the perfict PS3 gaming tv...

[jaxmkii]

http://www.sonystyle.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10551&storeId=10151&langId=-1&productId=8198552921665119631

1080p
super white
deep color
HDMI v1.3
120fps mode

this XBR even has a mode for use with the PS3

im going in to my local tweeters the day before end of the year inventory to see if the manager will cut me a deal.

[GTShotoKen]

I've been looking at that tv for quite sometime. My uncle actually has one and it's beautiful. Standard-def stuff upscales very cleanly too.

By the way....you spelled "perfect" wrong. :lol:

[jaxmkii]

I've been looking at that tv for quite sometime. My uncle actually has one and it's beautiful. Standard-def stuff upscales very cleanly too.

By the way....you spelled "perfect" wrong. :lol: i havent had to take a english test in 12 years... you kind of stop caring after a while

[jako]

The one I've got is this one and it is perfict :) with the PS3 :

http://www.lcd-compare.com/televiseur-SAMLE40M86BD-SAMSUNG-LE40M86BD.htm

[woundingchaney]

It better damn well be perfect for nearly 3 grand. I can purchase a comparable 65 inch set (outside of khz maybe or maybe not 1.3) for half of the price.

[Zer0-Sum]

It better damn well be perfect for nearly 3 grand. I can purchase a comparable 65 inch set (outside of khz maybe or maybe not 1.3) for half of the price.

What TV is that wounding? What brand? Where do I get this HDTV? :)

[woundingchaney]

What TV is that wounding? What brand? Where do I get this HDTV? :)

My local CC was recently offering a 1080p Toshiba 65" DLP for approx. 1400 usd., Im not sure the model number but it is this years version. It may or may not be online.

Cant remember the exact specs but it had an impressive contrast level and Toshiba is known for its scaling and motion hardware.

Im sure that the Sony has some better features but 2800 usd is a very high price.

[Pluto]

That's the television [the one on the Sony Style site] that I use with my Playstation 3..

I cant compare it to any other HD television I've had [because it's my first] but it does have great quality for playing in 1080p, but I've noticed that the quality varies when watching television [which is probably unrelated to the television itself].

[Zer0-Sum]

My local CC was recently offering a 1080p Toshiba 65" DLP for approx. 1400 usd., Im not sure the model number but it is this years version. It may or may not be online.

WOW, that is a sick deal. I wonder if best Buy will have awesome deals like that after Christmas. Gots tah get an HDTV.

[³¹¹]

I wonder if best Buy will have awesome deals like that after Christmas.

Price match it and get some monies off.

[Zer0-Sum]

Price match it and get some monies off.

Hells yah bro. I'll just print up a cheaper deal from like Newegg or something and gets the DEAL.

[DLX]

The brand doesn't matter as much, the two things you want to worry about above ALL things are two distinct aspects of the TV's specifications.

A) Input Delay
B) Pixel Response Time

Input Delay is the single most important thing you want to find out about your TV. This will NEVER be listed in the TV's specifications. It is the direct amount of lag that exists between the controller input and the actions taking place onscreen. If the lag is bad it can make a wide variety of games unplayable, but the key is even if it's only average, you could still be at a serious disadvantage if your playing online or even playing mildly competitive. Since it's never listed in the specifications, take your friend and your favorite fastpaced multiplayer game (the best ones to test are shooters and fighters) and test your console on the TV your looking, if you are missing things you normally execute in a regular match and you can feel the lag it's best to leave it alone and look at a different TV, and obviously if the TV has HORRIBLE lag than you shouldn't even bother. Don't ever let the retailer convince you that Input delay is the same as Pixel Response time, because he would be full of shit.

Pixel Response Time is not as important, but still the second thing you want to check out, and still worth mentioning because retailers love to take advantage of customers. Basically youll definately want to look into this, this DOES contribute to lag, but no where near as much as the TV's actual Input Delay. So with that said, if you have a TV with an 8ms response time or lower that would be fine as long as the TV has a great Input Delay. However an 8ms Response time would still produce ghosting on fast moving images that I personally find distracting for some games, despite the fact that it's input delay might be incredibly accurate. If this bothers you as well, the best reccomendation I have is to try out Any Sonic game (Xbox 360 has the sonic games for download in it's arcade section) and see if enemies blur out excessively as your running and jumping past them. If you run or jump past enemies at an average speed and you see them very blurry as your moving, than you have some ghosting issues you might find annoying to deal with as a gamer. If you find it negligeble than it's no big deal. If you want less discernable ghosting, look for a TV with a 4~6ms Pixel Response time.

So basically, you can go out and get a much less expensive TV than this and still come away happy as gamer as long as you check for the two things above. No need to spend almost 3 grand on that, although if you do have the money than you could but it would still be overkill since the difference in picture quality is nowhere near worth the extra money. Also just because it's a Sony doesn't mean it has the best Input delay, I tried out a Sony 2007 model and had significant Input delay. So the biggest thing is making sure you thoroughly test your desired TV before you buy it.

PS: Just to throw this out there as well: For people looking for a TV for their gaming this christmas, MAKE SURE you do not let the retailer convince you about buying an expensive HDMI cable. It's a proven fact that any HDMI cable is as good as the next. There is NO difference in actual picture quality between a 160$ HDMI cable and a 6$ HDMI cable, again...proven fact. When shopping for an HDMI cable you should aim to get the cheapest one you can possibly buy. If any employee tries to sell you a 160$ HDMI cable slap him in the face for being a bastard. HDMI cables are currently one of the biggest scams there is.

[DLX]

That's the television [the one on the Sony Style site] that I use with my Playstation 3..

I cant compare it to any other HD television I've had [because it's my first] but it does have great quality for playing in 1080p, but I've noticed that the quality varies when watching television [which is probably unrelated to the television itself].

Yes that's correct, it's unrelated to the TV most likely. Cable is very inconsistent with producing top quality HD programming. There could be problems with the signal or the cable box that results in reduced picture quality on HD channels, not to mention it has to downscale for non HD channels. Id call a technician over to check it out, they could try messing with the signal or see about replacing the cable box.

[Zer0-Sum]

I knew about Pixel Response Time because of the fact that I use an LCD monitor for gaming and 3D modeling with Maya. The ASUS LCD widescreen I have now has a 2 ms response time. Very nice.

As for the Input Delay I had no idea. Thanks for the tip DLX. I will keep this in mind when I get an HDTV.

[Smokey]

how come US people are so infactuated with RearPro. ive never seen one that can come close to a Flatpanel yet? (LCD or Plasma)

[woundingchaney]

how come US people are so infactuated with RearPro. ive never seen one that can come close to a Flatpanel yet? (LCD or Plasma)

Well it wasnt until this year that you could find anything in flatpanel at 40"+ and wont be until next year until you can find anything flatpanel 50+ (rough estimates on screensize). And even then they are going to be considerably higher than their RP brothers.

RP LCD wont compare well against flatpanels, but DLPs still maintain quality pictures using RP (imo).

Plasmas offer the best image (imo) and have matured as a tech. but the cost of them is not exactly friendly. I would love to own a Panny plasma.

[Smokey]

you can buy 1080p plasmas & LCDs (thats in the 42+ range) here for about 4grand or less AU which would be in the 3s for youse worth the money i think. my 1080i Hitachi is splendid i should have waited a few months as the 1080ps tumbled in price they were like 7gs when i bought me plasma. but DLP is the best of the RP

[frosty]

Actually, my grandmother bought a RP SXRD 65' 1080p set that easily matches my 42' 1080p LCD in picture quality, even brightness.

[Smokey]

yeah i spose here in AU RP are few & far between its more of a US thing flatpanels have really taken off here in a big way RP never did. if you sat em side by side you might notice a difference.

1080p & i plasmas are the best at mo though (IMO)

[jaxmkii]

My local CC was recently offering a 1080p Toshiba 65" DLP for approx. 1400 usd., Im not sure the model number but it is this years version. It may or may not be online.

Cant remember the exact specs but it had an impressive contrast level and Toshiba is known for its scaling and motion hardware.

Im sure that the Sony has some better features but 2800 usd is a very high price.
ewww... but there color saturation sucks and no 1.3hdmi

[woundingchaney]

ewww... but there color saturation sucks and no 1.3hdmi

Really I own a Toshiba and havent really had a problem with color saturation. If anything I would say that Toshiba sets dont have the best aesthetic value.


Though Sony seems to produce the best "reds" out of the manufacturers.