Socom Confrontation

[Nameless]

^The COD4 beta or final release was nothing like the debacle of the Socom Confrontations beta release... I would imagine the beta will get better over time, but if my memory serves me correctly the COD4 beta was a smoother experience.

I should submit feedback to 6 Slant, but honestly due to all the issues trying the play the beta I have not logged enough time of actual gameplay to provide detailed suggestions IMO. Perhaps once they clean things up I will log some real game time and provide some feedback.

[GTAce]

Well if you cant provide detailed suggestions why can you complain here about the slow gameplay?
I didnt looked, but i bet theres a Beta thread somewhere on an official forum.
Post there and when enough people join your complain it will be fixed.
Just look what they did in the Warhawk beta.
The problem is the community has to speak and tell the devs what they like and what they dont like.

[Nameless]

^I just agreed with another post based on my limited time with the beta.
If they get the damn beta running right and I can actually play some games instead of looking at the fucking loading icon I may have a change of opinion... Overall I'm just pissed off that game is not up to par with other next-gen releases and Sony has blown another opportunity with a popular IP.
Even if the game ran perfectly it still sucks it does not have the polish of a full next-gen release like COD4. Considering the popularity of the Socom series the PSN release was a flawed approach from inception...

[TEEDA]

here are my customized characters.
http://i37.tinypic.com/2hdb61t.jpg
http://i36.tinypic.com/2v9yyap.jpg

I just played 7 games sraight with no major problems excepted the loading screen.

from the EU board:
A tip for decreasing the loading times

Most people have figured this out but many haven't. Avoid 32 player games! they take far too long to join, stick to 8 and 16 only (crossroads normal not large because it takes ten years to find an enemy) and try to enter ones that have just started with only a few players in (others will join after, your loading times will improve). I don't know how significant this is but every time i start the game i go to options, select channel: europe (you have to do it every time you start the game up because it doesn't save it automatically) i'm not sure if it improves anything but it just seems right to have europe selected. Hopefully the loading times issue will disappear in a week if they manage to fix it.

the loading times in the smaller games can vary between 3-15 minutes, or occasionally more. I think it depends on who's in the game and their connection speed.Maybe they use a closed circuit system.

[Smokey]

Thats what i did all the time in CoD4.
Well if you think its too slow, let the devs know.
A public Beta is for community response.

ya COD4 was like that for alot (i mean alot) of people when it first came out

[Ballygowan]

The SOCOM: Confrontation keys are all gone. Congratulations to everyone who got hold of one and sorry if you missed out.

Apologies particularly to those of you who missed out because accessing the website between 4 and 5pm was difficult. SOCOM was a very popular attraction and our amazing super-strong server struggled to deal with your enthusiasm.

I thought it would be useful for Mark Kennedy, Eurogamer's lead technical person or whatever, to explain why the hell we shouldn't sack him on the spot and set fire to him. "Imagine going to the pub, and instead of everybody waiting for the barman to get round to serving them, they just all shout out their orders," Mark told me.

"If they don't get their drink in one second, they just shout the order again and the barman really can't concentrate on what he's doing and everybody gets their drinks slower," he concluded, joblessly. So yes, we're sorry about that.

On the plus side, we're trying to convince Sony to give us some more, so with any luck there will be another chance soon. Have a lovely weekend and enjoy the beta!


Source (http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=230596)

[D3adcell]

ya COD4 was like that for alot (i mean alot) of people when it first came out

I didn't have any problems at all with cod4 beta really, not with loading times taking up to 15 minutes, I don't even remember them taking long at all.

[Jay Gee]

Got into some 4 on 4 last night like somebody suggested with a bunch of people from ATL, and the game was great. Framerate was still a bit low, but kills came alot easier. Now I just need to adjust my movement sensitivity and tweak my weapons, and I'll be all set. Then hopefully by the end of the week, they'll have the stability/latency issues all worked out.

[GTAce]

I LOVE it cant wait to play more. 8)

[TEEDA]

damn...

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/usermovies/263214.html

the 32 players version of croassroad is damn big.... There are parts I' ve never been in that vid. well because of the lagg there are only 16 players map). BUt I don 't wan t to play cat & mouse with the last ennemy in a map of 50 ² km like in socom 3 ^^
hope there wn t be maps that big.

[GTAce]

Crossroads 32 is GREAT designed.
Played it today lagfree with 14 people or so, was a lot fun.

[Lucent Beam]

Does it still have long loading times?

[GTAce]

Define long. :laugh:


Yes it has and its annoying, i had a lot connection and loading issues.
3 times going out of the game with the PS button (2 autorestarts) and 1 time power off on the front button.

But its so rewarding when it runs, its so awesome.
I loved every second of the gameplay, all that i missed in all the years is in this game.
The sound is great too.

[TEEDA]

We will be performing server maintenance and rolling out a new patch on September 9th at 5am PDT, 1200 GMT. The SOCOM: U.S. Navy SEALs Confrontation game servers will be unavailable during the maintenance. The server maintenance is not expected to last longer than 1 1/2 hours.

SOCOM: Confrontation Public Beta 1.10 Patch

* Adds support for European EULAs.
* Adds support for dedicated servers located in Europe and Australia.
* Addresses a number of stability and late joining issues.
* Reduce the volume of the proximity chat by 50%.

The server maintenance and patch are not meant to address all issues. We will have more updates to both the server and client in the future.

Regards,
SOCOM Confrontation Online Team

yes , first patch coming.

[Segitz]

Is there actually any official way for Germans to get into the beta, or are we screwed again?

Well, I don't fret, I'll move to Konstanz in 3 weeks (1km from the Swiss border), so all of those german youth laws can suck my salty chocolate balls!

[GTAce]

Well with the Eurogamer stuff there was no problem i think.
You can also play with your German main account, no problem at all.
I just had to use the code with an AU account, done in 5 minutes. 8)

[TEEDA]

http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m137/kingsofchaos/conLoadSig.gif

[Raitei]

lawl

[GTAce]

:lol:

[Jay Gee]

LOL that's a meme that's gonna stick with Sony until their next console. Too good.

[Nameless]

http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m137/kingsofchaos/conLoadSig.gif

I hate that damn icon... :rant:

[cliffbo]

SOCOM Confrontation beta report: great stuff, when working

By Frank Caron | Published: September 09, 2008 - 12:45PM CT

http://media.arstechnica.com/journals/thumbs.media/ars_socombeta_loading.jpg

Following a one week delay, the beta for SOCOM: Confrontation, the latest iteration of the long-standing PlayStation franchise, is now underway. Press and pre-order patrons have begun to delve into the tight tactical action, while those who purchased the first issue of Qore will be joining the force on Friday. And while the beta has been a bumpy one thus far, the game does play well for the most part... once you can actually get into a match.

Out of the gate, the beta suffered from some pretty brutal connectivity problems, lag, and other "load related issues." My play time has been marred by long waits for entry into matches and some pretty mean bouts of lag and stuttering in-game. Numerous accounts from other outlets have identified a number of problems, for which Sony and Slant Six Games have gone on the record to apologize. "We are doing everything we can to resolve these issues as quickly as possible and you should see some improvements progressively over the next couple of days," reads the entry on the official SOCOM blog. The first of what will likely be many patches has already gone live today.

Of course, it is a beta for a reason. Thankfully, looking past those issues, SOCOM proves to be a solid third-person shooter with some great community features. Warhawk has long been the standard for organized multiplayer on the PlayStation 3, but it appears that the title will quickly be passed to SOCOM when the game launches. Even in beta, a number of key improvements already trump Incognito's excellent title.

For one, voice chat in the beta has been surprisingly excellent. The new official PS3 headsets come with a special high quality mode that SOCOM will take advantage of, but even without them the voice chat is higher quality than any other PS3 titles. Given that the game is so highly tactical and team-oriented, this is good news.

The clan options are also significantly more robust. An integrated clan calendar allows clan leaders to create scheduled events which are pushed out to all members of the clan. These events range from tournaments to clan matches and even open invitationals. Clan leaders can also interact with other clan leaders to set up events for all the clan members involved. Clans themselves can be heavily customized: all clan members have a shared uniform designed when the clan is created, in addition to a clan logo; this distinguishes any and all clan members from "mercenaries and commandos," which are players unaffiliated with any clan.

As for the game play itself, the game plays smoothly when a given room is running well. If you've played SOCOM before, there won't be very many surprises: interface improvements, customization options, and a more fully-featured clan system are the main draws here. Should the beta continue to steadily improve connection-wise, SOCOM: Confrontation should be well worth the $59.99 price tag with the pack-in Bluetooth headset when the game launches October 17.

http://arstechnica.com/journals/thumbs.ars/2008/09/09/socom-confrontation-beta-report-great-stuff-when-working

[GTAce]

The new patch made the loading times better btw.

And Crossroads at night is cool, i like the day version more but its cool designed.

[Jay Gee]

Good news for faster loading times. Hopefully the next patch fixes server stability. Till then, I'm sticking to small games. Isn't that what everybody said SOCOM excelled at anyhow? I'm not keen on 32 players for this title. It seems like 16 is the sweet spot in terms of players on each map.

[GTAce]

Well the loading times are still long but it improved quite a bit. ;)

[OG_Monkey]

You know for those who are in PSI...this would make a great preview

[GTAce]

:huh:

[OmniCloud]

:huh:I think he means the mods who are in the beta--could preview the title and make an editorial for the front page.

Right OG?

[GTAce]

We have mods in the beta?

[Matt]

I would've given a preview if I had got in, and gamesharing doesn't work :(

[Lucent Beam]

Well there isn't much to preview of one map and a beta at that which has a lot of problems.

[GTAce]

Theres enough for a preview and the game runs fine most of the time (rhyme).

[Segitz]

I don't have the beta... so no preview from me :( (but I can live with it, not exactly my type of game)

[Red]

The Soldiers run damn slow. The gameplay is to slow.

[GTAce]

Press R2.

I love that slow pacing, just feels heavier and more realistic.

[Red]

Press R2.

I love that slow pacing, just feels heavier and more realistic.

Very funny i'm not stupid and i know that pressing the R2 Button increases your runing speed.

[OG_Monkey]

I think he means the mods who are in the beta--could preview the title and make an editorial for the front page.

Right OG?

yeah

[OmniCloud]

I haven' t played it myself, but it looked on par with Socom 2--have we forgotten how slow that game was?

Anyway, players are in a better position to judge than me, so tell them to speed it up!

[GTAce]

It is a bit slower, but i like that.
Too much speed=too much rushing.
And the sprint feature is well done, while sprinting you cant shoot and when you sprint too long your character gets exhausted and you cant shoot as precise as without the sprint, especially with the scope.
So snipers cant just run and shoot and run.

[Segitz]

I just received the japanese "you're not in" email :(

[Smokey]

I didn't have any problems at all with cod4 beta really, not with loading times taking up to 15 minutes, I don't even remember them taking long at all.

not in the beta.. but when it actually came out it was shocking for months to get a game if you did it was always red dot all the way. but it has been fixed for donkeys now. it most probably was an AU thing

[GTAce]

A PAL thing i would say because i had the same problems (i also made a rant thread here lol).

[cliffbo]

head set demo:

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/39808.html

[Red]

I#m gonne buy this headset. When it's recharging it looks like the 360 rod.

http://s6.directupload.net/images/080105/tokcpf54.gif

[Moyospeed]

Glad they patched it maybe it'll calm the upset whiners on the socom.com board down.

[TEEDA]

New patch on the way :


Thank you all for participating in the SOCOM Confrontation Public Beta. We know that it has not gone as smoothly as we would all like, but I want to assure you that we are working on the issues. Please remember, the main purpose of the Public Beta was to identify just these types of issues before the game is launched.

We are working on and testing another patch right now. For this patch, the focus is to resolve the following issues:


Abnormally long network synchronization issues when some users in a game have a poor network connection. This issue causes 4-7 minute (or longer) load times when late joining a game.
An issue where respawn game late joiners were sometimes stuck in spectator mode and could not respawn into the game.
Remove the latency detection network test which is causing some users with poor network connections to receive the network latency icon (red X).

We will announce when the new patch will be released once we've verified the fixes and it has passed our QA.

Regards,

SOCOM Confrontation Online Team

[GTAce]

Fixes the most major problems for me, nice.

[TEEDA]

Fixes the most major problems for me, nice.

yup same for me. it s good news, they re doing everything.
coz the red cross and lagg problem, and loading are not cool at all....
I didn t play since last monday.

[Red]

Tried it a few minutes again. Game sucks still ass.

[Nameless]

^The gameplay is not bad, but they do need to fix several aspects of the game for balancing... It would be great if they fix the loading and online lag issue with the beta so we can better evaluate the actual gameplay.

I still doubt the game will be released in October based on the state of the beta build; perhaps I will be proven wrong.

[Matt]

October? No way. If it was gonna be released in October, it would be a finished product by now. I'd take a guess somewhere near Christmas.

[GTAce]

^The gameplay is not bad, but they do need to fix several aspects of the game for balancing... It would be great if they fix the loading and online lag issue with the beta so we can better evaluate the actual gameplay.

I still doubt the game will be released in October based on the state of the beta build; perhaps I will be proven wrong.

80% of the games i played were lagfree and i never had a problem with the balancing...

[Leedogg]

I got my Qore/beta code downloading now....

[Jay Gee]

Man, you can't let this game get over 8 people or it lags to shit SO fast. 3 on 3 and 4 on 4 is the sweet spot until they fix the latency issues.

[GTAce]

You have to be in a game since the beginning too, or it gets unplayable. lol
But then, even 8x8 can be possible.... sometimes.^^

[Jay Gee]

I've been able to jump into a few with the framerate being great. I stepped into one last night that just pissed me off so bad, I popped in COD4 just to remind myself of what a steady locked framerate looks like for an online game.

[jaxmkii]

gunna wait for R2 for my next shooter

[Bsack]

Has anybody else been unable to download the beta through Qore or is it even available yet through Qore? I was told that is should have been available through Qore yesterday Friday September 12th but I'm still unable to download it.

[OG_Monkey]

I got my Qore/beta code downloading now....

wanna share my good ol friend?

[Leedogg]

Has anybody else been unable to download the beta through Qore or is it even available yet through Qore? I was told that is should have been available through Qore yesterday Friday September 12th but I'm still unable to download it.

check your email thats linked to your PSN account. They sent me the code via email. The email says you can't download it via Qore.

check ur PM OG

[Bsack]

^^I did check my email and there was no email with a code. Do i call sony about this?

what's the number to their call center?

**Edit** Nevermind I got the number and I called them. Thanks.

[OG_Monkey]

check your email thats linked to your PSN account. They sent me the code via email. The email says you can't download it via Qore.

check ur PM OG

Thanks but it says:

"The code has already been redeemed the maximum number of times"

I think i get why. Maybe the pre-order keys were the only ones you could share...if not i dunno whats wrong then

[TEEDA]

Patch 1.30 coming with lots of fixing issues :

We are happy to announce that the eagerly anticipated SOCOM: U.S. Navy SEALs Confrontation Public Beta 1.30 Patch will be released on Thursday, September 18th, at 12:00 GMT/UTC (8am EDT, 5am PDT, 1pm BST, 9pm JST/KST).

The SOCOM: Confrontation 1.30 patch addresses the following issues:


Abnormally long network synchronization issues when some users in a game have a poor network connection. This issue causes 4-7 minute (or longer) load times when late joining a game.
Fixed an issue where respawn game late joiners were sometimes stuck in spectator mode and could not respawn into the game.
Removed the latency detection network test which was causing some users with poor network connections to receive the network latency icon (red X).
Fixed an issue where clients with different client versions (patches) could play together in a default medley game.
Fixed an issue where if the session master leaves the game, late joiners could not "green up" and late join into the game.
Fixed corrupt characters in the European and Japanese EULAs and Server News.
Fixed many join game issues and made joining a game quicker. We are still optimizing this.
Fixed an issue where if you add and then remove someone from your block list they were still unable to send you a message.
Improved accuracy while moving (based on user feedback). Partial implementation. More improvements to come.
Reduced the encumbrance penalty (based on user feedback).
Changed the default round time for Medley games from 8 minutes to 6 minutes (based on user feedback).
We are still looking into the following issues and they will be addressed in a future patch:

Some late joiners have really bad framerate (5fps) and crash if they exit the game from the start menu. This happens at approximately 1/50 frequency.
Some late joiners will get stuck on the round complete screen. This is timing dependent.
Some users will crash in-game. This happens at approximately 1/100 frequency (games).
Some late joiners get stuck on the loading screen, loading into a game. This happens at approximately 1/100 frequency.
Green or corrupted particles appear for RPG, C4 and AT4 explosions. This happens at approximately 1/4 frequency (users).
Further tuning and tweaking based on user feedback.
Once the patch is released, we will continue to keep an eye out for any additional issues which may arise.

Regards,
SOCOM: Confrontation Online Team "

So they are indeed listening to the community thats amazing from their part.
GG Slant Six. can' t wait to try it.

[Z]

and keep in mind that those are beta issues.

[Red]

Tryin to update this shit today.

[Jay Gee]

Yus, gonna get this shit NAOW!!!

[Raitei]

cool, anybody up for a few games to test it out?

[Jay Gee]

Works well so far. The whole interface is a lot faster than it was before. Getting into a game took less time, and the lag wasn't there even when I joined late.

[TEEDA]

Yup definitely agree. the game is a total different experience with the new patch. It took me less than a minute to loas a game up to 11 players. No red cross issues, just little lag but not that often.
The menu is not laggy anymore , it s really DAMN PLAYABLE !!

[GTAce]

Have to fire it up tomorrow.
This game will be the online-shooter number O N E!

[Nameless]

Great news, but this shit should have been done since day one IMO...

[GTAce]

Lol do you think they wouldnt have implemented it when they could have?

Jesus especially the connection issues, they programmed the fix, they will patch the BETA with it, everything is fine.

[OmniCloud]

I'm glad it's turning out well...how's the speed issue feel now?

[Nameless]

^It's a lot better especially in smaller rooms; you still have long load times with larger 32 player matches. This is a huge step in the right direction, but there's more work to be done...

[cliffbo]

^It's a lot better especially in smaller rooms; you still have long load times with larger 32 player matches. This is a huge step in the right direction, but there's more work to be done...

keep complaining! that's what the Betas for :)

[Moyospeed]

This goes to show that /6 was serious in the "we are among you" thread on the playstation forums.

[Jay Gee]

Man, what's a good gun for the Mercenaries? I got the AK47, but it's got dick all on a Commando's M16.

[GTAce]

Sturmgewehr (STG) 77 with silencer and ACOG.

Or 552 with the... handle? I dont know the english word. lol

[D3adcell]

Too bad they took out the AKS 74, if everyone remembers that gun from socom 1 it was just a rapefestival in your hands.

[TEEDA]

Too bad they took out the AKS 74, if everyone remembers that gun from socom 1 it was just a rapefestival in your hands.


Yup it was my favorite in Socom 1.

Seal : M4A1
Terrorist AK 74

and in socom II

Seals : M4A1 & AK - 105
terrorist : STG - 77 & AK 74

[Bsack]

This game is great for the whole two days I got to play it. I'm gonna definitely enjoy this title when it finally releases on October 16 or whatever.
Guns I use are....

Seals:
M4A1, Silencer 1, Front Grip

T's:
552, Silencer, Front Grip

[Smokey]

so slow compared to COD4 its not funny :(

and i cannot BELIEVE you have to HOLD a button down to talk still.. i mean WTF?? this is the 21st century (unless there is somewhere i missed to change it?)

[Z]

why can't I find the bluetooth bundle in Aussie online stores? it is coming over here, right?

and i cannot BELIEVE you have to HOLD a button down to talk still.. i mean WTF?? this is the 21st century (unless there is somewhere i missed to change it?)
why would they do that? maybe to eliminate noise or something?

[Segitz]

why can't I find the bluetooth bundle in Aussie online stores? it is coming over here, right?

why would they do that? maybe to eliminate noise or something?

Exactly... because most players somehow can't breath normally... shout stuff when they get shot and whatnot... it is ANNOYING. Then there's people who blast music in the background, which is even MORE annoying, some people talking to other people while playing online etc... there are MANY reasons why voice activation isn't good

[TEEDA]

game is really good graphically speaking
http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m313/italian10x/DSC09261.jpg
http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m313/italian10x/DSC09262.jpg

[Z]

so, for SOCOM vets, how's this one handling the tactics and overall SOCOM tradition? is it good or is it a flop?

[Nameless]

^The gameplay is really starting to grow on me...
I would still like to see the run speed increased and other mechanics tweaked, but I'm kind of hooked to the beta. Considering the unpolished state of the Beta it's a huge statement to say I'm getting into this game.
I will be a day one purchase and just hope they iron out all the network issues and improve some of the gameplay flaws...

[TEEDA]

so, for SOCOM vets, how's this one handling the tactics and overall SOCOM tradition? is it good or is it a flop?

Well in terms of traditional gameplay, it s on par with other socoms, but like Nameless there are few things to fix. And I found some weapons to be really unfairly equal and unbalanced between the seals and the terrorists....
In terms of game in general ; I think 32 players is maybe too much for this kind of game. or maybe for the level presented ( only croassroad ) the large version of croassroad is not that well designed IMO.
But yes , the diversity of games, such as escort, breach are really good, and the switch system between terro and seals every 6 games is good.
BUt it s the weapons that I don 't really like. and the stupid laser lol ennemies ca track you down a miles away with a laser sight.

But i ll purchase it anyway. The video game festival will begin this friday and last till the end of the week end, I ll try the near finished or maybe the finished version of the game , I ll keep you up !

[Bsack]

This game will be good as long as people play only on the "normal sized" maps and not the humongous maps. If people just play like 10v10 maximum wars on the smaller maps then this game will be a huge it. If you guys just use light armor you will be able to run faster and I'm glad the mics aren't open because I hate how some people just spam on the mics. Especially people that just run their mouth and talk shit to others just to get their kicks. This game I'm sure will play beautifully as long as people stick with playing it on the smaller maps and not the expanded maps.

[Z]

why isn't the bluetooth bundle coming to Australia?!

[Smokey]

Exactly... because most players somehow can't breath normally... shout stuff when they get shot and whatnot... it is ANNOYING. Then there's people who blast music in the background, which is even MORE annoying, some people talking to other people while playing online etc... there are MANY reasons why voice activation isn't good

thats why COD4 has MUTE to mute the dickheads. 99% of the time theres 4-10 of me mates on my side side so we talk whats going on. ya press button & like 10 seconds (exaggerated) later ya can talk... pathetic

[Smokey]

game is really good graphically speaking
http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m313/italian10x/DSC09261.jpg
http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m313/italian10x/DSC09262.jpg

still no COD though...... but it is a DL

[OmniCloud]

still no COD though...... but it is a DLyeah, COD4 looks a little better I would say, but COD4 is already out too;) plus, Socom isn't ya know...Call of Duty--what would be the point of mimicking it :huh: gameplay/art style wise.

[Z]

still, the game could look muuuuuuch better, but I don't think it was a Sony priority- or they would've made it a first party game. look at how Wipeout turned out; freakin' amazing!

I think Sony is concentrating on M.A.G. but still, maybe this will be entertaining enough for it's price. though I am worried that it is having some troubles.

[Moyospeed]

Graphics have never been Socom's strongpoint.
I read on a thread about the private beta, that this version is
way behind what the final product wil be.

[Z]

still, given the system and competition, they could have made the graphics much better. graphics may not be the focal point, but they sure as hell make a difference. imagine going back to playing the PS2 one. graphics don't only offer more detail that effects gameplay, it also offers more 'feel' to the game. it makes gamers feel more involved and tense. look at Team Fortress 2 and CoD4 art direction and you can see why each one went with that style. SOCOM follows the latter. and in that regard, you should go all the way with graphics.

this is especially coming from a game that looks like an averageo below average third party TPS.

[Bsack]

It's far from below average TPS, but you're welcome to your opinion. This game will be better than any shooter available and like somebody stated graphics were never the strong point of the socom series.

[Z]

I am talking about graphics alone.

[Moyospeed]

I understand what you're saying even though it may not be their focus, graphics can still be the key to a game.

[Red]

Will the game be delayed? Or is the game stil on track?

[Z]

it has been locked for all three regions except Europe.
check here:
http://www.vgreleases.com/PS3/ReleaseDate-40175.aspx

two weeks left! wooh hoo. :)

[TEEDA]

Frostfire is back ! video inside
http://uk.ps3.gamespy.com/dor/objects/906076/socom-confrontation/videos/SOCOMmFROSTFIRE_092608.html;jsessionid=2dwgw15chca wo

[Jay Gee]

Fill me in on why Frostfire is awesome.

[Segitz]

Got into the Japanese Beta!

[GTAce]

Frostfire is back ! video inside
http://uk.ps3.gamespy.com/dor/objects/906076/socom-confrontation/videos/SOCOMmFROSTFIRE_092608.html;jsessionid=2dwgw15chca wo

=-o=-o=-o=-o=-o

It looks exactly like in SOCOM 2, this is so awesome.

[Z]

Got into the Japanese Beta!

you're probably the only one in. lol

[Segitz]

you're probably the only one in. lol

Well... doesn't matter, I can connect to all servers... but


MAN THIS GAME IS BUGGY AND SLOW... won't test til another patch arrives. It just isn't fun at all.

[OmniCloud]

Fill me in on why Frostfire is awesome.I think it's one of the more popular maps in Socom 2, and it looks nearly identical to the old one just more polished/nextgenish. Which of course fans are excited about;)

I could be wrong tho--that's just what I picked up.

[Nameless]

^You covered it man...
The next popular map would be Desert Glory; I'm sure that's one of the maps at release or on the road map. I would buy an old map pack in a heart beat it would be great to see all the old Socom 2 maps updated to next-gen standards! :drool:

[Nameless]

Attention Beta players version 1.50 is available; I'm downloading now.
This will be the most current version prior to the final release so I'm excited to give it a go.
I will post my thoughts later.

Update:
Unfortunately the new build still has issues that make it damn near unplayable.
The rounds still have problems starting and an annoying popup message keeps occurring even during gameplay. Also, the online sessions still have tons of lag effecting smooth gameplay.
I have to admit the amount of issues experienced during this beta has been troubling and I have been more than patient. I'm starting to wonder if Six Slant is up to the task of creating a fluid online gaming experience. It's naive considering all the issues with the beta, but perhaps the final build and servers will operate properly later this month...

[OmniCloud]

Attention Beta players version 1.50 is available; I'm downloading now.
This will be the most current version prior to the final release so I'm excited to give it a go.
I will post my thoughts later.let us know buddy, I have a Socom 2 friend excited after learning previous iterations are Confrontations' inspiration, plus, I've decided this might be the Socom I actually get into;)

[Bsack]

It will be good and if any of you experienced the other betas, which i'm assuming you haven't, then you would know all the other betas ran slow, laggy, and felt extremely buggy. The final build usually doesn't have all the problems the beta has, so rest assured it will be fine.

[Z]

I certainly hope so. I don't want Slant Six to be out Treyarch...

[Smokey]

did youse also notice when you were on opposite teams the closer ya got ya could hear them talk though your speakers

[Z]

yeah, they did mention how sound is dynamic not only in how it sounds, but even how it is interpeted in your headset or speakers. but I didn't know you can hear the chatter. that is a cool thought. more reality.

[TEEDA]

Yeah , they did integrate the " proximity chat very well "
I remember seing one of my buddies dying in front of me, and behind a wall I could hear the opponent saying " I got that n00b ! " So I sneaked behind him and knifed him..haha that s an awesome add.

[Smokey]

is it meant to work when ya using HS though?

[TEEDA]

3 minutes gameplay from TGS
http://uk.ps3.ign.com/dor/objects/906076/socom-confrontation/videos/socom_mediaday_100908.html

and be sure to check out the US Store, there s a vid of Desert Glory !!!

[cliffbo]

i think this is the right thread:

http://www.gamersyde.com/leech_9017_en.html

[D3adcell]

So i got a call today about my pre-order being in tomorrow, though they said "Game only". I ordered the headset bundle and they better have it tomorrow. Gamestop.com shows it as backordered. I hope it is coming out tomorrow.

[Nameless]

^Gamecrazy is selling it today...
I have the game and the headset; I'm enjoying both.
The headset is really good and has great sound quality.

I just finished the 2.50 update so I will comment on the headset enhancements tomorrow.

[D3adcell]

Nice, I cant wait to hear your impressions. Do i have you on my PSN list?

Everyone that is getting socom should post their PSN in here so I can add them. We should see if we could even get a clan going maybe.

[TEEDA]

Here's an early impression of someone wo also got it :

Back with some impressions - my main goal was just to touch on the older maps so I could really draw some comparisons.

Desert Glory is by far the best 'revision' of the older maps - every game I played ran flawlessly with absolutely no problems with lag, hit detection, frame rate, tearing... and it still managed to really feel like the older version of the map so I felt right at home.

Any of the main technical issues from the beta are gone (at least at this point with 400+ people playing online). No more ridiculous network initialization failures, lobby joining issues, long loads between matches, disconnections, lag, etc. Noticed some slight tearing on occasion in Crossroads, but my experiences elsewhere were completely smooth.

If it manages to maintain or exceed this kind of performance when the servers load up, I don't see anything here that can't be fixed by a few gameplay patches down the road (R1, Warhawk, etc.)

I couldn't get the headset to sync, so impressions on that later, but at least at this point you shouldn't be worried about the game.

[TEEDA]

Sony Blutooth Official Headset impression

Well... got my Playstation 3 Headset for an additional 20 dollars with SOCOM and I have got to say... it was a no brainer once I got back home and got my Playstation 3 Headset up and working. The charging time only took about 2-3 hours to fully charge. Once I had it charged up, I tried it with my cellular phone.

And WOW! What an experience! This headset for sound and microphone quality beats the 100 dollar Bluetooth ones on the market made by Jabra, Nokia, and Motorola. I had the Headset's volume to the max as it was plenty loud for my ears while on a phone conversation. My friend on the other line couldn't hear a sound or whisper of what he was saying into the headset, a major problem with other bluetooth headsets today. Not only that, but it was crystal clear without any crackling or distortion. This shows there is a solid connection and that the speaker is of great quality for how loud it goes.

Now came the test for the microphone portion. I talked back for a minute and my friend could not tell that I was using a Bluetooth headset... it was that crisp, clean, and clear. Not to mention it has a power dock to be used for charging and a desktop microphone! For 20 dollars.. I don't know who could pass this up.

It may not have some of the other fancy buttons that other Bluetooth Headsets have, but it comes with the essentials and the quality surpasses anything I've seen on the market.

9.5/10 - Small deduction lack of LED indicators.

Here is the Manual for it:
http://www.us.playstation.com/Content/Support/Manuals/PS3/pdf/PS3_BTHS_MANL_en.pdf

[woundingchaney]

Ok just bought the game on a whim (and Dead Space also).

So-Com and get some chumps.

[LiquidEagle]

mmm... I might have to get this...

[Cyrus]

Can anyone who has the game check out if it has southpaw controls? The beta didnt, it only had "lefty" controls that changed R1 and L1. I need true southpaw that swaps the sticks so that I get to aim with the left stick and move with the right.

This is crucial information for me because if it doesnt have southpaw, I wont buy the game at all cuz I cant play it properly. I'm as huge a Socom 2 fan as you can find but I just cant play with the default controls so if southpaw isnt included in the final release, I'll have to abandon Socom (as much as it "hurts" to do that)...

[D3adcell]

I will be picking it up tonight or tomorrow morning.

[PSXBatou]

I picked it up today, to be honest it was mainly for the headset though since the price with or without game are so nominally close.

I'll give it a shot later on tonight.

[D3adcell]

I just got it tonight, i'll be playing later tonight.

I need peoples PSN ID's though so I have some people to play online with.

[LaLiLuLeLo]

Ok just bought the game on a whim (and Dead Space also).

So-Com and get some chumps.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v465/thepatriots/facepalm1.jpg

[Z]

I picked it up today, to be honest it was mainly for the headset though since the price with or without game are so nominally close.

I'll give it a shot later on tonight.

I think I'll get it for the headset as well. it seems stupid to buy the headset alone when it is a bargain coming with SOCOM.

PS. they will offer it as stand alone, obviously.

[D3adcell]

This is bullshit, the game launches today and it doesn't even work. The servers are down and as soon as you load the game it signs you out of PSN...........


WTF is going on sony.

edit: finally able to get it to keep me signed in, though a lot of people are reporting problems with the servers and stuff.

also the headset doesn't seem to stay on very well.

[Z]

I went to check out if it comes with the headset over here (Australia) and the game is delayed till 27/11/2008. still no sign of a headset bundle either.

[D3adcell]

while now i am in a room, everyone is set to ready, and the game will not launch. They should not have launched this if it was not ready.

[Z]

I heard there were problems with the demo version. guess they didn't fix everything yet. that is I don't like it when a small time dev like Slant Six handles a big project like this- especially when you are shadowed by someone as big as Zipper...

[D3adcell]

I am seriously considering returning the game and getting my money back.

[Z]

with the problems reported with the beta, you shouldn't have jumped in so early. return it and give it a few months. check before you buy it if they ironed everything out. besides, the coming two months will have the biggest releases of the year. why take chances when there are so many sure hits so soon from release?

[D3adcell]

Well now that I can actually play the game it is fun. Desert Glory is sweet.

I was just frustrated from not being able to play.

[GTAce]

Yeah the only problem i heard from was, that the servers were down.
Desert Glory for the motherfucking incredible awesome god damn win!

EDIT: Now i just need to play it. lol

[Nameless]

^I have not even played Desert Glory yet...
I tried to play late yesterday and could not get on the servers and once I was in every game would fail during the start process. I have to agree Six Slant is struggling with an online title with such a large fan base. A PSN release with online only should not have issues allowing players to play online, because it makes the game worthless. I'm sure this will be ironed out in a few days/weeks, but it sucks to buy it and have issues playing on day one. This whole rushing incomplete shit out the door that requires a patch updated from the start is getting old. :rant:

[OmniCloud]

^You guys are freakin hardcore;) I'd never buy an online game day one when the beta was still buggy;)

but, your hardship will pay off, since you'll probably be at the top of the ranks.

[TEEDA]

desert glory gameplay
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=gJa6R-1gskI
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=RAP6mG9F-S0

Frostfire seals side :
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Ho5OvvYrcXw
frostfire terro side
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=3uqJ_PdDe9M

[OG_Monkey]

does this support trophies btw?

Also is it purchasable on the PS Store?

[GTAce]

Epic, just epic.

[D3adcell]

does this support trophies btw?

Also is it purchasable on the PS Store?

Trophy support will come in a few weeks apparently.

It is on the playstation store.

[frosty]

^I have not even played Desert Glory yet...
I tried to play late yesterday and could not get on the servers and once I was in every game would fail during the start process. I have to agree Six Slant is struggling with an online title with such a large fan base. A PSN release with online only should not have issues allowing players to play online, because it makes the game worthless. I'm sure this will be ironed out in a few days/weeks, but it sucks to buy it and have issues playing on day one. This whole rushing incomplete shit out the door that requires a patch updated from the start is getting old. :rant:


Yeah, linger in shadows doesn't run at all on my system, nor does GTA4.

[Nameless]

The server issues with Socom continues...
I'm still unable to login to the servers and play a game.

Considering all the games being released I would recommend people avoid this title until the issues are sorted out. *The headset is excellent...*

[masteratt]

Man people are calling for Sony's head on this.

I then went to the official blog to see how the people there are responding and just went to the last comment page to see if they cooled down and nope...

So then, it made me REALLY agree with this guy:
THIS is why you don’t release online only games, if you can’t connect to a game all you have is a $60 coaster. How incompetent do you have to be to not be ready for the release of one of your brands flagship titles.

Real shocker that Sony got caught with its pants down again concerning the PS3, it’s no wonder Sony and the PS3 are in the position they’re in this gen. Poor decision after poor decision.

[Nameless]

^Unfortunately I completely agree...
Socom is an extremely important title, because the game has a huge fan based from the PS2. Honestly I think Six Slant still under estimated the number of players who would purchase this game on day one and hit their servers. If they would have consulted Zipper they could have better prepared for the server load based on PS2 Socom players. I know that would have been aggressive considering the number of PS2 players out there, but it would have been worse case scenario considering server loads.

It's absolutely unacceptable for an online only game to be released and not accessible for every player. I can understand some lag or stability issues, but no access to the server at all is a slap in the face after spending $60 bucks. I really like the included headset, but it's not worth $60 bucks since the fucking game is unplayable.

To make things worse the servers were brought to their knees Wednesday before the PSN version was released, but Sony still allowed more users to purchase the game on the PSN only to be unable to play. Sony & Six Slant need their asses kicked for this bullshit! :rant:

[Lucent Beam]

^That's sad that there's even a situation garnering that kind of reaction.
An instance like this just proves why Nintendo has the right idea of "it'll be done when it's done," despite consumer/fan bitching for a sooner release date. If all companies had this approach, sure maybe games would take a lot longer, but they wouldn't have terrible issues like this is having. I think the problem is that the mentality is "Get out more games faster for more money"... but if you went slower and made sure everything worked... more people would buy that one!

Also... as far as online only games... honestly, I think they are bullshit. I think any game that is completely unplayable without an internet connection is just a lazy cop-out for not having to include anything single player. Sure, some may argue "Well, this makes sure multiplayer is perfected"... well obviously not!

[curryking1]

The problem is that Sony normally has the idea it's done when it's done.

Why not with SOCOM? Did Slant Six screw up or did Sony not pay enough attention?

I'm just amazed the issue still stands. That's flat out embarrassing.

I think any game that is completely unplayable without an internet connection is just a lazy cop-out for not having to include anything single player. Sure, some may argue "Well, this makes sure multiplayer is perfected"... well obviously not!

I'm really not following that argument. Being online only SOCOM is really hurt by it not working online. It could've happened to any game, but it's that much worse happening to an online-only title.

It really does become a high cost paperweight but that doesn't suddenly strip the value out of other online-only games like Warhawk.

Of being perfected? Things just happen sometimes.

[masteratt]

Sony seems to make the same mistake with every online games, server side.

They think only 10 people are going to play or something lol.
Most online games launch and a day later;
Sony-"oh shit hang on, server overloaded, maintenance and update soon".

And the fact they don't learn from one mistake after another online wise is honestly making me worried about LBP...
Will it take 3 weeks before we can Play.Create.Share?

[Nameless]

^Good point...
I may hold off on LBP until I hear the game is actually playable.

[OG_Monkey]

wait wait wait....this game is $60? :susp:

EDIT:

nvm, thats WITH the headset. So what exactly is the problem, cant connect to games? I think i'll avoid this for awhile then

[AC!D]

Ouch i guess no one can really defend Sony on this one they just really messed up badly.

[Smokey]

cliffy will :) jk

[D3adcell]

I haven't played my PS3 really in a while and was going to start playing a lot with Socom, but now I can't. When it does work though it's fun, but it only works half the time.

[Smokey]

it doesnt have anything to do with the latest update does it? as on COD4 ya cant have 2 games in a row anymore since the update. as the "server" keeps timing out

[TEEDA]

Looks like there still some minor graphical bugs, but which won't stop the title to be playable.
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll215/DonMaJic/Normal1.jpg
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll215/DonMaJic/100_1247.jpg
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll215/DonMaJic/Normal2.jpg
http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll215/DonMaJic/100_1249.jpg

[curryking1]

*facepalm

How many facepalms are there today!? What quality assurance is that Sony?!

[masteratt]

What the fuck are they doing?...This seriously is starting to feel surreal....

[Cyrus]

It's kinda funny. Different developer, still the same broken Socom it has always been. Though this one doenst have as good gameplay nor lefty preset so I wont buy it at all.. Socom 2 despite its technical shortcomings and constant glitches and bugs is still one of the best games ever (best multiplayer shooter ever) so this makes me sad but whatever.. Damn Slant 6 to hell, that's all I can think of at the moment.

[curryking1]

What the fuck are they doing?...This seriously is starting to feel surreal....

I'm dumbstruck. And now I'm hoping I'm dreaming...

[D3adcell]

Yes the textures do pop in and out. Not too frequently when you are playing, but when you are spectating it does it like crazy.

[Red]

Is this game really good? I played the beta it sucked.
Can someone explain all 7 maps?
Have they improved the graphics?
Still a lot of aliasing there?
Really Texture pop ups?

[D3adcell]

I would say it has potential, but don't buy it just yet. Wait until they fix the issues.

[Red]

I would say it has potential, but don't buy it just yet. Wait until they fix the issues.

To late. I've ordered the game from videogamesplus. :lol:

[Z]

I'll get the headset with the game when they fix their servers. so,

http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa188/shmookins/tell-me-when-its-over.jpg

[OmniCloud]

lol...

[D3adcell]

I am really starting to despise slant six, I don't think i will ever purchase another game they make. Why did sony have to give the socom franchise to these fuck ups? the game is just the btea with more maps, it's horrible. The game freezes all the time, the controller settings from previous socoms are left out, most of the online options that were supposed to be in the game are not actually in it.

Slant Six royally fucked this game up. I guess I got the game for 10$ with the headset so i'll take the hit, but if anyone is planning on buying this, don't bother wasting your money until it is fixed (if ever).

[Cyrus]

Yep, true words D3adcell. Have to say there's not a dev I hate more than Slant 6. Will never buy a game made by them and will never recommend their games to anyone, the opposite actually.

Oh well, it sounded way too promising when they were talking about how they'd "listen to the fans" etc when they revealed the project.

[TEEDA]

hello,

i wanted to keep everyone up to date on where we are and what we are doing.

The consumer response to socom: Confrontation has been huge. We are consistently seeing almost 100,000 people log in everyday with peaks of 25,000 simultaneous users. On average, you are playing about 3.1 hours per person with a total of 300,000 player hours everyday. I would like to thank all of you for helping to make socom: Confrontation such a great success.

As i'm sure many of you are aware, the launch has not gone without its share of problems. Unfortunately, the server environment is not holding up during peak loads. We've made many changes and improvements to the server to improve the issues (the first few days were really rocky) but we are still seeing server issues when we get up to around 25,000 simultaneous players during peak hours. Our primary focus at this time is to resolve these server issues. We have all available resources looking into the issues and we are trying to resolve them as quickly as possible. It is not as easy as adding more servers, we have to identify and fix the bottlenecks in the system which are preventing the servers from scaling properly. The servers should continue to get progressively better as we roll out server side updates.

As a reminder, our scheduled daily server maintenance is between 5am and 8am pdt (8am to 11am edt). We bring the servers down during this time to roll out updates. The servers will usually only be down for about 20-30 minutes but some updates may take longer.

In parallel to the server updates, we are also working on a new client patch which resolves some client side stability issues. These issues include getting booted to the xmb, large number of players getting disconnected from a specific game and other issues. We've been working on and testing this since the game launched and we should have a final version ready for release in the next week or so. It is hard to provide an exact date or timeframe as we need to make sure the patch is thoroughly tested and does not introduce any new issues.

We are also working on a patch to enable trophies and address various user feedback but this will be after the stability patch. Our top priority is getting both the servers and client as stable as possible before making any changes which could possibly cause other issues. Please continue to provide feedback in the socom: Confrontation playstation.com forum. We do read it and use the feedback to make further changes and tweaks in future updates.

Regards,

seth luisi
director of development
sony computer entertainment america

[masteratt]

That should have been their response as soon as the BETA rolled out.
AFTER the game launches to say "oh shit we'll fixc it lulz!" is stupid, OF COURSE you'll fix it, but you shouldn't launch it like this.

From reading that it sounds like they are still treating this like a BETA...Sounds like they don't expect people to pay $60 and play their freakin' game at day one.

Anyway hope everything gets fixed, I really want to pick this up.
But I'm having doubts as to wanting to support this kind of mess...We'll see...

[Red]

I said them that it would be better to delay the game. Screw you SLant Six and Sony.

[TEEDA]

Let's give them a chance. Well maybe the european version will get the correct version in November lol.
Maybe they should have stuck with European servers, and US servers separated...
But yeah, the current problems are definitely making the game going down in few reviews I' ve seen so far. And for an " only online " MP game experience...It s kinda frustrating.

But hey ! it will certainly get better I hope..Or else let's wait the messah ==> M.A.G , Zipper will save us ! lol

[Cyrus]

Lolz, CoD5 beta probably has a lot more people at peak times (I'm playing from Europe so ain't playing when US people are playing and I've seen almost 20k players online at the same time) and it works flawlessly while full release Socom goes completely down...

[Smokey]

Lolz, CoD5 beta probably has a lot more people at peak times (I'm playing from Europe so ain't playing when US people are playing and I've seen almost 20k players online at the same time) and it works flawlessly while full release Socom goes completely down...

how can ya tell how many people are playing a game a certain time. people said this about COD4 but where do ya check?

[masteratt]

^PS3 doesn't have it.

On 360, when you go to Team Deathmatch for example, it says under the game description "[number of users] are currently playing this game mode".

It's a neat feature, one Infinity Ward were too bitchy to put in the PS3 version [for CallOfDuty 4].
Hopefully we'll have it for CoD5.

[indiekid4]

Well...how is the game playing now, it's been about a week since they said they would be working on the fixes...

[Nameless]

^I stopped playing until they address the game crashing issues...
Once a patch is released I will give this another try. :(

Fortunately there are tons of great games to play so I will be patient, but there's a chance this game could be forgotten... *Remember this is coming from a huge Socom 2 fan...*

[TEEDA]

Sony just updated the official SOCOM site with some information about the much-needed SOCOM: Confrontation patches. They are working hard on the server issues as you'll see in the statement and the client patch appears to be final testing. Hopefully they will be able to wrap this up and start focusing on additional content...one thing at a time though.

Since the launch of SOCOM: U.S. Navy SEALs Confrontation in North America, we've been working to address the server and stability issues in order to get them resolved ASAP. We have a team of close to 100 people working to get the issues resolved.

On the server side, we've been updating the SOCOM: Confrontation servers nearly every morning and we have not seen any major server access issues in the last week. We are continuing to optimize the servers and we've also started the process of restoring some game UI (User Interface) features which were disabled on the server side a few days after launch in order to reduce load on the servers.

On the game client side, we are in acceptance testing for the 1.20SOCOM:Confrontation game update.

As mentioned in my previous post, the focus of this patch is to address stability and serious playability issues only.

The 1.20 update addresses many of the freezes and getting booted to the XMB issues. It also addresses the mass game boot (where many players are simultaneously disconnected from a game), the scope offset issue when prone or using the SIXAXIS peek and other issues. We are doing all we can to get this patch released this week but a final date is still TBD until the acceptance testing is complete. Once we have a final date we will post it here on the blog along with a complete fix list.

We are committed to making SOCOM: Confrontation not only the best SOCOM game but the best online shooter period. We appreciate all of your feedback and support.

Regards,

Seth Luisi
Director of Development
Sony Computer Entertainment America

[D3adcell]

The scope thing was really pissing me off, glad they are fixing it soon.

[masteratt]

We are committed to making SOCOM: Confrontation not only the best SOCOM game but the best online shooter period.
You shouldn't have been lazy instead of readying the game for launch then.
What BS.

I'm starting to hate this game based on principle and how slack Sony/ devs acted towards it.

BUT if once everything is fixed, it's fun to play, no gamer can refuse :P (actually i might...lol...depends HOW fun).

[Z]

for the members in the game, please keep the rest of us updated and let us know when the game is made proper, not announced, when it actually is there.

in the mean time, I added Slant Six to my shitty black list along with the Buffy Silent Hill makers. what a fucking disgrace...

here's a hint to publishers: never EVER hand out your biggest franchise to be developed externally. outsource all you want, but keep the core design internal. and this not only goes for popular games, but for those with a strong fanbase like with these two examples.

[Bsack]

This game is great guys and I don't understand why you feel Slant Six did a bad job. Yeah the servers have a few issues, but it doesn't make the game unplayable at all and they don't happen as frequently as you all make it seem. I am happy that Slant Six captured the beauty of the old school games were with a mix of new. I play only on the normal sized maps and not the large so I don't know if there are issues between playing on the normal and large maps.

[D3adcell]

Well things like scoping in. If you scope in while prone, it moves the scope to make it appear as if you are standing up, then your bullet is hitting like 4 inches below the crosshairs. It is almost impossible to snipe while prone.

The quick swap I can never get it to work right.



Other then that I think my biggest gripes are that things have been changed and I just need to adjust, the guns have so much more recoil now and are not nearly as accurate as before. The armor, i hate it. I think it's retarded that some guys can take so many hits just because of armor or whatever, I don't think it should be in the game.

The button layouts, there is no way to customize them. The control sticks aswell, no way to customize them. I hate how reload is the right stick as sometimes I will hit it in the middle of a firefight and there is no way to switch reload to a different button.

[Z]

so i take it that the headset is teh awesomeness since I didn't hear a single complaint from how it works?
is HQ mode really that noticeable?

[masteratt]

Well things like scoping in. If you scope in while prone, it moves the scope to make it appear as if you are standing up, then your bullet is hitting like 4 inches below the crosshairs. It is almost impossible to snipe while prone.

The quick swap I can never get it to work right.



Other then that I think my biggest gripes are that things have been changed and I just need to adjust, the guns have so much more recoil now and are not nearly as accurate as before. The armor, i hate it. I think it's retarded that some guys can take so many hits just because of armor or whatever, I don't think it should be in the game.

The button layouts, there is no way to customize them. The control sticks aswell, no way to customize them. I hate how reload is the right stick as sometimes I will hit it in the middle of a firefight and there is no way to switch reload to a different button.

BIG. FAT. FAIL!!
(not your informative post, the guys..slant six or whoever developed it)

I want to meet them and say this:
"Motherfucker, what the fuck have you been doing all this time?!?!"

I am always understanding when it comes to bugs, of course some minor or sometimes major ones will slip by now and then.

But when your online only game is unstable, doesn't know the difference between prone aiming and crouch aiming or whatever and you didn't even bother to put in any basic options like control layout change.
BIG FAT FUCKING FAIL!
I don't give a shit if it's a 10/10 when playable, I'm not paying a penny to these lazy assholes.

Sorry to rant [and this will be the last time] but it really pisses me off when people we pay don't give us respect and put out shit like this.
What's a bigger spit in the face is they had a public BETA! And none of the shit from the BETA seems to be fixed!
These kinds of things man....So fucking disrespectful and unacceptable...ESPECIALLY when it's not that much of a complicated project.

[D3adcell]

And the fact that there is a total of like 7 maps.... seems like they could have had this stuff fixed by release. At least they are addressing the issues though.

[Z]

an online-only game should never be released when gamers can't (wait for it) get online. it's just one of those 'duh' rules.

[D3adcell]

The patch is coming tomorrow morning, check socom.com if you don't believe.

[Z]

what about the headset? all good or is there any issues?

as for the patch, I'll care when the problem is over, not what happens till then. by they way, SOCOM got pushed till exactly the end of next month. so perhaps we'll get it working here.

[Red]

One question. Do you still need one minute to wait to launch a game/map? I mean they can't be serious. I mean you put the f.... game on a hard disc. Socom 2 maps loaded in max 30 seconds sorry and they had no hard disc drive.

[D3adcell]

Sometimes it still takes a minute to load the map. Not always though.

[Red]

Is it normal that the picture sometimes freezes for a second?

[D3adcell]

That was supposed to be fixed in the patch, i guess it wasn't.

[Nameless]

^Once I complete Dead Space I will give the patch a shot...
If the game is still not working properly I will move on to Resistance 2 or GOW 2.

[Red]

That was supposed to be fixed in the patch, i guess it wasn't.

Right, i play the game not with the newest patch. Just wanted to know if I#m the only one with this problem.

[D3adcell]

It hasn't really happened to me at all since the patch was released. Though before it happened a lot.

[Bsack]

The patch didn't seem to do anything other than stop the booting of people so frequently.

Some of the problems you guys are having are small in my opinion and nothing really major to complain about. I don't even understand why you guys use scopes because I don't use them and I still manage to get kills from good distances away. Why would you even want to go prone in this game? I understand the crosshairs shouldn't move at all while you are in prone, but hey I won't have those kinds of problems when I don't use it at all nor will I ever. I'm a gunner/rusher/sometimes camper.

I do agree the quick switch is terrible and very slow at that, but grenades are barely effective in this game so there really is no point in even taking them out half the time. I do agree the reloading takes far too long in this game, but these are minor issues in my opinion and doesn't make this game unplayable. I understand for some of you this makes or breaks a game, but that's too bad. The maps are laid out well (at least the small ones are), the guns are good, and the competition is there.

[Mattgame]

I couldn't read all of the pages so can someone tell me a review of this game. IGN seems to have left it alone.

[Z]

I think the verdict is that the game is good, if you can get to play it.

[Moyospeed]

bingo

[OmniCloud]

roger that;)

[Bsack]

what do you guys mean IF you can play it? it plays fine and there isn't any problems with the game if you wanted to play it.

[D3adcell]

Before the patch a lot of people couldn't play it without it freezing or booting them. Even with the patch I have had it freeze my ps3 and boot me still, just doesn't happen often now. If you had played the original ps2 socoms you would know why prone sniping is good.

I like to use scopes to pick people off from a cross the map and also when I snipe. Though now the scope issue is fixed so it's not a problem. The problem wasn't that the scope moved when prone and using a bipod, it was that it raised the camera up and it was at the over the shoulder view again. So say you were standing and zoomed in your scope is going to be at a higher y axis then when you are prone right? Well before the path even if you were prone it would set the scope to the same y axis everytime and it was literally impossible.

The issues are not that small at all when they were included in all the other games and worked. You never go prone and never use scopes, thats fine but for those of us that do it was a major problem.

They are also supposed to fix the grenade radius i believe, right now it is crap, though they shouldn't be so bad so you would want to use them and be able to quick swap.

The guns are decent, though my major problem is that you don't have every gun from the beggining. You have to be in a certain clan to have certain guns which is a dumb idea and an unfair advantage kind of. Then they kind of made it unbalanced by making the terrorist weapons so much better. The 552 and Ak-47 have almost 0 recoil and are so easy to use. All of the seal weapons recoil like crazy, which not a big deal it can be something people get used to but i end up dreading being the seals.

Another thing is that the sniper rifles are also kind of messed up. They took out the m82a1a for the terrorists which at the moment isn't a big deal because the .50 call snipers don't even kill people in one hit or even two sometimes. They also took out the sr25 on the seals side which I think is a huge disadvantage for the seals. The terrorists have silenced snipers, the seals do not? Seems retarded if you ask me, you would think that the seals would be the ones with the better equipment or at least silenced snipers.

I am enjoying the game though now that it works, but I think there are some things they need to work on still.

[Z]

This should not be considered a guarantee that these items will be in the 1.30 update, but we did want to give everyone a heads up as to what is on our plate currently.

New Features

* SOCOM Awards and PSN Trophies
* DTS audio support
* Add HUD and scoreboard opacity
* Scoreboard invocation improvements (tap select for persistent scoreboard, hold for temporary)
* Spectator mode HUD turns off after brief interval
* Spectator camera look now respects user invert on/off setting
* Spectator camera pan now consistent with in game camera
* Add dive-to-prone
* Add lean control to d-pad
* Gear items stackable
* Extend post-round period
* Restrict RPGs and grenade launchers in ranked rooms
* Increase prone movement speed
* Adding support for lefty control configuration (analog stick functions swapped)
* Increase frag grenade effectiveness
* Prevent incorrect reload interruptions

Bug Fixes

* Fix animation issue when prone rolling near certain objects.
* Fix remaining issues with statistics gathering and display
* Fix bugs related to equipping of C4 in breach mode
* Fix occasional audio drop outs
* Fix last remaining framerate hitch when other clients late join
* Fix remaining stability issues
* Fix hostages being affected by smoke
http://socom.us.playstation.com/default.aspx

[OmniCloud]

so it's looking like Socom Confrontation is slowly becoming Socom 2 HD;) That's good to hear, a few months and it should be right up there with COD.

[masteratt]

[another rant about how that stuff should have been in there already, they are so fucking basic]

I've never played SOCOM though so I'm interested in this once the devs realise it's out and it shouldn't be in BETA stage anymore...¬_¬

[OmniCloud]

yeah...no one's perfect though...maybe they honestly didn't see it coming. Maybe they were being lazy. You can't really know for sure. as long as a good game comes from all of this--it's goodies...

[masteratt]

Adding leaning, improving movement speed, prone to crouch animation, frag grenade effectiveness, incorrect reload interruptions etc
C'mon man this stuff doesn't just pass by you if you bothered to develop and test the game to your best ability.
This is the stuff you look at during the BETA and tweak for launch BUT these guys are new I think right? So I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt, as you said :)

I'm willing to wait what comes of it all (as mentioned in my previous post, looking forward to picking it up if it ever passes the BETA stage lol).

[OmniCloud]

being forgivable is a virtue:)

[masteratt]

Yeah but usually it doesn't cost unsuspecting customers $60 ;)

[OmniCloud]

true story....your being very forgivable when it comes to slant6

[Red]

How about a lan option?

And i want Blizzard, Nightstalker Vigilance back.

[TEEDA]

How about a lan option?

And i want Blizzard, Nightstalker Vigilance back.

Yes so want FoxHunt , Ruins ( day time ) , rat's nest and death trap ! lol

[Cyrus]

The list seems very very promising. It really seems they might be listening to the community after all!

AND, they are adding LEFTY CONTROL, THANK GOD! I can finally buy the game!! Man, I already said good bye to Socom but now I'm back on. Yeah!

[Moyospeed]

I've recently been playing at a friends house, I'm definately going to pick it up. I'm surprised at how many people stuck with it through the rough launch.

[Z]

the franchise have a strong small following.

[Red]

WHat is the lefty control?

[GTAce]

Left stick aim, right stick move, for left-handed persons.

[Nameless]

^I'm left handed and never used that layout...

[cliffbo]

i can't understand why they put it out broken, it's not as if there is a shortage of exclusive FPS for the PS3 at the moment. bad move this but i'm sure the fans will keep it alive

[GTAce]

The funny thing is, it seems like its delayed till January here.
So the US folks are Beta tester for us. lol

[cliffbo]

The funny thing is, it seems like its delayed till January here.
So the US folks are Beta tester for us. lol

lol... yeah, let them suffer so that we get the final build :)

[GTAce]

Thats the revenge for us not getting the PS2 HDD and downloadable maps for SOCOM 2. :-p

[TEEDA]

Socom Confrontation delayed until january 19th 2009 in France...

http://www.playfrance.com/news-ps3-socom-confrontation-en-2009-en-france-526330.html

Does that concern all Europe ?
Fuck...

[masteratt]

It should be delayed a bit longer, the game obviously has some development time to go.

[Red]

The game runs fine on the german servers don't have something to complain.

By the way the 1.30 Patch is on the way. The only problem that i have that the pictures freezes sometimes for 1 second and you are on a nother place. They should improve the game with a client patch.

[Xclusion]

is the PSN version game shareable?