Most UNDERRATED/OVERRATED video games...

[ScratchedAt]

Name a few video games that were WAY underrated.. and deserved a little more credit than they got.

What about the ones that were overrated?

Try mostly classic consoles, SNES, NES, GENESIS, N64.. even Dreamcast.


Underrated-
NES - Crystalis was vastly underrated. And the Gameboy port made it suck hardcore.
SNES - On The Ball was fun as hell, and still blows Monkey Ball away. Look it up.. interesting game.. or get the ROM.


Overrated-
Ice Climbers is suddenly this "Oh! 1337! Super Smash Bros. came out and now Ice Climbers is cool!". Personally, I think the game sucks.

Excite Bike... another game that was never really that great. Making your own levels was kind of nice.. but it wasn't and isn't that impressive. On a list, It wouldn't be in the top 50 in my book.



Hmn... well?

[Boggy700]

Underrated:

Marble Madness (NES and others)
Classic ball-rolling game.

Psychonauts (PC and a console or two)
Another wonderful experience from Tim Schafer, creator of Grim Fandango and Day Of The Tentacle.


Overrated:

Halo
Bland.

[masteratt]

Underrated
Cold Winter (PS2)- One of the finest and most violent FPS games. Especially ranks high on a PS2. To top it off, it has an awesome story too.

The Warriors (PS2/ Xbox)- I thought the name would sell it, but maybe people thought it was crap because it was a movie tie-in.
On the contrary, it's the best fighting/ adventure game ever.

Broken Sword series (PC)- Seriously guys, as good as Monkey Island (well, almost). Start from the point and click ones. Actually this series might not be TOO underrated as later ones sold not bad.

Largo Winch: Empire Under Thread (PS2/ PC)- One of the best adventure/ puzzle games I've played. It had everything (even sexy time).

Overrated:
Well...obvious ones...

Halo- Yep, simply bland.
It's simply good marketing by Microsoft.

Gears Of War- Okay it was good (i completed it) but it was nowhere near as "OMG I JUST SHAT MY PANTS!" good as people made it.
Again, simply good marketing by Microsoft.

I don't think games get overrated in our negative coverage system of media.
Except for those two where money is the main subject and perhaps few free laptops.

[masonite]

underrated: system shock 2. A great fps, that managed to mix horror with sci fi successfully. a very tense game.


overrated: everyone's said it, but halo 2 (the only one i've played). its great in multiplayer, but it hardly moves the genre. other fps's that came out around the same time (or even before) made it look dated.

[TheGreenElf]

Halo is a great game. Maybe not the ultimate game like everyone claims, but it is great.

Underrated- (Starting with most recently played)

SSX Blur (Wii)- Extreme racing/snowboarding perfection thanks to the Wii-mote.

Killer 7 (GC)- So refreshingly different. One case where style before gameplay worked well.

Goblin Commander: Unleash the Horde (GC)- Best console RTS ever...coming from a person who loves all RTS games (console or pc).

Battlefield 2 (PS2)- What can I say? Halo-like controls and I had a blast.

Overrated

God of War (PS2)- Combat is fluent and fun and presentation is unrivaled. Puzzles, however, are insultingly easy and the "adventuring" is about as deep as deep as a belly button.

Any Warioware game.- Waste of 2 minutes of life for each. (Twisted was mildly entertaining)

Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess- It's good, but not near the best Zelda ever...Most unoriginal? Ok. Most uninspired? Sure. Best? Not hardly.

[curryking1]

I heard of that Cold Winter, I remember watching lots of gameplay vids for it. Maybe I'll pick it up when I get the chance lol.

FF VIII and IX are pretty underrated for how ****ing amazing they are. They are highly regarded, but they deserve more.

STALKER seems underrated, people should seriously try it out.

[Xer0]

Underrated-Mischief Makers;
Cant wait till it comes out on VC so i can "Shake shake!" again

Overrated-Gears of War;
Yay, your pretty, and?

[yoshaw]

Under Rated:
Okami
ICO
Psychonauts
Black

Over Rated
Brainage games
Halo 1 & 2
Half Life 2 Episodes (not the 2nd game, the Episodes only)

[Phoenix]

Underrated: Luigi's Mansion, Okami, Tales of Symphonia, Snowboard Kids series (not the DS)
Overrated: Halo, Super Mario Land, the Grand Theft Auto series, Super Paper Mario, Final Fantasy II (the real II,) Donkey Kong

[curryking1]

GTA is not overrated! :mad:

Lol I don't think it's that overrated, but anyways... just playing around lol.

[<3frosty]

Underrated: Jet Force Gemini, Star Wars: Shadows of the Empire. <<Loved those games to DEATH.

Overrated: Didnt find Shadow of the Colossus all that great.

[curryking1]

WUT!

SOTC!? I keel you! lol

[Boggy700]

Underrated: Snowboard Kids series (not the DS)
Oh yeah!
I love the first game and also the second, less so, though only slightly less.

Underrated: Jet Force Gemini
Absolutely!
It's in my all time top ten favorite games, as I listed in that thread where I did that there.


I also feel that XIII is somewhat underrated, in all it's cel-shaded comic-book coolness.

[<3frosty]

WUT!

SOTC!? I keel you! lol

The story was pretty blah. Kill Colossi, and go back to your temple. Kill more Colossi, and repeat. What a great way to unfold a plot. :|

Also, the controls kinda sucked. Bad.

[Fats]

Overrated : Halo, Gears... Do consoles count? :)

Underrated : Psycho Pinball on the Megadrive. Loved it! :)

[<3frosty]

Overrated : Halo, Gears... Do consoles count? :)

Underrated : Psycho Pinball on the Megadrive. Loved it! :)

I wonder for all of those who say Gears is overrated, if they played it online. Within the first month the game was out. Smacking noobs with sticky grenades and blowing them up was quite possibly the best experience i have had online in quite some time. Rivaled that of Socom pre-code breaker.

[TheGreenElf]

I think that most people who are saying Gears and Halo are overrated have never played them for more than 10 minutes, considering what their systems of choice are, anyway. I see where you lurk... ;)

[Phoenix]

I've never played Gears of War, so I made no comments on it. I have a decent amount of Halo experience, and from what I see it's a pretty fun shooter but it has nothing outstanding about it.

[masteratt]

I completed Halo 1 and played a lot of Halo 2 single player.
Completed Gears Of War.

So I can't be blamed for those accusations.

[Applefiend]

Over rated: Oblivion(follow a hundred different paths, all boring), Halo 2(1 was good), The Sega Dreamcast. Three things that have religious cults around them but really, nothing that special.

Name a great series around today that started on the Sega Dreamcast.

Mobile phone gaming... Or rather trying to make action games on mobile.

Under rated:

Probably most really good PC games, and MMORPGs. People don't think of Lineage 2 or Eve online when they think of killer AAA games...

Games from the wrong side of the tracks. If Zuma came from Taito it would be a classic but PopCap did it.

Quiz games. They're fun, work different brain muscles than action games, and the would be really great online. Who's working on one for PS Net or XB Live? nooobody. Who wants to win a million marketplace points. How about that every week. Be fab.

[Fillibuster]

I'm surprised that so many people feel Halo 1 is so overrated (Halo 2 blows). Yes the single player is lacking, but I would say that some of the most fun I've ever had with videogames have been at Halo LAN parties. The multi just can't be beat.

Cold Winter is excellent. I got it for $20 brand new at Gamestop when it was $40 at Best Buy across the street. Very fun, and definitely underrated. Had decent multiplayer as well.

I don't necessarily think that Gears is overrated perse, but it is surely a victim of the hype machine. When MS wants to sell a game, they make it come off as the second coming of Christ; which Gears most definitely is not. But it is very fun online (even though I suck ass at it...)

[Applefiend]

Halo 1 friggin' rawks...

[Hisham]

Okay I know I'm going to get masscred for this, but I truly think Crono Trigger was overrated. I also say Final Fantasy X was overrated aswell.

As for underrated, there are a lot of games. Viewtiful Joe, Okami, Disgaea, Skies of Arcadia and Shin Megami Tensi: Nocturn are the ones that come to my mind right away..

[<3frosty]

I'm surprised that so many people feel Halo 1 is so overrated (Halo 2 blows). Yes the single player is lacking, but I would say that some of the most fun I've ever had with videogames have been at Halo LAN parties. The multi just can't be beat.


I have never been to a Halo LAN party, and dont really ever plan on being apart of one. Additionally, not a WHOLE lot of people had Xboxes considering they only sold roughly 25 million consoles.

Now, im sure its great fun, but you cant fault people for not playing it this way compared to playing Halo 2 online. And playing with 4 buddies on one console, ALL online, is a blast.

[curryking1]

Okay I know I'm going to get masscred for this, but I truly think Crono Trigger was overrated.

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**** YOU!

Lol!

[The Dude]

Underrated 25% of the Gamecube's library.

Overrated All the Grand Theft Autos except for III, World of Warcraft


Used to be underrated now overrated Ico, SOTC, Okami.

[Hisham]

How is Okami now overrated? I still barely see anyone giving it the props it deserves.

I just want to know your opinion on this.

[Phoenix]

I think he means that so many people talk about how it's so underrated that it's actually getting more credit than it honestly deserves.

I don't think it's getting that much credit, personally.

[The Dude]

How is Okami now overrated? I still barely see anyone giving it the props it deserves.

I just want to know your opinion on this.

I only see people giving it praise infact I can't find a review that doesn't give this game a big sloppy blow job. It pretty much rips off Wind Waker. Nearly same gameplay mechanics, and cel-shaded graphics. It's a good game but still overrated.

[Freeman_JI]

UnderRated:
Psychonauts; Xbox
PanzarDragoon Orta; Xbox
ICO; PS2
Shenmue; Dreamcast
The Story Of Thor II; SegaSaturn
Snatcher: Sega CD (or more a case of an unknown game due to the shittiness of the platform)

OverRated:
GTA:SA; MultiPlatfrom
FFX; PS2
Need For Speed, 4 and Up; Multiplatform
Halo 2; Xbox
Zelda TP; GCN
ANY and ALL MARIO SPIN OFFS; Nintendo (excuse mario-kart)

[curryking1]

FF X is overrated? From what I know, not that many people like it as the others.

[Freeman_JI]

FF X is overrated? From what I know, not that many people like it as the others.

The game for all intents and purposes was terrible, I think that because it was the first next gen Final Fantasy that people got so swept up in the hype for it. (the previous PSX titles were genuine great classics) When I played this so called modern masterpiece I could'nt believe that everyone had Parkinson’s disease. And serriously WTF the lead character was a flaming homosexual.

And then there is X2 I haven't play it but even this game gets nothing but bad rep for all but the most diehard FF fans.

[curryking1]

I thought that's basically what everyone thought of it compared to the others, that's why I said that lol. It was ok for an RPG, but not very amazing on PSX FF standards. I thought that was the general consensus lol.

I recently played it though. Before like 2 days ago, I hadn't touched this game in... so many years... like almost 3 maybe hahah. Graphics are nice, Bahamut pwns all hahahah. Played my friends file... his characters sucked! I had to level them for him, because he was so terrible at it, so we could beat the last boss. Wanted to see the ending again, second time seeing it lol :P

Every time I think back on it though... it was a good game. Can't call it the best of anything, but I dunno lol, something about it... has a nice charm to it to me lol.

Err... excuse me while I bask in my flourescent light and reminiscence about FF X in the whatever good it brought to the table I can remember lol. Ahhhh.... Nice wallpaper you make Tidus lol.

But ahem.. back to this thread.... lol. Ya, definitely not super amazing, but I didn't think it's very highly regarded anyway. I think whatever credit it gets, it deserves for being just a solid game. It's certainly not getting as much love as VII or VIII or IX for sure.

I'm gathering this from some friends I have who also really like FF. They also highly regard the PSX games, and when they look at X they place it in a category below the PSX titles like myself lol.

[HPK]

Overrated:
Final Fantasy VII
Halo (series)

Underrated:
Final Fantasy VIII
Ratchet & Clank
Chrono Cross

[Applefiend]

That "wibble wibble wibble" Star Fox talk in Okami gets on my nerves. Haven't played through enough of Okami to judge it yet though.

Right, see if I can upset someone. :)

Overrated:

PGR after 1. Stop remaking the same sodding Dreamcast game with better gfx already.

Pokemon... The cartoon. The game is fine but the cartoon is total sh*t*. Gives Japanese animation a bad name. Awful.

3D gaming. Why must evvvverything be 3D or cell shaded. How about packing a game full of beautiful hand drawn artwork. How about packing every 4th of 5th game with awesome 2D artwork.

Crysis. Beautiful engine, but take that away and it'll just be a lame really un innovative shooter. Please don't be dumb enough to blow $2,000 on a new motherboard, cpu and gpu to play this.... Ultimate gfx whore game. Don't be a graphics whore...

[TheGreenElf]

Additionally, not a WHOLE lot of people had Xboxes considering they only sold roughly 25 million consoles.

25 million is no small number. Next to the PS2 numbers, maybe, but compared to most game consoles ever produced, 25 million is a lot.

[Hisham]

I only see people giving it praise infact I can't find a review that doesn't give this game a big sloppy blow job. It pretty much rips off Wind Waker. Nearly same gameplay mechanics, and cel-shaded graphics. It's a good game but still overrated.

Near same gameplay mecanics? WTF? The brush was a whole lot better than anything Wind Waker had going for it. And cel-shading? If you wanna say that, then Wind Waker must have copied Jet Grind Radio, or another game which was cel-shaded before Wind Waker.

And if anything, Zelda TP borrowed from Okami with the whole wolf mechanic.

I'd say if anything, Okami is more underrated than Wind Waker, even though they are both underrated games (I can't say about Twilight Princess since I haven't played it all yet.)

And how can it really be overrated, when Clover Studios was forced to shut down because of lackluster sales of this game, as well as Viewtiful Joe/VJ2 and other good games.

I know it is a Zelda clone, but it still doesn't owe SO much to Zelda that it is dwarfed by it. To me it is a clone which surpasses most Zelda games I have played.

[bobo_ess]

Underrated

Jet Force Gemini (GOD what a good game)

Figher's destiny, second one not so much

Eternal Darkness

Tales of symphonia

Power Stone

Overrated
can't think of any

[Hisham]

Yeah powerstone, that game was the shit.

Same with a whole bunch of other dreamcast classics like Garou: Mark of the Wolves, Tech Romancer, Project Justice, Ikaruga, ect.

I also think Street Fighter 3rd Strike doesn't get enough credit, as it probably the most strategic 2D fighter, and it is still the most fluid 2D fighter.

[Phoenix]

Both Twilight Princess and Okami had the wolf stuff planned before the other released any info I think.

[<3frosty]

25 million is no small number. Next to the PS2 numbers, maybe, but compared to most game consoles ever produced, 25 million is a lot.

I realize that, especially since the Xbox catered to mostly western tastes and ended up selling the bulk of their systems here. At the same time, i know alot of people that dont have Xboxes or didnt have one. The point was that this game cant suddenly become underrated because of the fact that a method of play that alot of people can't readily enjoy was in fact enjoyable.

[Sbrother]

Underrratted
Earthbound (SNES)
Legend of Zelda: Windwaker (GC)
SSX:Blur (Wii)
RedSteel (Wii)

Overrated
Halo (PS2)
Gears Of War (360)

[Phoenix]

I don't think there are many people who don't like Earthbound...

[GTAce]

And i dont think that there are many people who find the PS2 version of Halo overrated. :-p

My list:

Or: Burnout Revenge, True Crime (1&2), Far Cry (gameplay wise it was just not THAT awesome), Counter Strike 1.6 & Source, Two Worlds, Diablo 2 and some more.

Ur: Driver 4... uhm i think im going to update that list soon lol.

[Phoenix]

And i dont think that there are many people who find the PS2 version of Halo overrated. :-pBecause it's like the best game ever. Much better than the Dreamcast version.

[Sbrother]

I don't think there are many people who don't like Earthbound...

I don't think there are many people who have played Earthbound...

[curryking1]

Ya... I think Earthbound deserves more love! It's too freaking awesome. Looks effing sexy on an emulator and AA, wow... I'm gonna play it 2moro! :)

[TheGreenElf]

Near same gameplay mecanics? WTF? The brush was a whole lot better than anything Wind Waker had going for it. And cel-shading? If you wanna say that, then Wind Waker must have copied Jet Grind Radio, or another game which was cel-shaded before Wind Waker.

And if anything, Zelda TP borrowed from Okami with the whole wolf mechanic.

I'd say if anything, Okami is more underrated than Wind Waker, even though they are both underrated games (I can't say about Twilight Princess since I haven't played it all yet.)

And how can it really be overrated, when Clover Studios was forced to shut down because of lackluster sales of this game, as well as Viewtiful Joe/VJ2 and other good games.

I know it is a Zelda clone, but it still doesn't owe SO much to Zelda that it is dwarfed by it. To me it is a clone which surpasses most Zelda games I have played.

Twilight Princess was in development over 4 years and one of the first things revealed was the wolf mechanics, so even though it released later, it was in the works much longer than Okami. As for better game, both Wind Waker and Okami have a lot of similarities. I don't think many games are better than Wind Waker, though. Just my opinion though...but I think the wolf sucked for the most part in TP.

[TheGreenElf]

I realize that, especially since the Xbox catered to mostly western tastes and ended up selling the bulk of their systems here. At the same time, i know alot of people that dont have Xboxes or didnt have one. The point was that this game cant suddenly become underrated because of the fact that a method of play that alot of people can't readily enjoy was in fact enjoyable.

Ah, understood. I do agree with that, I was just making sure you didn't belittle the sales numbers there.

[Shadow Voa]

Underrated:
Chrono Cross (cant stress this one enough!!! It is a shadow to its amazing brother Trigger but it stands alone as an amazing title in the Chrono series)
Killer 7 (Suda 51 took what we knew about shooters and flipped us off giving us something completely original and it was amazing!!)
Fire Emblem series (these are top quality games that are only now being seen as more then Smash Bros characters.)


Overrated:
FF7, Halo 2, God of War 1 & 2, Ratchet and Clank, Metroid Prime. There's quite a few more but those titles stand out in my mind as the games I think got too much hype and didnt deliver for me. I played them either till the end with an unchanged opinion or couldnt stand to even hold the controller any longer.

[yoshaw]

I'm reading this thread in disbelief. Like why are there people getting agitated over others choices n want reasons for it? I mean why even discuss another's choice or a specific games ordeal. The thread asks for ones view over the subject. Why the questioning n finger pointing then? Let it be just that, ones viewpoint on overrated/underrated games n no more.

I don't believe I owe anyone an explanation for what I consider overrated or underrated. I have my 17 years of gaming behind me to decide so let everyone have their say rather than indirect jabbing at others choices because of their platform liking. No offense meant to anyone.

[Sbrother]

^The forums have arguing all the time, thats what makes them so fun to be part of.

[Boggy700]

I mean why even discuss another's choice or a specific games ordeal.
Because this is a discussion board.

The thread asks for ones view over the subject. Why the questioning n finger pointing then? Let it be just that, ones viewpoint on overrated/underrated games n no more.
Sure, we could do nothing more than respond the topic and state our opinions, but what would be the point of communication if we are not to take other people's opinions into consideration?
Conflict is what makes life interesting.
Case in point, this reply.
I had very little to say in this thread until your views conflicted with my own.
Now I'm interested and communicating.

I don't believe I owe anyone an explanation for what I consider overrated or underrated. I have my 17 years of gaming behind me to decide so let everyone have their say rather than indirect jabbing at others choices because of their platform liking. No offense meant to anyone.
While I feel the same way, I also think that some people might be interested in the reasoning behind some of the choices here.

[HPK]

Like why are there people getting agitated over others choices n want reasons for it? I mean why even discuss another's choice or a specific games ordeal.

As Boggy said: it's a discussion board, where discussing occurs.

And I am curious as to why people believe x-game is under/over rated. I didn't list my reasons, though. If someone wants me to further elaborate on my selection of games, they'll do so. It's the fun thing about a discussion, you can say as much or as little as you want, and there's nothing wrong with either choice.

[yoshaw]

Go to a bar for discussions!!! lol

Jesus, everyone is so concentrated on that one aspect that its ridiculously hilarious . That wasn't my only point. It was the jibes from the agitated that was the main concern. Anyways, keep the discussion or whatever you all want, I'm not against that. Ended up agitating you lot for sounding anti-discussion protestor or something,lol, Sheesh.

Get off my back now! All of you :)

[Boggy700]

Jesus, everyone is so concentrated on that one aspect that its ridiculously hilarious . That wasn't my only point. It was the jibes from the agitated that was the main concern.
I didn't mention that point because I had nothing to add.
I don't see why people would get upset about other peoples opinions (ever) either.
One person's opinion is just that. One person's opinion.

Maybe I've just been ignorant regarding a lot of what's been said in this thread, but I haven't noticed any significant agitation from disagreeing parties.

But yes, I share your sentiments on this point.

[Teh Roxor!]

Underrated:
Secret of Evermore (SNES) - I think this game was better than Secret of Mana in many ways, but it seems to receive a lot of negative criticism and it sold very poorly.

Timesplitters: Future Perfect (XBOX PS2 GCN) - Easily my favorite FPS of last generation. So much variety, and I loved the map maker.

Zelda II: Adventures of Link (NES) - Many people disliked it's departure from the overhead view of Zelda, but I loved it.

Overrated:
Final Fantasy 7 (PSX) - I found this game painful to play through and the characters were very unappealing.

Katamari Damacy (PS2) - It was interesting at first, but after the initial novelty wore off it became very boring.

[Hisham]

Go to a bar for discussions!!! lol

Jesus, everyone is so concentrated on that one aspect that its ridiculously hilarious . That wasn't my only point. It was the jibes from the agitated that was the main concern. Anyways, keep the discussion or whatever you all want, I'm not against that. Ended up agitating you lot for sounding anti-discussion protestor or something,lol, Sheesh.

Get off my back now! All of you :)

Haha if you are talking about me, it is because I like my opinion to be known. If it seems like I'm comming off as a jackass, then I'm sorry. I really just want a cilivized conversation.

Twilight Princess was in development over 4 years and one of the first things revealed was the wolf mechanics, so even though it released later, it was in the works much longer than Okami. As for better game, both Wind Waker and Okami have a lot of similarities. I don't think many games are better than Wind Waker, though. Just my opinion though...but I think the wolf sucked for the most part in TP.

Umm, no. Okami was in development for a long amount of time, and the wolf mecanic was know before Twilight Princess. It is just because Zelda got so much more publicity than anything Clover Studio could put out. If you had paid attention to the game from the moment it was annouced, you would have known.

Here is how I see people like you looking at it, except knowing that it was the one who orginally had the wolf idea:

ALSO BEING RELEASED TOMORROW IS OKAMI

It's a game about wolf. I was interested in this game because of the art style until it was revealed that the new Zelda will also have a wolf in it. Somehow, in Zelda -- announced AFTER Okami -- the wolf seems more original, and Okami looks cheap.

Oh, I'm being picky. If you're interested in the game, you'll love it. It's by Atsushi Inaba, who made Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney and Viewtiful Joe; he is a super-man of game design, along with his brother Keiji Inafune. Capcom is releasing stellar titles by the ice-cream-scooper these days. This one won't sell as well in Japan as it will in America, however. Oh no, it's too "Japanese" for that.

My game impressions so far are: it controls well, it looks gorgeous, the write-on-the-screen-with-the-ink-brush mechanic is kind of corny, and the voices are hellaciously weird. Like, think Animal Crossing Meets Killer 7. In fact, that's pretty much the game's tone. If that wording -- "Animal Crossing Meets Killer 7" -- sounds interesting to you, please anticipate this game.

And here's some good trivia for you. The title of the game, "Okami," spelled out phonetically in Japanese is "Ookami," with a long "O." "Ookami" means "wolf," though with the Chinese characters used to represent it on the game's box, "Oo" means "Big" or "great" and "Kami" means "God" or "divine being." So the hero of the game is a "Great Divine Being," who also happens to be a Wolf. Clever! We should expect no less of the man who packed Phoenix Wright (the Japanese version, at least) with such brilliant little puns.

Link:http://www.next-gen.biz/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2768&Itemid=34&limit=1&limitstart=2

I mean, just because you didn't follow a game all the way through, doesn't mean what you know about it is the truth.

Now I admit, I haven't played Twilight Princess very much, but I am tired of people saying Okami copied Zelda like there is no tommorow.

People need to realize, development takes a long time on any type of game, not just Zelda games.

[The Dude]

Now I admit, I haven't played Twilight Princess very much, but I am tired of people saying Okami copied Zelda like there is no tommorow.

I never said it was a rip off. I just said that it has similar gameplay mechanics. It's good but a game but I was slightly dissapointed after reading about how "awesome this underrated game is"

[Phoenix]

As I said in the IRC today, Clover and Nintendo were both working on the whole wolf thing before the other had released information about it. Neither copied off of the other. It was a coincidence.

[Hisham]

Yeah but alot of people think Okami copied TP...

I mean, the wolf was known in Okami before TP... I am just letting everyone know the facts, and making sure they don't think Okami was ripping off Zelda. I mean, yeah it does owe some stuff to Zelda, but it isn't enough to be dwarfed by it. A lot of people talk about Capcom ripping off Nintendo ideas, and I am just correcting them :).

[TheGreenElf]

Haha if you are talking about me, it is because I like my opinion to be known. If it seems like I'm comming off as a jackass, then I'm sorry. I really just want a cilivized conversation.



Umm, no. Okami was in development for a long amount of time, and the wolf mecanic was know before Twilight Princess. It is just because Zelda got so much more publicity than anything Clover Studio could put out. If you had paid attention to the game from the moment it was annouced, you would have known.

Here is how I see people like you looking at it, except knowing that it was the one who orginally had the wolf idea:



Link:http://www.next-gen.biz/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2768&Itemid=34&limit=1&limitstart=2

I mean, just because you didn't follow a game all the way through, doesn't mean what you know about it is the truth.

Now I admit, I haven't played Twilight Princess very much, but I am tired of people saying Okami copied Zelda like there is no tommorow.

People need to realize, development takes a long time on any type of game, not just Zelda games.

I thought that Okami was only in development for 2 years. That's what I kept hearing.

Edit: I also never said Okami copied it. I said it was very similar to Zelda (mostly WW). I never once said it copied.

[Hisham]

Ehh, it was the dude who said something about it being a rip off, I'm too lazy to look for the exact post lol.

Anyways, again to me, Okami > Wind Waker and yeah, I have beaten both games.

The similarites for me, stop after the similar approach to the dungons. Other than that, the story and most everything else is different enough, and not to mention it is the longer game.

It does owe somethings to Zelda, but again, it is different enough to not be dwarfed by it, and ends up being better than most Zelda games I have played.

This is why it is underrated to me, it is better than Zelda games, which have become some of the most overrated games. Dare I say that OOT is now overrated, because to me it isn't the greatest game of all time. It is more like a great game, but not the best installment in the Zelda series (LTTP for me plz :-p).

I forsee that last statment being flamed. :-D

[TheGreenElf]

^It's your opinion. Let them flame. My opinion is that LttP is overrated, along with Twilight Princess... Everything in between (for GBC/GBA and Consoles) I think have been nothing short of incredible.

[Phoenix]

Ehh, it was the dude who said something about it being a rip off, I'm too lazy to look for the exact post lol.

Anyways, again to me, Okami > Wind Waker and yeah, I have beaten both games.

The similarites for me, stop after the similar approach to the dungons. Other than that, the story and most everything else is different enough, and not to mention it is the longer game.

It does owe somethings to Zelda, but again, it is different enough to not be dwarfed by it, and ends up being better than most Zelda games I have played.

This is why it is underrated to me, it is better than Zelda games, which have become some of the most overrated games. Dare I say that OOT is now overrated, because to me it isn't the greatest game of all time. It is more like a great game, but not the best installment in the Zelda series (LTTP for me plz :-p).

I forsee that last statment being flamed. :-DThat's pretty much how I feel, although I haven't played many Zelda cames so I can't really make a total comparison. Also, Okami owes a lot to Zelda, not just some things. It's just how well they pulled it off and still managed to be creative with everything else that lets me forgive them. :)

[Crow]

Underrated - Commandos 2, i didn't buy games much when it was released so i don't really know if it sold well

Curse of Monkey Island - Point and Click game for PC, it was fucking awesome