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Pootie-Tang
06-28-2007, 02:33 PM
Like some of you I rushed out to get rainbow six and I was disappointed. Its not a bad game at all its just lacking that extra polish. And here is what I realized:

1. I am not a fan of First person shooters, They are old School and played out. I feel developers get lazy and therefore create FPS’s to hide the unnatural movements of the characters. Watching other characters run by online in R6 was comical at times. It was very choppy when watching other teammates after you have died. So Please no More FPS!!! Enough already, it’s corny.


2. The socom series are the best online games to date, you can play in FPS or in Third Person and its seemless. Game play is smooth and addictive and your guy doesn’t run like he is gay or is in need of taking a massive dump!


Socom Save us from these Lazy developers! Anyone interested I will sell R6 for $45 just bought it yesterday.

Red
06-28-2007, 04:19 PM
Damn right. The ps3 version of RB6 is crappy. Cant't wait to play Socom Confrontation.

acousticvan
06-28-2007, 04:58 PM
Socom is the best.
I'm still playing fire team bravo for psp almost everyday.

Shogun042
06-28-2007, 05:35 PM
i played SOCOM FTB all last year and i got hooked. i basically got a PS3 for SOCOM.

indiekid4
06-28-2007, 05:44 PM
I agree with you mate. Plus, FPS give me a headache. I have been playing SOCOM II recently. Love that game. It looks amazing with the PS3 Firmware Update 1.82 upscaling in 1080i. (my TV doesn't do 1080p).

edoshin
06-28-2007, 06:08 PM
To be perfectly fair, its not like devs provide toilets for the soldiers, so they just gotta hold it in battle.

SleazyBig slim
06-28-2007, 07:00 PM
SOCOM=King of online shooters. I haven't picked up Rainbow yet, but I was ateast hoping it was good enough to get me through the summer until Warhawk arrives. I'm starting to hear negative things about the game, not that its a bad game, but I think that PlayStation gamers are used to better, we're used to playing the excellent SOCOM for gods sakes, these 3rd party games will never stack up to 1st party offerings from Sony to be honest, because Sony is justthat damn good.

Sephiroth_VII
06-28-2007, 07:01 PM
^^:spit:

yoshaw
06-28-2007, 07:12 PM
To be perfectly fair, its not like devs provide toilets for the soldiers, so they just gotta hold it in battle.

:spit: LMFAO

Z
06-28-2007, 07:40 PM
shouldn't this be included in the SOCOM thread already? we already have a 'so awesome' SOCOM thread. lol
RB6

Rainbow is one word, why would you use two letters for the short form?

D3adcell
06-28-2007, 07:47 PM
I don't have it on PS3 but rainbow six is fun on the 360 I think. It is the only game to come close to the feel that socom has.

While i said closest, it isn't as good of course. I used to play socom online for hours every day. I can play RB6 alot but its not as addictive as socom.

Pootie-Tang
06-28-2007, 07:53 PM
Sleazy,
you are correct! We are use to having played better and if I had never played a Socom game then RB6 would probably be decent, my expectations are high since Socom and all other online shooters will be judged against it.

Z
06-28-2007, 08:13 PM
I see GRAW as a closer cousin to SOCOM than the FPS R6. I love GRAW2 more now because it has been years since last I saw or played a SOCOM game. I checked the PSP game for a couple of minutes. pretty good for a handheld.

section
06-28-2007, 10:46 PM
...and your guy doesn’t run like he is gay or is in need of taking a massive dump!Now what's wrong with either of those? Japanese love androgyn characters, AFAIK that's why Raiden is so popular in Japan.

Also White Knight Story trailer showed a lot of horizontal hip movement with the main protagonist.

Need of taking a massive dump -movement is saved for all the hormone monsters of sci-fi shooters :)

But no, I've never played any Socom. Yet.

LaLiLuLeLo
06-28-2007, 10:54 PM
He 'switches' when he walks.

Z
06-29-2007, 12:42 AM
Also White Knight Story trailer showed a lot of horizontal hip movement with the main protagonist.

he isn't talking about japan's love for pretty boys. he is talking about Navy Seals!:whip:

about the 'walking like wanting to take a crap' that is actually a real military walk. they do it in high alert modes. you can see it plenty in MGS games. it is cool as hell- unless we are talking about different things here.

Marjoh
06-29-2007, 01:52 AM
I don't necessarily hate FPS, because I don't. But like some of you, I'm one of the unlucky one who get sea sick after playing FPS for a few minutes. I remember the first MOH for the PS2 and Halo for the Xbox (the only FPS games I played through last gen), it took me a lot longer to finish each game than I normally finish games because I only played the game for a few minutes each day.

I really wish they make more online 3rdPS.

TheGreenElf
06-29-2007, 09:15 AM
Like some of you I rushed out to get rainbow six and I was disappointed. Its not a bad game at all its just lacking that extra polish. And here is what I realized:

1. I am not a fan of First person shooters, They are old School and played out. I feel developers get lazy and therefore create FPS’s to hide the unnatural movements of the characters. Watching other characters run by online in R6 was comical at times. It was very choppy when watching other teammates after you have died. So Please no More FPS!!! Enough already, it’s corny.


2. The socom series are the best online games to date, you can play in FPS or in Third Person and its seemless. Game play is smooth and addictive and your guy doesn’t run like he is gay or is in need of taking a massive dump!


Socom Save us from these Lazy developers! Anyone interested I will sell R6 for $45 just bought it yesterday.

Don't get me wrong, I love Socom too. I'm playing Combined Assault constantly still... But they have been just as lazy in a lot of respects as any developer. The single player is god-awful (which is why confrontation is reassuring to just leave it out). But, I mean has Zipper done any graphic work since the first? The guns sounds are hit or miss as well...some are dead on...others sound like cap guns. The control scheme is also a bit annoying, but it works decently enough after a little getting used to. The worst thing about it though, is definitely the constant loading menus and bad interface. It takes about 10 minutes if you want to change a few options and then hop online. Once in game though, it's hard to find something to really complain about other than annoying people, but the game can't help that.

Plus, calling Socom the best online series to date seems a bit exaggerated...have you played any PC (or even 360) online games? There are quite a few Socom can't hold a candle to yet...

But if anything gets me to buy a PS3 in the next year, it's definitely Socom...so they've done something right.

LiquidEagle
06-29-2007, 11:10 AM
I've always loved SOCOM, and I'll always pick up the latest SOCOM, but I don't think all other shooters are terrible in comparison :-p

I'm looking forward to Confrontations, but what I really want to see is SOCOM 4 (which will probably come out Fall '08)... Until then it's Warhawk for me :-D

Bsack
06-29-2007, 12:20 PM
The Socom series gets worse and worse with every new release.

Socom 1 was the best in the series hands down

Socom II was a good game, maps weren't too big, but players did take quite a few of hits. Not to mention all the glitches, for example, the sureshot glitch, and cheating devices. I was able to handle the cheating devices on Socom 1 because the game was extremely fun, but socom II it just got kinda old

Socom 3 ruined the series completely for me and Combined Assault was just as bad. Same game just updated. Maps were too big, too many players, game modes were god awful, glitches, cheating devices, vehicles, etc. I can go on and on about how terrible that game was.

Now this new game looks like it will be the same, maybe minus the vehicles. They need to go back to the roots of what socom really was, which is a 8v8, small maps, with simple game modes like extraction, bomb plant, old school suppression, and etc. They ruined suppression maps on Socom 3 and CA because now all they do is promote camping. On the competitive ladder I used to play on people would literally sit in a bush for hours or go swimming for a huge amount of time.

The series has died for me, as far as saying it's the best online shooter because I know for a fact it is not. There's too many tools out there that will buy the series just because it has the socom label, but that's just my opinion. The series has been trash since after Socom II and even then socom II wasn't even a great game.

Smokey
06-29-2007, 12:40 PM
They ruined suppression maps on Socom 3 and CA because now all they do is promote camping
good post Bsack... i HATE with a capital H campers/snipers, takes the fun out i just want to run around like a mad c**t killen & gettin Killed :)

dockthepod
06-30-2007, 01:15 AM
I never understood the SOCOM 3 hate. I've had a ton of fun playing that game online. If you want small games, just play the small version of the map. I like both types of play.

TheGreenElf
06-30-2007, 09:37 PM
Socom 3/CA is the best of all Socom's to me...but there are still a lot of games they don't come close to. However, I've always been a sucker for 3rd Person Shooters.