Resident Evil 5 - official thread

[VG Aficionado]

Should I sue Capcom for having Leon kill so many Spaniards? Although they mostly spoke like Mexicans or Peruvians or Venezuelans :shrug:

[curryking1]

Ya I think RE4 was a hidden signal to the underground movement of the Anti-Spain and Anti-Spanish speaking nations all around the world.

[VG Aficionado]

:cry2:

But if we sue Capcom, we'd be racist towards Capcom! OMG!

[curryking1]

Stop hating on the Japanese people! You racialist VG!!11!

[VG Aficionado]

But I love the Japanese girls :cry2:

[hybridofsteel]

Why didn't they complain when they had Leonardo DiCaprio killing all those Africans in Blood Diamond?

[Passive]

Why didn't they complain when they had Leonardo DiCaprio killing all those Africans in Blood Diamond?

wtf man? have you even seen Blood Diamond?

[hybridofsteel]

Yes I have. And if you want to disavow that Danny Archer didn't kill any Africans in that movie then you're in denial. Maybe if I've offended you by using Blood Diamond as an example then I'm sorry. I can give another White men killing Africans in media scenario:

Black Hawk Down

[Segitz]

But I love the Japanese girls :cry2:

You sir are great^^


What I don't get is...

If it was the other way round, Chris being black and the zombies being white, would there be an uproar? Certainly not.

Would there be an uproar if the zombies where either asian or russian? I do NOT think so.

Why oh why is such thing such a big issue for those black people rights organizations? Well, I for one think, because that way they get attention (same thing happens with the "jewish central committee" in Germany... man I HATE those people!), not because they would be offended (I am sure, they won't even play the game at all).


But since this game is made in asia, they cannot call for racism directly imho. There are only so many peoples on earth, so you choose one... Why can't it be black? Why must it be white?

Yes, I know that racism still is a problem in the US and many other countries (not in Germany though, we nearly have none, we have turkish people)... but shall this forbid ANY game/movie that just doesn't care about this topic (watch the Southpark episode about the flag change)

[yoshaw]

Segitz,

I don't think this might be a appropriate place to have an argument over this. But the reason anyone protests such a situation would only be because it brings back memories of yore that may be unpleasant to a certain race/country/individual. As a sane human, anyone should pay attention to what might hurt anothers feelings on such grand scale. I'm sure I don't have to describe what has happened in the past to certain races. Neither do I say I'm siding on either side of the fence. Just answering the part where u say "Why its a big issue?".

It is a big issue because it hurts people who've been through suffering. Brings back memories they wanna forget. Simple as that, IMO. I don't think we should pursue this any further.

Lets discuss RE5, shall we? RE5 ROXX, yaaaay. Err yea, we need more RE5 footage btw


I'm not good at this... :doh:

[LaLiLuLeLo]

Blood Diamond is a different scenario all together. Sierra Leone was at war and people who should know right from wrong are killing each other. It's war, kill or be killed, and that's not racism at all. The character Danny Archer fought alongside as many blacks as he fought against. People are people regardless, everyone's fair game.

As far as RE5 goes, the imagery is there, and while it's not intentional (honestly because I just don't think Japan knows any better, cuz diversity isn't exactly in their national make up), it's something that should be treated sensitively. And people who are quick to say, 'race shouldn't matter', you're right, it shouldn't, and it should just be a game, but fact is our society isn't there yet, isn't ready for it. Especially American culture where there's a loonnnnnng history of movies and television depicting Blacks as dumb, goofy, or animalistic and savage, as sub-human, and posing a dangerous threat to whites and their children. Pitting the one athletic white hero alpha male against the horde of savage, but overall incompetent and inferior enemies, who all look like the boogieman, digs up a lot of bad dirt for people in the states.

And sadly, yes, let's face it, the graphic fidelity of games is getting to be pretty friggin' incredible. There are several instances in the RE5 trailer where, when paused, it just looks like a photo of some shithole African country (or Haiti, which is most likely the place). We've gotten that close. Where killing someone in a game triggers a visceral response in the user, because they do look like people. I probably won't play GTA4 the same way I played GTA3. That visceral reaction is 'kinda' there in the GTA games but not so much because the people behave unrealistically and are very cartoony, and the blood is this fake bright red.

The 'it's just a game' argument doesn't apply either, not if you're in the 'games can be art' camp. If you do only see games on a purely visceral entertainment level as say, porn, or a B-level action movie, then you're exempt, and it is 'just a game'. If you're one of the gaming community championing gaming as a moving and compelling entertainment experience on the level of movies, music, television and literature, then you also have to accept that games have to accept the same social responsibilities for the stories and imagery they present to the audience.

It's nothing to get at each other's throats over (hell I might still buy the game, might not, but that has more to do with not being a huge RE fan, but knowing that yeah the franchise is good, than it does with omg racism issues), but it is worth acknowledging, being aware of, and at least asking a few questions, because it is a sensitive subject, the civil rights movement was only 40 years ago, and at the end of the day, the racial equality plane has not landed yet. I know this kind of thing doesn't occur to a lot of you who are either not black or not American, so you want to huff and roll your eyes about it, or be sarcastic about it, but that's the grim reality of it.

[Segitz]

I wrote it in a PM to yoshaw...

Why do games get treated differently than movies are? That's my problem here!

I as a German don't cry foul when Spielberg made his movies (esp. Saving Private Ryan, where thousands of Germans get killed) (yes I know they were on the bad side, but still, killing is NEVER good.

But let's just ignore this racism blackmail here, it's not worth paying attention to it

[yoshaw]

I wrote it in a PM to yoshaw...

........

But let's just ignore this racism blackmail here, it's not worth paying attention to it

Thanks Segitz, I'm sure everyone here appreciates you acknowledging the sensitivity of the issue. +rep my friend.

[hybridofsteel]

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Stop trying to justify the controversy. There is no argument. The zombies are NOT HUMAN. Period. Don't compare them to people that have sanity and a certain skin color.

There is a reason that Capcom chose Africa for RE5's location and it's not because its inhabitants have dark skin. If you read all of Wesker's reports you'll know that the T-Virus and G-Virus were derivatives of the Ebola virus which is most prominant in the Sahara subcontinent.

[curryking1]

Lali didn't say that.

He just said questions should still be asked regardless, as a buffer and protection to make sure there is no evil intention (which we know is not there). Nothing should be overlooked he's saying, because if anything is overlooked you may just overlook the wrong one you know?

It's precaution, no more, no less. And it is true, the civil rights movement stopped not very long ago. And it is true, it's a very sensitive issue.

That's why these kinds of things should be gone over with a fine tooth comb, it's security, it's precaution, it's to be safe instead of sorry.

He's not defending the controversy. You're misinterpreting his post.

P.S. I know Lali recognizes that this organization's claim on this particular issue is pretty ridiculous, I think we all recognize it. But again, you misunderstood what he was saying.

=========================

And there's no reason to talk about this anymore because it wouldn't belong in the PS3 section, right?

All that matters is Chris is sexier than Leon and Chris > Leon.

[chartwel]

Stop trying to justify the controversy. There is no argument. The zombies are NOT HUMAN. Period. Don't compare them to people that have sanity and a certain skin color.

There is a reason that Capcom chose Africa for RE5's location and it's not because its inhabitants have dark skin. If you read all of Wesker's reports you'll know that the T-Virus and G-Virus were derivatives of the Ebola virus which is most prominant in the Sahara subcontinent.

not to mention the only place he could possibly hope to rebuild umbrella is a country that he doesnt have to worry about the government interfering. Africa might fit the bill on that one too.

[LaLiLuLeLo]

Stop trying to justify the controversy. There is no argument. The zombies are NOT HUMAN. Period. Don't compare them to people that have sanity and a certain skin color.

There is a reason that Capcom chose Africa for RE5's location and it's not because its inhabitants have dark skin. If you read all of Wesker's reports you'll know that the T-Virus and G-Virus were derivatives of the Ebola virus which is most prominant in the Sahara subcontinent.

Well, you could say that if the infected people in RE5 looked like zombies or were at all grotesque or showing some form of zombie like decay. They don't, because they aren't zombies (capcom said so), it's another kind of plague or virus similar to, but not the same as the La Plagas from RE4. They look like people. Yes they are overcome by some kind of rage virus (cribbing 28 days later here), but they are not illustrated as zombies or freaks, showing no signs of rotting, decay, or mutation, just people gone mad. so the blanket term of 'zombie' doesn't work because they aren't zombies, nor do they look or behave like zombies. They just look like crazy people. Of course, we all understand the context this is presented in from the perspective of the RE universe, but the point remains, it's visually disturbing for a lot of valid historical reasons.

[GTShotoKen]

Stop trying to justify the controversy. There is no argument. The zombies are NOT HUMAN. Period. Don't compare them to people that have sanity and a certain skin color.

Hey don't jump the gun here, try actually reading his text before commenting...

There is a reason that Capcom chose Africa for RE5's location and it's not because its inhabitants have dark skin. If you read all of Wesker's reports you'll know that the T-Virus and G-Virus were derivatives of the Ebola virus which is most prominant in the Sahara subcontinent.

I'm pretty sure that Hardcore RE fans aren't the people that have anything to do with this issue....

If you try thinking from a concerned parent's point of view or a person who is gonna start playing the RE franchise at its fifth title...don't you think it would set off at least a little mental alarm when the only advertisement you see of this game is a well-built Caucasian man shooting Africans?

People misinterpret what they don't understand all the time. This is just a part of life. Capcom is trying to sell their game to the public and with that they create a public image for the title. You can't just quote facts from past RE games and expect a regular person to know anything of what you say.

[LaLiLuLeLo]

Bottom line is, games are getting to the point now where their visual fidelity is so good, they actually trigger a visceral reaction from the user based on the content in the game.

[GTShotoKen]

Bottom line is, games are getting to the point now where their visual fidelity is so good, they actually trigger a visceral reaction from the user based on the content in the game.

QFT

I completely agree LaLi. :)

[Passive]

Yes I have. And if you want to disavow that Danny Archer didn't kill any Africans in that movie then you're in denial. Maybe if I've offended you by using Blood Diamond as an example then I'm sorry. I can give another White men killing Africans in media scenario:

Black Hawk Down

lol yeah but you cant use Black Hawk Down as racist :P its based on a rue story.

but you did sorta offend me with the Blood Diamond example lol because that movie is far from racist in ANY way. lol but im not mad ;)

hmm good movie example... hmm....

anyone here seen cannibal holocaust? :P thats got some pretty racists scenes in it. cept that movie was banned XD lol so bad example.

[yoshaw]

We should talk about the game.

[LaLiLuLeLo]

No, we should talk about sandwiches.

http://www.washingtondeli.com/Sandwiches.jpg
We are talking about the game. Quiet!

[GTShotoKen]

We should talk about the game.

Sounds like a good idea to me. :lol:

Now carrying ideas from the lost versions of RE4 it seemed like the team really wanted to go back to thee roots of the mutative viruses of the RE universe.

I wonder if any talks of the progenitor virus will surface in RE5? Has Wesker produced a new virus derivative from it and incubated it inside Sherry (just assuming who the woman is in the glass tube) for 10 years?

I'm guessing the idea of the progenitor virus being a living entity all it's own was pretty much scraped to become Las Plagas, but that story element seemed very intriguing.

I do hope we see more of Wesker's new employeer in this title and that the RE team actually gives this organization a true name and face.

It's so hard to make assumptions since RE4 left the story line open to anything.

[makeitlookreal]

LaLiLuLeLo,

There are no questions about racism to be brought up about this game. If certain people don't like it then they don't have to purchase, rent, or play it. However, the rest of us who realize there is no racism in this game will be enjoying tremendously.

It really strikes me odd that certain people who oppose racism (everyone should oppose racism) also don't truly want a colorblind society. If we had a colorblind society it would not matter what color or race the good guy was and what color or race the bad guys were. However, since some people still want color to be part of society they get upset about a game like this.

Let me be blunt, the enemies are all going to be evil mutant zombie creature monsters in this game. As long as they are NOT HUMAN there is no racial issue, period.

Do you think I would complain if there was a single black guy battling in a Swedish town of all white zombie monsters? Of course not! I would be happy to see the black guy shooting up all the white zombies, because they were zombies!!!

Tremendous progress has been made in the past forty years. Right now, black people have just as many opportunities as white people. For goodness sakes, my town has a black mayor, tons of black businessmen and women, and black people work all the same jobs as whites.

Is there still some racism? Of course. There is racism against whites, racism against blacks, and racism of all kinds. But the past is the past. We need to move beyond the past and realize this game is NOT even POSSIBLY racist in anyway.

In my opinion, we are "creating the controversy" by speaking so much about this topic. No controversy should exist here and I think we are creating a controversy where none should exist.

[LaLiLuLeLo]

Again, you completely missed anything I said. And I pretty much agree with everything you just said. The only difference is, while I 100% agree that there shouldn't be an issue about the imagery, the fact is, it's there, because while you and me are at the place where it shouldn't matter, it still matters to a lot of people, because the history is still there and the people who lived through that history haven't died off yet. Society as a whole isn't ready, that's all.

I'm not saying capcom or RE5 is racist, I'm saying they need to be careful about the imagery of their games, however good they may or may not be.

Gamers might be ready because we're a younger generation on the whole, and we had tolerance hammered into our heads, and as far as video games go we're quite indoctrinated with singlehandedly slaughtering massive legions of whatever the freak of the week happens to be. Whether it's innocent people, terrorists, demons, or demon terrorists, we're used to the virtual violence. But the games are getting realistic enough graphics now that game companies have to really pay attention to what the hell they're doing. And don't tell me that having good graphics is more important than social responsibility, because that's retarded. Games have as much of a responsibility now as TV and Movies to be socially aware, I'm not saying they have to be politically correct, but they should put some effort into being sensitive to their public, if not moreso than movies and tv because the user/audience is an active participant in the mayhem.

[julps31]

I think Lali summed it up perfectly i post #261. You can't deny that it looks a lil odd when you got one white guy killing tons of black folks (that don't really look like zombies lol). Especially when (like he said) racism is still apparent to many people in the u.s.

[LaLiLuLeLo]

Thanks julps. If at the very least it doesn't raise an eyebrow then...I dunno go read some american history. Doesn't even have to be that far back.

[julps31]

Yea an not to mention blacks are the minority in video games...i swear this is the most black people i've seen on screen at once in a game!! lol. And look whats happening to us lol (slighty joking haha). Not calling it racist either but I can see how some people could easily find it offensive.

[makeitlookreal]

LaLiLuLiLo,

Then the difference between the two of us comes down to one thing. I don't think anyone has the right NOT to be offended. As long as someone's rights are not being violated if they are offended by something then they simply should not play it or purchase it.

Quite frankly, if there are people offended by this game then too bad. They are the ones that need to grow up and carefully analyze the game to see that it's not racist. If they don't care to intellectually GROW UP then that is THEIR fault and not the fault of the game developers.

Quite frankly, those people who lived through the horrible periods of US history need to realize times have changed and adapt.

By the way, tolerance was never pounded into my head. I do not "tolerate" anyone. I just realize everyone is human, everyone is created equal, and everyone has the right rights regardless of their race. There is nothing to be "tolerant" about. In my opinion, you can be "tolerant" and still be racist. You are simply, "tolerating" the people you are racist against, but you may still secretly hate or despise them.

Maybe it's from watching tons of scifi shows with sentient extraterrestrials, but the fundamental concept people need to understand is that any sentient lifeform has the same rights as anyone else.

[LaLiLuLeLo]

You misinterpreted my use of the word tolerance. Anyway. Quiet time now.
Sshh.

[Jay Gee]

+rep to Lali for mad, well articulated PWNAGE.

[makeitlookreal]

Daahhhhhhh

[GTShotoKen]

Lali simply cares if people are offended by this game. I don't care, because if they are offended then they need to WAKE UP to the modern age we live in.

If you didn't care you wouldn't worry to post on the matter (and you've had a lot to post)...

Disagreeing with the sentiments of others is fine, but at least understand them. That's what's important.

[clockwork]

yeah the punch in the trailer is awesome!

[Fazares]

this game has some impressive gfx for sure...the gameplay looks re4 like...but with more characters on screen...

[VG Aficionado]

THIS POST IS BLANK

:look:

[Fazares]

just pretend it didnt happen...ahahha

[LaLiLuLeLo]

nothing to see here...

[Shadow Voa]

This is why MILR is being ignored. He is single handedly ruining my favourite thread.

Damn him...

[Xerxes]

Are they in Africa or something because I just see relentless killing of black people if they aren't.

[VG Aficionado]

Some say it could be Haiti.

In any case, Chris doesn't kill black people for the sake of it. But the press won't know better.

[LaLiLuLeLo]

Judging by the english everywhere it's very likely I think....

[Xerxes]

Judging by the english everywhere it's very likely I think....

Very Likely. Black people do make scary ass zombies.

[Fazares]

i can just say the location is quite original and unprecedented.... it really looks like africa to me....i like the way theyr developing it....btw....he will probably end in a classic underground lab or something.....past re games docet...lol....
about the racist thing...thats plain stupid....if so... spanish guys should protest becuz of what leon did in re4....haha...

[LaLiLuLeLo]

Boogie man! He gon' getcha!

[Xerxes]

The media is going to screw this game like they did Loco Roco they are going to have a field day with this.

[LaLiLuLeLo]

It's gonna be awesome. Hhahahahaha.

[Fazares]

they screwed loco roco....?

[LaLiLuLeLo]

The mojos look like black-face rastas. It crossed my mind for a split second but that game is so innocent I ignored it. That was just people reaching for something to yell about.

[VG Aficionado]

To be honest, I think zombies should sue Capcom for so many years of giving them such bad reputation :dur:

[Segitz]

To be honest, I think zombies should sue Capcom for so many years of giving them such bad reputation :dur:

Not only them, but also George Romero et al!!!

[curryking1]

You know another thing, I'm sure in Casino Royale when Daniel Craig, clearly a white alpha male, abuses those black Africans in the embassy, and shoots one of them in the chest, there was also a mild uproar.

The thing is this one has the capacity to get more people miffed because no one will take the time to understand the context of the game, which is kind of disappointing and that anger about it will last longer just because it's a videogame and videogames are a like a generational target for weakly started controversy. Just because they aren't as understood and there is no one to speak for it or to defend it (fairly as other mediums would like books or newspapers or films) on a grand public scale.

I'm sure for Casino Royale once the anger tried to reach mainstream it easily and quickly shattered into nothingness when people knew of James Bond, knew the character, knew the universe, knew the idea behind it.

[AC!D]

You guys know the sad thing is we play games to escape the reality of our sometimes shitty lives and then comes politics to kick your ass right back into reality! I HOPE THIS GAME DOESN'T GET BANNED:(

[TrueVCU]

I can see the segment on CNN now:

"Videogames promote anti-third world attitudes"

[Segitz]

You guys know the sad thing is we play games to escape the reality of our sometimes shitty lives and then comes politics to kick your ass right back into reality! I HOPE THIS GAME DOESN'T GET BANNED:(

I don't think, it would be banneed because of this in Europe and Japan... Maybe the US though, as we have seen with GTA and the Haitians...

Those lobby groups WANT to see racism in such media, so they can complain, it is not the other way round. Usually, mainstream media avoids those issues, but if one can misinterpret it for his own use, one WILL do it...

There are strict laws in Germany on what is allowed and what is not. Since this is not a game that spreads racism et al., it will not be banned because of this. Maybe because of violence (RE 1 to 3 were "banned" because of this) and some other stuff I cannot dig into right now, but not because of hatemongering

[makeitlookreal]

I think this game is going to be great. It puts a NEW twist on Resident Evil.

[julps31]

The sells of this game is gonna go through the roof in the rural south lol. ;) Lol I'm sorry...can't help myself.

:pointer: Back on topic.

[OG_Monkey]

To be honest, I think zombies should sue Capcom for so many years of giving them such bad reputation :dur:

lmfao

[VG Aficionado]

Poor zombies :( They're victims. Victims, I say! :pinky:

[Pluto]

For Resident Evil 4 it was the Spaniards, and now for Resident Evil 5 the zombies are now Africans..

Capcom is trying to relay a message to their fans of which ethnicities they disfavor! Dun dunn dun.

[yoshaw]

Let us guess what's next on Capcom's list...

Indians?
Pakistanis?
Afghanis?
Kazakistanians or Borat zombies?

:laugh:

[VG Aficionado]

Hopefully lawyers, referees and encyclopedia sellers.

[Fazares]

hey...i m the ps3 lawyer....hey....

[Kiosko]

Jack T would be perfect. It could be set up like the greatest game ever played. (The story with the human hunter who brings them to his island, feeds them, and proceeds to kill them), but with zombies!

[LiquidEagle]

Actually, if these enemies aren't human, then it IS racist, because Capcom's saying the Human race should kill the zombie race -- black and white (and Asian and anything else) aren't races :-p

The color of skin doesn't change your race, and people putting this in the context of skin color as if it's really trying to say something are the people who are watchdogging too much, and they're propagating the very thing they're speaking against by constantly bringing it up to people.

While I agree with LaLi that the imagery is there (though white vs. black is common imagery even when not talking about people, it also just makes it easier to see who's who :-p), and it conjures up some bad feelings in people who were from a past era, I think it's for everybody's benefit that we stand up for this game and defend progress where a white guy killing a black guy isn't instantly KKK propaganda or something -- this game sure as shit isn't The Birth of a Nation, and the people who would dare try to say that need to have their heads checked.

Like Gandhi said (this is turning into a lecture ;)), "You should be the change that you want to see in the world." (or something resembling that) That quote speaks for itself, IMO, and applies to this kinda situation as well as damn near any other life situation...

Anyways, sorry for bringing up stuff from like 2 or 3 pages ago but I got to this thread late and I usually have something to say about this stuff :-p

[NickSCFC]

Pakistanis?


:laugh:
Yeah baby!

[curryking1]

Let us guess what's next on Capcom's list...

Indians?
Pakistanis?
Afghanis?
Kazakistanians or Borat zombies?

:laugh:

Why'd you only take it out on the South Asians and brown folk! I think you're racist!

[makeitlookreal]

The censors will get a hold of this game and make the main character sing songs and give hugs to all the zombie monsters.

[Fazares]

zombies are more likely to hug him....

[Fats]

^Good. Then more people can play it.

[makeitlookreal]

No, it's not good. Because people can play it anyway. Anyone who is offended because it's based in Africa and he is killing black zombie monsters needs to grow up.

[karibu]

OMG...

But if Leon was replaced by Michael Jackson, it would be allright I guess?

[makeitlookreal]

Karibu,

Yep. It would be just fine. People just seem to get all upset when it's a white person killing black zombie monsters.

Quite frankly, if they made a game with a black man killing white zombie monsters I would have no problem with it.

[LiquidEagle]

OMG...

But if Leon was replaced by Michael Jackson, it would be allright I guess?

Michael Jackson's a special case on his own... I don't think Michael Jackson doing anything besides singing or dancing will be alright, because he just screws up anything besides those two. :laugh:

[LaLiLuLeLo]

Yeah because that's all his parents taught him. He's SOOOO messed up in the head...poor man.

[LiquidEagle]

That's what happens when you don't have a childhood... :(

Anyways, back to RE5... I don't think Michael Jackson could ever do what Chris Redfield does because he'd have to door kick kids who are trying to kill him.

Now REALLY back to RE5: This game looks sweet, but does it look like this game's gonna be hard as shit to anybody else? I honestly don't know if I'll be able to get anywhere in this game from the trailer...

[Viper]

Now REALLY back to RE5: This game looks sweet, but does it look like this game's gonna be hard as shit to anybody else? I honestly don't know if I'll be able to get anywhere in this game from the trailer...

You played RE4, right? If you made it though that, no reason why you won't through RE5.

[LiquidEagle]

I watched my friend get through RE4 but played it myself minimally (probably the first hour or so tops), though I do own the PS2 version now (I got it for free back when my PS3 pre-order got pushed to the later shipment), so I will play it one of these days all the way through.

This game still looks quite a bit harder to me though...

[Fazares]

are u joking?...from the trailer...i can already see me going through the zombies with chris own mighty punch.....

[makeitlookreal]

RE4 was indeed a hard game.

[yoshaw]

Why'd you only take it out on the South Asians and brown folk! I think you're racist!

Err Curry.

If you hadn't noticed already. I am from the region. If anything, I'm doin' the opposite of racism by expecting to get south asians a role in RE6. That'd be really cool, IMO, let alone racist.

My sincerest apologies, if what I said offended you or anyone else from the region. I really didn't mean it in a racist way, at all!


Now REALLY back to RE5: This game looks sweet, but does it look like this game's gonna be hard as shit to anybody else? I honestly don't know if I'll be able to get anywhere in this game from the trailer...

Don't know about hard(-ons, lol) :P

but I think its gonna give every 3 out of 10 people playin it some sort of a panic attack. Just look at how many people are attacking you in one scene. That's OMG level of panic right there for anyone with a handgun.

[AC!D]

I watched my friend get through RE4 but played it myself minimally (probably the first hour or so tops), though I do own the PS2 version now (I got it for free back when my PS3 pre-order got pushed to the later shipment), so I will play it one of these days all the way through.

This game still looks quite a bit harder to me though...

Aww man you have to play this game Resi 4! I have never liked resident evil games especially Outbreak 1 and 2 they were really shit but Resi 4 is one of the top 5 games on ps2. Definatley one of the greatest games i've ever played and if your worried about difficulty then try it on easy first like i did cause you will come back again and again to play this game over and over it's that good!

[yoshaw]

I watched my friend get through RE4 but played it myself minimally (probably the first hour or so tops), though I do own the PS2 version now (I got it for free back when my PS3 pre-order got pushed to the later shipment), so I will play it one of these days all the way through.

This game still looks quite a bit harder to me though...

Liquid, seriously, WTF dude?

Go play RE4 before you write another post in this thread mate. You're missing on one of the best games of this decade. R'mber the panic thing I was talkin about in my earlier post? RE4 will give you a taste of that on a small scale.

While RE5, I'm expecting, should be legions above RE4's chaos. Oh n I can't wait to do that awesome punch of Chris'. Go try Leon's German Suplex and Roundhouse kicks in RE4 till then. It's FUN!

[GTShotoKen]

Playing RE4 on professional wasn't that bad but it truly brought the tension back from the older titles. I seriously ran out of ammo every chapter of the game. I was forced to get good with the knife. The worst situation was during the scene where you are with Luis in that old shack and you have to defend Rachael against the hords of Zombies tryiing to break in.

Try fighting the chainsaw women and El gigante both after that with only 25 pistol rounds and 10 sniper rounds...SUCKS (you don't have to do it, but it's rewarding)!!!

[curryking1]

Yoshaw man I was joking lol! I make racist comments all the time, even about t3h browness. I'm brown, I'm Indian. I was aware you're from the region though :D

You see, two levels to racism, the fun part of it to make jokes, and the less fun part where people mean it and want to physically and mentally hurt people, I'm on the first :)

[LiquidEagle]

Liquid, seriously, WTF dude?

Go play RE4 before you write another post in this thread mate. You're missing on one of the best games of this decade. R'mber the panic thing I was talkin about in my earlier post? RE4 will give you a taste of that on a small scale.

While RE5, I'm expecting, should be legions above RE4's chaos. Oh n I can't wait to do that awesome punch of Chris'. Go try Leon's German Suplex and Roundhouse kicks in RE4 till then. It's FUN!

Yikes, I'm no RE n00b!! :-p

I've played or watched pretty much all of RE4 so I know the kind of tension it brings, but you have to understand -- I have a huge pile of games that need to be finished and this is one of many. I know it's great, but truthfully I've always been more of a Silent Hill guy -- don't worry, I'll play it though. For you. ;)

[LaLiLuLeLo]

Just so everyone knows, I'm not gonna stop making jabs at Resident Evil 5, because it makes me laugh.

WHITE POWER!!!!

[Segitz]

Hot Shower!

[LiquidEagle]

:laugh:

White Power Bill would approve!

http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/c/cc/STUCKBYWHITEPOWERBILL.JPG

[LaLiLuLeLo]

TOTP
:laugh:

White Power Bill would approve!

http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/c/cc/STUCKBYWHITEPOWERBILL.JPG

Hahahahha

But...I'm..white...

[TrueVCU]

Hahahahha

But...I'm..white...

RACE PARADOX

[GTShotoKen]

Ok people now this is completely off-topic....

If you have anything related to the RE universe to talk about it would be much appreciated. :)

[LaLiLuLeLo]

Awww come on we're just having a little fun. We all know/expect Resident Evil 5 is gonna be great. We don't know much else about it though.

[VG Aficionado]

We'd better keep going off-topic, because it's likely that RE5 won't be released until late 2008 or 2009 :ohno:

[LaLiLuLeLo]

I know, right? :laugh:

[GTShotoKen]

damn, you got me there :lol:

This might turn out like the killzone thread all over again where there was nothing to talk about so the madness ensued....

[GTShotoKen]

Ahh to fell nostalgia again...I've recently pulled out my dreamcast and started to play all of my great games I completely forgot over these few years; one of them happens to be RE2.

Damn, I completely forgot how retarded the ink plot system was lol. I was so used to saving constantly in RE4 that I forgot that saves are in short supply early on in RE2 lol.

[OG_Monkey]

Let us guess what's next on Capcom's list...

Indians?
Pakistanis?
Afghanis?
Kazakistanians or Borat zombies?

:laugh:

you know...for an Asian company there has never been ASIAN zombies lmao. Why cant there be asian zombies? huh huh huh lol

[TrueVCU]

Fighting through zombie-infested tokyo would literally be the HOTTEST THING EVER.

[OG_Monkey]

lmao, it really would. I wont mind a RE set in Tokyo, or even the Dead Rising sequel to be in Tokyo

[Fazares]

i wonder why they havent done it yet......

[Pluto]

Fighting through zombie-infested tokyo would literally be the HOTTEST THING EVER.

I can see it now..

Setting: Nerdy "Otaku" Convention.

Fighting through hordes of furry Pokemon cos-players and greasy skinned fatties. THAT would be truly horrific.

[Epix]

Hysterical RE5 trailer and Heavenly Sword demo review -

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/arti...nd-Other-Stuff

[makeitlookreal]

Maybe the head evil zombie monster is Robert Mugabee.

[Smokey]

when is RE5 coming out?

[Smokey]

We'd better keep going off-topic, because it's likely that RE5 won't be released until late 2008 or 2009 :ohno:

is that just PS3 or box as well :(

[Segitz]

is that just PS3 or box as well :(

There was just some talk by the director, saying he wouldn't count on it being released in 2008... Nothings set in stone yet!

[Leedogg]

when is RE5 coming out?

2009 :cry2:

[VG Aficionado]

The RE5 staff said that they weren't exactly rushing the game, and they did say that they wouldn't release it anytime soon. When they were asked how likely a 2008 released date would be, I think they said that we should rather expect it by 2009 or 2010.

[Smokey]

fuck PS4 will nearly be out by then???

[LaLiLuLeLo]

I'd really appreciate it if they didn't bother me with any goddamn trailers if the game is 3 years away.

[cliffbo]

The RE5 staff said that they weren't exactly rushing the game, and they did say that they wouldn't release it anytime soon. When they were asked how likely a 2008 released date would be, I think they said that we should rather expect it by 2009 or 2010.

if that is the case, i doubt what we are seeing at the moment

[Leedogg]

I'd really appreciate it if they didn't bother me with any goddamn trailers if the game is 3 years away.

well look at Killzone a trailer was released in E3 of 05. It was a CGI trailer, but a trailer none the less. :)

[Smokey]

I'd really appreciate it if they didn't bother me with any goddamn trailers if the game is 3 years away.

ill agree to that

[NickSCFC]

fuck PS4 will nearly be out by then???

lol

Seriously though I can't see why Sony or anyone else (OK maybe Nintendo) would need to release another console for atleast 8 more years.

[Shadow Voa]

By 2010 or 2011, Wii 2 and Xbox 720 need to make their debut. I wonder if Sony's PS4 will see the light of day that early...

[curryking1]

^It'll probably not encounter nearly as many bumps in the road as the PS3. They've seen what damage just a little bit of overambition can do, even if it all may have assorted impression of effects in the future, even on just a few fronts and also assuming they are going to use a Cell derivative and partner with nVidia again. I'm sure people will actually be completely comfortable with BluRay by then, and also hoping that there's like 100 or more GB BD discs for that time.

[GTShotoKen]

I'm sorry for bumping the thread since this technically has nothing to do with RE5, but it's definitely a cool tidbit in the RE series (And I didn't know where else to post this :lol:):

It's cool to actually see someone get there hands on RE1.5. I didn't even know it was over 80% complete even, since I've only heard rumors of it.

Here's the article:

Description:
The members of S.T.A.R.S. have now returned safely. It was revealed that the medical corporation "Umbrella" has been performing biological experiments. The top executives of Umbrella were immediately arrested, and the company was completely shut down. Now referred to as "The Umbrella Incident", media around the world has made aware their biological experiments and conspiracies of terrorism. The nightmare was thought to be over until...

Raccoon City was showing signs of abnormality once again. It began with a skin disease. The citizens demanded an investigation, as they suspected it was related to the Umbrella Incident. The government assured them that the case was closed and the skin disease was unrelated. But within a few days the disease spread and hundreds of lives were lost. Then it happened…the dead began to rise and a new nightmare was just beginning.

Elza Walker, 19, a female college is accepted to Raccoon University and heads off to Raccoon City on her motorcycle not knowing what is about to face her. Crashing her bike, she manages to evade zombies on the street and reaches the Raccoon Police Department. But it wasn’t the safe haven she expected as the entrance gate is about to be crushed down and policeman zombies are squeezing in.

Leon Scott Kennedy, 21, has just finished police training and is now a rookie cop. With all of the trouble on the streets, Leon waits for rescue teams on the police department helicopter pad. But as his comrades succumb to the zombies with each minute passing by, he decides to find an escape route to ensure his own safety.

Can you survive the horror?

PlayStation Museum Factoid:
In an interview with former Capcom Digital Studios' Art Director, Glen Schofield, we found out that Capcom held a contest to re-name Bio Hazard, the original Japanese title. An employee at Capcom Digital Studios submitted the winning entry "Resident Evil."

Exclusive PlayStation Museum Review:
Eleven years after development started, The PlayStation Museum jumped at the chance to kill zombies in what is regarded as the last official build of Capcom’s Resident Evil 1.5. Resident Evil 1.5, also known as Resident Evil 2 Prototype amongst many hardcore gaming enthusiasts, was shelved when development was approximately 80% complete in favor of a re-design to what ultimately became the hugely popular release of Resident Evil 2. Resident Evil 1.5 contains vastly improved graphics, character design, and smarter enemy AI over its predecessor. This time simple barriers do not stop the hordes of zombies: if there is a small opening under a door, the zombies will crawl through and stop at nothing to get at you.

The game features two characters: Elza Walker and Leon Scott Kennedy. Elza Walker is slightly easier as the zombies are fewer but she starts off with less ammunition. Leon Scott Kennedy begins with more ammunition but the amount of zombies and degree of difficulty have increased. During the re-design, Elza Walker was removed entirely from the game and replaced with Claire Redfield.

The graphics in Resident Evil 1.5 are nothing less than stellar and truly sets the ambiance for the game. The zombies are in full force and vary in size and style: there are fat zombies in police uniforms (ate too many donuts?), zombies in tattered clothing, and even zombified K-9 dogs. The zombies have been programmed with improved AI and attitude! Not only will they crawl under openings or open automatic doors, but shoot at them and they will get angry and make a dash for you. Make sure you have enough bullets and room to run before shooting a zombie. To make the game more difficult, the zombies are relentless and are not keen on giving up on dinner. If shot with a pistol, the zombies will be stunned but will have no problem getting back up and having their way with you. A zombie can only truly die when their head is blown off.

Resident Evil 1.5 sports some of the best Resident Evil boss character designs. The game includes a giant powerful mutated zombie that will grab a large pipe and club you to death, an inhuman spider-like zombie that spits out venom or will tear your limbs off if you get too close, and even a large mutated ape which will grab onto the ceiling and swing around to avoid you while pummeling you to death.

Although the retail release of Resident Evil 2 received near perfect scores and quickly became one of the PlayStation’s best selling games, it is difficult to understand why Capcom decided to re-design Resident Evil 1.5. The game has all of the qualities of the original Resident Evil but intensified. The PlayStation Museum has spent more time playing Resident Evil 1.5 than we have with the retail version of Resident Evil 2. If there are any faults with Resident Evil 1.5, it would have to be with the difficulty level but this could have been easily tweaked. The PlayStation Museum is confident that Resident Evil 1.5 would have received a glowing 5 star review and become a worthy addition to the PlayStation library had it been released.
Overall PlayStation Museum Rating: 99%

http://www.playstationmuseum.com/Games/BETA/BTA-076.htm

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All footage available for it (with sound):

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I'm definitely wondering why we didn't get this game instead of the RE2 we know and love now?

Any thoughts people?

[\m/]

Found this in the RE2 entry on Wikipedia.

Resident Evil 2 began development in 1996 shortly after the original game and was originally scheduled for a March 1997 release. However, as the game was approaching its release date, the developers were dissatisfied with the resulting product. Rather than releasing a game they were unhappy with, the developers took the risk of developing the game again from scratch. This scrapped version of the game was later dubbed Resident Evil 1.5 by Capcom. This prototype version of the game starred Leon S. Kennedy from the finished game and Elza Walker, a prototype of Claire Redfield. Like Claire Redfield, Elza was a motorcyclist and college student, with the only difference being her appearance and the fact that Elza had no ties to any established character from the previous games. Other supporting characters from the released game also appeared in Resident Evil 1.5. For example, Marvin Branagh, a minor character who gets killed off early in Resident Evil 2 played a major role in the prototype, helping Leon and Ada escape. The settings of the game were also significantly changed, with the police station in the original prototype having a more contemporary design.

There were dozens of sketches done for the main boss of the game, G, and there were even final bosses planned before him, entitled "Zeiram" and "Gorgoda".[citation needed] When they were scrapped, their designs were incorporated into G's, however, little remains of their original appearance. Some of the sketches of G differ so drastically from the used version that they appear as if they could be entirely different creatures.

[nMIK-3]

While waiting for the Resident Evil 5 enjoy the just released trailer of the upcoming fully animated movie Resident Evil: Degeneration (http://mivadika.com/forum/video-games/1872-resident-evil-degeneration-movie-trailer-out.html).

[Jay Gee]

By 2010 or 2011, Wii 2 and Xbox 720 need to make their debut. I wonder if Sony's PS4 will see the light of day that early...
Microsoft's already gone on the record stating they don't want the 360 to be a 5 year console. Considering how poorly the thing is made, they should take 10 years just trying to make the thing function consistently.

With the Wii selling like it is, there's absolutely NO reason to rock the boat. Nintendo should ride the Wii out for as long as they can. They're making money on both fronts (Console and Handhelds), so introducing a new console after 5 years when your current one is selling like crazy is IMO, ridiculous.

[curryking1]

While waiting for the Resident Evil 5 enjoy the just released trailer of the upcoming fully animated movie Resident Evil: Degeneration (http://mivadika.com/forum/video-games/1872-resident-evil-degeneration-movie-trailer-out.html).

Wut?!?! Lolololol :P

Watching now :P

Woah sick, it's actually like Resident Evil as the games... that's frigging awesome. I also like that they've built a fanbase on the what I believe are terrible C movies in the trilogy of RE's with Jovovich. I'm sure that could help this movie to do even better than it would without those movies before it.

This looks very interesting, definitely want to see how this pans out.

It's frigging amazing because now they are playing on characters from the games.. wow.. Claire and Leon? That's huge, that's totally good for more popularity of those characters, this is a damn smart move I think.

[Sephiroth_VII]

Nice, finally a good RE movie. No surprise it had to get out of Hollywood to get better.

[GTShotoKen]

While waiting for the Resident Evil 5 enjoy the just released trailer of the upcoming fully animated movie Resident Evil: Degeneration (http://mivadika.com/forum/video-games/1872-resident-evil-degeneration-movie-trailer-out.html).

Thanks for the link nMIK-3!!! ;)

[Sephiroth_VII]

One error in that link:

Capcom just made available the movie trailer of Resident Evil: Degeneration and as you can see it looks very promising and graphic wise as good if not better from Square Enix' Final Fantasy VII: Advent Children!

NOT.

[curryking1]

It was a youtube video man, it looked pretty quality from what I made out as well anyhow.

[Sephiroth_VII]

Yeah, but not on par with AC, IMHO.

[curryking1]

It did look pretty hawt tho! ;)

Can't wait to see Leon in some FMV knocking some heads.

I hope it sticks to zombies from early RE games, but I have a feeling it will have maybe both the Plagas and the zombies? Maybe a new 'threat' entirely or along with others?

[CrumCon]

I'd really appreciate it if they didn't bother me with any goddamn trailers if the game is 3 years away.

Maybe they are afraid to release the game on PS3, because it may flop hard even tho the game could turn out to be the best RE.

I would not be surprised if they actually release Xbox360's version next year.

Many 3rd party seems to be very afraid to release their high budget games on PS3. im would not be surprised if Square push their FF to 2010