How to kill a PS3. Is it really possible?

[joe]

"Starting temperature was 100F and Gradually increased to 120F over the last 24hours. Incidents Strangley enough we thought this would prove to be the ultimate area to kill the console, and to our .. "


http://www.ps3vault.com/how-to-kill-a-ps3-console-1975

[woundingchaney]

-link added

[masteratt]

Why did you lock the other one?
That one had a link.

They tested the PS3 in three extreme environments with 180hours of non-stop movie and games and surprise, surprise- It survived all.

PS3 4 da king yay woo!!! Ps3 is the best woo i love sony woo!!!11 360 wud failz in a sexond lolz!!

*still waiting for proper PS3 games*

[VG Aficionado]

Sony has to be really proud of having built such a complex, yet robust system. I wonder if the cheaper it becomes, the more it will fail though. At least, the build quality is worth the price.

[Sephiroth_VII]

^Masteratt6, spoiler tags please, lol! It's more fun to read it without knowing.

[Passive]

lol and i was worried about my console getting hot where i had it :P silly me. nice read. i agree with some of the comments, put the 36 through all that. Although they will need a few of those to do each environment test XD at least 3 because they wont last through them.

[yoshaw]

Put Wii and 360 to the same test.

FINISH THE FIGHT!! << :laugh:

[Viper]

Put Wii and 360 to the same test.

FINISH THE FIGHT!! << :laugh:

Yeah, it does seem kinda lacking with no context.

Anyone remember that torture test the PS2, GC and Xbox was put through? How the hell the GC still worked I'll never understand.

The PS3 is definitely built better than the PS2. The Wii seems to have the same build quality as all N products (read: damn near indestructible) and the X360....well, we know about that already.

[Sephiroth_VII]

Who's willing to sacrifice their 360 for a test... Anyone?

[Jay Gee]

It's not a question of who's willing to sacrifice their 360. The damn things are ticking timebombs.

[TrueVCU]

I always figured killing a PS3 would require an improbable assortment of sacred objects and precious metals.

[Phoenix]

I'm impressed with how well the PS3 can stand up to damage despite its no doubt super intricate insides, but I guess it's pretty clear that Sony didn't pay much attention to the PS3's size, so they could be more careful with durability than they usually are.

[curryking1]

^The PS3 is about as packed in as it can get. There's literally (to my weakass non-engineering brain) no more space to be given up with the current size of chips and whatnot.

I'm pretty sure they did look at the size. Yes, I know it's big.

Edit - Let me rephrase that. They clearly did look at the size.

[VG Aficionado]

The PS3 is rather huge, but considering it has built-in universal PSU and HDD, and the cooling system works like a charm, I can see why it's so big. They'll surely be able to make it smaller and lighter sooner than we think. I'd bet we'll see a PSThree much sooner than PSOne and PSTwo in their respective timelines.

[masteratt]

Let's hope not.

More money it costs equals waiting more for a sexier version please.

To help with the situation:

Fatty PS2
US: October 26, 2000
Europe: November 24, 2000

PS2 after a anorexic diet
September 2004- It gets revealed.
November 2004- Markets get it.

[FantasyGhost]

http://blog.us.playstation.com/2007/08/13/ps3-stress-test/

[user friendly]

^I was reading that a few hours ago and I still can't believe they posted that in their official blog.^

Does anyone actually believe this test really took place? How is anything (non water proof) going to last 64 hours in a sauna? Where did they get use of a freezer van for 108 hours.

Also, where are the pics or videos? I don't think ps3vault actually performed most of these tests and I think it was a little premature for Sony to post it in their blog.

That said, the PS3 is one of the best consoles built.

[Smokey]

i really dont think the ps3 is THAT huge. just a heavy mofo

[TrueVCU]

It certainly has the fattest ass of this generation.

[Leedogg]

and we use to laugh at the size of the Xbox... now look at us now LOL

[Sephiroth_VII]

The xbox was big and ugly. The reason it was so ridiculed was that it has the ugliest design I've ever seen. PS3, on the other hand, has a really nice, professional design.

...The first one who mentions a George Foreman grill in response to this post will be killed.

[Leedogg]

yea you can kill a PS3, but only a 0.2% chance


According to Chris Deering of Sony Computer Entertainment, the failure rate for the PS3 is extremely low at 0.2%, far below the Xbox 360.

The industry standard of 3 to 5% is being handled very nicely by Sony as it seems that they have put out an extremely high-quality and sturdy machine with the PS3 that is not prone to breaking down in any way shape or form.


The Xbox 360 on the other hand has been a nightmare in terms of failure rates with the rates up to around 33%. Microsoft spent $1.5 billion to extend the warranty of every Xbox 360 to 3 years and is trying to repair the problems as of this writing as they continue to do so.

Deering stated that the failure rate of the PS3 is "around 0.2%."

This is amazing compared to the "red ring of death" which has placed so many Xbox 360 consoles in the grave. Apparently Sony is where the quality is at with the PS3.


http://ps3center.net/story-815.html

[Fillibuster]

yea you can kill a PS3, but only a 0.2% chance

What's 30% minus .2%??? Muahahaha

[cpiasminc]

Does anyone actually believe this test really took place? How is anything (non water proof) going to last 64 hours in a sauna? Where did they get use of a freezer van for 108 hours.
Actually, it's the freezer test that's most suspect to me. The sauna one is actually somewhat believable. Many apartment complexes which have gyms also have dry heat saunas free to use for tenants. The page specifically mentions it as a heat sauna, which implies that it's a dry sauna (and that is the common kind because it demands the least upkeep), as opposed to the Western "steam room" or the Finnish sauna where you pour water on hot stones. They also didn't really turn up the heat much at all, since it should have been more than possible to turn it up to 170F, and yet they only went up to 120F.

The freezer is just... ummm... I don't know. I don't know how you'd get ahold of something like that, and furthermore for so many days, quite likely giving time for cold soak. That's the one that seems weird to me. All said, though, if you can fight condensation, cold is generally not bad for electronics -- the biggest reason they warn you against it is because there really IS no guarantee that you can prevent condensation at really low temperatures. Lesser reasons may include seizing up of mechanical parts like the drive spindle.

[Jay Gee]

Ok, who is Chris Deering and why can I trust his figures?

[Segitz]

The freezer is just... ummm... I don't know. I don't know how you'd get ahold of something like that, and furthermore for so many days, quite likely giving time for cold soak. That's the one that seems weird to me. All said, though, if you can fight condensation, cold is generally not bad for electronics -- the biggest reason they warn you against it is because there really IS no guarantee that you can prevent condensation at really low temperatures. Lesser reasons may include seizing up of mechanical parts like the drive spindle.

Hm, since the PS3 heats up the air pretty fast, I don't think, condensation is that much of a problem, as warm air can carry much more water than cold... Also, we don't know the humidiy levels to begin with.

Only if the PS3 stays in there for a while to cool down, water condensates inside it (because the air inside it is also humid, and as said before "loses" water while cooling down).

And, the assembly of the PS3 also "fights" it to a certain degree. Since the mainboard is built in upside down (and so the hot chips), where the HSF is (and on the upper side, there's no ventin holes).

If a device wants a "TUEV Siegel" (german FCC), which is not mandatory afaik, it needs to operate well within -20 to +50 degrees Celsius (I am not entirely sure about that, but it is something along these lines, as we can get these temperatures in Germany in extreme weather). Also, looking inside the manual of most electronics, it states at which temperatures and which humidity levels a device can be used with no worries. I don't have the PS3s manual handy right now, so I can't tell what numbers it says.

Theoretically, low temperature will only increase the PS3s lifetime (again, if condensation is no problem), as is with nearly every piece of electronic equipment (not HDDs though, they suffer at too low temps).

[Viper]

Ok, who is Chris Deering and why can I trust his figures?

I'd be cautious of Deering and numbers of any kind. At one point he suspected the PSP to retail for $500.00.

[VideoGame mania]

Sony nailed hardware, not so much with games.
MS failed at hardware, got games.
What a turn around from the last gen.

[BruceWayneIII]

Sony is only 9 months NA / 5 months PAL into this generation. I'd say they are certainly showing a lot of power going into their first birthday: innovative software like EyeOfJugdment, LittleBigPlanet, HOME and a lot of really great first party games. Microsoft's first 9 months didn't look remotely like that.

[VideoGame mania]

LBP is a 2008 title. The thing is 3rd party support is almost nonexistent for PS3 which pisses me off. 3rd parties supported x360 during its first year with: Oblivion, GRAW, Lost Planet, Dead rising, Saint Row, Splinter Cell, ect. Nobody gives a bone to Sony, all they have to rely on this year it's themselves.

[Jay Gee]

I'd be cautious of Deering and numbers of any kind. At one point he suspected the PSP to retail for $500.00.
Good looking out, Viper. Thanks.

[LaLiLuLeLo]

Unlike some other video game consoles, the PS3 has to be actively battered to malfunction.

[Viper]

When just turning the unit is cause for malfunction, can it really be included in the test?

"Hey, HEY! Don't touch the X360, it was working an hour ago, you move it and we may have to break out the towels and start the whole damn test over again tomorrow."