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solidsnakejej
05-29-2008, 10:32 PM
The other In-game XMB was expired

from gaming-age/NeoGaf

We've finally received word that the long awaited, and much rumored, PlayStation 3 Firmware Update 2.40 is indeed the real deal and is said to be coming relatively soon. Many of the most requested features, such as a universal friends list and in-game messaging will be included, in addition to a few rather nice surprises (*cough*soundtracks*cough*). We definitely can't divulge all of the details, but trust us, it's coming.

We aren't yet 100% sure of the actual release date, but all signs point to sometime in June. We're guesing that Sony will probably detail 2.40 in the coming weeks.

http://www.gaming-age.com/news/2008/5/29-48

GTAce
05-29-2008, 10:35 PM
Take it with a grain of salt...

solidsnakejej
05-29-2008, 10:38 PM
No I believe you can trust it. There is also an EA employee that has backed it up to in the thread on Neogaf (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=303118) and jstevenson from Insomniac is eluding to it

Killing Moon
05-29-2008, 10:38 PM
HAHA, I JUST read this too. It’s about fucking time, if you ask me—I needed those friends lists badly.

Well, guess I’m getting GRID for PS3 then. Finally get to lock out all of the prepubescent douchebags who intentionally ruin games.

Z
05-29-2008, 10:51 PM
would it have killed them to have said to us back in the day that it would take a year and a half for this feature to come out?

GTAce
05-29-2008, 10:52 PM
Yes.

Z
05-29-2008, 11:02 PM
delay reaction time due to me being awake for more than 26 hours straight. this is my actual reaction to the news:

http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa188/shmookins/gifs/Shocked.gif

GTAce
05-29-2008, 11:03 PM
OMG i laughed my fucking ass of, this is hypnotic shit dude. :laugh:

Leedogg
05-29-2008, 11:31 PM
I'll believe it when I see it :cowboy:

Raitei
05-29-2008, 11:33 PM
ill see it when i believe it

if only

Rockmond
05-30-2008, 01:11 AM
I'll believe it when I see it :cowboy:

yeah.

GTAce
05-30-2008, 01:12 AM
ill see it when i believe it

if only

Z
05-30-2008, 01:53 AM
I won't believe it even if I saw it.

EvilTaru
05-30-2008, 02:02 AM
Take it with a grain of salt...

Jimbo is usually right on the money.http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v500/EvilTaru/Indifferent2.gif

LaLiLuLeLo
05-30-2008, 02:03 AM
I'm optimistic.

GTAce
05-30-2008, 02:27 AM
Im German!

LaLiLuLeLo
05-30-2008, 02:34 AM
Which means you'll get the update a week after us if you're lucky. :P

GTAce
05-30-2008, 02:38 AM
Is this some sort of the "American Dream"?

"Germans are getting FW updates later bwahahaha fucking Nazis!"

LaLiLuLeLo
05-30-2008, 02:41 AM
That would be pretty fucked up though. :lol: Your own government has gone to great lengths to see that Germans never get excited about themselves again though. Hopefully something like that will happen in America. I hate us.

GTAce
05-30-2008, 02:48 AM
I hate us.
6eka9riEUZo



Disclaimer: I am not hating the US citizens, im j/k

OmniCloud
05-30-2008, 03:18 AM
This would be cool...but I'd rather see Home actually come out this year;)

This was one of the biggest features for me before. But now, that more and more good games are starting to come out with good music--I'm starting to not care.

Besides that Stardust added custom soundtracks which was the game I wanted it for the most.

CreativeWriter
05-30-2008, 03:54 AM
The other In-game XMB was expired



This is all you need to know that Sony is late getting these features out the door.

Coded-Dude
05-30-2008, 03:57 AM
am i an optimist in thinking that they are on-time(somewhat), they were just so early getting ps3 out the door......:shrug:

Nameless
05-30-2008, 04:36 AM
I want ingame XMB messaging and invites more than Home...
I think upgrading the basic online, communication & community features are vital and Home is a nice to have at this point. I would admit Home has a lot of potential, but I want real functionality that is proven with XBox Live more than potential on the list of priorities...

Domination
05-30-2008, 05:26 AM
The other In-game XMB was expired

from gaming-age/NeoGaf


http://www.gaming-age.com/news/2008/5/29-48

This has been known for sometime already. In fact, a Sony representative annouced the firmware version in which this update would take place (2.4) many months ago. So I'm not sure what the big deal is right now. Did people not think that it was coming or something?

solidsnakejej
05-30-2008, 05:29 AM
What I think happened from reading around is that the devs got a update that had this information recently and this is how they got the information. and it's not only In-game XMB it several things from what has been said. And instead of summer date it was narrowed down to June.

CreativeWriter
05-30-2008, 06:38 AM
am i an optimist in thinking that they are on-time(somewhat), they were just so early getting ps3 out the door......:shrug:

This would be true if the 360 didn't already have analogous features. Home, for instance, is "on time" because there isn't anything similar (or planned) on the competition's console. Your larger point, that the PS3 was early, both on Sony's own timeline and on HD market penetration, is sound.

Hisham
05-30-2008, 08:00 AM
I want ingame XMB messaging and invites more than Home...
I think upgrading the basic online, communication & community features are vital and Home is a nice to have at this point. I would admit Home has a lot of potential, but I want real functionality that is proven with XBox Live more than potential on the list of priorities...

Hit the nail on the head.

dendj55
05-30-2008, 01:49 PM
Hoping to see this in June... not holding my breathe.

FantasyGhost
05-30-2008, 09:17 PM
Bioshock dev: http://forums.maxconsole.net/showthread.php?p=950428&posted=1#post950428

Rockmond
05-30-2008, 09:24 PM
Bioshock dev: http://forums.maxconsole.net/showthread.php?p=950428&posted=1#post950428

WTF!?

Fillibuster
05-30-2008, 09:25 PM
^I know right? Looks pretty legit

GTAce
05-30-2008, 09:39 PM
Theres also a date and a clock, nice.

Domination
05-30-2008, 09:44 PM
Bioshock dev: http://forums.maxconsole.net/showthread.php?p=950428&posted=1#post950428

Given that June is only a day away and we already knowing (at least myself) for some time that the upgrade would launch in the 2.4 update, I would say that this video is damn close to legit as it may possibly get.


Oh, and here's that guy that confirmed the 2.4 launch awhile back:

Talks of an in-game XMB are so frequent that we've got a keyboard macro dedicated to the phrase, but the waiting will finally be over this summer, according to SCEE big shot Ray Maguire.

Speaking to MCV of his glee at PS3 having reached 1 million sales faster than both the PSOne and PS2, Maguire said: "Our momentum will continue with the introduction of in-game communication in the summer, firmware update 2.4 and the strongest line-up of games through our third party partners and our own studios."

In-game XMB access is a must because at the moment you can't access your friends list during a game, which is nothing short of madness.

But the gem in that statement - the imminent arrival of "in-game communication", should rectify these issues and the confirmation of a "summer" release helps to nail down the previously vague "2008" promise.

We wonder what other goodies will be in Firmware 2.4, and we also wonder when we became such firmware geeks. Read our huge '10 Steps to Perfect PS3 Firmware' feature to see what we mean.

source (http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=183782)

GTAce
05-30-2008, 09:49 PM
Now im not only German, im also optimistic like LaLi.

Domination
05-30-2008, 10:02 PM
LIVE has nowhere to hide. In what it took Microsoft years to establish, Sony is chasing them down in record time. Soon enough, I'm betting Home is where it'll all start, they'll surpass them before this gen is out.

Sephiroth_VII
05-30-2008, 10:14 PM
I think will at least equal LIVE on all fronts when the PS4 is released. We need a totally revised TRC for that to happen, which isn't likely in the middle of a generation.

Bioshock dev: http://forums.maxconsole.net/showthread.php?p=950428&posted=1#post950428

Would someone please be kind enough to upload all the videos to Mediafire or something in a .rar file? I can't seem to download them from Filefront.

GTAce
05-30-2008, 10:24 PM
Deactivate ABP, there should be a flashwindow, YouTube like.

supagohan
05-30-2008, 10:25 PM
psst go back to the neogaf.com thread. thar be video treasure on pg 3

Hisham
05-30-2008, 10:34 PM
LIVE has nowhere to hide. In what it took Microsoft years to establish, Sony is chasing them down in record time. Soon enough, I'm betting Home is where it'll all start, they'll surpass them before this gen is out.

It is still not there yet. The better online infastructure goes to M$, and it will probably stay that way for years to come. I don't see Home as the thing that will be surpassing them, atleast not yet. Perhaps by the time PS4 comes out, but I really don't think it will happen before then. You have to remember, Live is also updating as well, so I believe Sony isn't gonna surpass M$ just yet. It will happen (if you follow the continuing trend), but it won't be that quick.

VG Aficionado
05-30-2008, 10:53 PM
msXguZCasjw



34oGsMIZaio

masteratt
05-30-2008, 10:55 PM
DATE AND TIME ON THE TOP RIGHT!
DATE AND TIME ON THE TOP RIGHT!

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!

Believe it or not I care about that more than in game messaging (I don't have many friends you see).

Raitei
05-30-2008, 10:58 PM
we believe you =]

masteratt
05-30-2008, 11:02 PM
...Obviously.

Sweet vids by the way VG.
That guy is playing Bioshock AND has in-game XMB.

Luckiest man in the world?
Maybe if he has a hot girl waiting in bed for him but even without the last thing he is pretty close to being the luckiest man in the world.

And since everyone loves comparing, this beats Xbox's in-game blades since it gives you access to the whole of XMB while Xbox gives you limited access to certain related things.

Seriously though, the clock :drool:

Raitei
05-30-2008, 11:08 PM
...Obviously.

Sweet vids by the way VG.
That guy is playing Bioshock AND has in-game XMB.

Luckiest man in the world?
Maybe if he has a hot girl waiting in bed for him but even without the last thing he is pretty close to being the luckiest man in the world.



he would need some cake to be THE luckiest man alive, free chocolate cake at that :P

GTAce
05-30-2008, 11:11 PM
And since everyone loves comparing, this beats Xbox's in-game blades since it gives you access to the whole of XMB while Xbox gives you limited access to certain related things.
It will be the same with the XMB, just like while chatting.
You wont be able to access everything, i bet that with you, soo dont get hyped too much please or Sony is the bad bad company at the end again.

masteratt
05-30-2008, 11:15 PM
As long as my clock is there, I'm happy.

Kiosko
05-30-2008, 11:32 PM
My sister gave me free chocolate cake a week ago. Haha. Anyhow, this is great news! The Long awaited MGS4 and the long awaited XMB are almost here! And I will finally be able to get Bioshock. It's a great new start on the path to success. It can only go up from here.

LiquidEagle
05-30-2008, 11:52 PM
Maybe those videos aren't real though? Maybe he just took some videos of Bioshock and since you can tap the PS button while a video's playing it'll put the XMB on top of it while the video still plays in the background... I still definitely think it's coming, I'm just saying.

masteratt
05-30-2008, 11:55 PM
That's awesome editing if he did that this convincingly.
I'm not saying the vids can't be fake, I'm just saying, kudos for the good editing if it is fake.

And yeah, we know you know in-game XMB is coming.
Everyone knows by now lol (http://forums.e-mpire.com/showpost.php?p=1891107&postcount=3)

GTAce
05-30-2008, 11:56 PM
Yeah bt then there wouldnt be a clock.
Also look at the posted pics from FantasyGhosts link.
Seems legit to me.

LiquidEagle
05-30-2008, 11:57 PM
hmmm... true. Maybe I'm just so jealous that they have Bioshock on PS3 already, AND in-game XMB, AND a clock, that I'm in super denial :-p

VG Aficionado
05-30-2008, 11:57 PM
The background is paused while the XMB is active. You can also see things like the date and time, the trophy icon, the new PS button icon in the little help menu on the low right corner... There are a lot of details in those videos that make them seen legit, specially given the timing of the seemingly substantiated rumors.

masteratt
05-31-2008, 12:00 AM
Sony is smart, did you guys know that? lol

No really, they brought DualShock 3 with GT5: Prologue and bringing in-game XMB/ Trophies with MGS4.
Awesome planning.
They are guaranteeing very easily (and cheaply) that everyone will know about these new features/ accessories without spending billions on advertising, they just put a sticker on a GT5 box saying "Dualshock 3 compatible" and done. lol

So does this mean HOME to launch with God Of War 3? :p

GTAce
05-31-2008, 12:00 AM
Im so happy i could eat a whole parrot! :thumbr:
No really, they brought DualShock 3 with GT5: Prologue
Where???
Oh wait i live in Germany sorry...

So does this mean HOME to launch with God Of War 3? :p
With Little Big Planet in October.

Colin™
05-31-2008, 12:07 AM
Wow, now I understand why it took them a year and a half to implement this....

masteratt
05-31-2008, 12:11 AM
Where???
Oh wait i live in Germany sorry...
Haha.
Actually quick tip for you man.

I got mine [dualshock 3] from yes-asia for $60, no VAT, no delivery charge!
That converts to £30. Suggested Retail price for Sixaxis is £45 so I saved £15.

So I got it early and less than what Sony is going to charge whenever it DOES relese here so yeah man, go check it out- http://global.yesasia.com/en/index.aspx
Maybe it'll be much cheaper for you too (too lazy to do Euro convert myself :p).

Please don't play MGS4 without rumble!
(the only reason i imported dualshock 3 is MGS4).

GTAce
05-31-2008, 12:12 AM
@Colin: I... dont...... :huh:


Well okay i think i do but.. why now? And why do you understand this now?
I dont understand this.

EDIT: I will buy one when one of my SIXAXIS is dead, i love the weight.

masteratt
05-31-2008, 12:15 AM
MGS4 without rumble?....You sure?

Well, okay.

GTAce
05-31-2008, 12:20 AM
No i just asked where it is because you said Sony is genius to bundle features with games, but they only did it in the NTSC territories, which isnt that awesome.
But thanks anyway.^^

EDIT: I hate EDITS!

I dont have the money for a new controller and its not necessary.

Raitei
05-31-2008, 12:25 AM
I... dont...... :huh:


Well okay i think i do but.. why now? And why do you understand this now?
I dont understand this.

EDIT: I will buy one when one of my SIXAXIS is dad, i love the weight.

what a masculine sxs you have

GTAce
05-31-2008, 12:26 AM
Ahh fuck you. :laugh:

EDIT: EDITED!

VG Aficionado
05-31-2008, 12:58 AM
Reposting for the new page :cowboy:

msXguZCasjw

34oGsMIZaio

GTAce
05-31-2008, 01:19 AM
Reposting for the first who posted this:
Bioshock dev: http://forums.maxconsole.net/showthread.php?p=950428&posted=1#post950428

:-p

Jay Gee
05-31-2008, 01:40 AM
Saw the image of the trophy support for this game. I wonder if the devs are going to differentiate between trophies and achievements as opposed to just having trophies be achievements only with a different name attached. Either way, I'm guessing that MGS4 is also going to support in-game XMB and trophies, so June 12th can't come soon enough. And woe is me if this update drops before MGS4 and I have to go back to older games to get trophies. I hope acquiring the trophies will have some significance in HOME.

Diresu
05-31-2008, 01:54 AM
As neat as that is, that guy is so fired.

Leedogg
05-31-2008, 02:03 AM
As neat as that is, that guy is so fired.

but its so so so worth it.... :cloud9:

GTAce
05-31-2008, 02:04 AM
For us... not for him. LOL

VG Aficionado
05-31-2008, 02:10 AM
:lol:

Diresu
05-31-2008, 04:32 AM
For us... not for him. LOL

My thoughts exactly, lol

TimmyJ
05-31-2008, 06:16 AM
Does anyone remember some surfer girl type stating around early march time that dev kits were being released with this feature available? Methinks the timing may have proved them to be telling the truth...

Jay Gee
05-31-2008, 12:31 PM
The guy doesn't deserve to be fired, IMO. I know it's NDA and all that, but if Sony can release a fucking shirt that says "In-shirt XMB" and then go "LOL just kiddng," why get upset when somebody shows THE CONSUMER an additoin to their console that should've come straight out of the fucking box to begin with?

Sephiroth_VII
05-31-2008, 01:19 PM
I think this is the point where I remind you all that the devkits, due to their 1 GB of ram, have always had in-game XMB (http://youtube.com/watch?v=VszZ_63Ap8I).

The only new thing here is the clock.

Domination
05-31-2008, 01:58 PM
It is still not there yet. The better online infastructure goes to M$, and it will probably stay that way for years to come. I don't see Home as the thing that will be surpassing them, atleast not yet. Perhaps by the time PS4 comes out, but I really don't think it will happen before then. You have to remember, Live is also updating as well, so I believe Sony isn't gonna surpass M$ just yet. It will happen (if you follow the continuing trend), but it won't be that quick.

I disagree. The thing is you expect for PSN to match LIVE to a point where there is no difference at all before granting it triumph. That's not how it works. NO individual method to anothers answer will ever be an indentical match in order to surpass them. For the simple fact that PSN is free, dedicated, and covering most of the robust features on LIVE in its own unique way and extras like Home, which LIVE does not support, to allow for a more open community is why it is on the verge of overtaking LIVE before this gen is out.

Let me also add that Sony has manage to catch LIVE in less than half the time it took Microsoft to get where they are now. So I think it's a bit preposterous to say that something can't be achieved in a certain amount of time dispite the fact that we are already witnessing this in broad view between the two as it stands today. Since the launch of the PS3, Sony has been moving towards LIVE with a jet pack on. Compared to PS Online, there are very few advantages LIVE can actually justice superiority over the competition this gen, and I can tell you now that those few advantages are starting to fade rather quickly.

Raitei
05-31-2008, 07:29 PM
playstation lifestyle have it under 'exclusive info' that the firmware will hit on the 10th

GTAce
05-31-2008, 07:36 PM
Whats "PlayStation Lifestyle" and why do THEY have such an info exclusive?

Xclusion
05-31-2008, 07:40 PM
I think this is the point where I remind you all that the devkits, due to their 1 GB of ram, have always had in-game XMB (http://youtube.com/watch?v=VszZ_63Ap8I).

The only new thing here is the clock.

my how quickly you've forgot the trophy pics.

masteratt
05-31-2008, 09:09 PM
Date given! (http://playstationlifestyle.net/2008/05/31/240-and-when-to-expect-it/)

GTAce
05-31-2008, 09:13 PM
playstation lifestyle have it under 'exclusive info' that the firmware will hit on the 10th

Whats "PlayStation Lifestyle" and why do THEY have such an info exclusive?

masteratt
05-31-2008, 09:18 PM
They are very reliable is all I know.
Most of the writers for the site have insider contacts.

GTAce
05-31-2008, 09:22 PM
I never heard from them.

masteratt
05-31-2008, 09:27 PM
I can't remember what they got right before but at 10th, you'll add them to your 'reliable source' list lol

But for now yeah, you have every right to not care what they say.

GTAce
05-31-2008, 09:31 PM
I actually wouldnt believe this neverthless which site except threespeech and the PS Blog.
Videogame journalism is too stupid nowadays.

Sephiroth_VII
05-31-2008, 09:44 PM
my how quickly you've forgot the trophy pics.

Clock and trophies then. But the most imporant part, in-game XMB, is no more confirmed by this video than it was by the one I posted.

Jay Gee
05-31-2008, 09:52 PM
Then why would he go through all the trouble to take the videos? You think he's trolling?

Sephiroth_VII
06-01-2008, 04:00 AM
To show off trophies? Honestly, I have no idea, but it's a fact that in-game XMB is nothing new for developers.

Jay Gee
06-01-2008, 04:05 AM
The videos didn't show off the trophies, the pictures did.

Domination
06-01-2008, 03:27 PM
To show off trophies? Honestly, I have no idea, but it's a fact that in-game XMB is nothing new for developers.


Sure it's not. However, having access to other categories is new to developers. It would be a waste of memory if developers allowed you access to something that you are unable to use on the XMB from within game. This is the difference between in-game XMB by a developer and in-game XMB as a standard. Haven't you notice yet that regardless of having access to a music playlist while in the game, you are still unable to see and access your PC? It's a memory hog, simple as that.

Sephiroth_VII
06-01-2008, 07:28 PM
Yes, and quite annoying since 95% of my music is on my PC :(

Z
06-01-2008, 07:39 PM
there is an invention called flash memory to solve that. and if you want to get fancy, you can use a LAN setup between your PC and Triple.
http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa188/shmookins/emos/lols.gif

Sephiroth_VII
06-01-2008, 08:06 PM
I am using a LAN setup, with all my music on my media server.(Ubuntu server ftw!).

However, my media server isn't accessible when playing games with support for custom soundtracks, which is really bothersome.

Epix
06-07-2008, 03:26 PM
New clearer video of In-Game XMB (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hv-wEdM7yyI)

Gegenki
06-07-2008, 04:13 PM
what does this mean? Whats SD loader.
The game doesn't freeze when he opens XMB.

Also if all my games are going to need a patch, that means I won't be able to use in game XMB until I get the internet back. I can download firmware on the PC but I can't patch my games :(

GTAce
06-07-2008, 04:21 PM
He starts applications and games from a flashdrive i think.
Its a devkit PS3, you can also see that on the debug options.

game designer
06-07-2008, 04:37 PM
Well, it's about time this happened. Better late than never though.

cliffbo
06-07-2008, 06:45 PM
once we have it all it will mean is that 360 owners won't be able to carp on about it any more. i never cared and still don't

Jay Gee
06-07-2008, 09:37 PM
New clearer video of In-Game XMB (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hv-wEdM7yyI)
Nice. And on Ridge Racer 7 to boot. I like it.

Nameless
06-07-2008, 10:40 PM
Now enough with the videos let's get the damn update...

Jay Gee
06-07-2008, 10:41 PM
Doesn't it drop on Tuesday?

Nameless
06-07-2008, 10:47 PM
^There's a rumor it was pushed till July...

masteratt
06-07-2008, 11:28 PM
Don't blame Sony everyone. "OMG TYPICAL SONY!"!!!!!"
Sony never announced a date.

Just a little pre-emptive strike incase people start to go nuts.

Red_Eyes
06-07-2008, 11:57 PM
Sony never even confirmed the rumor to start with.

Sephiroth_VII
06-08-2008, 12:12 AM
Sony only said "Summer," so no one in their right mind can blame them unless it's released sometime this fall.

KnightRiderX
06-08-2008, 12:53 AM
for Christ's sake, it's not even Summer.

Xclusion
06-08-2008, 03:09 AM
New clearer video of In-Game XMB (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hv-wEdM7yyI)

The best thing about that video (and this is me inferring a bit) is underneath Trophy Collection it says "User 1" which leads me to believe you will be able to log in separate controls to different accounts. Way to not half ass it Sony:thumbl:

LaLiLuLeLo
06-08-2008, 03:52 AM
for Christ's sake, it's not even Summer.

Haha no, it's just hot as shit, confusing everyone.

TrueVCU
06-08-2008, 03:58 AM
Virginia/The South sucks that way

LiquidEagle
06-08-2008, 04:09 AM
Virginia/The South sucks that way

One of the reasons I couldn't wait to get out of Virginia and move out West :-p

TrueVCU
06-08-2008, 04:09 AM
^also one of the reasons I'm slowly inching my way north

Hisham
06-08-2008, 07:55 AM
It is hot as fuck here in Toronto...

Moving north will do you no good, unless you wanna go way up there like to Alaska...

Raitei
06-08-2008, 11:52 AM
its sunny this morning... but its nowhere near hot in london

OmniCloud
06-08-2008, 01:22 PM
its sunny this morning... but its nowhere near hot in londonIt's even hot here in Jersey...today it's gonna get up to 96 degrees!:-o I friggin hate this time of year...can't wait for the the fall man.

Raitei
06-08-2008, 02:17 PM
then..you know.. come to london.

3 days of sunshine a year =]

masteratt
06-08-2008, 02:21 PM
Hence the depressed locals.

Sephiroth_VII
06-08-2008, 02:52 PM
28 C here, I'm meliting!!

Raitei
06-08-2008, 03:34 PM
well.. it's hot today

so im off to the park

cheerio

OG_Monkey
06-08-2008, 03:50 PM
Like 90s all this week! Damn Gloooooooobal Waaaaaaarming. (yes....that's the correct pronounciation)


Anyway cool video, would be kinda cool if Sony just ripped off like a guide from the 360 instead of a whole damn XMB

Segitz
06-08-2008, 05:43 PM
20°C and a hailstorm...

yeah suckas, that's german weather^^

masteratt
06-08-2008, 05:44 PM
XMB >>>>>>>>>> Guide.

Don't deny it, you know it's true.

Domination
06-08-2008, 05:47 PM
what does this mean? Whats SD loader.
The game doesn't freeze when he opens XMB.

Also if all my games are going to need a patch, that means I won't be able to use in game XMB until I get the internet back. I can download firmware on the PC but I can't patch my games :(


I think you're confused with a devloper's upgrade and a system upgrade.

With a developer upgrade, only their game will diplay a limited set of options for you to access from within game on the XMB. With a system upgrade, every game has complete access to the XMB. So all you have to do is get the system update, and all of your games should be fine except for when developers start adding trophies in their game, which a lot of them don't have yet. So you'll have to upgrade your games to see your trophy under the trophy icon in the XMB.

OG_Monkey
06-08-2008, 07:03 PM
XMB >>>>>>>>>> Guide.

Don't deny it, you know it's true.

Puh...puh....hu? Puh....please

I'll find out next week ;)

Sephiroth_VII
06-08-2008, 10:00 PM
Just for the general usability and style: Hell yeah.

Raitei
06-08-2008, 10:48 PM
the guide is just silly, and not set out very well

with the xmb, everything is under its tab. I get confused with guide?

OG_Monkey
06-08-2008, 11:36 PM
i dont mean the blades....

Sephiroth_VII
06-09-2008, 12:11 AM
...Then what!?

OG_Monkey
06-09-2008, 12:22 AM
...the guide....

GTAce
06-09-2008, 12:26 AM
Whats "the guide" i thought you always navigate with the blades in the menu?

OG_Monkey
06-09-2008, 12:37 AM
Oh, well i take it upon my self for assuming you all knew, apologize. Heres a pic:

http://www.xbox.com/NR/rdonlyres/0E78B2ED-CB4B-4BCC-BB0A-36CB44350DD9/0/ILMXboxGuide.jpg
http://mattbrett.com/images/xbox360-wirelessheadset-guide.jpg

Its basically you all's "in game XMB"....just without the entire XMB literally or in this case, the blades. Thats why i was like, the entire XMB!? and stuff....

GTAce
06-09-2008, 12:39 AM
I actually find this guide very confusing.
If you used the XMB once you know where everything is (you have a PSP you know that) and i like the XMB layout very much.

OG_Monkey
06-09-2008, 12:46 AM
Thats not what im saying. I was thinking in game XMB would be a simplified version of the real XMB but just slimmed down and more quick to access what you really need like friends list,list of games and trophies, online friends etc instead of going left and right down and up through the literally, whole xmb.

Basically, i was expecting it to be something like the 360's guide, where the necessities(sp?) are available for easy and quick access.

know what im saying?...lol

GTAce
06-09-2008, 12:47 AM
I think that would be to complicated to program.
They will make it just like when youre in the chat room, the whole XMB but not everything accesible(sp?:laugh:).

the boney king of nowhere.
06-09-2008, 12:50 AM
og makes sense. that's what i was expecting.

OG_Monkey
06-09-2008, 12:51 AM
I think that would be to complicated to program.
They will make it just like when youre in the chat room, the whole XMB but not everything accesible(sp?:laugh:).

oh....

og makes sense. that's what i was expecting.

ah, im glad you understood mixed and jumbled thoughts lol

GTAce
06-09-2008, 12:55 AM
Well i agree with you, a smaller XMB with less options would be good.
But i dont think this will happen and i can live with that.

Sephiroth_VII
06-09-2008, 03:32 AM
I think they will remove the "Videos," "Pictures," "PSN" and "Network" tabs, while keeping the rest fairly intact, though the settings will probably be replaced with what we currently access by pressing the PS Button while playing a game.

masteratt
06-09-2008, 05:15 AM
Oh I get what OG is saying and I agree he has a point but PERSONALLY, I don't mind.

I'm a pro-XMB handler.

Except for the Settings tab, I always get confused there.
I always assume it's layout is in alphabetical order so when I want to go to System Settings to check my HDD space left, I always scroll all the way down alas it's not there, so I go back etc.....Stupid Sony.

Domination
06-09-2008, 09:42 PM
I think they will remove the "Videos," "Pictures," "PSN" and "Network" tabs, while keeping the rest fairly intact, though the settings will probably be replaced with what we currently access by pressing the PS Button while playing a game.

They're not removing anything. What you see, from a rough perspective of the XMB, is what you'll be getting. If you have a PSP you'll understand this.

While in-game, only certain features will be operational and viewable on the XMB under the icons. For example, you will most likely NOT be able to start a movie (despite being able to view the icon) on the XMB while a game is in session simultaneously in standard mode unless a developer physically implement this option into their game otherwise. The same applies with both video chat and photos, also, unless developers choose to support them. You will have to quit the game in order to proceed.

Configuring settings are a toss up.

Z
06-09-2008, 10:24 PM
all I want is default cross-game invites and messengering and custom soundtracks. both have to be extremely easy to and flexible to play around with during any game.

in fact, I want custom soundtrack even more than cross-invites. that feature is a must for online gamers. there is nothing better than playing a gritty hardcore online match with soft soothing music in the background. the contrast surreal!
I look forward to playing CoD4 with Lithium playing in the background. or Wipeout HD with My Immortal. or Tekken with Froze. the list goes on.
http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa188/shmookins/emos/notagain2.gif

LaLiLuLeLo
06-09-2008, 11:37 PM
If by surreal you mean silly. Evanessence w/ shooting and fighting games. what a clown.

Raitei
06-09-2008, 11:57 PM
evanessence? you're doing it wrong

maroon 5 and ut04 was hilarious

rumors will be proved true or not tomorrow, the 10th. But don't sony always announce the dates of major updates?

TimmyJ
06-10-2008, 12:18 AM
Given the fact that the custom-soundtrack update for Burnout has been announced as the 10th of July I wouldn't hold my breath.

Kiosko
06-10-2008, 02:02 AM
Rammstein-Barbie girl blasting while while playing COD4.

GTAce
06-10-2008, 02:05 AM
You should hear "Zerstören" that fits better, also with the text. :hugegrin:

Segitz
06-10-2008, 02:58 AM
I'd vote for "Bodies" from "Drowning Pool"... although that one was played to death by too many movies already... most prominently with the recent Rambo (4) trailer... although, there it fits PERFECTLY :D

Gegenki
06-10-2008, 04:08 PM
anti-climax

-you'd think they would come out and quelled the rumour ages ago

Raitei
06-10-2008, 04:27 PM
thing is, if they did come out and deny it, they would either deny the whole thing entirely, leaving people jaded. Or deny just the date, which would confirm the contents. =]

Raitei
06-14-2008, 12:58 PM
I have word that the ingame xmb will hit next week, no later than thursday

masteratt
06-14-2008, 01:17 PM
Yeah that sounds very reliable lol

Am I the only one who only cares about this just because of the XMB clock?

In-game chatting isn't a big deal for me.
Since I had the PS3 I received messages while I was in game maybe 5 times at most.
It's all thanks to me keeping my friends list tidy.

Matt
06-14-2008, 01:19 PM
I'm sure the reason why you don't get many messages in-game is because it's a pain for people to exit the game, send a message and go back in. I used the in-game messaging on the 360 a lot when I had one.

masteratt
06-14-2008, 01:20 PM
Ah, true enough, didn't see it that way :doh:

Raitei
06-14-2008, 01:24 PM
Yeah that sounds very reliable lol

Am I the only one who only cares about this just because of the XMB clock?


take it for what its worth, just a guy saying something on the internet.
but im pretty sure i can trust this guy

Matt
06-14-2008, 01:25 PM
Did Sony ever confirm that they were gonna release it?

Segitz
06-14-2008, 01:48 PM
Yeah that sounds very reliable lol

Am I the only one who only cares about this just because of the XMB clock?


Well yeah... when playing PSP and I want to know what time it is, pressing the Home button is a huge advantage... And I REALLY can't explain to myself, why Sony hasn't this implemented that into the PS3... It just doesn't make sense...

Gegenki
06-14-2008, 04:09 PM
Its because the PS3 has a different architecture!
On the PS3 it costs 24MB of system memory to keep the clock running in the background. It would cost another 48MB to keep it on screen / ps button menu.

You know I was thinking a second ago that that is totally ridiculous but when it takes 5MB to be able to save a data to the hard drive which may be as small as a few hundred kilobytes - as was the reported memory cost which was talked about last year - you know something has to be wrong

Kiosko
06-14-2008, 08:17 PM
I have word that the ingame xmb will hit next week, no later than thursday

It makes sense. Many sites are saying June 18th.

masteratt
06-14-2008, 08:23 PM
Ah, thanks Gegenki for the explanation.

Sephiroth_VII
06-14-2008, 09:57 PM
Ah, thanks Gegenki for the explanation.

I seriously hope you didn't take that seriously.

masteratt
06-14-2008, 10:22 PM
Well it's the only explanation I ever got for it, so I did take it seriously.
And I know PS3 has memory problems so it makes sense.

And since you are being so descending on the issue, I think you have a better explanation?
...*waits to hear it*

Sephiroth_VII
06-14-2008, 11:14 PM
Aesthetics? The current XMB is very clean, even on SD. A clock would make it less "pure."

And do you seriously think a clock takes up 24mb of memory? I mean, come on. And about the memory requirements to save games, I believe Cpi mentioned it being reduced to 3 MB a while back. Likewise, the OS memory footprint and the tools such as the save feature, online startup and others have been optimized.

Also, the burnout paradise developers commented that Sony had freed up memory recently and that allowed them to add features in the upcoming patches.

Segitz
06-15-2008, 02:20 AM
Seeing as even games can read the system clock (which is more hardware than anything else... seeing as the Cell has a RTC), I doubt it is a memory contrain at ALL... I mean, it can display "Quit Game" and all that... reading the clock and displaying MUSTN'T take more than a few freaking BYTES!

lips
06-15-2008, 02:45 AM
thats a negative. If you are speaking of simple kernel calls, then perhaps you can get away with simple kilos of memory. if you take into account this kernel has no logic for display, windows drawing, and all that good stuff microsoft already includes in their kernel, you can see where memory gets used big. Sony's 256k limit on the 7th spu is a big overhead, and considering we know only a fraction of this used, compared to xbox 360's l2 overhead of over 350k, you get an idea of where the swap space is going to be.

Segitz
06-15-2008, 03:43 AM
thats a negative. If you are speaking of simple kernel calls, then perhaps you can get away with simple kilos of memory. if you take into account this kernel has no logic for display, windows drawing, and all that good stuff microsoft already includes in their kernel, you can see where memory gets used big. Sony's 256k limit on the 7th spu is a big overhead, and considering we know only a fraction of this used, compared to xbox 360's l2 overhead of over 350k, you get an idea of where the swap space is going to be.

We are talkig about a freaking CLOCK here. I can program you a lowlevel clock in DOS that uses less than 1kb for crying out loud...

Since the XMB is already partially implemented in every game (the PS Button), displaying a clock MUST NOT take more than a few kilobytes!

lips
06-15-2008, 07:58 AM
We are talkig about a freaking CLOCK here. I can program you a lowlevel clock in DOS that uses less than 1kb for crying out loud...

Since the XMB is already partially implemented in every game (the PS Button), displaying a clock MUST NOT take more than a few kilobytes!

I really cannot say what sony really uses system memory for. Without getting too heavy into it, Sony will never tell us what mem is reserved for. It will be a different bird altogether from windows and dos, we are talking about an rt os so it is a little more weighty than your average gui, or rt os for that matter.

solidsnakejej
06-18-2008, 01:13 AM
Officially confirmed v2.40 to include trophies, in-game XMB, v2.36 coming first

http://blog.us.playstation.com/2008/06/17/firmware-v236-coming-soon-v240-to-include-trophies-in-game-xmb/

GTAce
06-18-2008, 01:21 AM
But when?

Sephiroth_VII
06-18-2008, 01:25 AM
This summer.

jaxmkii
06-18-2008, 01:26 AM
of 2013 with home

GTAce
06-18-2008, 01:27 AM
This summer.

Northern or southern hemisphere? :-p

Leedogg
06-18-2008, 01:44 AM
This summer.

or winter

Hisham
06-18-2008, 05:14 AM
Or next year...

...

I hope this shit doesn't keep getting pushed back lol.

LaLiLuLeLo
06-18-2008, 05:18 AM
No reason to think it'll 'keep getting pushed back' they never said when it would be out anyway. It was always fan speculation.

Rockmond
06-18-2008, 05:26 AM
2.36 up now.

EvilTaru
06-18-2008, 05:44 AM
I want in-game xmb.http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v500/EvilTaru/angry.gif

Raitei
06-18-2008, 09:20 AM
no, lali, they did say summer

frosty
06-18-2008, 10:43 AM
OK, now this is downright pathetic. Rockstar passes the blame to Sony, claiming a fw update is needed to fix GTA4, so Sony releases the update, and GTA4 still locks up on my launch console. I still can't play it.

Segitz
06-18-2008, 02:09 PM
OK, now this is downright pathetic. Rockstar passes the blame to Sony, claiming a fw update is needed to fix GTA4, so Sony releases the update, and GTA4 still locks up on my launch console. I still can't play it.

Well, that sucks... and the only solution right now is to make a warranty exchange... which sucks too...

Fillibuster
06-18-2008, 02:13 PM
OK, now this is downright pathetic. Rockstar passes the blame to Sony, claiming a fw update is needed to fix GTA4, so Sony releases the update, and GTA4 still locks up on my launch console. I still can't play it.

Un-fuckin-believable. I honestly cannot believe either company would let this go unresolved. It's total bullshit, and I understand the %age of affected consoles is small, but come on!

LaLiLuLeLo
06-18-2008, 04:45 PM
no, lali, they did say summer

Yeah, but do you know when that is?
June 21-September 21.

Summer isn't even officially started yet. And they have a window of 3 months after that to get it out. I meant it couldn't have been pushed back since they haven't announced a date up until now. It was never claimed by them to be out months ago or last year, we were just told they were working on it. Not until a month or so ago did we finally hear 'summer'. But even that is tenuous enough to demand patience, cuz it's still spring for a few days, and summer, again, is another 3 months.
:wank::loser:

jaxmkii
06-18-2008, 05:22 PM
OK, now this is downright pathetic. Rockstar passes the blame to Sony, claiming a fw update is needed to fix GTA4, so Sony releases the update, and GTA4 still locks up on my launch console. I still can't play it.

sell GTA4... halfway though the game you start to notice there is sooo much missing from the game that used to be in the last gen GTA's

you can use the money to buy MGS4

frosty
06-18-2008, 06:23 PM
I still really enjoy playing it, (nothing more relaxing than blowing up folks for a while).

Raitei
06-18-2008, 07:05 PM
Yeah, but do you know when that is?
June 21-September 21.

Summer isn't even officially started yet. And they have a window of 3 months after that to get it out. I meant it couldn't have been pushed back since they haven't announced a date up until now. It was never claimed by them to be out months ago or last year, we were just told they were working on it. Not until a month or so ago did we finally hear 'summer'. But even that is tenuous enough to demand patience, cuz it's still spring for a few days, and summer, again, is another 3 months.
:wank::loser:

meh, i never said it should be out now, just you said they hadn't said a when, and that it was all fan speculation, and i was saying, they have said a when.

I never said the when had arrived already

curryking1
06-18-2008, 07:38 PM
But I said that you said that he said that we said that MGS4 is the best game I've ever played that he said that she said that we all said that Snake is the coolest person in the world.

True story.

Jay Gee
06-18-2008, 07:43 PM
Well said.

jako
06-18-2008, 09:33 PM
There is a new update (the 2.36) is that for in-game XMB ?

solidsnakejej
06-18-2008, 09:43 PM
No that for stability for PS1 games. 2.40 has XMB and trophies PS blog had a post on it
http://blog.us.playstation.com/2008/06/17/firmware-v236-coming-soon-v240-to-include-trophies-in-game-xmb/

Raitei
06-18-2008, 10:04 PM
But I said that you said that he said that we said that MGS4 is the best game I've ever played that he said that she said that we all said that Snake is the coolest person in the world.

True story.

thats not what i heard (well, the mgs related stuff is true)

Z
06-19-2008, 05:20 AM
We are talkig about a freaking CLOCK here. I can program you a lowlevel clock in DOS that uses less than 1kb for crying out loud...

Since the XMB is already partially implemented in every game (the PS Button), displaying a clock MUST NOT take more than a few kilobytes!
although I wouldn't use it, I still think the more options the better- as long as you can turn them on/off at will. the notice bar on XMB now is pritty useless as well- but then again, not everybody is up to date on gaming news like us. but it is okay since you can toggle it on/off as you please.
Officially confirmed v2.40 to include trophies, in-game XMB, v2.36 coming first

http://blog.us.playstation.com/2008/06/17/firmware-v236-coming-soon-v240-to-include-trophies-in-game-xmb/
but will it include custom soundtracks? that is the most important thing for me!

Z
06-19-2008, 05:21 AM
Given the fact that the custom-soundtrack update for Burnout has been announced as the 10th of July I wouldn't hold my breath.

it doesn't matter if individual games do it since PS3 already allows that. there are games already out there that support custom-soundtracks. what i want is mandatory/default custom soundtracks and cross-game invites.

solidsnakejej
06-19-2008, 05:32 AM
but will it include custom soundtracks? that is the most important thing for me!

Yes with other surprises.

Z
06-19-2008, 08:11 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SvBIyJf6el0

http://i199.photobucket.com/albums/aa188/shmookins/emos/inlove.gif

(that is how Z feels towards the custom-soundtrack news. and yes, he will use that song in CoD4)

LaLiLuLeLo
06-19-2008, 08:13 AM
Video no longer available.

Z
06-19-2008, 08:23 AM
weird, it works from Youtube's site. I added the direct URL. oh, and I know you, Lali, will especially love it!

LaLiLuLeLo
06-19-2008, 08:30 AM
Z that was a really roundabout way of telling us you're gay. I mean you didn't have to go make a MUSIC VIDEO ABOUT IT. Not even sure what that has to do with the cross-media bar.

frosty
06-19-2008, 09:43 AM
I don't know... but that has to be one of the gayest videos I've ever seen...

Jay Gee
06-19-2008, 11:15 AM
The two posts before this one are straight WIN.

masonite
06-19-2008, 12:31 PM
i got up to the piano. That was pretty gay, im guessing the rest was even gayer.

Sephiroth_VII
06-19-2008, 03:11 PM
This video is not available in your country.
Que!? :dur:

qzak
06-19-2008, 03:29 PM
Que!? :dur:

Esse video nao esta disponivel no seu pais.

Sephiroth_VII
06-19-2008, 03:37 PM
Comprendo, por que!?

Z
06-19-2008, 04:43 PM
zijn dat u het over?!

This video is not available in your country.
you are either very lucky or very unfortunate.

Raitei
06-19-2008, 05:19 PM
lucky, quite definately lucky

Hrama
06-19-2008, 05:35 PM
Agreed Raitei and yeah, that was horrifically gay. Song wasn't that bad though.

Z
06-20-2008, 02:10 PM
Song wasn't that bad though.
thank God there is in-game custom soundtracks and not in-game custom music videos. amazing how everyone missed the point of that post...and I am sure even after reading this, some will still miss the point.
guess next time I'll post a youtube link of a song I want to showcase that has a single static pic.

I'll be cautiously optimistic. I am worried that it won't be implemented well. if I host a game, can others playing with me hear my music playing? will the cross-game invites and text chat work well? will custom soundtrack support any MP3 file type?

but, on the bright side, at least it will be there. we can work any kinks on afterwards.

Raitei
06-20-2008, 06:01 PM
why would they hear your music, unless you have your mic on, (even though the ps3 MAY be able the cancel out that noise, due to it being the one providing it)

Sephiroth_VII
06-20-2008, 06:33 PM
It will probably be able to cancel out part of the noise, but if there's an echo, it could go through...

Anyway, it probably won't happen with a headset.

Jay Gee
06-20-2008, 07:48 PM
Should be just as normal as it usually is without background music playing. I'm pretty sure it'll come through as an echo the way normal game audio does on COD4 whenever I play it with the volume up high enough.

I hope my fellow players enjoy Ridge Racer OSTs, MFDOOM, and Jamiroquai as much as I do. LOL

Domination
06-24-2008, 08:21 PM
PlayStation 3 Trophies... Revealed?

A supposed Sony employee has leaked new details for the much-anticipated 2.4 firmware update for PS3.

As well as the expected in-game messaging and trophy features, the in-game XMB (Xross Media Bar) access is also said to allow you to play music during gameplay - a much-requested feature already supported by Xbox 360.

The GameFAQS poster, going by the alias Knight613 (claiming to work in R&D at Sony's Foster City branch) also says that, although you'll only have access to a limited number of the XMB's features while a game is running, you will also be able to set up Bluetooth devices, so getting your wireless headset set up won't require you to quit out. In addition, they say that it'll be released some time next week.

A picture (http://img176.imageshack.us/img176/1630/image068ur1.jpg) of the new trophy screen was also posted, and to prove he isn't just a spotted teenager with a taste for lies, Knight613 also posted a snap of his office pass (http://img57.imageshack.us/img57/1527/img0712kb3.jpg). That settles it, then. You're fired!

Of course Sony isn't commenting on any of it, leaving us to guess instead.

On a side note, Sony warns that the PSN will be down today from 8am to 2pm pacific time (4pm to 12am GMT) for "scheduled maintenance". That means no access to the PS Store, and no online gaming.

Could this be related to the looming firmware update? Let's hope so.

source (http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=191533)

http://kotaku.com/assets/images/kotaku/2008/06/ps3_trophies_leak.jpg

http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.ps3fanboy.com/media/2008/06/ps3gamercardpage1240608425.jpg


Seems legit. I say bring it on.

Domination
06-24-2008, 08:45 PM
He took down his ID - possibly afraid that he'll get in trouble for this leak. I could possibly recover it, but I'll leave his identity as he probably would have wanted it before he displayed it to preying eyes.

As far as the info goes, it's definitely a full on assault to combat Xbox Live from what I can tell. Personally, I'm more interested in everything else except this. Call me dull, but it was never really anything on the top of my list or rather demanded by me at all for that matter.

masteratt
06-24-2008, 09:54 PM
Werd^

I don't really give a shit about any of this to be honest :shrug:
It's always been pointless dick measuring competition.

If we can DO something with the trophies, now that'll be cool.
Maybe like "Get 50 gold trophies to get 10% discount" or something.

Segitz
06-24-2008, 10:11 PM
If we can DO something with the trophies, now that'll be cool.
Maybe like "Get 50 gold trophies to get 10% discount" or something.

At first, I thought that that was, what Microsoft was doing... I didn't "see" a difference between Gamerscore and Microsoft Points...

Sadly, this wasn't the case... and it won't be the case with Sony either...

What I don't get is, why they don't lower the price of the old stuff on PSN... Not only temporary price cuts, but real ones... (Especially in Europe, where I haven't seen any price drop yet)

They could however make downloadable themes or backgrounds a trophy... Although I must say, I'd find this quite lame (when I unlock things, I want real cool stuff, not something I can get on the web for free), but they could make it different... (I still have the sour taste of HSs unlockables in my mouth)

LiquidEagle
06-24-2008, 10:20 PM
There should definitely be some kind of reward besides useless and arbitrary points... Trophies will be nice to show off, but they could learn something from Insomniac's Skill Point system they put in their games.

frosty
06-24-2008, 10:54 PM
Though that would be nice, it is cool to have a reward system to get a bit more replay value out of older games, but in the end it comes across as gimmicky (even on XBL). The other features are what have me exited.

Though it would be cool if like... you get all achievements on a first party game, you get money put in your psn wallet, or if it's third party, free DLC.

GTAce
06-24-2008, 10:56 PM
Though it would be cool if like... you get all achievements on a first party game, you get money put in your psn wallet, or if it's third party, free DLC.
Playing would be way for fun with something like that.

KRA
06-24-2008, 11:31 PM
Though it would be cool if like... you get all achievements on a first party game, you get money put in your psn wallet, or if it's third party, free DLC.

it would be almost too cool i think.
maybe if sony haven't lost so much money on ps3 already ;)

Z
06-25-2008, 01:26 AM
I never cared for achievements or trophies or whatever, but I do care- and even feel it to be necessary- to have both cross-game invites/chat and custom soundtracks. I care for the latter even more.

I am worried that unlike 360, PS3 won't really support any MP3 file being chosen with any game. I don't know, but I feel there will still be some restrictions and more updates to support the feature in a more broader, and expected, way. what I do not want to see is Sony 'leaving it' to the devs to decide. they can have the choice for other things, but for this, it should be mandatory. it should have always been mandatory from the start. the PS3 itself should be doing this regardless of the game being played. 360 has been doing it since day one a whole year before PS3 launched and it is a very attractive and convenient feature.

PS. a little quirk that I do miss from the PS2 days is the animated 3D save files avatars. I especially loved the Japanese ones that react to you almost deleting them by crying or screaming, lol. it isn't a big deal, but it was one of the things I liked checking out. maybe trophies can replace that? I know that trophies won't all actually be 'trophies'.

pari
06-25-2008, 02:51 PM
Source (http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=191641)


Exclusive: Firmware 2.4's XMB features revealed
Wednesday 25-Jun-2008 12:00 PM View, send, receive messages, manage downloads and play music in-game. It's all here...

CVG has managed to get its grubby hands on the final list of features for the hotly anticipated Firmware 2.4 update, which was yesterday rumoured to be due early next week. But that's not the case we've been told...

Speaking under strict conditions of anonymity, a source has told CVG that Firmware 2.4 is expected to launch in around three weeks' time. A quick look at the diary reveals that E3 is just under three weeks away. It doesn't take a genius to see that Sony's pre-E3 conference would be the perfect time to launch the Sony XMB assault.

Announcing something and making it available at the same time is the way forward, as Microsoft proved by revealing Doom isn't just coming to Xbox Live Arcade, it's on Xbox Live Arcade a few E3s ago. Apple is known for this approach too.

We've also scooped the following list of XMB features that you'll be able to access in-game. Here goes:

* Friend category
* View, send, receive messages
* Manage downloads
* Set the vibration feature of the controller
* Sign in to PlayStation Network
* Register friends
* Manage Bluetooth devices
* Terminate the game
* Music category
* Use the system BGM
* Work the system BGM operation panel
* Settings category
* Assign controllers
* View profiles
* Game category
* Set audio devices
* Use the voice changer


As previously reported the update will also allow you to play back your own tunes in-game from the XMB Music column. It's unclear whether this feature will be compatible with all games or just new titles created with more recent development tools.

The system BGM will offer functions such as Play, Stop, Previous track, Next track, Change repeat mode, Change shuffle mode, Change volume (five levels). When you stop the playback of your tunes, playback of the game music will then begin.

Sony has yet to confirm or deny any of this and won't comment on rumour and speculation. If you ask us though, this is bang on the money. Not long to wait and see...

Sephiroth_VII
06-25-2008, 03:15 PM
More than enough for me. Awesome!

+rep for the messenger.

GTAce
06-25-2008, 03:17 PM
Im with Seph.
Cant wait, finally messaging and own music.

Matt
06-25-2008, 03:18 PM
Nice amount of features there. Probably won't use half of them, but the important ones are there.

Sephiroth_VII
06-25-2008, 03:22 PM
The system BGM will offer functions such as Play, Stop, Previous track, Next track, Change repeat mode, Change shuffle mode, Change volume (five levels). When you stop the playback of your tunes, playback of the game music will then begin.
Unless Sony had this planned from the beginning, it sounds like older games will need a patch. Not that I care, I probably won't replay too many of them anyway, except for R&C, Drake, GTA4 and MGS4, and I think the last one at least is new enough to support this feature.

Matt
06-25-2008, 03:25 PM
Some of the older games had the option of in-game messaging and custom soundtracks, so it could've been something that they gave the developers from the very beginning.

Sephiroth_VII
06-25-2008, 03:31 PM
They gave them the option, yes, but they had to dedicate additional memory to the OS in order to use it. The question is whether the OS memory requirements have been reduced enough since launch to allow in-game XMB in older games not programmed with it in mind.

Matt
06-25-2008, 03:34 PM
Would the games not have been patched at the time the memory reduction was made?

Sephiroth_VII
06-25-2008, 03:39 PM
Not all PS3 games have received patches, so no.

Epix
06-25-2008, 06:33 PM
...missed Pari's post above. +rep/

GTAce
06-25-2008, 06:35 PM
Source (http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=191641)

;)
But the update is new, so +rep. 8)

Domination
06-25-2008, 08:12 PM
Source (http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=191641)

"but, but, but the patents?"

For Sony, there's always a way around them, which they have proven many times over.

VG Aficionado
06-26-2008, 12:52 AM
* Friend category
* View, send, receive messages
* Manage downloads
* Set the vibration feature of the controller
* Sign in to PlayStation Network
* Register friends
* Manage Bluetooth devices
* Terminate the game
* Music category
* Use the system BGM
* Work the system BGM operation panel
* Settings category
* Assign controllers
* View profiles
* Game category
* Set audio devices
* Use the voice changer

Nice new features if true :cowboy:

VG Aficionado
06-27-2008, 01:40 AM
Stolen from NeoGAF:



Official announcement on the 30th.

The video walkthrough and official screens of in-game XMB, profiles and trophies will all be out on Monday.

Jay Gee
06-27-2008, 01:51 AM
Sweet, can't wait. I'll keep my eye out on the PSBlog for that.

TimmyJ
06-27-2008, 01:59 AM
Anyone else look at that 'leaked' list and think "fucking duh"?

curryking1
06-27-2008, 02:05 AM
"Sign into Playstation Network" is my personal favourite feature of in-game capabilities.

Lol "Terminate the game."

"Assign CONTROLLERS?!"

Orly?

masteratt
06-28-2008, 06:17 AM
Damn, I was looking forward to in-game Web Browser access.

Ah well.
That feature list might not be 100% complete or maybe it's just plain wrong.

2 days for the announcement, if THOSE news are true that is lol....So many unconfirmed information going around *head spins*

Segitz
06-28-2008, 02:20 PM
Damn, I was looking forward to in-game Web Browser access.

Ah well.
That feature list might not be 100% complete or maybe it's just plain wrong.

2 days for the announcement, if THOSE news are true that is lol....So many unconfirmed information going around *head spins*

I doubt, we'll get in-game browser access, as that one really needs RAM to operate... I'd love to see it too, but I really doubt it

Other than that... just gimme in-game messaging (and maybe let me modify the sound output options without leaving game or movie and I am all set)

yoshaw
06-28-2008, 06:48 PM
Source (http://www.computerandvideogames.com/article.php?id=191641)

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solidsnakejej
06-29-2008, 10:32 PM
Firmware 2.4 - 2 Features Videos Incoming Tonight 12AM PST!

posted on blog
But because I know what you’re going to ask about, and because we don’t traffic in rumors and/or speculation, I invite you to come back to the Blog tonight (just shy of midnight Pacific). We’ve got a video to show you.
source (http://blog.us.playstation.com/2008/06/29/playstation-around-the-web-what-we-read-5/)

in comments section
Planning 2 videos, 5 or so mins each. One for XMB features and one for Trophies. None of the previous videos has been a short as 90 seconds, just as long as it takes to show off the features and not make you sit through a lot of fluff.
source (http://blog.us.playstation.com/2008/06/28/the-psb-socomcom-weekly-recap-5/comment-page-2/#comment-75089)

VG Aficionado
06-29-2008, 10:43 PM
Awesome :hugegrin:

Z
06-29-2008, 10:47 PM
now that's news; a specific, very soon, deadline.

cheers mate. :)

Raitei
06-29-2008, 10:48 PM
coolage

now release the fecker

Jay Gee
06-29-2008, 10:53 PM
Firmware 2.4 - 2 Features Videos Incoming Tonight 12AM PST!

posted on blog

source (http://blog.us.playstation.com/2008/06/29/playstation-around-the-web-what-we-read-5/)

in comments section

source (http://blog.us.playstation.com/2008/06/28/the-psb-socomcom-weekly-recap-5/comment-page-2/#comment-75089)
*grabs dick*

VG Aficionado
06-29-2008, 11:02 PM
Firmware 2.4 - 2 Features Videos Incoming Tonight 12AM PST!

posted on blog

But because I know what you’re going to ask about, and because we don’t traffic in rumors and/or speculation, I invite you to come back to the Blog tonight (just shy of midnight Pacific). We’ve got a video to show you.

source (http://blog.us.playstation.com/2008/06/29/playstation-around-the-web-what-we-read-5/)

in comments section

Planning 2 videos, 5 or so mins each. One for XMB features and one for Trophies. None of the previous videos has been a short as 90 seconds, just as long as it takes to show off the features and not make you sit through a lot of fluff.

source (http://blog.us.playstation.com/2008/06/28/the-psb-socomcom-weekly-recap-5/comment-page-2/#comment-75089)

Reposting this for the new page. I'll update the thread title as well.

And before anyone asks: 10 hours left

Jay Gee
06-29-2008, 11:59 PM
I know the trophies are gonna have a novelty affect on me, but I'm actually pretty excited just to see how they work. It's their further integration into HOME that's really the awesome part. I'm guessing that since the vids are 5 mins each, the xmb portion will run through all of the features to familiarize everyone with how it'll work.

10 hours too long.

Red
06-30-2008, 12:07 AM
Sounds like a pure ps3 pwnage.

GTAce
06-30-2008, 12:15 AM
Cant believe that were so close to the in-game XMB everyone wanted for so long.

VG Aficionado
06-30-2008, 12:17 AM
We're also closer to the complaints. In before something like "not all features work on all games" or similar.

Anyway, I want to know what else is coming in the new firmware. The insiders have been saying there's more than the in-game XMB and trophies.

Cyrus
06-30-2008, 12:22 AM
We're also closer to the complaints. In before something like "not all features work on all games" or similar.

Anyway, I want to know what else is coming in the new firmware. The insiders have been saying there's more than the in-game XMB and trophies.

On a Finnish website a person who knows the details of the 2.4 firmware posted that google has something to do with the update as well.

Segitz
06-30-2008, 12:31 AM
8:30hrs...

VG Aficionado
06-30-2008, 12:50 AM
On a Finnish website a person who knows the details of the 2.4 firmware posted that google has something to do with the update as well.

I guess it could be the same as the search feature that the PSP got in FW 4.00.

masteratt
06-30-2008, 01:11 AM
Huh?...
Google search feature?...

You pretty much get that when you enter google.com in the browser lol.

TimmyJ
06-30-2008, 01:44 AM
Googlemail client? *crosses fingers*