FIFA 08 - PSN Demo out Thursday

[NickSCFC]

That's right, PSN demo out next Thursday!

http://footballcommunity.ea.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=883259#883259

http://www.3djuegos.com/juegos/2300/fifa_08/fotos/avances/fifa_08-265980.jpg

[Raitei]

is that today thursday?

because thats pretty sweet.
this is the first fifa thats shown a lot of promise in a while actually.

[Segitz]

Hmmm, US PSN or what?

It definately didn't make it to the German PSN today, and actually, Germany is the biggest football country in the world (I know, the brits beg to differ, but get your facts straight :D, but I couldn't care less about soccer)

[OG_Monkey]

GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAAAL L!!!:pinky:

[Leedogg]

Its not in the USA PS Store according to the Playstation Blog

[Raitei]

by the look of it, it'll be coming next week

[Fats]

Aye, obviously next week.

[NickSCFC]

Yep Thursday 13th

[Fats]

What a ridiculously diverse soundtrack for a Football game, good stuff.

http://uk.psp.ign.com/articles/819/819269p1.html

[LaLiLuLeLo]

haha. you called it football.

[GTAce]

Wir Sind Helden - Endlich Ein Grund Zur Panik (http://youtube.com/watch?v=tjiC6xM5nAM)

:banana:

Dont like the song lol.
But the band is cool, especially live.^^
Nice to see some German music in there.

[VG Aficionado]

haha. you called it football.And he's right. This is not America, bitches! :pinky:

Not that I possibly care about football and/or soccer and/or rugby anyway.

[KRA]

Not that I possibly care about football and/or soccer and/or rugby anyway.

especially from EA :)
give me PES8 demo and i don't need anything else :) unless it's full version :)

[Fats]

Since the ball touches your foot 99% of the time, I'd say it makes perfect sense to call it FOOTBALL. I never understood why American's referred to their watered down Rugby game as Football. In fact, I'm about to Wiki it right now!

[LaLiLuLeLo]

the games are cousins that both evolved from rugby.

But yeah I never understood it either. Haha.

[Fats]

Yeah, just read it there now. I love Wiki. :)

[KRA]

Since the ball touches your foot 99% of the time

well i don't think it's 99% of time but if you touche the ball it should be your foot.
so yeah football makes more sense than soccer.
and american football is just like master chief :)

[section]

Gentlemen, I didn't do this (http://forums.e-mpire.com/showpost.php?p=1551693&postcount=22) post a few weeks back for nothing.

So no, real football/soccer ISN'T DERIVER FROM RUGBY. Learn your facts :)

Some sites say that the soccer was born in China in 2600BC, others say it was the Mayan/Aztecs who kicked the heads of their enemies in game of football. Anyhoo it was early on distinguished as a real skill to only use your foot to carry the ball / head / whatever round available.

And yes, it's stupid to be anal about this because I don't watch/like football that much either :P

That's largely because of the very strict offside rules, they strip the most excitement out of the game for me.

I mean, c'mon, a guy who is quick and swift can't actually use that ability that much because the other team usually makes an offside trap for him anyway.

[KRA]

And yes, it's stupid to be anal about this because I don't watch/like football that much either :P

That's largely because of the very strict offside rules, they strip the most excitement out of the game for me.

I mean, c'mon, a guy who is quick and swift can't actually use that ability that much because the other team usually makes an offside trap for him anyway.

well quick guy has to think and watch what defenders do.
it just adds to the gameplay.
besides
the lack of offsides would be much worse.
there could be one guy or even more standing all the time in oponnents goal.
and they don't even have to be quick then.

[Leedogg]

its been delayed in EU......


EA has confirmed that the FIFA 08 demo, due out on PlayStation Store today, has been delayed in Europe and Australia

The news came in the form of a message board post on the official forums:

"We're sorry to have to tell everyone that the FIFA 08 demo won't be launching in Europe today as was expected. Although the demo is being released in North America there were a couple of issues which we couldn't get ironed out in time to release today despite working through out the night to get these sorted."

Those of you in North America can download the demo right now. It features seven playable teams including AC Milan, America, Barcelona, Bayern Munchen, Manchester United, Marseille and NY Red Bulls.

The demo has also been delayed on Xbox Live.

The popular football/soccer title is due to be released on October 9th in North America and September 28th in Europe, ironically where it's most popular.


http://www.psu.com/FIFA-08-demo-delayed-in-Europe-News--a0001315-p0.php

[NickSCFC]

FIFA 08 demo now up on Xbox Live Marketplace, no idea why it's not on PSN yet.

http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/7827/dsc00685ir7.jpg

[Fats]

It was supposed to be delayed on both for Europe. It's still being released on the US PSN sometime tonight. The PSN store generally isn't updated until later Nick, that's why it isn't up.

[masteratt]

I've played it guys (X360).

It has quite fast but 'solid' gameplay that keeps you on your toes and concentrating but suffers YET AGAIN from typical FIFA problems (at least they are problems to me).

-Choppy animations, breaking the flow of the game.
-Defending is hard as sometimes as people ten to go 'through you' (again, i think this is animation related).
-The keeper keeps doing that same one handed flying save.
- The ball is 'stuck' to your players. I know they advertised for ages about how free it was...Well, I'm sorry, it just isn't.
You can't for example slide tackle as someone is pulling back their leg to stop them shooting, he just has to finish the shot as the ball is "stuck" to him (again, animation related? lol).

It's definitely a playable game though but I didn't enjoy my time with it.

[Fats]

Mass confusion. It's up in some European counties (UK included) and America but not in others. I'll download it when I get home.

[Raitei]

hilarious. the continent gets screwed again :P

well, theres only one thing fifa has going for it, and thats the full analog control compared to Pro Evo's 8 way system, though its probably to cater with the d-pad that everyone seems to love using

[Fazares]

hmmm...it looks godly and plays like real football...i m amazed....though i m waiting for pes 2008 as well...even if,looking at some gameplay vids,it really looks and plays a lot like the ps2 games....i hope i m wrong...at least for the physics and gameplay..:-/

[OG_Monkey]

i played it....and thats as far as im gonna go

[venomv]

That good, huh?

[KRA]

hmmm...it looks godly and plays like real football...i m amazed....though i m waiting for pes 2008 as well...even if,looking at some gameplay vids,it really looks and plays a lot like the ps2 games....i hope i m wrong...at least for the physics and gameplay..:-/

godly and plays like real football ?! yeah right.. and you are on high or what ?!
and what is this ps2 crap ? what is so (fuck i hate it) next gen in this demo ?!
pes6 plays 10000000 times better than this. (physics, gamplay, animation...collison wise)
so what is wrong with gamplay videos that looks similiar to this?

and i will never understand people writting that pes graphics suxx compared to fifa.
fifa isn't looking that great. nor pes looks that bad.
and i wouldn't even notice when i play there are some little dudes and it's
the way how they move shoot interact with ball and others ect. is important.

yeah i am probably pes sucker...

[masteratt]

Let's not make it a FIFA vs PES again.

Yes I too never understand how anyone likes FIFA over PES but KRA, there are many things we'll never understand so let's just let them enjoy it and leave the thread in peace.

Amen.

[curryking1]

Why are people playing FIFA!? Why do you want to play EA's FIFA!?

Why god, why!?!? Lol, this is in a half joking, half serious manner. Just that's what I think of EA's soccer games... Not trying to start anything either...

Peace and love! :D

[KRA]

Why are people playing FIFA!? Why do you want to play EA's FIFA!?

Why god, why!?!? Lol, this is in a half joking, half serious manner. Just that's what I think of EA's soccer games... Not trying to start anything either...

Peace and love! :D

i was hopeing for some football fix waiting for pes...
but that doesn't work at all...

[Gegenki]

Hated it - But maybe its cause I suck at Fifa and had to turn passing assist to semi because it kept deciding it was going to pass to marked players.
I said it last week while playing x360 and I'll say it again, Using analogue for football annoys the hell out of me - I always pass to the wrong player using analogue for some reason. :( I hate change

[masteratt]

It's not just you man lol
I know people who are buying a PS3 along with PES just because of the D-pad option which is the way pros play.

I've never seen a good player using analogue on a PS pad with PES.

Maybe that's what they meant by '3 times better' :p


There might be a thingy that lets you use PS pads on X360 but shhh, we don't want to stop PS3 from selling lol

[curryking1]

There might be a thingy that lets you use PS pads on X360 but shhh, we don't want to stop PS3 from selling lol

No one do this! Nooo!!! NEVER EVER!
:whip:

[OG_Monkey]

i kick....i pass...i dribble....i kick again...oh tackled!...recovers, gets ball...goes in....

GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAALLLL

[Fats]

Right, without the elitist attitude regarding PES (Which I'll be buying) I think that FIFA 08 plays a decent game of Football. I've been hearing reports of awful graphics but they're just soild in my opinion. I've noticed slight slow down issues in close-up's, in the tunnel before they come out on to the pitch and it can be quite weird as the game itself is fairly fluid.

I think the people downplaying the graphics are the guys who believe that EA are constantly fucking the Playstation 3 over with shoddy ports. Even if they try to take a step in the right direction, they're still blasted for it.

The loading times are great and I like the fact you can still have a one on one while you're waiting for a game to load up.

[Sephiroth_VII]

Remember that the demo is loading from the HDD, which probably won't be the case with the full game.

[Fats]

Yeah, I realise that, but hopefully there will be an install option on the full game.

[Sephiroth_VII]

It's EA; not likely. They didn't even offer to install FNR3, which has crazy loadtimes.

[Fazares]

ahhah...people here are biased against ea for sure...when their only good games are fn3 and fifa2008 this year....this elitest approach to pes annoys everyone imo....i play the damn game since goal storm aka we1 on the psx...and i always knew fifa couldnt compare till next gen...when konami made the same mistake as ea did in the past.... stopping the evolution...making a game that plays and looks a lot like the ps2/xbox1 ones...konami is the one that could make a uber realistic football game...but if fans encourage them to make little update(as ea did in the past)instead of really changing the game for the ps3...then were screwed...
i kick....i pass...i dribble....i kick again...oh tackled!...recovers, gets ball...goes in....

GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAALLLL


btw..the game is set on the minimum difficulty level....

[Sephiroth_VII]

I didn't really understand your post:

Are you criticising EA for making crappy games, or us for complaining?

[Fazares]

u should complain that konami isnt doing a thing to evolve....and yes... fn3 and fifa 08 are the only good ea sports games...imo
i remember playing we when everyone was all about fifa....then there was elitism....we were happy to play a realistic game that really evolved from a generation to another unlike old fifas...but now...i just hope that by next year konami will release a pes2009 entirely based on next gen hardware...both physics and gfx wise...

[KRA]

u should complain that konami isnt doing a thing to evolve....and yes... fn3 and fifa 08 are the only good ea sports games...imo
i remember playing we when everyone was all about fifa....then there was elitism....we were happy to play a realistic game that really evolved from a generation to another unlike old fifas...but now...i just hope that by next year konami will release a pes2009 entirely based on next gen hardware...both physics and gfx wise...

now i see that i have this senseless bias towards ea.
and yeah konami... fuck this pes it doesn't matter pes is great as it is.
you should forget everything and just make something completlly new.
different because this is the best way to evolve.
better change the name too.
so you could compete with uber fifa.

[Segitz]

Whoa... I played the demo yesterday and what do I see??

Crappy framerates where the least of the problem. The graphics are BAD for an 7th generation console game, that it isn't funny anymore. I mean... I don't even know where to start. The animations suck (they are on par with Fifa 98, which I still have here in my drawer), the replays look bad and ... I don't know...

When I started the game, the sound just "exploded". While the players started to walk onto the green, the sound just reverbed like hell (my average volume is about 30, but this was MUCH TOO loud) (I cannot say what happened, I sounded like a mic feedback, but my headset was switched off).

And how the fuck does this game determine which player I need to be? I know, right analogue stick and such, but what does the game do??


Man, this sucks BIG TIME! NHL is much better (although the controls are very different from the old ones, framerate is also chuggy as hell)

[NickSCFC]

This whole ON-RAILS thing in FIFA 08 is getting to me now.

Just conceded 2 goals because of this! (Playing as Barca v Man U)

1. Ronaldinho loses the ball near to his own penalty spot and the ball rolls slowly towards the touch line, I can't chase the ball because he's too busy standing with his hands on his hips looking up at the sky. Finally manage to switch to the player I weant and end up giving a free kick away, C Ronaldo floats a ball into the bottom left and the keeper just stands there, no dive or anything.

2. Keeper this time, ball comes over (coulda swore it was offside), Giggs chests it down on the goal kick line, for some reason my keeper walks off his line with his hand on his hips looking at the floor and Man U score.

Where it's a bug or what I don't know, certainly something stupid animation-wise. Scoring more now, last two goals were volleys, shots off the fllor seem to go wide on me most times, but volleys are always bang on target.

I'll be getting PES 2008

[Fazares]

now i see that i have this senseless bias towards ea.
and yeah konami... fuck this pes it doesn't matter pes is great as it is.
you should forget everything and just make something completlly new.
different because this is the best way to evolve.
better change the name too.
so you could compete with uber fifa.
with ur attitude u ll be playing the same damn game on ps4...lol....lets hope that when they wont have to release the current gen versions along...then they will finally focus on the real next gen versions...both gameplay and gfx wise...peace...
ea sucks...but konami is sucking more for not making a real next gen game as we5 was for the ps2...

[KRA]

with ur attitude u ll be playing the same damn game on ps4...lol....lets hope that when they wont have to release the current gen versions along...then they will finally focus on the real next gen versions...both gameplay and gfx wise...peace...
ea sucks...but konami is sucking more for not making a real next gen game as we5 was for the ps2...

yeah everybody sucks and the only differece between them and us is that we swallow it.

[Fazares]

ahaha...how old are u...?^^
i bet when i was playing goal storm u were just born..lolll....j/k

[Segitz]

Kids, calm down :D

But seriously, Fifa 08 is very disappointing. As well as NHL sort off... I was playing a game (Ana - Ott), which ended up as a draw... Now penalty time... I managed to score about 2 out of 20 shots (strange controls) and so did the computer... But strangely, the first 15 or so shots, nobody hit, and EXACTLY when I hit the goal, the AI did too... WTF, is this what "adaptive AI" is about?

[section]

yeah EA ejaculates and the only differece between them and us is that we swallow it.

Nicely done there.

[Fazares]

Kids, calm down :D

But seriously, Fifa 08 is very disappointing. As well as NHL sort off... I was playing a game (Ana - Ott), which ended up as a draw... Now penalty time... I managed to score about 2 out of 20 shots (strange controls) and so did the computer... But strangely, the first 15 or so shots, nobody hit, and EXACTLY when I hit the goal, the AI did too... WTF, is this what "adaptive AI" is about?
i didnt have the same experience as u....i dont know...

[Gegenki]

I dunno Fazares.
I don't think fifa is all that revolutionary. I haven't really played it since fifa 98 - i had a few games on 04 but thats about it. The first thing I realised was that it was basically the same controls as pro evo but with square and circle switched which has never been my experience with fifa. I was suprised to see cancel in the button options, one of the greatest things about pro evo - the super cancel, though I'm not sure it works in the same way in fifa.
I don't see fifa as having done anything new in the slightest. [EDIT - aside from first touch of course, but thing since sliced bread - life saver] They caught up a bit with pro evo in terms of controls and what you can do with your player. They improved the graphics. They added some cool effects, I like the way shots look in fifa over pro evo sometimes but its nothing special.
And I'm not going to lie. Pes hasn't done anything special either. TBH I prefered the shots in Pes 3 to all those after it

I think the biggest difference between fifa and pro is that when people get a new fifa they say, this this and this is different.
When people get a new pro evo they say, this feels different.

To close neither have done anything special but pro started off better to begin with.

[NickSCFC]

That last sentence of your's perfectly summed it up Gegenki.

[KRA]

To close neither have done lately anything special but pro started off with something special to begin with.

yeah i agree.
pes is always evolving maybe not so much lately.
but i am sure new one will have many nice improvments.
just look at pes thread and the list of news.
and fifa...
fifa isn't evolving. its rather like every year some other team make it.
with some random changes. with no main idea what it want to be.
yeah on the first sight it may look like it's great.
and pes is just the same all the time but com'on.

[masteratt]

PES plays differen every game

PES4 - Fast, made attacking easy, defending tough although the linear referees made tackling from most direction allowable.

PES5 - Slow and 'steady', annoying referees but this gave much more depth and the 'heavy' feel to the game meant you had to think more about how you attacked and indeed, how you defended (no more Holding X and getting the ball easily).

PES6 - This was a pretty good balance but the game is too attack minded with the AI being too defensive minded which make games against AI a chore sometimes (they pass in their back four for about 10 minutes!).


PES series doesn't evolve, it acts differently with every outing but whatever it does, it does great assuring that every kind of football fans gets their taste.

[KRA]

PES plays differen every game

PES4 - Fast, made attacking easy, defending tough although the linear referees made tackling from most direction allowable.

PES5 - Slow and 'steady', annoying referees but this gave much more depth and the 'heavy' feel to the game meant you had to think more about how you attacked and indeed, how you defended (no more Holding X and getting the ball easily).

PES6 - This was a pretty good balance but the game is too attack minded with the AI being too defensive minded which make games against AI a chore sometimes (they pass in their back four for about 10 minutes!).


PES series doesn't evolve, it acts differently with every outing but whatever it does, it does great assuring that every kind of football fans gets their taste.

well from my point of view it does evolve.
you are right there are some changes which make every game different.
but in evolution there is room for random changes.
but the rest and pes is evolving.
you can't say that every game is totally different.

[masteratt]

...I meant to say it does evolve...What the fuck, my bad.

/odd mistake.

[B Dizzle]

fifa makes my hands and eyes hurt. spongy controls and ugly players. other than that, for the first time since pes2, this may be the first time I actually buy fifa, at least to give it a real head to head against pes08.

[Raitei]

my favourite bit of the demo was the ronaldinho 1 on 1 loading screens. Thats actually quite fun, and i wouldnt mind playing the be a star or whatever its called mode, if its like that (which i think it is)

[Fazares]

PES plays differen every game

PES4 - Fast, made attacking easy, defending tough although the linear referees made tackling from most direction allowable.

PES5 - Slow and 'steady', annoying referees but this gave much more depth and the 'heavy' feel to the game meant you had to think more about how you attacked and indeed, how you defended (no more Holding X and getting the ball easily).

PES6 - This was a pretty good balance but the game is too attack minded with the AI being too defensive minded which make games against AI a chore sometimes (they pass in their back four for about 10 minutes!).


PES series doesn't evolve, it acts differently with every outing but whatever it does, it does great assuring that every kind of football fans gets their taste.
hmm u didnt understand....this small evolution is right when we r talking about games coming out of a ps2...but when u talk about a next gen game...the leap should be bigger...do u remember how we4 compared to we5?
...my thoughts?...as long as konami will release the next gen versions along the old ones....then they will keep using the current gen versions engine as basis...for the next gen ones as well...it reminds me about konami doing the same on the psx....when this console wasnt still mainstream...they just released iss deluxe(snes) with slightly better gfx...when the ps3 will be mainstream they will quit developing on ps2 and will focus on a real next gen pes...
games such as nba2k7 ps3 already proved that sports games can look and have way better physics than the ps2 counterpart...
i cant believe the ball still behaves the same way it did on the ps2 games...when a game such as motorstorm already proved that physics can be so much more advanced than the ps2 games ones...and looking at fifa08,gfx konami must update its gfx engine....fifa players already looks uncanney valley stuff just like nba2k8,nba live 08,fn3,top spin3..etc...(u can check the fifa 08 pic in the 2nd page of this thread)
konami can do it...ps2 winning elevens gfx were quite comparable,if not better imo,than ps2 fifas gfx...they just have to put more resources on their next gen game....

[KRA]

hmm u didnt understand....this small evolution is right when we r talking about games coming out of a ps2...but when u talk about a next gen game...the leap should be bigger...do u remember how we4 compared to we5?
...my thoughts?...as long as konami will release the next gen versions along the old ones....then they will keep using the current gen versions engine as basis...for the next gen ones as well...it reminds me about konami doing the same on the psx....when this console wasnt still mainstream...they just released iss deluxe(snes) with slightly better gfx...when the ps3 will be mainstream they will quit developing on ps2 and will focus on a real next gen pes...
games such as nba2k7 ps3 already proved that sports games can look and have way better physics than the ps2 counterpart...
i cant believe the ball still behaves the same way it did on the ps2 games...when a game such as motorstorm already proved that physics can be so much more advanced than the ps2 games ones...and looking at fifa08,gfx konami must update its gfx engine....fifa players already looks uncanney valley stuff just like nba2k8,nba live 08,fn3,top spin3..etc...(u can check the fifa 08 pic in the 1st page of this thread)
konami can do it...ps2 winning elevens gfx were quite comparable,if not better imo,than ps2 fifas gfx...they just have to put more resources on their next gen game....

i can't see that fifa's gfx is better than pes8.
anyway the animation in sport game is much more important for me.
and what's wrong with pes8 phisics ? have you played it ?

Let me introduce a little today about my production team, the Winning Eleven Production. How many are working? Well, I am not sure about the exact number, but let me see.....about may be 100 staffs? When we started to create a Football game 12 years ago, it was only 6 staffs, so today is totally a different world! Nowadays, everywhere that I can see from my desk, all of the staffs are working on PES. It's a fabulous sight.....We are still adding the final touches to finish PES 2008, and hope that we can satisfy all you people waiting for our new PES. Staffs are really working hard.... some even are not sleeping. I really want to see you play the new PES.....it is really something!! Well, I have to continue working, and hope that I can finish up!! Bye!"

i don't understand why do you all the time want everyone to belive
that konami is just fucking around changing only number in the title ?!
maybe wait for the game ?
or demo at least ?

[Fazares]

i can't see that fifa's gfx is better than pes8.
anyway the animation in sport game is much more important for me.
and what's wrong with pes8 phisics ? have you played it ?


ahah...u can see that by just looking at how the ball behaves....and the animation is still stuck in the ps2 era....btw...if u ever played we4(ps1) and then we5(ps2)...u should know what a next gen leap is all about..dont u...?
and fifa 08 looks way better..thats undeniable... go check page 2....:-)

[KRA]

ahah...u can see that by just looking at how the ball behaves....and the animation is still stuck in the ps2 era....btw...if u ever played we4(ps1) and then we5(ps2)...u should know what a next gen leap is all about..dont u...?
and fifa 08 looks way better..thats undeniable... go check page 2....:-)

well i have played demo and i haven't seen that close-ups
and when there were close-ups before the match the frame rate was just unaceptablle for me.
so what is this shit ? engine can make nice looking face but in shitty framerate and
i won't be seeing it anyway :)

and you want to tell me that ball in fifa08 is acting better ? nex gen better than pes8 ?
it's actually worse than pes6 on ps2 for me.
anyway ps2 era animation...
for me ps2 pes6 animation is way better than this fifa demo.
it's more fluid and it seems that there is like 1000000000 more animations.
i don't really know what would make for you next gen pes ?
and do even you know it ?

[Fazares]

haha...u will probably see in time for pes2009 or 2010...when konami will get rid of the current gen stuff and develope a new engine as they did with we5/pes1
btw ur acting just as bad as those fifa fanboys that thought fifa98 was way better than we3/iss98...
worse the pes6 on ps2..lol....sure ,fanboy...:-)

[masteratt]

I've been playing PES6 frequently since launch and I still see new animations (just the other day I saw the keeper chase the ball over the bar and then hang on the bar, swing and jump down).

Also I saw a really nice cut-scene where a keeper made a good save and the players went over to tap on the shoulder to congratulate.

The only thing new I saw on FIFA08 demo was that the players now collide and fall.....Which just makes for a funny looking game (one time three players tangled up and fell/ got up and fell for about 3 seconds lol) than a realistic one.
However not much collision detection when someone is running with the ball (see Post #23).

[Fazares]

lol...pes6 is the best currrent gen football game.....
fifa08 has a lot of collisions...and looks harder to score compared to any currrent gen game...its hard to even shoot at all sometime....just like a real next gen game...

[KRA]

haha...u will probably see in time for pes2009 or 2010...when konami will get rid of the current gen stuff and develope a new engine as they did with we5/pes1
btw ur acting just as bad as those fifa fanboys that thought fifa98 was way better than we3/iss98...
worse the pes6 on ps2..lol....sure ,fanboy...:-)

you are acting so great starting every post with 'haha' writting that new pes is so old gen and making some
strange history lessons and personal comments. every post.
and don't answering simple questions :)
yeah whatever
i am for sure fan of pes.
and will gladlly take pe2 pes6 anytime over fifa08.
and it surelly makes me ea biased as bad as fifa fanboy and other shit :)
this discution was senseless right before it started anyway.

[Fazares]

uhuh i m glad pes fanboys exist and worship a game that evolved so little... compared to the previous next gen leap.......at least....many years ago that wasnt the case...lol..
rheyr just as bad as the old fanboys loving the same fifa game over and over...:-)

[cliffbo]

FIFA World Cup Kicks Off On PS3
EA slaps Konami in the face
26 Nov 2007
Link to this: http://news.spong.com/article/14339

While international footy in the world of solid 3D fleshy things is proving pretty depressing (unless you come from a country that can actually play the game), the FIFA Interactive World Cup is getting nicely under way.

Since the PlayStation 3 exclusive event kicked off last month, an impressive 10,000 players from 25 countries have begun kicking it out over the PlayStation Network. This month, things have moved on to the first live qualifying events in Denmark, the Netherlands and Hungary.

"The FIFA Interactive World Cup is a fantastic opportunity for all football fans to show off their skills and passion for the sport with FIFA 08", said Barcelona has-been, Ronaldinho. "It is a great tournament in which you have to train and work hard to succeed – just like in real football, so I invite all fans to register and enjoy this party of interactive football."

http://news.spong.com/article/14339?cb=613

[Sephiroth_VII]

I was at the qualification for the qualification(lol) last weekend, and it was funny to see so much passion directed at a genre which holds no interest for me :)

[masteratt]

So why is EA kicking Konami in the face? lol

PES08 sold more than FIFA in case they didn't know.
Holding a tournament doesn't mean you kciked a competition in the face.
And PES tournaments are much more popular.

Some article titles :duh:

[Segitz]

I was at the qualification for the qualification(lol) last weekend, and it was funny to see so much passion directed at a genre which holds no interest for me :)

I was at a LAN party once with a friend (I didn't know that many people there, but I was a great ~5yrs older than anyone, except the big brother of the one who rented the site)... It was Counterstrike time (back when 0.6 was new^^) and we (the older ones, 5 people) vs. the youngsters, won every single game (against 10 people). Man they were pissed^^ I mean REALLY pissed!

There are just some people who cannot lose (I just don't care, but I am happy when I win).