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chartwel
10-30-2007, 02:30 AM
here are some pictures posted by adams828 at avsforum, who we should thank. he got the game early, and posted some for us. looking good.

http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l97/adams828/temp.jpg

http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l97/adams828/DSC03036-1a.jpg

http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l97/adams828/DSC03053-1a.jpg

http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l97/adams828/DSC03061-1a.jpg

LiquidEagle
10-30-2007, 02:34 AM
Wow! What a lucky goddamn man...

Nameless
10-30-2007, 02:46 AM
^^ That last pic looks very impressive...
I played the 360 beta and even the multiplayer had amazing visuals.

LaLiLuLeLo
10-30-2007, 02:51 AM
Sweet, when's this release?

chartwel
10-30-2007, 02:53 AM
Sweet, when's this release?

next tuesday i think. so i guess 1 week.

belgarn
10-30-2007, 02:58 AM
Nice lightning!

LaLiLuLeLo
10-30-2007, 03:19 AM
Too....many....games....
must...pay off...credit card...

Passive
10-30-2007, 03:36 AM
lol i hear you lali, i still have about 1000 to pay off mine

LaLiLuLeLo
10-30-2007, 03:50 AM
Nice signature, tell me where you made it/where you found that font if you wish to live.

SleazyBig slim
10-30-2007, 03:55 AM
Well I be damed this is the best looking multi-platform game to hit PS3 yet, too bad its still COD2 with new skin so I'll pass.

OG_Monkey
10-30-2007, 04:01 AM
lucky bitch

comes out Monday eh?....damn

VideoGame mania
10-30-2007, 04:15 AM
Hot, looks better than Killzone to me. 60fps, multi, day one.

Gummy
10-30-2007, 04:19 AM
Amaaaazzziiiing-ah!


Sucks being broke though, hah.

OG_Monkey
10-30-2007, 04:20 AM
We all have that feeling right about now

LaLiLuLeLo
10-30-2007, 04:30 AM
Hot, looks better than Killzone to me.

Stop lyin', boy STOP LYIN!:guns:

But kidding aside, I wouldn't go that far, Killzone is boss.

VideoGame mania
10-30-2007, 04:32 AM
http://www.dailygame.net/news/archives/006696.php
Still, as strong as Call of Duty 4 is shaping up to be in the gameplay department, the most immediately impressive aspect is by far its graphics. The PC, PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360 versions all look surprisingly similar, but that's not due to one platform being the lead; Infinity Ward personally assured us that development occurred simultaneously on all three platforms, and that there wasn't a base system. With that said, the console similarities end when it comes to textures, lighting and resolutions, because those three areas make the PlayStation 3 version definitely excel over the Xbox 360 SKU. Regardless, every console owner will proudly use Call of Duty 4 to showcase their high-definition TV, because COD4 is by far the best-looking console game you will see this year.
Hmm, I think I'm getting it on PS3.
Stop lyin', boy STOP LYIN!:guns:

But kidding aside, I wouldn't go that far, Killzone is boss.
I don't dig all the dust, slow pace and blur in Killzone, it will probably end up running at 30fps.
MGS4 and COD4 are my top two best war games on PS3.
Whereas Killzone has yet to prove AAA status, both of those games mentioned already are.

Nameless
10-30-2007, 05:03 AM
PS3 day one purchase...
This will keep me very busy until the uncharted release.
Uncharted will be a nice break from COD4 multiplayer and once I complete the game I will go back to COD4 MP; after the beta I can see logging many hours on COD4 MP.

Diresu
10-30-2007, 05:24 AM
Looking forward to this, if only for the MP. Seems like BF2 with a decent upgrade.

VideoGame mania
10-30-2007, 05:30 AM
holy crap, OPM gave it 10/10

Nameless
10-30-2007, 05:34 AM
I can see the COD4 360 VS PS3 comparison videos now...

Diresu
10-30-2007, 05:38 AM
I can see the COD4 360 VS PS3 comparison videos now...

If the ps3 version is indeed better, I sense a major lack of such videos.

Nameless
10-30-2007, 05:41 AM
^ The videos will happen regardless even if they are low res taken on different displays at different parts of the game to show there's no difference...

Diresu
10-30-2007, 05:43 AM
^ The videos will happen regardless even if they are low res taken on different displays at different parts of the game to show there's no difference...

You gotta point there...and they can use ex-harmonix guys rant for proof on top of it...tsk, its a losing battle. I though will be to busy sniping people online in COD4 to care...

Smokey
10-30-2007, 06:13 AM
day one purchace for me... anyone know when it releases EU or more importantly AU

chartwel
10-30-2007, 06:17 AM
more shots.

http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l97/adams828/DSC03077-1a.jpg

http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l97/adams828/DSC03071-1.jpg

http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l97/adams828/DSC03072-1.jpg

julps31
10-30-2007, 06:26 AM
Wow..game looks amazing. I wouldn't say it looks better then killzone (no killzone direct feeds, games not finished yet ect.) but I would say its a definant runner up. Definantly a must buy...

dnpmakkah
10-30-2007, 06:34 AM
If this was a PS3 only game people would look at this picture and bitch about the low textures, lack of geomotry and bland colors.
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l97/adams828/DSC03077-1a.jpg

Jay Gee
10-30-2007, 06:41 AM
I think the graphics in both titles are absolutely spectacular. I love COD4's realist look, and I adore Killzone's "hollywood action film" look. However, COD4 does have KZ trumped in the FPS department. But as long as that 30fps is constant and doesn't dip, I'm good.

yoshaw
10-30-2007, 06:43 AM
*Reads OPM scan*

Emotional Sucker Punch near the end???????? 0_0

CAN'T FRIKKIN' WAIT!

Fillibuster
10-30-2007, 06:49 AM
Ahhhhhhhh I need moneyyyyyyyyy

julps31
10-30-2007, 06:52 AM
If this was a PS3 only game people would look at this picture and bitch about the low textures, lack of geomotry and bland colors.Lol thats true unfortunantly... People will try to downplay any PS3 game regardless of how good it looks. If Crysis was on PS3 they would try to point out "imprefections". Eh its fanboy nature... No way to avoid it.

LiquidEagle
10-30-2007, 08:00 AM
holy crap, OPM gave it 10/10

OXM gave it a 10/10 too, but I'm more looking forward to Game Informer's review, if anybody's.

masteratt
10-30-2007, 10:14 AM
This game, judging only from the SP Demo is one of the most immensely excited and varied FPSs I've ever played and it looks STUNNING (as you can al tell).

I'm definately buying it (whenever it comes on Steam).

Infinity Ward did it again.

VG Aficionado
10-30-2007, 12:44 PM
It looks great, but it's very different to Killzone 2 (which isn't finished yet anyway), so stop talking crap, please.

Certainly not my kind of game, but I would like to try a demo on PS3 if there will be one.

Theo
10-30-2007, 01:24 PM
It looks very good. There's so much stuff happening at same time that I doubt you could notice all the details it has when you are actually playing it (as it's already pretty hard on the pc demo that I have been playing, even without maxing the graphics options). Judging from these shots this game is obviously running better than any other multi platform game on the ps3 so far, if it does not have any serious frame rate problems. There is no reason to think it has and as stated before it should be visually better than the 360 version. We'll see how much will that be in reality though. It's a great thing that this is coming out soon, day one purchase for me =).

Killing Moon
10-30-2007, 03:23 PM
Just out of curiosity, are you guys ONLY giving this game any attention because of its graphics? Is that really the main incentive for purchase? :-(

Nameless
10-30-2007, 03:31 PM
^ I played the multiplayer beta and there's tons of depth with the class system. The MP is going to be the real attraction of this title and the SP campaign & visuals are icing on the cake IMO.

Viper
10-30-2007, 03:39 PM
If this was a PS3 only game people would look at this picture and bitch about the low textures, lack of geomotry and bland colors.

Lmao, I was about to do exactly that for that image but praise some of the other images for looking bad ass.

Julps, what do you mean no Killzone 2 direct feeds? Wasn't that whole trailer thing direct feed?

To me, KZ2 never looked like the graphic powerhouse it's been made out to be. This tops it quite easily.



http://www.mariannedemooy.com/geeklog/html/images/articles/20070712174748906_5.jpg

http://www.msxbox-world.com/screenshots360/ss/346/screenshot_888856021_1182012334.jpg

http://xboxer.tv/Call_of_Duty_4_Modern_Warfare_-_Console__1.jpg

http://www.x-power.be/_gallery/Call%20of%20Duty%204:%20Modern%20Warfare/call-of-duty-4-e3-10.jpg




Then again there is that image Chartwell posted. If I didn't know if they were making a Wii version or not, I'd guess that is where it's from but they aren't so that's a pretty craptastic shot.

Killing Moon
10-30-2007, 03:49 PM
^ I played the multiplayer beta and there's tons of depth with the class system. The MP is going to be the real attraction of this title and the SP campaign & visuals are icing on the cake IMO.

Really now? Maybe I should check it out after all.

VG Aficionado
10-30-2007, 03:50 PM
To me, KZ2 never looked like the graphic powerhouse it's been made out to be. This tops it quite easily.Hmmm... don't make me post a close-up of Sev from KZ2 and then argue that the environments and amount of things going on are greater than in COD4 from all I've seen so far. The COD4 trailer at E3 paled compared to KZ2's trailer.

Viper
10-30-2007, 03:56 PM
COD3? Why are you even bringing that up? These are COD4 pics.

VG Aficionado
10-30-2007, 03:59 PM
Typo.

dnpmakkah
10-30-2007, 04:01 PM
I bet you guys Nick would also think COD4 looks better than Killzone 2.

Theo
10-30-2007, 04:02 PM
Just out of curiosity, are you guys ONLY giving this game any attention because of its graphics? Is that really the main incentive for purchase? :-(


Multiplayer is the main reason for me. The visuals just add to the experience. I still play the first CoD sometimes for the multiplayer as I find it very good. I'm hoping that CoD 4 will reach to the same level. I have a good feeling it will, but we'll find out soon enough.

section
10-30-2007, 04:04 PM
Technically speaking on PS3 nothing beats KZ2 at the moment. Except for maybe "8 Days" ;) But that's still hushush subject.

KZ2 engine has got mad amount of everything. Crysis is the cream of the whole crop but on PS3 lightingwise KZ2 is the shiznit.

COD4 might be better game though, again remains to be seen.

LaLiLuLeLo
10-30-2007, 04:11 PM
Just out of curiosity, are you guys ONLY giving this game any attention because of its graphics? Is that really the main incentive for purchase? :-(

Nah apparently the multiplayer is supposed to be badass, and I'm guessing, since it's a call of duty game, the campaign won't be a slouch either.

VideoGame mania
10-30-2007, 05:45 PM
I agree with Viper, COD4 tops Killzone and it runs at 60fps with tons of stuff going on. No fog or blur to cover graphics engine limitations, old trick got old fast with Black.
http://xboxer.tv/Call_of_Duty_4_Modern_Warfare_-_Console__1.jpg
average person would've easily mixed this with a picture taken from a movie.

Viper
10-30-2007, 05:48 PM
Black? Haha, fog got old with Turok 2.

LaLiLuLeLo
10-30-2007, 05:51 PM
WE'LL SEE!
:guns:

Epix
10-30-2007, 06:29 PM
Campaign online co-op?

saud264
10-30-2007, 07:12 PM
from neogaf (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=8421163&postcount=514)

This is a misnomer and this rumor needs to die a fast, painful death.

CoD4 PS3 does have ranked, player skill based matchmaking! It does not use the TrueSkill algorithm, because that is Microsoft proprietary and therefore you'll only ever see it on the 360. People have been ranking and matching players in games long before this though, so we just use a different ranking technique on the PS3.

Server selection is still based around private match + invite, LAN game, local splitscreen MP or online matchmaking with the same party and lobby support the 360 has. The only server browser screen is the one for seeing what systemlink games are underway on your local LAN.

Edited to add, DKo5 beat me to it :lol I see this so often it bears repeating, though.

VG Aficionado
10-30-2007, 07:15 PM
Nice debunking :) A great multiplatform title, definitely not a port, but developed on PS3 as well.

Red_Eyes
10-30-2007, 07:31 PM
I agree with Viper, COD4 tops Killzone and it runs at 60fps with tons of stuff going on. No fog or blur to cover graphics engine limitations, old trick got old fast with Black.
http://xboxer.tv/Call_of_Duty_4_Modern_Warfare_-_Console__1.jpg
average person would've easily mixed this with a picture taken from a movie.
Yeah rite. That look fake as hell. No game this gen can make a character so photorealistic that it looks like a real person.

VideoGame mania
10-30-2007, 07:36 PM
Of course it looks fake to you if you look at these images daily, ask someone who doesn't know anything about games. Infinity has stated, they can push next gen systems even further, right now it's the most realistic console game hands down.
http://img.hrej.cz/5f/c11d049c8d124bd9e0af8cca173959.jpg

Red_Eyes
10-30-2007, 08:10 PM
Of course it looks fake to you if you look at these images daily, ask someone who doesn't know anything about games. Infinity has stated, they can push next gen systems even further, right now it's the most realistic console game hands down.
http://img.hrej.cz/5f/c11d049c8d124bd9e0af8cca173959.jpg

People will always notice the uncanniness of these and know that its not real.

frosty
10-30-2007, 08:15 PM
I saw this game in action at E3, and while it looked damn impressive, it wasn't better than killzone 2. I'd have to put them both on equal ground, with only a slight edge going for killzone in lighting.

Viper
10-30-2007, 08:16 PM
Yeah rite. That look fake as hell. No game this gen can make a character so photorealistic that it looks like a real person.

I bet you money people not familiar with games mistake this for a person if you don't inform them ahead of time it's from a game.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v678/Fronz/TheLastBoss/crysis-face.jpg

LiquidEagle
10-30-2007, 08:43 PM
I think both look great for different reasons :)

I'm ridiculously excited for this game to come out next week, though! I can't believe I even had an argument with my friend about why CoD4 is going to be better than Crysis... It's no contest once ya see/play CoD4 :-D

julps31
10-30-2007, 08:52 PM
I saw this game in action at E3, and while it looked damn impressive, it wasn't better than killzone 2. I'd have to put them both on equal ground, with only a slight edge going for killzone in lighting.Agreed. When I've seen the trailers from each game back to back Killzone definantly left a bigger impression on me even though COD was extremely impressive. I think its way too soon to say this looks better then KIllzone. We've only seen one trailer from Killzone, no new environments. And as far as I know...no direct feed pics. On top of that the games not even done lol.

Just out of curiosity, are you guys ONLY giving this game any attention because of its graphics? Is that really the main incentive for purchase? :-(Did you look at the thread title before you wrote that message? lol... If the game didn't look quite as good but was still a 10/10 game i'm sure it would get plenty of attention (not as much mind you..but graphics are a big drawing point for any game. Especially when the expectations are higher for next-gen games).

masteratt
10-30-2007, 08:58 PM
On the KZ2 vs CoD4 battle (though I don't see the need)- CoD4 undoubtedly takes the cake.

60FPS, SHIT LOADS of crap going everywhere, huge draw distance, very high detail on everything etc.
What we saw of KZ2 was linear draw distance, small locations, dark, 30FPS.

But this is if WE HAVE TO compare them, KZ2 has that "ugly but beautiful" style, CoD4 has that sharp, realistic and super polished style.

VG Aficionado
10-30-2007, 09:05 PM
I think people need to remember that COD4 is finished and that it builds on a few years of experience on the hardware they're developing it on, while Killzone 2 is still pre-prealpha. In any case, at E3 I've been a lot more impressed with Killzone 2's trailer than with COD4's trailer.

jako
10-30-2007, 09:10 PM
Come on guys we're comparing a finished game (COD) with a pre-pre alpha game (KZ).
I'll get them both anyway :)

julps31
10-30-2007, 09:10 PM
I don't think we've seen enough of Killzone to say that it wont have great draw distances, loads of shit happening on screen (which the demo definantly did have imo) and detailed environments (and I don't know how you can watch the trailer and say the environments aren't detailed lol).

VG Aficionado
10-30-2007, 09:13 PM
Come on guys we're comparing a finished game (COD) with a pre-pre alpha game (KZ).
I'll get them both anyway :)

You can only get both on PS3 anyway :-p

jako
10-30-2007, 09:15 PM
You can only get both on PS3 anyway :-p

But ..... you're right on this LOL

JasonXe
10-30-2007, 09:19 PM
playing the demo, Cod4 reminds me of Killzone 2 in Daylight. I can't honestly judge the differences without playing them both.

r33hash
10-30-2007, 09:34 PM
I won't lie. I drooled abit on myself when I saw those first screens in this thread.

OG_Monkey
10-30-2007, 09:44 PM
I bet you money people not familiar with games mistake this for a person if you don't inform them ahead of time it's from a game.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v678/Fronz/TheLastBoss/crysis-face.jpg

what the?... THATS MY DADDY!

VG Aficionado
10-30-2007, 10:00 PM
Sue them!

chartwel
10-30-2007, 10:36 PM
i havent seen the final product of COD4, but the recent trailers didnt compare to the HD killzone 2 trailer on PSN. that game definitely looks incredible. the lighting is a major factor. i lol at people who think the blur is there just to cover up "engine imperfections". its all about realism, and it does a damn good job of it. i will compare once again when i see this game running on my hardware.................that being said...........this game looks f*cking RIDICULOUS. and its multiplatform. at least some companies can do it right.

OmniCloud
10-30-2007, 11:11 PM
Yeah, this is bought...the only War game you need right here...

Killzone is much more about the art style/story/atmosphere, really getting you into the game with immersion.

On top of that it's not finished.

Certainly tho, as Masteratt said, COD4 has that realistic polished look down pack, very pretty...Right up there with Unreal/Uncharted/Ratchet level when it comes to eye candy...

:pleased:

Killing Moon
10-30-2007, 11:44 PM
More than likely this is simply the latest build of the game and not necessarily PS3-centric advantages. I guess we’ll wait till the retail release to see everything more clearly.

I would guess that with the exception of the PC build, the console versions will be very identical.

woundingchaney
10-30-2007, 11:54 PM
I wasnt really impressed at E3 or with the demo. I didnt find it to be any kind of visual feast or impressive war type tactical shooter. For me it really came off as another installment of the COD series and those that have always enjoyed it will continue to enjoy it.

I would consider a potential purchase if there wasnt already so many titles coming through the pipes this holiday and so many recently arrived titles.

The COD series itself has become remarkably console driven and console centric and outside of a resolution increase on my rig I would prefer to purchase the title on a console.

OmniCloud
10-30-2007, 11:57 PM
More than likely this is simply the latest build of the game and not necessarily PS3-centric advantages. I guess we’ll wait till the retail release to see everything more clearly.

I would guess that with the exception of the PC build, the console versions will be very identical.yeah, the only things I've really seen better for PS3 games aren't really hardware specific, but just the studios that Sony have.

However, a few immediate advantages have just been there seems to be more uh..Stuff going on in a few PS3 games like Resistance or Lair, and there's like a retarded amount of voice-overs/languages you can listen to.

I think animations have been really awesome on PS3 games as well....

So yeah, even if COD4 looks a bit better on PS3 (which I doubt) it will be small subtle things--which is so much cooler anyway....

Killing Moon
10-31-2007, 12:16 AM
yeah, the only things I've really seen better for PS3 games aren't really hardware specific, but just the studios that Sony have.

However, a few immediate advantages have just been there seems to be more uh..Stuff going on in a few PS3 games like Resistance or Lair, and there's like a retarded amount of voice-overs/languages you can listen to.

I think animations have been really awesome on PS3 games as well....

So yeah, even if COD4 looks a bit better on PS3 (which I doubt) it will be small subtle things--which is so much cooler anyway....

To be fair, Lair had a lot of things going on, but at the sacrifice of low poly character models on the ground and very drab environments (beyond the beautiful static hills). And Lair was VERY low detail, which leaves room for having large numbers of objects, particles and animations on screen.

These weren’t PS3-centric advantages. They’re age old tricks to deal with either bottlenecks or to balance RAM budgets. Done even on the older consoles and can be done on both the PS3 and 360 respectively.

Epix
10-31-2007, 01:38 AM
88578858885988608861

GTAce
10-31-2007, 01:40 AM
W00t Splitscreen, nice.

Epix
10-31-2007, 01:42 AM
Back of the Box:
8864

Nameless
10-31-2007, 01:45 AM
I wonder if COD4 displays 1080P by default or do you have to cancel all the other resolutions for the game to upscale. Also, it would be nice to know the recommended viewing resolution; if the game is natively hitting around 1080P at 60fps that's a huge technical achievement considering the post processing effects...

Epix
10-31-2007, 01:47 AM
I wonder if COD4 displays 1080P by default or do you have to cancel all the other resolutions for the game to upscale. Also, it would be nice to know the recommended viewing resolution; if the game is natively hitting around 1080P at 60fps that's a huge technical achievement considering the post processing effects...It's native 720p.

VG Aficionado
10-31-2007, 02:24 AM
Back of the Box:
8864LOL, someone created a thread at NeoGAF because apparently it says 18 players online (compared to 360's 16 players). I guess it's 16 anyway.

LaLiLuLeLo
10-31-2007, 03:42 AM
Anyone selling KZ2 shore on draw distance must not have seen the demonstration where they show the entire level load at once in full detail.

So...pfft.

julps31
10-31-2007, 04:51 AM
Anyone selling KZ2 shore on draw distance must not have seen the demonstration where they show the entire level load at once in full detail.

So...pfft.Lol exactly my sentiments. Its funny how everybody goes from praising Killzone to pointing out Killzones non-existent "flaws" (not to say Killzone doesn't have any flaws but the ones people are pointing out are imo). Short draw distances? Using fog to cover graphics limitations (unless I misunderstood VG mania and he was actually talking about the game Black)? Small locations? What location(s)? Cause I've only seen one lol.

VideoGame mania
10-31-2007, 05:07 AM
I can't see the ground, legs why, am I going blind ?
Is it bad to like one game's look over another ?
COD4 is my current favorite, Killzone has yet to prove anything.
I don't need to explain any further, by the time KZ hits stores there will be better looking games.
Simple fact, COD4 already is giving KZ run for its graphics. Gameplay yet to be determined.
I was basing my opinion on the visuals only.
http://videogame2play.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/killzone2pic.png

julps31
10-31-2007, 05:14 AM
They are running...am I right? And is it really hurting the game? I imagine you wouldn't notice it while your playing. Plus it probably works well as an effect...regardless if its actually covering up engine limitations or not.

And I couldn't care less if you like one game over the other. Your entitled to your oppinion. Its just people pointing out non-exsistent flaws that rubs me the wrong way.

LaLiLuLeLo
10-31-2007, 05:15 AM
It's motion blur, because there is movement. :-P

In any case, let's move on.

Nameless
10-31-2007, 05:17 AM
It still amazes me how COD4 is compared to an unfinished demo of Killzone 2.
Considering Killzone is still damn near a year away I just don't see the point of the comparisons...
*I guarantee Killzone 2 will not release until fall 08.*

How about we just enjoy the best 3rd party title released on the PS3 and once Killzone 2 is closer to release with more information make the "educated" comparisons.

OG_Monkey
10-31-2007, 05:19 AM
is this thread even about COD4 anymore?

LaLiLuLeLo
10-31-2007, 05:19 AM
I don't need to explain any further, by the time KZ hits stores there will be better looking games.


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v368/Lalilulelo/Ohwow.jpg

Nameless
10-31-2007, 05:22 AM
is this thread even about COD4 anymore?

I guess not... :(

I'm just excited to have Spiderman 3 on Blu-ray this weekend, COD4 on Tuesday & Uncharted demo on Thursday... :thumbl:

LaLiLuLeLo
10-31-2007, 05:25 AM
is this thread even about COD4 anymore?

Nigga, THIS IS WAR!

VideoGame mania
10-31-2007, 05:27 AM
is this thread even about COD4 anymore?
Yes, somebody likes Killzone and rubbed the wrong way.
COD4 demo on Tuesday:thumbl:
Did I miss the memo ?

julps31
10-31-2007, 05:34 AM
Yes, somebody likes Killzone and rubbed the wrong way.Wonder who you could be refering to *sarcasm* lol :lick:

Nameless
10-31-2007, 05:35 AM
^^ COD4 is going to be released next Tuesday man.
*Why are people changing my post, but listing it as a quote?* :rant:

VideoGame mania
10-31-2007, 05:41 AM
Sorry I was joking, I wish the demo was out this week.

Nameless
10-31-2007, 05:43 AM
Unfortunately IW decided not to release a demo...
Since they did the MP beta on the 360, it would have been cool if they released an SP demo exclusively for PS3.
If you listen to the rumors of a short SP campaign they may have decided against an SP demo. There's no need for another 10 minute Heavenly Sword teaser demo...

PUNK em 733
10-31-2007, 05:48 AM
Simple fact, COD4 already is giving KZ run for its graphics

A sane man would have switched the two games. Again an unfinished game with many, many months to a finished product. I say it bodes well for KZ.

We also know that KZ is gonna show what the PS3 is really capable of. You know Sony/Guerilla is really gonna go for broke graphically at least. No other game will come close for some time, me thinks.

VideoGame mania
10-31-2007, 06:01 AM
^
:whip: give it a rest already I got the point, you also rubbed the wrong way ?

PUNK em 733
10-31-2007, 06:04 AM
^
:whip: give it a rest already I got the point, you also rubbed the wrong way ?



No sir, When I'm rubbed, it's always the right way.:pinky::moon::thumbl:

LaLiLuLeLo
10-31-2007, 06:08 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v368/Lalilulelo/batou8mf.gif



We're done, let's move on please. YAY COD4 IS THE SHIT, CAN'T WAIT.
:wank:

VideoGame mania
10-31-2007, 06:26 AM
From the same dude, cam pix
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l97/adams828/DSC03105a.jpg
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l97/adams828/DSC03107a.jpg

LiquidEagle
10-31-2007, 07:05 AM
God DAMN this game looks incredible... my hat's off to Infinity Ward... can't wait to pick this game up. Between this & HAZE I've got my FPS fix for the year :-D

Smokey
10-31-2007, 12:27 PM
does anyone know about AU release date?????

Killing Moon
10-31-2007, 03:55 PM
I can't see the ground, legs why, am I going blind ?
Is it bad to like one game's look over another ?
COD4 is my current favorite, Killzone has yet to prove anything.
I don't need to explain any further, by the time KZ hits stores there will be better looking games.
Simple fact, COD4 already is giving KZ run for its graphics. Gameplay yet to be determined.
I was basing my opinion on the visuals only.
http://videogame2play.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/killzone2pic.png

Dude, is this a pic from Killzone? What game is this?!!

Viper
10-31-2007, 03:58 PM
Killing Moon, that's from KZ2.

Killing Moon
10-31-2007, 04:05 PM
Killing Moon, that's from KZ2.

Good JEEZUS, are you kidding me?
That’s on the same level, if not slightly better than the work for COD4!!?

Damn, I hope KZ2 plays better than 1 did, though I enjoyed it. But my God, the artwork in that engine pic is insane. I nearly choked on my breakfast.

VG Aficionado
10-31-2007, 04:16 PM
WTF? Where have you been? Have you missed the massive Killzone 2 thread (http://forums.e-mpire.com/showthread.php?t=75753&page=59) which started getting KZ2 media since before E3?

And to be honest, Killzone 2 does look better than that pic. I suggest you take a look at that thread.

Killing Moon
10-31-2007, 04:19 PM
WTF? Where have you been? Have you missed the massive Killzone 2 thread (http://forums.e-mpire.com/showthread.php?t=75753&page=59) which started getting KZ2 media since before E3?

And to be honest, Killzone 2 does look better than that pic. I suggest you take a look at that thread.

Dude, I’ve been so F’ing busy here I haven’t had a chance to really explore Killzone 2 like that. But after seeing that pic, I’ll pay more attention.

evillion
10-31-2007, 04:36 PM
honestly, i dont c much in COD4 graphically that challenges KZ2. the character models, animations, lighting and the whole level geometry in kz2 are just too good and it's not even finshed. cod4 is still impressive on its own right, but no, it doesnt touch killzone.

cliffbo
10-31-2007, 05:12 PM
honestly, i dont c much in COD4 graphically that challenges KZ2. the character models, animations, lighting and the whole level geometry in kz2 are just too good and it's not even finshed. cod4 is still impressive on its own right, but no, it doesnt touch killzone.

i think they are very close... got to be honest here. where i think KZ has the edge is in the lighting, facial expressions, interactive cut scenes (when the guy gives out strategic orders in the vid) and how much is going on in the environment. graphically they are more or less on a par

Viper
10-31-2007, 06:12 PM
KZ2 with better lighting? Where?

COD4
http://www.mariannedemooy.com/geeklog/html/images/articles/20070712174748906_5.jpg
http://www.msxbox-world.com/screenshots360/ss/346/screenshot_888856021_1182012334.jpg

LaLiLuLeLo
10-31-2007, 06:16 PM
Here, here and here. (http://forums.e-mpire.com/showthread.php?t=75753)

Viper
10-31-2007, 06:20 PM
Sorry, Lali. I didn't see any lighting that is up to what those two pics produced above.

Don't get me wrong, the KZ2 lighting is good but not that (COD4) good.

LaLiLuLeLo
10-31-2007, 06:21 PM
Ya crazy.

Sephiroth_VII
10-31-2007, 06:31 PM
The fact that KZ2 was pre-alpha when we last saw it should also be taken into consideration ;)

EDIT: Vioer, I think COD4's lightening looks exaggerated, whereas KZ2 is more subtle, but realistic.

LaLiLuLeLo
10-31-2007, 06:38 PM
Yeah seph, the lighting in that particular COD shot at least is really high contrast, really dramatic, but the KZ2 shots are capturing a lot of subtlety in lighting.

dnpmakkah
10-31-2007, 06:40 PM
Lighting in both look good. COD4 is going for the Saving Private Ryan look and Killzone is going for the Hollywood blockbuster look.

http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/35/killzonezi9.jpg

makeitlookreal
10-31-2007, 07:21 PM
Now just imagine how cool it would be for Killzone to have a bright level!

Sephiroth_VII
10-31-2007, 07:29 PM
:emo:

Bright levels won't happen - it's just not the KILLZONE way. KILLZONE is dark and gritty, and that's it.

Viper
10-31-2007, 07:43 PM
Yeah seph, the lighting in that particular COD shot at least is really high contrast, really dramatic, but the KZ2 shots are capturing a lot of subtlety in lighting.

You ever have a helicopter spotlight blasted on you at night while it rains? I have...minus the rain part. It looks a lot like that. I will agree that the color temperature is on the cool side with lots of blue hues.

KRA
10-31-2007, 08:33 PM
Now just imagine how cool it would be for Killzone to have a bright level!

buheheheheehehehehe
now just imagine how strange would it be to read something different from MILR :)

Jay Gee
10-31-2007, 08:52 PM
Lmao!

VG Aficionado
10-31-2007, 09:00 PM
:lol:

masteratt
10-31-2007, 09:07 PM
Weeeeeell, I might as well join the fun.

LMFAO!! :lol:

makeitlookreal
10-31-2007, 09:11 PM
I'm consistent.

Sephiroth_VII
10-31-2007, 09:58 PM
No one is saying that you're not, that's the problem...

makeitlookreal
11-01-2007, 04:45 AM
I just read the game is six hours long.

I hope it is half-price if that is the case.

LiquidEagle
11-01-2007, 05:09 AM
I just read the game is six hours long.

I hope it is half-price if that is the case.

LaLi, please step in here.

chartwel
11-01-2007, 05:30 AM
Sorry, Lali. I didn't see any lighting that is up to what those two pics produced above.

Don't get me wrong, the KZ2 lighting is good but not that (COD4) good.

go watch some footage on youtube, yes not great quality but you get to see some really great lighting effects. and remember, this is only one level.

i really recommend this one.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-wFd9gTpyt0

Viper
11-01-2007, 06:03 AM
Chartwell, not bad just as I said but as before, look at those two pics. That lighting in COD4 is just nuts.

chartwel
11-01-2007, 06:41 AM
hmmm to each his own. i guess i dont see the amazing in COD4 while you dont see the amazing in KZ2.............of course i am definitely not saying the lighting in COD is bad.

PUNK em 733
11-01-2007, 08:46 AM
Here's the one thing that baffles me about MILR, how in the hell did he get a rep of 39, who in god's name is repping this brick????

Nameless
11-01-2007, 08:50 AM
Check out some PS3 picks of COD4:

http://gameplanets.blogspot.com/2007/10/cod4-ps3-screenshots.html

karibu
11-01-2007, 11:35 AM
So better lighting is the brighter lighting...?
Live and learn.

COD4 looks nice, might give it a chance.

makeitlookreal
11-01-2007, 01:56 PM
This is a great looking game. The textures look great, the polygon count looks great, and it looks really fun.

I'm just disturbed that it is only a six hour long game!

the boney king of nowhere.
11-01-2007, 01:57 PM
yeah, that kinda sucks.

archy121
11-01-2007, 02:12 PM
Well i say get over it :whip:

It's biggest selling strength is top notch online multilayer which is something that gives the game lot more lasting appeal & replay value. Combine that with its terrific graphics & we have something very special & needed for PS3's online community.


I say to the moaners on this subject - Move on.

VG Aficionado
11-01-2007, 02:17 PM
Don't say that before you play it... although I've got the feeling someone won't play it just because he believed what he heard :duh:

It doesn't take the same time for everyone to finish a single game. As a matter of fact, some people are unable to finish any games at all. Just because you read on the internet that someone thinks it's a 6 hours long game or that some people can finish it in six hours doesn't mean it's true. Besides, it has online multiplayer, which effectively extends its replayability value as much as you want.

the boney king of nowhere.
11-01-2007, 02:33 PM
i don't care about multiplayer

archy121
11-01-2007, 02:46 PM
i don't care about multiplayer

Well that's simple than.
If the game does turn out to be 6 hours long than its not for you.
Plenty more FPS around the corner to consider.

I can see why many people moaned at the short length of Heavenly Sword. It had no online multiplayer gameplay to extend the length of it's single player campaign. This is not the case with COD4. The online part of the game can make this game potentially last years -A bit like the Counter Strike phenomena on the PC. After having played the PC demo of COD4 i can see qualities in this game that can potentially do the same for the PS3 online community as what the Counter Strike did for the PC.

VG Aficionado
11-01-2007, 02:48 PM
That's not the main point anyway. All I'm saying is that you don't have to believe what random people say on the Internet. People keep saying Heavenly Sword is short and it took me a good while to complete. However, I'm not the kind of gamer who just plays the games in a rush like some people do. There are many ways to play a game and I'm not sure everyone just shoots and goes forward and does absolutely nothing else than that.

More on topic: I liked those latest PS3 screenshots. It's looking very impressive and it does run great on PS3, although I'm still not as impressed as with Killzone 2 from all I've seen so far. But in any case, you can only play both games on PS3 :-p

the boney king of nowhere.
11-01-2007, 02:59 PM
it takes me forever to complete games anyway.

Viper
11-01-2007, 04:13 PM
Nuts I tell you....nuts.



http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y122/viperempire/COD1.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y122/viperempire/COD2.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y122/viperempire/COD3.jpg

Nameless
11-01-2007, 04:30 PM
Anyone saying COD4 is not a "value", because of a short SP campaign is an idiot IMO... The game has an RPG like ranking system for MP providing hundreds of hours of gaming. This mentality of wanting everything in a game at a price point of $60 or less is killing the industry and making big budget titles very risky for developers/publishers. If the game has incredible MP I view an engaging SP campaign as icing on the cake period...

The primary game that comes to mind is Socom; I never completed the SP campaign on any Socom title. I basically went to MP out of the box and played the SP campaign later out of curiosity.
*I had to copy my buddies memory card to have all the characters unlocked in Socom 2...*
I think Sony is on to something with releasing MP titles only for a discounted price.

LaLiLuLeLo
11-01-2007, 04:42 PM
Close-minded I tell you! Just close minded. I love single player but the most fun I've had, since I was able to play the NES is playing with and against people.

Jay Gee
11-01-2007, 04:43 PM
Yeah, Warhawk is so damn deep, it would've been a problem trying to do SP/MP. I'm actually kind of afraid of what I might do when KZ2 comes out. The only reason I played through KZ1's SP was because I had no broadband internet connection at the time. But once I got one, it was online only afterwards. They're gonna have to make that SP campaign extremely compelling to keep everybody from just going straight to online.

On topic, that helicopter looks incredible. And that third screenshot looks like somebody's backyard here in GA.

Nameless
11-01-2007, 05:47 PM
I had to post one more screen shot exclusive to PS3! ;)

http://www.vertigogaming.net/HUD/isthatheywaitasec.jpg

LaLiLuLeLo
11-01-2007, 05:49 PM
hahahahahahahah

Sephiroth_VII
11-01-2007, 05:55 PM
Wtf?

Jay Gee
11-01-2007, 05:59 PM
"Waste the motherfuckers!"

Viper
11-01-2007, 06:12 PM
That must be Leeeeeeeroy Jeeeeeeenkins.

Red_Eyes
11-01-2007, 06:20 PM
I had to post one more screen shot exclusive to PS3! ;)

http://www.vertigogaming.net/HUD/isthatheywaitasec.jpg

Samuel L. Jackson

makeitlookreal
11-01-2007, 06:22 PM
The fact of the matter is that games like this one should not charge the same price if they are very short.

I hope the new trend will not be shorter single player campaigns.

ddaryl
11-01-2007, 07:30 PM
COD series IMO is all about multi-player.

I prefer MP on shooters, and if the MP is tight then its worth the cost

COD4 is getting awesome reviews. I wasn't even cosidering it but the reviews across the board have me thinking about picking it up just for the MP portion.

Killing Moon
11-01-2007, 07:36 PM
Nuts I tell you....nuts.



http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y122/viperempire/COD1.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y122/viperempire/COD2.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y122/viperempire/COD3.jpg

Good God almighty. How did they do this?!!

Jay Gee
11-01-2007, 07:42 PM
They...programmed it.

the boney king of nowhere.
11-01-2007, 07:46 PM
lol

Viper
11-01-2007, 07:49 PM
Good God almighty. How did they do this?!!
Exactly. Now compare that to the KZ2 pic you saw before. This is what I'm trying to get people to see but it's like they're hooked to a Sony laptop battery and if they say anything else looks better than KZ2, it will explode on them.
They...programmed it.
Ok, that's was funny. Score one for you.

KRA
11-01-2007, 08:02 PM
Exactly. Now compare that to the KZ2 pic you saw before. This is what I'm trying to get people to see but it's like they're hooked to a Sony laptop battery and if they say anything else looks better than KZ2, it will explode on them.

try harder and you will make them see it like you see it eventually.
anyway i don't know if it's better than kz2.
what i see that it has very different art design. more realistic.
so i assume that's what makes some people to think that looks better.
i like kz2 design more so...

archy121
11-01-2007, 08:19 PM
Exactly. Now compare that to the KZ2 pic you saw before. This is what I'm trying to get people to see but it's like they're hooked to a Sony laptop battery and if they say anything else looks better than KZ2, it will explode on them.

Ok, that's was funny. Score one for you.

Actually i believe KZ2 & COD4 are technically worlds apart.

KZ2 is using the latest graphics techniques to create a unique world whereas COD4 is taking a more regular techniques to deliver a regular world - And doing a brilliant job of it.

The only thing we can possibly say about COD4 over the final KZ2 is that it's game play may end up being superior. KZ2's game play cannot be commented on yet but in terms of graphics its truly unmatched. It uses lots of new graphics techniques to deliver the game which makes me look at it as a revolutionary product than a evolutionary one.

Don't be fooled by the grey terrain of the Hellghast world we have witnessed so far.

Hopefully Gurilla Games will take notes & introduce some scenarios with a more colourful palette to satisfy the nay sayers.

Viper
11-01-2007, 08:31 PM
Don't be fooled by the grey terrain of the Hellghast world we have witnessed so far.

Does that mean you are also speculating the lighting will be better in KZ2?

New techniques do not guarantee superiority at all. Don't be bought by the hype. Look at what you can see thus far.

VG Aficionado
11-01-2007, 09:01 PM
Does that mean you are also speculating the lighting will be better in KZ2?

Speculating? Not only the developers said so, but you should remember it's still far from being finished.

There's a great COD4 trailer in the Japanese store. It looks awesome, but I really am not that impressed as with Killzone 2. Just my opinion.

archy121
11-01-2007, 09:29 PM
Does that mean you are also speculating the lighting will be better in KZ2?

New techniques do not guarantee superiority at all. Don't be bought by the hype. Look at what you can see thus far.

No one has seen the final KZ2 which is still very far & we have glimpses of it.
On the other hand I have played the COD4 demo on a mid ranged gaming PC -1024*768 4xAA.

The lighting is good in COD4 but nothing we haven't seen before.
I feel COD4 is absolutely brilliant as it delivers a great all round product -especially game play. It doesn't try to do something graphically new like Lair & fall apart when it comes to game play. It does what it sets out to do very well.

On the other hand i feel KZ2 is doing new things like Lair but will hopefully have game play to deliver as well.

Like i said, i think some people like yourself are under estimating the graphics quality of KZ2 due to its colour palette. There is lot going on in terms of physics & lighting that are not being noticed immediately . These things create am immersive effect that you cannot appreciate in screen shots but feel when you actually play it.

I am not trying to knock COD4 but i think its unrealistic to say it will be graphically superior to the final KZ2.

makeitlookreal
11-01-2007, 09:37 PM
I think both of these games look great in their own way. For example, KZ2 dark and dreary and this game sometimes sunny.

I think the length of the game will be the deciding factor. In my opinion, paying 59.99 dollars for a short game is a little bit of a rip off.

KRA
11-01-2007, 09:38 PM
I think the length of the game will be the deciding factor. In my opinion, paying 59.99 dollars for a short game is a little bit of a rip off.

say it again... please...

GTShotoKen
11-01-2007, 09:42 PM
I think the length of the game will be the deciding factor. In my opinion, paying 59.99 dollars for a short game is a little bit of a rip off.

Well, I've been hearing that CoD4 has some of the best multiplayer around.

There is longevity, just not in single-player (depending on your standards).

Diresu
11-01-2007, 11:27 PM
I think both of these games look great in their own way. For example, KZ2 dark and dreary and this game sometimes sunny.

I think the length of the game will be the deciding factor. In my opinion, paying 59.99 dollars for a short game is a little bit of a rip off.

Personally I am just annoyed how little importance single player plays for a lot of these devs. Makes me glad for Insomniac and ND and their way of thinking.

PUNK em 733
11-02-2007, 08:28 AM
I think both of these games look great in their own way. For example, KZ2 dark and dreary and this game sometimes sunny.

I think the length of the game will be the deciding factor. In my opinion, paying 59.99 dollars for a short game is a little bit of a rip off.



http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i60/munchkin_2/Beat_Dead_HorseSanitysBlog.jpg




You've only mentioned this 4 billion times, a few more times and it might get through.

yoshaw
11-02-2007, 09:16 AM
^Couldn't have said it better.

archy121
11-02-2007, 11:30 AM
@PUNK em 733 :lol:


So true.. Its actually not funny

VG Aficionado
11-02-2007, 01:00 PM
:lol:

It'll never stop :cry2:

karibu
11-02-2007, 01:13 PM
Singleplayer 6 hours?
It will score 10/10 =/

Smokey
11-02-2007, 01:48 PM
when does it release ANYWHERE

masteratt
11-02-2007, 01:49 PM
^haha:

USA: November 6, 2007
PAL: November 9, 2007

dendj55
11-02-2007, 02:01 PM
I am disappointed, I just found out I will be on the road for work from Monday into Thursday of next week. That means my first taste at CoD4 won't be until Thursday night or Friday.... sadness has overtaken me:(

yoshaw
11-02-2007, 02:17 PM
Ima gonna play it Day Uno!! Altho mine would be on 360, I'll post impressions regardless. The game doesn't require any fandom of one side to call it superb. It's so awesome!! Also, playing Uncharted Day 1 as well :D yaaay

masteratt
11-02-2007, 02:38 PM
Altho mine would be on 360
DIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Mine will be on PC ¬_¬

yoshaw
11-02-2007, 03:23 PM
^lmao :laugh:

I'm playing COD4 on my friends expense. Saving my 60 bucks for Uncharted. You'd agree it's a sound trade, yea? ;)

dnpmakkah
11-02-2007, 04:08 PM
I think COD4 looks great in the daylight footage but not so much during the night scenes. In contrast Killzone 2 might be the exact opposite, where it looks great at night but the bright scenes could struggle (but we wont' know untill we see more of Killzone).
http://img236.imageshack.us/img236/3498/cod4kz2we2.jpg

Nameless
11-02-2007, 04:11 PM
How about we lay off the COD4 VS Killzone 2 post until we see some newer pics and not the pre alpha build of Killzone 2...

VG Aficionado
11-02-2007, 04:32 PM
How about we lay off the COD4 VS Killzone 2 post until we see some newer pics and not the pre alpha build of Killzone 2...That's what I've been saying all the time, but someone had to make of this a different thread when there's plenty of good things to talk about both titles in their respective threads. Besides, you can only play both games on PS3, so what's the point?

Nameless
11-02-2007, 04:36 PM
^ I see your point, but some will try to use COD4 as a back handed slap to Killzone 2 considering COD4 is multiplatform. It just does not make sense comparing a final polished product to a work in progress. Also, I don't understand how people consider one level of Killzone being indicative of the entire level design and gaming experience...

julps31
11-02-2007, 06:06 PM
^ I see your point, but some will try to use COD4 as a back handed slap to Killzone 2 considering COD4 is multiplatform. It just does not make sense comparing a final polished product to a work in progress. Also, I don't understand how people consider one level of Killzone being indicative of the entire level design and gaming experience...Agreed. :cheers: Well said...

LiquidEagle
11-02-2007, 06:12 PM
On top of that, let's play both games and be glad we can :-D

VG Aficionado
11-02-2007, 06:16 PM
:pleased:

I'm definitely getting KZ2, but I would like to play at least a PS3 COD4 demo since I'm liking what I'm seeing. I just don't really enjoy FPS games, but once in a while...

jako
11-02-2007, 09:39 PM
Nuts I tell you....nuts.



http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y122/viperempire/COD1.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y122/viperempire/COD2.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y122/viperempire/COD3.jpg

I really have a hard time believing that these are real screens from the PS3 version of COD4.
I've just played the demo of COD4 on a top end PC and it looks far from these screenshots.

I have two ways of understanding this :
- these pictures are "photoshoped"
OR
- the PS3 version is WAY superior to PC version, which I doubt.

Your thought guys ont this ?

Nameless
11-02-2007, 09:43 PM
^Pictures taken off screen tend to look better, because it provides additional AA... I would say take a look at some direct feed pics from IGN or some other site if you want a better representation of the final product.

Also, I played the beta on 360 and those shots seem legit considering the visuals of the MP.
*I would assume those are taken from the SP campaign.*

jako
11-02-2007, 09:48 PM
I don't know for the XBOX 360 version but for the PC version the lighting is far from these pictures, the textures are also far from this.

I mean on a PC it is an amasing game, and on this screens it tends to look like reality, there is a big difference for me.

VG Aficionado
11-02-2007, 09:59 PM
Don't question the power of PS3 ;)

cliffbo
11-02-2007, 10:27 PM
these comparisons make me laugh. first we see footage of KZ2 that everyone agrees can't be done because it's too cinematic, then we get actual game play footage that shows that the game HAS equaled the video footage, then people start saying that GOW looked better than KZ2, even though the argument still raged on about the vid AFTER GOW was released! only after the vid was equaled did anyone compare GOW... (see how flawed that logic is) suddenly the impossible had already been done, but no-one noticed until we saw KZ :shrug: now we are saying that COD looks better, even though we know they are using lighting techniques in KZ2 that have never been implemented on this level before (and it isn't finished yet!) so COD looks better than a Vid that was impossible... sigh

jako
11-02-2007, 11:51 PM
can't +rep you cliff, but you're dam right on this

Killing Moon
11-03-2007, 12:27 AM
these comparisons make me laugh. first we see footage of KZ2 that everyone agrees can't be done because it's too cinematic, then we get actual game play footage that shows that the game HAS equaled the video footage, then people start saying that GOW looked better than KZ2, even though the argument still raged on about the vid AFTER GOW was released! only after the vid was equaled did anyone compare GOW... (see how flawed that logic is) suddenly the impossible had already been done, but no-one noticed until we saw KZ :shrug: now we are saying that COD looks better, even though we know they are using lighting techniques in KZ2 that have never been implemented on this level before (and it isn't finished yet!) so COD looks better than a Vid that was impossible... sigh

LMFAO
That post was just too good.

julps31
11-03-2007, 01:07 AM
these comparisons make me laugh. first we see footage of KZ2 that everyone agrees can't be done because it's too cinematic, then we get actual game play footage that shows that the game HAS equaled the video footage, then people start saying that GOW looked better than KZ2, even though the argument still raged on about the vid AFTER GOW was released! only after the vid was equaled did anyone compare GOW... (see how flawed that logic is) suddenly the impossible had already been done, but no-one noticed until we saw KZ :shrug: now we are saying that COD looks better, even though we know they are using lighting techniques in KZ2 that have never been implemented on this level before (and it isn't finished yet!) so COD looks better than a Vid that was impossible... sighLol my thoughts exactly. I really feel that people are simply judging from the new screens rather then from actually playing the game or watching gameplay vids. Its funny...Killzone goes from "OMG best looking game ever!!". To "eh COD looks better" lol. And i'm not being stubborn...but i'm realistic. If it looks better then it looks better. But I don't think thats the case.

After watching the most recent COD vids..and then the old Killzone E3 vids. I definantly think that Killzone is unmatched visually. Even though COD looks great. The animation, lighting, special effects in Killzone are on another level. I still stick by my statement that killzone could pass as cg in some instances lol.

VG Aficionado
11-03-2007, 01:52 AM
It's also quite a flawed argument to state which one looks better when you're not seeing it in motion. Killzone 2 is mighty impressive in the gameplay videos, something I haven't felt about COD4. It's relatively easy to find games with awesome textures and character models and whatnot, but fail at giving a great impression when you watch gameplay.

Red_Eyes
11-03-2007, 06:14 AM
For sure, Killzone has the best animations and physics.

Viper
11-03-2007, 09:51 AM
Hey, Cliffbo....seems the idea of comparing graphics from other games to KZ2 started long ago by our very own graphic indulger.


http://forums.e-mpire.com/showthread.php?t=78527

jaxmkii
11-03-2007, 03:14 PM
I can see the COD4 360 VS PS3 comparison videos now...

they only do that when 360 has the advantage... expect it to be buried.

Jay Gee
11-03-2007, 03:34 PM
I thought PS3 Oblivion beat out 360 Oblivion?

VG Aficionado
11-03-2007, 03:36 PM
And it does.

yoshaw
11-03-2007, 06:53 PM
My e-penis is longer than anyone else's. Beat that sucka's :evil:

jaxmkii
11-03-2007, 07:27 PM
6 hours of awsome is better than 80 hours of BS.

Smokey
11-03-2007, 07:29 PM
6 hours of awsome is better than 80 hours of BS.

Segitz
11-03-2007, 08:50 PM
6 hours of awsome is better than 80 hours of BS.

Yes, but 12hrs (GoW, MGS...) of awesomeness is better than 6hrs (not counting MP, because not everybody wants or likes it, like me)

VG Aficionado
11-03-2007, 10:20 PM
MGS games take me ~25 hours to complete.

masteratt
11-03-2007, 10:20 PM
It took me 20 hours 12mins to complete MGS3.

Just re-played CoD4 demo......awesome awesome awesome.

Viper
11-03-2007, 10:23 PM
Most of the good action games I played last generation were 15-20 hours. Many were much more. I'd feel ripped if they were just 6 hours.

VG Aficionado
11-04-2007, 12:04 AM
3D screenshot (http://www.infinityward.com/modernwarfare/downloads/3dscreenshot_4.mov)

julps31
11-04-2007, 01:49 AM
3D screenshot (http://www.infinityward.com/modernwarfare/downloads/3dscreenshot_4.mov)Nice. I feel like i'm in the game lol.

liahos1
11-04-2007, 04:17 AM
So my friend got a copy of COD4 at Videogamesnewyork for the 360 (interestingly the ps3 version has been selling faster according to the sales girl and they were all sold out).

Assuming both the ps3 and 360 version look the same I would say that:

First off the game looks great and plays well too. Very cinematic stuff indeed. Multiplayer and control scheme took some getting used to (not a big COD fan in the past when it was all WW2) but once I got use to it it seemed pretty intuitive...What I will say is this (and please dont flame on me for saying it :closed:)...for some reason the screenshots actually looked better to me than the live gameplay. Not to say the graphics aren't great and I do realize there was a tradeoff to get it to 60fps but I wouldnt say the graphics are spooge inducing (though much better than what I saw of H3). I think this statement is corroborated by some of the people who've played the PC version. All in all I'm definetly picking this up anyway as the overall package seems to be very much worth it...but for those waiting for a KZ2 graphics killer this isn't going to be it (based on the downloaded E3 trailer I took from PSN)....

nMIK-3
11-04-2007, 08:07 AM
Thanks for the images

KRA
11-04-2007, 11:46 AM
GameTrailers: Exclusive Arcade Mode Trailer (http://www.gametrailers.com/player/27443.html)

Chris Metal
11-04-2007, 03:41 PM
Wow lots of pointless comparisons in this thread, what happened to just playing the games?

One's this year. One's next year... Get 'em both. Jeeese. :D

VG Aficionado
11-04-2007, 04:15 PM
People use the Internet to hate on what they used to enjoy :(

Nameless
11-04-2007, 04:56 PM
^ Sad, but true...
I like discussing my favorite hobby on forums, but in some ways it kind of ruins the experience. It's kind of like not noticing something, but after someone points it out you can't go back... It makes me think of cliché, "Ignorance is pure bliss."

masteratt
11-04-2007, 05:26 PM
And if ignorance is pure bliss, knowledge is painful agony ;)

Damn I should write these down.....Unless it's already been said by someone?

VG Aficionado
11-04-2007, 07:26 PM
And if ignorance is pure bliss, knowledge is painful agony ;)

Damn I should write these down.....Unless it's already been said by someone?

http://frank.geekheim.de/old/archives/knowledge_brings_fear.gif

And pain.

cliffbo
11-04-2007, 07:32 PM
^ Sad, but true...
I like discussing my favorite hobby on forums, but in some ways it kind of ruins the experience. It's kind of like not noticing something, but after someone points it out you can't go back... It makes me think of cliché, "Ignorance is pure bliss."

absolutely true! back in the days when games where simply played and not over-scrutinized in 'stills' i actually had a better and more enjoyable experience

Fillibuster
11-04-2007, 07:49 PM
^Before the PS2 came out I knew absolutely nothing about it. When I popped in the first game I was blown away by the graphics...everything. When the 360 came out, and later the PS3, I had seen everything before on the internet, and it didn't have the same effect. Although hearing that startup music for the PS3 had that "Finally!" kind of thing going for it! :thumbr:

Epix
11-04-2007, 07:52 PM
^ Sad, but true...
I like discussing my favorite hobby on forums, but in some ways it kind of ruins the experience. It's kind of like not noticing something, but after someone points it out you can't go back... It makes me think of cliché, "Ignorance is pure bliss."QFT. Sometimes I think the devs should wait until a week before release to really show the game.

curryking1
11-04-2007, 07:59 PM
Well the internet is information (doesn't need to be good information :P) on demand, so that's just not going to happen sadly.

There's too much business opportunity and exposure devs can't afford to miss with everyone taking advantage of it now.

Just the way it's going to be now lol.

My best scenario for me is information that is released in big bangs (a la KZ2 or something) instead of trickling information so you basically know everything before you get the game.

Fillibuster
11-04-2007, 08:03 PM
And I've made my decision. It's a catch 22. Now that I want to get into the gaming industry in any way possible, I enjoy picking up bits of info on the development of a game. Sure I don't get the same wow factor when I pop a game in, but instead I get a lot of smaller wow moments...

Killing Moon
11-04-2007, 08:04 PM
GameTrailers: Exclusive Arcade Mode Trailer (http://www.gametrailers.com/player/27443.html)

Wow, this is the game in motion? I couldn't tell, but what version were they playing? I could see an icon in the in-game UI, but couldn't tell if it was the PS or Xbox "X" button. :-(

cliffbo
11-04-2007, 08:05 PM
Well the internet is information (doesn't need to be good information :P) on demand, so that's just not going to happen sadly.

There's too much business opportunity and exposure devs can't afford to miss with everyone taking advantage of it now.

Just the way it's going to be now lol.

My best scenario for me is information that is released in big bangs (a la KZ2 or something) instead of trickling information so you basically know everything before you get the game.

i agree... i saw most of HS before i saw the game played and it spoilt it a little. although i don't worry too much about seeing plenty of RAC because i know how big that is

Epix
11-04-2007, 09:09 PM
3D Screenshot 1 (http://www.infinityward.com/modernwarfare/downloads/3dscreenshot_1.mov)
3D Screenshot 2 (http://www.infinityward.com/modernwarfare/downloads/3dscreenshot_2.mov)
3D Screenshot 3 (http://www.infinityward.com/modernwarfare/downloads/3dscreenshot_3.mov)
3D Screenshot 4 (http://www.infinityward.com/modernwarfare/downloads/3dscreenshot_4.mov)
3D Screenshot 5 (http://www.infinityward.com/modernwarfare/downloads/3dscreenshot_5.mov)

cliffbo
11-04-2007, 09:19 PM
don't know if this is new:

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/27444.html

cliffbo
11-04-2007, 10:12 PM
on the PS3forums. can anyone confirm this?

COD:4 for PS3 @ 1080p CONFIRMED!! - 16 Minutes Ago
Just uncheck 720p in your XMB display settings and the game plays in 1080p.
btw it looks even better @ this resolution, all I have to say is WOW, what a game.

http://ps3forums.com/showthread.php?t=107740

Red_Eyes
11-04-2007, 10:14 PM
This game is coming out in 2 days and there's no reviews at all yet?

FantasyGhost
11-05-2007, 12:31 AM
uLW3LTRc-mg

GTAce
11-05-2007, 12:38 AM
Okay now i wanna play this game. Oo

Damn i didnt knew that enemy die so fast, great!

rob the slob
11-05-2007, 12:48 AM
on the PS3forums. can anyone confirm this?



http://ps3forums.com/showthread.php?t=107740

IW said its 720p native. It upscales to 1080p.

julps31
11-05-2007, 01:30 AM
uLW3LTRc-mgNice. Looks like tons of fun.. :) And i'm with red eye...where are the website reviews? I guess we'll be seeing a good deal of them tomorrow.

jaxmkii
11-05-2007, 03:10 AM
This game is coming out in 2 days and there's no reviews at all yet?

only the games where 360 looks better get attention from the media...

Epix
11-05-2007, 03:35 AM
on the PS3forums. can anyone confirm this?



http://ps3forums.com/showthread.php?t=107740I can confirm that the game supports 1080p. It's native 720p meaning the 1080p is an upscale of the native render.

Nameless
11-05-2007, 03:38 AM
I just got the game for 360 today and it's visually stunning, the best FPS visually on the 360... I still plan to buy the PS3 version Tuesday so I can play with my brother online. I will offer my thoughts on a side by side comparison next week.

Epix
11-05-2007, 03:45 AM
:drool:

http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/3550/a1ot3.jpg

http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/8232/a2pa8.jpg

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http://img399.imageshack.us/img399/995/a18jf7.jpg

http://img399.imageshack.us/img399/9159/a17gi5.jpg

http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/9927/a19wm2.jpg

Red_Eyes
11-05-2007, 03:59 AM
Respect for Infinity Ward.

LaLiLuLeLo
11-05-2007, 04:02 AM
Yeah, I'm getting this game, but not on day one, because I got every game that came out in October pretty much (haha) so I need to temper myself and get a few hundred dollars off this credit card. :P

Red_Eyes
11-05-2007, 04:06 AM
I knew this month and next month is going to be expensive. That's why I've been saving ahead.

curryking1
11-05-2007, 05:09 AM
Wow.

Ok wow.

IW has seriously outdone themselves, and the rest of the shooter market. It's saying a lot more that they've outdone themselves though, and by a large, large margin.

Not a fan of COD2, maybe a little bit COD3 even though that might be a different scenario.

I see this as the true step up from COD1. That game blew me away. This game is doing a similar thing to me.

Wow. There is a reason this game is getting so much attention, it's easy to see why. I'll have this on my PC no problemo soon enough, hell yes.

D3adcell
11-05-2007, 05:16 AM
Wow, those screenshots look really nice. I will be picking this game up sometime tomorrow for 360. This will probably be the best FPS released this year.

curryking1
11-05-2007, 05:36 AM
^Definitely. Graphics, check. Sick animations, check. Sweet and explosive SP, check. Sick MP component online and off, check.

You really can't go wrong with purchasing this game, it has a bit of everything and everything in it is done exceptionally well.

Smokey
11-05-2007, 07:03 AM
just paid for it today.. i was told wednesday here in AU :)

Shogun042
11-05-2007, 09:07 PM
i picked it up today, all i have to say is, my god. infinity ward has done everything right. EVERYTHING. the presentation, the graphics, the controls, it's beautiful :cry2:

in a week or two i'll have 1080p shots of the game up, until then later today i should have some 720p up.

D3adcell
11-05-2007, 09:23 PM
I've got a few more hours wait before Gamestop gets it in.

I think i am going to play through single player first. Maybe take a little break in between for online multi.

I got to play the beta and it had me hooked. Though I have a 360 and think Live is great, I never really got a game that has really sucked me in online and had me hooked, or even been close, as much as Socom did. Though I have to say from the Beta I think this will be close to that. The game has clans and the leveling up/unlocking part adds a lot of replayability.

OG_Monkey
11-05-2007, 09:23 PM
damn im so broke http://forums.e-mpire.com/images/smilies/cry.gif

julps31
11-06-2007, 01:09 AM
The IGN Review is in...9.4 :)

http://ps3.ign.com/articles/832/832797p1.html

OG_Monkey
11-06-2007, 01:35 AM
http://www.gametrailers.com/player/27308.html

Gametrailers - 9.4

Diresu
11-06-2007, 01:50 AM
http://www.1up.com/do/reviewPage?cId=3164177

9.5 from 1up.

curryking1
11-06-2007, 01:54 AM
I would normally say... the gaming media is handing out 9.5s like there's no tomorrow, but this is one game that might deserve the high praise and those scores (according to the gaming media scales I think, not my own because I like to be picky :P). It really is, really, really good.

Diresu
11-06-2007, 02:00 AM
I would normally say... the gaming media is handing out 9.5s like there's no tomorrow, but this is one game that might deserve the high praise and those scores (according to the gaming media scales I think, not my own because I like to be picky :P). It really is, really, really good.

Im just waiting for gamespot to give it the 7.5 it obviously deserves.