PS3 Firmware Version 1.80 Announced (PlayStation, PlayStation 2 and DVD Upscaling!)

[NeoPlayStation]

http://www.gaming-age.com/news/2007/5/23-52

Latest PLAYSTATION 3 Firmware Update Provides PlayStation, PlayStation 2 and DVD Upscaling Remote Play on PSP (PlayStation Portable) via the Internet and DLNA transfer of media content also enabled

Sony Computer Entertainment Europe (SCEE) announced today availability of the latest version of the PLAYSTATION 3 (PS3) firmware. Version 1.80 features upscaling of PlayStation and PlayStation 2 games, and DVD movies up to full 1080p HD resolution when viewed on a compatible HD TV set.

The capability to upscale DVDs to HD quality is a feature normally only associated with top range DVD players, and its inclusion in the latest firmware upgrade now allows PS3 owners with an existing DVD collection to dramatically enhance the viewing pleasure of their DVD collection when viewed through a compatible HD TV set1. Not only can DVD movies be enhanced to full 1080p HD quality but so too will PlayStation 2 and PlayStation games be upscaled to provide much improved gaming pleasure.

In a comprehensive update to PS3’s already impressive capabilities, Version 1.80 also allows users to enjoy Remote Play on their PSP across the internet, allowing them to access their PS3 anywhere in the world where a broadband internet connection is available2.

Version 1.80 also allows users on a home network to seamlessly view and play rich media content such as images, music and video on their PS3, that is stored on their DLNA3 enabled devices such as PCs and laptops elsewhere in the house, reinforcing PS3’s credentials as a home entertainment hub that truly deserves pride of place in the Living Room.

A host of other enhancements include the ability to print photo images stored on PS3’s hard disk or inserted storage media to a selection of Epson printers.

PS3 owners will be able to upgrade their PS3 with the latest Version 1.80 firmware from 24th May 2007.

[GTAce]

Version 1.80 also allows users on a home network to seamlessly view and play rich media content such as images, music and video on their PS3, that is stored on their DLNA3 enabled devices such as PCs and laptops elsewhere in the house, reinforcing PS3’s credentials as a home entertainment hub that truly deserves pride of place in the Living Room.

=-o=-o=-o=-o=-o

[cliffbo]

great news... what a week! +rep

[BruceWayneIII]

Arrghh, just about to post it... Thanks anyway :hugegrin:


Notes:
1. DVD-ROM (including DVD Video content) can only be upscaled with HDMI compatible TV sets.

2. Use of Remote Play requires PS3 version 1.80 as well as PSP firmware version 3.50 which will be available at the end of May.

3. DLNA – Digital Living Network Alliance. For more info on DLNA, please see http://www.dlna.org/en/consumer/home




DLNA Media Class
Image
Required Format Set = JPEG
Optional Format Set = PNG, GIF, TIFF

Audio
Required Format Set = LPCM
Optional Format Set = AAC, AC-3, ATRAC 3plus, MP3, WMA9

AV
Required Format Set = MPEG2
Optional Format Set = MPEG-1, MPEG-4*, AVC, WMV9


^ Maybe we'll get WM9 support too?

[Applefiend]

I'm guessing it upscalling of PS1/PS2 games by a simple pixel doubling proceedure, not rendering natively into a high res buffer.

All the same, fab, there goes the blurries. Biggest problem I have with my day to day gaming is playing these blurry 480i games, on a high def LCD they look like hell. Problem solved.

I was watching upscaled DVDs on my PS3 yesterday (Just copy the MPEG2 data across and watch as a video file). If you get a nice DVD, escepially a PAL one it's pretty nice.

Next best thing to a blu ray, it works very very well with Anime rather than live action.

[VG Aficionado]

Nice :) I wonder if we can watch Blu-ray movies at 720p now.

It should also explain why upscaling wasn't included in the rumoured(?) 2.0 update list ;)

[Overload]

Finally no more bitching about upscaling.
Now on to more important matters, all the things that were present on that 2.00 update list.

[jako]

That is a really big announcement for me. That is the perfect timing, I am just about to buy this :
http://www4.fnac.com/Shelf/article.aspx?PRID=1966924&OrderInSession=1&Mn=18&NID=8897362&SID=1821bc4c-b5da-0600-961a-d93e2d9e7ed3&TTL=240520071615&Origin=FnacFR&Ra=-50&To=0&Nu=2&UID=0d29703c1-82b6-73ac-b345-98b947e0bf17&Fr=2

For me this update helps become PS3, the only real HD console.

EDIT : of course +rep for you Neo

[VG Aficionado]

I should have read it all before posting:

In a comprehensive update to PS3’s already impressive capabilities, Version 1.80 also allows users to enjoy Remote Play on their PSP across the internet, allowing them to access their PS3 anywhere in the world where a broadband internet connection is available2.This is going to be my favourite feature :cloud9:

[qzak]

Frigging Awesome.

[Segitz]

This is the sh*t!

Finally everything is wanted is done! Media Streaming was my biggest letdown until tomorrow!

[cliffbo]

what with this and the new BT deal for the PSP to turn it into a phone, things are looking rosy!

http://forums.e-mpire.com/showthread.php?t=73738

[section]

Excellent news :)

At this rate NeoPlayStation will have a rep of 60 by the time he hits 1000 messages :D

[VG Aficionado]

Take a look at this as well:
(http://www.scee.presscentre.com/Content/Detail.asp?ReleaseID=4372&NewsAreaID=2)
1. DVD-ROM (including DVD Video content) can only be upscaled with HDMI compatible TV sets.

2. Use of Remote Play requires a powered up PS3 with Version 1.80 as well as PSP firmware version 3.50 which will be available at the end of May.

3. DLNA – Digital Living Network Alliance. For more info on DLNA, please see http://www.dlna.org/en/consumer/home

[BruceWayneIII]

^ #4 ;)

[VG Aficionado]

Ooops. +rep.

[B Dizzle]

Woooo Hooooo

Ce-le-brate GOOD Times! COme ON! (sorry, had to get my JT Taylor on)

DLNA compatible 1tb NAS here we come.:)

[cliffbo]

NO!

Hip-hip-Blu-ray! Cell-e-brate GOOD Times!

[VG Aficionado]

:lol:

[Fats]

Great news for HDTV owners, not so much for me. :(

[cliffbo]

Great news for HDTV owners, not so much for me. :(

Bless...

[KRA]

thank god i can't rep neo yet. he would go crazy with that amount +reps :)

[LaLiLuLeLo]

DAMMIT, it's tomorrow. *Cry*

[dendj55]

While I am excited about the update, I am still a little disappointed that you cannot access XMB while in game. When will this be addressed damn it?

[cliffbo]

While I am excited about the update, I am still a little disappointed that you cannot access XMB while in game. When will this be addressed damn it?

if you ask politely perhaps Ken will sever a limb abd send it to you, he's all out of blood.

[LaLiLuLeLo]

So how exactly does DLNA work? What steps are necessary to make that function?

[VG Aficionado]

Applefiend, could you take some pictures now of PS1/PS2 games and even DVD movies on your HDTV to make a comparison tomorrow?

[LaLiLuLeLo]

I think he already has some. I could take some too. But whooo boy it ain't pretty.

[indiekid4]

http://www.gaming-age.com/news/2007/5/23-52

so, we can access our PS3 from anywhere in the world with remote play? But your PS3 needs to be on for this to happen and you need that Location Free Player thingy, correct?

[cliffbo]

so, we can access our PS3 from anywhere in the world with remote play? But your PS3 needs to be on for this to happen and you need that Location Free Player thingy, correct?

no just a hotspot... and i would imagine there will be an update to the PS3 when in standby

[backbreaker]

NO!

Hip-hip-Blu-ray! Cell-e-brate GOOD Times!

I'm stealing this and not giving you any credit, J/K nice play on words.

[VG Aficionado]

It would be quite awesome that we could turn it on remotely, but I wouldn't count on it.

Another piece of awesome, somehow related news: PSP to become mobile phone! (http://psp.ign.com/articles/791/791047p1.html?RSSwhen2007-05-23_045200&RSSid=791047)

[cliffbo]

It would be quite awesome that we could turn it on remotely, but I wouldn't count on it.

Another piece of awesome, somehow related news: PSP to become mobile phone! (http://psp.ign.com/articles/791/791047p1.html?RSSwhen2007-05-23_045200&RSSid=791047)

http://forums.e-mpire.com/showthread.php?t=73738 ;)

[dendj55]

In order to connect via the PSP from a hotspot they will need to address the issue of accessing the remote play function while the PS3 is in stand-by mode. I wonder if I can boot folding@home remotely?

[cliffbo]

PS3+HOME+PC+PSP+Phones+Singstar=I-tune beater.

[Applefiend]

OK, I'll take some, it never seems to work out but I'll give it a go.

[VideoGame mania]

The capability to upscale DVDs to HD quality is a feature normally only associated with top range DVD players, and its inclusion in the latest firmware upgrade now allows PS3 owners with an existing DVD collection to dramatically enhance the viewing pleasure of their DVD collection when viewed through a compatible HD TV set1. Not only can DVD movies be enhanced to full 1080p HD quality but so too will PlayStation 2 and PlayStation games be upscaled to provide much improved gaming pleasure.
http://img131.imageshack.us/img131/9790/sp3gifdk9.gif (http://imageshack.us)

[rpgamer_2k5]

Hopefully this means Adaptive, multisample, Transparency anti-aliasing, and anisotropic filtering as well.

Yes, they said upscaling and hence I expect more than just an increase in resolution. Besides PSX and even PS2 games would be littered with artifacts without these optimizations.

It's a must, damn it!

[curryking1]

^Isn't upscaling just stretching and little corrections after the image is already produced?

I'm confused.

[Z]

the good news keep on coming its scary. :)

[CreativeWriter]

So will we be able to upscale to 720p and 1080i or must we have a 1080p set?

[Applefiend]

Just need hdmi I think.

[Leedogg]

Thank You Sony!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !

:rave:

[stuart_r]

Just a question?

Do we really kneed XMB during games or a system like the Xbox 360 where you get a special access to music and friends during games?

Maybe that would be a better solution?

[KRA]

Just a question?

Do we really kneed XMB during games or a system like the Xbox 360 where you get a special access to music and friends during games?

Maybe that would be a better solution?

sony will choose what is the best for us ;)

[dendj55]

Just a question?

Do we really kneed XMB during games or a system like the Xbox 360 where you get a special access to music and friends during games?

Maybe that would be a better solution?

I want the ability to pause my game and check out a message sent by a friend, I don't want to have to save the game, quit the game, check the message and then boot the game back up. I could care less about music, video, internet, all I want is access to send/receive/view/reply/coordinate, etc during gameplay. Hopefully this can be achieved in some manner soon regardless of whether it is "accessing the XMB" during gameplay.

[Domination]

http://www.gaming-age.com/news/2007/5/23-52

Version 1.80 also allows users on a home network to seamlessly view and play rich media content such as images, music and video on their PS3, that is stored on their DLNA3 enabled devices such as PCs and laptops elsewhere in the house, reinforcing PS3’s credentials as a home entertainment hub that truly deserves pride of place in the Living Room.

A host of other enhancements include the ability to print photo images stored on PS3’s hard disk or inserted storage media to a selection of Epson printers.

Let's just say I tried to explain the bolded part to someone awhile back and they didn't take it seriously. :stirpot:

In other news, I already saw printers making an appereance (aswel as scanners) since we had this discussion awhile back in a thread concerning the Bluetooth technology in the PS3. ;)

[LaLiLuLeLo]

Hopefully this means Adaptive, multisample, Transparency anti-aliasing, and anisotropic filtering as well.

Yes, they said upscaling and hence I expect more than just an increase in resolution. Besides PSX and even PS2 games would be littered with artifacts without these optimizations.

It's a must, damn it!

here we go again with Sony giving us toast and people assuming that means eggs and bacon as well.

[LiquidEagle]

What does that part mean? Does it just mean the PS3 will be visible on a home network now?

[user friendly]

What a month May has been. Amazing stuff!!

This and the Warhawk beta tomorrow, going to be a busy weekend.

[CreativeWriter]

Just need hdmi I think.

How about DVI to HDMI? :huh:

I guess I'll find out tomorrow.

[wotter]

Nice week :clapping: !

[frosty]

Apple, since the games run on a software emulator (and therefore use RSX to render the output), what's stopping PS3 from rendering PS1 and PS2 games at native 1080p? My PC emulator does it just fine.

[aclar00]

What does that part mean? Does it just mean the PS3 will be visible on a home network now?

^what he said....will my computer wifi now be able to recognize the PS3....will i have to download something extra to my pc (DLNA?)

[frosty]

Digital Living Network Alliance (DLNA), (formerly: Digital Home Working Group), is a unique, international, cross-industry collaboration of leading consumer electronics, computing industry and mobile device companies. These DLNA Member Companies share a vision of a wired and wireless interoperable network of Personal Computers (PC), Consumer Electronics (CE) and mobile devices in the home and on the road, enabling a seamless environment for sharing new digital media and content services. To this end, DLNA is focused on delivering an interoperability framework of design guidelines based on open industry standards and a certification/logo program to officially verify and validate the conformance and interoperability of compliant products for the consumers.

Originally founded by Sony and Intel in June of 2003, the current DLNA organization (as of Spring 2007) consists of eight Board companies (Hewlett-Packard, Intel, Matsushita, Microsoft, Nokia, Philips, Samsung, Sony), sixteen non-board Promoter companies (AMD, Broadcom, Comcast, DigiOn, Dolby, Huawei, IBM, Kenwood, Lenovo, LGE, Motorola, NXP, Pioneer, Sharp, ST Microelectronics and Toshiba), and approximately 240 Contributor (or regular) members.

The initial DLNA Interoperability Guidelines (Version 1.0) were first published in June 2004; just one year after the DLNA organization was formed. This initial version covered the basic home (or stationary) devices operating as content servers and players. A certification and logo program to validate DLNA-compliant products was launched in September of 2005 to cover the 1.0 Guidelines. Products which pass this certification are allowed to use the DLNA CERTIFIED (TM) logo on their product and associated collateral. Work on the guidelines has also continued at a rapid pace and a new Version 1.5 (also known as Expanded Guidelines) was published in late 2005, covering a much larger set of use cases and device categories, including printers and mobile devices. Certification covering this new Version 1.5 is expected to start from spring of 2007.

There are currently four DLNA-accredited testing laboratories covering the major geographic regions (US, Japan, Belgium and Taiwan) which conduct the conformance and interoperability test suites necessary for successfully passing the certification program. In addition, the DLNA certification program requires UPnP certification for products that can be tested for UIC certification. Similarly, for products that support IEEE 802.11 wireless interface, Wi-Fi certification is required in order to obtain DLNA certification.

DLNA CERTIFIED products are currently sold by over 20 major-brand manufacturers and available at retail throughout the world.

[Applefiend]

If the PS1 emulator is all software, then we can get real high res rendered PS1 games, but for PS2(In Europe) only the Emotion Engine is software, not the GS. The GS is what generates PS2 game graphics in a PS3, not RSX.

Just think about the bandwidth of the PS2 EDRAM multiplied up to 1080p. Ouch...

I'll be right tomorrow, wait and see, I'd put money on it.

[frosty]

I was thinking it was the GS that was removed, and not the EE (however they were on the same chip, no?)

[amuront]

Finally DLNA!! Media streaming FTW. Hopefully, it supports a good amount of formats natively. For unsupported format, we can just leave the PC do the conversion on-the-fly (at the expense of quality)

[frosty]

Thing is, what software do we use to stream this stuff to ps3?

[Sypher]

Ok this is what I was waiting for. I literaly stopped playing my PS2 games specifically to play them in HD when the time came.

I finally have ALL the reasons to get a PS3!:rockon: :XD:

[Jimboc]

FYI, the official SCEA PR.

LATEST PLAYSTATION 3 FIRMWARE UPDATE ADDS UPSCALING FOR PLAYSTATION/PLAYSTATION 2 GAMES AND DVD MOVIES

Remote Play on PSP (PlayStation Portable) System via Wireless Internet and Access to Media Content via DLNA Technology Also Enabled

FOSTER CITY, Calif., May 23, 2007 – Sony Computer Entertainment America (SCEA) today announced that the next regular system software update for the PLAYSTATION 3 (PS3) computer entertainment system (version 1.80) will be available on Thursday, May 24, and will add upscaling of PlayStation/PlayStation 2 games and DVD movies up to 1080p resolution. Now, in addition to displaying native high-definition (HD) content in the highest possible quality (1080p), PS3 system can turn standard definition content into a vibrant HD-quality experience.

The latest firmware update also gives PS3 owners more flexibility to enjoy their digital entertainment content where they want to. The Remote Play feature for using a PSP (PlayStation Portable) system to access photos, videos, and music on a PS3 system’s hard drive will be available from outside of a user’s own home via any accessible Wi-Fi Internet connection, upon the next PSP firmware update. Additionally, PS3 can now play back media content stored on a personal computer or digital video recorder with Digital Living Network Alliance (DLNA) capability over a home network.

“As adoption of HDTVs continues to surge, we know that consumers are hungry for content, and this latest firmware update leverages the PS3’s technology to deliver an HD-quality experience using the entertainment media already in your collection,” said Peter Dille, senior vice president of marketing, SCEA. “In addition, we continue to enhance the PS3’s capabilities as an entertainment hub, giving consumers the option to bring their content with them on-the-go, or to stream photos, videos, and music stored on their PC to the PS3 in their living room. That’s often where the largest TV monitor and sound system is located, giving consumers the best possible entertainment experience.”

Upscaling Games and Movies
SCEA is enhancing the PS3 user experience by enabling PlayStation and PlayStation 2 games to be upscaled to HD resolution, up to 1080p. Classic games as well as recently released titles can now be enjoyed like never before. And PS3 system now has the capability to upscale DVD videos to HD quality (up to 1080p), a feature typically limited to top-of-the-line DVD players. Upscaling games requires an HDMI or component AV cable, while upscaling DVD-ROM (including DVD Video content) requires an HDMI cable and HDMI compatible TV set.

Media Content on the Move
Since November, PS3 owners have been able to stream photos, videos, and music stored on their PS3’s hard drive to a nearby PSP system. Consumers will soon have the freedom to access this media content wherever and whenever their PSP is connected to a wireless Internet access point. To take advantage of this feature, users will have to update their PSP system’s firmware to the next version, 3.50, slated for release next week. Once both systems are updated, consumers can enjoy their entertainment content wherever and whenever wireless Internet access is available, including the 7,000 T-Mobile HotSpot locations across the United States.

Other Feature Upgrades

Copying Saved Data to a Memory Card – Users can now copy saved data from
PlayStation or PlayStation 2 format software stored on their PS3 system to a
Memory Card or Memory Card (8MB) (for PlayStation 2), using their PS3
system and a Memory Card Adaptor.

Photo Printing, Viewing, and Editing – The photo capabilities of PS3 system
have been enhanced, allowing users to print digital photos stored on a PS3’s
hard drive or inserted storage media. Currently, select Epson printers connected
via USB are compatible. In addition, users will find a new type of slideshow for
displaying photos, zoom functionality and the option to crop images.



Upscaling for games via component is official. And upscaling is supported for 720p, 1080i, 1080p.

[Fillibuster]

Gah so close!!! I don't have an HDMI TV. Hmm I wonder what's the cheapest HDMI>DVI I could find...Think my Monitor would automatically setup two PC inputs, since I already have an RGB plugged in for my computer?

EDIT: Haha you answered my question while I was posting, thank god for component support too. Plus rep to you and Neo!

[GTAce]

Photo Printing, Viewing, and Editing – The photo capabilities of PS3 system
have been enhanced, allowing users to print digital photos stored on a PS3’s
hard drive or inserted storage media. Currently, select Epson printers connected
via USB are compatible. In addition, users will find a new type of slideshow for
displaying photos, zoom functionality and the option to crop images.

AWESOMENESSE X10!11111111 I have a Epson Stylus DX 3850 i hope it will be supported.

[Domination]

Digital Living Network Alliance (DLNA), (formerly: Digital Home Working Group), is a unique, international, cross-industry collaboration of leading consumer electronics, computing industry and mobile device companies. These DLNA Member Companies share a vision of a wired and wireless interoperable network of Personal Computers (PC), Consumer Electronics (CE) and mobile devices in the home and on the road, enabling a seamless environment for sharing new digital media and content services. To this end, DLNA is focused on delivering an interoperability framework of design guidelines based on open industry standards and a certification/logo program to officially verify and validate the conformance and interoperability of compliant products for the consumers.

Originally founded by Sony and Intel in June of 2003, the current DLNA organization (as of Spring 2007) consists of eight Board companies (Hewlett-Packard, Intel, Matsushita, Microsoft, Nokia, Philips, Samsung, Sony), sixteen non-board Promoter companies (AMD, Broadcom, Comcast, DigiOn, Dolby, Huawei, IBM, Kenwood, Lenovo, LGE, Motorola, NXP, Pioneer, Sharp, ST Microelectronics and Toshiba), and approximately 240 Contributor (or regular) members.

The initial DLNA Interoperability Guidelines (Version 1.0) were first published in June 2004; just one year after the DLNA organization was formed. This initial version covered the basic home (or stationary) devices operating as content servers and players. A certification and logo program to validate DLNA-compliant products was launched in September of 2005 to cover the 1.0 Guidelines. Products which pass this certification are allowed to use the DLNA CERTIFIED (TM) logo on their product and associated collateral. Work on the guidelines has also continued at a rapid pace and a new Version 1.5 (also known as Expanded Guidelines) was published in late 2005, covering a much larger set of use cases and device categories, including printers and mobile devices. Certification covering this new Version 1.5 is expected to start from spring of 2007.

There are currently four DLNA-accredited testing laboratories covering the major geographic regions (US, Japan, Belgium and Taiwan) which conduct the conformance and interoperability test suites necessary for successfully passing the certification program. In addition, the DLNA certification program requires UPnP certification for products that can be tested for UIC certification. Similarly, for products that support IEEE 802.11 wireless interface, Wi-Fi certification is required in order to obtain DLNA certification.

DLNA CERTIFIED products are currently sold by over 20 major-brand manufacturers and available at retail throughout the world.

Great find, Frosty.

For reasons like this is why I never underestimate them. It seems Sony had all of this stuff in the bag way ahead of time.

[cliffbo]

frosty what degree of improvement will we see when a dvd movie is upscaled to 1080p?

:)

[woundingchaney]

Great to see DVD upscaling put into place. Pretty much makes the PS3 my hands down movie player.

[Sypher]

frosty what degree of improvement will we see when a dvd movie is upscaled to 1080p?

:)

If you've never seen a upscaled DVD 1080p, it can be touch and go.

[frosty]

Well, basically with DVD upscaling it takes the image and stretches it to fill a 1080p frame, then interpolates the missing pixels to try to add more detail where there was none previously. Don't expect it to be anywhere near Blu-Ray, but at the same time you can rely on it looking better than SD output for sure.

[LaLiLuLeLo]

Copying Saved Data to a Memory Card – Users can now copy saved data from
PlayStation or PlayStation 2 format software stored on their PS3 system to a
Memory Card or Memory Card (8MB) (for PlayStation 2), using their PS3
system and a Memory Card Adaptor.

Awesome, I'm gonna update, swap my old hdd back in, copy my FF12 game save, and pick up where I REALLY left off.

[Oxblood]

sorry if this was already mentioned.

Does this coorelate to the "ripening" of dvds and games that was spoke of a year or so ago. My impression was this ripening process required a pre-processing and saving to the hard drive or something, this upscaling sounds like the ripening and upscaling are not the same.

Can someone please de-mystify.

thanks

[Leedogg]

Apple, since the games run on a software emulator (and therefore use RSX to render the output), what's stopping PS3 from rendering PS1 and PS2 games at native 1080p? My PC emulator does it just fine.

my question is, if they do change from hardware to software emulation. Will that greatly cut down on PS2 games that are backwards compatible? With Hardware Emulation we are at 98% (I think)

[Nameless]

This is great news!
I agree the PS3 will be my media player period...
Also, I can finally finish GOW 2 in full 1080P baby; I just hope the upscaled games are actually improved visually...

[woundingchaney]

my question is, if they do change from hardware to software emulation. Will that greatly cut down on PS2 games that are backwards compatible? With Hardware Emulation we are at 98% (I think)

Well Im not sure if your talking about software emulation or specific to upscaling. The Euro PS3 emulates through software and seems to be very user-friendly and adept at running the previous PS brand titles (honestly I didnt expect the success they are having).



Also, I can finally finish GOW 2 in full 1080P baby; I just hope the upscaled games are actually improved visually...

I have noticed that the benefit of upscaling really comes through in digital images (games, cgi movies etc - IMO). While an upscaled picture is nearly always going to look better regardless (particularly noticeable the larger the TV size).

[Fats]

Can someone tell me how this DLNA actually works?

[backbreaker]

Nice Graph, Stolen from GAF

[Segitz]

Strange, that Graph says, that BluRay via HDMI could now do 720P and via DVI it cant?

I mean, the PS3 cant even distinguish between DVI and HDMI itself (at least mine always wants to send the sound via HDMI whilst my tv only has DVI)

[VG Aficionado]

I'm going to check if the update is available already.

EDIT: Not yet.

[OmniCloud]

Good stuff...but can we please get custom wallpapers and soundtracks...

Just one more Sony....One more....

07 is PS3's real launch man, stuff is falling into place left & right...

[Shogun042]

great news, i'm really looking forward to PSP remote play from anywhere, bu, but, i want my warhawk :cry2:

what is this DLNA business and is Apple a part of it?

[Epix]

DLNA is just a wireless content streaming protocol. When v1.8 comes out all you'll need to do, as a PS3 owner, is download a DLNA compatible app (such as this (http://tversity.com/home/)) for your computer and you'll be good to go!

[Fahrbot]

Looks like they also added the ability to output Blu-Ray @ true 24 fps. So no frame jitter from the mismatched frame rate conversion if your tv supports 24Hz. This was a big thing separating the stand alone bluray players from the PS3.
(Check out Joystiq.com images on the 1.8 firmware to see the 24Hz option) I'd post the url but I don't have enough posts yet to post a url.

[user friendly]

A few pics.

http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.ps3fanboy.com/media/2007/05/dlna_client_en.jpg

http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.ps3fanboy.com/media/2007/05/dvd_en.jpg

http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.ps3fanboy.com/media/2007/05/game_en.jpg

http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.ps3fanboy.com/media/2007/05/print_en.jpg

[VG Aficionado]

"Smoothing" :banana:

Shouldn't the 1080p24 option make the movies run at 48 Hz just like at theatres?

[Domination]

Good stuff...but can we please get custom wallpapers and soundtracks...

Just one more Sony....One more....

07 is PS3's real launch man, stuff is falling into place left & right...

Be patient, it's coming.

I knew the PC functionality was coming, but I thought it would be at the end of the year. Sony really surprised me with this update. I'm thinking the XMB update could possibly come around E3. It seems Sony is just rounding up all of their ducks right now before this update.

[curryking1]

http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.ps3fanboy.com/media/2007/05/dvd_en.jpg
..........

Wow...

The PS3 has a lot more options than my PS2 :(

[VG Aficionado]

Wow...

The PS3 has a lot more options than my PS2 :(:evillaugh

[GTAce]

Poor curryking. 8(

Hey its not that far away just be glad that you can buy this monster soon. ;)





*kissestheps3*

[curryking1]

:cry2:

[gozirah]

I am hoping to see some ps1 and ps2 before and after shots. I will try to see if I can directfeed some myself.

[user friendly]

I am hoping to see some ps1 and ps2 before and after shots.

It's pretty much guaranteed.

[ddaryl]

The machine is really coming into its own now. I'm still waiting for some of the anticipated games, but by Xmas the PS3 will be roaring pretty loud.

[frosty]

Shouldn't the 1080p24 option make the movies run at 48 Hz just like at theatres?

Theater movies run at 24hz. 1080p24 TV's run at 48hz IIRC, but simply leave the frame on screen for 2hz.

[Shogun042]

uh i don't suppose anyone would know where to find some Mac OS X DLNA software. i can't seem to find any.

[rpgamer_2k5]

here we go again with Sony giving us toast and people assuming that means eggs and bacon as well. Upscaling PSX games without AA and texture filtering? That doesn't seem to sound that forward. No, I'm not saying it will be on the upcoming firmware but for upscaling to be worthwhile, it should.

Oh well, I can wait. :)

[user friendly]

uh i don't suppose anyone would know where to find some Mac OS X DLNA software. i can't seem to find any.


Twonkyvision (http://www.twonkyvision.de/Download/TwonkyMedia/index.html)

It's free for a month and then cost's $60 after that. (one time fee I believe)

[jaxmkii]

this is awsome stuff! can't wait to get back home.

[mario25]

It's UUUUUUUUUUUP........everybody Download Now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:download: :pinky:

[jaxmkii]

^ can't 1400 miles from home... ;(

[user friendly]

Yep, booyah!!

[gozirah]

Suddenly folding rates plummet...

[Trailblazer]

Some people on Neogaf are reporting that 1.8 allows for 720p Blueray Playback . I'm at work and can't update. Can I get a confirmation on this?

[LaLiLuLeLo]

keeps giving me an error message.
Edit: there we go, just had to restart the ps3.

I'd test the 720p thing for you, but my hdtv isn't huge enough to tell the difference, someone else will have to check, like with a 50" mamma jamma.

[PSXBatou]

Well one thing im peeved about.... They upscale the PS2 games, but even when you turn them in to 16:9 mode via the game menu they seem to stick in 4:3 mode according to my TV. To get them in full screen i have to use 4:3 expanded mode on my TV.

Before the update i would set via game menu to 16:9 and my TV would adjust to 16:9. Wonder if they will fix this :(

[aclar00]

can someone upload the update somewhere so i can download it...its not up on the ps3 website and i dont have internet access for my ps3 for the time being

[LaLiLuLeLo]

I love how this generation, the hardware is constantly improving.

[Trailblazer]

I love how this generation, the hardware is constantly improving.

Software.

The PS3 hardware was already aces, it was the software that wasn't up to snuff at Launch. But its getting there, by leaps and bounds no less :evil:

[PSXBatou]

I love how this generation, the hardware is constantly improving.

But im not :twitch:

Under Setting -> Game Settings -> PS2 Upscaler There is 2 options, the first one allows you to select "full screen" instead of the default "normal".

So my previous rant is now null

[Applefiend]

I was thinking it was the GS that was removed, and not the EE (however they were on the same chip, no?)

Yah, the EE+GS is a single chip solution, it's in slimline PS2s and PS3s, Euro PS2s have GS+Emulated EE. Very smart buggers Sony, EE is the easiest to emulate.

An update you say, woohooo!

[LaLiLuLeLo]

It looks like 'smoothing' improves anti-aliasing rather than textures.

[CreativeWriter]

I imagine I want this DVD upscaler set to "Full Screen," no?

[LaLiLuLeLo]

yes

[LiquidEagle]

Okay guys, forgive me, I'm being a total jackass about this update, but how exactly am I going to get DLNA to work? All I have to do is install that software, and the PS3 can see my computer and all its files in the XMB? In that quote frosty posted it also talked about 802.11 wireless and I thought it might just be a wireless thing, but...

Also, I wonder if smoothing for PS/PS2 games will help those of us still stuck in SD Land :-/

[Fillibuster]

DL now...I can't wait to pop in MGS3 and GOW2 and such. Those who doubted Sony are kicking themselves because these firmware updates have been so strong for the console.

[LaLiLuLeLo]

Okay guys, forgive me, I'm being a total jackass about this update, but how exactly am I going to get DLNA to work? All I have to do is install that software, and the PS3 can see my computer and all its files in the XMB? In that quote frosty posted it also talked about 802.11 wireless and I thought it might just be a wireless thing, but...

Also, I wonder if smoothing for PS/PS2 games will help those of us still stuck in SD Land :-/

I can't get DLNA to work properly on my computer for some reason, I'll have to look at it during daylight hours. But smoothing seems to help anti-aliasing more than anything. but don't need to bother with the full screen upscaling or anything if you've got an sdtv.

[CreativeWriter]

Honestly, I couldn't tell a difference with FFXII, but I haven't played it in months. I did spot some subtle changes to the on-screen keyboard. The cursor is green and it underlines words as you type...

[Applefiend]

Before and after pics:

http://www.bhprojects.com/Media/jaggie1.jpg
old

http://www.bhprojects.com/Media/jaggie2.jpg
new

Image upscaling not native high res rendering guv. Told ya!

nice improvement though.

[aclar00]

so no one is able to upload the update anywhere so i kan download it?

[LaLiLuLeLo]

I haven't been able to find it anywhere aside from directly on my ps3. I searched for firmware updates on the website but zilch.

[user friendly]

Using Media Player 11 you can stream most if not all (escept divx or wmv) of your music/vids/pics.

After testing this, it has to be the dopest part of todays update. Everyone must try it, just enable media sharing on the ps3 and in MP11 in the library settings.

Best part of all, a Windows Media Player icon pops up in the XMB.

[Smokey]

omg DVDs look awsome :)

[aclar00]

thanks for the effort LaLi...I cant remember if you can save it to some kind of external media and then transfer to a computer or not...is that possible?

[LaLiLuLeLo]

can you or someone walk us through this? DNLA isn't working right on my computer.

ACL00, seems like you can't do that anymore. Weird.

N/M user friendly :)

[EvilTaru]

Some people on Neogaf are reporting that 1.8 allows for 720p Blueray Playback . I'm at work and can't update. Can I get a confirmation on this?

I can confirm this to be teh true, works with Omen BD.http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v500/EvilTaru/Indifferent2.gif

[Smokey]

Well one thing im peeved about.... They upscale the PS2 games, but even when you turn them in to 16:9 mode via the game menu they seem to stick in 4:3 mode according to my TV. To get them in full screen i have to use 4:3 expanded mode on my TV.

Before the update i would set via game menu to 16:9 and my TV would adjust to 16:9. Wonder if they will fix this :(

use the "fullscreen" mode

[Applefiend]

Been messing with PS1 games.

Spryo the Dragon

Filter off/Upscale off - This is the pre 1.80 setting
Good

Filter On/Upscale off
Better, much richer looking

Filter on/Upscale on
Worse. Worse frame rate, broken bitty sound.

Interesting...

[user friendly]

Has anybody tried the media sharing with WMP11? It's awesome!! and soooo easy.

[Segitz]

For you guys having a tv that supports it...

The PS3 can now output 1080P/24 BDROM and 720P w/o downscaling.

http://img393.imageshack.us/img393/4433/dsc00267dz1.th.jpg (http://img393.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc00267dz1.jpg)

Checking the rest NOW!

DLNA works in Vista without additional software (who would have thought of THAT^^)

http://img379.imageshack.us/img379/7761/dsc00266yf1.th.jpg (http://img379.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc00266yf1.jpg)

MGS2 (non substance) now WORKS!

Sorry, dont have my real CAM here atm, took these with my Cell phone :P

I need to stress, this update is the best Sony has EVER MADE YET!!!

EDIT3:

I think, after watching GT4, the "upscaling" like Applefiend said, is simple, well upscaling, not native rendering...

BUT, if GT4 had nicer lighting, it would nearly look like freaking GTHD!!

EDIT4:

And pressing the PS button while a PS2 game is running now pauses the game (at least GT4 did)

EDIT5:

DVD Upscaling looks wicked with good encoded DVDs (tried it with The Matrix Special Edition Box, Matrix 2).

http://img451.imageshack.us/img451/646/dsc00268cx0.th.jpg (http://img451.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dsc00268cx0.jpg)

As I need to go to University rather soon, I'll be back for more updates rather late (~4PM).

[LaLiLuLeLo]

Has anybody tried the media sharing with WMP11? It's awesome!! and soooo easy.

how does it work with MP11? I can look at pictures, but music and movie streaming isn't working. Is it something to do with my internet? I am in stupid school internet service...so it's hard for me to work it out.

Actually, seems like it's only movies that isn't working.

[EvilTaru]

You can also do the streaming to PSP now with Remote Play.

[Kabbage]

I cant do the media center thingie... it is giving me a message.

[Jasonps3]

On your PC go into WM11 and go into Tools, and then Options. Go to the Library Tab and Select Configure Sharing. If your PS3 is on, An Unknown Device Thumbnail should be there. Select it and Press the Allow Button. Remember, the PS3 won't play media that it doesn't support...yet.

[Kabbage]

Access to the media server is not allowed. It is possible that the system name for this PS3 (PS3 Name) has not been registered. Check the settings for the media server.

So what... enable sharing on my drive?

[Kabbage]

Forget PS3.

My PC is right near my ps3, I'll just use that for my videos... Piece of krap :(

[CreativeWriter]

Access to the media server is not allowed. It is possible that the system name for this PS3 (PS3 Name) has not been registered. Check the settings for the media server.

So what... enable sharing on my drive?

I have this same problem. On WMP11 nothing shows up in the connections box. I've even got my firewall set to ignore WMP...

For a moment I was able to look at (but not play) the files in both my WMP library and this TVersity thing (download earlier in thread), but now the PS3 just doesn't see any servers running at all.

[frosty]

You could always just sell it or take a sledge hammer to it since it is such a piece of crap. Shit or get off the pot, don't bitch if you still enjoy using it. Give the box a break, and try something else before calling it a piece of crap because you can't figure out how to get one program to work with it (when there are others that you can try).

[Vegtro]

It was easy for me to access through my PC. Just turn on Media Sharing through my Network (on Vista) and it's on. Remember, it can only see files that are supported by the PS3.

[CreativeWriter]

It was easy for me to access through my PC. Just turn on Media Sharing through my Network (on Vista) and it's on. Remember, it can only see files that are supported by the PS3.

If only it were this easy on my XP machine...

[frosty]

http://www.twonkyvision.com/Download/TwonkyMedia/index.html

Another program to try (30 day trial).

[woundingchaney]

Im running Vista X64 Home Premium let me give it a try. BRB

[user friendly]

Im running perfect in xp through WMP11. Not all video codecs will play but all pics and music files do. mp4 obviously will go through but Im not sure what else. At first I ran into problems but then I figured out I still had WMP10, after that it was good to go. Simply amazing, this update is. All my pics uncompressed, on my 1080p panel.... :ko:

[EvilTaru]

Forget PS3.

My PC is right near my ps3, I'll just use that for my videos... Piece of krap :(

On the PC side:

Window Media Player has to be set up, go to library, then media sharing, share your media to unknown device, click allow.

On your PS3 side:

Go to video, click on search for media servers.

[KRA]

You could always just sell it or take a sledge hammer to it since it is such a piece of crap. Shit or get off the pot, don't bitch if you still enjoy using it. Give the box a break, and try something else before calling it a piece of crap because you can't figure out how to get one program to work with it (when there are others that you can try).

or someone could just give it to me...
crap.
reading you checking this new stuff make me want ps3 even more.
i haven't thought that's even possible.

[frosty]

What folders does it give you access to? Is it only stuff in the WMP playlists?

[woundingchaney]

It works fine, although I can get my pics its not detecting my any of my music and not all my video. For those having a problem you must set up file sharing through WMP11 (I cant see where this is only capable on Vista it should work with anything running WMP11). Once you update the PS3 add the new detection through WMP11 and you should be good to go. Then detect the pc through PS3. You need to manually add what files and folders you want to share with network devices.

[user friendly]

Theres an option under the Library tab I beleive that lets you select which folder or folders youd like to be able to access. Just check the ones you want and all should be well. I have it so it's linked to my documents or you could even do your c:/ drive (you would get way to many icons on the screen though).

It's alot faster (videos especially) when using wired versus a wireless connection type. Im actually using it through remote play on my psp and it's pure awesomeness.

There's probably tuts on this already.

[OmniCloud]

What exactly did the upscaling thing do? God of War 2 still looks better on my regular TV:huh:

[Smokey]

does all this detecting happen through WIFI?? PC-PS3

[EvilTaru]

What exactly did the upscaling thing do? God of War 2 still looks better on my regular TV:huh:

It upscales the game to 720p or 1080p depending on your TV, before the game displays at 480p on an HDTV, and 480i on a CRT.

[Smokey]

What exactly did the upscaling thing do? God of War 2 still looks better on my regular TV
well i can tell you DVDs & V8 supercar look alot better :)

It upscales the game to 720p or 1080p depending on your TV, before the game displays at 480p on an HDTV, and 480i on a CRT.
it ups it to 1080i which mine set at dont it??

[CreativeWriter]

On the PC side:

Window Media Player has to be set up, go to library, then media sharing, share your media to unknown device, click allow.

On your PS3 side:

Go to video, click on search for media servers.

I swear, I can't get this thing to work. When I first installed TVersity and enabled WMP11 sharing I saw both the TVersity server and the WMP server, though it wouldn't play any of the files (even mp3s). Now I can't get it to see anything, not even the WMP, and I've got my Windows firewall OFF and the Norton firewall set to exclude these programs...

EDIT: Now the WMP is showing up even though I didn't search for a server, and it's saying the PS3 isn't registered... Maybe this is the splitter's fault. For some reason, WMP doesn't see the PS3 at all.

[OmniCloud]

well i can tell you DVDs & V8 supercar look alot better :)


it ups it to 1080i which mine set at dont it??Yeah, I just popped Cars in and it looks almost as good as Happy feet!!! Well not really, but it's looks awesome...

btw-Happy feet is probably one of the best things to happen to Blu-ray...Better than the movies man...

I dunno, maybe I should set my TV to 720p instead of 1080i when playing a PS2 game? What's the game setting you guys are using? I honestly can't see a difference here with this game?

[Smokey]

v8 supercar before the update had a shocking framerate (unplayable) now its smooth as butter & im even noticed stuff that wasnt there before (well mustve bin) but heat waves coming from the bonnet look awsome & i played Ludicrious amount of hours on it before & never seen heat waves??

[woundingchaney]

I swear, I can't get this thing to work. When I first installed TVersity and enabled WMP11 sharing I saw both the TVersity server and the WMP server, though it wouldn't play any of the files (even mp3s). Now I can't get it to see anything, not even the WMP, and I've got my Windows firewall OFF and the Norton firewall set to exclude these programs...

EDIT: Now the WMP is showing up even though I didn't search for a server, and it's saying the PS3 isn't registered... Maybe this is the splitter's fault. For some reason, WMP doesn't see the PS3 at all.

Go to your PC and see if the PS3 is registering on it (bring up WMP11).

Do you have an AIM or Messenger account so I can help outside of repeated posting??

[user friendly]

I swear, I can't get this thing to work. When I first installed TVersity and enabled WMP11 sharing I saw both the TVersity server and the WMP server, though it wouldn't play any of the files (even mp3s). Now I can't get it to see anything, not even the WMP, and I've got my Windows firewall OFF and the Norton firewall set to exclude these programs...

EDIT: Now the WMP is showing up even though I didn't search for a server, and it's saying the PS3 isn't registered... Maybe this is because I changed my PS3's name... Who knows what the name was originally?

PS3 I belive was the original name. Just an fyi I was having problems with it not showing any files after I quit out of remote play and it was giving me a message that said now tracks found. I reset the system and it starting working again.

All I installed was WMP11 and enabled the media share and it seems to work great. Although I tried some mp4 files and they wouldnt show up either, only movies I took with my Sony digicam were working.

[CreativeWriter]

Go to your PC and see if the PS3 is registering on it (bring up WMP11).

Do you have an AIM or Messenger account so I can help outside of repeated posting??

Negative. Does yours show up as an unknown device or something? I've just got a big empty box.

[Smokey]

i have found my computer but there are nofiles in anything :(

[woundingchaney]

Negative. Does yours show up as an unknown device or something? I've just got a big empty box.

OK Bring up the WMP11 tab Library go to Media Sharring click the "share my media box" so a device will be listed. The PS3 should come up as "Unknown Device"


You also need to search for the pc through the PS3; have you done this??



---Does the chat on this site work??? I havent used it in ages.

[CreativeWriter]

OK Bring up the WMP11 tab Library go to Media Sharring click the "share my media box" so a device will be listed. The PS3 should come up as "Unknown Device"


You also need to search for the pc through the PS3; have you done this??



---Does the chat on this site work??? I havent used it in ages.

Yeah, done all that and there's nothing... On the PS3 I see the WMP icon, but it says not registered. On WMP there's no "unknown device" to select...

[woundingchaney]

Yeah, done all that and there's nothing... On the PS3 I see the WMP icon, but it says not registered. On WMP there's no "unknown device" to select...

How is your PS3 connected to your network???

You using hard line, wireless, modem router, stand alone router etc??


Perhaps try rebooting both your PS3 and PC, I would reboot the PC first then the PS3.

[CreativeWriter]

How is your PS3 connected to your network???

You using hard line, wireless, modem router, stand alone router etc??

Both the PC and the PS3 are running through a splitter (old school Netgear Ethernet Hub) which then hits the cable modem... I just tried rearranging the ethernet cables into different ports to no avail (since I remember having some trouble a few years ago with cables being right next to each other on the hub)... Already tried restarting. Thanks for the help though. I might need to tackle this problem tomorrow when I'm not so tired.

[Kabbage]

Ok all I need is some better file support!!!

So much Unsupported Data... They should have a filter to keep out the crap the system cant even play.

[woundingchaney]

Both the PC and the PS3 are running through a splitter (old school Netgear Ethernet Hub) which then hits the cable modem... I just tried rearranging the ethernet cables into different ports to no avail (since I remember having some trouble a few years ago with cables being right next to each other on the hub)... Already tried restarting. Thanks for the help though. I might need to tackle this problem tomorrow when I'm not so tired.

Ok this may be important is it a "hub" or a "router".

But yeah man Im off to work sorry we couldnt clear the issue up. If you need help later today hit me on AIM (chaneywounding) or contact me on Messenger.

[CreativeWriter]

It's a Hub, though I can share with other PCs (wife's laptop) that jack into it... and I did, however briefly, get a server connection when I first installed that TVwhatever program (which I have since uninstalled), though WMP never showed the PS3 or any other device in that connections window. The PS3 had a list of all the shared files, but wouldn't play any of them (but at least that rules out the hub as a cause of the failure to connect).

[user friendly]

anyone else notice that the browser is like twice as fast now?

[VG Aficionado]

Hasn't anyone tested the smoothing options yet? And what's the best free software for Windows to enable DLNA?

[VG Aficionado]

Well, obviously you're all very busy enjoying the new update :-p

Stolen from NeoGAF:

Shadow of the Colossus: before (http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r78/wifebeatingproductions2/100_3761.jpg)and after (http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r78/wifebeatingproductions2/100_3760.jpg)

God of War 2: before (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v372/IJoel/gow2_base.jpg)and after (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v372/IJoel/gow2_filt_upscaled2.jpg)

Huge improvement!

[LiquidEagle]

VG, are those "after" with smoothing, upscaling, or both? :-p

[VG Aficionado]

Full list of updates! (google translate from Japanese)


http://www.jp.playstation.com/ps3/update/img/icon_setting.gif
Setting


[In BD/DVD setting] [BD 1080p 24Hz output (HDMI) (http://66.249.91.104/translate_c?hl=en&langpair=ja%7Cen&u=http://www.jp.playstation.com/ps3/update/exp_ver180_2.html#bd_24hz)]It added.
[In display setting] [RGB full range (HDMI) (http://66.249.91.104/translate_c?hl=en&langpair=ja%7Cen&u=http://www.jp.playstation.com/ps3/update/exp_ver180_2.html#rgb_full)]It added.
[In display setting] [Y Pb/Cb Pr/Cr super white (HDMI) (http://66.249.91.104/translate_c?hl=en&langpair=ja%7Cen&u=http://www.jp.playstation.com/ps3/update/exp_ver180_2.html#superwhite)]It added.
[In music setting] [bit mapping (Super Audio CD) (http://66.249.91.104/translate_c?hl=en&langpair=ja%7Cen&u=http://www.jp.playstation.com/ps3/update/exp_ver180_2.html#bitmapping)]It added.
[[The camera test] of peripheral device setting] [was modified in camera equipment setting (http://66.249.91.104/translate_c?hl=en&langpair=ja%7Cen&u=http://www.jp.playstation.com/ps3/update/exp_ver180_2.html#camera_setting)].
[Printer setting (http://66.249.91.104/translate_c?hl=en&langpair=ja%7Cen&u=http://www.jp.playstation.com/ps3/update/exp_ver180_2.html#printer_setting)] was added.
[[Media server connection (http://66.249.91.104/translate_c?hl=en&langpair=ja%7Cen&u=http://www.jp.playstation.com/ps3/update/exp_ver180_2.html#media_server)] was added to network setting].
http://www.jp.playstation.com/ps3/update/img/icon_music.gif
Music


It reached the point where CD information can be compiled (http://66.249.91.104/translate_c?hl=en&langpair=ja%7Cen&u=http://www.jp.playstation.com/ps3/update/exp_ver180_2.html#cddb_edit).
http://www.jp.playstation.com/ps3/update/img/icon_photo.gif
Photo


New indicatory pattern was added in sliding show (http://66.249.91.104/translate_c?hl=en&langpair=ja%7Cen&u=http://www.jp.playstation.com/ps3/update/exp_ver180_2.html#slideshow).
It reached the point where zoom it can indicate the (http://66.249.91.104/translate_c?hl=en&langpair=ja%7Cen&u=http://www.jp.playstation.com/ps3/update/exp_ver180_2.html#photo_zoom) picture.
It reached the point where the picture can be trimmed (http://66.249.91.104/translate_c?hl=en&langpair=ja%7Cen&u=http://www.jp.playstation.com/ps3/update/exp_ver180_2.html#photo_trim).
http://www.jp.playstation.com/ps3/update/img/icon_video.gif
Video


Super white, it corresponded to the output of x.v.Color (http://66.249.91.104/translate_c?hl=en&langpair=ja%7Cen&u=http://www.jp.playstation.com/ps3/update/exp_ver180_2.html#xvcolor).
It corresponded to the down converting output of Blu-ray Disc. When choosing 720p with the image output setting of PS3™, Blu-ray Disc which is recorded with 1080i/1080p can be played back with the resolution of 720p.
http://www.jp.playstation.com/ps3/update/img/icon_game.gif
Game


The saving data of the (http://66.249.91.104/translate_c?hl=en&langpair=ja%7Cen&u=http://www.jp.playstation.com/ps3/update/exp_ver180_2.html#sdata_move) PlayStation® standard software /PlayStation®2 standard software where the copy is prohibited it reached the point where [mubu] it (http://66.249.91.104/translate_c?hl=en&langpair=ja%7Cen&u=http://www.jp.playstation.com/ps3/update/exp_ver180_2.html#sdata_move) is possible in PS3™ (http://66.249.91.104/translate_c?hl=en&langpair=ja%7Cen&u=http://www.jp.playstation.com/ps3/update/exp_ver180_2.html#sdata_move).
http://www.jp.playstation.com/ps3/update/img/icon_network.gif
Network


[Option menu item of management of download (http://66.249.91.104/translate_c?hl=en&langpair=ja%7Cen&u=http://www.jp.playstation.com/ps3/update/exp_ver180_2.html#dlmanage_opt)] was modified.
[I-[huiruta] for PS3™ (http://66.249.91.104/translate_c?hl=en&langpair=ja%7Cen&u=http://www.jp.playstation.com/ps3/update/exp_ver180_2.html#ifilter_ps3)] was added to the book mark of Internet browser.
http://www.jp.playstation.com/ps3/update/img/icon_friend.gif
Friend


[The photo indication (http://66.249.91.104/translate_c?hl=en&langpair=ja%7Cen&u=http://www.jp.playstation.com/ps3/update/exp_ver180_2.html#avchat_photo)] was added to the option menu of the AV kyat. http://www.jp.playstation.com/ps3/update/img/icon_zero.gif
In addition


PlayStation® of the part in PS3™ and operational status of the PlayStation®2 standard software were renewed. < The private search sight (http://66.249.91.104/translate_c?hl=en&langpair=ja%7Cen&u=http://www.jp.playstation.com/ps3/status/) > with you can verify up-to-date operational status.

VG, are those "after" with smoothing, upscaling, or both? :-pI think they applied both, but I can't tell for sure. Stop playing and post pictures, everyone!

[Fats]

Okay, I'm using Twonkyvision (http://www.twonkyvision.com/index.html) for my Mac. While it works, it's far from perfect. It doesn't seem organised and it's not showing the 30 odd GB of music and other stuff that I have.

[Applefiend]

Trying Twonky vision too, having some luck.

Pointing at my itunes xml file didn't work, but I pointed at the base of my iTunes music directory and it all slowly comes up. Nice

It doesn't read wmv, mov and the rest so I've made a special directory to store PS3 compatabile video only. Having luck with that.

[Smokey]

Well, obviously you're all very busy enjoying the new update :-p

Stolen from NeoGAF:

Shadow of the Colossus: before (http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r78/wifebeatingproductions2/100_3761.jpg)and after (http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r78/wifebeatingproductions2/100_3760.jpg)

God of War 2: before (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v372/IJoel/gow2_base.jpg)and after (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v372/IJoel/gow2_filt_upscaled2.jpg)

Huge improvement!

i think the GOW shots are around the wrong way?

[NeoPlayStation]

I found this on NeoGAF:

I got it connected to my Windows Media Center and it not only played many of my videos, but in some cases played them more accurately than my 360. I have a host of videos that are 4:3 but the 360 smooshes them up in a strange way. The PS3 plays them perfectly.

Very cool.

[LiquidEagle]

Nice Avatar, too :-p

[VG Aficionado]

i think the GOW shots are around the wrong way?The guy who took the pictures probably didn't adjust the screen and the camera lens. However, you can appreciate that the jaggies are gone. Just do some tests yourself and see if you notice any improvements. Make a few tests with upscaling / no smoothing, no upscaling / smoothing, upscaling / smoothing and you'll see for yourself.

Someone please tell us what free DLNA apps we can try so that we can see which one works best.

[NeoPlayStation]

heheh Thx :)

And I found this too (already posted?):

PS3 1.8 firmware streams music, photos, and video from Vista
May 23 Carl Nelson

When I woke up this morning, I spotted a PR release from Sony regarding their upcoming 1.8 firmware update. The thing that stood out about this update was that it would allow streaming media to a PSP over the internet. I wrote about that immediately, but until the next firmware arrives for the PSP, we won’t be able to check it out.

The 1.8 firmware arrived for me about an hour ago (being Thursday afternoon in Hong Kong, I guess they are rolling the updates based on local time). I left the firmware to install, and went back to work on some other things.

Then this popped up:

http://www.hardcoreware.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/05/ps3-media-stream-windows.png

Huh? A new media device on my network? Could it be that the PS3’s new support for DLNA works in Vista too?

I ran over to my PS3, and sure enough, there it was. I have Vista set to share my media to the network, so I can watch and listen to it on my HTPC and XBOX 360. Well it turns out I have another choice, and the PS3 supports streaming media from Windows Vista now! A bit of digging around, and I found that Vista supports DLNA after all… I guess I wouldn’t have been shocked had I known this, because it was mentioned in the PR yesterday. Oh well…

If you’re curious, here is what the streaming media interface looks like on the PS3. The more I use the XMB interface, the more I like it. It definitely feels snappier than the clunky XBOX 360 Dashboard. The PS3 uses 175 watts while playing music.

Oh, one thing I have to mention: The Playstation 3 does NOT play lossless WMA files. That screws it up for me, as I have me entire music library backed up in lossless WMA. Hopefully a future update will remedy this.

http://www.hardcoreware.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/05/ps3-media-stream-windows-1.jpg
It even has the Windows logo!

http://www.hardcoreware.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/05/ps3-media-stream-windows-2.jpg
You can list your media by artist, album, composer, etc

http://www.hardcoreware.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/05/ps3-media-stream-windows-3.jpg
This is what it looks like when you play a song

http://www.hardcoreware.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/05/ps3-media-stream-windows-4.jpg
You can even copy media over to the PS3 hard drive

http://www.hardcoreware.net/ps3-18-firmware-streams-music-photos-and-video-from-vista/

[Fats]

Apple, any idea how to get it to recognize your Playlists from iTunes?

[Applefiend]

Had no luck with that so far, just playing music from raw directories.

I'm only playing MPEGs video wise too now, it's not recognising MP4s.

[NickSCFC]

http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.ps3fanboy.com/media/2007/05/game_en.jpg

I take it "SMOOTHING" is for textures?

[GTAce]

I could imagine its the same that the PS2 can do with PS1 games.
Texture mapping stuff or something.

[Fats]

Yeah, it is.

[KiLLA2006]

well, though i only got to play with the new settings for all of three minutes i now wonder what program i can use on windows xp to share files over a wired network... any suggestions?

[TEEDA]

Looks like the upscaling capabilities are good.

[rpgamer_2k5]

It looks like 'smoothing' improves anti-aliasing rather than textures. Yes, it cleans up the game quite nicely, even though it doesn't seem like MSAA. Huge gains in PSX games like Alundra, Chrono Cross, etc, though. :)

[Dralor]

As far as I can tell from the screens as I'm too poor to own a PS# yet. It seems like it's a simple blur filter. So it cleans up both slightly while softening the image and washing out the finer details a bit.

[cliffbo]

well, though i only got to play with the new settings for all of three minutes i now wonder what program i can use on windows xp to share files over a wired network... any suggestions?

i think windows media player 11 will allow it

[Applefiend]

Definately something that 360 does better I think, compare and contrast, 360 vs PS3.

Running TwonkyVision on the Big Mac, serving up my entire iTunes library, let's play some Depeche Mode(Shhh, I'm old), mixed MP3/AAC.

Same server, let's try the 360 and PS3 DNLA clients.

Pic 1
PS3. Poo, most everything unplayable, no nice album listing list, huge mess.

Pic 2
360. Nice album listing, everything, AAC or MP3 playing. I can make playlists and everything.

Pic 3
AAC song playing straight off my Mac.

Paaarp. If this 360 thing could play a Blu Ray and a DIVX I'd have one in the living room in a second.

The odd thing is PS3 supports AAC playback too, maybe this is something TronkyVision can fix.

Aww well, next update, and a transcoding DNLA server that would convert to the PS3s supported formats would totally rock the house. On the fly convert WMV/DIVX to MP4. All very possible.

It's just arrrrgh, so near but so far to popping a PSP out your pocket at Starbucks and surfing your entire music and video collection. AARRRGGGHHHH!!!! :)

[KiLLA2006]

i think windows media player 11 will allow it

hate to be a bother, but how will i get my itunes stuff to work? thats the only place i get music...

EDIT: Is there any other programs?

[VG Aficionado]

I see less jaggies than before and it doesn't seem blurrier, but I don't think the RSX is at work yet applying any kind of AA or AF.

[frosty]

Definately something that 360 does better I think, compare and contrast, 360 vs PS3.

Running TwonkyVision on the Big Mac, serving up my entire iTunes library, let's play some Depeche Mode(Shhh, I'm old), mixed MP3/AAC.

Same server, let's try the 360 and PS3 DNLA clients.

Pic 1
PS3. Poo, most everything unplayable, no nice album listing list, huge mess.

Pic 2
360. Nice album listing, everything, AAC or MP3 playing. I can make playlists and everything.

Pic 3
AAC song playing straight off my Mac.

Paaarp. If this 360 thing could play a Blu Ray and a DIVX I'd have one in the living room in a second.

The odd thing is PS3 supports AAC playback too, maybe this is something TronkyVision can fix.

Aww well, next update, and a transcoding DNLA server that would convert to the PS3s supported formats would totally rock the house. On the fly convert WMV/DIVX to MP4. All very possible.

DLNA is a standard that is supposed to guarantee compatibility with a number of codecs. Divx isn't one, but WMV9 is (as well as mp3, AAC, etc). So, perhaps you should try another program to stream the files?

[Applefiend]

I think the Tronky guys are no doubt going to do a update that may fix AAC, perhaps PS3 isn't getting the correct extension or something. They have specific drivers for 360 including the new update for their server. WMV is going to be something Sony will have to fix at their end I think. Full SPU based codecs for the popular WMV video formats, probably too much to ask. :)

I notice the 360 client will only play WMVs, not even MPGs. Also interesting. :)

[frosty]

Actually, the update notice I received from Sony specifically mentioned WMV9 compatibility. It's part of the standard which Sony must comply to in order to be able to use the DLNA logo on their products.

[BruceWayneIII]

DLNA is a standard that is supposed to guarantee compatibility with a number of codecs. Divx isn't one, but WMV9 is (as well as mp3, AAC, etc). So, perhaps you should try another program to stream the files?

WMV9 is not equired for DLNA, only optional.


DLNA Media Class
Image
Required Format Set = JPEG
Optional Format Set = PNG, GIF, TIFF

Audio
Required Format Set = LPCM
Optional Format Set = AAC, AC-3, ATRAC 3plus, MP3, WMA9

AV
Required Format Set = MPEG2
Optional Format Set = MPEG-1, MPEG-4*, AVC, WMV9


Post #4 in this thread: http://forums.e-mpire.com/showpost.php?p=1539004&postcount=4

[Epix]

What apps are people using for DLNA compliant streaming?

[BruceWayneIII]

What apps are people using for DLNA compliant streaming?

Right now I'm using Windows Media Player to share media files - although I don't use that on my laptop to play music with.

I also use TVersity.

[Epix]

BIG Difference here:

BEFORE:
http://www.cycloneinjapan.com/upload/files/46/ps2-gt4-before1-s.jpg

AFTER:
http://www.cycloneinjapan.com/upload/files/46/ps2-gt4-after1-s.jpg


BEFORE:
http://www.cycloneinjapan.com/upload/files/46/dvd-matrix1-before-s.jpg

AFTER:
http://www.cycloneinjapan.com/upload/files/46/dvd-matrix1-after-s.jpg

[VonGak]

Pic 1
PS3. Poo, most everything unplayable, no nice album listing list, huge mess.

Aww well, next update, and a transcoding DNLA server that would convert to the PS3s supported formats would totally rock the house. On the fly convert WMV/DIVX to MP4. All very possible.


Nero Media Home is the answer you are looking for.

[VG Aficionado]

DVDs look noticeably better!

I'll try TVersity and some DVDs later.

[GTAce]

GT4 too just look at the ground textures at the left side, the white stripe on the road. Cool!

[VG Aficionado]

Both GT4 pics are quite blurry, but I still can see a difference.

[VonGak]

Sorry but your GT4 pictures aren't very sharp, Ragnarok10. :(

[dendj55]

Wow the DVD upscaling is noticeable in the picture above. I can't wait to go home and try this.

[Applefiend]

Nero Media Home is the answer you are looking for.

Ta, that fixes my music dilema but not my video one. I'll keep an eye on that.

Zero joy getting it playing an MP4, if anyone can give me a shout. MPEG1 and 2 play though.

Tried baseline MP4s, AVCs, reduced MP4s, streaming hinted MP4s, lower case extension, upper case extension.... It doesn't like me. :)

[LaLiLuLeLo]

I put in kill bill vol. 2. Woo, nice!

[Epix]

I've read some confirmations that people having been streaming content off their PC HDD through the PS3 to the PSP, and it's smooth as butter.

[VG Aficionado]

I wonder if PSP will become DLNA compliant with 3.50.

[Applefiend]

I have 7 words for you: "God of War 2 on 1.80, Oh S***!!!!".

It's absolutely gorgeous, like a whole new game. Screw starting from where I left off, I'm restarting the game, gotta see all this again.

[VonGak]

Ta, that fixes my music dilema but not my video one. I'll keep an eye on that.

Zero joy getting it playing an MP4, if anyone can give me a shout. MPEG1 and 2 play though.

Tried baseline MP4s, AVCs, reduced MP4s, streaming hinted MP4s, lower case extension, upper case extension.... It doesn't like me. :)

Weird, people at NeoGaf post about them being able to watch DivX, MPG4 and such when using this program to stream.

It's even said to automatically add tumbnails for the videos. :)

EDIT- Some people seem to have had issues because they didn't add video under video and music under music.

Oh well, sorry that I can't be to more help. Would have been nice to have a PS3.

[frosty]

He's using a mac though, could have something to do with it.

[section]

PS2 Black works now. I've been waiting for that one.

Now I only need an HDTV to get upscaled graphics, anyway it looks already better on SDTV :)

[cliffbo]

sorry but the upscaling does very little to improve graphics, so little in fact that you have to be really, really picky

[wotter]

PS2 Black works now. I've been waiting for that one.

Now I only need an HDTV to get upscaled graphics, anyway it looks already better on SDTV :)

Wow, Black works now? That means my entire PS2 library works now on my PS3.

*throws PS2 out of window
*picks it back up because it's the greatest console ever made

[Coded-Dude]

sorry but the upscaling does very little to improve graphics, so little in fact that you have to be really, really picky
O'Rly.....? (http://super.gameshot.net/ps3/zboard/zboard.php?id=ps3_snap&no=867)

:cloud9:

Now I have to go purchase all the PS2 games I didn't buy, solely because I was waiting for this feature!
:farley:

[LaLiLuLeLo]

Cliffbo I thought you didn't even have a PS3?

[Coded-Dude]

you have to go to settings and make adjustments accordingly.
The default "scaling" can be optimized to a noticeable difference.

[Olz]

Don't get too excited wotter, Black was the first game I tried after the update as I have been waiting to play it, and it was a bit of a let down. There isn't anything wrong with the graphics (still PS2 after all) but it is pretty dam glitchy. At some points on the first level I walked near certain objects and suddenly spawned either above or below where I was somewhere else on the level. Very weird. I'll have to try out some other titles to compare.

[woundingchaney]

It's a Hub, though I can share with other PCs (wife's laptop) that jack into it... and I did, however briefly, get a server connection when I first installed that TVwhatever program (which I have since uninstalled), though WMP never showed the PS3 or any other device in that connections window. The PS3 had a list of all the shared files, but wouldn't play any of them (but at least that rules out the hub as a cause of the failure to connect).

Do you have access to a router that you can try this on (I have had similar issues of this nature on a hub). Where as I not sure this is your problem it wouldnt hurt to try in the least.

[BruceWayneIII]

O'Rly.....? (http://super.gameshot.net/ps3/zboard/zboard.php?id=ps3_snap&no=867)

:cloud9:

Now I have to go purchase all the PS2 games I didn't buy, solely because I was waiting for this feature!
:farley:

Nice comparison shots :thumbr:

[Coded-Dude]

Yeah, the onyl thing that makes me sad is; knowing I am only gettign 1080i(and not 1080p) :cry2:

thumbnails:
http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/5364/gowiioldad4.th.jpg (http://img515.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gowiioldad4.jpg)

http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/3264/gowiinewfk7.th.jpg (http://img515.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gowiinewfk7.jpg)

[VG Aficionado]

O'Rly.....? (http://super.gameshot.net/ps3/zboard/zboard.php?id=ps3_snap&no=867)

:cloud9:ZOMFG! :shocked:

[satriales]

I was using my 360 to stream video's from my PC in my room to my TV downstairs. The 360 only plays WMV's though so I use WinAVI to convert them to WMV and the speed and quailty are both pretty good.
ANy way with this new PS3 update it was very easy to set it up, just had to allow the PS3 in WMP11 and then restart the PS3. The thing is the only videos it recognises are a few MPEG2 videos, none of the WMV's show up :(

I'd quite like to use my PS3 for streaming videos instead of the 360 as since the latest 360 update the video playback is not very good (constant pauses between scene changes, audio/video going in and out of sync).
I'm going to try a few other programs and convert some videos into other formats, hopefully I can find something that converts it quick and to a good quality.

[VonGak]

He's using a mac though, could have something to do with it.

LOL, shame on me.

Never thought of him as a fanatic. (j/k)

[VG Aficionado]

From what I can see, the upscaling benefits much, much more the 1080p users. I can see some slight improvements at 720p, but I haven't tried many games yet.

God of War 2 is just amazing, it looks like bullshots! (http://super.gameshot.net/ps3/zboard/zboard.php?id=ps3_snap&no=867)

[Epix]

Post images as attachments, guys. :nono:

[NeoPlayStation]

+rep, Coded-Dude!
The difference is huge!

[BobTheBub]

Check out the new text when you start remote play on the PS3

"When connecting the PSP system over the internet, you must be signed into the PLAYSTATION Network on this PS3, Also, when connecting, you must sign in on the PSP system using the same sign-in ID"

Very interesting, I wonder what else PSN login on PSP will allow?

[cliffbo]

Cliffbo I thought you didn't even have a PS3?

Cliffbo has, but i don't! i have been using Cliffbo's computer for two years now and 99.9% of the posts on this forum are mine. i get to use his PS3 too, but not as often as i would like :(

[cliffbo]

Yeah, the onyl thing that makes me sad is; knowing I am only gettign 1080i(and not 1080p) :cry2:

thumbnails:
http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/5364/gowiioldad4.th.jpg (http://img515.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gowiioldad4.jpg)

http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/3264/gowiinewfk7.th.jpg (http://img515.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gowiinewfk7.jpg)

ye, ones had jaggies, the other is blurry. it's between a rock and a hard place to me

[Coded-Dude]

=-o

[woundingchaney]

Cliffbo has, but i don't! i have been using Cliffbo's computer for two years now and 99.9% of the posts on this forum are mine. i get to use his PS3 too, but not as often as i would like :(

Ok

I have no idea what this means??? What have you done with Cliff??? How many real world people are incorporated in the online Cliffbo entity????




:)

[cliffbo]

Ok

I have no idea what this means??? What have you done with Cliff??? How many real world people are incorporated in the online Cliffbo entity????




:)

LOL... just two, i'm the rhyming sticky guy :)

[curryking1]

OMFGGGG!!!!!!!!! GOW on 1080p is nuts!!!!
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e261/terranz22/FF12comp1.jpg
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e261/terranz22/FF12comp2.jpg

OASEOFASGWEHT!!!!!

PANIC PANIC!!! OMG BEAUTIFUL!!! CAN'T BREATHE!! DYING!! AIIIRRR! NEED AIRR!!!

[cliffbo]

OMFGGGG!!!!!!!!! GOW on 1080p is nuts!!!!
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e261/terranz22/FF12comp1.jpg
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e261/terranz22/FF12comp2.jpg

OASEOFASGWEHT!!!!!

PANIC PANIC!!! OMG BEAUTIFUL!!! CAN'T BREATHE!! DYING!! AIIIRRR! NEED AIRR!!!

what! why aren't i seeing this AWE factor that everyones talking about? am i doing something wrong? yes it's marginally better, but that's it.

edit: how did that happen! you never had those pictures before i posted this. now that looks better... perhaps it depends on what games you use

[curryking1]

It looks like it's like FF XII in rendered in 1080p basically! Look how clear and crisp it is! Big screen FF XII, I need you!

[cliffbo]

It looks like it's like FF XII in rendered in 1080p basically! Look how clear and crisp it is! Big screen FF XII, I need you!

what setting is that on?

[GTAce]

I find the difference pretty huge. But thats maybe my fanboyish happiness because of the FW update! :laugh:

[Sephiroth_VII]

Nero Media Home is the answer you are looking for.

Thanks for that advice, already installed with Nero Ultra Edition 7, and works great!! :hugegrin:

EDIT: FFXII, OMFG!!

[Segitz]

Man, the WMP 11 (Vista 64 Buisness) is crap...

It doesnt want to register any MP4 videos (although you can force it to play them), renaming them to mpg/mpg2/mpeg/avc does not cut it (PS3 then says, file is corrupted, tried PSN videos!).

I will try the Nero Media thing shortly^^ Thank god this software is always included with dvd burners :D

[curryking1]

Someone! Quick! Please play SOTC, MGS3, GTA SA!!! Please please please please please please please!!!!!!!!! And take pretty pictures!!! This makes me want a PS3 like now lol! I was thinking to wait more... but I'm not sure I can resist! Maybe later in the summer now lol.

But I don't have an HDTV... so that kind of cancels it out.... Hrmm...

Anyways! Take pics please! I want to see glorious PS2 games in more glory than ever before lol.

[aclar00]

Slightly off topic, but is there going to be PSN update today? Oh and is there anyway you can setup a direct connection between your PS3 and computer as opposed to having to be connected through a internet connected network

[VonGak]

Check out the new text when you start remote play on the PS3

"When connecting the PSP system over the internet, you must be signed into the PLAYSTATION Network on this PS3, Also, when connecting, you must sign in on the PSP system using the same sign-in ID"

Very interesting, I wonder what else PSN login on PSP will allow?

Home interactivity. :D

Oh maybe some nifty things like ex.

- tuning one's cars for GT5 with ones friends at school/work/daycare

- Showing overviews of one's levels in LittleBigPlanet

- Designing the look of one's Warhawk

- Buying music and videos for SingStar

The possibilities are endless.

[dockthepod]

Someone! Quick! Please play SOTC, MGS3, GTA SA!!! Please please please please please please please!!!!!!!!! And take pretty pictures!!! This makes me want a PS3 like now lol! I was thinking to wait more... but I'm not sure I can resist! Maybe later in the summer now lol.

But I don't have an HDTV... so that kind of cancels it out.... Hrmm...

Anyways! Take pics please! I want to see glorious PS2 games in more glory than ever before lol.

I tried out SOTC and SA. I did an A/B with SA. The difference wasn't huge to me, but my TV has a really good scaler in it already (XBR910). I thought SOTC looked really good though, but maybe that's just how that game rolls in general ;)

I also tried out GT4 and I wasn't too happy with the results. It wasn't a very fair comparison though because I was comparing with the built in 1080i rendering mode :)

[NeoPlayStation]

More comparison (http://www.gameswank.com/content/view/116/1/).

[BruceWayneIII]

Thanks for that advice, already installed with Nero Ultra Edition 7, and works great!! :hugegrin:

EDIT: FFXII, OMFG!!

I can't get any video to work with Nero...

Does it show the Nero logo on your PS3?

[jako]

Sorry to ask this but how does the DNLA woks please ?
I dowloaded TVersity on my computer.... and what do I have to do ?
I can't see nothing on my PS3 (no seveur found)

Please help.

[user friendly]

More comparison (http://www.gameswank.com/content/view/116/1/).

Sweet, those are great comparisons!!

[Coded-Dude]

Sorry to ask this but how does the DNLA woks please ?
I dowloaded TVersity on my computer.... and what do I have to do ?
I can't see nothing on my PS3 (no seveur found)

Please help.

The internet is your friend... (http://www.dlna.org/en/industry/home/) ;)

[VonGak]

Sorry to ask this but how does the DNLA woks please ?
I dowloaded TVersity on my computer.... and what do I have to do ?
I can't see nothing on my PS3 (no seveur found)

Please help.

Perhaps this (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=6521059&postcount=1774) can help you.

[Segitz]

Theres also something new in the background downloader windows in this firmware.

You can now pause downloads yourself and the swirly icon (which also appears when opening the store and such) indicates a running dl.

So I tried the Nero Home server and I must say... I sucks!

First, NO OTHER codec than mpeg1 works (ugh) and many videos, although my pc plays them transcoded, have problems on the ps3 (ask a ninja podcast for instance)

I hope dickydick1969 (of the PiMPStreamer fame) releases a dlna server for the PS3!! That would be too awesome!

[Applefiend]

I'm mostly miffed at MPEG2/1 getting used as the transport medium really. MPEG2 needs about 1GB for 29 minutes for SDTV video, that'll make my wireless network buckle.

But you know, good update, even better when they work out the kinks.

[user friendly]

I'm mostly miffed at MPEG2/1 getting used as the transport medium really. MPEG2 needs about 1GB for 29 minutes for SDTV video, that'll make my wireless network buckle.

But you know, good update, even better when they work out the kinks.

You can use the DNLS feature through a wired connection, unless your only option is for wireless.

I noticed a few videos running pretty choppy and then changed the connection type and it works smoothly now.