Will Sony PSP top GBA?

[XBOXSP]

I have been lookin at soem specs of PSP and they look awsome. I think it might be some competetion for GBA(unlike ngage) I just got a GBA and i hope it was worth my money. so far is is. but im gettin feelins i shoould have waited for PSP.

[bobo_ess]

THe gba might actually have some competition.

[Blaksmoke]

No, and it won't top the DS either.

[Bloodman]

It's not a question if PSP will top GBA, the question is if PSP will top DS.

[XBOXSP]

yea well not much has been said about DS so we cant sayin anything

[bobo_ess]

It's been said that the DS will not directly compete with the PSP. But it will I think.

[neo999955]

Well the DS, GBA, and PSP aer all suppose to be different platforms, and the PSP shouldn't really compete with either of them, but it'll still have an effect. I think it will eb quite successful, but i don't think it will dip into either the DS or GBA markets since most 18+ gamers don't own a GBA, but they might want a PSP, specially since it has so many abilities like MP3 and what not, plus the price tag will be high, not for teenage and younger crowds the BGA's fan are morely made of. So i think it'll take 10-25%.

[bobo_ess]

They are trying to snatch what nintendo is making a killing off of.

[Michael]

I don't think they will, not being a fanboy, but the truth is that if the Psp does good anywhere, it will be in mainly the US...you know what...there are too many factor people can put in this...Psp amount of games...the interface, like GB or like a PDA...there isn't much anyone can say right now, but all I can say is Nintendo does handhelds right, and Sony really hasn't done it before, another fact is that(except in Japan) people really don't us the full extent of a portable device...so it comes down to...are you really willing to pay extra for a portable device with 10,000 things I don't need....but hey...it's up in the air...

[XBOXSP]

hwo much is PSP suppose to be?

[neo999955]

^ between 300 and 400 i think. It's meant to be for adults, the twenty something gamers, teens and kids, and college students, will have a tough time buying it, I could, but I'll stcik with the DS.

[Relient J]

I personally don't believe that the PSP will beat out the GBA in sales. The PSP seems to be targeted more towards the adult gamers while the GBA seems to have a much broader range. Everything from Pokemon to Final Fantasy is available on Nintendo's current handheld. Plus, the GBA will have a definite price advantage and a large catalog of available titles on its side.

I really do see it more as a potential PSP vs. DS battle.

[r33hash]

Im still sayin the PSP is gonna be 199 bucks, if not right at release, then pretty soon after.

[Pro A.]

It isn't a question of whether or not the PSP will succeed. The question is how long this system has to live. Every competitor since the Game Gear has been mercilessly slaughtered.

[bobo_ess]

That's how it seems but then again it's sony, they stole the show once, what's gonna stop them from doin it again? Yes nintendo has a stronghold, but then that's confinement for them.

[r33hash]

None of the other companies had the sheer money power like Sony has. They have money to blow.

[bobo_ess]

Don't forget the other things they could fall back on if they fail.

[speed stick]

Don't be saying which one is better until after E3 when everyone knows the proper specs of each.

[bobo_ess]

So true.

[Classic Trogdor]

I have been lookin at soem specs of PSP and they look awsome. I think it might be some competetion for GBA(unlike ngage) I just got a GBA and i hope it was worth my money. so far is is. but im gettin feelins i shoould have waited for PSP.

Frankly, I could care less if the PSP was powerful enough to handle Doom III. I don't want to play 3D games on a handheld. First of all, 3D games aren't all that great on a small screen (4.5 inches in this case). Second of all, I feel that handheld consoles were intended for 2D games. At this point, the Gameboy Advance is the only thing keeping 2D gaming above sea level. Look at Tomb Raider on the Ngage. Even if it didn't have hoards of gameplay glitches, I still wouldn't touch it with a ten foot pole. I'd rather play Metroid. Side Scrolling of course.

In this way, I feel that the PSP will mainly be used as a "port machine", handling rehashes of games from the PS2. This is what the Gameboy Advance has been doing for the Super Nintendo. Hopefully, the DS will provide some outlet for developers to create an original and fresh gaming experience, instead of simple ports and rehashes. This may give gamers who don't want to play "Grand Theft Auto: Mobile Highjacker!" an alternative on their handheld.

[XBOXSP]

^^^ you made a big point there

[Nights]

True but. Nintendo knows that most people want 3d portable gaming. The DS will be a stripped down N64 for a reason. (Not for 2d) Plus the PSP will have above ps2 2d graphics *more ram*.

[Relient J]

Everyone wants portable 3-D gaming? I'm not so sure about that. Perhaps we should do a poll. Maybe it's because I'm actually old enough to still have an original NES with a gray Zapper, but I'm loving the 2-D games being released for the GBA.

[majik ninja]

The PSP won't be competeing with the GBA it'll be competeing with the DS and whatever one is priced cheaper and has more games at release will get a stonghold over the other (like the PS2 has over the XBOX and GC)

[Viper]

"As such, there is likely to be some cross-over between the PSP and Nintendo GBA/DS markets, but, analysts seem to believe, not enough to define them as directly competing platforms."

"a lot more willing to pay $99 than $400", NWQ Investment fund manager Peter Boardman who believes that the PSP will be sold at a far higher price point than the DS.

[Nights]

Viper amazes me... The true Nintendo fanboy...

Prices for the new handhelds are as followed

Nintendo DS $199 <-Includes dual screans, slightly inferior to n64 graphics, and a touch screen
Sony PSP somwhere betweein $249 and $299 there isn't any recent speculation higher than $299 and more and more companies are leaning torwards the $249 price point. <-Includes mp3 player which also means high quality music for games do to mp3 coding, between Dreamcast and ps2 polygon graphics for the first generation, more special effects then both are capable of, cool design, better bigger single screen with higher resolution than the ds.

Gameboy SP will be like the original gameboy does a lil while after both of the new systems are released.

There's the accurate comparision.

I'll own all of course...

[Viper]

Viper amazes me... The true Nintendo fanboy...

Prices for the new handhelds are as followed

Nintendo DS $199 <-Includes dual screans, slightly inferior to n64 graphics, and a touch screen
Sony PSP somwhere betweein $249 and $299 there isn't any recent speculation higher than $299 and more and more companies are leaning torwards the $249 price point. <-Includes mp3 player which also means high quality music for games do to mp3 coding, between Dreamcast and ps2 polygon graphics for the first generation, more special effects then both are capable of, cool design, better bigger single screen with higher resolution than the ds.

Gameboy SP will be like the original gameboy does a lil while after both of the new systems are released.

There's the accurate comparision.

I'll own all of course...
Well your figures come from you and mine are quotes.


Who was just owned now?

[Nights]

Everyone wants portable 3-D gaming? I'm not so sure about that. Perhaps we should do a poll. Maybe it's because I'm actually old enough to still have an original NES with a gray Zapper, but I'm loving the 2-D games being released for the GBA.

I don't know if this matters to you.

However the PSP will have Dreamcast level 2d graphics. Which are the best available to this date still. So Guilty Gear can be perfectly converted onto the PSP. Just like Capcom VS SNK 2, Guardian Heroes, etc...

[Nights]

Well your figures come from you and mine are quotes.


Who was just owned now?

ROFLOL

EA, Sega, CNN, and etc have quoted the 249 pricing.

Namco claimed 299 pricing.

You can pull up the quotes yourself. Neither of us are owned because Sony is still silent. That's my opinion anyway.

[Viper]

Last Sony price was from Chris Deering at $466.00


So I have Sony saying it and several economic analysts saying it.....hmmmm.

[Nights]

Thanks for proving my point.

*rolls eyes*

[Viper]

I just showed that Sony and many economic analysts are saying $400.00+ and that proves your point how?

[Nights]

Nobody knows...

So the new information points to 249-299
the old information 400-700

It's a toss up but I always go with the latest rumors if I am going to go buy rumors. (Meaning not a direct confirmation on the price from Sony's themselves)

[Viper]

You go by rumors and I'm going by a statement from last week by a credited economic analyst.

[Nights]

There not official prices by sony

That makes them RUMORS.

Mister dictionary eluded us again.

[Viper]

Well then you take rumor from EA and I'll take rumor from Sony.


I think Sony knows how much its handheld will cost better than EA.



It's ok, pick yourself up now.

[Nights]

Well then Sony didn't know anything just the cost. I'm guessing that is the cost.

They tell 3rd party developers the price secretly to make games.

So I'm guessing EA has the best knowledge out of anyone on the price of the handheld.

Plus is it just me or don't sony systems sell below cost...

Cost will of course be lower since the announcement cause the price of technology always goes down...

[Viper]

*shakes head*

Why would Chris deering say $466.00?

[Nights]

Don't you remember how much the PS2 was going to be.

Same thing...

Nough Said

[neo999955]

The cheapest the PSP will be at launch is $299, when you consider everything packed into the sleek and very small system, can you really sell it for less? The DS will not be $199, $149 tops, but most analysts belive it'll ship for $99, and the GBA will drop to $59.99, and the GBASP will drop to $79, although that might not happen right away, not too far off.

[r33hash]

Its gonna be $199.99. Ill wager 250 posts on it.

[Relient J]

I don't know if this matters to you.

Not really. Nintendo's definitely the only company out there that's really producing what I'm interested in. Does that make me a fanboy? Maybe, or maybe it just means that I know what I like. And I like Nintendo.

[Classic Trogdor]

YES! We've established the fact that the Sony PSP will cost between $199 and $700. I feel much more educated now.

Either way, we can probably all agree that the DS will cost less than the PSP. Whoa, we agree on something! Let's be friends now!

[disrupter006]

of course the psp will top gba...the only reason is by time they get it out the new gameboy will probably be out...and the new gameboy will b topping psp

[Michael]

I don't think the psp will outdue gameboy advance sp...many...I do mean many fans detest this idea, or already said there not willing to pay over 250 dollars for it...they better launch a final fantasy or GTA because I don't think it will sell.

[Glenn2K4]

...they better launch a final fantasy or GTA because I don't think it will sell.
i think it is safe to assume that the PSP will launch with a kick ass game for launch.

it has marketshare to steal here
:revolve:

[Viper]

hahahahahah

http://psp.ign.com/articles/513/513734p1.html

hahahaha



Sony never even says a price for the system either. Dodging the Battery issue, dodging the price issue. Not good.


By the way.....Nintendo DS = $150.00

Eat it Sony.

[Pro A.]

Lead-pipe cinch. Nintendo has already won. Its lineup for the first six months is solid gold. All they need now is another Castlevania: SOTN-like title and they have the game in the bag.

[speed stick]

By the way.....Nintendo DS = $150.00

Eat it Sony.


Good price. Probably $200 Canadian. Fine with me!

[Markopolo356]

Its gonna be $199.99. Ill wager 250 posts on it.

I second that!
Oh, and by the way, what fetures does the PSP officially have? (dvds, mp3s, ect.)

[Viper]

Not without a loss of $100.00 - $150.00 each they won't.



For a list of specs, check the E3 board.

[alpha]

If Sony can suck the souls of mainstream gamers they can win anytime. PSP has a mp3 player? What's the point? It's a handheld for games not music. It just a waste of money! The DS is something new. It's not the same thing as the GBA it has Dual Screens and all of that mumble jumbo stuff. All the PSP has is the GBA with a MP3 player and improved graphics. Nothing special. Besides if I wanted a GBA I would get the new one whenever Nintendo releases another one.

[bobo_ess]

People can probably get a better mp3 then what sony will have on it. I heard the DVD on the PS2 wasn't that good to begin with.

[Cofey]

People can probably get a better mp3 then what sony will have on it. I heard the DVD on the PS2 wasn't that good to begin with.
Ugh, it's absolutely awful. The quality is below shitty and every time you watch a movie you have to input a bs password for no reason whatsoever. I NEVER watch dvds on my PS2.

[Viper]

hahahaha, I haven't heard those yet.

[pac4life]

yeh, and the sound for the dvd player? wow...its like dolby -6.1
xboxsp, you should wait for the next game boy, which will probably be shown at next years e3...trust me, you want to get that. it will probably be better than PSP (graphics wise, battery life wise) and cheaper.

[Michael]

I could have told you that, you can't take them from the Pc, and you can only buy the Sony only compacted version on it's special media...with possibly no special features or that great picture...

[r33hash]

Nothing to do with DVDs. It plays these little discs called UMDs (Universal Media Discs). But, they will be able to play both games and movies. As for other features, I have no clue.

[XBOXSP]

does DS use disc???

[Viper]

Cartridge. Less data, but less battery consumption and expenses.

[r33hash]

Why happened to using memory sticks? I thought for sure that one of them would use something like that.

[Hisham]

DS is backwards combatible so it will have to have cartriges. I think the psp won't win, but it will shake nintendo a bit. Since nintendo owns like 100% of the handheld market I think at least 20% will go to sony.

[Relient J]

^ That's ok. Competition in the market makes for better products and reduced prices. I'm all for it. I love Nintendo, and I want them to stay in the lead, but I wouldn't mind seeing them have to work harder to maintain it.

[r33hash]

Now, this screen really makes the DS look sexy:

http://www.gizmodo.com/archives/images/e32004/ds_baloon_game.jpg

Here are the cartidges in comparison to the GBA ones.

[fishbonetaher]

i am going to have a very hard time keeping track of my DS games, i am already having a hard time finding by GBA games, they are so small and can easily be misplaced.
who cares, I WANT MY DS. the best thing abou the DS is that all its extra function are already implemented that way you won't have to buy different peripherals to have hi-fi capabilities, etc.

[Relient J]

^ That's a very good point. Microsoft could learn a lesson from this. Who wants to buy an XBox and then have to pay extra money to have the DVD-playing feature unlocked?

[Glenn2K4]

I have ONE Good Question.

1) Why do gamers worry about how much money a company will lose producing a product....unless you're an investor, or employee it really doesnt matter now, does it....for a gamer, all that matter is the retail price of the product, rite?

anybody?

[Michael]

I have ONE Good Question.

1) Why do gamers worry about how much money a company will lose producing a product....unless you're an investor, or employee it really doesnt matter now, does it....for a gamer, all that matter is the retail price of the product, rite?

anybody?

Because your favorite gaming company that you lived with for years could go out of business....I do it, because I'm interested in the industry...I'm sure many other people do that too...

[Glenn2K4]

yeah but its almost like people are like...

oh the XBOX will fail because its losing so much money...
oh the PSP will be expensive or will lose so much money...

and yes i care about the industry but at the same time, I really dont care how much M$ loses when it comes to the XBOX, nor do I care if Sony loses a ton of cash by packing in the PSP with all of these hi-tech features...

when it all boils down, I REALLY care about if I like the product is how much they are selling the product for, and what I am getting for my money. Sony and M$ are surely not going out of business anytime soon, so I just say "enjoy the competition" and reap in the benefits of what you get for your money, despite the company's loss.

[GleefulFarewell]

Who would want a handheld that you have to buy memorycards for(im refering to the PSP)

[Viper]

yeah but its almost like people are like...

oh the XBOX will fail because its losing so much money...
oh the PSP will be expensive or will lose so much money...

and yes i care about the industry but at the same time, I really dont care how much M$ loses when it comes to the XBOX, nor do I care if Sony loses a ton of cash by packing in the PSP with all of these hi-tech features...

when it all boils down, I REALLY care about if I like the product is how much they are selling the product for, and what I am getting for my money. Sony and M$ are surely not going out of business anytime soon, so I just say "enjoy the competition" and reap in the benefits of what you get for your money, despite the company's loss.3 reasons why I care.

1. Price structures such as that can almost be classified as a monopolistic practice resulting in possible rulings that could vastly affect the entire company and the games you like to play.

2. Look at what is happeneing to MS. they lost so much on teh xbox, they are having to take major price considerations into the new machine. No harddrive (it's about 99.99999% official), no backwards compatability. They are having to remove so much that made it popular to start with because it cost them too much this time around. And $2 billion in the red is not something you want to report to investors as they may refuse future products of similar types. Meaning Xbox3 won't happen if losses amount for Xbox2 as they did for Xbox.

3. Less money for new consoles, handhelds, games, expansions, acquisitions...etc. Less money for them = less product for you in the long run.