Eternal Sonata - demo available now

[FantasyGhost]

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You might be at the end of Eternal Sonata (aka Trusty Bell: Chopin’s Dream). Maybe you earned the 1,000 achievement points and unlocked everything. However, you’re playing the incomplete version of Eternal Sonata.

Next year Eternal Sonata arrives on the Playstation 3 with bonus content (http://www.dengekionline.com/data/news/2007/11/1/c79e9a48be4a902eced073cb65f138e9.html). Non playable characters Serenade and Prince Crescendo join the party and Tri-Crecendo is adding extra story sequences. Ouch for early adopters. This is the one time I’m hoping Namco Bandai is going to sell extra content for Xbox 360 owners. I would much rather buy a $10 Eternal Sonata “never ending dream” expansion pack than a whole new game.http://www.siliconera.com/2007/10/31/only-for-playstation-3-eternal-sonata’s-extra-characters/

[Diresu]

Sweet

[LaLiLuLeLo]

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[Lucent Beam]

Meh, I can't really see Crescendo and Serenade adding much to the game except filling the character menu screen.
I dunno, they obviously were going to put characters in those slots and I think the developers just held out so that it'd have more of a reason to sell on PS3.

Supposedly there are also going to be different outfits and stuff too or whatever.
Ehhhhhh..... Eternal Sonata is awesome but I wouldn't buy the extra content for the 360 version.

AND CLICK MY SIG AND REGISTER FOR THE SITE TO WIN FREE STUFF. :P

[LaLiLuLeLo]

So is eternal sonata any good?

[Sephiroth_VII]

I've wanted to play Eternal Sonata since I read the review in EDGE, so this is good news for me.

[Lucent Beam]

ETERNAL SONATA IS AMAZING.
I couldn't put it down til I beat it.
Seriously, I was playing like 6 to 8 hours a day....

[LaLiLuLeLo]

I'm gonna get it for PS3 and if I'm not freaked out with fun you owe me 60 bucks.

[karibu]

I like this potential I'm paying for =)

There's no enough jrpgs on PS3, all is welcome.

[KRA]

Meh, I can't really see Crescendo and Serenade adding much to the game except filling the character menu screen.
I dunno, they obviously were going to put characters in those slots and I think the developers just held out so that it'd have more of a reason to sell on PS3.

Supposedly there are also going to be different outfits and stuff too or whatever.
Ehhhhhh..... Eternal Sonata is awesome but I wouldn't buy the extra content for the 360 version.

AND CLICK MY SIG AND REGISTER FOR THE SITE TO WIN FREE STUFF. :P

ETERNAL SONATA IS AMAZING.
I couldn't put it down til I beat it.
Seriously, I was playing like 6 to 8 hours a day....

yeah so it's AMAZING but you wouldn't buy any extra content :)
and everything extra on ps3 must be meh
and you advertise some site where i can win free xbox xopy
whatever :)

I've wanted to play Eternal Sonata since I read the review in EDGE, so this is good news for me.

yeah i wanted to play it since i read that it's about chopin.
you know he is polish.
and i like jrpgs :)

[JasonXe]

one month after ps3 release, its going to be put on xbl as downloadable content. $$$$

[Lucent Beam]

yeah so it's AMAZING but you wouldn't buy any extra content :)
and everything extra on ps3 must be meh
and you advertise some site where i can win free xbox xopy
whatever :)

And everything on PS3 must be meh?
Actually no.. so lose your attitude?
That same site will reopen when it comes out on PS3, so what's the big deal? Anything that's in the 360 game is also be in the PS3 version and the site is obviously run by Namco-Bandai, not Microsoft itself, so the site is definitely work checking out because it's got tons and tons of stuff on the game.

Yes, the game is amazing, don't patronize me. But I already paid $60 for it, and I'm not sinking more money into buying potentional downloadable content when it comes for free on the PS3 version. I obviously already have played the game so I know who the characters are and there's already a 'couple' you use to fight with. Crescendo seems like he'd be very similar to Jazz and Serenade seems like she'd be very similar to Claves. I could be wrong on those counts, but Eternal Sonata already use cloned characters in March and Salsa (though I really liked them both). I think it's a cop-out for Namco to not have included those characters in the 360 version if they were going to use them at all, as the final character selection screen obviously has 2 blank spots available. Also, the adding of the extra story part... like, what gives Namco? It's clearly just a marketing ploy so that people will want to rebuy the game on PS3, which is fine, but I feel like it'd be insulting to offer me that extra PS3-exclusive content on Xbox Live and make me pay more for a game than a PS3 owner. I really feel that, as playable, Serenade and Crescendo won't add much more to the game (I pretty much know exactly when they'd join your team because it made sense for that to happen during that part and just didn't) and that point, they would just end up being extra bodies for you to pick from. Of course, it's possible the extra story content could tie in there, but who knows.

I never said that all the extra stuff on PS3 will be meh, just that Serenade and Crescendo as playable doesn't really excite me... and that I'm not paying even MORE for all the new featues. Obviously the superior version is going to be the PS3 version, so if you're trying to pin me as some MS fangirl, then be quiet.

[KRA]

I never said that all the extra stuff on PS3 will be meh, just that Serenade and Crescendo as playable doesn't really excite me... and that I'm not paying even MORE for all the new featues. Obviously the superior version is going to be the PS3 version, so if you're trying to pin me as some MS fangirl, then be quiet.

it's just that i would like the extra stuff to be more than extra meh.
but you probably right. so i won't cry over my dead excitement.
and if you want to pin me as some SONY fanboy be my guest :)

[Lucent Beam]

I think the characters won't add much, and I'm not sure about the costumes (I already think the characters designs are awesome, but I figure that then the extra outfits will look just as awesome as well? It would be cool though if you got to pick who is running around on the world map.) HOWEVER, the extra story content is probably going to really freaking cool. As much as I love Eternal Sonata, they spend a lot of the game doing stuff not related to the main plot and then the ending is relly really weak. SO, if I were you, I'd be really really excited about the extra story, because really no matter what it is, THAT'S the big part that will make the 360 version incomplete compared to the PS3 version. And if people play it and that extra part is as cool as I think it is, then maybe I'll eat my words and buy it if it's downloadable.... maybe...

[LaLiLuLeLo]

Lucent Baby you're not up here too much, but don't mind KRA, he's from the far reaches of easter Europe. ;)
Don't take anything he says too seriously, or get defensive against him, he's got a big mouth. And an obsession with the return key for that matter.

[KRA]

Lucent Baby you're not up here too much, but don't mind KRA, he's from the far reaches of easter Europe. ;)
Don't take anything he says too seriously, or get defensive against him, he's got a big mouth. And an obsession with the return key for that matter.

yeah we have big mouths and even biger ears like chopin had. lol
where is my precious return key... ohhh here you are :)

[VG Aficionado]

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[Sephiroth_VII]

We need more celshaded games on PS3!

[Lucent Beam]

Aww, at least Crescendo and Serenade are really cute. Seems maybe like Serenade is more like Polka than Claves with an all-heal and then a ranged (?magic) attack.
I wonder how fast their attacks are. It would be cool if Crescendo ran faster than Jazz, because Jazz is so freaking slow. Also, I wonder if Crescendo's Guard's will be more effective since he has a shield.

[LiquidEagle]

Aww, at least Crescendo and Serenade are really cute. Seems maybe like Serenade is more like Polka than Claves with an all-heal and then a ranged (?magic) attack.
I wonder how fast their attacks are. It would be cool if Crescendo ran faster than Jazz, because Jazz is so freaking slow. Also, I wonder if Crescendo's Guard's will be more effective since he has a shield.

:laugh: just from reading this, Eternal Sonata sounds really complex in weird ways (running speed :-p)

Anyhoo, I'll check it out when it comes out...

Also, /agreed with Seph!

[Lucent Beam]

Yeah, it is pretty complex, I guess.
For every character, beyond their attack power / magic power / HP / defense / "speed" (which controls the order of battle), etc stats, you also have to consider:
1: How fast they can run
2: How quickly they attack (how quickly they can build up Echoes)
3: If they have ranged / melee special attacks mapped to your special slots so you know who is best to activate a Harmony Chain with, AND, if these moves are mapped to light or dark spots

But.... actually the game is very easy. It keeps building and building so you never feel confused or overwhelmed. Really, it's awesome.

[Bsack]

I concur with Lucent. I'm playing this game on the 360 and I must say it's rather easy to progress through the game, but the story and battle system is what makes me keep coming back to it. I haven't played in a few days, but that's because of a few personal issues. Game is overal great though.

[Lucent Beam]

The story ultimately did not keep me coming back, but hopefully it doesn't disappoint you like it did me.

[LiquidEagle]

:lol: now I'm sure he'll be waiting for the "disappointing part" :-p

This game looked pretty cool, I'll give it a look-see when it comes out on PS3...

[FantasyGhost]

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[Lucent Beam]

And there are screens of the costume changes here:

http://www.famitsu.com/game/coming/1212449_1407.html

....BOOOO SO UNFAIR. Stupid 360 version.

[LaLiLuLeLo]

Ha ha.

[yoshaw]

Agree with Lucent. Eternal Sonata is a good n fun game to play.

[Xerxes]

How long does the game last? If it is at least 30-40 hours I am picking it up for PS3.

[Sephiroth_VII]

My only jRPG is Folklore, so this is a must-buy :)

[woundingchaney]

Eternal Sonata is a decent title, its largest focal point is the beautiful visuals much more so than the broken story or a battle system that I find to be shallow and entirely too easy.

I would suggest a rental unless someone needs to fill a jrpg void.

[Syncere Styles]

When does it come out?

[woundingchaney]

How long does the game last? If it is at least 30-40 hours I am picking it up for PS3.

Took me somewhere in the 20-25 hour range.

Extremely linear title with little to no "exploring" potential.

[cliffbo]

Took me somewhere in the 20-25 hour range.

Extremely linear title with little to no "exploring" potential.

20-25 hours for an RPG... damn, they jou made me wait til the bargain bin

[LaLiLuLeLo]

GAMES ARE GETTING SHORTER. How many people still fail to understand this?!?!

[cliffbo]

GAMES ARE GETTING SHORTER. How many people still fail to understand this?!?!

why does it take 'understanding' to realize games are getting shorter? shorter games will stop me buying them, not make me accept shorter games.

[LaLiLuLeLo]

Well not supporting games because they're short and not because they're actually bad means they can't afford to make games any longer. So that mentality is backwards. If they can't afford to make a 50 hour RPG not supporting a game that is 'short' but otherwise good (presumably, can't speak to it since I haven't played this one yet) doesn't mean the next game they make will be longer. It more likely means there won't be a next game. Games take as long if not longer to make than they always have and cost more because we all demand the quality of visuals that we do. And if their game looks crumby, you're probably not gonna give it the time of day. Knowing this, they have to sacrifice length and content to some extent in order to give you eye candy. Why am I even going over this? Everyone friggin knows that.


"Oh well we didn't even break even on this one, we're 10 million dollars in debt, so uh, let's make the next game twice as robust as the first one with all these pretend dollars we've got stashed away!"

Your mentality is one of the few contributing to stagnant game design and the difficulty of small(er) publishers and designers from growing and being successful. Meh, the game doesn't fill criteria of x, y, and z on my check list so I'm not going to bother.

[Diresu]

why does it take 'understanding' to realize games are getting shorter? shorter games will stop me buying them, not make me accept shorter games.

Amen. I can understand it for most genres but not RPG's.

[woundingchaney]

Some of the best games I have played this generation are shorter than what I am accustomed to for their genre (regardless of console they are released on). I think it is simply a reality of cost of development and an emphasis on the concept of "tech over content".

I agree that 20-25 hours is on the short side for an rpg, though if those hours are full of quality content with an empowering storyline then its a non-issue for me. Sadly this is not the case for Eternal Sonata (imo).

[cliffbo]

Well not supporting games because they're short and not because they're actually bad means they can't afford to make games any longer. So that mentality is backwards. If they can't afford to make a 50 hour RPG not supporting a game that is 'short' but otherwise good (presumably, can't speak to it since I haven't played this one yet) doesn't mean the next game they make will be longer. It more likely means there won't be a next game. Games take as long if not longer to make than they always have and cost more because we all demand the quality of visuals that we do. And if their game looks crumby, you're probably not gonna give it the time of day. Knowing this, they have to sacrifice length and content to some extent in order to give you eye candy. Why am I even going over this? Everyone friggin knows that.


"Oh well we didn't even break even on this one, we're 10 million dollars in debt, so uh, let's make the next game twice as robust as the first one with all these pretend dollars we've got stashed away!"

Your mentality is one of the few contributing to stagnant game design and the difficulty of small(er) publishers and designers from growing and being successful. Meh, the game doesn't fill criteria of x, y, and z on my check list so I'm not going to bother.

wait a minute! so what where the complaints about HS? can you guess? so you think the devs aren't going to take note of that and make the game longer? the more we accept it the more likely it will continue, the more we complain and the more it cuts into sales the more likely games will be longer. why is it that RAC was the same length as the older games? if they can do then so can other devs... i may i point out that i'm a consumer and no matter how anyone puts it... I want value for money, so i won't buy them. when it comes to RPGs i expect to invest a good 50 hours plus. i want to be absorbed by the world and know i'm going to be in that world for a very very long time. i have other criteria for other genres. i expect 15 to 20 hours for a RE title for instance. would you accept going to see a blockbuster special effect movie that ran for half an hour? what would you say to those that were complaining when they were coming out of the cinema? 'well it costs millions to make, what do you expect?' Lord of the rings was over 9 hours. games are no different, even if they are created in a different way, peoples expectations are ingrained and will not change

[LaLiLuLeLo]

Way to compleeeetely miss my point.

HS ended exactly when it needed to. That's my story and I'm sticking to it.
But if the game does poorly, explain to me then, how they get the money to improve and expand upon that in the sequel? If a good game does poorly then we probably won't see any more of it, is the point I'm making. If they can afford to make a sequel, if the game does reasonably well, then they can address the critiques raised against the first attempt, ideally.

And your half-hour movie argument is vacuous at best because it just wouldn't happen. But you do pay the same price for a movie that's 1 hour long (Phonebooth) and a movie that's 3 hours long (LoTR, King Kong). But a movie doesn't get slammed for not being at least 2 hours, it gets slammed for being a bad movie. What difference does it make if a game is 8, 10, 15, or 20 or 25 hours long if it's some of the most memorable few hours you've had playing a game? Are you playing games for time consumption or for the experiences? And the better games are always worth playing through a 2nd time anyway. And the 'if this developer can do it then so can others' argument is really shallow, baseless, and ignorant and you know it. There's nothing to support that aside from brash idealism and naivety. By that reasoning every game should be a great timeless classic.

It doesn't matter to me if I can beat a game in 3 weeks or 3 days or 3 hours if it provides me with a high quality, engaging, exciting and moving experience. Again, not that Eternal Sonata is this amazing masterpiece of gaming that qualifies to this way of thinking, it might just be average or pretty good. But the 'meh it's not long enough' argument really chaps my ass.

My point is, in a lot of cases for games, the rising cost of development is shortening games out of necessity, and you'll probably miss out on a lot of otherwise killer games just because 'they weren't long enough.'
:tardbang:

How many people up here consider Uncharted the best PS3 game out right now if not one of them? You can beat that game in 10 hours, maybe less. Doesn't stop people from lovin' it, doesn't stop it from being great.

[jaxmkii]

one month after ps3 release, its going to be put on xbl as downloadable content. $$$$

pay for online pay for content pay for replacement pay pay pay is the M$ way .

[cliffbo]

This looks like a must have to me...


it's worth taking a look at the 360 review first:

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/24972.html

... and here is some PS3 gameplay footage:

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/36590.html

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/36588.html

... and story footage:

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/37078.html

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/37076.html

Eternal Sonata PS3 exclusive content detailed; new images

PlayFrance:

"This version of the Playstation 3 will offer exclusive content, with two new playable characters (Crescendo and Seranade), additional quests, new purpose and a system of customisation for costumes heroes."


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more pics here:

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[Gegenki]

damn, I plan to get this -
I will get good at japanese to play this

[cliffbo]

damn, I plan to get this -
I will get good at japanese to play this

you do know it's got an American release date and European will probably follow after

Eternal Sonata PS3 finally gets US release date

July 15th, 2008 @ 22:06

RPGamer is reporting that tri-Crescendo’s rather superb JRPG, Eternal Sonata is set for release for PlayStation 3 in the US this “fall”.

Videogaming247 was told just over a month ago, and to much upset, that the game would only be released in Japan.

Well, it seems Namco Bandai heard your cries.

By Mike Bowden

http://www.videogaming247.com/2008/07/15/eternal-sonata-ps3-finally-gets-us-release-date/

[Gegenki]

oh... well... damn.
Gona get it either way.
That said japanese would be more fun

[Bsack]

Very good game and the battles system was a lot of fun. I played through this on my 360 and it definitely was a great game. Although the story was a bit funky and it really threw me for a loop at the very end, especially when you fight the final boss. Good game and worth the time to finish.

Allegretto owns so never take him out of your lineup!!!

[cliffbo]

removed to save my embarrassment

[JasonXe]

^^ How does she keep that hat/bandana on??

[LaLiLuLeLo]

^^ How does she keep that hat/bandana on??

With fiction.

And, cliffbo, why did you even post that in the Eternal Sonata thread?

[Jay Gee]

Guess he's trying to say the jRPGs are on the way or something.

[cliffbo]

With fiction.

And, cliffbo, why did you even post that in the Eternal Sonata thread?

Guess he's trying to say the jRPGs are on the way or something.

no, i posted it in the wrong thread :lol:

[LaLiLuLeLo]

Again, I stand by my glasses remark.

[OmniCloud]

hopefully the other titles that exclusive to X360 makes its way to PS3 later like this one. I'm really confused why a western dominated platform gets an exclusive Japanese RPG?

[VG Aficionado]

What's more appalling is that there's got yet to be a JRPG heavy hitter (most if not all of them have bombed) on 360 despite all the overhyped exclusives, and that while developers claim they're platform neutral now, they just won't release them on the PS3 where they have the chance to actually sell in Japan. The JRPG genre is not in its gold era anymore.

[OmniCloud]

What's more appalling is that there's got yet to be a JRPG heavy hitter (most if not all of them have bombed) on 360 despite all the overhyped exclusives, and that while developers claim they're platform neutral now, they just won't release them on the PS3 where they have the chance to actually sell in Japan. The JRPG genre is not in its gold era anymore.Thank you! It's freakin stupid man. This title "Infinite Discovery", doesn't even look like anything spectacular. but still, it's an RPG. It the story is decent, the combat is fun, I'm buying it! You can't honestly tell me not there's more people like me who went out a bought a PS3:huh:

This is getting a little annoying already. And where is White Knight Story?

[Jay Gee]

And where is White Knight Story?
And where is White Knight Story?And where is White Knight Story?And where is White Knight Story?And where is White Knight Story?And where is White Knight Story?And where is White Knight Story?And where is White Knight Story?
Seriously. I've never seen L-5 so tight lipped about an upcoming RPG title from them. I hope they haven't run into any budget issues. The only thing I can guess is that they may be doing an overhaul of the character designs. I wasn't exactly a big fan of the main character's look.

[Applefiend]

hopefully the other titles that exclusive to X360 makes its way to PS3 later like this one. I'm really confused why a western dominated platform gets an exclusive Japanese RPG?

Money. Big sacks of money left on people's doorsteps.

[cliffbo]

Seriously. I've never seen L-5 so tight lipped about an upcoming RPG title from them. I hope they haven't run into any budget issues. The only thing I can guess is that they may be doing an overhaul of the character designs. I wasn't exactly a big fan of the main character's look.

one thing that gets overlooked a lot i feel is that games don't just take longer to create, but in taking that long to create, the developer will want a longer payback time... so when WKS hits, i expect it to have many years of life in it, not just the hours it takes to complete.

[Jay Gee]

I understand that the development life cycle for games is growing due to the new hardware, but I've never seen L-5 display a game and then fall off the face of the earth. Once a L-5 game is announced, we usually get sketches, artwork, then later on gameplay videos until it releases. I'm just wondering what's going on with the game. It's been far too long without any information given about it. I'm putting all of my eggs in one basket for TGS. If it doesn't show up there, I can only assume the worst has happened and that my precious WKS is going the way of Coded Arms Assault. ;_;

[OmniCloud]

I understand that the development life cycle for games is growing due to the new hardware, but I've never seen L-5 display a game and then fall off the face of the earth. Once a L-5 game is announced, we usually get sketches, artwork, then later on gameplay videos until it releases. I'm just wondering what's going on with the game. It's been far too long without any information given about it. I'm putting all of my eggs in one basket for TGS. If it doesn't show up there, I can only assume the worst has happened and that my precious WKS is going the way of Coded Arms Assault. ;_;It was supposed to be published by Sony--which usually means the quality is top notch...

If we don't see it in September....:shrug: bye bye great Jrpg until FF13 I guess:wave:

but there's still Valkyrie C, Eternal S, Disgaea, and hopefully Infinite Undiscovery makes it way to PS3 next year as well as SO4--assuming its any good.

[cliffbo]

but there's still Valkyrie C, Eternal S, Disgaea, and hopefully Infinite Undiscovery makes it way to PS3 next year as well as SO4--assuming its any good.

Disgaea is smack for the RPG generation... buy it, steal it, but whatever you do eat now and then

[Diresu]

Disgaea is smack for the RPG generation... buy it, steal it, but whatever you do eat now and then

I still didn't finish Disgaea 1...or started 2....and now 3 is coming out.

[blackdrgn]

on that small topic, I preferred phantom brave, hopefully disgaea will impress me this time.

- bd

[Syncere Styles]

Way to compleeeetely miss my point.

HS ended exactly when it needed to. That's my story and I'm sticking to it.
But if the game does poorly, explain to me then, how they get the money to improve and expand upon that in the sequel? If a good game does poorly then we probably won't see any more of it, is the point I'm making. If they can afford to make a sequel, if the game does reasonably well, then they can address the critiques raised against the first attempt, ideally.

And your half-hour movie argument is vacuous at best because it just wouldn't happen. But you do pay the same price for a movie that's 1 hour long (Phonebooth) and a movie that's 3 hours long (LoTR, King Kong). But a movie doesn't get slammed for not being at least 2 hours, it gets slammed for being a bad movie. What difference does it make if a game is 8, 10, 15, or 20 or 25 hours long if it's some of the most memorable few hours you've had playing a game? Are you playing games for time consumption or for the experiences? And the better games are always worth playing through a 2nd time anyway. And the 'if this developer can do it then so can others' argument is really shallow, baseless, and ignorant and you know it. There's nothing to support that aside from brash idealism and naivety. By that reasoning every game should be a great timeless classic.

It doesn't matter to me if I can beat a game in 3 weeks or 3 days or 3 hours if it provides me with a high quality, engaging, exciting and moving experience. Again, not that Eternal Sonata is this amazing masterpiece of gaming that qualifies to this way of thinking, it might just be average or pretty good. But the 'meh it's not long enough' argument really chaps my ass.

My point is, in a lot of cases for games, the rising cost of development is shortening games out of necessity, and you'll probably miss out on a lot of otherwise killer games just because 'they weren't long enough.'
:tardbang:

How many people up here consider Uncharted the best PS3 game out right now if not one of them? You can beat that game in 10 hours, maybe less. Doesn't stop people from lovin' it, doesn't stop it from being great.

I know I'm late, but this rebuttal is full of WIN.

And to add my 2 pennies to it, why do most gamers these days require every game to have epic amounts of hours into them when most of the greatest games of each and every previous generation were beatable within less than a double-digit amount of hours of time. For example. God of War 1-2 were beatable within 8-10 hours. Shadow of the Colossus, considerably less time if you could easily find and beat the bosses. Resident Evil 1-3 were all maybe 8 hours game the 1st time thru, 5-6 with strategy guides and could all be beaten well within 3 hours of time. Matter of fact, the 1st two games had incentives for beating the game under that time frame. Metal Gear Solid 1 could be beaten in 3 hours. Super Metriod for the SNES was one of the greatest games of it's time, yet it was encouraged to be beaten in less than 3 hours so you can get the Samus unequipped ending. Practically all of the Super Mario Bros and Sonic games could be beaten in 2-3 hours TOPS if you played straight thru them and didn't suck. As could Contra, Mega Man, Castlevania, TMNA, Streets of Rage, Final Fight, Double Dragon and so many other countless classicks And you know what, the time frame to beat the game didn't ruin the experience any. And as for that money's worth argument, despite the recent 10 dollars extra for new titles this gen, more classick games during the SNES era of gaming was costing you quite a bit more per big/new releases on the cartridges and outside of the standard RPG (to which I understand that 20-25 hours isn't quite the standard length, but if it still delivers where it REALLy counts for an RPG, then what does it matter?), they were even smaller than games we play today with obviously lesser graphics, lacking online play, DLC, customization options, etc.

Actually, a shorter game these days are grea tif you're an older gamer from way back in those times that is all grown now and probably has much less time to play due to life's responsibilities and such. Not to mention that shorter games kinda encourages replay more as you can easily go thru it quickly, so that you're not wasting too much time on an old game when there's a vast amount of new titles dropping all the time. Hell, this very summer has had more quality titles drop than probably a decade of summers throughout the previous generations cuz the summer time is usually the slow period for games, just like it is for tv due to re-runs.

Some of ya'll would be gamers of today just really don't know how to see things in perspective. [/rant]

Anywayz, I'll give this title a play-through for sure cuz I haven't played an RPG since Folklore and Odin Sphere.

[Rockmond]

hopefully the other titles that exclusive to X360 makes its way to PS3 later like this one. I'm really confused why a western dominated platform gets an exclusive Japanese RPG?

That's what I don't get either.

I mean...Chances are the bulk of the sales of the average JRPG are gonna come gonna come from japan.From a BUSINESS standpoint wouldn't make more sense to release this type of game on a system that has a stronger standing in the east?

How many jrpgs have to bomb on x360 before publishers get the damn message?

[JasonXe]

^^ I just pointed why in the kings of rpg thread.

Off topic: K.M I just noticed your avatar is the father from Baki the grappler series.

[Diresu]

^^ I just pointed why in the kings of rpg thread.

Off topic: K.M I just noticed your avatar is the father from Baki the grappler series.

Baki = Win

[Syncere Styles]

^^ I just pointed why in the kings of rpg thread.

Off topic: K.M I just noticed your avatar is the father from Baki the grappler series.

Yes, it is Yujiro Hanma, so you could have only been referring to me. So who or what does K.M. supposed to be?

[JasonXe]

i think i need glasses, thought you were kllling moon somehow. Is there a manga for baki b/c the anime left it unfinish or atleast to me.

[Syncere Styles]

i think i need glasses, thought you were kllling moon somehow. Is there a manga for baki b/c the anime left it unfinish or atleast to me.

Yes, there's a manga for Baki, like practically every japanimation.

[JasonXe]

is it complete?

[VG Aficionado]

Demo in the US store!

[Applefiend]

First non mediocre PS3 jRPG folks!

[GTAce]

Jesus, i still have to play the LBP Beta, WipEout HD, Burnout, HL² Epi 1 & 2 (rented from a friend) and and and and i dont even have the time for friggin demos anymore.

[masteratt]

I don't know if its because uni started but i too have been a bit overwhelmed with games and even demos!! lol, crazy gaming times

oh and about the demo- dloading now...

[GTAce]

Well you at least have the uni, i dont go to the school, im not a student, i dont have real work..... wtf?

[Applefiend]

Just ran out of space on my 320GB PS3 HDD, packed to the gills with tons of DIVX movies, 70 demos, 25 PS1 games, 37 PSN titles and 4 issues of Qore. Wow. Having to have a giant clearout or I can't install the new demos.

Wow...

[GTAce]

Well.... the 70 demos arent really necessary i think. lol
Btw check your game data, you couldve some big installs that you dont need anymore.

[Applefiend]

I plugged in an external 320GB drive and I'm going to copy all the movies to it. Whoever dies with the most movies, demos and games wins. :)

Weeee! At some point I will upgrade to a 750GB internal HDD though, when they become available.

[Segitz]

I too am hitting the 60GB barrier now (not many demos, only PSN games and installs plus Linux)...

Will be upgrading soon (sorry, I am drunk, tomorrow is a bank holiday :D)

[frosty]

drink one for me!

[PSXBatou]

I too am hitting the 60GB barrier now (not many demos, only PSN games and installs plus Linux)...

Will be upgrading soon (sorry, I am drunk, tomorrow is a bank holiday :D)

I'm over 100GB with about 36 games, 22 PSN games, and a couple demos. I have a 320GB HD installed on my PS3.

[Z]

(sorry, I am drunk, tomorrow is a bank holiday :D)

when you get too drunk, you'll be approached by a shady looking gal going by the name 'Tena'. don't sleep with her. she isn't really a girl. don't ask me how I know.
http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa188/shmookins/emos/speechless.gif

[Segitz]

when you get too drunk, you'll be approached by a shady looking gal going by the name 'Tena'. don't sleep with her. she isn't really a girl. don't ask me how I know.
http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa188/shmookins/emos/speechless.gif

WTF???

I have no idea what you are talking about^^

[bilbobob007]

WTF???

I have no idea what you are talking about^^

No but you will after your drunk!!!!!!!!

[masteratt]

Enjoyed the demo.

[VG Aficionado]

This thread is about replacing HDDs, getting drunk and sleeping with ladyboys, so STFU :norris:

I also want to get a new HDD. I'm looking for the newest Seagate ones that run at 7200 RPM, have 16 MB of cache and perpendicular writing, but even though I saw it for cheap I couldn't buy it in Spain. Any ideas to get one from somewhere in Europe?

...

So, any impressions from the demo? I'm downloading it right now.

[OmniCloud]

I don't know if I really wanna play a demo of an RPG? It's like..."er...where's the rest:huh:"

Day one purchase when it hit PS3 though.

[yoshaw]

This thread is about replacing HDDs, getting drunk and sleeping with ladyboys, so STFU :norris:

LMAO :laugh:

[Segitz]

This thread is about replacing HDDs, getting drunk and sleeping with ladyboys, so STFU :norris:

I also want to get a new HDD. I'm looking for the newest Seagate ones that run at 7200 RPM, have 16 MB of cache and perpendicular writing, but even though I saw it for cheap I couldn't buy it in Spain. Any ideas to get one from somewhere in Europe?

...

So, any impressions from the demo? I'm downloading it right now.

http://geizhals.at/deutschland/?cat=hd2s7;asuch=seagate;v=e;sort=artikel&xf=7_16~160_7200

Pick your store that sends to Spain...

Alternate sends Europewide... (http://www.alternate.de/html/product/details.html?artno=AABSH1)

If there are questions, just ask^^

[gibmonster]

This thread is about replacing HDDs, getting drunk and sleeping with ladyboys, so STFU :norris:

I also want to get a new HDD. I'm looking for the newest Seagate ones that run at 7200 RPM, have 16 MB of cache and perpendicular writing, but even though I saw it for cheap I couldn't buy it in Spain. Any ideas to get one from somewhere in Europe?

...

So, any impressions from the demo? I'm downloading it right now.

aren't you worried about heat with the 7200 rpm drive? or is it not an issue? i'd like to upgrade my drive too.

[Z]

http://www.tigerdirect.com/
that is a great online store that ships for cheap to almost anywhere in the world. also, check their vieo reviews about anything, they are hilarious! they have their own channel on youtube. lol

for those living in Canada or China, newegg.com just opened two new online stores for those two countries! go Canada!

[Segitz]

aren't you worried about heat with the 7200 rpm drive? or is it not an issue? i'd like to upgrade my drive too.

I doubt there'd be a problem with heat issues... The difference between a 5400 and 7200 RPM drive heatwise are maybe 2 Watts, which in the end makes the PS3, if at all, 1°C warmer... But I give no guarantees :D

[VG Aficionado]

http://geizhals.at/deutschland/?cat=hd2s7;asuch=seagate;v=e;sort=artikel&xf=7_16~160_7200

Pick your store that sends to Spain...

Alternate sends Europewide... (http://www.alternate.de/html/product/details.html?artno=AABSH1)

If there are questions, just ask^^

I've bought a number of things from Alternate Spain but their HDD selection kinda sucks. But that's exactly the drive I'm looking for, so I guess I have to import it.

The heat shouldn't be an issue taking PS3's cooling system into account, let alone since winter is coming. I'd be more worried about the noise, but it's hardly an issue as well.

I've got yet to play the demo :-|

[LaLiLuLeLo]

I don't know if I really wanna play a demo of an RPG? It's like..."er...where's the rest:huh:"

Day one purchase when it hit PS3 though.

Eh, to get an idea of how to combat is, because that's what you're gonna be doing 85% of the time. But you definitely know it's a JRPG because all the characters aren't a day over 13, and the first item you get is a peach cookie.:spit:

[cliffbo]

Just ran out of space on my 320GB PS3 HDD, packed to the gills with tons of DIVX movies, 70 demos, 25 PS1 games, 37 PSN titles and 4 issues of Qore. Wow. Having to have a giant clearout or I can't install the new demos.

Wow...

delete the PSN games... they are always there to download again :)

[VG Aficionado]

Why would he delete the games he bought when he can delete the demos he doesn't play anymore?

[cliffbo]

Why would he delete the games he bought when he can delete the demos he doesn't play anymore?

that as well :)

on the subject of deleting: can you multiple delete. i recently deleted loads of game saves and found it annoying that i had to do each one separately. if it's there and i missed it please help, if it isn't, Sony put it in a firmware update

[gibmonster]

that as well :)

on the subject of deleting: can you multiple delete. i recently deleted loads of game saves and found it annoying that i had to do each one separately. if it's there and i missed it please help, if it isn't, Sony put it in a firmware update

I don't remember, but I think it's there. You just have to hit triangle in order to see the option.

[cliffbo]

Eternal Sonata confirmed for Europe in February 2009

Posted Oct 6th 2008 2:00PM by Alan Tsang
Filed under: News

Looks like Eternal Sonata is finally headed Europe's way this upcoming February, one year and four months after the release of the Xbox 360 version of the title. No exact date was announced, but we'll let you know as soon as that information becomes available.

Namco Bandai promises more than just a straight port of the game: players who are willing give this title a chance will be treated to exclusive quests, multiple endings, new playable characters Crescendo and Serenade, new costumes and additional tunes from famed Polish composer Frederic Chopin. Still on the fence about this JRPG? Check out our hands-on impressions with the demo here. Are these new extras enticing enough for you to purchase a port of a game that's more than a year old?

http://www.gametab.com/news/2756431/