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OG_Monkey

09-10-2008, 10:48 PM

Gametrailers's comparisons are that of standard settings. They explained that they dont change settings for the ps3 nor the 360, just let it run since more than average, have no idea how to even do so.

This one is just a simple port, nothing more. Maybe itll change for Bio2...if the ps3 even gets Bioshock 2. Everyone is talking about renting this game or buying it used when the price drops. If so thats a slap in the face to 2K, they'll see it as if it bombed on the ps3.

Red

09-10-2008, 11:15 PM

Gone buy this game, never played Bioshock and the trophies. :lol:

Leedogg

09-10-2008, 11:27 PM

10 minute install? Thats not that long. I'm still picking it up.

chartwel

09-10-2008, 11:42 PM

VG Aficionado

09-12-2008, 09:15 AM

i will trust my own eyes when i have both games running on my calibrated set. then i will give impressions for sure. brighter colors mean absolutely nothing when you dont know what settings the games were played on.

only thing i am worried about is framerate. its needs to be rock solid, with no tearing. that ruins a game more than anything in my opinion.

It will include the 30 fps tearing-free locked framerate and v-sync off options. Don't worry about that.

Demo coming October 2nd (http://www.2kgames.com/cultofrapture/home.html)

chartwel

09-12-2008, 05:47 PM

It will include the 30 fps tearing-free locked framerate and v-sync off options. Don't worry about that.

Demo coming October 2nd (http://www.2kgames.com/cultofrapture/home.html)

we will see soon enough if it is rock solid.

Jay Gee

09-12-2008, 08:53 PM

Everyone is talking about renting this game or buying it used when the price drops. If so thats a slap in the face to 2K, they'll see it as if it bombed on the ps3.
God, does this ever sound so familiar. I'm purchasing this full price, btw. Considering it was a million seller on the 360, there wasn't much of a reason to port it.

LaLiLuLeLo

09-12-2008, 09:28 PM

Yeah, they're just being nice. Hey guys here's the 360's game of the year from last year. I'm pretty sure it's worth the money.

jako

09-12-2008, 10:23 PM

Yeah, they're just being nice. Hey guys here's the 360's game of the year from last year. I'm pretty sure it's worth the money.

You're right on this, that was the only game that made me want an XBOX360.

VG Aficionado

10-02-2008, 02:17 PM

The demo is available in the European store, 1814 MB.

GTAce

10-02-2008, 02:22 PM

I need a bigger HDD.
Shit why is it so big? Fucking compress the demos more, its bigger than WipEout.

VG Aficionado

10-02-2008, 02:26 PM

Some people are wondering the same, it might have to do with lossless audio. We'll see.

Segitz

10-02-2008, 02:59 PM

Some people are wondering the same, it might have to do with lossless audio. We'll see.

Doubt that seriously... if this is the same demo as on XBL or on PC, then the size is ok... The PC demo download also is 1.85GB zipped. (texture and soundwise, there's nearly no difference between PC and 360, so I doubt there'll be much difference to the PS3 either)

I just don't get, how this demo can be that huge... it isn't even that long. I mean, Burnout is just 1.5GB bigger for a full game.

Sadly, 2GB take me 2hrs to download on my line, so I'll have to wait for me to play it^^

GTAce

10-02-2008, 03:02 PM

Yeah and its not only the Bioshock demo.
There are a lot demos that are way to huge.

10-02-2008, 03:28 PM

welcome to the HD era of gaming! DVD not needed? yeah, right.

by the way, any takers on this one yet? we need first hand impressions. I can't d/l due to my stupid d/l cap. argh!

Matt

10-02-2008, 03:55 PM

I'm guessing that it's gonna be exactly the same demo as the 360 one?

Segitz

10-02-2008, 05:58 PM

As far as I can tell, it looks good (only played the PC version on a high end rig, so no fair comparison).

It does scale to 1080P, but it surely only upscales. Framerate is good, but not 100% stable. In the beginning while in the water, the flames make the system drop some odd frames... (my guess is ~25fps in that situation, 30 in the rest)

The water looks a bit different too (where the plane crashes into the tube), but again, I played it on the PC, so this might look VERY different.

Other than that. The textures are on par, sound also and loading times are ok (~20secs or so per level load)

masteratt

10-02-2008, 08:19 PM

Yeah Matt it's exactly the same demo, both content and visual/ gameplay wise IMO.
The only difference for me was a personal preference, where I feel the R2/ L2 for firing makes things faster and more fluid on the DualShock instead of the big triggers you have to press in the 360 pad.
I found on PS3, my fingers can move more freely between the 4 shoulder buttons but then I do use DS much more than 360 pad so yeah.

I didn't suffer any framerate problems in the plane crash scene btw (I even looked around to check out the graphics, which were great).

So to sum-up; overall to me it's exactly the same as 360 (though the loadings felt a little bit longer on the PS3).

Matt

10-02-2008, 09:12 PM

I've downloaded it anyway, I played it on the 360 before it came out, so it's been a while.

Applefiend

10-02-2008, 11:45 PM

Yup, it's definitely one of the 360s crowd jewels, this is like Halo 3 or Gears came to PS3 a year later, hell yes you should get it. (If you didn't play it on 360 or PC).

Still got the 360 version, I'll give ya the unbiased impressions once the demo downloads. Be a while though, crappy New Zealand internet.

Leedogg

10-03-2008, 12:09 AM

weird the us ps store just updated and the bioshock demo is 1430 MBs.

VG Aficionado

10-03-2008, 12:12 AM

It probably has less additional languages.

Applefiend

10-03-2008, 02:53 AM

OK, comparison of the versions. 360 Retail Bioshock vs PS3 Bioshock. Launch 360 vs Launch PS3. 32 inch Sony Bravia V Series in my games room, let's go...

On hdmi the PS3 version is noticeably sharper. As far as FSAA goes I can't tell the difference, other than the switch from component to hdmi. Resolution looks identical, the pixel counters may disagree but to my eyes it looks the same.

Amount of particle effects and texture quality looks near identical. Difference is so close it could be down to the difference between nVidia and ATI output.

Frame rate is better on 360, just as you'd expect, the usual 30% difference, missing the old EDRAM/fillrate etc. Not enough to ruin the PS3 version though. Again it falls under the "Look nerds, it all looks the bleeding same" category. Frame rate never chugged, yeh optimized Unreal 3. Beautiful conversion job, one after reading yards of FUD I actually wondered if PS3 could pull off.

Main difference is different loading screens.

In general leaving aside differences the game looks lie the usual "plastic and neon" Unreal 3 look that I've never been crazy about, but let's be clear it's a top ten best looking PS3 game, whether it's stay in the top ten after gaming season is done we'll see.

Doing the pipe puzzles is way easier with the ds3 dpad. Nice.

Verdict: For me, I prefer the DS3 controller, I want my trophies, I don't want to buy a new 360 get get sharper hdmi output, I don't care about the 30% difference in frame rate, I'm swapping my unfinished 360 copy for this.

This is a top quality conversion, no botch job like OrangeBox. If you haven't taken a trip to rapture this should be an essential purchase. This is a return to the days of old when the single player experience was king.

Segitz

10-03-2008, 03:08 AM

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Yeah... I thought as much... on a very high end PC it looks better, but that's just another league anyways (even for games like COD or soon GTA).

A very well done port. So if you didn't play it yet, you might miss something great... But... consider waiting, as this game WILL fall in price fast (because it's older!)

Matt

10-03-2008, 03:15 AM

Why is it that everybody thinks the Orange Box port was a screwup?

GTAce

10-03-2008, 03:15 AM

Because it was.^^
At least framerate wise.

Matt

10-03-2008, 03:17 AM

Because it was.^^
At least framerate wise.

I've never experienced any frame rate problems with my copy. :shrug:

GTAce

10-03-2008, 03:22 AM

Oh i had a lot in Episode 1 but its okay, still everythin playable.
What i found funny was that everyone complained that TF2 lagged like hell on both consoles, but i almost never experienced any lags on the PS3.

Ah but i dont give a damn, it wouldve been a shame if Bioshocks port would suck, after such a long time.

Applefiend

10-03-2008, 03:23 AM

OrangeBox is a cockup, switch between 360 and PS3 you'll notice the difference. FEAR is another one where the PS3 version has way way lower resolution.

Bioshock cockup free, whey!

Matt

10-03-2008, 03:32 AM

Indeed, woooo!

I'll probably wait until this one drops in price, can't really afford it at the moment.

10-03-2008, 04:59 AM

I am curious to what the final size of these games is actually are compared to their demo. it probably varies, but what is the average, I wonder?

cliffbo

10-05-2008, 04:58 PM

unforgivable! from the devs:

“When we saw a post asking about issues found in the demo, we jumped on it immediately. And you know what, you’re right. The texture in the PS3 demo of the downed Big Daddy does not match our level of quality either. This slipped by. We admit it. However, I want to assure you that this is an exception, and not a rule, and while I regret this oversight, we put a lot of love into making this game look amazing for the PS3 and I’m sure that when you play the rest of the demo you will agree that the textures are not all like this one instance.

As for the other issues and concerns, we are currently diligently working to replicate any bugs, and will report back to you with what we find. Thank you for your vigilance here and moving forward.”

http://www.ripten.com/2008/10/04/ps3-bioshock-apparently-looks-bioshitty/

Matt

10-05-2008, 05:26 PM

At least they admitted it, most devs would've probably ignored the complaint.

Red

10-05-2008, 09:02 PM

But the ps3 version got more aliasing, this is something that they don't fix.

cliffbo

10-05-2008, 09:04 PM

But the ps3 version got more aliasing, this is something that they don't fix.

ah, but if a dev deliberately makes a mistake or two like this then you can bet your life that comparison pics will hit the net and revitalise interest in the 360 version too :)

Segitz

10-05-2008, 11:00 PM

But the ps3 version got more aliasing, this is something that they don't fix.

Theoretically, it HAS to have the exact same amount of Aliasing, as the 360 version is 0xAA also...

Applefiend

10-06-2008, 12:13 AM

Aliasing is visible in both versions.

LaLiLuLeLo

10-06-2008, 07:51 AM

Yeah. It is. Not gonna let it keep me from the game.

Sephiroth_VII

10-07-2008, 08:23 PM

Still damn pretty though.

Matt

10-07-2008, 09:00 PM

I decided to get the 360 version of the game today. I went into Zavvi today and say the edition with the tin case for £10, couldn't really resist. With the situation I'm in at the moment, I'm not prepared to pay £30 more for exclusive DLC.

10-08-2008, 05:13 AM

if you have a 360, you're better off getting a game at bargain bins and for dirst cheap online than paying full price for them- unless we are talking major online play and what not.

Applefiend

10-08-2008, 05:16 AM

Yup, very little to choose between them, unless you're a nit picker like me.

Then again if you have a 360 you should have bought and finished this a year ago you naughty man.

10-08-2008, 05:47 AM

Then again if you have a 360 you should have bought and finished this a year ago you naughty man.

what the drunk man with the evil red eyes said!

http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa188/shmookins/emos/639b1338720ef120b8998fb2.gif

Matt

10-08-2008, 07:17 AM

I only got one again recently, and the game hadn't come out when I last had one. So, THERE!

10-08-2008, 12:43 PM

RRoD is not an excuse! it is not a curse! it is true salvation disguised as such to weave out the unworthy!

off topic; seriously though, what's with all the hoops and tests with these crazy cults? can't anything be straight, forward and absolutely clear? sheesh...

AC!D

10-15-2008, 12:30 AM

100 Playstation: The Official Magazine (US)
A remarkable achievement, a triumph of gameplay and narrative that everyone should choose to play.
100 GamePro
There's no doubt that Bioshock is one of the finest FPS games ever made and the PS3 port is stellar through and through.
93 PSM3 Magazine UK
With so much invention, intrigue and genuine brilliance packed into twelve hours of game-play, you just can't afford not to (pick up a copy).

First review scores are in and the game seems OK so i guess you guys have to ask yourself the question are you really gonna miss out on Bioshock a really great game because a few stupid sites online are gonna make controversial comparisons with its 360 counterpart to get a few more hits?

cliffbo

10-15-2008, 12:34 AM

now that is interesting Ac!d.

perhaps things have been taken out of context and i have to admit, i've been active in that department.

GTAce

10-15-2008, 12:34 AM

I will rent it, never pay full price for a 1 year old game.

OG_Monkey

10-15-2008, 12:37 AM

sure, give 2K absolutely no money. Then complain again when Bioshock 2 is a timed exclusive once more...or exclusive period.

masteratt

10-15-2008, 12:44 AM

I will rent it, never pay full price for a 1 year old game.

If you can get it on other platforms, then get it.
But for PS3 people, it's not a year old game.
Also OG makes a good point.

My PC can't run this on full settings, I don't have a 360, so I will probably buy the PS3 version (hopefully, if money situation is good).

GTAce

10-15-2008, 12:46 AM

Tbh look at all the great games that are coming in the last 3 month of this year.
I dont have millions of € to pay all of these games and especially not for a port from a game thats a year old.
If 2K wants my money, they have to offer me something that appeals more to me than the other stuff out there.
I played the demo and didnt found it great enough to miss out LBP, SOCOM or Resistance 2.

EDIT: Thats why i said i will rent it, but i wont spent 60 bucks on it and miss other games.

masteratt

10-15-2008, 12:49 AM

Yeah obviously that's your call lol...2K shouldn't be bashed for asking for full price though because as I said it IS a new game for the PS3 users.

AC!D

10-15-2008, 12:50 AM

I will rent it, never pay full price for a 1 year old game.

Trust me you will want this game in your collection it will easily make your top 5 PS3 games.

cliffbo

10-15-2008, 12:58 AM

I will rent it, never pay full price for a 1 year old game.

sure, give 2K absolutely no money. Then complain again when Bioshock 2 is a timed exclusive once more...or exclusive period.

this is a good point you know GTAce.

i was the first to jump on the gimped bandwagon but i'm willing to think that i could be wrong

GTAce

10-15-2008, 01:02 AM

The point itself isnt bad, but i cant spent so much money on all these games and before i buy a 1 year old port, i will spent it on these extremely special exclusives.

cliffbo

10-15-2008, 01:05 AM

The point itself isnt bad, but i cant spent so much money on all these games and before i buy a 1 year old port, i will spent it on these extremely special exclusives.

good point too... just two opinions separated by circumstance so i'd say you are both right :)

GTAce

10-15-2008, 01:07 AM

Yup, just opinion. 8)

VG Aficionado

10-15-2008, 01:13 AM

There will be a patch for the overseen graphical glitches (http://forums.2kgames.com/forums/showpost.php?p=352676&postcount=1)

OG_Monkey

10-15-2008, 02:17 AM

If you can get it on other platforms, then get it.
But for PS3 people, it's not a year old game.
Also OG makes a good point.

My PC can't run this on full settings, I don't have a 360, so I will probably buy the PS3 version (hopefully, if money situation is good).

thats a very excellent way to put it. If you can get it on other platforms then do so but like you said, its technically a new game for PS3 users and I too at first questioned why the price point was such. But its understandable now.

So its like, when 2K sees the sales will they question PS3 users dont like the game? If its the case that they played it on other platforms, they simply, will release it on those platforms only. If because ps3 user dont like the game, then its still the same outcome. Or maybe they see no money because everyone rented or bought it used which would equal 2K thinking, lets just release awhile later again? Dunno

Red_Eyes

10-15-2008, 05:37 AM

100
First review scores are in and the game seems OK so i guess you guys have to ask yourself the question are you really gonna miss out on Bioshock a really great game because a few stupid sites online are gonna make controversial comparisons with its 360 counterpart to get a few more hits?Yes.

Actually, I am broke right now, so I am going to have to choose LBP planet over Bioshock.

gibmonster

10-15-2008, 05:44 AM

I have resistance 2:CE and LBP pre-ordered. That's really cool on the devs part to listen and act on the concerns of gamers. However, I'm also in the same boat as some of the other guys on this forum. I'm strapped for cash, so this may have to wait a while.

10-15-2008, 02:37 PM

what are the DLC for the game- exclusive or otherwise?

AC!D

10-15-2008, 04:27 PM

All i was saying is dont let Gametrailers and Eurogamer comparison videos put you off cause Take2 put a lot of effort into porting this. Take2 Marin, Take2 Boston and they hired outside talent Digital extremes (Guys who made Dark Sector) to do the port.

As for the guys who cant afford the game at the moment i feel you. This was possibly the worst month in the entire year that the could have chosen to release this game. I would still recommend this game to you guys though later down the line maybe during the January gaming dry spell or when our finances recover.

what are the DLC for the game- exclusive or otherwise?

This DLC is supposed to be exclusive or so they say but we know what PR marketing types word in the game industry means absolutley nothing.

The DLC is supposed to comprise of huge rooms and later probably bigger levels where you have to try and figure out a puzzle to accomplish your objective kinda like portal. Instead of the portal gun you use your plasmids to solve puzzles. For those that dont know what plasmids are think Oblivion when you use destruction or restoration magic with you left hand and with you right hand in Bioshock you fire your weapons.

Examples of plasmids: telekinesis, Fireballs, Electricity, Freezing things, making enemies turn on each other, Tossing enemies in the air etc sorry but i forgot some of the plasmids names and there are tons more i just cant remember right now.

So an example of one of these kinds of puzzles would be to find a machine that needs a missing lever. he lever is frozen in ice so you melt it with a fireball then move the lever via telekinesis to the machine. Then the prob is the machine doesnt work so you would think about it then realize it needs some juice so you zap it with Electricityand the machie lowers and elevator etc Just a simple example i hope i explained it well enough Z. Basically if you enjoyed Portal you will enjoy the DLC but as to the question weather its free or not i have no idea so does anyone else have any insight into this?

Dont mistake the DLC though with the main game cause that is alll tailored together to thrill you with scares, overload your eyes with a beautifully designed underwater City that brought back memories of watching 20 000 leagues under the sea when i was a kid and mesmorize you with a beautifully tailored story about one mans vision to create Utopia and how it all.... I wont ruin the rest for you guys!

VG Aficionado

10-16-2008, 09:01 AM

10 out of 10 from Eurogamer (http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=260897)

AC!D

10-16-2008, 01:43 PM

IGN 9.4 (http://ps3.ign.com/articles/920/920389p1.html)

VG Aficionado

10-16-2008, 02:02 PM

Announcement at the turn of the page!

VG Aficionado

10-16-2008, 02:03 PM

10 out of 10 from Eurogamer (http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=260897)

IGN 9.4 (http://ps3.ign.com/articles/920/920389p1.html)

Aaand... Bioshock 2: Sea of Dreams teaser unlockable in the PS3 version!

http://i38.tinypic.com/35hg5g6.jpg

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=13246675&postcount=1

GTAce

10-16-2008, 02:23 PM

Thats cool, because that should mean it comes for PS3.

VG Aficionado

10-16-2008, 03:34 PM

I just found out Bioshock is on sale now in Spain =-o Apparently. I want to get it but I will wait for the patch to be released. I guess 2K knows the year end lineup will be a tough fight and pushed the release date forward.

AC!D

10-16-2008, 04:09 PM

Good news this means Bioshock 2 wont be a timed exclusive on 360 like i originally thought it might be so i hope you guys support this game when you have the funds.

Im also trading in my 360 version for this. I hope the DLC arrives soon.

Matt

10-16-2008, 06:48 PM

To anybody who decides to buy this, you won't be disappointed.

Sephiroth_VII

10-16-2008, 07:51 PM

I'm buying :hugegrin:

And 10/10 from Eurogamer? I know it's not exclusive, but still, wow...

masteratt

10-16-2008, 08:41 PM

Buying also (god bless student loans :D)!

Diresu

10-16-2008, 09:39 PM

Buying also (god bless student loans :D)!

Yep. Those loans don't hurt till later >.> haha

Segitz

10-16-2008, 10:36 PM

Yep. Those loans don't hurt till later >.> haha

Well, they usually shouldn't hurt that much, because by the time you have to pay them back, you are a <insert favourite graduation here> and can work for nice cash... (at least that is how it is in Germany...)

cliffbo

10-17-2008, 10:52 PM

here is the vid of Bioshock 2. and i think the thread titles are getting way too long now. never take a good idea and milk it to the max. release date is fine. otherwise we might as well have the full review as the thread title.

http://www.ripten.com/2008/10/16/bioshock-2-exclusive-reveal-trailer/#more-7743

masteratt

10-17-2008, 10:54 PM

and i think the thread titles are getting way too long now. never take a good idea and milk it to the max. release date is fine. otherwise we might as well have the full review as the thread title.
haha :lol:

VG Aficionado

10-17-2008, 11:02 PM

I was thinking the same, I just shrinked it a bit. Will get shorter closer to the release date.

OmniCloud

10-17-2008, 11:56 PM

Bioshock was definitely one of the more creative games that's come out...but 10/10:huh: not even close...

Good game though...story lovers will enjoy it, it's very coherent and it's another one of those games that's proof how important story is in making a memorable, lasting mature game comparable to a good film.

AC!D

10-18-2008, 01:48 PM

PS3 Bioshock DLC Coming Next Month (http://kotaku.com/5065336/ps3-bioshock-dlc-coming-next-month)

Even as the PS3 version of Bioshock lumbers center stage. 2K games has announced a release date for the first exclusive PS3 DLC.

This comes in the form of Challenge Rooms - areas designed to test specific skills that the player will have learned as they explorer Rapture. The self-contained areas feature puzzles and difficult obstacles that can only be overcome in a set time limit by applying your hard-won skills.

The DLC will be available via PSN on November 20th, although no pricing has yet been released.

VG Aficionado

10-18-2008, 01:59 PM

Nice. I guess the patch will arrive anytime within that month since its launch.

Matt

10-18-2008, 04:22 PM

Saw the game on sale for £35 at Gamestation yesterday. Anybody from the UK bother buying it?

Raitei

10-18-2008, 04:46 PM

nope

i may possible pick it up on the 360 for cheap... or borrow it from a friend....

maybe pc...

i just cant seem to justify full price when its cheaper on two other platforms (the dlc just doesn't warrant it)

Matt

10-18-2008, 04:47 PM

Yea, I got it on the 360 because I couldn't justify spending the extra for what little has been added. You should be able to pick up a copy on the 360 for about £15 or so. The Gamestation down here had about 15 copies of it, half of which were the special edition version.

Smokey

10-18-2008, 05:33 PM

didnt like the demo

10-18-2008, 09:10 PM

are the DLC free?

and yes, obviously, if you have another platform supporting it, get it for that. I expect it is dirt cheap on PC. I would even buy it used.

I am hearing great things about the title. I hate that time era and settings though (like Fallout's idiotic 60's theme ads). but I like FPS and I was interested in the Plasmids mechanics and combination from the very first trailers they released. I'll pick up a used copy someday.

Applefiend

10-19-2008, 01:47 AM

Think you have to pay for the DLC. It'll be pretty sweet though.

AC!D

10-24-2008, 11:50 AM

BioShock 2 officially multiplatform (http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=200127)

AC!D waits patiently for MS to allow us to get our hopes up and then dashes our dreams with news at next years E3 that Bioshock 2 is six months exclusive to 360.

VG Aficionado

11-04-2008, 12:54 AM

Release date and price for the exclusive DLC (http://psinsider.e-mpire.com/index.php?categoryid=17&m_articles_articleid=1019)

Note the source :cowboy:

AC!D

11-04-2008, 01:00 AM

Damn that third challenge map seems really cool. I was hoping to get Bioshock on PS3 on the cheap but this DLC is tempting.

A Shocking Turn of Events - A Little Sister is trapped atop a Ferris wheel in an undisclosed location in Rapture. Using only the tools and environment around them, players must use their wits to create electricity to power the Ferris wheel and bring the Little Sister to safety.

The I in Team - Using limited resources, and an even more limited arsenal, players must negotiate traps and find a way to defeat a Big Daddy using their wits instead of raw firepower.

Worlds of Hurt- Step up and take on the most grueling challenge offered in the world of Rapture. Players must battle through eight rooms of Big Daddies, Splicers and the worst that Rapture has to offer. Accumulate Adam, build an arsenal of Plasmids, Tonics and Weaponry, and fight through to rescue the Little Sister.

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=200922