Orange Box - 10/10 EDGE [Archive]

NickSCFC

10-24-2007, 02:22 PM

Orange Box becomes the 7th game in EDGE's 14 year history to get a 10/10

Orange Box - 10
Ratchet & Clank - 8
Folklore - 5
Eye Of Judgement - 4
Wipeout Pulse - 7
Jericho - 5
Conan - 7
Race07 - 7
Juiced 2 - 6
Monster Hunters Freedom 2 - 7
Pursuit Force Extreme Justice - 6
Ace Combat 6 - 8
Dewys Adventure - 6
MySims (wii) - 6
Tingle DS - 6

the boney king of nowhere.

10-24-2007, 02:25 PM

cool. i really wanna play portal.

this thread will be ruined by people complaining about the r&c score by the way.

JasonXe

10-24-2007, 02:26 PM

Would you happen to know the other 6 games?

NickSCFC

10-24-2007, 02:29 PM

Would you happen to know the other 6 games?

Super Mario 64 (1996)
Zelda: Ocarina of Time (1997)
Gran Turismo (1998)
Halo (2002)
Half Life 2 (2004)
Halo 3 (2007)

masteratt

10-24-2007, 02:35 PM

What the hell is EDGE smoking?

Only a 10?
They should have gone off scale for the first time in their history and rated it 11/10.

Passive

10-24-2007, 02:39 PM

what the hell is NickSCFC smoking? :P this thread should be in the Video games section.

\m/

10-24-2007, 02:40 PM

I'll agree with all the 10/10s except for Halo and Halo 3. They're good games, but not worthy of 10s, especially the new one. No game that takes 5 hours to complete deserves 10/10.

NickSCFC

10-24-2007, 02:40 PM

No one bothers with the VideoGames section.

NickSCFC

10-24-2007, 02:41 PM

I'll agree with all the 10/10s except for Halo and Halo 3. They're good games, but not worthy of 10s, especially the new one. No game that takes 5 hours to complete deserves 10/10.

MOst of the EDGE Halo 3 review talked about multiplayer.

masteratt

10-24-2007, 02:42 PM

And the video editing features, that's the only reason everyone LOVES the game, otherwise it's meh.

Orange Box on the other hand is just pure gold, it reminds you why we love gaming so much (mainly FPS gaming).

Portal alone makes that box worthy of it's price.

\m/

10-24-2007, 02:42 PM

As far as Halo multiplayer goes, I have no complaints. Sucks for people who don't have the internet though.

For me, the Halo series is the most overrated series out there.

Anyway, enough about Halo, I'll be getting the Orange Box as soon as I can afford it. My friend got it the other day and completed Portal in two hours. He has absolutely no life!

masteratt

10-24-2007, 02:45 PM

My friend got it the other day and completed Portal in two hours. He has absolutely no life!
Not really, it's just that Portal is short.

But map importing options and challenges and the fact that it's awesome makes you care less.

Actually all games in the Orange Box (except HL2) are pretty short, they are 4 hours max.
But TF2 has infinite lifespan if you get hooked to it.

Passive

10-24-2007, 02:47 PM

No one bothers with the VideoGames section.

lol and thats a good excuse? :S

it still belongs there. not here.

\m/

10-24-2007, 02:50 PM

I think the ones that were split into episodes were going to be a full game, so I guess you could combine episodes one and two, so you'll probably get something like 6-8 hours. I had Half-Life 2 on the Xbox, alongside the first game it's my favourite FPS (oh yea, and System Shock 2, of course).

TF2 could do with some more maps, but apart from that, I think I'll be very happy with my purchase!

masteratt

10-24-2007, 02:51 PM

lol and thats a good excuse? :S

it still belongs there. not here.
Just leave it man lol

If you really care, go make it in VG forums.
TF2 could do with some more maps, but apart from that, I think I'll be very happy with my purchase!
There is one or two awesome custom maps already but I agree the official maps are pretty limited, however, there are many paths within one map and sometimes the game blocks/ opens new parts of the map so it feels different all the time.

\m/

10-24-2007, 02:52 PM

From what I hear, a lot of people never leave this section, so it's probably a good idea to have it here :P

Passive

10-24-2007, 02:52 PM

I would leave in masteratt. But its happeneing more and more lately :S ppl want their threads to be noticed so they just chuck it in the ps3 section and it pisses me off :(

EDIT: yeah alot of people come here and not the VG section but look at those titles :P not all are PS3 AND the one he's making a fuss over isnt even a ps3 title its a multi plat, like assassins creed (which is in the VG section) Id say it about any multi plat game, hell even if MGS4 was on the 360 (god forbid lol) id say it should be moved to the VG section. I dont know maybe im just a forum nazi XD

NickSCFC

10-24-2007, 02:57 PM

lol and thats a good excuse? :S

it still belongs there. not here.

Take your moaning to the DMC4, N4S and all the other multiformat games threads we have on this PS3 forum.

NickSCFC

10-24-2007, 03:07 PM

Top 10 highest reviewed games of all-time! According to www.gamerankings.com...

1. The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time N64 Nintendo 31 9.0 97.6%
2. Soul Calibur DC Namco 28 8.8 96.4%
3. Metroid Prime GC Nintendo 91 8.8 96.3%
4. The Orange Box X360 EA Games 23 8.9 96.2%
5. Resident Evil 4 GC Capcom 105 9.2 95.9%
6. GoldenEye 007 N64 Nintendo 22 9.2 95.6%
7. Tekken 3 PS Namco 24 8.1 95.6%
8. Halo: Combat Evolved XBOX Microsoft Game Studios 91 8.8 95.5%
9. Half-Life 2 PC VU Games 95 8.9 95.5%
10. Resident Evil 4 PS2 Capcom 59 8.7 95.5%

masteratt

10-24-2007, 03:11 PM

Metacritic (http://www.metacritic.com) Top20 PC games.
Orange Box deservedly at top :)

NickSCFC

10-24-2007, 03:14 PM

Nice to see both Orange Box and HL2 being top 2 of all -time there.

But www.gamerankings.com is more accurate because games need 20 reviews to get in and they're taken from the top mags/sites.

masteratt

10-24-2007, 03:16 PM

But www.gamerankings.com is more accurate because games need 20 reviews to get in and they're taken from the top mags/sites.
Yeah probably but I'm used to Metacritic now and it never let me down yet so I'll stick with it until problems arise :)

Plus it's integrated into Steam so it makes easier to quickly check the score/ reviews of the game you are about to buy.

LaLiLuLeLo

10-24-2007, 03:24 PM

No one bothers with the VideoGames section.

TRUE! It's coming out for PS3, so quit your bawwing about the thread being in here guys.

Passive

10-24-2007, 03:40 PM

i was saying about not just this thread but many others being put in the ps3 section just to be noticed.

SuperLuigiBros

10-24-2007, 03:47 PM

^^No, it should be in the video game section because then we don't have to make a seperate thread on the same topic for each console.

*on topic*

Wow, EDGE gave out 2 10's in such a short amount of time... I gotta admit, Im surprised.

I got the Orange Box the other day and am currently enjoying HL2 as I never played it. I only just got my gaming computer hooked up to the net, but its really slow so I wont be able to play TF2 online for a while which is a shame because I was looking forward to that the most.

As for the 11/10, masteratt, thats reserved for Brawl.

Sephiroth_VII

10-24-2007, 03:51 PM

And MGS4!

masteratt

10-24-2007, 03:54 PM

MGS games never get the praise (sale and review wise) that they deserve :(

Zeep

10-24-2007, 04:29 PM

1: Yes, this belongs in Video Games.

2: Orange Box deserves at LEAST 11/10. HL2 is a 10/10, Portal is a 9/10 or so (only because it's short), and all the other games are equally amazing. Since Orange Box has all the value of those games for only the price of one it oughta be like 50/10.

\m/

10-24-2007, 04:36 PM

Definitely an 11/10 for value for money.

Passive

10-24-2007, 04:49 PM

yay lol i have support for my bitching :P

and i agree masteratt :( its silly, but MGS4 will. It has to :P I think they will have to make a new review system for that game.

cliffbo

10-24-2007, 04:53 PM

please God, don't let FPS online become the norm! i want story and breadth and imaginations and invention and SINGLE PLAYER!!!!! stuff orange box, it's just one more push down a slippery slope

masteratt

10-24-2007, 04:56 PM

cliffbo

10-24-2007, 05:00 PM

Funny how you say that since Orange Box has games that have the best story, breadth, imagination, invention and single player gaming has ever seen.

Only TF2 is online, the rest you can't even play online.

cliffbo and his random crap hey? ¬_¬

is that necessary? did i stand on your cat's tail or something? we'll see what gets pushed more on this game (that's what i was referring to) half-life always had a good story, but i bet it will get burried under the whoops and hollers of online

masteratt

10-24-2007, 05:02 PM

You are on my tail because 90% of the time you seem to be talking crap for whatever reason (mostly to defend Sony and in this case I don't even know why) and most of your posts don't make factual sense.
It was just a light hearted stab though, I don't dislike you or anything :)

we'll see what gets pushed more on this game (that's what i was referring to) half-life always had a good story, but i bet it will get burried under the whoops and hollers of online
Well from what I gather, the most pushed thing in this box is how Episode 2 ends and now most people are wondering if Valve will do Ep3 or wait until HL3 to continue the story.

So don't worry, the glory of online TF2 remains in it's community and Orange Box is known for it's great story and deal.

Zeep

10-24-2007, 05:05 PM

Yeah, all the versions of Half-Life are well known for having among the best storylines of any videogames out there. And it seems to me like Portal is the main reason people are buying Orange Box, rather than TF2. Personally I've barely played TF2, yet I've beaten Portal twice as well as all the advanced missions. I hate to say it cliffbo, but i think you're pretty much totally wrong here.

cliffbo

10-24-2007, 05:08 PM

You are on my tail because 90% of the time you seem to be talking crap for whatever reason (mostly to defend Sony and in this case I don't even know why) and most of your posts don't make factual sense.
It was just a light hearted stab though, I don't dislike you or anything :)

if that's the way you feel then i don't think you understand the way i think at all. i defend the truth my friend, not Sony. if the truth happens to be something that shallow little children consider fanboy then they can stick it where the sun don't shine as far as i'm concerned. have i now got to go through all the things i think Sony got wrong, just to redress this imaginary imbalance?

Well from what I gather, the most pushed thing in this box is how Episode 2 ends and now most people are wondering if Valve will do Ep3 or wait until HL3 to continue the story.

So don't worry, the glory of online TF2 remains in it's community and Orange Box is known for it's great story and deal.

i suppose i should have singled out team fortress, so i can see the confusion.

masteratt

10-24-2007, 05:12 PM

Passive

10-24-2007, 05:13 PM

Im gonna side with Zeep and masteratt on this one too :P HL story is amazing, portal is extreamly inventive and inovative and the only online game in the box is TF2 which i have played and its great fun, not your run of the mill online FPS, its fast its fun and its got varity. The orange box is very good value cliffbo and i dont know how any gamer with half a brain can pass it up. unless they hate FPS games with a firey vengence.

oh
cliffbo and his random crap hey? ¬_¬
friggen awesome masteratt XD made me lol.

and
Well from what I gather, the most pushed thing in this box is how Episode 2 ends and now most people are wondering if Valve will do Ep3 or wait until HL3 to continue the story.

Valve have already started on Episode 3 :P they were originally going to wait for episode 3 to realease the orange box but its a while away yet (because they are putting portal in ep3) I think i read late 08 or 09 for it. which still contradicts the idea of episodic gaming if you ask me.

cliffbo

10-24-2007, 05:18 PM

As I said, it was a light hearted jab, I don't feel strongly about it so I don't really care to pursue this discussion on any further, not to mention it's way off topic anyway but if you want to continue, feel free to PM me.

Back to how awesome The Orange Box is....
You have two options on that issue:

1) It's awesome.
2) It's so awesome.

Half-life is without doubt the most inspired singleplayer FPS (if you can actually call it that) i have ever had the pleasure of playing... what i meant (but didn't put it clearly) was that with the inclusion of TF, and the fact that the games have already been played by many, the online could get the most love from a lot of people. i hope not! because i want... well you know what i want. NOT TF! if TF does really well, could we see Half-life going that way too? nows there's the crux of my concern. i know it's not on any sites anywhere or printed in black and white, but the way the industry is going at the moment, it could be a possibility. yes i do make random posts, but those posts have a reason, it's just that i hope that people who know me understand what i'm getting at. this was a little oblique though (but there's no need to get personal)

edit: yes i do speculate a lot, it's what i like doing. remember my 'step out of HOME into Afrika' thread, or framerate preemptive strike, or the Minority report thread... yes some things i say seem leftfield at times, but i also say things that become relevant in the future... keep your eye on MS and EA by the way

masteratt

10-24-2007, 05:21 PM

Yeah I had to be a mind reader to get what you meant there, I would advice you respect that it's a public forum and that you try to express yourself more clearly in the future.

And on your concerns: Won't happen, not even worth worrying about.
Valve are almost on the same genius level as Kojima and they share the same passion for their HL franchise and are not going to sell out for what-ever reason.

They want to tell their story, they want to make their game exciting.
They already made HL2 Deathmatch and didn't even support it strongly.

cliffbo

10-24-2007, 05:26 PM

dnpmakkah

10-24-2007, 05:30 PM

VideoGame mania

10-24-2007, 05:31 PM

Was it the PS3 Orange Box version ?

LaLiLuLeLo

10-24-2007, 05:31 PM

No, that ain't out yet.

dnpmakkah

10-24-2007, 05:34 PM

We have just as many people who 'always' defend Sony as we do people who 'always' bash Sony.

cliffbo

10-24-2007, 05:35 PM

I'm getting this game when it hits the PS3 unless it's a really really bad port. Cliffbo I agree with you, it seems like a lot of these reviewers just don't like games outside of the FPS realm. It's a shame really.

exactly. how many titles have been put down lately because of no online feature... how long before it become mandatory to have it? and which developers have the balls to balk that trend and stick to their guns? i really really hope that Valve have got those balls and that TF isn't a litmus test to see where to go in the future

dnpmakkah

10-24-2007, 05:41 PM

If reviewers insist on giving a grade to games I wish they would rate it by two standards. Give a grade for the single player part and another grade for the online component (if applicable). To downgrade a game due to lack of online is retarded IMO.

\m/

10-24-2007, 05:44 PM

Agreed. I couldn't believe it when Gametrailers criticised R&C for not having an online game mode. Some people...

cliffbo

10-24-2007, 05:45 PM

dnpmakkah

10-24-2007, 05:48 PM

Lets start a petition to change how games are reviewed. :)

NickSCFC

10-24-2007, 11:22 PM

Is there any Half-Life 2 multiplayer in this game?

cliffbo

10-24-2007, 11:26 PM

Is there any Half-Life 2 multiplayer in this game?

lol... you don't know how happy i am that you asked that... but no, there isn't

NickSCFC

10-24-2007, 11:27 PM

Happy? Why?

cliffbo

10-24-2007, 11:38 PM

Happy? Why?

i was trying to suggest that pressure for online play could push this franchise in the wrong direction. your question sort of verified that some may well want it to be online :)

jaxmkii

10-25-2007, 12:02 AM

please God, don't let FPS online become the norm! i want story and breadth and imaginations and invention and SINGLE PLAYER!!!!! stuff orange box, it's just one more push down a slippery slope

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False_Messiah

10-25-2007, 12:07 AM

so... any news, previews, reviews of the PS3 version?

woundingchaney

10-25-2007, 12:11 AM

I have the Orange Box on the PC (still need to give away HL1 and Ep1 to someone if interested PM) and while its a good deal for someone not familiar with the series I seriously cant see a 10/10. Team Fortress is alright but many of the classes come off extremely tedious and not fun, and there is little content to it. Portal is ok for about an hour and then one begins to appreciate that all they essentially are doing is running around with a portal gun doing repetitive puzzle solving scenarios. Ep2 is essentially a long delivery quest that personally left me rather underwhelmed until the last half hour of gameplay (total about 5 hours for Ep 2).

All in all Im not sure why the pc gaming community let alone the console gaming community have found so much love for the Orange Box, but hey to each their own.

Zeep

10-25-2007, 12:14 AM

Red_Eyes

10-25-2007, 12:16 AM

3 great games inside an orange box = 10/10.

As long as the PS3 version isn't crap.
But I can already see it now. The PS3 version will get 7/10 for no apparent reason.

woundingchaney

10-25-2007, 12:19 AM

I am offended.

Portal is one of the best games to come out this year. Yes, it's very short, but it's also easily the most clever, inventive new gameplay mechanic in any recent FPS, and has some of the best dialogue in any game, ever.

Im sorry you are offended but the reliance on the single gameplay mechanic is what I found tedious more so than the notion of the gameplay mechanic itself. It seemed simply like a "portal gun" demo and while I enjoyed it for a while it eventually simply became tedious.

But as I said to each their own.

Zeep

10-25-2007, 12:21 AM

I wasn't actually offended.

But yeah, a lot of people have said that Portal is only as successful as it is because of the orange box. alone, portal would not have sold. even I could barely justify charging more than $25 for it, but as part of a pack it's (IMO) an amazing game.

VideoGame mania

10-25-2007, 02:46 AM

How many levels in Portal ? I'm on level 15, not impressed with the game to be honest. The voice irritates me, I want hot woman's voice, not some robot.
I heard the ending is the most satisfying part of the Portal.
Episode 2 was my favorite game of the Orange Box, so awesome:thumbl:

masteratt

10-25-2007, 06:26 AM

How many levels in Portal ? I'm on level 15, not impressed with the game to be honest. The voice irritates me, I want hot woman's voice, not some robot.
You are greatly missing the humour.

It's not supposed to be "let's give them an erection with a sexy voice" kind of feeling, it's supposed to be "let's make them lol by creating this atmosphere" kind of thing. and I honestly think it's one of the best written and voice acted 'background noise' in any game.

LaLiLuLeLo

10-25-2007, 06:28 AM

Agreed, Masteratt. It's funny.

NickSCFC

10-25-2007, 09:47 PM

Just as you thought Passive couldn't hate EDGE anymore...

http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee182/Doggybot/DSC00525.jpg

This is what they have to say about the games in the PS3 article...

"Uncharted is looking like a solid but unspectacular title, MGS4 doesn't move the game forward enough and enemy AI hasn't progressed, MGO is good but doesn't feel like a standalone game, Toy Home is ruined by Sixaxis controls and GT5 is graphically poor at trackside."

The mag seems to have completely slagged off every PS3 game they've reviewed this year, the average score for a PS3 game is something like a 7.

Seems odd because back in the day they were in love with the PS1, so much so that apart from NiGHTS, Sega Rally and VF2 they completely slated EVERY Sega Saturn game and always had some news about how much better PlayStation was than Saturn, the letters pages were always full of accusations of bias.

Nameless

10-25-2007, 10:02 PM

^ :whogives:

Back on topic: Has Orange Box released on the PS3 yet?

masteratt

10-25-2007, 10:04 PM

No, delayed because PS3 is the worst console in the universe :)

Apparently.

NickSCFC

10-25-2007, 10:07 PM

16th November for PS3, not long to wait!!!

Nameless

10-25-2007, 10:07 PM

^ Well when it's released I would strongly recommend people purchase the game. If you have not played the Half Life 2 series it's an amazing experience to play through all the Episodes. The only way I would not recommend the Orange Box is if the PS3 version is gimped in any way...

Sephiroth_VII

10-25-2007, 10:12 PM

I'm losing a lot of respect for EDGE. Very, very fast. :(

masteratt

10-25-2007, 10:14 PM

I think they are doing a splendid job of advertising the PS3 with that cover lol

GTShotoKen

10-25-2007, 10:16 PM

So, owners of the PC version; who has all talked the advanced maps of Portal?

I'm currently on advanced map 17 (haven't had much time to play it).

I also think Episode 2 provides some of the most refined gameplay in the Half-life series (it's simply a thrill ride from beginning to end).

I haven't had much time to play Team Fortress though, but I have to say it's hella fun, albiet extremely daunting at first (I died all the time).

NickSCFC

10-25-2007, 10:16 PM

They're not biased against PS3 but they made fair comments in that article.

They love LittleBigPlanet though, they will review that game very highly!

Nameless

10-25-2007, 10:17 PM

^^ If you have a nice gaming rig no real need to play Orange Box on the consoles...

NickSCFC

10-25-2007, 10:28 PM

Depends if you have your PC hooked up to a decent sized TV though ;)

masteratt

10-25-2007, 10:29 PM

@Nameless: Not even that nice, I'm running everything on Max with Nvidia GeForce 7800GS which I bought a long while ago now for about ~$90

Valve are king of optimisation.

Smokey

10-26-2007, 10:25 AM

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hmmm Rooftops :) love it