GTA IV: New video being released today.

[makeitlookreal]

There is supposed to be a new GTA IV video being released today.

[VG Aficionado]

Second GTA IV trailer available in an hour (http://grandtheftauto.yahoo.com/).

EDIT: 30 minutes now.

[makeitlookreal]

I'm looking forward to this new trailer!

The folks at 1UP have said that Rockstar Games has REALLY improved the graphics since the first trailer was released. They have been working on their RAGE engine like crazy and the game looks STUNNING.

At least according to an individual at 1UP.

[VG Aficionado]

Yeah, sure... (http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/820/28ea6abig1.jpg)

[Overload]

Everywhere this video is posted is gonna slow down to a crawl. I hope Sony makes the video available for download on the PSN in Hi def.

[makeitlookreal]

VG,

What specifically are you trying to say?

[VG Aficionado]

http://www.gtagaming.com/images/gtaiv/artwork/sucker.jpg

http://www.gtagaming.com/images/gtaiv/artwork/sniper.jpg

http://www.gtagaming.com/images/gtaiv/artwork/helicopter.jpg

And for all those who have missed all the info that could not be posted in this board for no good reason:

Pics of the special edition. I'd hotlink them but they're too big.

http://files.gtanet.com/images/3432_gta_iv_special_edition.jpg

http://files.gtanet.com/images/3429_gta_iv_special_edition.jpg

http://files.gtanet.com/images/3430_gta_iv_special_edition.jpg

http://files.gtanet.com/images/3431_gta_iv_special_edition.jpg

http://files.gtanet.com/images/3434_gta_iv_special_edition.jpg



1crap podcast info (http://www.gtagaming.com/index.php):

Garnett Lee: The thing that got me excited while they were showing and talking about it, like not every building has an interior, right?
John Davison: Right, but the ones that do are complete. So it's not like in San Andreas or Vice City where it was basically a box with a hole in it, and you would just go into the area. If you can go into a building, it is the whole building. You can go behind the counter, you can break through the door into the back room [which] has furniture in it, and then you can --

Mark McDonald: Well, and the detail, I was really impressed by it.

John: You can smash the back window.. and anything you can interact with.

Garnett: And there's no loading.

They go on to explain how in the demo, Niko was chased and seamlessly entered a building and ran up through the fire escape.


On unique detail:

John: The amount of art that they put into that game is insane. I was blow away just walking up this street, it had a slight incline and there was a bridge going over the top and you could see the train in the distance. And then there was this diner, and there were people walking around in the diner and a guy came out and his phone rang, and he picked up his phone and he was leaning on something and talking, then he walked around the corner and there was a hotdog stand. None of it looked like generic place art. Even like, going down the street, the asphalt on the street had areas where it had been dug up. You know like in San Francisco where they put those f***ing metal plates down everywhere, and they wreak havoc with your suspension? There was an intersection that obviously had some roadwork done on it, and the asphalt was different and there was one of those metal plates.

Mark: When you're watching him walk around that area, it didn't seem tiled and it didn't seem like it was graphics that had been set up and put textures on it.

John: It wasn't pulled from a palette and dropped in it. This was like a hand crafted environment, where everything looked like the artists had just gone wild.

Mark: The visual difference between previous GTA and this, it's night and day, it really is.


On character depth:

John: The way that the character carries himself, and the expression... I mean I know they've been big in the past on trying to build emotional connection, but now the stuff that they're doing with like body language and stuff like that..


Yet more details (http://www.gtagaming.com/index.php): (http://mattyblog.cookynet.com)

• A Near Collision between two cars caused a pedestrian to proclaim loudly "That was f***ed up"

• As Niko approached several people milling in a large group, he sort weaved in and out of them. At one point, he even pushed a pedestrian gently out of his way.

• As Niko continued descending a small hill further down the road, we noticed the way his weight seemed to shift backwards a little, as though he was saving himself from just pitching forwards and setting off into a run. He looked exactly like someone walking down a hill does.

• Another example of the wight shifting was shown later, when Niko began running - looking much like a normal person does instead of some unrealistic video game representation. He leaned a little to the left and right, depending on which direction Rockstar took him, rather than his top half staying stationary and only his legs moving, as per previous GTA games.

• The sight of Niko just walking up some steps managed to impress too.

• The Rockstar team did inform us that that fire escapes and other stuff can be used within the game. We saw a ton of these around Broker and we're sure they'll come in handy, at least in terms of roof access for sniping missions in the finished game, if sniper missions remain, of course.

• Rather than the rags to riches story of old games, GTA IV looks more like a rags to better rags story. The idea is ostensibly for Niko Bellic to keep afloat in Liberty City, rather than walking the streets with tons of cash dripping out of every pocket. After all, if Niko had accumulated over half a million dollars, it's a little far fetched for him to want to carry out other missions. He'd be set for life from that point on and could provide for both himself and his brother. We therefore imagine GTA IV will have a much more realistic approach to funds and how much you'll ultimately have to spend them throughout the game.

• Little focus on building business empires this time - it makes no sense to continue living a criminal life if you're pulling in lucrative results at your pizza parlor, nightclub or taxi rank.

• Unlike other GTAs, IV will have a lesser known voice cast and music that isn't distinctly popular or obvious to the 2007 settings. Expect many unsigned bands or indies to show up.

[Epix]

We should keep this stuff in the GTA4 Official Thread.

[VG Aficionado]

VG,

What specifically are you trying to say?That you should know better by now but you just will never learn. You keep expecting improvements that will make the game so different from what it was like the last time you saw it that it would be like comparing night and day, and that is not going to happen.

We should keep this stuff in the GTA4 Official Thread.How about we let the people who do not visit General Gaming know about the latest GTA IV news as well?

[Coded-Dude]

hmmmm, I was expecting something a little cheesier......thats doesn't look half bad.
Whats the price difference(or has it even been announced yet)?

[EDIT] nvm - $89.95
so for $30 more dollars you get a duffle bag, a locker box, and some artwork.......

[Epix]

That you should know better by now but you just will never learn. You keep expecting improvements that will make the game so different from what it was like the last time you saw it that it would be like comparing night and day, and that is not going to happen.

How about we let the people who do not visit General Gaming know about the latest GTA IV news as well?Then what's the point of the Official Thread?

[VG Aficionado]

Then what's the point of the Official Thread?Don't ask me. All I know is that since the GTA IV thread was moved from this board to General Gaming it's been getting many less hits, many less posts, less timely updates and less exposure overall. I just don't know why the PS3 board can't be a place where we can discuss GTA IV.

[Epix]

Don't ask me. All I know is that since the GTA IV thread was moved from this board to General Gaming it's been getting many less hits, many less posts, less timely updates and less exposure overall. I just don't know why the PS3 board can't be a place where we can discuss GTA IV.It sounds like a we need a PS3 GTA4 Thread and a X360 GTA4 Thread, no?

[yoshaw]

LESS THAT 5 MINS LEFT people! =-o

[VG Aficionado]

It sounds like a we need a PS3 GTA4 Thread and a X360 GTA4 Thread, no?Unless you can give me a reasonable argument on why couldn't we talk about a PS3 game, exclusive or not, in the PS3 board, that is. The same applies to the 360 board.

[yoshaw]

10secs!

[solidsnakejej]

it's up here
http://www.rockstargames.com/IV/trailer_splash.html

[VG Aficionado]

Some say it is available here already, although not for me yet.

http://www.rockstargames.com/IV/trailer_splash.html

[makeitlookreal]

Why was the GTA4 thread moved from this board?

It's going to also be a PS3 game!

Unless of course we only want to use this board to talk about exclusive PS3 games, and that would be fine with me.

However, I'm excited about GTAIV and thought it would be appropriate to update everyone about the video that's posted today.

[yoshaw]

Wtf!!!

[makeitlookreal]

It looks like rock star games website is crashing.

[VG Aficionado]

Haha, the yahoo site is a fiasco.

[GTAce]

Its up here http://games.yahoo.com/games/front

[Epix]

It's up on yahoo. Looking pretty good. :)

[VG Aficionado]

+rep! (when I can)

[makeitlookreal]

People are discussing the trailer on other forums. They are saying that it looks good.

[Coded-Dude]

Looks like I'm gonna have to purchase this.......

[Overload]

Wow.

This game is looking nice, real nice.

I have it in quicktime format http://www.rockstargames.com/IV/trailer2/640x360q.html

[LaLiLuLeLo]

People are discussing the trailer on other forums. They are saying that it looks good.

Yeah, but just so you know it's not waay better than the first trailer, they're pretty samey. But that's because the FIRST trailer already looked great.

[yoshaw]

Holy Shit!!!


I Want This Game So Bad!!!!

Downloading the HD version now :cry2: with joy!!

[makeitlookreal]

I just watched the trailer. The graphics do look slightly improved. However, I'm hoping they will continue to do more work on them.

The story line looks cool.

[GTAce]

There are some nice vehicles in the video but the trailer itself sucks imo.
Way to short.

[LaLiLuLeLo]

The game comes out in 3 months, which means it'll be done in about 1 and a half, which means the graphics engine is finished, and from here any graphical tweaking will be just optimization on the performance side; framerates, collision, glitches, etc. Sorry to dash your hopes!

[yoshaw]

This is the first time I'm excited about ANY GTA game. =-o

Take that for what you will! Watching trailer non-stop! The protagonist moves like sooo realistic, holy moly n the lighting on the helicopter, god dayyymnnn, =-o

[LaLiLuLeLo]

Yeah I might actually get this one. Oh noes!

[VG Aficionado]

Direct feed trailer! (http://media.rockstargames.com/flies/trailer2/1280x720.zip)

[Jay Gee]

This game has a massive difference in visuals than of its predecessors.

[GTAce]

Direct feed trailer! (http://media.rockstargames.com/flies/trailer2/1280x720.zip)

Awesome and good server downloadet 10 MB in 1 and a half second. :banana:

[Sephiroth_VII]

It looks pretty good, but the framerate is as unstable as windows vista...

[makeitlookreal]

This game is much better graphically than all of the other GTA games, but it's not stellar.

Hopefully, the huge world, great animation, and story line can make up for that.

[VG Aficionado]

Posting the link to the direct feed trailer again:

http://media.rockstargames.com/flies/trailer2/1280x720.zip

[yoshaw]

Guys, did I tell you how much I love you all. I haven't been pumped up for a game ever since I saw the MGS4 and FFXIII trailer.

And I can't believe in hell I'm anticipating a GTA game on the level of MGS and FF. I mean oh my freaking god!! It feels like I'm waiting for a movie. I'm hooked!

My blood is all going badzookas, goosebump shit!! n I love you all!!

:grouphug:

[GTAce]

THEN REP ME MAAAN!!!11 :laugh: ;)

EDIT: LOL i love you too. 8)

[LaLiLuLeLo]

This game is much better graphically than all of the other GTA games, but it's not stellar.

Hopefully, the huge world, great animation, and story line can make up for that.

Shhhhhh. Just Shhhhhhh!

[Coded-Dude]

This game is much better graphically than all of the other GTA games, but it's not stellar.

Compared to what.........real life? lol

[Red]

http://media.rockstargames.com/flies/trailer2/1280x720.zip

[wotter]

http://media.rockstargames.com/flies/trailer2/1280x720.zip

:worthy:

Looks great btw, must-buy imo.

[GTAce]

VG posted that link twice. 8)

[Epix]

VG posted that link twice. 8)MegaUpload it GT?

[GTAce]

Yeah its uploading now.

[NeoPlayStation]

Streaming (http://stage6.divx.com/user/MaxGC/video/1361703/GTA-4-Trailer-2---Looking-For-That-Special-Someone)

[GTAce]

http://www.megaupload.com/de/?d=DJ2JW3DP Here it is!
As a Zip.^^

[Segitz]

Why the trouble? Its up in the PSN!

[GTAce]

Some people dont have an HDTV and they can only watch it in 720p on PC. :-p

[Viper]

Why the trouble? Its up in the PSN!

That and the RockStar site downloads much faster.

[yoshaw]

I need the background song from the Trailer2. Badass!

[CreativeWriter]

I thought for a moment I heard James Gandolphini's voice in that trailer. Could be wrong though. It would make sense to have a Sopranos tie-in. That would be fantastic... though they said "lesser known voice cast."

[sikkinixx]

I just watched the trailer. The graphics do look slightly improved. However, I'm hoping they will continue to do more work on them.

The story line looks cool.

Agreed. I'm actually a bit unimpressed graphically so far, it looks a little off for whatever reason. But I don't expect that from a GTA game so it's not a huge deal. The game seems really sweet though :)

[nemesis121]

Sheeeesh!!!! the complaining Graphics whores, GTA was never about GFX always Gameplay, Be happy this Gen version doesn't look like Crap.

[yoshaw]

Update: Rockstar just sent out some additional facts on the trailer. Facts like:

* All footage is captured in real-time on a next generation gaming console.

* It's running on Rockstar's RAGE engine, also used in Table Tennis.

* The game uses euphoria, a fully procedural animation package created by NaturalMotion.

* The music -- titled "Arm In Arm (Shy Child Remix)" -- is by New York City-based band The Boggs
http://www.joystiq.com/2007/06/28/gtaiv-trailer-2-looking-for-that-special-someone/

Euphoria animation from Natural Motion!! =-o No wonder nico walks so lifelike!

n I got the song title too! Yaaay

[LaLiLuLeLo]

Sheeeesh!!!! the complaining Graphics whores, GTA was never about GFX always Gameplay, Be happy this Gen version doesn't look like Crap.

seriously.

[yoshaw]

Repeating from last page, yea I'm hyped.

Update: Rockstar just sent out some additional facts on the trailer. Facts like:

* All footage is captured in real-time on a next generation gaming console.

* It's running on Rockstar's RAGE engine, also used in Table Tennis.

* The game uses euphoria, a fully procedural animation package created by NaturalMotion.

* The music -- titled "Arm In Arm (Shy Child Remix)" -- is by New York City-based band The Boggs
http://www.joystiq.com/2007/06/28/gtaiv-trailer-2-looking-for-that-special-someone/

Euphoria animation from Natural Motion!! =-o No wonder nico walks so lifelike!

n I got the song title too! Yaaay

[OG_Monkey]

Sheeeesh!!!! the complaining Graphics whores, GTA was never about GFX always Gameplay, Be happy this Gen version doesn't look like Crap.

What the hell though, they seem great to me. What did they expect real-life quality? I dont see what their problem is.

But anyway, cant wait for this one. Only 4 more months and i wonder if we'll hear anything about multiplayer possibilities at E3. But GTA games were never really at E3 were they? Not playable for sure but maybe just a trailer that weve seen.

[woundingchaney]

This is shaping to be the title to beat during the holidays. Im impressed with nearly every aspect (visually anyways). Odd that it is a multi plat. title that may walk away with the most impressive visuals of any of the next gen exclusives. The amount of details and attention given to this game looks to be staggering; hopefully R* can come through on the finished product.

[Shadow Voa]

It looks awesome, I'll rent first most likely and then flip a coin and buy it for either one of the consoles.

Big props to R* for making this game look very impressive with seemingly awesome gameplay to match, well done.

[Sephiroth_VII]

I thought you didn't play GTA!? ;)

[section]

Only hoping they have been optimizing for all the aimed platforms. Otherwise the fanboi bickering will be unbearable. From every direction.

[Shadow Voa]

I thought you didn't play GTA!? ;)

You can never judge something unless you play it, Ive played them all and just like a lot of people blowing shit up and killing people gets boring. The missions werent enough to keep me hooked also.. but..

This one looks to deliver a fairly good story from the trailer and...

Russians + Baseball bats = The Win!!! ;)

[OG_Monkey]

It looks awesome, I'll rent first most likely and then flip a coin and buy it for either one of the consoles.

Big props to R* for making this game look very impressive with seemingly awesome gameplay to match, well done.

Im waiting to see which system it turns out better for to the slightest detail maybe. If its in fact true that the PS3 wont get any exclusive downloadable content if its own or 360's(dont gotta be te 360's) then the 360 version might be ultimately better. But then again we dont know what there doing with the PS3's blu-ray and HDD since they were complaining about the 360...

[Sephiroth_VII]

Also, we don't know how much the content is gonna cost.

You can never judge something unless you play it, Ive played them all and just like a lot of people blowing shit up and killing people gets boring. The missions werent enough to keep me hooked also.. but..

This one looks to deliver a fairly good story from the trailer and...

Russians + Baseball bats = The Win!!! ;)

Good to hear, good to hear!

Now go kill some gandma's with that bat!!!!

J/K :wave:

[Sephiroth_VII]

nvm

[Leedogg]

I just saw the video from the PSN, and it looks really good. The complaint I got is did anyone else notice the drops in frames per second, toward the end of the video? Especially when hes on the phone, and the camera rotates around him. Overall, good video thats just one thing I noticed.
I'm hyped for it!

[OG_Monkey]

I just saw the video from the PSN, and it looks really good. The complaint I got is did anyone else notice the drops in frames per second, toward the end of the video? Especially when hes on the phone, and the camera rotates around him. Overall, good video thats just one thing I noticed.
I'm hyped for it!

Didnt notice but im sure it'll be fixed before the release, i mean we still got 4 months.

Also, we don't know how much the content is gonna cost.

Good point, very good point. This ill be R*'s first time doing downloadable content, well to my knowledge. And its going through Xbox LIve Marketplace, and if its true Microsoft payed that much for exclusive content, if its true that Microsoft chooses the price for EVERYTHING that goes on marketplace, thats bad...

[cliffbo]

i think this game is going to be great but that video was uninspiring... sorry

[Fazares]

euphoria...finally...

[OG_Monkey]

Euphoria, what is it and whats so good about it? Have there been other games to use this?

[julps31]

Glad to see where all on the same page now (for the most part). Cause i know how alotta ya'll wanted to be hard on the first trailer lol. Now it looks like everybodys seen the light lol. Looks like its gonna be crazy. *pats self on back for standing ground about the graphical quality* :)

[Z]

wow! the graphics are great, the animation is great, the atmosphere tops almost everything else. now this is on my top must have list. I am putting GTA4 right under my No.1 MGS4. it will share second place with Killzone. sorry, need to check that one first to decide. :)

[Coded-Dude]

=-o Heavenly Sword had better be in your top 5 still....or else! :susp:

[LaLiLuLeLo]

WE WILL SEND NINJAS! :kill:

[OmniCloud]

Am I the only one NOT blown away by the new trailer:huh:

Honestly, after seeing Uncharted and Cod4, this is not that OMG=-o anymore....

There's some good animations in there and the story has me interested, but definitely not the game to beat in visuals this year. And as far as scope goes, well, nothing has amazed me more than Lair yet...

I dunno fellas...

*Goes to watch trailer again to see what the hell everyone else is giddy about...*

[GTAce]

I agree with you Omni.
The only thing that really interests me in the trailer are the vehicles.
But the game will be good never mind how a trailer was.^^

[LaLiLuLeLo]

NO IT'S NOT THE GAME TO BEAT FOR VISUALS.

WTF!!! AL;DJA;SLDKFJAL;BVJHAO;WIEFH;ALSKF;AOWIJ;WAIEJG;SL ADKJ;LASKJFL;AWEKRJQW3OPIUF O;AS!!!

Way to completely miss the point by 100 miles! It's GTA, and it looks pretty, and, instead of just making the game more and more and bigger, they're actually tuning and revising the gameplay and the rules of this world they've made. I'm not even a GTA fan by a longshot but even a blind man could see that this game has a lot going for it. It's not the most detailed game but how many other games match it in scope? It's an entire goddamn city that is visually on par with its contemporaries, if not better. A game of this scope on the PS2 or Xbox meant it basically look like shit because devs had to do a balancing act. Now the world is huge and looks believable. The trailer didn't make me wet my pants, and I don't think it was supposed to do more than give us some more background on the character or the tone of the new story.

Man, people now are so afraid to be impressed.

[GTAce]

Nah not because of the graphics.
The whole trailer wasnt that good imo.
And there wasnt something gameplay wise that blew me away.
Okay it seems that you can now hang you on cars and copters but that was the only real new gameplay stuff....
The framerate was horrible but i think they will improve in this direction.
The graphics are good like in the first trailer.

[Coded-Dude]

As long as they fix the police AI, I will get this game.....
My biggest gripe about the GTA series was police incompetence.

A gang of criminals could be firing down on me with every weapon in their arsenal and a cop would drive by like they were playing with water guns......but as soon as you open fire on them, that little star pops up and now you have criminals and law enforcement officers coming down on you. Used to frustrate me to no end.

How about do your job you fucking pigs, I'm not the only criminal in town!!!
Other people need shooting too! :rant:

[OmniCloud]

NO IT'S NOT THE GAME TO BEAT FOR VISUALS.

WTF!!! AL;DJA;SLDKFJAL;BVJHAO;WIEFH;ALSKF;AOWIJ;WAIEJG;SL ADKJ;LASKJFL;AWEKRJQW3OPIUF O;AS!!!

Way to completely miss the point by 100 miles! It's GTA, and it looks pretty, and, instead of just making the game more and more and bigger, they're actually tuning and revising the gameplay and the rules of this world they've made. I'm not even a GTA fan by a longshot but even a blind man could see that this game has a lot going for it. It's not the most detailed game but how many other games match it in scope? It's an entire goddamn city that is visually on par with its contemporaries, if not better. A game of this scope on the PS2 or Xbox meant it basically look like shit because devs had to do a balancing act. Now the world is huge and looks believable. The trailer didn't make me wet my pants, and I don't think it was supposed to do more than give us some more background on the character or the tone of the new story.

Man, people now are so afraid to be impressed.you just answered yourself on why some of us wouldn't be impressed...

Only fans of the series would be SUPER impressed that finally a GTA games actually looks good. But if your casual GTA, maybe played through the first, a little of the second, and was one of the people that felt the series was extremely repetitive, then I don't understand why it's hard to see my point-of-view.

The game looks mediocre IMO, doesn't matter if it's GTA or Socom...

Am I saying it sucks??! Of course not. And I like the direction there taking by going for more details and animations, and making the city feel more alive etc..

However, many of the comments I was reading were like this was some of the hottest ish to watch right now, I watched the trailer, expecting to be blown away like I was with Ratchet, and I just saw a much improved GTa game:huh:

All I'm saying is WTF??! I'm not a fan, and that's not that impressive...

[Coded-Dude]

in all fairness, its a little easier to make "cartoony" games/characters look better(in both graphic quality and art direction) than something that is supposed to simulate real world environments. This is one of the reasons WOW is so popular.

GTA is all about gameplay, and they didn't show off too much, but is there really a need too?
What does RockStar need to do to "Revolutionize" this game?

I say nothing..... improve AI/Physics and maybe add a few new gameplay features, like hanging from helicopters, etc.
(that doesn't mean more mini games - like hot coffee mod, lol)

[VG Aficionado]

As a GTA fan for many years now I find this game interesting, but the graphics aren't the most special thing about it. I won't complain though.

[curryking1]

This might be the first game I'll actually care about to buy when I get my PS3, I love this game... I'm thinking to buy one right when this game comes out for it now.

This new E3 layout is crazy! I'm so lost... hahaha. :P

[OmniCloud]

in all fairness, its a little easier to make "cartoony" games/characters look better(in both graphic quality and art direction) than something that is supposed to simulate real world environments. This is one of the reasons WOW is so popular.

GTA is all about gameplay, and they didn't show off too much, but is there really a need too?
What does RockStar need to do to "Revolutionize" this game?

I say nothing..... improve AI/Physics and maybe add a few new gameplay features, like hanging from helicopters, etc.
(that doesn't mean more mini games - like hot coffee mod, lol)I agree, but the thing that may actually make GTA a purchase for non-fans are the things they haven't freakin' shown yet!!

The story, animations, gameplay has only been hinted at. I'm seeing people going gaga over the visuals, and I'm just asking? WTF:huh:

Maybe a bit closer to release date when I can see that you can climb on more walls than Assassin's Creed, or the story isn't some mission based mini-game but it's actually gripping and involving and makes you want to finish the game in one night. Well then, I can post my excitement. But currently, I'm failing to understand the "giddiness" of this thread...

[Z]

GTA always had crappy visuals- always. their best effort looks like a cartoon project gone bad. but this one is amazing. before you name the best lookers you ever saw, keep in mind the genre GTA is in; this is a huge open world game in which graphics have to be consistent. for that, it looks impressive. and we're not just talking about graphics, check the physics as well. look at when he shoots the car; it reacts to bullet hits. look at how Nico swings holding that truck.

two things to notw; the black helicopter looks great and there is someone kicking aomeone else in the bascketball court at 38 seconds in the trailer. lol

[Segitz]

Meh trailers (even sucky encoding in the PSN)...

Nothing revealed, nothing "mind blowing", just a simple game trailer. Might get it though (best 3rd party non-exclusive there is, imho, yet to be fought out with AC), not sure yet.

[Z]

it's all about the potential this IS GTA we are talking about; the definition of 'open sandbox genre'. just look at all the wannabes in comparison. :)

[Applefiend]

I think the graphics do look worse, but the LaLiLuLeLo is right. The game will have the best jokes, the biggest scope, the stupidest missions, the best voice acting, and be a real movie game.

Those seeking graphics thrills should always look away from GTA4.

[OmniCloud]

I think the graphics do look worse, but the LaLiLuLeLo is right. The game will have the best jokes, the biggest scope, the stupidest missions, the best voice acting, and be a real movie game.

Those seeking graphics thrills should always look away from GTA4. That's yet to be proven...I didn't think the last one was that good in any of those areas...Sure you could tell the production values were through the roof, but it was definitely OVER done in San Andreas...

And I got tired of the rags to riches style of the Gta series as well...I'm hoping the series is more story driven and mature than the other titles...I love the way he flings and holds onto the door though...

Before I get flamed, I'm not saying GTA4 looks bad in any way, but as a gamer whose lost interest in the genre, there' NOTHING in the new trailer that would bring me in. It's an upgraded GTA for now, but for fans, I can see why you'd be hyped, it just isn't the same for everyone.

and for the record, I don't see what's so great about open sandbox if there's no point to your actions...

Perfect example is Oblivion. Got amazing reviews, critically acclaimed and everything. After 4 hours of it, I didn't understand what the hell was so special about it? Lost interest and never touched it again. Same feeling I got with GTa--mindless sandbox mayhem isn't fun for me anymore. But, if they somehow make that much more of an afterthought and make a game for freakin adults with a gripping story I can relate--well Kudos to Rockstar...

[Applefiend]

Well you're right about Oblivion. I don't think Oblivion is in anyway a bad game, it's actually excellent. It's just a niche game over hyped and overblown as if it's mainstream.

[yoshaw]

Omni, and everyone else whose saying WTF is so cool about GTAIV or you know whatever it is you're saying. Lemme chime in.

I was never a GTA fan. Never.

I can't make it simpler than that. More to the game itself. Something about the protagonist Nicco, he's no muscle totting, cussing, italian, gangsta look alike. Instead, He gives this persona of an immigrant, afaict. His features are humble yet enough to portray a tough guy look. This character resonated with me more than any other in the past, in short.

That ... and the graphics. Bring your attention to the toll gate scene. Look at the bridge far in the background. Look at Nicco desperately wavering his legs while hanging onto a helicopter. Shadows, lighting, animation, bullet holes(ala 8days GDC'06 demo) are all a great step above any other GTA ever.

I've played all the GTA's to a fair extent. Didn't finish any to the end but damn if I hadn't played atleast half of each. I liked what I played then but I love what I see now even more. Everything is 2-3 steps above from the past and that's good enough. The fmv sequences, the sound, voice acting, graphics, lighting, onscreen character amount, animation, etc All seem to have improved in a lot of ways. And I'm also very impressed by the movie-esque trailer and how they tried to convey Nicco as a victim in all of it. Vague references to story yet highly addictive elements thrown in to yearn what's in store.

I can't describe anymore. I've stopped writing as much as I used to before. I dun know why. Just take my words for what you will. Not tryin to convince anyone to agree. Only that, I'm surprised myself at how I being such a critic of the series am going badzookas crazy over the latest iteration. Regardless of how anyone else sees it. I'm sold by this 1min showcase. A job very well done and IMO only the likes of Kojima or Square can pull me in this quick. Considering I know myself to not be easily impressed by every other vgame in the blue. Again, take that for what you wil.

Peace.

[curryking1]

I strongly agree with Z and yoshaw lol. When I'm looking at this trailer, I'm just imagining what kind of things I can do, where I can explore, how I can interact with the other people in the world.

Check out when the car is getting shot. Bullet marks in the windshield, nice wheel popping effects, I mean, this, graphically, is Eight Days trailer lite version like yoshaw said. The scale of the game is ridiculous which I know is said over and over again, but it's crazy how much is jampacked into it.

I mean think about the things in the game. Breaking open car windows with your elbow, fully animated into the game. Look at the expressions during gameplay. Look at how well he animates when he walks. Look how many people are walking around.

And it's hilarious that what I just put there is the surface of the game! That's just what you see if you watch 30 sec clips of it! In the game description in previews it says buildings are no longer just boxes, you enter them easily with no loading. You can enter or escape through a backdoor or window even. You can run up a freaking fire escape to the top of a building, or down it for a rooftop chase or getaway.

GTA IV is a game with one of the largest worlds, but ironically it's by far one of the most jampacked with content and variability and interactivity. I mean.. that's just amazing to me. I can't stress enough how much I want to play this game.

This is the ultimate action game to me. This is stuff I used to think about 'that would be so cool to do in a game, to drive everywhere, to be able to go in here, do this and that, climb a tree or a pole, jump onto a back of a vehicle like back home, climb stairs/fire escapes on sides of buildings that have been unclimbable since videogames have ever existed etc etc etc.'

And for what it's worth for me as well, for basically everything I'm very picky and quite the connoiseur (however the hell that is spelled). That's my take on how GTA IV appeals to me. It looks like one of the finest games that will be ever made.

P.S. God damn, my net is so slow here haha, it's such a struggle just to post something lol.

[OmniCloud]

Good post Yoshaw and Curry... i agree it could be a big game...But it's just VERY, VERY easy to get excited about these big blockbuster games--and I am extremely skeptical when it comes to titles with a lot of hype. I immediately saw =-o and exclamation points with no reasoning behind--my first guess, "my goodness you guys are buying into the hype-this doesn't even look that awesome:huh:" But I see where some of you are coming from, and I hope it shapes up to be that living breathing city with an amazing story with a character you can relate to, right now, I'm not about to give Rockstar the benefit of the doubt--they've milked the franchise a bit too much for me to do that.

[OmniCloud]

Well you're right about Oblivion. I don't think Oblivion is in anyway a bad game, it's actually excellent. It's just a niche game over hyped and overblown as if it's mainstream.QFT

[curryking1]

I agree they've milked it a bit on the side with the Stories games. I would have to admit though, I'd do the exact same thing. I think their three main games were real successors for the franchises and really advanced the whole game idea.

But that's cool. We should wait to see if they deliver I guess also... this game is getting hyped a lot. From my personal experience, only my own, to me and what I was always hyped about for the GTAs, my personal expectations were always matched. I hope the same will happen this time lol.

P.S. I do agree about Oblivion what Apple said. Amazing game, but it's niche, it's really not mainstream. It's as mainstream as Bioshock is going to be. Which is also going to be an amazing game, but it's not like it's going to set the retail channels on fire like we know others have and can.

I don't think that theory can be applied to GTA though. I dunno... again, I just have to come back to my own personal experience, GTA has stunned me three times in a row. I have confidence in them :)

[TEEDA]

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Looks good, but i' m waiting to see other GTA-like especially 2days to vegas and The Getaway.
But GTA IV reminds me GTA III, my favorite GTA on the PS2.
I was damn impressed by the first trailer, with the city being really croweded and the car traffic amazing, but I just hope the final game will have those features and not, empty streets and only 5 or 6 people on the streets every blocks.

[LaLiLuLeLo]

That's yet to be proven...I didn't think the last one was that good in any of those areas...Sure you could tell the production values were through the roof, but it was definitely OVER done in San Andreas...

And I got tired of the rags to riches style of the Gta series as well...I'm hoping the series is more story driven and mature than the other titles...I love the way he flings and holds onto the door though...

Before I get flamed, I'm not saying GTA4 looks bad in any way, but as a gamer whose lost interest in the genre, there' NOTHING in the new trailer that would bring me in. It's an upgraded GTA for now, but for fans, I can see why you'd be hyped, it just isn't the same for everyone.

and for the record, I don't see what's so great about open sandbox if there's no point to your actions...

Perfect example is Oblivion. Got amazing reviews, critically acclaimed and everything. After 4 hours of it, I didn't understand what the hell was so special about it? Lost interest and never touched it again. Same feeling I got with GTa--mindless sandbox mayhem isn't fun for me anymore. But, if they somehow make that much more of an afterthought and make a game for freakin adults with a gripping story I can relate--well Kudos to Rockstar...



I'm not a fan of Sandbox games either, thus not fan of GTA games, just didn't care. But this one, to me actually looks compelling, and visually, not like a pile of shit. That's what has me interested at all.

[LiquidEagle]

I loved San Andreas the most so far, and from the trailer I'm gonna love 4 :-D

Come on, October 16th!

[Z]

another thing I noticed and love: pedestrans have more than 2 designs!

look at all the NPCs around. they look unique and have clothing and accessories. even those who look alike have different clothing. very nice. plus, I can't wait to lean on a car's trunk minding my own business and wait for a grandma to walk a cross me to clobber he in the head and open my trunk and throw her in and then drive like a drunk madman and hear the poor thing scream like a banshee! lol

those kinds of things always get me.

My GTA4 tagline: abusing grandmas in 37 different ways.

[KRA]

i don't understand one thing.
they make countdowns for trailers yet.
they can't make framerate stable in it ?!
i know that it is all gamplay from unfinished game but...
well for sake of trailer they could tweek it a little.

[julps31]

I don't know what some people are complainging about. The atmosphere and look of the game is what gets me excited. Not neccesarily that it looks amazing (and GTA games have never been measured by there graphical quality but there depth and the free roaming gameplay).

And considering the past GTA games were so compelling and engrossing with graphics that were short of ugly i get excited about this one. Since the graphics are actual good and everythings looks (and most likey) feels more alive which will probably make the experience THAT much more memorable. I guess you gotta be a fan to understand this. :shrug:

[Z]

I http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa188/shmookins/emos/beautiful.gif this game so much!

[GTAce]

:lol:

[makeitlookreal]

Did I hear there would be animals and children in this game?

[woundingchaney]

Did I hear there would be animals and children in this game?

I remember something regarding children but cant specifically remember what about.

[makeitlookreal]

Yes, I also thought I heard something about children and animals being in this game.

Perhaps if you kill a child in this game the whole community unites together and goes on a city wide hunt to track you down!

Just imagine dozens of angry mothers in the game chasing after you with shotguns!

[KRA]

Yes, I also thought I heard something about children and animals being in this game.

Perhaps if you kill a child in this game the whole community unites together and goes on a city wide hunt to track you down!

Just imagine dozens of angry mothers in the game chasing after you with shotguns!


just imagine people watching 'real life' graphics game where you can kill kids.
ehh controversy around gaming will really start with next gen.. well.. current.
there will be tons of jack tretton or whatever his name is.
i can imagine gaming industry needing some defenders or there will be mario only :)

[Segitz]

i don't understand one thing.
they make countdowns for trailers yet.
they can't make framerate stable in it ?!
i know that it is all gamplay from unfinished game but...
well for sake of trailer they could tweek it a little.

I rather find the question, they have the time to make a countdown, yet they are completely unable to properly encode a freaking trailer. My brother could do a better job (wanna keep it fair, I am a hobbyist film guy) with Nero and the presets!

[Sephiroth_VII]

Jackie will have a field day!

[Z]

our comic relief http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa188/shmookins/emos/lols.gif

[Fats]

Sorry, thought this would get more attention here.

In GTA IV Time Square will be called in “star Junction”
- You can buy weapons using a cellular phone
- The police radioing for help feature returns
- Each criminal offense drives the Wanted level up. As soon as you reach several stars, The other player can locate you on the radar and deliver some serious fireworks on ya.
- Rockstar is designing GTAIV as a seamless HD Experience
-The driving mode has been altered given the cars addition weight( and a more realistic feel) (PLASTIC CARS UNCONFIRMED)
- The city Skylines are breath taking
-There are no pauses for Loading when entering an interior location
-Nikos facial expressions fits the actions perfectly.
-The use of cover and an overhaul system makes battles very fierce.
-The liberty city waterways plays a significant role in the game
- The atmosphere and noise of firefights is scarily reminiscent of <strong>GEARS OF WAR</strong>
More details in magazine scans.
- GTA4 has its own internet in the game and its going to be very important, and Niko uploaded his cv using it to someone hes hired to kill so he cud get a interview for a job, then he go's to the interview and kills his mark.
-Theres this new way of shaking the cops to do with a circle thing, when u get out of the circle u lose em and u can be smart like go down a street when ppl can't see you and knick another car and drive straight past the cops and they won't notice you, more realistic stuff, sounds cool, the gun mechanics are apparently a lot like gears of War.

New scans and source (http://gamers-creed.com/?p=373#more-373)

[GTAce]

=-o Thats sounds all so awesome to me.

[yoshaw]

This game can't get enough of me I swear. =-o what the heck did I just say?

:duh: I'm so hyped

[GTAce]

:laugh:

[LiquidEagle]

"other player"?

[VG Aficionado]

Yeah, apparently there are multiplayer mode details in those scans.

I hope the multiplayer modes from the PSP games are available in GTA IV, as I never had the opportunity to play them and they seemed quite original and fun.

[LiquidEagle]

I hope it has no multiplayer just so you're disappointed.

[VG Aficionado]

Well, maybe Sony didn't pay enough and GTA IV for PS3 won't have multiplayer either :shrug: ;)

[Leedogg]

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/21139.html

I posted that in the other GTA IV thread, but the video shows how detailed GTA IV is.

[GTAce]

Yeah the vid is nice but there is one mistake.
This is clearly not THE "Hunter" lol.

Nice that they mentioned the "Stallion", but the car has almost the rear from the "Sabre". ;)

[Segitz]

Ya, I already preordered it^^

Luckily, I skipped all other games that are not GTA^^

[curryking1]

Awesome news. I like this tidbit. GTA IV is just going to be too awesome, wow....

-Theres this new way of shaking the cops to do with a circle thing, when u get out of the circle u lose em and u can be smart like go down a street when ppl can't see you and knick another car and drive straight past the cops and they won't notice you, more realistic stuff

[VG Aficionado]

Stolen from NeoGAF:

New scans from german magazine Games Aktuell:
(Note: Some screens in the mag are labelled with "PS3". I don't know if this is true, but if yes, these should be the first screens of the PS3 version)


Some infos:

- There will be no Ammu Nation shops anymore.

- The girl with the lollipop is called Lola. It seems that she is a prostitute, but no further information is given about her.

- If you take a cab you can mark any point on the map in order to arrive there. There are even special options: If you have have hunger, you will be driven to the next fast food restaurant. If you're hurt you'll be driven to the hospital.

- If the police searches you, you won't find a cab that will transport you.

- The camera is now positioned lower and more left when you sit in a car. According to Rockstar this gives a more realistic feeling. But there are still different camera settings.

- If you're in a mission, the map not only shows a symbol, but even a line with the best route.

- You can walk, run or sprint. Latter will make you exhausted after a while.

- In the mission where you have to kill the Lawyer Mr. Goldberg there is a dialogue between him and Niko (after Niko pulled out his gun). Goldberg says: "I don't fear guns. You know, guns don't kill people - Videogames kill people." (Hello Jack :laugh:)

- The following shootout with the police is one of the best ever in a GTA-game according to the magazine. You have to cover and shoot while things fly through the room from the bullets. One policeman even fell down the escalator when they shoot him in the knee.

[gnznroses]

i thought R said there wasn't gonna be anymore eating and all that extra fluff?

[masteratt]

GTA IV is just going to be too awesome

As we didn't know :p

Let me tell you now so you don't get suprised- GTA:V is going to be too awesome too and any GTAs in between.

[julps31]

Nice. I can't wait to play this game. From the sounds of it there taking a more realistic route with this GTA. It'll probably be even more immersive and memorable because of that.

[yoshaw]

I like the part where the lawyer gets it in the sphinctor!

[Red_Eyes]

In the mission where you have to kill the Lawyer Mr. Goldberg there is a dialogue between him and Niko (after Niko pulled out his gun). Goldberg says: "I don't fear guns. You know, guns don't kill people - Videogames kill people." (Hello Jack )Hahaha.

[VG Aficionado]

New long preview (http://ps3.ign.com/articles/807/807625p5.html) and screenshots (http://media.ps3.ign.com/media/793/793799/imgs_1.html)

[Z]

thanks.

the thread title should be changed. it keeps saying 'today' and that is confusing. I have a short term memory...
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[GTAce]

The water looks great! :thumbl:

[LiquidEagle]

The water looks great! :thumbl:

I was thinking the same thing :-D

[masteratt]

That water screenshot looks so weird to me.

All blurred out- The guy seems to be Jesus (he is glowing) lol.

The rest look awesome though.

The water looks meh to me :p

[dendj55]

" Speaking to the gaming websites gather who were gather at the GTAIV preview event, Rockstar has confirmed that that the PS3 version of GTAIV is a week to two weeks behind the XBOX360’s version.

The demo which was shown is from the Xbox 360 version of the game. The PlayStation 3 version is still “a week or two behind,” according to Rockstar. The build shown is 5 weeks old, and the framerate has improved considerably since the last demo."

Entire Story (http://gamers-creed.com/?p=121#more-121)

[masteratt]

Jesus christ Rockstar :(

At least make it better.

[VG Aficionado]

Big deal.

[GTShotoKen]

New Gamespot preview:

http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/action/grandtheftauto4/news.html?sid=6175585&tag=topslot;title;3&om_act=convert&om_clk=topslot