Do you think Blu-ray from PS3 will help sell PSPs?

[cliffbo]

just a quick poll. i've been reading many articles with replies and forums and there are many people saying: 'time to pick up a PSP lite' will it have a knock on effect?

[Fats]

No.

Games will.

[hevymac]

Considering how quickly they've been selling, I'd be surprised if most people who'd read this haven't got one already.....
So no, since I have one already but won't actually vote but I LOOOOOOOOOOVE the feature.

[Gummy]

No.

Games will.

[cliffbo]

oh dear, i can see anther poll wasted just because people can't answer a simple question. of course games will sell the PSP, but this is asking: will Blu-ray from PS3 to PSP help sell PSPs? i think it will

[Fats]

To answer your question then.

No.

[hevymac]

You should have a third option. Maybe, "I already have one"

[cliffbo]

Considering how quickly they've been selling, I'd be surprised if most people who'd read this haven't got one already.....
So no, since I have one already but won't actually vote but I LOOOOOOOOOOVE the feature.

step out out of yourself for a second! will it help to sell PSPs to those that don't have one... forget the fact that you have one or that others here have one. i have one already but i still answered based on the SIMPLE question, and actually considering the implications

[cliffbo]

You should have a third option. Maybe, "I already have one"

WHY? WHY? WHY?!!!!!!!!!! it's a simple question. it doesn't matter if you have one.

[hevymac]

Considering how quickly they've been selling, I'd be surprised if most people who'd read this haven't got one already.....
So no, since I have one already but won't actually vote but I LOOOOOOOOOOVE the feature.
I said no mate...... I'm sorry about your confusion.

[raVen]

God of War, Crisis Core, Kingdom Hearts: BBS, and Final Fantasy Dissidia will make me buy a new Psp.Everything that sony is doing is just bonus

[cliffbo]

I said no mate...... I'm sorry about your confusion.

but did you vote on the fact that you already had one or did you consider how other consumers will react? bare in mind that i posted this poll because i'm reading posts everywhere on forums where people are saying they may consider buying a PSP because of this. would people like to have an alternative to the UMD? if so, what's the best way of them getting a PSP version of the movie? if they could buy a Blu-ray movie and watch a version of it on their PSP via the PS3, would they consider investing in something that they have been considering for a while? would they consider giving their mate the download then after seeing the film later on the bus as their mates are watching it, feel a little envious and consider buying one?

[cliffbo]

God of War, Crisis Core, Kingdom Hearts: BBS, and Final Fantasy Dissidia will make me buy a new Psp.Everything that sony is doing is just bonus

that is not the question!!!!!!!!!! forget the god damn games! it's a simple question that makes you consider other people instead of just yourself

[woundingchaney]

lol

ok no i dont think it will be much of a selling point for the device, as stated games will sell the device

though it is a nice option

[cliffbo]

damn! i just realized how i've worded the poll! i'll get one right one day. it should have been: do you think Blu-ray from PS3 will help sell PSPs? 'you' in Britain can be an impersonal pronoun, meaning generally anyone

perhaps a mod could change the thread title to that lol

[woundingchaney]

no problem Cliff

You want it to say:

Do you think Blu-ray from PS3 will help sell PSPs?

[cliffbo]

no problem Cliff

You want it to say:

Do you think Blu-ray from PS3 will help sell PSPs?

Yep! lol

[AC!D]

Well the PS3 and PSP go hand in hand with this bit of news because you have to transfer the files from your PS3 to your PSP and i would think that most if not all of the 9 million PS3 owners already have a PSP so i would have to go with no.

[GTAce]

Hmmm i dont think so.
I voted no, but it would be nice.

[Jay Gee]

Voted no, cuz I'm getting a PSP for Chains of Olympus, KZ: Liberation, and Pata-pata-Pata Pon!

[Shadow Voa]

PSP needs (more?) good games. Where the hell is the Resident Evil and Devil May Cry PSP games? Where the fuck is my Chrono Cross and Trigger?!!!!

[Zer0-Sum]

I want more game for both please. More and kooler gamers will help sell systems. For those that all ready have a PSP and a PS3 this is very kool indeed. But games are what convinced people to buy a system, not really functions. The idea of functions do help, but not nearly as much as games do.

[LiquidEagle]

I don't think it'll be that big of a selling point, overall, but it's definitely going to be really nice :-D

I want my PS3 to do this with DVDs as well, no reason why it shouldn't.

[cliffbo]

lock this thread! only games sell the PSP... Sony, take every feature out of the PSP and just stick with the games, then it will sell a lot more

[Shadow Voa]

lock this thread! only games sell the PSP... Sony, take every feature out of the PSP and just stick with the games, then it will sell a lot more

What he said!!!

[OmniCloud]

I want more game for both please. More and kooler gamers will help sell systems. For those that all ready have a PSP and a PS3 this is very kool indeed. But games are what convinced people to buy a system, not really functions. The idea of functions do help, but not nearly as much as games do.This is the consensus...

this is the right consensus...

THIS IS MY WILL...

LOCK THE THReAD!!!

:lol:

[cliffbo]

yep lock it, this question is too difficult for most people to consider, even though i've already read dozens of posts on other forums stating that they may consider buying a PS3 because of this feature (which is why i posted this poll) i mean, of course they were lying.

[lips]

as though psp some how has penis envy.

[Shadow Voa]

yep lock it, this question is too difficult for most people to consider, even though i've already read dozens of posts on other forums stating that they may consider buying a PS3 because of this feature (which is why i posted this poll) i mean, of course they were lying.

I didnt even know Sony was on the Blu-ray camp, woah the news!!!

[masteratt]

I'm a little confuzzled.

What the hell is this new feature you speak of?
*skipped long posts*

You can watch Blu-Ray movies via Remote Play?

A bit pointless isn't it?
You'll have to keep on calling home to ask someone to change the Blu-Ray film....

Or I got it wrong, please do elaborate.

[raVen]

you can download the movie from the ps3 to psp's memory stick.

[VideoGame mania]

I think yes, it should give a boost to sales. But it wont be the main selling point as games can only do that.
If I didn't own a PSP I would consider buying it for that feature.

[Red_Eyes]

Yes.

[Smokey]

you can download the movie from the ps3 to psp's memory stick.

im guessin it shrinks it?

[cliffbo]

im guessin it shrinks it?

I'm a little confuzzled.

What the hell is this new feature you speak of?
*skipped long posts*

You can watch Blu-Ray movies via Remote Play?

A bit pointless isn't it?
You'll have to keep on calling home to ask someone to change the Blu-Ray film....

Or I got it wrong, please do elaborate.

the plan is to release Blu-ray movies with a PSP version on the disk too so that you can then put it on a memory stick and watch that version on the go on your PSP... this is probably why they have just announced the 16GB memory stick.

[Coded-Dude]

what fucking format!...?

It'd be nice if they gave tech specs so you could know if its compatible with other portable devices and not just PSP(Zune, Ipod, Zen, Sansa View, etc.) They would be wise to allow others to transfer this data too as it would be a waste of time and money to only allow this feature on PSP(only transferable from PS3). PS3+PSP owners will be a very VERY small market once standalone BD players are more mainstream.

[cliffbo]

what fucking format!...?

It'd be nice if they gave tech specs so you could know if its compatible with other portable devices and not just PSP(Zune, Ipod, Zen, Sansa View, etc.) They would be wise to allow others to transfer this data too as it would be a waste of time and money to only allow this feature on PSP(only transferable from PS3). PS3+PSP owners will be a very VERY small market once standalone BD players are more mainstream.

if i was Sony i would only allow it to be used with the PSP. that way it's another incentive for people to buy a PSP... er... but obviously it won't work. Sony's a business not a charity

[Coded-Dude]

thats true, but it would have to be transferable from any BD player....because if its from PS3 only you are really making a feature that a very small margin of your consumers will actually use. Of course if they allow it to be used on any portable device that supports said "codec" then it would be an enticement to go buy a BD player(possibly a PS3). either way Sony makes money, but I think they should cater to a lager group of people(not just PSP Owners).

[cliffbo]

thats true, but it would have to be transferable from any BD player....because if its from PS3 only you are really making a feature that a very small margin of your consumers will actually use. Of course if they allow it to be used on any portable device that supports said "codec" then it would be an enticement to go buy a BD player(possibly a PS3). either way Sony makes money, but I think they should cater to a lager group of people(not just PSP Owners).

i think it will only be available to the PSP... it is a crafty move, i agree, but at the end of the day, anything that can put Sony into profit, profits us the consumer when it comes to inhouse investment in PS3 games. it's a really clever move in my opinion and i do believe that if someone with a standalone see the fact they have a PSP version too, they may well decide to invest in a PSP. i think that's a reasonable assumption when you consider that the change of a colour can sell DSs

this is the best strategic move Sony have made in a long time. those with a PS3 or a standalone Blu-ray player may well consider getting a PSP and those with a PSP may well consider buying a PS3. it will also help to sell more memory sticks and Blu-ray movies. with Skype, GPS and this, the PSP will keep it's momentum in Japan easily and that momentum will spread to other regions. with more Sony branded products out there, the Playstation brand will begin to dominate again.

[cliffbo]

i'm bumping this thread in light of the revolution that some either never realized what it meant or missed it

[Fats]

*sigh*

WE ALL FUCKING UNDERSTAND THIS CLIFFBO! PERHAPS YOU'RE MISSING THE POINT THAT IT'S NOT THE SECOND COMING OF CHRIST!

[cliffbo]

*sigh*

WE ALL FUCKING UNDERSTAND THIS CLIFFBO! PERHAPS YOU'RE MISSING THE POINT THAT IT'S NOT THE SECOND COMING OF CHRIST!

lets put aside the idea of the second coming of christ (which i never said) and just consider it, like other forums that i've asked this question on... lets not beef about the poster and just discuss it's potential or lack of potential. all i ask for is for people to 'rationally' explain why they think it won't or will help sell PS3, or for that matter PSPs. is that really a big ask? (this is rhetorical question and not intended as another reason to derail a very very very simple poll)

[TomTom456]

no.

[cliffbo]

no.

LOL, that's fair enough +rep for staying on topic :-p

[venomv]

I like polls with more then two options, I think it will sell some, just not alot....so I guess, yes.

[Fats]

Because in the BIGGER scheme of things GAMES shift consoles. Simple as that. People will not go out and actively purchase a PSP or PS3 because they can transfer a copy of a movie from Blu-Ray to the PSP. Games will be, and always will be, the significant primary factor in someone buying a games console.

[cliffbo]

Because in the BIGGER scheme of things GAMES shift consoles. Simple as that. People will not go out and actively purchase a PSP or PS3 because they can transfer a copy of a movie from Blu-Ray to the PSP. Games will be, and always will be, the significant primary factor in someone buying a games console.

so when you say primary you mean that this feature may well sell 'some' PS3s? did Blu-ray help to sell PS3 (that's not a game)

[cliffbo]

I like polls with more then two options, I think it will sell some, just not alot....so I guess, yes.

yep, the main selling point will always be games, but each feature gleans a small percentage and blurs the line between games machine and it's none gaming features. people buy GPSs for £300 pound, now they get one about half the price with more features. i'm sure some will buy it for Skype too and now here is another good reason... this is my main interest really and the evolving question: 'how long before the PSP is seen as the swiss army knife of devices as much as a great gaming device.' i want one now myself, but that's simply because of skype. i guess we'll see the trends unfolding in the sales figures as they release after this feature is widely known

[Smokey]

Because in the BIGGER scheme of things GAMES shift consoles. Simple as that. People will not go out and actively purchase a PSP or PS3 because they can transfer a copy of a movie from Blu-Ray to the PSP. Games will be, and always will be, the significant primary factor in someone buying a games console.

yeah i can do that with dvds & ya dont need HD quality for PSP why do it with Blu-ray when its easily done buy a PC & DVD

[Leedogg]

Nope

[zero 7]

for all i love my psp for multimedia functions at the end of the day it is a born games system

[LaLiLuLeLo]

casts vote: not.....really...

[curryking1]

Why are the options only yes and no? Why are there no options in between?

It's a pretty poor poll when the questioner allows the only answers as yes and no.

Not only that though, you are intentionally trying to lead people into saying 'yes, it will help.'

Even worse is that you are trying to use the most minute possibility and trying to make people's 'maybe it will help a little bit' answers become hard and fast and absolute 'yes' answers.

I see you talking to Fats here and trying to turn something he is calling unimportant, lateral or secondary into an unquestionable, absolute driving force of PSP sales.

Yes means yes. It is complete agreeance. A little bit, or slightly, or possibly, or secondary is not complete.

Try a scale perhaps? Moderately agree, strongly disagree, scale from 2 to 7, 1 to 9?

Could this be the worst poll ever created? Yes, quite possibly the worst poll ever created.

At least you fixed one giant mistake in the title that didn't at all correspond with the content of the opening post's question. But then you left this other larger hole as well. Maybe that was done to distract people from the far larger mistake? Or maybe you're just that stupid*. Who knows, seems like you might not either.

*It sounds better with stupid, sorry for being so mean :)

[hevymac]

Why are the options only yes and no? Why are there no options in between?

It's a pretty poor poll when the questioner allows the only answers as yes and no.

Not only that though, you are intentionally trying to lead people into saying 'yes, it will help.'

Even worse is that you are trying to use the most minute possibility and trying to make people's 'maybe it will help a little bit' answers become hard and fast and absolute 'yes' answers.

I see you talking to Fats here and trying to turn something he is calling unimportant, lateral or secondary into an unquestionable, absolute driving force of PSP sales.

Yes means yes. It is complete agreeance. A little bit, or slightly, or possibly, or secondary is not complete.

Try a scale perhaps? Moderately agree, strongly disagree, scale from 2 to 7, 1 to 9?

Could this be the worst poll ever created? Yes, quite possibly the worst poll ever created.

At least you fixed one giant mistake in the title that didn't at all correspond with the content of the opening post's question. But then you left this other larger hole as well. Maybe that was done to distract people from the far larger mistake? Or maybe you're just that stupid*. Who knows, seems like you might not either.

*It sounds better with stupid, sorry for being so mean :)

I should've used this wording for my posts earlier. I don't want a poll to put words in my mouth. I want more options!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Fats]

Curry for president!

[Shadow Voa]

I think it needs more good games Cliff, what they have at the moment isn't anything special and nothing worth paying $40 for in my opinion, in case it hasn't been mentioned.

[LaLiLuLeLo]

I don't know if that's a fair argument. PSP has a lot of good and great games to choose from already. It's not that the system isn't selling well, it's that DS sales continue to overshadow it. The fact that it's remained a viable competitor against nintendo too often goes ignored, something that no other handheld system has accomplished. PSP is just trying to find it's niche in the market. DS may have more games but better games is a matter of opinion, the amount of shovelware on the system (like the Wii, which can be blamed on the system's success) is as real as you or me. It's all perception, but back to the point, my vote is no not really.

[Shadow Voa]

I don't know if that's a fair argument. PSP has a lot of good and great games to choose from already. It's not that the system isn't selling well, it's that DS sales continue to overshadow it. The fact that it's remained a viable competitor against nintendo too often goes ignored, something that no other handheld system has accomplished. PSP is just trying to find it's niche in the market. DS may have more games but better games is a matter of opinion, the amount of shovelware on the system (like the Wii, which can be blamed on the system's success) is as real as you or me. It's all perception, but back to the point, my vote is no not really.

Ugh yeah... well that's really a matter of preference I guess since I would disagree. So I'll just edit my previous comment so its opinionated, thus everything will work out.

[OmniCloud]

yeah the PSP vs. DS thing is kinda old now...

Did Sony take over the hand-held market and dominate like they did with the original PS? Nope

Are they the first REAL competitor to Ninty in this space since the freakin GameGear? Yup

Are there millions of people out there with PSP's and that number continually growing? Yup

Will PSP sells ever exceed DS worldwide? Nope

Has Sony accomplished much with PSP--indeed, and there's no telling where it will go with all this PS3-PSP-Blu-ray-PC stuff they got going on.

IMO--just like the Wii--DS appeals to a broader range of people, which the PSP has yet to do. As Lali said tho, that doesn't necessarily mean it's a better system with better games. Wii is selling like hotcakes right now yet I can only name a few titles I would call great games. It's certainly a matter of preference/appeal/price.

Remember, there were a bunch of articles saying "Sony good try, but here's the things to do with PSP2" It's over already for Sony's system..."and a bunch of doom and gloom for PSP.

It's still here, selling well, with a bunch of exclusive experiences. It's carried around by a different group of people than DS altogether (which is an accomplishment on it's own) it's already found it's niche, now it's just trying to expand it.

Blu-ray is just another benefit of people with a PS3 and PSP--not really a push to go out and get one, but definitely another good word of mouth asset for current and future owners of the console.

while I voted no, it doesn't hurt PSP sells:shrug:

[cliffbo]

I don't know if that's a fair argument. PSP has a lot of good and great games to choose from already. It's not that the system isn't selling well, it's that DS sales continue to overshadow it. The fact that it's remained a viable competitor against nintendo too often goes ignored, something that no other handheld system has accomplished. PSP is just trying to find it's niche in the market. DS may have more games but better games is a matter of opinion, the amount of shovelware on the system (like the Wii, which can be blamed on the system's success) is as real as you or me. It's all perception, but back to the point, my vote is no not really.

needed saying +rep... PSP is the first viable challenger

[PS3LikeNoOther]

My god this site is going to shit. This is an awsome feature. Try to think about a average person. Their are more people that could give a flying fuck about games than their are that do. I don't care what games are released some people WILL NOT PLAY GAMES. Lately this site has been nothing but a piss on the PS3 portol. If the god damn PS3/PSP fans can not accept that somthing like this is a great feature then how the hell is the average consumer going to. Most of you fuckers have got to realize that if Sony would have taken more advantage of the multimedia of both consoles they would be doing worlds better. I can not count the number of times people that have no interest in games get all exited for the PSP or PS3, and then they ask so does it work with iTunes? No they do not currently use iTunes or an equvalent. And then people loose intrest. This site rally needs to grow the fuck up and start accepting ideas beyond just games. The PS3/PSP are beyond that. Sony said this right in their god dam marketing. With that I end my rant and my time with PSInext.

[cliffbo]

My god this site is going to shit. This is an awsome feature. Try to think about a average person. Their are more people that could give a flying fuck about games than their are that do. I don't care what games are released some people WILL NOT PLAY GAMES. Lately this site has been nothing but a piss on the PS3 portol. If the god damn PS3/PSP fans can not accept that somthing like this is a great feature then how the hell is the average consumer going to. Most of you fuckers have got to realize that if Sony would have taken more advantage of the multimedia of both consoles they would be doing worlds better. I can not count the number of times people that have no interest in games get all exited for the PSP or PS3, and then they ask so does it work with iTunes? No they do not currently use iTunes or an equvalent. And then people loose intrest. This site rally needs to grow the fuck up and start accepting ideas beyond just games. The PS3/PSP are beyond that. Sony said this right in their god dam marketing. With that I end my rant and my time with PSInext.

Bravo :clap: i might not agree with the tone of your response, but that's exactly why i try to sometimes point out the broader picture.

[Fats]

Good riddance with that attitude.

I really feel a lock is in order. It's like trying to explain the situation to a brick wall.

[cliffbo]

Good riddance with that attitude.

I really feel a lock is in order. It's like trying to explain the situation to a brick wall.

so basically this site has been reduced to 'lock this thread' everytime someone says something people don't agree with. this is getting ridiculous, Fats, he has a point. if poeple don't want to get involved in a thread like this they can simply not bother. it's not like it's a thread saying anything negative about the Wii or the 360! XBdestroya would have had NO problem with this thread at all. it's a simple question that for some reason people couldn't just join in, they brought on his response. it's they that should question their contributions not the poster in question.

[Fats]

You're missing the point as usual Cliffbo.

We all fucking joined in on the question. What I don't like is the belittling attitude you have towards people who happen to have a valid, logical opinion which happens to be different than yours. You seemingly can't handle that at all. My answer was clear as day, as was other peoples answers, yet you weren't content with that and got your knickers in a twist.

[cliffbo]

You're missing the point as usual Cliffbo.

We all fucking joined in on the question. What I don't like is the belittling attitude you have towards people who happen to have a valid, logical opinion which happens to be different that yours. You seemingly can't handle that at all. My answer was clear as day, as was other peoples answers, yet you weren't content with that and got your knickers in a twist.

i never miss the point, Fats... you do. you've clearly missed his point too. i did point out that i didn't agree with his tone or have you overlooked that? (see how easy a conversation like this can create conflict?) of course if i do believe it will help sell consoles i'm going to argue that, in the same way you would argue the opposite, that's conversation. and when you say 'WE' you are deliberately conveying the idea that i am the adversary here when in actual fact i'm being the one attacked for asking this really 'controversion question' and as far as 'belittling attitude'... what? 'can't handle different opinions? what? you don't know me at all Fats... not at all. many times i've said in the past 'i might be wrong' 'you have a point' and so on. but when i find myself in a converation about my integrity rather than the question at hand, then expect me to continue responding to every post that does that... that's quite normal you know

*sigh*

WE ALL FUCKING UNDERSTAND THIS CLIFFBO! PERHAPS YOU'RE MISSING THE POINT THAT IT'S NOT THE SECOND COMING OF CHRIST!

now that's belittling

[Fats]

Lol... I just realised that I'm having an Internet argument. This is where I end it. You can say I'm backing down because I have no counterargument, but in actual fact, I just don't give a shit.

I could pick so many contradictive points out of your last post, but why bother? You don't reason with anyone on this forum at all if they happen to have a different opinion, and because I've seen this countless times with countless posters I'd be better off ignoring you hence forth.

God speed.

[cliffbo]

Lol... I just realised that I'm having an Internet argument. This is where I end it. You can say I'm backing down because I have no counterargument, but in actual fact, I just don't give a shit.

You don't reason with anyone on this forum at all if they happen to have a different opinion, and because I've seen this countless times with countless posters I'd be better off ignoring you hence forth.

God speed.

that's fair enough fella... that's one less worry to get in the way of my conversations :)

noe could a mod please lock this fiasco ;)

[OmniCloud]

My god this site is going to shit. This is an awsome feature. Try to think about a average person. Their are more people that could give a flying fuck about games than their are that do. I don't care what games are released some people WILL NOT PLAY GAMES. Lately this site has been nothing but a piss on the PS3 portol. If the god damn PS3/PSP fans can not accept that somthing like this is a great feature then how the hell is the average consumer going to. Most of you fuckers have got to realize that if Sony would have taken more advantage of the multimedia of both consoles they would be doing worlds better. I can not count the number of times people that have no interest in games get all exited for the PSP or PS3, and then they ask so does it work with iTunes? No they do not currently use iTunes or an equvalent. And then people loose intrest. This site rally needs to grow the fuck up and start accepting ideas beyond just games. The PS3/PSP are beyond that. Sony said this right in their god dam marketing. With that I end my rant and my time with PSInext.well if you read ANY post in this thread, you'd see that the majority of posters disagreeing with Cliffbo said that this is a cool feature, but just don't think it will fly systems off the shelf. I don't even know what your talking about after that? There's been nothing but Uncharted praise, Resistance 2/LBP hype and a bunch of happy PS3 owner's rant for the past few weeks for me:shrug:

For this to be a "system selling" feature. Blu-ray would have to take off a lot more than it is now. It would kinda have to sell what 5X as much. Then with millions upon millions of people that own multiple blu-ray movies, Sony can do an advertisement with the PSP like "hey, buy one of these and take your blu-ray collection with you on the go!".

But it's simply not there right now. Like why is that so hard to get:huh: No one is overlooking this feature, but it's not the second coming of Christ for Sony's little system either. It may or may not ever get to that point.

There's no need for a lock, users need to really start respecting each other more and reading each other's post (with comprehension) fully, and disagreeing in a respectful manner...

[venomv]

For this to be a "system selling" feature. Blu-ray would have to take off a lot more than it is now. It would kinda have to sell what 5X as much. Then with millions upon millions of people that own multiple blu-ray movies, Sony can do an advertisement with the PSP like "hey, buy one of these and take your blu-ray collection with you on the go!".

The pole isn't really about whether the feature is a "sytem seller", the title says "help sell" they are to different things. While I would be extremely suprised if this sells a lot of systems alone, it could be the final push for someone who is almost ready to buy one for other reasons.

[LaLiLuLeLo]

I grow tired of this squabble.