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amuront
05-22-2007, 06:18 PM
http://www.gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?aid=25196
Going Loco
Ellie Gibson 09:31 (BST) 22/05/2007

Tsutomu Kouno talks life since LocoRoco - and what's next.

Released last year as a PSP exclusive, LocoRoco was a hit with the critics - who praised the game for its unique visual style, catchy soundtrack and innovative gameplay mechanics.

The game was also held up as one of the few original titles available for Sony's new handheld, which is fighting hard to compete with Nintendo DS and blockbuster hits such as Brain Training.

In this interview conducted at last week's Nordic Game conference, LocoRoco creator Tsutomu Kouno discusses his ideas for boosting the PSP's software catalogue, plus the potential of the EyeToy and plans for PS3.

GamesIndustry.biz: How do you feel about how the reaction has been to LocoRoco, particularly outside of Japan?

Tsutomu Kouno:I designed the game for the global market, but I didn't know till it was actually released if it would appeal to the global market. I'm very happy to see the reaction, to see that people around the world like our game.

Although there was a huge amount of praise for LocoRoco, there was also some negative criticism - with one US journalist suggesting that the black Moja characters in the game were racist. How did you feel about that?

I have been asked this question many times by American [journalists]. I never cared about that. I was surprised - I was just very ignorant of the fact that it was becoming a big thing. Because people talk about this, it means they care about the issue - and I'm sorry for that to happen. I like the black LocoRoco the most; they're the coolest.

The black ones have an old man's voice, kind of like they're drunk. There are not many games that have an old guy as a main character, so I'm thinking about a new game - nothing to do with LocoRoco - where the new character would be an old man who's drunk all the time and has a very hoarse voice. It would have a traditional setting; it would be set in Europe, in an old style pub, with this drunk character who is also a knight.

Some critics have argued LocoRoco is one of the few original titles for PSP, that the handheld's software catalogue is still very limited compared to the Nintendo DS. How would you respond?

We need to make more new games for PSP, not just sequels. We have to increase the number of casual games, games that LocoRoco players will want to play.

I have to actually do something, to make a change. There are too many sequels for PSP, only sequels, so I want to make a new game for PSP.

You mean a new game that isn't in the LocoRoco series?

Yes. I have many ideas, but I can't make them all because I am only one person. I have five or six new game ideas either for PSP or PS3, but I actually want to make them for PSP - for the people who bought LocoRoco, or bought a PSP because of LocoRoco, and like casual games.

But you are developing LocoRoco 2... So what can you tell us about the sequel?

It's basically the same, but I've also added something new. There aren't too many system changes, but we created new AI and new gimmicks with the physics calculations.

Will it be for PlayStation 3 or just PSP?

I can't really say anything official right now, but... As you'd expect [laughs].

Let's talk theoretically then... Would you be interested in making use of the motion sensing features of the Sixaxis controller, in making a LocoRoco game that works with that?

I actually tried that, and learned that it's quite tiring physically to do this [mimes twisting a Sixaxis left and right] all the time. So I'm brainstorming how to use that feature in a different way, I'm still thinking about it.

I think I'll be able to release that [information] soon; I really want to talk about it, but I can't say yet.

What about the Wii controller? Obviously you're working for Sony, but as a designer are you interested in the possibilities offered by the Wii remote?

I don't have much interest in making a game for Wii. I've already played Wii and checked out how the controller works. The only difference between Wii and PlayStation 3 [control systems] is that the Wii uses a pointing device, whereas the Sixaxis has motion sensing.

I'm actually sensing much more potential in the EyeToy camera, which could be used without holding any controller - [imagine if] you could just hold your hand up and pressing buttons by moving your finger.

If with EyeToy they can recognise the left click of the mouse with just the move of a finger, that means any kind of PC games with left click [functionality] can be realised [on PS3]. There's a lot of potential there.

You mean... Something like Minority Report?

Yes! I think it would be best if we could play using our hands, without even touching the controller. Actually I have a lot of ideas for games that would make use of EyeToy. I can't really say much more, but something the player can actually play - like music, for example.

Like theremin, the instrument where you move your hands to control the volume. Then you can compose music just by using your body. It wouldn't be just a game about that, there would have to be more elements of course, but features like that.

The old EyeToy camera recognised colour instead of movement. It wasn't recognising how humans move, just seeing how colours change when someone moved their hand - the difference between shadow and light.

Soon, our body movement will be recognisable. So Wii currently has a boxing game where you use the controllers to punch, but if the camera can recognise our moves we won't even have to hold controllers.

Yeah, more love for EyeToy, though everything is still vague.

totobeni
05-22-2007, 06:22 PM
well great stuff ...Tsutomu Kouno on PS(R)EYE ...now we re talking SCEJ..

I don't have much interest in making a game for Wii. I've already played Wii and checked out how the controller works. The only difference between Wii and PlayStation 3 [control systems] is that the Wii uses a pointing device, whereas the Sixaxis has motion sensing.

i love this man already ...he is my new hero ...sorry Ueda...

KRA
05-22-2007, 06:27 PM
boxing game without controler should be nice :)
i like how he thinks about gaming games etc too.

VonGak
05-22-2007, 06:33 PM
The black ones have an old man's voice, kind of like they're drunk. There are not many games that have an old guy as a main character, so I'm thinking about a new game - nothing to do with LocoRoco - where the new character would be an old man who's drunk all the time and has a very hoarse voice. It would have a traditional setting; it would be set in Europe, in an old style pub, with this drunk character who is also a knight.

I'd buy that game.

KRA
05-22-2007, 06:44 PM
I'd buy that game.

yeah we need more games where we can be drunking old people.
or addicted from drugs.
hehe
seriouslly i have enough of these heroes.
i want something else.
games can do that.
i want to be old drinking wine man-whore with split personality.
who thinks he is master-chief. :)

totobeni
05-22-2007, 06:47 PM
I'd buy that game.

ya know..this man (Tsutomu Kouno ) was a member at Team ICO , he should be genius like his master fumito ueda , his ideas about games and PS eye games look very interesting..

the big thing here that he should move on and leave LocoRoco Franchise after Locoroco 2 and not burn himself and his soul with only one game/series ..

LaLiLuLeLo
05-22-2007, 06:55 PM
I never was really struck or bothered my the Mojas. They're just scary ghoulies. People just need something to gripe about.
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f312/Tonito44/ThatsRacist.gif

Diresu
05-22-2007, 07:09 PM
I don't have much interest in making a game for Wii. I've already played Wii and checked out how the controller works. The only difference between Wii and PlayStation 3 [control systems] is that the Wii uses a pointing device, whereas the Sixaxis has motion sensing.

*Collective cry of all Nintendo fans echoed through the universe*

totobeni
05-22-2007, 07:20 PM
*Collective cry of all Nintendo fans echoed through the universe*

well..before nintendo fan famous "wiimote=3D sensing® poor Sixaxis=tilt™"

watch this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2rM5Zy5T5Y

^so as Tsutomu Kouno said the only only difference is the Sensor bar

Z
05-22-2007, 07:28 PM
*Collective cry of all Nintendo fans echoed through the universe*
immediately followed by "well, um, he SUCKzorz anyway!! all his games are stupidz!11":tardbang:

dendj55
05-22-2007, 07:39 PM
No more chance of launching controllers threw windows, tvs, etc.

Z
05-22-2007, 10:07 PM
I want something epic! I really want something to make me play through the whole thing with my jaws wide open. SotC owned that last gen. Lair and WarHawk look to be candidates. although I know I need to wait a couple of years to really scream my lungs off.

PS. MGS4 and FF13 are damn candidates too. they just look that good I can't believe I'll be actually playing them in my room one day...

OmniCloud
05-22-2007, 11:14 PM
Hopefully Sony releases some compelling software with the PSEYE to show off the potential of the device. Sorta like how Wii was bundles with Wii sports...

That would be very beneficial...

Diresu
05-22-2007, 11:23 PM
Hopefully Sony releases some compelling software with the PSEYE to show off the potential of the device. Sorta like how Wii was bundles with Wii sports...

That would be very beneficial...

I think they will. Seems like Eyetoy is a big part of their gameplan.

EvilTaru
05-23-2007, 12:40 AM
It's great that Kouno is back making another LocoRoco, too bad gman is off the team though.

Segitz
05-23-2007, 08:59 AM
I thought the "racism" comments were just... JT (of the GTA media stuff) kind of reactions.

I mean COME ON. One can ALWAYS project something bad into something that is fun. This is just for the famous 15 minutes.

In Germany, we have the "Zentralrat der Juden" (Central Comittee of Jews or so). Even if theres the SLIGHTEST connotation to be MADE (doesnt matter if it fits or not), they add their mustard to it (german proverbs ftw^^). There were several occasions, where I just thought "how the fsck do they come up with this kind of stuff".

LiquidEagle
05-23-2007, 10:44 AM
^^ "Er hat eine Vogel!" :laugh:

I don't even know who this "US Journalist" is and I've never even heard that claim before, so I'm amazed the interviewer even bothered to bring it up. Whoever started such a ridiculous allegation wanted attention and that interviewer is just helping keep his "legacy" going for that, it's not like we needed to hear from the creator that they aren't "racist." (which is the wrong term anyways but that's another story :-p)

Anyways, I really liked his concept for playing as an old man, but I got a big ol' smile when he talked about theremin-like possibilities with the PSEye. Although I already own a theremin, I'd love to have a virtual one to play on my PS3 and make all kinds of sounds! :-D

Segitz
05-23-2007, 04:49 PM
^^ "Er hat eine Vogel!" :laugh:

Close, but no Cigar...

"Er hat eineN Vogel!" :P

cliffbo
05-23-2007, 04:53 PM
i'm looking forward to my virtual piano!

KRA
05-23-2007, 04:59 PM
i'm looking forward to my virtual piano!

i would like better something other than existing instuments.
i think... why limit it to reproducing existing instruments ?!
i want some strange fantasy instruments with even stranger sounds :)

curryking1
05-23-2007, 05:00 PM
You should be able to play an elephant.

cliffbo
05-23-2007, 05:09 PM
i would like better something other than existing instuments.
i think... why limit it to reproducing existing instruments ?!
i want some strange fantasy instruments with even stranger sounds :)

now that's a good idea +rep

KRA
05-23-2007, 05:18 PM
You should be able to play an elephant.

hehe i just thought about many little creatures.
where they could work like some kind of orchestra
you could interact with them and depending how you touch them. hit them etc.
they could make diffrent sounds.
ahh
it could go into something quite strange and pervers
if there would be one big creature like a women.
and you could interact with her and she would make some sound hehe

ok i see with playstation eye quite a few possibility for erotic business. :)

cliffbo
05-23-2007, 05:21 PM
hehe i just thought about many little creatures.
where they could work like some kind of orchestra
you could interact with them and depending how you touch them. hit them etc.
they could make diffrent sounds.
ahh
it could go into something quite strange and pervers
if there would be one big creature like a women.
and you could interact with her and she would make some sound hehe

ok i see with playstation eye quite a few possibility for erotic business. :)

careful... lol

VG Aficionado
05-28-2007, 03:31 PM
LocoRoco interactive screen saver coming soon? (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=159255)