Better Video output with 1.8

[edofall]

Go under the Display settings and choose the new SuperWhite and Full Range HDMI setting to get a significant boost in video outputs....OMG its sexy

[chartwel]

thanks. this made my set look better, although now i have to go and recalibrate with this new stuff activated. oh well.

[Segitz]

Should have postet it in the "official" 1.8 update thread...

But the "full range hdmi" looks wicked!! But super white? Didnt find that yet!

Edit:

Found it^^

Works with my cheapo Samsung tv :D

[VG Aficionado]

I didn't expect that =-o

[Segitz]

Me neither, thats why I was also surprised^^

Got the LE32T51B (PAL version)... Nothing special, but does its job well

[dendj55]

Is there an explanation on what these two features are actually doing to improve viewing?

[frosty]

They use a different color profile than standard HDMI, allowing for a richer, truer color reproduction. Full range probably takes advantage of the 48 bit deep color HDMI 1.3 allows.

[Sephiroth_VII]

Nice!!! Made Motorstorm look even more amazing :cloud9:

[Segitz]

They use a different color profile than standard HDMI, allowing for a richer, truer color reproduction. Full range probably takes advantage of the 48 bit deep color HDMI 1.3 allows.

If I understood the stuff on the AVS forums correctly, it is not deep color.

They said, the full range RGB just uses 0-255 instead of studio 13-242 (or something) colors. So a black was more grey if your tv didnt understand it (mine had this problem!! Now it is fixed.

The super white is something different though, and I dont notice a real difference.

[woundingchaney]

Pretty much what I got from AVS as well, though the difference is dramatic. Nearly every game I play now has the rich vibrant colors instead of the more washed out appearance that they previously had. Definetely a very solid addition.

[Segitz]

Pretty much what I got from AVS as well, though the difference is dramatic. Nearly every game I play now has the rich vibrant colors instead of the more washed out appearance that they previously had. Definetely a very solid addition.

Someone should check Call of Duty 3.

The 360 comparisons always were washed out on the PS3, maybe this fixed this issue.

I am still to try MS with these new features!

[woundingchaney]

Someone should check Call of Duty 3.

The 360 comparisons always were washed out on the PS3, maybe this fixed this issue.

I am still to try MS with these new features!

I dont have COD3 (anymore), but Res. was noticeably richer.

The difference in pics is very noticeable as well.

[amuront]

Just want to make sure that people understand what the RGB Full Range actually does and not blindly use it.

Actually the explanation will be done by andrewfee from neogaf instead of me :P
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=158082&page=29
It's nothing to do with "deep colour" - televisions expect to work with a range of 16-235 from black to white. Monitors use 0-255.

Full range is 0-255, and "limited" range is 16-235. If a TV is doing what it should be, limited is the correct option.

If your display has the option to choose between "PC" levels (full range) and "Video" levels, then you would want 0-255 for both. If you're using full range on a display that does not expect full range over HDMI, you then completely lose shadow details, as pictured above.
Here's a test for people to see whether or not their display supports the new full range option or not.

First, save this image, and put it on a memory card or something so that you can view it on the PS3:

http://sr-388.net/images/patterns/Brightness.jpg

With the option set to limited, adjust the brightness control on your TV until you can see most/all of the boxes. There are 12 boxes there, but you might not be able to see them all. You should hopefully be able to see at least 9/10 of them.

Now switch it over to Full range. Can you still see all the boxes? It's very likely that you will only see a full black screen now if you're using a HDTV rather than a DVI monitor.

If you can turn up the brightness control and see the same number of boxes again, then it seems your display does support the full range. If it stays black, or you can't see as many boxes as before, your TV does not support the full range option and you should be using limited.

Most HDTVs should have it set to limited.
Limited range exists because the majority of displays are expecting the limited range over HDMI. Full range is really for DVI/HDMI equipped monitors rather than televisions, and not something people should enable blindly.

For this comparison, I maxed out my TV's brightness control, just to make the difference clear.

Limited range HDMI - what a television expects:
http://sr-388.net/images/gaming/ps3/resistance/limited-range.jpg

Full range HDMI:
http://sr-388.net/images/gaming/ps3/resistance/full-range.jpg

Shadow details are totally lost, and even maxing out the brightness can't bring them back.

Both photos were exposed exactly the same.

At the end, you can choose whatever option that you think is the best as long as you know what you are doing.

[Smokey]

my plasma only supports PC levels/input on RGB/D-SUB input. but when i change to HDMI 2 on me plasma it pops up DVI underneath it every so often??

[dendj55]

Resistance was noticeably richer in color when I changed the option.

[Nameless]

^^^ Great post...
My television supports Full color RGB, but I had to make some adjustments to the brightness thanks to the jpg provided. I notice that lighting effects look significantly better with the broader color range; HDR looks significantly better. I played Motorstorm after the changes and there's a significant improvement! Honestly all games look better if your television supports the new modes...

[BruceWayneIII]

^Nameless, what television do you own?

[Nameless]

Samsung LN-T5265

http://product.samsung.com/campaign/index_en_US.html?language=en_US# (http://http://product.samsung.com/campaign/index_en_US.html?language=en_US#)

[Segitz]

So, I tried above pic and howto from GAF and I can confirm...

MY cheapo Samsung supports BTB^^ I am shocked by it... It doesnt even support PIP when using DVI (my mother got the successor of my TV and it can do it) and what not not, but this, it does support and it makes Motorstorms HDR effects MUCH richer!

[Nameless]

^ Agreed!
The lighting effects in GTHD are off the charts after the setting change!!

[gnznroses]

well, i turned it on and i think it did to mine what it did to Resistance in those screens. washed out the shadow detail with too much darkness.

[Segitz]

Hm, I cant tell, but my blacks are still having as much detail as before, but the contrast is higher.

Either those RFOM pics are from a TV that doesnt support full range or RFOM doesnt scale well

[Nameless]

^ Make sure you test with the brightness jpg after switching to full range.
Go back a few pages to find the link for the picture.
RFOM looks better on my display with full range enabled, but remember not every display properly supports this feature. If your display does not properly support full range you will lose black details and have contrast issues...

[gnznroses]

i was under the impression it does not matter waht set you have, that it ony shifts the color values internally. different story for the tru-white thing tho