I don't know why it took me so long, I just heard "coming Q2" and stuff and just thought "bah, too far away" so never bothered I guess.

[Sephiroth_VII]

It's a quarter of the year, so 12/4=3. So 3 months per quarter. Which months depends on wheter we're talking fiscal quarter or going by the seasons, but most companies go by the fiscal system, though it seems PD didn't in this case.

Fiscal:

* 1st Quarter: October 1 – December 31
* 2nd Quarter: January 1 – March 31
* 3rd Quarter: April 1 – June 30
* 4th Quarter: July 1 – September 30

[masteratt]

Ohhhhhh....

http://images.easyart.com/i/prints/rw/en_easyart/lg/7/1/The-Simpsons---D-oh--Mini-Posters-71133.jpg

[FISCHSTYX]

Yaaayyyz only 2 more months so Jax and I dont have to try to decipher sticks and houses anymore!!!!!

[Sephiroth_VII]

Oh, forgot to say that the "normal" Q1 would be the fiscal Q2, normal Q2 would equal fiscal Q3, and so on.

[Matt]

Oh, forgot to say that the "normal" Q1 would be the fiscal Q2, normal Q2 would equal fiscal Q3, and so on.

I was gonna say they don't do it by fiscal quarters. Good job too!

[masteratt]

Okay so I had the right idea but 3 months per quarter instead of four, yay.
Thanks.

I came, I learnt but I didn't conquer....(yet).

[PSXBatou]

I'll just buy it from the Japanese store and hope it doesn't lock it to my Japanese account. Maybe google a bit to find out since I think everyone that has it here imported the physical media.

[Matt]

Actually, isn't Q1 of the fiscal year from the 1st April - 30th June?

[PSXBatou]

Fiscal years are typically numbered using a calendar year and quarter thereof. A fiscal quarter is 3 months (1/4 of a year). For example, the United States government fiscal year for 2008 ("FY08", sometimes written "FY07–08") is as follows:

1st Quarter: October 1, 2007 – December 31, 2007
2nd Quarter: January 1, 2008 – March 31, 2008
3rd Quarter: April 1, 2008 – June 30, 2008
4th Quarter: July 1, 2008 – September 30, 2008

[Matt]

That's odd, because over here March 31st is considered the end of the financial year.

[PSXBatou]

April-March is Sony's fiscal year.

So Q1 of the Fiscal year would be April/May/June 2008

http://www.sony.net/SonyInfo/IR/index.html

[Segitz]

It depends, if it is FISCAL or "non-fiscal" year... Q1 Fiscal is April to June, Q1 non-fiscal is January to March...

And since it was already announced for the US in march, then I guess, Europe won't have to wait either.

[zero 7]

ahhhh im enjoying my bd import copy gt5+dualshock 3=bliss

[Diresu]

ahhhh im enjoying my bd import copy gt5+dualshock 3=bliss

I should have mine in a few days when my friend is finally back from Japan.

[Sephiroth_VII]

Ah, so the definition of a fiscal year depends on the company!? Good lord...

[Garfunkel]

yep, that's why they don't use it, IT'S SO CONFUSING....!!!

[Smokey]

i just wish theyd say 'month' instead of Q1 or that Fall, spring etc crap that US uses as well

[Garfunkel]

Agreed.

Can anyone comment on car physics? Do they have more of a weighty feel to them then the ones from GT4? Do you see it being more realistic?

[Segitz]

Agreed.

Can anyone comment on car physics? Do they have more of a weighty feel to them then the ones from GT4? Do you see it being more realistic?

Didn't you try the GT5P Demo?

As far as the demo is concerned, yes, the cars have quite a good feel in weight.

[Smokey]

Didn't you try the GT5P Demo?

As far as the demo is concerned, yes, the cars have quite a good feel in weight.

the funny thing with the demo my first thought was "fuck they need new front suspension" haha

[zero 7]

they are a lot harder to handle too

[Garfunkel]

there is a prologue demo???

[VG Aficionado]

Agreed.

Can anyone comment on car physics? Do they have more of a weighty feel to them then the ones from GT4? Do you see it being more realistic?From the demo, yeah, they seem to have the weight they're supposed to have, but that's with every GT game I've played. I didn't find anything weird about that feature ever in a GT game, only that other non-simulation games don't feel like that.

[Sephiroth_VII]

^^Look in the Japanese store...

[VG Aficionado]

The GT5P demo isn't there anymore. The only thing you can get now is GTHD, and that's a year old.

[Sephiroth_VII]

I can still see it on my download list though. Maybe someone could share their jap account with Garfunkel?

I can't, since I've forgotten my password...

[VG Aficionado]

I may remember it :cowboy: I don't know if it'll work though.

EDIT: Check your MSNs, both of you.

[GTAce]

Btw. the full Prologue has better physics than the demo, more GTHD like.

[VG Aficionado]

Yeah, some reviewers have said the final GT5P is more polished than the demo, which is probably a month or more older.

[Garfunkel]

Leedogg has already offered his account infomration to me so I can download the demo, thankyou. But as I explained to him I can't download it because of my quota ripping a hole in the time space continuum. I will just wait till the release in Aussie.

I will just keep homing my GTHD skills.

[jaxmkii]

fuck gt5 if they expect that penlty system works

[Fats]

Would it be possible for me to somehow get my hands on the GT5:P demo? :)

[Leedogg]

fats PM coming your way.....

[Fats]

^Thanks Leedogg, but Sephiroth_VII was faster man! :p

:D:D:D

[Sephiroth_VII]

Always glad to be of service.

[Garfunkel]

You can say that again ;)

[GTAce]

GT 5 Prologue to arrive on March 28th

Christopher Dring January 24, 6:05pm

Comments (5)

Sony release schedule reveals date and price of upcoming racer

The prologue to the fifth Gran Turismo is due to hit shelves on the 28th March, and will be priced at £24.99. A downloadable version of the game is also due.

GT5 Prologue is set to contain ten tracks, 37 vehicles, and four game modes, and is one of the most anticipated games for the Playstation 3.
http://www.mcvuk.com/news/29431/GT-5-Prologue-to-arrive-on-March-28th

[Matt]

Ugh, £24.99? But it's practically a demo :(

[GTAce]

No its not. :-p
The price is alright for me.

[cliffbo]

No its not. :-p
The price is alright for me.

that's not fair though, you'd pay $100 for 1 track and half a car

[GTAce]

:lol: No because i have the amazing gift from Polyphony called GTHD Concept 2.0 still on my HDD. 8)
But 37 cars, 5 courses with 10 layouts, online mode with 16 players and a lot of updates are more then some full price title have and that with the GT quality.


Okay i would pay 100 bucks for it but.... ahh...thats something different lol

[Matt]

I love GT, but I'm not prepared to pay more than half the price of the full game for a 100th of the full game's content. If it was £9.99, or maybe at a push, £15.99, then I'd be inclined to go for it.

[jaxmkii]

Ugh, £24.99? But it's practically a demo :(

burnout paridise is only 1 track and 75 cars most of them doubles @ 60usd

[GTAce]

:lol:

[Matt]

burnout paridise is only 1 track and 75 cars most of them doubles @ 60usd

Dont' be pedantic, damn you!

I knew I'd get that kind of reaction from you two anyway ;)

[VG Aficionado]

Actually, it has about the same amount of content as PGR3. But in much higher quality.

[Segitz]

Actually, it has about the same amount of content as PGR3. But in much higher quality.

And it runs flawlessly on a PS3 :P

[Sephiroth_VII]

Get the downloadable version. The load times(or lack thereof) are unbelievable.

[VG Aficionado]

Yeah. Amazing how even in the demo the game loads the track, the music and those 16 awesome looking cars in 7 seconds or so. And while doing it, you're watching the car lineup and their positions, so you don't really notice it's loading.

[Smokey]

Get the downloadable version. The load times(or lack thereof) are unbelievable.

when is the d/l game comin to PSN?

[VG Aficionado]

Presumably at the same time the Blu-ray version is released. Surely before the end of March.

[jaxmkii]

Dont' be pedantic, damn you!

I knew I'd get that kind of reaction from you two anyway ;)

dont get me wrong im likeing burnout. i just find it funny that prologe has as much content as the majoritys of GTs "competitors" that will rape you for $60 while prloge is looking to be under 40usd. but... just because its got the GT name on it folk expect the world, and when it falls short...

im just saying if this exact game was produced buy EA as a multiplatform every year as Harddriving 2007 08 09 ect... no one would question its amount of content. even if they charged you 98usd for the 733t version that came in a molded PVC plastic 1/2 scale helmut.

[Fats]

Same as GT4 Prologue then, just as I previously said. I'll be buying it since there's a substantial amount of content and GT makes me spooge.

[Sephiroth_VII]

I'd alkso like to remind you all that this game will be updates regularily, and if the first update is anything to go by, we have something to look forward to!

[VG Aficionado]

I guess the European and US version will be online from the get go. It would be nice that they added English or even localised menus in upcoming updates.

[GTAce]

Of course they will be online from the beginning.
They already made "Intercontinental" tests on Daytona, i just hope they add the abillity to make own rooms.
Atm its more a server test then anything else.

[VG Aficionado]

I just mean that the new version should include the online mode and the other updates built-in. GT5P is still work in progress after all.

[Leedogg]

Just think of GT5P as a VERY polished beta version of GT5... just like Home Beta

[Matt]

dont get me wrong im likeing burnout. i just find it funny that prologe has as much content as the majoritys of GTs "competitors" that will rape you for $60 while prloge is looking to be under 40usd. but... just because its got the GT name on it folk expect the world, and when it falls short...

im just saying if this exact game was produced buy EA as a multiplatform every year as Harddriving 2007 08 09 ect... no one would question its amount of content. even if they charged you 98usd for the 733t version that came in a molded PVC plastic 1/2 scale helmut.

I was thinking in relative to what you usually get with a GT game. Don't get me wrong, I'm sure GT5P is great, and I hope you guys have fun with it. Personally, I can wait for the full game.

[Diresu]

Woot finally got my GT5:P and DS3

[Raitei]

Does anyone know if there are any wireless race wheels for the ps3?

[PSXBatou]

I was thinking in relative to what you usually get with a GT game. Don't get me wrong, I'm sure GT5P is great, and I hope you guys have fun with it. Personally, I can wait for the full game.

Something tells me that they are just going to add on to the Prologue via digital distribution in order to make it the "complete" game. Not saying there won't be a BD version, but I would be willing to bet that the PSN content would be available sooner than the BD version, plus maybe more up to date.

[Smokey]

Does anyone know if there are any wireless race wheels for the ps3?
i would only consider it if there was one from logitec

[GTAce]

Gran Turismo 5 Prologue Priced and Dated

+ Posted by Scott Goryl // Public Relations Specialist

It’s official - SCEA announced today the April 17 North American ship date for Gran Turismo 5 Prologue, available exclusively for PS3. Developed by famed Polyphony Digital, Gran Turismo 5 Prologue will be available for $39.99 on Blu-ray Disc (BD) and as a download via the PLAYSTATION Store.

The BD version will offer added value with an exclusive behind-the-scenes High Definition (HD) video feature called “Beyond the Apex”. This video will offer some awesome access to the folks at Polyphony and give some background on how they are able to create such a realistic and beautiful driving simulator. We’ll have more information on GT5 Prologue leading up to its launch in April, but until then, check out this video:
http://blog.us.playstation.com/2008/01/29/gran-turismo-5-prologue-priced-and-dated/

[Leedogg]

:rockon:

[VG Aficionado]

Nice :)

[Segitz]

Yeah well... since Europe always gets the shaft on PSN, we are likely to get shafted again and have to wait at least 2 weeks more and pay at least 40€ (although 40USD are 27€).

I wrote this at the SCEA too, maybe they'll answer me, although SCEE and SCEA are "competitors" somehow (although it makes less than sense to me)

[GTAce]

Gran Turismo 5 Prologue hits stores in North America on April 17 for $40, it will also be sold as a digital download for the same price on the Playstation Store. If you buy the disc version it comes packed with an extra behind-the-scenes high-def video called "Beyond the Apex".

The precursor to GTA5 will include 60 vehicles, 16 car online races at 60 frames per second and 1080p HD support. The game also supports online racing events, an in-cockpit view with real-time gauges and human animation and support of the vibration Dualshock controller.

"Ten years following the introduction of Gran Turismo(TM) on PS one(R), Gran Turismo 5 Prologue delivers the most realistic and technologically advanced racing experience on any platform," said Jeff Reese, director, software marketing, SCEA. "With 1080p graphics, revolutionary online features like Gran Turismo(TM) TV and the new in-cockpit racing view, the world'sbest-selling racing franchise will once again set the standard for racing games."

The game will launch with Gran Turismo TV, a dedicated online channel on the Playstation Network that will include worldwide motorsport programming.

Is it just me or is everyone else getting confused with all of these demos and prologues? I'm not sure if this is the best way to roll out a triple-A title. Hit the jump for the official fact sheet and a batch of new screens.
http://kotaku.com/350057/gran-turismo-5-prologue-dated-priced
There are the screens and the press release.
YEAH 60 cars!
And the C1 is in it w00t.

EDIT: LOL@GTA5...

[Jay Gee]

Yeah, I just caught that. It really is hard not to type it like that when abbreviating.

[Sephiroth_VII]

60 cars? Guess we can expect an update soon :-p

[Segitz]

Hmm

The press release states
• Race more than 60 high-performance and exhaustively detailed cars, including vehicles from Ferrari, Audi, Nissan and Mitsubishi.

MORE than 60 cars... Well, it could be 61, but still one more than Kotaku said there would be^^

[GTAce]

http://ps3.kombo.com/article.php?artid=6055
Interesting article but nothing really new, thought you might wanna read it.

[Raitei]

Hrm, this might be interesting, if the disk and digital download are priced the same, then i want to see how this translates to europe.

generally there's a good price conversion from us
(warhawk was $40 and 20 pounds)
so, will GT5P be 20pounds for both disk and digital, or more for one.. ore something totally random from there

[Segitz]

Yeah, same here...

Warhawk was 30€ on PSN, which I found to be a great price. Hopefully, they don't fork us over with GT5P (which they surely will^^ I know Sony as well as you do!)

[GTAce]

http://ps3.kombo.com/article.php?artid=6055
Interesting article but nothing really new, thought you might wanna read it.

*reposting*

Amazon has the BD version listed for 40,95€ iirc.
Some other shops have it at 36-39,99€.

[liquidlion]

Quick update since it hasn't been mentioned. GT 5: P is now out on the Hong Kong ps store for hk$298.00.

[LaLiLuLeLo]

That's like 6 American Dollars!

[Killing Moon]

Hmmn, so it's priced finally; a demo for $40 bucks. I'm sure that it's nice to have 60 cars, but is there anything yet on actual improved GAMEPLAY features of significant value?

So far this is still smelling like GT4 w/ a cockpit view, tacked on online mode (is it even out of the box?) and a video channel. Hardly revolutionary in any sense of the word, really.




Honestly, is this as good as it gets?

[GTAce]

but is there anything yet on actual improved GAMEPLAY features of significant value?
Uhm better driving physics?

[cliffbo]

http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.ps3fanboy.com/media/2008/01/gtjan4.jpg

[GTAce]

Sry, but its "old".
All posted in the Craptaku news about the release date.

[GTAce]

1080p goodness;
http://www.ps3-talk.de/rbilder/dante/GT/4.jpg
http://www.ps3-talk.de/rbilder/dante/GT/6.jpg
http://www.ps3-talk.de/rbilder/dante/GT/7.jpg
Got them from ps3-talk.de