Metal Gear Online 1.20 - Meme Expansion out NOW!

[Kiosko]

I had mine the first time the site started the beta registration.

Konami ID: listeningninja
Game ID: maestroh

[Jay Gee]

There's a vid for the character creation element in MGO:

http://www.gamersyde.com/news_6351_en.html
Damn, I can't wait till classes are over so I can rape this game...or vice versa. :o

EDIT:
konami id: gibbshift
game id: jaygee_mgo

I'm good to go. I'll also be the first to admit that I was having some trouble setting up my ID tonight until I READ that the name's had to be in lowercase. *headdesk*

Reading, ppl...It's fucking fundamental. *thumbs up*

[LiquidEagle]

:lol: yeah, I kept trying uppercase stuff too... these IDs aren't terribly userfriendly so far (understatement), so they damn well better have some benefits.

[err_ok]

FINALLY i get registered....

... oh wait i'm unable to connect to server....cries....

As a temporary measure, we will be deferring the European public beta test and start it once we stabilize our server.

Oh...

[Passive]

The server opens back up on Friday folks.

just so you know.

[Matt]

Oh well, guess we'll have to find something else to do this week.

[Z]

they made a web-page that work now. I just registered a US account.
https://id.konami.net/mgo/selectCountry.jsp

good luck.

PS. where is my voucher code located?
PPS. so MGO isn't on the US store. I d/l from the EU one. do I have to get an EU account to play it? also. would that version work later for my US log-in or would I have to download another version for the US store?


I haven't been part of this mess from the beginning., so excuse me. cheers.

[ddaryl]

^^^^


your voucher code is in the DVD that you recieved when you pre-ordered. If you didn't pre-order you need to, if you did and didn't recieve your DVD with the Metal gear backstory then you need to go get it from where ever you pre-ordered.

[Z]

I didn't pre-order (officially, I got my copy pre-ordered from some store on eBay ;p ).

Edit; I think I read somewhere it was a Gamestop offer only, right? ah, why even bother. I just saw the EU game on PSN and something clicked inside me when I saw the words 'Metal Gear' that I had to d/l it. well, that was a waste of bandwidth...

again, I'll just wait for my packaged game and see what they put in it. i hate messy stuff.

[Sephiroth_VII]

Just play the open EU beta, what harm could come from it?

[Leedogg]

Just play the open EU beta, what harm could come from it?

^thats what I did ;) dled the beta from my EU psn account, and just created a USA konami id

Konami Id: leedogg8
Game Id: leedogg3

[Passive]

Just play the open EU beta, what harm could come from it?

none.

[Z]

ah, i thought there only pre-order betas only. then I'll upgrade my version and play with my US account.

strange, i thought they wouldn't allow US accounts to play the EU version. O_o

[Sephiroth_VII]

Worst case scenario is that you create a European ID, but it's a region-free beta, so it should work.

[KnightRiderX]

well here it is...

konami id: knightriderx85
game id: knightriderx

that all-lowercaps also got me for some time lol.

[³¹¹]

PSN: R11NE
Game ID: goldilax

[Z]

okay, so we now wait for the start of the beta in the 25th, right?

also, would either our Konami or Gamer IDs appear as our character names in the actual gameplay? cus i think I read one of the instructions saying I have to, yet again, create a new name for my character once the game starts...

[warmachine]

MGO Jokes (http://www.gametrailers.com/player/usermovies/206438.html?playlist=featured) (gameplay video)

[LiquidEagle]

:lol: can't wait!

[Segitz]

MGO Jokes (http://www.gametrailers.com/player/usermovies/206438.html?playlist=featured) (gameplay video)

Man, I laughed my ass off^^

Great vid!!

[Passive]

Click here for a massive load of MGO gameplay clips. (14 clips), the character creation clip and a control scheme clip. (http://manu4life.gametrailers.com/gamepad/index.php?action=fanmovs)

enjoy. i am lol. (pity about the average quality though but still CLIPS!!)

[ddaryl]

Can't wait to frack people up on Friday... My Metal Gear itch needs to be scratched...

[Omegacell]

Just went on to check MGO and there's a new patch up for download. It modifies the way in which the beta client connects to the servers. I am 67% done^_^

[PSXBatou]

Just went on to check MGO and there's a new patch up for download.

So they make us wait for the demo to start because they couldn't calculate server resources and bandwidth properly, and then make us wait more by putting up another download that will take forever?

I LOVE YOU KONAMI!!!

[Omegacell]

So they make us wait for the demo to start because they couldn't calculate server resources and bandwidth properly, and then make us wait more by putting up another download that will take forever?

I LOVE YOU KONAMI!!!
If it helps the download of this patch was finished in 5 mins instead of 4 hours lol.

[Passive]

Um... where is this patch? :S i didnt get it.

[solidsnakejej]

It seems to be selective. I got it but some people haven't.

[Passive]

Hmm well that really sucks =[ wonder how long its gonna take for them to get around to me.

[solidsnakejej]

I'm just hoping it works tomorrow cause I really want to play.


Home vs. the MGO Beta... the race is on!

[Passive]

As do i. Very, very much so. and we should have been playing by now anyway.

[Shadow Voa]

Patch 1.02 is here and away we go!! *downloads praying for speed this time*

Edit: Woah jesus... its at 20% and I just started!!!

[LaLiLuLeLo]

So...anyone else staying up until 3am EST to try and play? >_>

[LiquidEagle]

So...anyone else staying up until 3am EST to try and play? >_>

mwahahaha, so good to be on the West coast!!!

[Jay Gee]

Damn, I was just about download some jp porn, but now I have to stay up till three and see if the servers come up. Thanks, Lali. Now I'll have to let the porn download while I'm at work.:(

EDIT:
Almost 3:30 over here on the East Coast and I'm still getting that server error. Looks like I'll have something to look forward to once I get home.

[LaLiLuLeLo]

Shit still ain't workin. Oh well time for bed.

[Matt]

How big is the update?

[Passive]

hehe its only 7pm here ^^

EDIT: not very big at all matt. around 30mb?

[LiquidEagle]

yeah, it's real quick :-D

[Matt]

Yea, I just downloaded it via http, took a few minutes.

So, weren't the servers supposed to be back up now?

[Segitz]

MGO Online manual now states 26th till 11th... bad luck for us :(

[Olz]

Just downloaded the update. Still get the same old 'cannot connect to server' error. Come on Konami! They need Otacon working for them.

[LiquidEagle]

Yea, I just downloaded it via http, took a few minutes.

So, weren't the servers supposed to be back up now?

No, they go up at midnight on Friday night. It's about 2:45 AM here, so about 21 hours left...

[Matt]

OK. So that'll be 8am here.

*fingers crossed*

[RaginSquirrel]

still cant connect to server wot time they meant to be up at in UK????

[LiquidEagle]

OK. So that'll be 8am here.

*fingers crossed*

still cant connect to server wot time they meant to be up at in UK????

...

[LiquidEagle]

So I'm looking at the skills on the page to try & determine what I should make (you get to pick 4 skills apparently), and I think I'm going to go with:


ASSLT.R MASTERY Skill wielding assault rifles. Reduces recoil when firing and decreases reload time.
FAST MOV Level of agility. Increases movement speed.
SCANNING Skill needed: CQC Press the �� button to inject Scanning Plug S into a captured enemy and display link info. Can share data through SOP.
CQC MASTERY Close quarters combat skill. Press and hold the R1 button to use CQC against nearby enemies.


I'm looking to make a recon/stealthy guy, and I really want to have Scanning, which requires CQC Mastery, and Fast Movement/Assault Mastery just seem like other really solid choices.

[solidsnakejej]

Neogaf is saying it's up for JPN and PAL anyone playing?

[Passive]

I just tried to log on then and instead of the license and agreement page i got a notice page saying that the euro beta has been suspended "until further notice"


EDIT: nevermind that. i just tried it again and bam.... i got in =D later guys im off to play.

[Segitz]

Neogaf is saying it's up for JPN and PAL anyone playing?

Maybe later (around 5ish German Time)

[Passive]

well i was gonna play -.- but i got shaped (net has been slowed) and wont be sped back up until the 4th for me... so looks like im out for the BETA guys >.< someone else will have to register the clan name. unless i raise my net cap which will cos me $150 a month :P

[cliffbo]

Maybe later (around 5ish German Time)

yeah it looks like it's up!

Metal Gear Online Beta open early for Europe
News Added: 25 Apr 2008 News Category: Metal Gear Solid Online News By: Furin


It looks as though the Metal Gear Online Beta has been opened early for Europe! I am from the UK and I'm playing it right now. As of yet there are only 3 servers and the training works perfectly to let you get the basics down. Proof pictures on the forums.

http://metalgearsolid4.net/2008/04/25/metal-gear-online-beta-open-early-for-europe.html

[Olz]

Just been doing a bit of training. Awesome stuff.

First impressions:
-Somehow the controls seem slightly different, I guess it's just because there are so many new moves.
-Unless I've missed it there doesn't seem to be a description given with the guns. Choosing an assault rifle or machine gun is pretty self explanatory but with the pistols it is less so.
-Tapping R2 or L2 seems slightly different to previous MGS's as it cycles between weapons rather than selecting/de-selecting a bit like Resistance.
-Awesome graphics, smooth as expected.
-Character creation is really cool. Just a pity you can't not have particular items on e.g. no glasses/headphones/balaclava.
-Loading times minimal. No problems connecting to servers.
-Good music carrying on from the title screen.
-Lots of options to change in terms of controls, connection, speech, keyboard etc.
-Easy to create clans and join them and message other people. I'm just waiting for the PSI one to turn up. Who's gonna make it?

Awesome so far.

[Segitz]

This game is WAY cool!!

But the server just crapped out on me :(

[Nameless]

Since the PS3 is selling best in the UK it's good they are showing you some appreciation...

[cliffbo]

MGO Resolution 665p Equivalent and 30fps

by Patrick Steen on April 25, 2008

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Pixel counters at the ready! There’s been some debate over the final rendering resolution of Metal Gear Solid 4. Screenshot pixel counting has been hazy, so the first sign of a possible resolution is found in the launch of the Metal Gear Online Beta. The Beta has now begun in Europe (yes it’s up, go and play!) and the results are in.

Over at Beyond3d technical forums, resident video game investigator Quaz51 (who also happens to be Eurogamer’s source in their console face-offs), has now proved his suspicions right. MGO renders natively at 1024by768.

This resolution is not 768p as you might suspect, since 1024by768 is not a 16/9 isomorphic resolution. Instead, it’s equivalent resolution (contains the same number of pixels) is 1182by665 - or 665p. It is thus accurate to say MGO renders natively at 665p.

Why this resolution? Rendering at this resolution can aid in post-processing effects, help with tiling through the RSX graphics chip, and also has the advantage of natively supporting 4/3 Standard Definition TV’s. In addition, MGO has been confirmed to run at 30 frames per second.

There have been many “sub-HD” games this generation, from Halo 3 to Call of Duty 4. To most the differences will be negligible and won’t detract from the gameplay experience. Moreover, with MGO offering a higher resolution than the above two games along with 2xAA (gets rid of teh jaggies), you’ll be hard pressed to tell the difference.

It’s still uncertain whether this will be the final native resolution of MGS4. For now, go and enjoy the Beta!

http://www.ripten.com/2008/04/25/mgo-resolution-665p-equivalent-and-30fps/

[Passive]

hmm the very little games ive been able to get into have given me these impressions.

-graphics are pretty damn slick.
-the control system is a little different. Not a fan of the auto aiming system hopefully they will only allow auto aim in auto aim servers.
-it takes way to much to kill when shoting at the chest. waaay to much.


and my biggest fear is confirmed already. no-one will play as a team. at least not for a while and that really cheapens the gameplay imo. just a slow run and gun online shooter. Right now anyway. Hopefully somewhere down the line clans get established, the elite players come out of the woodwork and some good team based online play happens.

As i said i cant really give good impressions right now as i cant really connect to the game =[ stupid internet company. My upload counts to my download usage for some stupid reason and when i downloaded the update i uploaded it to others (due to not having the option of http download). i ended up uploading nearly 2gb when i had 2.5 gb left on my usage cap -.-

[LaLiLuLeLo]

It's finally working for me too. Gonna get some training in before I go to work.

[Jay Gee]

Screw you guys, I don't get off until 5. Fuckers...

[Z]

I played the game. my thoughts:

looks:
the graphics are okay. guess not every game can be as good looking as CoD4 online. but you also have to keep in consideration the 'sleek' art direction of the game. still, I think they could have made it look much, much better.

play:
this is a general 'feature' of 3rd person shooters; they are slow. given that MGO is based on a sneaking concept, it may be acceptable, but for me the gameplay was way too slow. even turning around while aiming and running were too slow.

I was surprised when I first heard they were making a separate MGO offer since I thought who would buy it outside of MG fans- and those will get it with the game. I wouldn't pay a dime for such a game if it wasn't packed in or offered for free. I still think a separate version will fail commercially. but having more options is good, nonetheless.

and my biggest fear is confirmed already. no-one will play as a team.
two things:
- the game is new. this means many goofs and learning will be seen before 'hardcore' games could be found at abundance. I just saw two people firing at each other only 3 feet apart. might as well they've been blind since birth. it was funny seeing it though. my aim is bad as well, mind you, but they weren't even facing each other. lol
- as always, the best team play you can hope for online is with gamers you know. that is why once we have a clan, you can expect much better play experience.

finally, GTA4 is around the corner, I am d/l CoD4 maps and my focus is still on MGS4. all that doesn't let me give this one much thought. I am not logging in any time soon. hope others find it fun.


PS. I am waiting for SOCOM to see how a proper 3rdPS online game should feel like (I didn't get a chance to see GRAW online). if they're all like that, maybe MGO is better than I think it is and I just don't like the genre.

Z sneaking out!

[³¹¹]

I';m in! Doing training now!

[solidsnakejej]

I started playing a game and it froze. My name is the same as PSN so if anyone wants to add and see if we can play together.

[Rapture]

i think this thread is about to get dangerous for me!

the graphics are great but except for the occasional glitch, like enemies clipping through surfaces revealing their position or a bit of flickering on thin walls.

the camera is terrible. it needs a fixed third person camera. going from the free camera to over the shoulder or first person camera causes the game to alig your view to your body, rather than aligning your body to your current view. it is counter intuitive and a real annoyance. trying to use grenades when you're near cover..or anything is impossible. the grenade arc is nice, unfortunately the camera will give you a lovely close-up of player and not let you see where the arc is going with monotonous regularity.

the guns and the killing i think really miss what mgo was going for. there is no slow, methodical, tactical killing. it takes somewhere around 800 bullets to kill something aiming at the chest which nullifies any sort of advantage gained from outpositioning your opponent and the fighting degenerates into a crapshoot of who will get the headshots. the apparent lack of bullet penetration is also troublesome, as is the inability to fire from crouch if you're close to an obstruction approaching your height. then there is the auto-aim. it only works from extremely close range (and apparently smgs outrange assault rifles for aim-assist, who thought that one up?) and once locked you can safely pump bullets into somebody with no fear of missing... once locked. locking the auto-aim is painful as there is no indication of what range it locks at and the issue of aim being based on your player model not your free camera view rears its ugly head. it is incredibly annoying to aim at close range because of this. randomly try to face them with your model, not camera, fail and be in over the shoulder view looking in another direction and turning slowly, release aim and try again. this causes mid-range battles to degenerate into clumsy over the shoulder aim-offs. using first person at any time other than camping is not advised as you pretty much cant move.

the movement is so-so. it is fairly clunky when performing a roll and the lack of a regular jump is painful. that combined with the inability to grab ledges and pull yourself up results in very limited options for movement - but this may just be poor map design.

the non-weapon items dont serve much of a purpose. the advantage of getting the jump on your opponent with a cardboard box is negligable thanks to the issues described in the section above and the drum looks out of place everywhere leaving it resigned to the role of death trap.

the cqc is not user friendly. maybe it is better with levels in the cqc skill? i didnt try it, without it however the 'cqc' with a gun us make a really weak prod with the butt of the gun, which does not so much as knock your opponent over. you are in all cases better off simply shooting your opponent rather than using a gun cqc, regardless of range.

this is all from a casual point of view. perhaps the game is much better in clan play utilising SOP and such. however, for casual gaming i really dont see how this is supposed to attract me away from something like cod. it is clumsy and dull.

[Passive]

GRAW online wasnt much different Z :P

And i know the game if chock full of tards atm which im fine with.

few more things ive picked up on.
- the crosshair is to spaced out for long shots.
- combat rolling and then trying to should aim quickly is impossible as it takes way to long to bring up the shoulder aim.
-the camera isnt very good. even though we have control of it, its still very restricted. i found myself having to break cover to get a better angle.
- doesnt seem to be much diference in the weapons. i used the M4, AK and the p90. and they didnt really feel much different, to me anyway.
- as Z said the game is just too slow, when going into shoulder view it gets even slower which doesnt make alot of sense why not ust keep the same running speed in shoulder view and alter the acuracy of the guns while runing.
- Some of the visuals were a bit of a let down to be honest. but i dont care to elaborate as its a multiplayer :P and when itcomes to those visuals arent what i really care about.

[Jay Gee]

however, for casual gaming i really dont see how this is supposed to attract me away from something like cod. it is clumsy and dull and a beta.
fix'd.

[cliffbo]

i know there are many complaints about the online, but isn't that what Beta is all about :shrug: if it was perfect, there wouldn't be a Beta... so instead of moaning, how about informing :)

[LaLiLuLeLo]

I dunno they seem like well written critiques to me, cliffbo. So far I'm having fun (but I have to get ready for work now >_< ), but I can understand where the other guys are coming from. It does need tuning.

[Passive]

Thank you lali. and Cliff/jay gee... we voice our concerns because its a beta :P its what they are for. not to have a go at the game and wait for the release. its to play it and give feedback about what we think should be changed.

[cliffbo]

Thank you lali. and Cliff/jay gee... we voice our concerns because its a bate :P its what they are for. not to have a go at the game and wait for the release. its to play it and give feedback about what we think should be changed.

yeah, i take your point... my bad, as they say. i just reread what you two wrote and, i was wrong :)

[Rapture]

I dunno they seem like well written critiques to me

bahahaha, really ironic you chose that to describe such horrible, horrible english displayed by both myself and passive. ^_^

thanks for the support at though, just trying to express honest concerns, not bash.

as for your 'comments' jay... there is... no need for that.

[LaLiLuLeLo]

Well, well written might be a misnomer, but they were mature and to the point without being snarky or stupid.

[Passive]

Just hopefully now some of the things get looked at by enough people to be adressed by the MGO dev teams. I, like many others wish this game to be a successful stand alone game but they need to work on it some more before release for that to happen. i mean some of the things Rapture and i pointed out are rather picky as for example the camera. Both he and i play fps multiplayers and arent really all that use to playing with a controlable camera like that so maybe we just fail. But maybe not. It'll be good to see what others think once they have a decent playthrough.

[jaxmkii]

so you guys reay to come back to warhawk?

[³¹¹]

A few gripes. Killing the chest takes wayyyy too long. Yes.

People don't use SOP but that is understandable. It is early I just thought people would want to check it out, I know I did. I find it useful.

When I get CQC'd to the ground, I am automatically ready to aim. This will take some getting used to. Since I always think that I'm dizzy and will just get straight up. But instead I am able to kill the person who just CQC'd me.

The mic usage is soooo low that it's tough to tell people what to do. In the level where you have to take the kerotan to the certain spot, people were just bringing it to the base and sitting there and getting killed.

But it's awesome. Really liking it but wished movement was a little faster and spawn locations were better too.

Also, the square button keeps bugging me. I keep thinking it is still CQC but is now the auto-aim toggler.

BTW, I'm kafka on the beta.

[Gummy]

Mine's updating.... =[

[Nameless]

I played for about an hour and here are my initial thoughts:
Visuals are good considering if you compare to other 3rd person shooters like Warhawk or GRAW, but not on the level of a COD4... The visuals are very crisp and sharp at 1080P.

Sound: disappointing considering all of the acclaim for the sound in the single player campaign the guns sound ok, but nothing special and the player chatter is kind of corny...

Gameplay: This game could use a sprint button or something to speed up the play it just seems slow. Also, the controls are not that smooth for a MP shooter, but it could just take some time to become familiar with the controls in this type of game setting.

Overall at this point I'm disappointed with the experience, because it's just mediocre IMHO. MGS is really known for the story and overall gaming experience and I'm not sure if that translates to an online MP shooter. Perhaps after spending more time and really understanding the teamwork aspects and advanced features of the game I will change my position...

[Olz]

I'm not sure how much difference it makes yet but if you feel it is too slow, there is always the Mov level up which may help a little. Just a thought.

[Leedogg]

I cant connect....... ugh

[cliffbo]

Metal Gear Online Beta now open for the US too
News Added: 25 Apr 2008 News Category: Metal Gear Solid Online News By: Furin


The Metal Gear Online beta is now officially open for the United States as well. To download the beta, US players will require a code which they received after pre-ordering Metal Gear Solid 4.

http://metalgearsolid4.net/category/metal-gear-online-news

[Bsack]

You guys are so lucky. I'm stuck at fricking work!!!

[solidsnakejej]

I like the slow pace. I wish getting into first person was a bit easier. I have fun but I can't get into other modes other then TDM.

[Gegenki]

update just aint moving for me

- <crys a little>

[LiquidEagle]

I'm on too... Solid, what's your name in there?

[solidsnakejej]

I'm on too... Solid, what's your name in there?

It's Solidsnakejej. I'll be back on in a few minutes.

[Matt]

I'll be coming online in about half an hour, should we arrange a match so we can meet up at some point?

[LiquidEagle]

Anybody who wants to play with me, my game ID is johnny.sasaki, my character's name is JohnnySasaki, and I'm on Otacon server :)

[Shadow Voa]

So how are we gonna meet, greet and shoot?

BETA kicks so much ass btw!!

Edit: Damn your game is full Liquid I tried to join.

Names, Shadow_Voa

[Jay Gee]

solidsnakejej
shadow_Voa
shalashaska_psi
johnny.sasaki

I'll be adding you guys this afternoon. My ID is jaygee_mgo. Hope more PSI ppl are playing by the time I get off work.

You guys are so lucky. I'm stuck at fricking work!!!
*hands you an oar*
Now we can steer the boat we're both in!

[LiquidEagle]

Shadow's fucking my shit up! Somebody else join and take the attention off my crapiness lol

[Jay Gee]

2 hours and 30 minutes left. UGH....

[ddaryl]

Shadow's fucking my shit up! Somebody else join and take the attention off my crapiness lol

Here I come !!!

http://www.b3ta.cr3ation.co.uk/data/gif/1zbh4c7.gif

[Matt]

I'm ready to join in, is there somewhere where you can add people to a friend list or something?

My Game ID is shalashaska_psi, and my character name is B204FM

[jaxmkii]

http://www.b3ta.cr3ation.co.uk/data/gif/1zbh4c7.gif
lol fatty

shit ammo too look at all the smoke! that gun gunna need cleaning...

[hidex]

I was playing earlier today. id is dirhidex character name is gat. lol I keep trying to cqc guys crouching on the ground. It's not working. I have to get used to playing this after playing warhawk.

[Jay Gee]

Is it slower than Warhawk in terms of movement on the ground?

[Sephiroth_VII]

Has someone registered the clan name yet? If not, someone do it FFS!!!!

[Matt]

It says that you need to have played for five hours and reached level two before you can create a clan.

I tried searching for a few people earlier, and couldn't find anybody. I hope the EU and US servers aren't seperated :(

[Sephiroth_VII]

I think the clans will be deleted when the beta is over anyway...

[solidsnakejej]

I almost have five hours so I might be able to set it up soon. What should the name be?

[Matt]

I think we had the most votes for FOX-HOUND and Outer Heaven, though we probably won't get them.

[hidex]

Well I guess i'm getting better. I was around 4th place last game I played. i was on Otacon server but on a beginners only server there lol.

[Bsack]

^^Still an accomplishment never the less. =)

[Gegenki]

I placed 3rd in 3 TDM rounds.
Was well pleased. In certain ways the controls are so complicated its a joke.

[Kiosko]

Everythings smooth and the MG Humor is intact. But alot of the controls are confusing. Whenever I respawn, I keep pressing the x button so that it puts me in the crawling position and a dude comes up from behind and shoots me as I'm getting back up. So far I give it a B-!!

[solidsnakejej]

I just created a clan but it wouldn't allow me to use Outer Heaven or Fox-Hound. It says it contains invalid words. Now I need an Icon for our group.

[Passive]

What is the name?

[Matt]

Does anybody else think the aiming system is completely retarded?

Half the time the auto-aim doesn't work. On a few occasions there was an enemy right in front of me, and when I go to lock on, my character decides to look somewhere off to the right. So I got shot to pieces while my guy was admiring a piece of the wall

Then whenever you go to the other two views, it starts you off in a completely different way to the way you're facing a lot of the time.

CQC doesn't seem to work that well either. There was one occasion in deathmatch where the were 4 of us running around eachother trying to hit eachother with the butt of our guns. You could clearly see that people were making contact, but absolutely nothing was happening.

[solidsnakejej]

What is the name?

I just put it as psinext for now. We can think about a better one before the game release. I can't disband it for 167 hours which I don't get.

edit: Also I'm not sure if the game is region locked or not so you might not see it if your outside US.

[Jasonps3]

So far the aiming is kicking my ass. When I see an enemy in plain sight,
it takes me a lot of time to aim and when finally I got it, the enemy turns around and one shot or two, I'm dead, AAHHHHH!

[Passive]

try adjusting the aiming sensitivity Jasonps3


And okay solidsnakejej. Sounds good. hopefully all the clans will be disbanded when the beta closes.

[Gegenki]

that map is too small imo. We need huge expanses for proper team play

[Matt]

Yea, it's a good size for deathmatch. Nobody seems to communicate on the other modes anyway.

and the game is also region-locked, which sucks moth balls.

[Jasonps3]

[QUOTE=Passive;1877822]try adjusting the aiming sensitivity Jasonps3
QUOTE]

Thanks, I'll try doing that. But besides that, this a very fun beta game. I know I'll get used to the controls.

[hidex]

Ya the controls are confusing. I was practicing cqc by myself. You can only grab with the hand gun.

When your grabbed them you can let go of R1 then press L1 to us the guy as a shield and you can shoot with R1. Then press R1 and let go of L1 to go back to just holding.

Hold R1 harder to choke out the person.

While holding R1 lightly press x so you are kneeling. I can't remember I think it's left go of R1 then press R1 again and direct the left stick to where you want to roll on the guy then choke him out while you are ontop of him.

While hold R1 lightly. I think if you press R1 and with the left analog you can throw them on the ground.

[GTAce]

Roxx played 4 hrs straight and was 2nd in 5 matches.
I love that the auto-aim sucks. lol

Oh and my chara name is GTAce.

[solidsnakejej]

I'm having a lot of fun. Especially when I get on a team that knows how to use teamwork. Now to go watch the marlins game. Be back on later.

[Matt]

The servers are down for maintenance.

[³¹¹]

Can we get a clan with a good name?

I just made Filanthropy. They weren't down with the Ph at the beginning.

[Jasonps3]

Well, so far I'm glad that I got some kills. I couldn't count how many times I got killed and ended in the bottom ranks.

[LaLiLuLeLo]

I just finished a game that was 2 on 2, and then it was 1 against 2. One guy who's a little better than the 2 of us, and it was like, 'NOW THIS IS WHAT I'M TALKIN ABOUT!' I want to set up matches like that when I do play the game. It felt like MGS.

[Xclusion]

I wish there was a 4 vs Snake mode.

[Jay Gee]

The game's pretty fun. Headshots aren't that hard to get with the P90. It's just a simple matter of aiming the reticule at your enemy's head and letting the high rate of fire do the rest. Sniping's fun, though I felt cheated out of a couple of headshots. My only complaints? Slowpoke.jpg. Seriously. Speed this mother up a little bit. And the aiming sensitivity for both third and first person needs to be tweaked. First person especially. But yeah, if they can get a Warhawk level of auto aim, I might even start using it. Well, I've stayed up entirely too late tonight. I gotta get some Zs when I get home from work this afternoon. Peace.

[LiquidEagle]

Is the server down? I can't log in :(

[Xclusion]

yeah its down till 8 est i believe

[OG_Monkey]

People who played MGS3/Portable Ops online, same thing?

[Segitz]

Europe is up... dunno bout US though... has been working for some hours now

[nayrk]

I still can't get in

[Passive]

hmm i really wanna join you all =[ stupid net company. well come the 4th i'll be joining in ^^

[nayrk]

Hopefully I can get some time in today...

[OG_Monkey]

People who played MGS3/Portable Ops online, same thing?

Not really OG, Gametrailers has some gameplay video up now so you can view it here (http://www.gametrailers.com/player/33306.html)

I personally didnt play MGS3 online, just Portable Ops. Its somewhat alike but of course, tons better.

---------

Thanks

[Leedogg]

^^^^^^??????????????????????

[Bsack]

Well I didn't get a chance to play last night because of a few unfortunate events that occured last night. I'm now, once again, stuck at work anticipating the time I will be relieved from work. I hope you all have had fun on this game because I know I haven't yet, but when I get off tonight it's all over and I'm gonna be on this game until probably midnight. Shitty part is I don't get off until 7pm.

[Matt]

Just played for about an hour or so, really getting into it now. I love sniping on the Grozny Grad level, I managed to come top on 3 out of 4 rounds of TDM. That mode where you have to collect the frog (or whatever the hell it is) is pretty cool too.

Just a shame that we can't all get together. I hope the territories aren't seperated when the proper game comes out.

[Bsack]

no kidding why is it that the regions are seperated? Doesn't make any sense to me...?

[killermmn]

it online now!!!

[Matt]

no kidding why is it that the regions are seperated? Doesn't make any sense to me...?

I know, practically every other game can do it, so why can't they with this?

[Nameless]

^ More than likely capacity issues with the servers supporting the Beta.
I don't think Konami was prepared for the huge reception the Beta recieved.
Honestly that does not make much sense, because they know how many Beta keys they issued; it could be the classic big corporation issue of one hand not knowing what the other hand is doing... Hopefully they sort out their server infrastructure before the final game is released.

[LiquidEagle]

I'm able to make the clan now, has anybody else already done it? I guess all the Euros wouldn't be able to join though.. :-/

[hidex]

When I was playing the one were you have to capture the frog and bring it back to base. I had the frog and was back at base hoping someone would come and help me out. I took down a couple guys before they took me down. It might be better if I was playing with people I know.

Well it was probably the first time people played so they might have not known what to do.

[Steemo]

I'm loving this game so far. I just started it back up and did a lot of damage.. I was at 28 kills to 7 deaths before the connection crapped out. I attribute my pwnage to a lot of people having just started playing today, but even so. The latency can be a quit challenging sometimes, where I shoot at a person and two seconds later it registers that I shot them. But it's not too hard to compensate by getting in point blank, shooting while strafing left and right and rolling away.

SO GOOD.

[solidsnakejej]

I'm able to make the clan now, has anybody else already done it? I guess all the Euros wouldn't be able to join though.. :-/

I made a clan called Psinext but 311 didn't like the name so he created Filanthropy. I don't know which we're going to use I guess we should have a vote. I like the fact that you can give the role of Icon making to anyone in the clan.


Edit: I think I'm playing this to much. I already have over 8 hours on the clock.

[³¹¹]

Does anyone have a hi-res shot of old snakes chest? I'm looking for the patch on his gear for my clan icon.

[LiquidEagle]

Does anyone have a hi-res shot of old snakes chest? I'm looking for the patch on his gear for my clan icon.

http://forums.e-mpire.com/image.php?u=16123&dateline=1134055067&type=profile

It's in VG's profile :-p

[GTAce]

This game sucks on my SDTV.
I played it 2 days in 1080p and now i cant see the crosshair.... wow.

[LiquidEagle]

This game sucks on my SDTV.
I played it 2 days in 1080p and now i cant see the crosshair.... wow.

lol... don't remind me. My roomate's got a 1080p and I have an SDTV.

[Passive]

I have a 1080P ^^ so im fine lol.

And im going to be making a seperate clan now. A smaller group. Nothing against the PSI clan, ive just had some offers froma few different mates who would like to make a smaller clan.

[Xclusion]

I'm starting up a US clan separate from PSI let me know if you want to join

[Bsack]

I'm having a blast in this game so far. I mean it really is a lot of fun and having the option of auto aim or aimng yourself has really made this game enjoyable for me. I've had about 2 hours with this game and I'm definitely stoked at how this game plays out so far. I haven't had the chance to play all the game modes nor do I understand how to do the CQC yet, but I'm sure that will all come with time. My gun of choice has to be the AK102

[LiquidEagle]

Can we get a centralised list of everybody's in-game name and what region they're playing in? I have Xclusion, Shadow_Voa, Solidsnakejej, and Handycrap101 on my friend's list so I need quite a few more. I'm really having fun though, I'm up to level 3 and I'm trying really hard to upgrade my skills lol

[³¹¹]

me = kafka = canada

[Passive]

Passive - Australia.

[nayrk]

what id do you need? ...we had to make sooo many!

i think mine is either

cptn_america or nayrk

idk which anymore oh yea USofA

[Segitz]

SonOfSnake - Germany (or Austria, if it depends on where I dled the ß)

[Passive]

Yeah i wanna know what the point of making a Game ID was when we just make another name for our in-game character? :s why the hell didnt they just use the konami Id as a login. pretty silly system imo.

[Bsack]

Man I must be a natural at this game or something because I've been hitting the number 1-4 spots every game I've played. I'm always over my kills to death ratio and I just simply enjoy this game. I don't think this game is anything to get competitive with, but it's still good fun.

BUBSACK - USA

send friend requests (that's my PSN also btw)

[Matt]

B204fm - Uk

[Sephiroth_VII]

sephiroth_vii, send friends requests if you want :)

[Matt]

I'll add you when I get home later. I'll probably be online in a few hours.

what id do you need? ...we had to make sooo many!

i think mine is either

cptn_america or nayrk

idk which anymore oh yea USofA

Ahhh, so you're Cptn_America. :wave:

[Xclusion]

Xclusion - USA

[LaLiLuLeLo]

My character name is just Kev.
USA of course.
My gamer id is war_poetry

I think once you realize the game's design just does not facilitate run and gun gameplay/once you realize that this is not COD4, everything gels. I've been having a blast. Hide and seek, with guns!

[err_ok]

Hide and seek, with guns!

Sounds good.... Just how i play cod4 with friends.

[Bsack]

Minus the hide for me because I actually look for people.

[Jay Gee]

I always look for people unless I'm sniping in COD4. In MGO, I found myself moving around while sniping, but that seems to be a byproduct of the map layouts.

[Bsack]

Yep as do I and I am pretty happy how this game turned out. I can't really complain too much about how it has turned out. I enjoy it.

[Jay Gee]

Same here. I'd be playing it more, but it's still double XP weekend on COD4. ;)

[LiquidEagle]

I levelled up some skills so I now have 2 points in Assault Mastery and 2 points in Fast movement, I think it's really helping out... I also bumped up the aiming speed for over the shoulder view to 7, I think the default is too sluggish personally.

[Bsack]

meh, I don't play CoD anymore. I think that game is over hyped by people because it really isn't that good

on topic though if I were you I'd be on the beta because that's for only a limited time, but that's me though. =)

[Diresu]

I just got into the beta and so far its awesome. There is so much potential with the character creation and customization. Gameplay is fairly solid especially for a beta. I can't wait for the full version and to see them fulfill the potential.

[GTAce]

I also like the host-rating system.

[Jay Gee]

Yeah, that host rating system is nice. The guy likes to drop games? 1 star for you, bitch!

[KnightRiderX]

well here it goes...

KnightRiderX - USA

[Haji_Chevalier]

Id say mgo is pretty good so far, i wish there was a rtion system or something for the health. The points for weapons is a bit strange also since one kill i can have a nice rifle and one death puts me back to the cheesy stuff. The sneaking stuff is fun though its best to hide on hte ground face up and shoot the idiots who walk by without looking. I hope to see you guys on and in our clan wouldnt mind playing a well thought out game using the game to its fullest.

[Matt]

I levelled up some skills so I now have 2 points in Assault Mastery and 2 points in Fast movement, I think it's really helping out... I also bumped up the aiming speed for over the shoulder view to 7, I think the default is too sluggish personally.

I ended up changing all the view options to 7 after the first few games, it definitely helps. I'm still waiting to level up on my stuff, I'm about halfway there with fast movement and sub mastery.

[Gegenki]

... I set everything on max <rolls eyes>

People realise when theres a box out of place, so i trample the boxes in the scenery and then hide under one where the old one used to be, then when people run past i just run along behind them.

Certain things are really annoying me though. I just have this idea from every other game that knfie = instant death and it just doesnt. And trying to CQC someone once they crouch puts me in a terrible position.
And I can cycle through all my weapons using R2 but if I used my gun last instead of my knife, it doesnt want to give it to me. They should at least give you that - and at most they should let you select the weapon switch order.

[GTAce]

You can select that...
Main, secondary, support and knife.

[err_ok]

is the movement quite jittery and annoying for anyone else ?

[GTAce]

No you just have to use the controls smooth.
After a certain time i really could do neat moves.

Shooting someone then laying on the back and shooting the next one behind you in the head is so cool (can i post this? Sounds horrible...).

[solidsnakejej]

Has this been posted yet? It's the community page.
http://mgo2web.konami.com/us/community/

[Bsack]

I haven't learned all the tricks to the game yet, but is there like a manual to learn all the buttons and techniques?

[GTAce]

http://boardsus.playstation.com/playstation/board/message?board.id=mgs&thread.id=286660&view=by_date_ascending&page=1

[Xclusion]

when you start up the game one of the first option is "online manual" (something like that) it tells you the controls, some cqc moves and about skills.

[err_ok]

No you just have to use the controls smooth.
After a certain time i really could do neat moves.

Shooting someone then laying on the back and shooting the next one behind you in the head is so cool (can i post this? Sounds horrible...).

Err no i meant when you are running in a straight line and it doesn't run at a constant speed...

[Xclusion]

yeah thats happen to me once or twice he'd just start running slowly but everything else was smooth. I thought it was my controller or something.

[GTAce]

Hmm no never had that, only when i get hit or take a heavier weapon.

[err_ok]

I get it with one of my controllers all the time it's a pain in the arse in long hikes to flags in warhawk, it's the budget sixaxisness... I hope it isn't happening to my others :(

[solidsnakejej]

New maps and modes in EU version? can some one confirm it.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=10947127&postcount=9023

[supagohan]

Ha i was just coming to post that.
Oh well.
Anywayz Dont you guys wanna invite me to the PSI clan?
my Game id is Killthem
Friend request on MGO are also encouraged.

[LaLiLuLeLo]

you can just find it and do a join request.

[solidsnakejej]

Not sure if you can invite people to clans. You have to search for it. 311 has a clan called Filanthropy and I created one called Psinext.

[Gegenki]

Anyone else having voice problems?
I can hear people sometimes. My bluetooth doesn't seem to be sending anything. But I can recieve the preset voice commands through my bluetooth which is pretty cool

[³¹¹]

Yeah, I've stopped using voice. Seems pretty pointless since no one communicates over text or voice.

And new maps and new mode. WE GET TO PLAY AS SNAKE!!!!!!!!! Like holy shit, been waiting 3 years for this and this will be just enough to tide me over. To all those that complained about the beta, look what they gave us; the big guy.

And it seems like we get to play in the first level of the game (judging by screens I've seen).

[err_ok]

When are these new maps appearing? I don't see them.....

Edit: Well i just played the map in the screens, it's pretty cool. Didn't see snake though...

[Xclusion]

Stole from Kite_DH of Ps3forums:


"Midtown Maelstrom" is the name of the new map
the rules for Sneaking mission:
one player plays snake that is equipted with octo-camo, he has to collect dog-tags from the other players that are fightig
if 11 or more players are playing
one of them becomes Mk. II and can help snake on his mission
he can get the dog-tags when paralyzing or killing them

im snake rightnow
he can only equipt a M4 custom, Mosin-Nagant, Mk.2 Pistol, Stun Granade + magazines
and he has that scanning stick, thedrum can and a cardbox
octo-camo pretty cool but you can still see snake good
edit: if YOU play snake, you see him.
i just got killed by an invisible man lying on the street.
solid-eye is also nice.
oh yeah, snake also has those preset commandos voiced my david hayter
it says Legendary Hero as character name
http://i27.tinypic.com/331ooqv.jpg
http://i30.tinypic.com/25a45z7.jpg

[err_ok]

Oh so nobody else can see him.... odd

[Segitz]

I played as Snake the first f*cking round I logged on today... Guess what, I had no idea what to do and how the controls worked... I was killed off quite frequently and FAST

[LaLiLuLeLo]

Aww man wish I didn't have to go to work in an hour.

[indiekid4]

How the hell did you all get into the Beta?! I feel left out :(

Back to Warhawk...

[err_ok]

^err insane fluke

the steel drum is actually useful on the new map... woop!

..i just shot someone walking across the street in a box... why would you do that...

[Segitz]

How the hell did you all get into the Beta?! I feel left out :(

Back to Warhawk...

Europe for the win :P

[LiquidEagle]

Oh so nobody else can see him.... odd

It's kind of like in Subsistence's online, where it would give you a little boost when your camouflage index was pretty high and it would make Snake blend in even more with the environment.

[Sephiroth_VII]

Yeah, he's just slightly transparent, not completely invisible.

Anyway, two questions for the MGO wix' here:

1. How do I roll in the drum can barrel?
2. How do I stun with the stun knife?

That is all.

[GTAce]

1. I think tip triangle
2. Lock-on the enemy and press R2.

Everything gets explained in the weapons menu and dont forget the training modus, it helps a lot.

[solidsnakejej]

I believe the barrel roll is X.

[err_ok]

It's kind of like in Subsistence's online, where it would give you a little boost when your camouflage index was pretty high and it would make Snake blend in even more with the environment.

Oh i though he meant that, while you could play with Snake you were the only person who could see that it was snake and everyone else your default character model.

[LaLiLuLeLo]

Do a barrel roll!

[Coded-Dude]

is there an extensive konami gid list anywhere?

I've played the game for a bit now and am starting to enjoy it, but i'd like to beta with some of you.

[edit] nvm

Apparently the konami id and game id are not even used for player communication(friend invites, messages, profile, etc.). :wtf: Which brings me to a question.... If I delete my character does my name and/or profile get deleted as well? The auto-matching is decent, but the server reliability is horrible, so i've been sticking to joining games hosted by players much better than myself. Anywho, my character name is Coded-Dude(which should make it easier for you to remember), so start adding me when you get online......if you want to be friends that is. :shifty:

[supagohan]

ok i sent solidsnakejej a clan application under the name killthem. he should accept it

[LaLiLuLeLo]

is there an extensive konami gid list anywhere?

I've played the game for a bit now and am starting to enjoy it, but i'd like to beta with some of you.

[edit] nvm

Apparently the konami id and game id are not even used for player communication(friend invites, messages, profile, etc.). :wtf: Which brings me to a question.... If I delete my character does my name and/or profile get deleted as well? The auto-matching is decent, but the server reliability is horrible, so i've been sticking to joining games hosted by players much better than myself. Anywho, my character name is Coded-Dude(which should make it easier for you to remember), so start adding me when you get online......if you want to be friends that is. :shifty:


If you delete your character you lose the stats with him.

[Coded-Dude]

finally got to a level 2

[Gummy]

it takes a while to get to level two.

[Sephiroth_VII]

My character name is Sephiroth_VII, feel free to add me. But damn, what a stupid system...

[Segitz]

My character name is Sephiroth_VII, feel free to add me. But damn, what a stupid system...

Totally agreed... I just don't get, why they need the Konami AND Game ID if you just build your character afterwards anyways?!?


My char is named "SonOfSnake" if one cares... but I won't be much online anymore^^ GTA4 ships tomorrow and my new TV is likely to be shipped today :D

[Leedogg]

Thank you GAP, I just got an email from them. Inviting me to get into the beta. By the way, the european version of the beta will not work in the USA.

[solidsnakejej]

Yea I got that too but don't need it. So I have a extra code if anyone wants.

[err_ok]

I understand why you need a konami ID cause you may have more than one game on that account... but the gameID is kind of confusing.

[Bsack]

I'll take your extra code solidsnakejej because my brother didn't get the beta.

[Gounmckuber]

Does anyone have any extra beta codes? I want to play too! Dont leave me in the cold :(

[Gummy]

Scroll up, goun, theres a few members who has extra



anyways, im getting better on this game, yay

[³¹¹]

Just so you guys know, when in the weapon/item screen (L2/R2), if you hold it over a weapon and read the information about the guns, it tells you how to do the secondary attacks/barrel rolls/stuns/etc...

Playing as Snake is hard on Blood Bath.

[Bsack]

Sneak is a lot of fun to play and being snake is extremely tough to say the least. Well taking into consideration I don't understand how to do CQC at all then obviously it would be tough for me.

[Gummy]

I played snake for 2 mins and got disconnected.

how do I used Octocamo?
I got too excited.

[Raitei]

why is it that even though i have the speedyness 'perk' i move like ass

[Raitei]

oh... and not the good way

[Jay Gee]

If I'm not mistaken, the octocamo is automatic.

[Bsack]

why is it that even though i have the speedyness 'perk' i move like ass

I don't even use that perk anymore because it has no affect on my movement, so I use a different perk now. My AIM in this game is brilliant!

[LaLiLuLeLo]

I played snake for 2 mins and got disconnected.

how do I used Octocamo?
I got too excited.

Stick to a wall or lie prone and wait a second.

[Gummy]

Ahh, okay.
thanks.

[³¹¹]

Just so you now, if you want to play as Snake, host the game and start it right away! I've done this a few times to play as him and just run around testing things out.

When somebody joins the game it will make you choose your weapons again and respawn you somewhere, so don't worry about not knowing if they are right behind you.

What are we at now, like 40+/- days?

[Coded-Dude]

whats even more ridiculous is i don't believe you can search for, or even add friends unless they are online. I was messing around with trying to add some people and kept getting "PC not found" even though i was entering the character name verbatim.

[cliffbo]

what's the general consensus of opinion of the MGSO? from the vids i've just watched on gametrailers, it looks slow and boring...

[³¹¹]

Movement is a little slow.

Peaking out of cover is slow.

You cannot peak vertically out of cover, it must be horizontal.

No chance for extra ammo. At least give me 200 bullets. 120 goes by too quick.

[GTAce]

The fighting is very intense if the right players are in the room, thats why everyone likes it i think.

[Kiosko]

The gunfights are intense, controls take some time to get used to, and everything looks great! I haven't had any lag or disconnects(except for the ocassional host ending the game).

[cliffbo]

Movement is a little slow.

Peaking out of cover is slow.

You cannot peak vertically out of cover, it must be horizontal.

No chance for extra ammo. At least give me 200 bullets. 120 goes by too quick.

The fighting is very intense if the right players are in the room, thats why everyone likes it i think.

The gunfights are intense, controls take some time to get used to, and everything looks great! I haven't had any lag or disconnects(except for the ocassional host ending the game).

thanks fellas. one other question: what gameplay elements sets it apart from your run of the mill run-and-gun?

[GTAce]

The movement, very realistic and a bit exeggerated at the same time.
Sound is also awesome, weapons in the distance are cool.
Also you can hide very good in the distance.

[Coded-Dude]

thanks fellas. one other question: what gameplay elements sets it apart from your run of the mill run-and-gun?


its not run and gun...if you run and gun you may kill one or two guys(if your lucky) before you get blasted. The idea is tactical stealth. If you work together as a team you can destroy the enemy very easily.

[LiquidEagle]

its not run and gun...if you run and gun you may kill one or two guys(if your lucky) before you get blasted. The idea is tactical stealth. If you work together as a team you can destroy the enemy very easily.

Yep, you gotta know your place in this game :laugh:

[³¹¹]

I've yet to encounter a team that has played together. One thing that I am going to note on my survey is that I was the SOP signals like death/etc were larger or more noticeable. Like they are too faint.

[LiquidEagle]

I've yet to encounter a team that has played together. One thing that I am going to note on my survey is that I was the SOP signals like death/etc were larger or more noticeable. Like they are too faint.

I agree, I wish they were more noticeable as well. I'd also be worried that if they were too noticeable that you wouldn't be able to see your immediate situation though :laugh:

[hidex]

You can get ammo but it's pretty hard. You have to knock a guy out then pick them up and drop them.

[³¹¹]

In response to that, I only use my tranq gun as Snake.

[LaLiLuLeLo]

its not run and gun...if you run and gun you may kill one or two guys(if your lucky) before you get blasted. The idea is tactical stealth. If you work together as a team you can destroy the enemy very easily.

Also, in my opinion, the fewer people on a map the more it feels like MGS, the more intense it is. woot.

[Coded-Dude]

it would be cool if one of the experience characteristics were medic. Since they don't have health packs and people want them(or rather want to last longer), why not just make it available through the experience characteristics. Allow your soldier to carry a limited amount of medicine to heal a few times in the round(for yorself, or your team).

[³¹¹]

Yeah, you should be able to do that. But like it is team-alotted. Like only 1 person can carry it at a time, to avoid the peek/shoot/reload/heal combination that would plague the game.

I just hate getting into firefights and killing like 3 people which leaves me at .1% health and some noob comes by and I'm toast.

[Xclusion]

did you say medicine?
act like you know what game this is son!
RATIONS!

[Omegacell]

You can get ammo but it's pretty hard. You have to knock a guy out then pick them up and drop them.

I'm pretty sure you can go back to your teams base and you get a press start button icon that flashes on the screen. Which will only appear once you've used up a fair amount of ammo I think, or it might be that you just have to wait a little while before it appears after you have selected your weapons......can't remember. Anyway that will allow you to rebuy weapons as long as you have enough points(or whatever they are called lol) to buy them and so giving you all your ammo back.

[hidex]

I'm pretty sure you can go back to your teams base and you get a press start button icon that flashes on the screen. Which will only appear once you've used up a fair amount of ammo I think, or it might be that you just have to wait a little while before it appears after you have selected your weapons......can't remember. Anyway that will allow you to rebuy weapons as long as you have enough points(or whatever they are called lol) to buy them and so giving you all your ammo back.

I haven't tried that myself. I usually die before I have no ammo lol. I only used up all my ammo maybe 3-4 times. lol

[Bsack]

its not run and gun...if you run and gun you may kill one or two guys(if your lucky) before you get blasted. The idea is tactical stealth. If you work together as a team you can destroy the enemy very easily.

I run and gun and I don't die. I don't just run out in the middle of the map like a moron either, but I take more tactical approaches to my "running and gunning."

[Jay Gee]

When does this beta end again? I plan on playing all day today.

[solidsnakejej]

The 11th next sunday

[Bsack]

It's ending too damn soon!!