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advancemonkey
03-20-2003, 10:14 PM
Is the U.N. relevant anylonger. I don't think so they won't help the world from tyrants like it was meant to. The U.N. is nothing but a debating society. it can give aid but other than that it is worth diddly squat.
Michael Bluth
03-20-2003, 10:16 PM
It is relevant, we're just not obeying their orders right now, which will come and bite us in the ass later on.
yamiyuuki
03-20-2003, 10:16 PM
Screw the U.N....They're probably being bribed by one of the nations against us...
Michael Bluth
03-20-2003, 10:18 PM
Who would there be to bribe? It's not like it's a country or anything....... it's just a group of leaders. Unless you're refering to certain countries' leaders being bribed, but if that were the case we could easily out-bribe them.


Think of them as Nintendo when it comes to bribing, and the US as Microsoft ;)
advancemonkey
03-20-2003, 10:18 PM
Originally posted by Phantagram
It is relevant, we're just not obeying their orders right now, which will come and bite us in the ass later on. maybe, but they would not have done anything anyway. We are not the most popular country in the world anymore.
yamiyuuki
03-20-2003, 10:19 PM
True, and that's what I meant, Adam....
Michael Bluth
03-20-2003, 10:22 PM
Originally posted by advancemonkey
maybe, but they would not have done anything anyway. We are not the most popular country in the world anymore.

When were we ever?
advancemonkey
03-20-2003, 10:29 PM
^^ wern't we popular before ww2. I mean before Hitler was even in power.
smellslikenintendospirit
03-20-2003, 10:33 PM
The U.N. was created to maintain world peace and order. And yet they can't stop Bush from starting a war. Even congress can't stop Bush from continuing this war. The judicial branch is helpless as well. And as for the regular people like you and me, we don't even exist. This, by far, is the strangest democracy I've heard of.
Michael Bluth
03-20-2003, 10:35 PM
Congress gave Bush power to declare war; or was that only for Afghanistan?
yamiyuuki
03-20-2003, 10:36 PM
True...We were popular in the 1700 and 1800's..think of all the immigrants...
advancemonkey
03-20-2003, 10:38 PM
Originally posted by smellslikenintendospirit
The U.N. was created to maintain world peace and order. And yet they can't stop Bush from starting a war. Even congress can't stop Bush from continuing this war. The judicial branch is helpless as well. And as for the regular people like you and me, we don't even exist. This, by far, is the strangest democracy I've heard of. He got approval from Congress, the u.n. won't do crap for the security of this world. The U.N. should get rid of the veto capability for it ever to be a real democracy.
Relient J
03-20-2003, 10:44 PM
I think that the UN is still relevant today, perhaps more so than ever. As has been said by commentators on the news lately, we're no longer isolated by two oceans as we once were. I think we need to very much a part of the international community, to make sure that things like WWII don't happen in the future. While diplomacy may have failed this time, we still need to hold out hope for it in the future.
Michael Bluth
03-20-2003, 10:48 PM
Originally posted by advancemonkey
He got approval from Congress, the u.n. won't do crap for the security of this world. The U.N. should get rid of the veto capability for it ever to be a real democracy.

If they got rid of the ability to veto, how would it be a "real democracy"?
advancemonkey
03-20-2003, 11:08 PM
^^^^ the vote even if a majority can be vetoed by one opposing nation. In a democracy majority wins. Yes the pres. can veto but congress can override that veto. I don't no what that makes the U.N. but it surraly it is not a democracy.