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Domination
06-06-2008, 03:12 AM
The revolution will not be televised, it will be downloaded an update at a time

Back in the crazy days before the current generation of gaming consoles, the console you bought at retail was the console you had for the life of the hardware. My SNES acts exactly the same now as it did when it was first released, and outside of the addition of Xbox Live, the first Xbox system remained largely unchanged throughout the hardware's life cycle. Those days are long over, and now which version of Sony's PlayStation 3 that you bought is only one part of the equation: welcome to the firmware wars.

No console system has changed so dramatically in the time since its launch as the PlayStation 3. We rather notoriously gave the 60GB model a six when it was first released, and we stand by that rating—the system just felt undercooked. What player of high-definition media can't display content in 720p? Also, the lack of background downloading felt like a drag when we tried to use the online store. And the games were mostly terrible; there wasn't anything that looked as good as the titles on the then-mature Xbox 360, much less any evidence that the PS3 was as powerful as Sony had promised. Remember, this was the system that had been hyped from here to eternity, so it was easy to feel let down by Sony's anemic launch offerings. The PS3 never became hard to find, the price cuts began sooner than expected, and the system has been trailing both the Xbox 360 and the Nintendo Wii almost every month since it has been released.

It may sound a bit dire when you sum it up like that, but something has been happening with the PlayStation 3 since launch. The firmware has received update after update. The Blu-ray capability has become much stronger, and it may in fact be the most affordable and fully-featured high definition disc player on the market. The price has come down to a much more palatable $400 for the 40GB model, and the game selection continues to improve, with strong multiplatform support and a wide selection of exclusive games. Finally, the Sixaxis has been discontinued, and in its place now sits the Dual Shock 3: a controller with both motion-sensing capabilities and rumble.

Sony has done an amazing job of rallying behind its flagship system, and where there used to be arrogance there is a now a more realistic sense of what needs to be done, as well as a more open approach to dealing with the press and bloggers alike. Sony launched its own blog to speak directly to the consumers, for instance, and both the PlayStation blog in the US and ThreeSpeech in the UK do a great job of providing news; both sites also have many developers and publishers interacting directly with the comments. Even the commercials for the system have gotten better. This approach seems to be saying one thing to console gamers like us, who were unimpressed with the system at launch: "We're different now. We understand what went wrong. Come home to the PlayStation you know."

So today, in light of all that has changed since the system's launch, we're going to re-review the PlayStation 3 by taking a look at the system you'll get if you buy one today, not the system that launched in November of 2006. Trust us, it's no longer a six.

full report (http://arstechnica.com/reviews/hardware/playstation-3-blu-ray.ars)

I agree with the author on so many accounts even though he obviously wasn't aware at the time of the newest improvement that has just recently arrived for the system. However, some of his later commnets on the negatives are being addressed, based on announcements and footage by Sony, to take place relatively soon on the platform, but I'll let you give your opinion on the subject after you read the report, though. ;)

masteratt
06-06-2008, 03:18 AM
This approach seems to be saying one thing to console gamers like us, who were unimpressed with the system at launch: "We're different now. We understand what went wrong. Come home to the PlayStation you know."
Done and done! Quote of the year right there.
Awesome writing.

THIS is journalism.
Looking at it objectively, well researched and entertainingly brought together.

These are the kinds of writing we should be supporting by making threads about them.

I'm going to go read the full report now (very long which is good as I was looking for something to dive into) and I'm sure it will please me as much.

By the way it's new score is:
9.

yoshaw
06-06-2008, 05:05 AM
Done and done! Quote of the year right there.
Awesome writing.

THIS is journalism.
Looking at it objectively, well researched and entertainingly brought together.

These are the kinds of writing we should be supporting by making threads about them.

I'm going to go read the full report now (very long which is good as I was looking for something to dive into) and I'm sure it will please me as much.


I beg to differ. I mean the part where you say THIS is journalism. The writing is alright, I agree. A good read, no doubt. But it felt quite cheesy to be very honest with you. Some bits I'd argue he's gone way over board.

Anyways, good call on re-reviewing the console for himself. I mean, IMO, he needed a wake up call for himself more than others. Not that this guy had any effect on sales earlier in the PS3 days when he gave it a 6 or whatever. I doubt giving a new score would help sell 10 or so PS3's.

masteratt
06-06-2008, 05:08 AM
It's a "let's make up" article, of course it sounds a bit cheesy lol

Derrick Barra
06-06-2008, 05:50 AM
Excellent article, although he's a bit behind on the times when it comes to some of the really big problems with the sixaxis controller (random unsynching issues) and mentioning the upcoming firmware update that has in-game cross media bar.

All in all it was a good read, but anybody on the E-mpire boards already knew what he was talking about a long time ago, so I agree with the thought that he's coming to grips with the PS3 now and this article was for himself, or as a bit of a apology to the Playstation fans on the site.

masteratt
06-06-2008, 05:58 AM
It's informative to people who don't follow too closely.
They'll see it and think "oh PS3 improved" and think about buying it maybe.

He is basically doing the console justice since he says, the PS3 change has been more drastic than any other console and I think he is right.

But yeah it's useless for us lol

Viper
06-06-2008, 05:29 PM
They have most certainly pulled a comeback but their not out of the woods just yet. So long as they keep at it, they'll be fine in the long run. They won't dominate, might not even pass the X360 globally (current pace would take 2 years) and they're still losing money on hardware BUT they didn't quite when they could have, they put on their game face when it was needed and are determined to ensure those that bought, or will buy, a PS3 will not regret the decision.

That last bit in principle means more than anything.

Red_Eyes
06-06-2008, 06:31 PM
They will dominate eventually.

Z
06-06-2008, 07:52 PM
with all the gambles and pressure of releasing early, I would declare victory for the PS3 project if it only becomes profitable regardless of its position compared to its competitors. the biggest gamble was BD, and they won that. if BD does end up taking off and if Cell will be adopted for the next system, then things will be perfect. that and nVidia will be there from the start.

PS3 has managed to stand up. from now on, you have a hard time finding 3 party games that aren't coming out for it. also, it's heavy hitting exclusives have been coming out since the end of 07. things do look brighter than many could have guessed from the first few months after the system's release.

I particularly love the hardship and mess Sony went through putting PS3 where it is today. if it doesn't kill you, it'll make you stronger. now you KNOW they won't fuck things up again for a while. sometimes, a bitch slap is just what you need to wake up and smell the coffee. and Sony seems wide awake to me now.

yoshaw
06-06-2008, 08:58 PM
They have most certainly pulled a comeback but their not out of the woods just yet. So long as they keep at it, they'll be fine in the long run. They won't dominate, might not even pass the X360 globally (current pace would take 2 years) and they're still losing money on hardware BUT they didn't quite when they could have, they put on their game face when it was needed and are determined to ensure those that bought, or will buy, a PS3 will not regret the decision.

That last bit in principle means more than anything.

Couldn't have said it better!!


I particularly love the hardship and mess Sony went through putting PS3 where it is today. if it doesn't kill you, it'll make you stronger. now you KNOW they won't fuck things up again for a while. sometimes, a bitch slap is just what you need to wake up and smell the coffee. and Sony seems wide awake to me now.

:laugh: ROFLMAO!!!

Sephiroth_VII
06-06-2008, 09:39 PM
I think this generation has been a good and necessary one for Sony. They had gotten too comfortable in the number 1 spot, now they're down to earth and realistic again.

Domination
06-06-2008, 09:57 PM
with all the gambles and pressure of releasing early, I would declare victory for the PS3 project if it only becomes profitable regardless of its position compared to its competitors. the biggest gamble was BD, and they won that. if BD does end up taking off and if Cell will be adopted for the next system, then things will be perfect. that and nVidia will be there from the start.

PS3 has managed to stand up. from now on, you have a hard time finding 3 party games that aren't coming out for it. also, it's heavy hitting exclusives have been coming out since the end of 07. things do look brighter than many could have guessed from the first few months after the system's release.

I particularly love the hardship and mess Sony went through putting PS3 where it is today. if it doesn't kill you, it'll make you stronger. now you KNOW they won't fuck things up again for a while. sometimes, a bitch slap is just what you need to wake up and smell the coffee. and Sony seems wide awake to me now.

As humorous as that is, it's the honest truth. But the strange thing about their change is that I kinda knew that it would turn up this way in the very end; I just wasn't sure how it would be done. Sony coming up with a solution and adapting has always been apart of their pedigree, not to mention the process is always slow in the begining.

game designer
06-07-2008, 04:21 PM
I agree with the author on so many accounts even though he obviously wasn't aware at the time of the newest improvement that has just recently arrived for the system. However, some of his later commnets on the negatives are being addressed, based on announcements and footage by Sony, to take place relatively soon on the platform, but I'll let you give your opinion on the subject after you read the report, though. ;)

A good read there.

TrueVCU
06-07-2008, 05:23 PM
Great article, and it's ogod to see people are willing to go back and reevaluate the PS3 as it stands now, as opposed to many I've seen who are content to hound the system based on the launch issues which have now largely been addressed. All that's left to do now is wait for the library of exclusives to continue to expand and improve.

cliffbo
06-07-2008, 05:55 PM
a bucket load of info and gossip:

http://forums.n4g.com/m_146430/mpage_1/key_/tm.htm#146430

Red_Eyes
06-07-2008, 06:39 PM
http://img379.imageshack.us/img379/9231/dsc00076hr9.jpgToo bad movie tie-in game are usually never that good but the movie should be good.

cliffbo
06-07-2008, 06:41 PM
Movie tie-in game are usually never that good.

it's unfortunate that you are right... but it's true.

Segitz
06-07-2008, 07:49 PM
it's unfortunate that you are right... but it's true.

Sadly, the other way round also has a pretty dark past...

I mean, Mortal Kombat, Silent Hill etc. are good franchises that really lend themselves to moviemaking, yet they were botched from the beginning (MK being fucked by getting a PG13 rating... WHO ORDERED THAT?). Same with Doom any many others.


I remember the late 80s and early 90s, where Amiga was king in my home. There were many movie tie-ins that were really great (especially "Indiana Jones and the last Crusade", but that was done by Lucasarts, king of PoC Adventures!). But there were others, really really good ones. Like "The Spy who loved Me" or "Platoon" or "Rambo".

The problem nowadays mostly seems to be, that they are bound by a deadline and can't finish their games on time (back then, gamedevelopment took a week from start to finish, more or less^^), but also because some bigwigs steer the development, and not "gamers" (or people who make games for a living).

cliffbo
06-07-2008, 07:56 PM
don't start me on Silent Hill! they turned a unique, enigmatic franchise into a typical clichéd Hollywood flick.