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Michael Bluth
03-23-2003, 12:23 AM
Edging closer to Iraq 's hard-core defenders, U.S. and British forces besieged the southern city of Basra on Saturday and rolled to within 150 miles of Baghdad. Diplomatic complications closed off the option of a heavy invasion from the north.

Allies boasted "the instruments of tyranny are collapsing," and so, from all appearances, was the will to fight among thousands in the regular Iraqi army. Still, resistance in some areas was fierce.

On the outskirts of Basra, a city of 1.3 million where Saddam Hussein's tough security fighters were thought to be lodged, allies captured the airport in a gunbattle and took a bridge.

U.S. forces crossed the Euphrates River and were halfway to Baghdad, two days after spilling from Kuwait in a dusty dash that has secured strategic oil fields, a seaport and towns.

Near Basra, Cobra attack helicopters, attack jets, tanks and 155 mm howitzers fought ahead of the troops to clear Highway 80. The road was nicknamed Highway of Death during the 1991 Gulf War because of an American air assault so devastating and graphic it even gave U.S. officials pause.

Officials said 1,000 to 2,000 Iraqi soldiers were in allied custody and many others gave up the fight. But six divisions of the Republican Guard, Saddam's best and most loyal soldiers, were still in the way.

"So we must remain prepared for potentially tough fights as we move forward," Gen. Stanley McChrystal told a Pentagon briefing. "There's a long way to go."

The fate of Iraqi President Saddam Hussein remained unknown to the U.S. and British officials trying to kill him.

"Actually, I don't know if he's alive or not," said U.S. Gen. Tommy Franks, the war commander.

Saddam was shown on Iraqi TV again Saturday but there was no telling when the tape was made.

U.S. officials had no new, credible intelligence showing whether he had survived assaults on his compounds, or whether he might have been wounded.

But a U.S. official, speaking on condition of anonymity, said another senior Iraqi leader was known to be alive and might be running some of Iraq's defenses: Saddam's cousin Ali Hassan al-Majid al-Tikriti, known to his enemies as "Chemical Ali" for his role in a chemical-weapons attack on Kurds in 1988.

Any thought the allies would limit air attacks to the cover of darkness vanished in the smoky sunlight Saturday.

Twenty huge columns of smoke rose along Baghdad's southern horizon in the afternoon and intermittent explosions were heard through the capital.

But when darkness did fall, the intensity picked up. Strong blasts rocked the capital. Warplanes were heard overhead once again. The attacks eased as the night wore on.

Sickened by the escalation of a campaign they already opposed, demonstrators rallied worldwide to give voice to their rage. Even so, crowds were smaller than before the conflict.

"We don't want to see more innocent people die," said Susan Sonz, who joined tens of thousands marching down Broadway in New York City. Tens of thousands of people marched in France, too, some holding rainbow-hued peace flags and others shouting "Bush, murderer."

Italian protests were marked by smashed windows in Milan and vandalized gas stations in Rome.

After weeks of recalcitrance by Turkish leaders, U.S. military officials gave up on using Turkish bases to move heavy armored forces into northern Iraq, and redirected ships loaded with the weaponry to the Persian Gulf.

The 4th Infantry's soldiers, about 17,000, have remained out of action at Fort Hood, Texas, pending resolution of the matter. They will probably enter the conflict from Kuwait; how many is not known.

In Baghdad, an earlier round of bombing, seemingly apocalyptic in scale, terrifying in its effect, laid waste to presidential palaces, government offices and military headquarters.

But only three people died in that bombardment, Iraqi officials said Saturday. They said more than 200 were injured.

"The Americans have no conscience," said Amal Hassan Kamel, tending to her 8-year-old son, Wa'ad, in hospital with shrapnel wounds. "What have our children done to deserve this?"

Iraqi officials showed reporters the residential al-Qadassiya neighborhood, where seven houses were destroyed and 12 damaged, as well as a tourist complex along the Tigris river and an empty orphanage that were hit.

By luck or design, Baghdad's electrical grid survived the towering fireballs.

"The lights stayed on in Baghdad, but the instruments of tyranny are collapsing," said British Defense Secretary Geoff Hoon.

West of Baghdad, another of Saddam's palaces was destroyed Saturday in a strike by warplanes from the USS Theodore Roosevelt, according to a commander aboard the carrier.

And in the far north, U.S. forces fired Tomahawk cruise missiles at suspected positions of Ansar al Islam guerrillas, accused of having ties to al-Qaida terrorists.

Neighboring Iran protested hits on Iranian territory by at least three U.S. missiles. The State Department said Washington was investigating and respected Iran's territorial integrity.

Diplomatic fallout extended to Moscow, where Russian Foreign Minister Igor Ivanov accused America of trying to seize Iraq's oil wealth under the guise of liberating the country.

"Iraq does not need democracy brought on the wings of Tomahawks," Ivanov said. He was worried about the future of lucrative contracts Russian companies have with Saddam's government.

As allied forces moved rapidly through the desert, a few children waved; others patted their stomachs or lifted their hands to their mouths to show they were hungry.

Bedraggled Iraqi soldiers surrendered, including members of the 8,000-man 51st Infantry Division, a mechanized unit stationed in Basra. U.S. officials said many surrendered; others dispersed.

But the city of palm groves and oil facilities — Iraq's main seaport and second largest city — bristled with danger and unpredictability.

Saddam's security forces in Basra opened up with artillery and heavy machine guns. Facing the prospect of urban warfare, allied commanders hoped to win the surrender of their enemy rather than have to overpower the city.

The British took charge of the Basra fighting Saturday as U.S. Marines pressed north

Even a smaller conquest, the Umm Qasr seaport, was not entirely safe after two days; some Iraqi combatants slipped into civilian garb and become guerillas.

The U.S. Army's 3rd Infantry Division surged 100 miles through the desert, heading straight for Baghdad and the well-trained Republican Guard troops defending the capital.

President Bush convened a wartime national security meeting at the Camp David, Md., presidential retreat, where he was spending his first weekend since unleashing the armed forces on Iraq on Wednesday.

In his weekly radio address, he said "our mission is clear — to disarm Iraq of weapons of mass destruction, to end Saddam Hussein's support for terrorism and to free the Iraqi people."

Franks, from his regional command post in Qatar, said coalition forces hadn't found weapons of mass destruction yet.

Iraqi state television, trying to show Saddam is still alive and in control, reported that he had two meetings Saturday with senior government members and one of his sons. It showed footage of Saddam. Saddam had not been seen since he appeared on TV after the opening air strikes in a video that might have been recorded earlier.



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advancemonkey
03-23-2003, 12:31 AM
thats really close. were taken um by storm.

dncardman
03-23-2003, 04:26 AM
Yeah but once we get to baghdad it won't be so easy.

advancemonkey
03-23-2003, 04:42 AM
I am not worried about baggdad once we level them down to one city there moral will be pretty dead, and i am sure a majority will surrender by them.

Travis
03-23-2003, 04:52 AM
I think we should slow down and install periodic governments in the towns we have taken so far. We're just going in and leaving them in anarchy. That isn't right...I can't even agree with that :(

If we'd slow down, bring supplies to the seized towns, and establish a makeshift government that can maintain itself until the war is over, then I'd be happier...but all in all I think we're doing a good job.

Note: I just saw that thing on CBS during the game where they said that the people in these towns needed supplies and what not...so it might not be true. It's a news station saying it...so I'm not positive.

Michael Bluth
03-23-2003, 04:57 AM
Uh.................. set-up governments in towns? Do you know how hard that would be? It'd be like 100's of governments, it's better to leave some soldiers behind to watch over them. Supplies should be there within 48 hours or so since they took-over Umm Qasar (sp?).

advancemonkey
03-23-2003, 05:01 AM
We make lil goverments everywhere it will start seperation, starting a really bad start for a new goverment.

Travis
03-23-2003, 05:24 AM
Notice how I said "temporary." And that's the kind of "government" I was talking about, Adam. Leave some kind of authority there to establish any form of government to keep it from turning into chaos.

advancemonkey
03-23-2003, 05:30 AM
That would still create difficult problems,a leader will not whant to give up a new goverment, they will not whant to give up power. So it will cause a bunch of lil civil wars creating a hostile bunch of Iraq's.

Michael Bluth
03-23-2003, 05:32 AM
Well then that's not a government, I thought you were talking about electing citizens to head a board or something. o_O

Travis
03-23-2003, 05:38 AM
Yea Adam, I just couldn't think of a better way to say figure of authority...sorry for the misunderstanding :D

smellslikenintendospirit
03-23-2003, 12:55 PM
Basra is nowhere near Baghdad. There's no way they could have reached within 150 miles of Baghdad at that time. They were 150 miles into Iraq. But the former is impossible.

Michael Bluth
03-23-2003, 03:56 PM
Uh, we're now 100 miles from Baghdad.

http://www.yahoo.com/s/70181

Travis
03-23-2003, 07:03 PM
Ha, how is that impossible? Have you never been on a long trip? Iraq isn't all that big...without much resistance it would be easy to get that far...I mean, I can go all the way through my state and halfway through the next to get to the beach in 4 hours, and they've been in Iraq for like 2 days without much resistance.

Dwhitten
03-23-2003, 07:07 PM
There is going to be alot of death's from both sides once we enter Baghdad.