View Full Version : Spoilers - Confirmed Characters List
Mirai
01-29-2008, 01:47 PM
Okay, if you wish to avoid spoilers, avoid this thread. This is for characters whom we can safely assume are confirmed.
It's getting a bit hard to keep up with the overflow of information coming through, so I think we should use this thread as a quick means of keep track.
This is the final roster folks. All credible sources indicate this is the final roster in Super Smash Bros. Brawl, so please brace yourselves.
Confirmed by Smash Bros. Dojo
VETERANS
Mario
Link
Kirby
Pikachu
Fox
Samus/Zero Suit Samus
Zelda/Sheik
Bowser
Donkey Kong
Peach
Yoshi
Ice Climbers
Ness
Marth
Luigi
Falco
Captain Falcon
NEWCOMERS
Pit
Wario
Ike
Pokemon Trainer
Meta Knight
Diddy Kong
Snake
Lucas
Sonic
King Dedede
Captain Olimar
Confirmed by Screen Shots
VETERANS
Mr. Game and Watch
Source 1 (http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg181/xblah/ssbm/1201606859663.jpg) | Source 2 (http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg181/xblah/ssbm/1201606911296.jpg) | Source 3 (http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh286/KazeSSBB/uporg1224190.jpg) | Source 4 (http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh286/KazeSSBB/vlphp130224.jpg)
Ganondorf
Source 1 (http://ranobe.com/up/src/up253897.jpg) | Source 2 (http://forums.e-mpire.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=9348&d=1201624404) | Source 3 (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v413/sacredskullkid/1201643102571.jpg)
Jigglypuff
Source 1 (http://gonintendo.com/wp-content/photos/2008_01_21_1_.jpg)
NEWCOMERS
Lucario
Source 1 (http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg181/xblah/ssbm/1201604604285.jpg) | Source 2 (http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg181/xblah/ssbm/1201604539895.jpg) | Source 3 (http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg181/xblah/ssbm/1201605053459.jpg) | Source 4 (http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg181/xblah/ssbm/up253935bq6.jpg) | Source 5 (http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh286/KazeSSBB/vlphp130224.jpg) | Source 6 (http://youtube.com/watch?v=UI0hWkfjFJM)
R.O.B.
Source 1 (http://forums.e-mpire.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=9347&d=1201624404) | Source 2 (http://youtube.com/watch?v=UI0hWkfjFJM)
Toon Link
Source 1 (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v413/sacredskullkid/1201628913117.jpg) | Source 2 (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v413/sacredskullkid/1201628590901.jpg) | Source 3 (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v413/sacredskullkid/1201628940858.jpg)
Wolf
Source 1 (http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/455/1201682214109cg4.jpg) | Source 2 (http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/9885/1201682173878vx4.jpg)
http://i26.tinypic.com/ngk10.jpg
FINAL COUNT:
35 Playable Characters
SuperLuigiBros
01-29-2008, 01:55 PM
Throw Luigi on there. And as far as I know Game and Watch is in some screenshots, but not specifically as a playable character.
SuperLuigiBros
01-29-2008, 01:58 PM
Game and Watch: http://www.uploda.org/uporg1224187.jpg
He could just be in the story mode as a friend or something. Probably not, but y'know.
Also Bomberman, if this is real:
http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/8493/brawlxu6.png
Luigi's on there too if you wanted confirmation.
Dee Dubya, I'm going to go ahead and add some more people we seem to have found screenshots of. You can remove them if you don't think it's enough evidence or whatever.
Skull Kid
01-29-2008, 07:28 PM
WW Link
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v413/sacredskullkid/1201628913117.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v413/sacredskullkid/1201628590901.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v413/sacredskullkid/1201628940858.jpg
SuperLuigiBros
01-29-2008, 09:04 PM
Holy fucking shit! Yes! This has totally made my day. That level looks awesome and more importantly ww Link looks amazing.
*excitement*
I decided that the Bomberman pic looks photoshopped, so you might want to take it down or put a note next to it saying 'maybe'
koten
01-29-2008, 09:13 PM
I don't believe the "Toon Link". It doesn't make any sense. Why would they call him "Toon". He's not a cartoon character. Perhaps if he was titled "Young Link" I would find it more believeable considering all of his young apperances lately have been in that style, but not "Toon".
Sow what you're saying is that you don't believe the screenshots SK posted are real? They would call him "toon link" because very few casual players will know what "cel-shaded" means, and just "young link" isn't specific enough, since there's multiple versions of young link.
koten
01-29-2008, 09:23 PM
I don't know. It's certainly possible that they were photoshoped. Then again it could be poor translation. I don't know. I just am certain that he can't be called "Toon Link". It just doesn't make sense.
Hisham
01-29-2008, 09:36 PM
ROFL!
ROB LMAOOOO HAHAHAHA.
Okay, I'm done.
Blaksmoke
01-29-2008, 09:38 PM
In Japan, Charizard is called Lizardon, Bowser is called Koopa, etc. The Wind Waker Link screens are real.
And yeah...ROB seems like a waste of slot that could've gone to someone else.
Shoelace
01-29-2008, 10:46 PM
http://img129.imageshack.us/img129/3636/finalrosteruh5.jpg
That looks to be the final roster right here. Star Wolf looks confirmed now. By the way, the Bomber Man is a fake screen I think.
Yeah, that does look fake. lol. After looking at it, that Star Wolf is fake. lol. Anyways, it is just photoshoped with the real picture that I didn't post. Geez, people are quick. But so far, there is only one more space to fit a character now. Unless they squeeze 4 more. But it looks like this may be the final characters minus Star Wolf.
But the way, who didn't call Captain Falcon's Final Smash. XD
Skull Kid
01-29-2008, 10:55 PM
I don't think the picture of Wolf is real. It looks almost identical to one I saw before. I think it's the model from Assault.
Anyway, new ingame picture of Ganondorf:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v413/sacredskullkid/1201643102571.jpg
Mirai
01-29-2008, 11:22 PM
I think we need a little more confirmation for Bomberman. That pic is questionable at best. I'll remove him from the list for the time being.
Phoenix
01-29-2008, 11:45 PM
I think charcaters aside from Lucario, Jigglypuff and Ness should be listed separately, because they are from unofficial sources. I refuse to believe 100% that any of the others are real (except maybe Marth, since it takes a ton of effort to fake a video like that), even though the screenshots are good evidence towards them. I am less willing to believe Wolf and ROB, since their screenshots could have easily been faked.
Where are all these screenshots coming from?
Blaksmoke
01-30-2008, 12:11 AM
http://www.enregistrersous.com/images2/99357669420080129184732.jpg
Haha, I like how ROB's japanese name is just "Robot."
Shoelace
01-30-2008, 12:24 AM
http://ranobe.com/up/src/up254065.jpg <-- This is the screen of the unofficial list of characters. And yeah, the Star Wolf one was photoshoped from this one.
Phoenix
01-30-2008, 12:32 AM
That list is OK. I wouldn't mind it being real, but I'm kind of hoping they don't make ROB playable. Replace him with Krystal and I'm as happy as a Clampearl.
...But then again, the chances of a faked list varying from the real one by one character are rather slim.
IEatFriedPikmin
01-30-2008, 01:16 AM
Olimar, Ness, Cpt Falcon, and DK... all I need.
Phoenix
01-30-2008, 01:21 AM
I am utterly disappointed by the inclusion of Game & Watch and ROB (who would have made a great Assist Trophy or item) and the exclusion of Krystal. The novelty of having ROB wore off after Mario Kart. He was a cool surprise, but not worth being a Nintendo mainstay. G&W, to be fair, at least was an important Nintendo character.
But oh well, you can't have them all. I am excited about the rest of the list.
Teh Roxor!
01-30-2008, 01:40 AM
Joystiq posted this and said it was a Subspace Emissary Robot. Anyone who's played Mother 3 knows that's untrue. ;)
http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.joystiq.com/media/2008/01/ssbbsubspacespider.jpg
That's fucking cool in a way I'm sure almost none of you appreciate.
Mother 3 Spoiler
It's the very old Pokey.
http://walkthrough.starmen.net/mother3/image/enemies/sprites/pokey{1}.png
Shadow Voa
01-30-2008, 04:14 AM
No more godamn furries... besides 34 confirmed characters is quite enough. No Mega Man or Geno but that's cool anyways since this list is more then good.
Phoenix
01-30-2008, 04:46 AM
No more godamn furries...I had a dream, that my thirty-odd fighters would be judged not by the texture of their skin, but by the content of their fighting style!besides 34 confirmed characters is quite enough.True, but more never hurts anyone, does it?No Mega Man or Geno but that's cool anyways since this list is more then good.Yeah, that's a shame, but it is still pretty good. I was also kind of hoping for one more third party character, because having just Sonic and Snake is kind of weird.
Shadow Voa
01-30-2008, 06:15 AM
Gotta save some for Smash Bros 4 like 5 years from now ;)
bobo_ess
01-30-2008, 07:24 AM
Chrono would have been a cool character
Shadow Voa
01-30-2008, 08:15 AM
Gotta save some for Smash Bros 4 like 5 years from now ;)
For Crono and the Blue Bomber.
Mirai
01-30-2008, 08:17 AM
R.O.B, Captain Falcon and Lucario are confirmed good and proper...
http://youtube.com/watch?v=UI0hWkfjFJM
SuperLuigiBros
01-30-2008, 09:07 AM
Im glad Starwolf is fake. We dont need him if we've got Fox and Falco. We need Isaac or Megaman or someone equally awesome.
True, but more never hurts anyone, does it?
It would hurt me if they included Krystal.
Skull Kid
01-30-2008, 10:00 AM
The title screen shows Konami and Sega credited for characters. No one else is listed, which means no other 3rd party characters. Unless they have another character from Sega or Konami, which I would doubt.
Mirai
01-30-2008, 10:29 AM
Wolf... confirmed?
http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/455/1201682214109cg4.jpg
http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/9885/1201682173878vx4.jpg
SuperLuigiBros
01-30-2008, 10:58 AM
Omg I was wrong! Hmm... Now there are 3 people with the same Final Smash. I hope his moveset is really different.
SuperLuigiBros
01-30-2008, 11:24 AM
http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/455/1201682214109cg4.jpg
http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg181/xblah/ssbm/1201607069756.jpg
Well we know the Falco one is real... Hmm... I was reading somewhere that the Wolf pics are fake and that it was photoshopped from one of the Falco pics. :shrug:
Delirious
01-30-2008, 01:48 PM
Falco will still pwn them both. Well as long as im the one playing that is.
Shoelace
01-30-2008, 02:28 PM
Looks like Star Wolf is confirmed to me:
http://i25.tinypic.com/33uvomx.jpg
The Final Roster:
http://i30.tinypic.com/2u56n0w.jpg
I know a lot of people including me are hoping for 4 more secret characters, but this does look like the official list. 14 new characters for Brawl (New as in not in Melee), that is a great list in my opinion. Still wanted Mega Man and Isaac, but what can you do. XD
SuperLuigiBros
01-30-2008, 02:38 PM
It does look like all the characters are there. But in that other thread theres a picture which makes me think there could be more... Some of the characters in Brawl required you to play for like 20 hours or something. The game isnt even out yet, so it would be pretty difficult to do a similar task in the amount of time they had it for... But its just me being hopeful for more.
Phoenix
01-30-2008, 02:40 PM
I don't believe those Wolf pictures. They're too easy to make...
nayrk
01-30-2008, 03:11 PM
I still really hope for Alucard or Simon Belmont...
Hisham
01-30-2008, 06:35 PM
True, but more never hurts anyone, does it?
It could, but I won't get into that...
Screw Megaman, if Capcom were to lend a character, it should be Zero! He'd fit better in Smash IMO.
Blaksmoke
01-30-2008, 07:19 PM
It's safe to say that Wolf is official, and I think it's also safe to say that I'm disappointed in his inclusion. There's only been one great StarFox game ever made, and the series still gets three representatives? Bah.
koten
01-30-2008, 08:19 PM
StarFox for the SNES and StarFox 64. That's two by my count.
Teh Roxor!
01-30-2008, 08:32 PM
StarFox for the SNES and StarFox 64. That's two by my count.
I was going to say, yes, two that nearly everyone liked, and a few others of varying quality. The one on the DS isn't bad.
It does seem strange, though, that there are three characters in this game from a series that Nintendo doesn't seem to care much for. The last time they touched it themselves was in 1998.
Phoenix
01-30-2008, 10:33 PM
Yes, and also three very similar characters from the same game. Heck, Mario, Luigi and Wario are fairly unique compared to Fox, Falco and (I assume) Wolf, and they're from a much more popular franchise.It could, but I won't get into that...
Screw Megaman, if Capcom were to lend a character, it should be Zero! He'd fit better in Smash IMO.The whole balance thing? I considered mentioning that, but I decided against it. One more character could only disrupt competitive play if (s)he had more potential than the other characters. Otherwise (s)he would just either increase the number of common tournament characters or be used only in casual play, neither of which would be more harmful than not including one more character in the first place.
Mirai
01-30-2008, 11:18 PM
So it appears this is the final roster. However, at this point, there is some debate as to whether there may be more characters to unlock, as no one has seen a "All Characters Unlocked" message like in Melee.
Wishful thinking perhaps?
Phoenix
01-30-2008, 11:23 PM
Indeed. I'll believe the 34, but anyone beyond those I'm skeptical about.
chocokrisp
01-30-2008, 11:28 PM
R.O.B. and "Toon" Link are a real disappointment. Especially since Mewtwo and Roy were cut. Now I have to find a new favorite character.
Phoenix
01-30-2008, 11:33 PM
You could always give Lucario, Marth or Ike a try. :)
chocokrisp
01-30-2008, 11:50 PM
Well, yeah, besides the disappointment of losing Mewtwo/Pichu/Roy and getting some retarded LoZ character, I'm pretty happy with the newer editions, especially Lucario and Sonic.
SuperLuigiBros
01-31-2008, 12:17 AM
Mewtwo, Pichu and Roy were gay. Especially Mewtwo... and especially Pichu.
Toon Link was my most wanted character so Im extremely pleased by his inclusion. ROB reminds me of Game and Watch for Melee. He's in there for novelty, and as such he'll be fun to play.
So it appears this is the final roster. However, at this point, there is some debate as to whether there may be more characters to unlock, as no one has seen a "All Characters Unlocked" message like in Melee.
Wishful thinking perhaps?
I posted in the other thread my theory of why there are more characters to come. If that threads dying maybe ill post it in here.
Phoenix
01-31-2008, 12:21 AM
Mewtwo, Pichu and Roy were gay. Especially Mewtwo... and especially Pichu.
Toon Link was my most wanted character so Im extremely pleased by his inclusion. ROB reminds me of Game and Watch for Melee. He's in there for novelty, and as such he'll be fun to play.
I posted in the other thread my theory of why there are more characters to come. If that threads dying maybe ill post it in here.Mewtwo is genderless, Roy marries a woman at the end of his game (possibly a really cute half-dragon), and Pichu is unable to mate with anything on its own accord. :)
I think Wind Waker Link is a cool addition, but I'm not sure he's as worthy as an entirely new character. At least he beats regular Young Link, that's for sure.
Shadow Voa
01-31-2008, 12:26 AM
Sakurai is so full of shit honestly... he shouldve renamed this game Super Smash Bros. Brawl: Attack of the Clones.
Three fucking SF characters... and they are all the same... Fox is fast, Falco is medium, and Wolf is strong. AND THE SAME FS too?!!! Godamn, lazy bullshit.
Phoenix
01-31-2008, 12:28 AM
I agree. If they were going with Star Fox characters, might as well go with a certain character who'll be less clone-like...
http://www.sectorn.net/articulos/biografias/bio-img/slippy.jpg
Seriously, though, don't count on Wolf being real.
SuperLuigiBros
01-31-2008, 12:29 AM
Mewtwo is genderless, Roy marries a woman at the end of his game (possibly a really cute half-dragon), and Pichu is unable to mate with anything on its own accord. :)
And yet they all still manage to be gay.
I think Wind Waker Link is a cool addition, but I'm not sure he's as worthy as an entirely new character. At least he beats regular Young Link, that's for sure.
He's awesome! I saw a movie of him on youtube and although he has the same 'moves' as link, they are all very different compared to normal Link. Theres a much larger difference between Link and Toon Link in Brawl than there was a difference between Link and Young Link in Melee. Ill bet they have different final smashes, too.
Edit:
FeeIYr5wW78
Also while Im here ill spam this picture.
http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h217/Maxo1128/WTFGENO-1.png
Go read my theory in the other thread and talk about it!
Edit2: I would have loved to have Slippy in Brawl.
Blaksmoke
01-31-2008, 12:36 AM
Phoenix, Wolf is 100% confirmed.
And I have to admit I'm a tad disappointed at the final roster, but that's mainly because I hyped it up in my head. At least I got Diddy and Sonic, who were both at the top of my list.
Phoenix
01-31-2008, 12:37 AM
Confirmed past the few vague screenshots? Show me some good ones and I'll believe it.
Blaksmoke
01-31-2008, 12:47 AM
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Phoenix
01-31-2008, 12:59 AM
Well I'll be damned. Clone or not, he's still really similar to Fox, which makes me ask, why?
But it also means that the list might not be complete. Sadly, though, I doubt it. It makes nice, neat rows as is.
I've gotta say, Phoenix, you've been extremely cynical about this character list.
Also, I've already seen a screenshot that said the player had "unlocked everything." So yes, we've seen the full character list. This is it. Yes, it sucks that they basically have two Fox clones, but I suppose that's better than having a Fox clone and a Captain Falcon clone and a Link clone and a Mario Clone.
Phoenix
01-31-2008, 01:03 AM
I am assuming conservatively. I prefer to find a character confirmed that I thought was fake over finding a character to be fake that I was excited about.
Blaksmoke
01-31-2008, 01:05 AM
I'm a tad bummed about the roster, but as a soundtrack geek, this looks like it could be one of the best games ever, despite the fact that there seem to be far less orchestrated tracks than in Melee.
^Very true. Nintendo definitely needs to release a full soundtrack for this game.
Brady
01-31-2008, 01:26 AM
I think Nintendo should cut Jigglypuff just to piss chocokrisp off.
That aside, Toon Link and Lucario look great. I'm glad to see Marth returning but I would have liked to see Mewtwo come back too, only more useful. What's with the single most badass pokemon getting pummeled by everything?
Rob is neat, but I think he would have made a better assist trophy than a playable character. I'm going out on a limb here and saying that Rob, Game & Watch and Wolf are wasted slots...
Speaking of assist trophies, I'm hoping there will be many more than the confirmed list. Knuckles, Krystal, Paper Mario (these first three would have been good playables), Ridley, Metal Gear Rex/Ray, maybe even Dr. Mario. He could just throw a screenfull of pills at everyone and run away like some sort of kamikaze drug addict.
Brady
01-31-2008, 01:27 AM
I'm a tad bummed about the roster, but as a soundtrack geek, this looks like it could be one of the best games ever, despite the fact that there seem to be far less orchestrated tracks than in Melee.
I'm going to miss the Fountain of Dreams theme...
Phoenix
01-31-2008, 01:32 AM
I think Nintendo should cut Jigglypuff just to piss chocokrisp off.
That aside, Toon Link and Lucario look great. I'm glad to see Marth returning but I would have liked to see Mewtwo come back too, only more useful. What's with the single most badass pokemon getting pummeled by everything?
Rob is neat, but I think he would have made a better assist trophy than a playable character. I'm going out on a limb here and saying that Rob, Game & Watch and Wolf are wasted slots...
Speaking of assist trophies, I'm hoping there will be many more than the confirmed list. Knuckles, Krystal, Paper Mario (these first three would have been good playables), Ridley, Metal Gear Rex/Ray, maybe even Dr. Mario. He could just throw a screenfull of pills at everyone and run away like some sort of kamikaze drug addict.I would be very surprised if Knuckles (and/or Tails), Krystal, some form of Metal Gear, and Ridley are not at least Assist Trophies or bosses, but then again, my guessing has not been very good with this stuff.
SuperLuigiBros
01-31-2008, 02:31 AM
Paper Mario better be an assist trophy. I wanted him as a playable character, but oh well. I want to see Andy or Max or someone cool from advance wars in all their pixelated glory. Isaac better show up as a trophy at the very least.
edit:
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f351/RyderEXE/krystalbrawlcameo.jpg
There you go Phoenix. Shes at least in the game.
Shadow Voa
01-31-2008, 03:42 AM
I've gotta say, Phoenix, you've been extremely cynical about this character list.
Also, I've already seen a screenshot that said the player had "unlocked everything." So yes, we've seen the full character list. This is it. Yes, it sucks that they basically have two Fox clones, but I suppose that's better than having a Fox clone and a Captain Falcon clone and a Link clone and a Mario Clone.
Yeah... they got one of those... I even heard he rides in his own Land Master as well for his FS. I hope they confirm Land Master as a playable character in Smash 4.
http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q239/Ezduo/1201723769665.jpg
SuperLuigiBros
01-31-2008, 03:56 AM
^Lol. I like how they didnt even try to make it look real with the default font.
Shoelace
01-31-2008, 04:41 AM
So it appears this is the final roster. However, at this point, there is some debate as to whether there may be more characters to unlock, as no one has seen a "All Characters Unlocked" message like in Melee.
Wishful thinking perhaps?
Actually, I have seen the Japanese "All Characters Unlocked" screen from the same people with the Star Wolf shots. I will see if I can find it, but holy smokes there is a lot of threads of SSBB on that site. lol
Also, right when Star Wolf is unlocked, All-Star Mode was unlocked which in Melee only came out once all of the characters were unlocked.
Edit: Here is the picture:
http://i31.tinypic.com/m7swuw.jpg
a literal translation is
"You're now able to use all of the characters!
The real battle is from here on out!"
Teh Roxor!
01-31-2008, 05:05 AM
I get the feeling I'm the only one not disappointed by the roster. Even my house mate is whining about it. I never expected much more than 35 characters.
Why the hell are people whining about final smashes? In Melee, you didn't even have them.
Phoenix
01-31-2008, 05:08 AM
Because it's so close to perfect that we're frustrated that it's not quite there.
Blaksmoke
01-31-2008, 05:47 AM
Because it's so close to perfect that we're frustrated that it's not quite there.
Creating a balanced fighting system in a game with 30+ characters (each with different movesets) is tough enough, so I'd imagine that's at least part of the reason for the semi-clone nature of Ganondorf, Toon Link, Falco and Wolf.
But Wolf can still blow me.
Shadow Voa
01-31-2008, 05:49 AM
Yeah pretty much sums up my feelings, where the fuck was my Geno?!!
SAUKRAIIIIIIIIIIIII!!!!!
Teh Roxor!
01-31-2008, 05:50 AM
I think it was unreasonable to ever expect Geno.
Phoenix
01-31-2008, 05:53 AM
Expect, yes.
Suspect, no. I think that's perfectly reasonable.
Shadow Voa
01-31-2008, 07:20 AM
Oh youre just happy you got lots of Earthbound 3 goodness including the Porky boss fight....
Mirai
01-31-2008, 07:36 AM
Well, personally I expected a mimimum of 32.
http://forums.e-mpire.com/showpost.php?p=1721940&postcount=1530
So yeah, 35 is great to me.
What I find hilarious is people would be less pissed off if we got 34 characters without Wolf instead of 35 characters with Wolf. Where's the logic? Has it occurred that he may play an important part in the Supspace Emissary's storyline?
Or he may actually be a meaningful addition to the roster? If it had have been Geno with the exact same moves just dressed up people would be praising Sakurai for it...
Also, on a side note, Falco has been Luigified. Apparently almost all of his specials have changed to some degree, as have many of his smash and standard attacks. This would leave him about as much of a clone of Fox and Luigi was of Mario in Melee.
Of course, I don't remember any bitching about 2 Mario clones back then...
nayrk
01-31-2008, 08:01 AM
Screw Wolf... GIVE ME MY SIMON BELMOT and ALUCARD!!! :emo: :cry:
SuperLuigiBros
01-31-2008, 08:44 AM
I get the feeling I'm the only one not disappointed by the roster. Even my house mate is whining about it. I never expected much more than 35 characters.
Im not disappointed in the least. All the characters I wanted have either been included or were too unreasonable in the first place. I actually like having clones because if you like a characters moveset but think hes too slow or fast or too weak you can choose the other one and he might be better suited to you.
And if Falco has been Luigified then Wolf might be the one to turn to for all of us who played as Falco in Melee.
Or he may actually be a meaningful addition to the roster? If it had have been Geno with the exact same moves just dressed up people would be praising Sakurai for it...
The thing is people want to see their favorite characters. I really wanted to see Toon Link, but I know ill probably end up playing as someone else. I wasnt in any way angry about Wolf's inclusion, but I think they could have put someone cooler in. But since Falco's been Luigified theres a good chance that I may end up playing as Wolf. Err... I dont know what point i was trying to make. I guess that people just want to see their favorite characters... but in the end it doesnt really matter. (I agree with you)
Phoenix
01-31-2008, 08:49 AM
Yeah, it has to do greatly with wanting to see some of our favorite characters. I'll admit I'm a bit fanboyish with that, which explains my disappointment.
SuperLuigiBros
01-31-2008, 08:59 AM
I think we've been focusing on the characters alone a bit too much these past few days. I keep myself in check by thinking back to before everything started leaking and i got super hyped up by all this awesome new stuff that would be in Brawl. Once we get the game we'll all realise that the character roster is bigger and better than Melee's and then we'll start to notice all the awesome new modes and forget about what could have been and instead focus on the upgrades.
Mirai
01-31-2008, 10:13 AM
In that light however...
WOLF IS PIMP!
Delirious
01-31-2008, 11:34 AM
I think we've been focusing on the characters alone a bit too much these past few days. I keep myself in check by thinking back to before everything started leaking and i got super hyped up by all this awesome new stuff that would be in Brawl. Once we get the game we'll all realise that the character roster is bigger and better than Melee's and then we'll start to notice all the awesome new modes and forget about what could have been and instead focus on the upgrades.
Agreed, Im happy with 35. In fact Im extremely happy. Add that to all of the new items, modes, online play, music, and everything else and you have quite possibly the best fighting game ever made. We're all going to be enjoying this one for years and years to come. God Im glad Im a gamer.
Mirai
01-31-2008, 11:40 AM
If anyone can show me a fighting game with more variety I'll... Still buy Smash Bros...
GTShotoKen
01-31-2008, 04:15 PM
Are there any YouTube videos (or videos in general) of someone demonstrating Ganondorf's move set?
I've heard that the brawl devs didn't give him a sword this time either.
Blaksmoke
01-31-2008, 07:08 PM
Well, personally I expected a mimimum of 32.
http://forums.e-mpire.com/showpost.php?p=1721940&postcount=1530
So yeah, 35 is great to me.
What I find hilarious is people would be less pissed off if we got 34 characters without Wolf instead of 35 characters with Wolf. Where's the logic? Has it occurred that he may play an important part in the Supspace Emissary's storyline?
Or he may actually be a meaningful addition to the roster? If it had have been Geno with the exact same moves just dressed up people would be praising Sakurai for it...
Also, on a side note, Falco has been Luigified. Apparently almost all of his specials have changed to some degree, as have many of his smash and standard attacks. This would leave him about as much of a clone of Fox and Luigi was of Mario in Melee.
Of course, I don't remember any bitching about 2 Mario clones back then...
If the final character revealed was Sonic in stead of Wolf, the entire internet would implode with sheer joy. It's just anticlimactic more than anything else.
And I haven't found anything in-depth involving Ganondorf yet.
GTShotoKen
01-31-2008, 07:22 PM
If the final character revealed was Sonic in stead of Wolf, the entire internet would implode with sheer joy. It's just anticlimactic more than anything else.
I pretty much agree. Though, Rob the Robot is still came completely out of left field (I don't think many people were clamouring for him though lol).
And I haven't found anything in-depth involving Ganondorf yet.
Thanks anyways. :)
By the way, for any of the hardcore smash players; I was wanting to find out if L canceling has officially been removed due to the change in the physics engine?
I never cared for it much in the first place, but I know alot of hardcore players lived and breathed by it in Melee.
bobo_ess
01-31-2008, 07:28 PM
^ oh god the L cancel
Dakota Grabowski
01-31-2008, 10:08 PM
I wanted to see more villains in the game. King K. Rool was one of those I wanted to see.
Shadow Voa
02-01-2008, 02:29 AM
Wolf is a joke and as I said 34 was fine by me, no matter Im going to beat the living day lights out of Wolf, G&W and ROB (though he is looking really OP from what Ive seen).
ScratchedAt
02-02-2008, 02:09 AM
You wou;ld've thought that the first post of this thread would be updated with the confirmed.. pft.
Mirai
02-02-2008, 02:26 AM
What do you mean ScratchedAt?
ScratchedAt
02-02-2008, 05:49 PM
Now that I think it over, I could be wrong tho.
Could be a whole different thread in itself..
Most of the characters are confirmed.. but not on the first post of this thread, maybe edit it and update it?
Or maybe I was thinking of making a more complete spoiler list on a different thread...
Eh.. too lazy.
All the characters are confirmed on the first post of this thread...
SuperLuigiBros
02-02-2008, 11:44 PM
How did you know the full roster before everything started being leaked, Zeep?
i didn't. i just knew it before most of the leaking occurred.
alternate answer(s): i'm psychic/holding Sakurai prisoner/a genius/Sakurai himself.
Mirai
02-03-2008, 06:09 AM
Now that I think it over, I could be wrong tho.
Could be a whole different thread in itself..
Most of the characters are confirmed.. but not on the first post of this thread, maybe edit it and update it?
Or maybe I was thinking of making a more complete spoiler list on a different thread...
Eh.. too lazy.
The entire roster is confirmed in the first post. Has been for a while...
ScratchedAt
02-04-2008, 12:44 AM
My apologies. The ones that I thought were missing were just messy with the "Source 1" and such not and so forth. God I need some attention paying skills.
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