Terminator 4 : Future Salvation (2009)

[TEEDA]

Terminator Salvation: The Future Begins" will reinvent the cyborg saga with a storyline to be told over a three-movie span. The film is set in the future, in a full-scale war between Skynet and humankind.

Set in post-apocalyptic 2018, John Connor (Bale) is the man fated to lead the human resistance against Skynet and its army of Terminators. But the future Connor was raised to believe in is altered in part by the appearance of Marcus Wright (Sam Worthington), a stranger whose last memory is of being on death row. Connor must decide whether Marcus has been sent from the future, or rescued from the past. As Skynet prepares its final onslaught, Connor and Marcus both embark on an odyssey that takes them into the heart of Skynet’s operations, where they uncover the terrible secret behind the possible annihilation of mankind

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TERMINATOR SALVATION TEASER (http://rss.warnerbros.com/terminatorsalvation/)

T-600 revealed

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[TEEDA]

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A little featurette documentary showing the artistic direction and introducing 10 new terminators , it's worth watch it.
New sequences from the movie as well. Like the " Harvesters " new giant big terminators " and the Motors-terminator.
And a look at the freaky T-600.

http://www.dumbdrum.com/terminator-salvation-featurette-the-art-of-martin-laing/

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[Gummy]

damn, I'm looking forward to this.

[TEEDA]

I m also looking forward to see it. Hopefully it will be better than T3...The war setting could be interesting. I m hyped by the new terminators we' re going to see.
Bale is a good choice for interpretating John Connor. Can't wait till next year.
It's my most anticipated movie with Xmen Origins : Wolverine and transformers 2

[Viper]

Already shaping up to be much better than T3.

[Gummy]

^indeed.
John Connor fully grown up and the war has actually started or going to anyways.
The terminators looks pretty damn good to me.

[Viper]

Reminds me of the chaotic yet utterly fantastic war in the Matrix 3.

[TEEDA]

Reminds me of the chaotic yet utterly fantastic war in the Matrix 3.

yeah I thought about that too. I remember people flamed Matrix revolution because it was boring but I actually really like the war with the humans using mechas with big machineguns it was really well done !

We' re going to see Daytime battles , but I really hope to see hundreds and hundreds of terminators like in the flashback scenes from T1 and T2 movies...
The opening of T2 was amazing...

[Viper]

The 3rd Matrix movie was rather poor comapred to the first one but that battle scene was incredibly epic. If T4 can match that AND tie in a good story, we'll have a winner.

Let's not forget this is supposed to be a 3 movie ordeal.

[seahorse]

i'll watch anything with christian bale, so i'm sold.

[curryking1]

I've never been familiar with the Terminator franchise but from everyone's posts in this thread it seems that 4 could be a good start.

[Viper]

I've never been familiar with the Terminator franchise but from everyone's posts in this thread it seems that 4 could be a good start.

No, hell no. Watch the first 2. Jumping to 4 would throw context out the window for much of the movie.

[Maximus]

No, hell no. Watch the first 2. Jumping to 4 would throw context out the window for much of the movie.

Agreed......the story in T-4 wouldn't even make sense for someone that is unfamiliar with the series. Terminator 1 is pretty old, but, it's a sheer classic. Terminator 2 was great. I didn't mind T-3 so much, but, it definitely was a slide backwards compared to the greatness of T-2.

T-4 sounds intriguing....Arnold or no Arnold....

[LiquidEagle]

i'll watch anything with christian bale, so i'm sold.

Yup. It definitely helps that it's part of the same universe as one of the greatest action movies ever made.

[TEEDA]

Agreed. Curry you should watch T1 and T2 then maybe try to keep up with Terminator : Sarah Connors Chronicles which could be linked to Future Salvation.


But yeah Terminator 4 will begin a new saga. With a modified an altered modified future from the first ones I think. T4 begins in 2019. in T2 the future scene took place in 2029.
Wonder if Schwartzy will make a guest appearance. Don't think so.

BTW : Here's the best Commercial ever made IMO for T2. (beginning at 1: 05
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I love it...

[SnakeEyez]

Looks good and definitely a most see for those familiar with the series.

[TEEDA]

concept arts
Moto terminators
Hydrobots
Harvester
Sentinels ? ( ship )
T-600.


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[Gummy]

Definitely very post-apocalyptic look!
I approve of the art work!

@the trailer vid: I remember that, it's fucking awesome!

[LiquidEagle]

Very cool designs. I wish I could see the initial dream James Cameron had of the metal Terminator skull coming through the flames...

[pfft]

I want to see it since it has my lover Christian Bale in it...

[LiquidEagle]

You'll have to get through me to get him...

(and his wife, I presume) :-p

[TEEDA]

I want to see it since it has my lover Christian Bale in it...

Here he is in all his glory just for " you" :thumbl:
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I love his performance in Equilibrium and The Dark Knight of course.
People want him to play in a Metal gear Solid movie.
He's so charismatic.

[Paz]

"Come with me if you want to live".

They didn't need to rehash that line.

[nemesis121]

T2 is my favorite movie, not even the Dark Knight can replace T2, hopefully T4 will be good, T3 was bad.

[TEEDA]

New trailer :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bw_hALL7zqg

[HPK]

"Come with me if you want to live".

They didn't need to rehash that line.

The kid said it, right? Considering that's supposed to be Kyle Reese...I think it makes sense for him to say it.

[Paz]

The kid said it, right? Considering that's supposed to be Kyle Reese...I think it makes sense for him to say it.

How in the hell does that make sense at all? AT ALL?

The terminator from T2 says it to Sarah Connor. WHY IN THE HELL WOULD ANYONE IN THE FUTURE SAY IT?

Just like Trinity doing the goddamned Scorpion kick in the third Matrix film... completely unnecessary.

[HPK]

How in the hell does that make sense at all? AT ALL?

The terminator from T2 says it to Sarah Connor. WHY IN THE HELL WOULD ANYONE IN THE FUTURE SAY IT?

Just like Trinity doing the goddamned Scorpion kick in the third Matrix film... completely unnecessary.

It makes sense considering it was Reese's first line to Sarah Conner in T1.

It's just their attempt at referencing previous movies. Necessary? No. It's just a small bit of fan service.

[Paz]

It's just their attempt at referencing previous movies. Necessary? No. It's just a small bit of fan service.

It doesn't need to be in every movie.

Also, on a lighter note, any fan that requires "service" from sequels should go stuff themselves.

The repetition gets nothing but eye rolls from everyone who wants to see the series head in a new direction.

[solidsnakejej]

New trailer, looks promising.
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[TEEDA]

I was just going to post it.
Can't wait to see it.
Looks like the Asian girl is the same as in Terminator The Sarah Connor chronicle.

[blurton]

awesome

i wonder if christian bale talks like that the whole time ....

[Vishus]

I like the 3rd movie more than the first two. Yeah I grew up watching the first two.

If they can put a big metallic skull on the big humanoid robot I'd be more happy with it. To me the metallic skulls and the spaceship are signature to the series. I can't separate the other robots from other popular franchises like Battlemech.

[TEEDA]

Lol I hated the 3rd movie. John Connor was a real pussy and it didn't have more focus on Him. And I would say like lots of people that T2 is the best.
the only memorable scene I had watching T3 was the War scene in tue future and Skynet taking control at the end.

But T4 will be kind of a direct sequel to T2 I think. But in the beginning of T3 the resistance had won the war. So maybe it will also be linked to T3's ending with alternate futures.

[Greg]

The thing that made T3 great was the story about how judgment day was inevitable and everything they did only delayed it a little bit. I just that was a pretty cool direction to take the story.

[HPK]

I enjoyed T3. It wasn't on par with the first two, but I didn't think T3 was bad. It concept around it kind of made sense. Postponing Judgement Day instead of stopping it...They got rid of all of that crap at Cyberdyne, but you know plenty of other people had done research on the hand and the chip by that point.
But the T-X was weak.

[solidsnakejej]

High quality version
http://www.apple.com/trailers/wb/terminatorsalvation/

[Gummy]

T3 was enjoyable. =]

Boobage increase was awesome hahah.

Anyways, the trailer looks fuckin epic.
Definitely worth the watch and wait.=D

[HPK]

Oh yeah, T4 looks like it'll kick ass. That trailer gives me high hopes.

I doubt the movie will let me down.

[LiquidEagle]

Yeah, for sweet robot action next summer, fuck Transformers 2 -- Terminator fo sho!

[TEEDA]

New HD trailer avalaible ( different from the japanese one )
youtube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZJ8M9D0tOo

or direct DL
Terminator Salvation HD extended trailer (http://pdl.warnerbros.com/wbmovies/terminatorsalvation/trl2/TerminatorTRL2_720.wmv.zip)

Must watch !!!!

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[Paz]

So I'm guessing Worthington's character is some kind of Terminator?

[TEEDA]

That's why I'd like to find out too...
The beginning of the trailer seems odd. Of course he lost his memories of who he is. But at first he seems human. but confronting connor looks like he is some kind of Terminator.

Maybe this movie will introduce the new T-800 model as Connor infiltrate and discovers ' the new ennemy he is fighting against ".

But when Marcus Wright throws the thing in at the end of the trailer he seems to be a terminator. Well lol I don't know I want to find out next may !

[Gummy]

We'll just have to watch it in theaters guys! =]

[Black Dragon37]

The 3rd Matrix movie was rather poor comapred to the first one but that battle scene was incredibly epic.
The only reason Matrix Revolutions was poor was because Reloaded and Revolutions are one film split into two, which fucked up its pacing amongst other things.

[TEEDA]

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[Shotgun Plasma]

but what about the story of sending a good terminator back iin time, I would love to see how they stole the robot and send it back in time, even T-1000 and T-X

[TEEDA]

but what about the story of sending a good terminator back iin time, I would love to see how they stole the robot and send it back in time, even T-1000 and T-X

I think it was explained in the games T3 : rise of the machine the videogame
They captured one of them, reprogrammed it and infiltrate skynet to send it back. Because the time machine was built by skynet.

It will be certainly explained more how they did that.

or you can watch terminator the sarah chronicle series as well. it's a completion of the movies.

[Shotgun Plasma]

I think it was explained in the games T3 : rise of the machine the videogame
They captured one of them, reprogrammed it and infiltrate skynet to send it back. Because the time machine was built by skynet.

It will be certainly explained more how they did that.

or you can watch terminator the sarah chronicle series as well. it's a completion of the movies.

I stop watching that T.V. because of bad acting and weird messed up story. They don';t add up.

[TEEDA]

MCG artistic vision and approch on the movie

http://blog.wired.com/underwire/2009/01/terminator-dire.html

Exclusive Images Reveal McG's Terminator Salvation Vision
New types of killer robots and a science-inspired conception of post-apocalyptic Earth are helping McG turn Terminator Salvation into an eye-scorching sci-fi flick.

The director knows it will take considerable polish to restore the franchise's sheen in the wake of Arnold Schwarzenegger's much-maligned 2003 swan song, Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines. And he cheerfully acknowledges that some observers initially questioned the wisdom of reviving the Terminator franchise with him at the helm.

"Nobody heard 'Terminator 4' and said, 'Oh that's a great idea -- I know, let's get McG to do it!" said McG when he rolled clips from his upcoming movie in Los Angeles earlier this month. "This asshole who did Charlie's Angels, and what kind of cock calls himself McG?'"

With one eye on the screen and the other on reactions from fans and journalists gathered at the Directors Guild of American screening room, the former music video director showed off the post-Judgment Day world he's crafting for Terminator Salvation. The scenes showed new Terminator models and bleak vistas from a nuke-ravaged Earth destroyed by sentient computer network Skynet.

Work-in–progress action sequences looked impressive enough to suggest that McG and his collaborators might just restore the franchise to its former glory.

The following exclusive concept art and images reveal McG's vision for Terminator Salvation as the director talks about putting the pieces together in time for the movie's May 22 release.

Getting the Robots Right: "The first film shows Schwarzenegger's T-800 coming from 2029 back in time," McG said. "Salvation takes place in 2018, so you see the R&D that went into the T-800. It's like the polio vaccine: You've got to go through a lot of lab rats to get to vaccine. In this film, humans are the lab rats. Skynet is testing on us to figure out how to make a photorealistic, leaner, smaller, more capable machine -- the T-800."

A.I. Meets Skynet: "Artificial intelligence was so foreign during the glory days of '70s and '80s science fiction -– Blade Runner, Alien, Terminator," Mc G said. "In this day and age, it's here! You spell a word wrong on your BlackBerry, it spells it right for you. You got a bad knee, they put a titanium one in there. If you're depressed, we're not going to talk about your mom and dad, we're going to manipulate your serotonin re-uptake inhibitor and you're going to feel better in two weeks. I've always loved stories about 'That which makes us great will be our undoing.'"

Post-Apocalyptic Cinematography: "We talked to the people who monitored Chernobyl about what the world would sound and look and taste and feel like after the bombs have gone off," said McG. "Then we got a dead Kodak stock. We baked it in the sun a little bit too long to damage the film, and then we shot on uncorrected Panavision lenses that flare more easily and aren't quite as sharp as Primo lenses but have an interesting patina. Most importantly we added three times as much silver in the processing than one traditionally would to a color stock. Add it all up and you get this otherworldly, desolate feeling."

Visual Effects: "It's critical to push the visual effects forward in this film," said McG. "In Terminator 2, when Robert Patrick's head came apart, that's pushing it forward. So we hired Charlie Gibson who's won two Academy Awards and did Gore Verbinski's last four or five movies. He's up there at [Industrial Light & Magic] cooking up a few things that I can say in fairness will go beyond viewers' expectation.

Calming James Cameron's Skepticism: "I didn't want to feel like the guy who gave birth to the Terminator is against what we're doing, so I go to see James Cameron to kiss the ring and tell him what I was trying to do," McG said. "He's cordial but says, 'I'm not going to endorse your movie. I reserve the right to hate it. But I wish you well, and if you're going to make a Terminator I'd prefer you make a good one to a bad one.'

The Quest for Credibility: "To get some credibility back into the Terminator mythology, we had to show the fans we really mean business by getting a great John Connor," McG said. "To me the choice was very simple: Christian Bale."

Bale Just Says No: "I met Bale at a pub in England while he was shooting Dark Knight," McG said. "He said, "I'm not interested in action, I'm not interested in pyrotechnics, I'm interested in story. If you can get the script to a place where actors on stage could just read it, naked, and it would be compelling for two hours because the characters change and evolve, then we'd have something to talk about." We had a respectful conversation, I gave him Cormac McCarthy's The Road, Philip K. Dick's Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? to read but his answer was: "Until it's on the page, I'm not doing it."

The Jonathan Nolan Rewrite: "I went to Jonah Nolan, who co-wrote The Dark Knight," said McG, "and A) has a good dynamic with Christian, and B) he's a very intelligent guy who puts story and character at the forefront. So after Jonah worked on the script, we got Christian on board."


Co-star Sam Worthington: "Alan Horn, the guy who runs Warner Bros., likes to kid, 'If you want a tough guy, you've got to hire somebody from Australia,'" McG said. "Sam's a pretty powerful screen presence. He can hold his own with Bale in a two-shot

Connor's Story: "John Connor doesn't come into the picture saying, 'Follow me and everything's going to be cool,'" said McG. "He's just one of many soldiers when we meet him. It's like [Spider-Man] where you're Peter Parker: 'Hey I'm just a lowly high school photographer,' and he learns with great power comes great responsibility. Or the hacker [in The Matrix]: 'They call me Neo, who cares?' 'quot;No man, you're the one, you're going to lead us!' Of course Luke Skywalker, on and on, all those Joseph Campbell archetypes. So this is the story of how John Connor becomes leader of the resistance. He has to earn it."

Machine Music: "I wanted the sound of the resistance to be very delicate, reminiscent of Gustavo Santaolalla's analog guitar, so I thought of putting Gustavo together with Thom Yorke of Radiohead for the machine sound," said McG. "But their schedules were too tough, so then Danny Elfman articulated his sonic vision for the picture. He's a huge Terminator fan. I wish I could show you his house. Elfman lives in a haunted house that has strange prosthetic limbs from the turn of the century hanging on the wall.

Flesh-and-Blood Robots: "A lot of people make CG movies where actors are emoting to poles with tennis balls on top of them," said McG. "That's the last thing I wanted to do. I don't like dealing with cartoons, so to speak. I wanted real robots for the actors to interface with so you could get that grittiness and realism. There's an archetype shape to the T-800. We needed body types to suggest the robot that would combat John Connor, and Roland Kickinger is a good body type. His shoulders are huge, his waist is narrow. The [Industrial Light & Magic] guys used their calipers to measure shoulder spatial differences and said he'd make a good body double. Roland as an individual is not in the movie."


Stop Them Before They Multiply: "Imagine it's 1944 and we sneak into Hitler's Germany and find all these V-2 rockets with nuclear tips they're not supposed to have," said McG. "We'd go back to the powers that be and explain, 'This is a huge problem; it's going to change everything.' That's what happens with Connor –-he's got to raise the curtain and defeat Skynet because the launch of the T-800 means curtains for everyone."

The Third Act: "Is Skynet smart enough to use the best parts of ourselves against ourselves? Can we trust the machine?" Mc G asked. "Therein lies the rub and that's what act three is all about. The ending of this film is elliptical. It's going to make a lot of people mad and you'll see lot of people scratching their heads. It's not disposable, where you forget about it before you even get to the parking lot. It's going to make you think."

[Black Dragon37]

So Bale goes Batshit insane when the director of photography keeps on walking into a scene during filming...

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[JasonXe]

He sucks ass in batman but whatever. Theree were also accusations that he beat up his wife but there were no charges i think.

[blurton]

that just ruined my worldview

[Soda Jones]

He sucks ass in batman but whatever. Theree were also accusations that he beat up his wife but there were no charges i think.

His wife or mother charged him with "verbal assault" meaning he yelled at her. There was never any accusations of physical assault. Both are unacceptable though.

[masteratt]

So Bale goes Batshit insane when the director of photography keeps on walking into a scene during filming...

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He had every right to go nuts.

I know acting is always seen as "lulz easy job" and everyone thinks actors are on some ego-trip but there is nothing worse than a noob on the set.

From the audio you can figure it's not the first time he has done this (walking on the set during a shoot) and when the director says "Action" or when the camera is rolling or when actors are obviously putting on a scene (yeah, three big hints there), you should stay the fuck still, it's not hard.
Or at least don't wonder in front of the camera like some brainless idiot.

I loved his response "uhh, I was checking the lights" ....Yeah because everyone knows you do that AFTER the scene has started? lol

Shane Hurlburt is the DPs name btw, try to spot him in this picture, it's not hard, he is the one who looks like the dumbass:
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But yeah, stress of months/ years of work + such a noob mistake made more than once = Bale rightly pwning his ass.
It's him that should turn professional, not Bale that should turn "less angry".

[blurton]

i disagree completely

that guy didnt deserve that

fuck the movie, its just a movie

where are your priorities maaaaan?

[masteratt]

Just a movie??!

Try spending 12+ months of your life creating a movie then have some brainless zombie keep walking in front of the camera like some....brainless zombie....MORE THAN ONCE AS WELL.

THEN tell me "it's just a movie!"
BOO ALL OF YOU!

BOO I SAY!

That guy needs to be fired...Who the fuck walks in to a scene, seriously.
Total dumbass....I have done lots of filming for a year and had NEVER saw someone walk in front of the camera during a shoot, NEVER! And this guy is a "pro"? Pfffffffffft.

[blurton]

just not a fan of nice people being yelled at

no reason to yell at him that much

[masteratt]

Bale wasn't insulting his personality, he even called him a nice guy.

Bale just emphasised....VERY strongly that he fucking sucks as a DP and if he really does keep on walking infront of the camera during shoots, Bale is right.

I'll bet a good wager that DP is only hired for that film because of his contacts.

[TEEDA]

I agree. He should not have acted like that.
I hope this will end in a good way, because I don't want to see a change in the actors for the two sequels...
But was it really the director of photography who walked in ? lol
I'd love to see that in a making of the movie.
But yeah Bale's the kind of guy who certainly has a bad temper. So you should n't piss him of.
His dark side went off. The dark knight.

[blurton]

but people should control their dark side

... like luke man

luke skywalker

[TEEDA]

a good sum up

The DP on TERMINATOR SALVATION, Shane Hurlbut, is a apparently a light tweaker. He's a fairly young DP and likes to fiddle with his lights on set during action, which is a big "NO NO" on most productions unless worked out in advance with performers. But apparently Shane was a pretty unrepentant light tweaker.

The scene in question, was a very emotional and tough scene between Christian Bale and Bryce Howard. A scene that required soul bearing and a deep level of immersive concentration. The sort of scene where everyone on set knows not to get in anyone's eye lines, and definitely not to move lights around while FILMING. You lock that shit down before the scene starts.

Bale had indeed warned the DP on multiple occasions about messing with lights while the cameras were rolling, and Bale was in the midst of a painful scene with Bryce, what was described to me as being the emotional center of the film and his character for the film.

Now, the reason I know all of this is because the person that was there, felt that it should be made perfectly clear that Christian Bale was the utmost gentleman and cool guy on set. And the DP really was doing something that professional DPs with experience just don't do. Not during a performance.
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lol from what movie this scene comes from ?

" ah da da da dah " :lol: "

[blurton]

that takes the sting away a bit

but he sure did cuss a lot

[masteratt]

EXACTLY!
Where-ever you got that quote from, BOO-YA!

Exactly what I've been saying by the way! *pats himself on the back*

[blurton]

harsh times ^^

[TEEDA]

EXACTLY!
Where-ever you got that quote from, BOO-YA!

Exactly what I've been saying by the way! *pats himself on the back*

Youtube. I posted the video link in the post above.

[Gummy]

Bale will fuck you up verbally in real life.

hahahha

I feel bad for the guy being yelled at though.

[Black Dragon37]

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[Shotgun Plasma]

^lol

[Gummy]

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[Shotgun Plasma]

Gummy, you are in huge trouble for posting that!

[Gummy]

he's dribbling, how's that trouble?

[Shotgun Plasma]

right.....(sarcasm)

[Black Dragon37]

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[solidsnakejej]

New trailer, looks pretty damn good.
http://movies.yahoo.com/feature/terminator-salvation.html?showVideo=1

[Gummy]

fucking epic!
i like the song they played, who was it?


the story seems like it would stick.
the movie got me bought yo.

[Paz]

If I was Shane I would be so excited he knew my name.

[blurton]

new trailer looks AWESOMEMEMEOUIMRME!!!

[Paz]

So I am assuming homeboy is an advanced cybernetic organism? Meaning, more advanced that Arnold was in the original?

And if so, my question is... why the hell didn't they send him back to kill John Conner's mom?

[TEEDA]

new poster
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Zombie locusts.

[Bowser]

a good sum up


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lol from what movie this scene comes from ?

" ah da da da dah " :lol: "

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[Z]

He had every right to go nuts.


Bullcrap. This guy claims to be a professional. Well, only one person alone says when to start 'acting' and when to stop and that is the director. An actor has no place overstepping the director who is responsible for almost everything. He is sitting there behind the camera and viewing everything. He knows when a scene is ruined or needs to be re-shot. A professional actor should have a switch in his brain that triggers on and off under the voice command of the director saying 'action' and 'cut'. A pro actor shouldn't compromise the scene, let alone cancel it, under any circumstances. This guy calls himself professional? Then he should've stayed in character and did his God damned job if there was an earthquake going on. Actors are supposed to ignore bystanders, the crew, what is happening around the stage and everything else. Is anyone dumb enough to think the scene was compromised and the director is sitting there eating Cheetos and playing with his cell phone?
In addition, this wanker not only ruined the scene, but he has the absurd rudeness to blame his failure and short attention span on an off camera guy that isn't even in the scene or perhaps on stage all together. Not only that, he goes on showing how fucking arrogant and big of an asshole he is buy verbally insulting the guy especially while everybody is around. The fucker knows the weight the main actor has on a movie and he knows he can get away with acting like a dickhead.

This 'actor' just proved he is an arogant prick like most Hollywood 'big shots' are. This is the worst I heard since the Gladiator main actor humiliating himself trying to improvise the great final speech in the movie written by a professional writer....
Fucking airheads.

I hope this gets spread around all over the place just to get as much attention to this piec of shit humiliating himself.

[Hisham]

Uhhh... Z.

Read this post...

http://forums.e-mpire.com/showpost.php?p=1987324&postcount=62

Dude was a lights person and he was messing with the lights DURING the scene after being given warnings about doing so.

Maybe it didn't need to be that vulgar, but I really do think the dude doing the lights deserved something more than a slap on the wrist after being warned not to do it...

[Z]

It isn't an actor's place to do that nor to end scenes.
Also, the reason this 'actor' gives for disturbing the scene himself was distraction which is the worst excuse an actor can give. That is their whole job; make-believe in public.

[blurton]

not just distraction, but the guy was actually in the shot i think, so it was already ruined

and he kept doing it over and over again

but still, christian bale probably drank a bunch of red bulls to prepare for that intense scene, so he was probably just havin ROID RAAAAAGE!!!!!!!!!!

[Gummy]

Z, I think he was just into his role, and he snapped.

Can't blame him for that.

[LiquidEagle]

Bullcrap. This guy claims to be a professional. Well, only one person alone says when to start 'acting' and when to stop and that is the director. An actor has no place overstepping the director who is responsible for almost everything. He is sitting there behind the camera and viewing everything. He knows when a scene is ruined or needs to be re-shot. A professional actor should have a switch in his brain that triggers on and off under the voice command of the director saying 'action' and 'cut'. A pro actor shouldn't compromise the scene, let alone cancel it, under any circumstances. This guy calls himself professional? Then he should've stayed in character and did his God damned job if there was an earthquake going on. Actors are supposed to ignore bystanders, the crew, what is happening around the stage and everything else. Is anyone dumb enough to think the scene was compromised and the director is sitting there eating Cheetos and playing with his cell phone?
In addition, this wanker not only ruined the scene, but he has the absurd rudeness to blame his failure and short attention span on an off camera guy that isn't even in the scene or perhaps on stage all together. Not only that, he goes on showing how fucking arrogant and big of an asshole he is buy verbally insulting the guy especially while everybody is around. The fucker knows the weight the main actor has on a movie and he knows he can get away with acting like a dickhead.

This 'actor' just proved he is an arogant prick like most Hollywood 'big shots' are. This is the worst I heard since the Gladiator main actor humiliating himself trying to improvise the great final speech in the movie written by a professional writer....
Fucking airheads.

I hope this gets spread around all over the place just to get as much attention to this piec of shit humiliating himself.

You don't know very much about Christian Bale & Director's of Photography, do you?

[TEEDA]

Yeah. Bale already said that it was'nt the first time It happened. He laready warned the director about doing the same stuff. And that it was disturbing a scene which Bale said required lots of focus and intense concentration.
The dorector of photography was not really experienced and too young I think.

[Gummy]

Well, it's all done with.

I'm excited!

[Paz]

Yeah. Bale already said that it was'nt the first time It happened. He laready warned the director about doing the same stuff. And that it was disturbing a scene which Bale said required lots of focus and intense concentration.
The dorector of photography was not really experienced and too young I think.

I think you are all missing the point of Z's very astute post.

The fact that the kid had been warned multiple times is irrelevant; the fact that Bale exploded like an alcoholic step father at something that really isn't that big of a deal (he could have pulled the kid to the side and quietly told him to either stop fucking with the lights or get off the set).

That being said, I think how it happened was much more entertaining, and even though he is an asshole, Bale is a great actor... also, as a fellow asshole, I like him even more now.

Maybe him and Russell Crowe will get together and beat down some paparazzi.

[LiquidEagle]

If Bale's an asshole for being that into his art, then so are all the greats and I love them for it. Jimi Hendrix made his bassist storm out of the studio when they were recording All Along the Watchtower because Jimi had a very particular way for the bass to go in his mind and he was essentially an "asshole" about it. Bale is a truly talented actor, and he is like that because he's very into his craft. When you get between somebody that's that driven to do things right after being warned multiple times and you're blatantly in the wrong, you deserve to get yelled at like that.

[masteratt]

read the fucking thread before replying, he DID warn him about it before! sheesh.

it's all nice and fun sitting here judging people "oh there goes a fucking actor again SHOUTING AT SOMEONE!!"

yeah because none of us ever snap after a day's work or whatever.

so take your holier than thou attitude and shove it (whoever said bale was wrong to be HUMAN).

anyway I saw the latest trailer for this movie and it looks excellent.

[Paz]

If Bale is so "into it" then he would have loved the chance to tackle a challenging scene like that multiple times.

He's an asshole, but I am not saying that as a bad thing.

[the poe collector]

Oh, I'm sorry, did I break your concentration?

http://lookingfly.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/pulp_fiction_jules.jpg

I hope this gets spread around all over the place just to get as much attention to this piec of shit humiliating himself.

This has been getting a lot of attention, but it's not going to do anything... Christian Bale is still going to be rich and star in movies and be the goddamn Bat Man. Why are you so worked up over it?

[dork]

Christian Bale is a wonderful human being. i love him.

[the poe collector]

As for the movie, which the thread is actually about, I think it's looking more and more badass and the reservations I initially had about the idea are fading away.

[dork]

what about the robot motorcycles?

[the poe collector]

I will go back in time and end you before you begin.

[Gummy]

oooh poe so cool.

I had a human motorcycle.
you start it with your cock.

[Paz]

Are you Sarah Connor?

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[TEEDA]

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[iSDK]

As much as I'm curious about this flick.... T3 really killed this series for me. I don't know if I'll watch this one.

[the poe collector]

I'm pretty sure this film completely ignores everything that happened in T3, so don't let that influence you too much.

[Paz]

The third film completely fucked up, and it had such potential... the rise of Skynet.

[Greg]

I didn't mind the third film. I didn't like the writing but the overall story line was solid and fixed a few time traveling paradoxes created by the second one.

[Gummy]

the 3rd film wasn't the best, but best we ignore it.

This one is going to be good.
come on!
put some optimism up in this bitch!

[solidsnakejej]

New 4 minute clip with lots of new footage
http://www.apple.com/trailers/wb/terminatorsalvation/

[CptKirksTights]

As much as I'm curious about this flick.... T3 really killed this series for me. I don't know if I'll watch this one.


T3 sucked but you shouldn't let it influence your thoughts on this movie. It looks pretty awesome.

[Paz]

All I can notice is the Oakley Assault boots that they keep shamelessly plugging in the trailers, and it is starting to get my hopes... down?

[TEEDA]

Awesome trailer...I ll hope they will still won't reveal that much of the movie.
If I remember it will be at least 2 hours long.
Sam worington looks to do a great job in there, Bale as well.
Just hope it won't turn on something wierd at the end, conflicting with the Series.

BTW , anyone as news concerning a 3rd season of The Sarah Connor chronicle ? the two last episode were awesome.

I hope it will still go on.

[Gummy]

Is he the guy who directed the Terminator series?

Hmm, maybe I'll check it out then.

[TEEDA]

Nope actually, he's the one playing the " amnesic terminator " , Marcus Wright. I wonder if it's a direct sequel of T3 or if a sequel to T1 and T2.

[Gummy]

I meant that if the directed of this movie(salvation) directed the series as well.

Edit: Nope, nevermind.
I googled it. :)

[Hisham]

Uhh... So I saw this opening night and it was very disappointing.

It pretty much sucked imo.

[curryking1]

I figured as much. The ads just make it looks like a generic action movie.

I just watched Terminator 1 and 2 right after the other, like a few days ago. I really don't feel like ruining it.

I hear this new one has a PG-13 rating too, and if so, lulz.

[Black Dragon37]

A $200m budget.

I don't think it's gonna profit.

[Segitz]

All I say is PG13...

Same problem as Die Hard 4, Blade 3 and many others... they get castrated for short term profit and that's it...

Imagine if T2 had been PG13... it might've done better at the box office, but the later following and whatnot would NOT have had such a big success!

[masteratt]

The thirst for money in the upper seats are just getting worse and worse.

At least in the 90s we had some good bloody fun in the movies, now they can't even do that so they can squeeze more money out of kids.
This is exactly why I despise the entertainment business.

And the funny part is they want us to stop pirating this shit.

[HPK]

SPOILERS AHEAD!

You know...I really want to like this movie. I really do, but there are just too many things that bug me about it. I will like it because I love the Terminator franchise, but I feel this movie wasn't necessary in the slightest. I didn't even notice the PG-13 rating until after the credit roll. I actually stuck around until after the credits to make sure there wasn't any hidden scenes. I was a pretty disappointed that there weren't any.

I guess what bugs me the most about this movie is it's story. The whole premise of the movie doesn't make any sense. Pretty much, Kyle Reese gets kidnapped by Skynet and he's there primary target for elimantion (John Connor being second on this list). So....one would think that if Kyle Reese was numbero uno for killing, he would've been killed on sight...right? Nope. They just toss his ass in a holding cell. For some reason, the machines are taking living prisoners.
But, this would mean that the machines in 2018 know of Reese's future importance, which is fucking impossible. How could the machines in 2018 know that this teenager would be sent back in time at some point and become John Connor's father? It's impossible! That would mean another robot from the future would've had to have given the information to Skynet at some point, but since this was never shown in any of the movies, I will assume nothing like this ever happened.
Now, Marcus was an interesting character (probably my favorite from the movie, as well as Reese), but his purpose was retarded. He was to infiltrate the Resistance and lure Connor to Skynet. Oh, and Marcus was the only model of his kind to be created. If Skynet is a super-A.I. machine thing, why the hell didn't it just create a bunch of Marcus-like terminators? Cyborgs with brains that have memories and believe they are human? This would make the whole assassination thing a fuck-ton easier. Instead, they just stick with a bunch of robots that all look like Arnold.
But, Marcus had no idea he was a machine and, apparently, wasn't programmed to kill anything. He just had to lure Connor to Skynet where he would, hopefully, die. After Marcus learns of this, he's actually given the choice of whether or not he wants to be a machine or a human. WHAT THE FUCK!? His mission was accomplished. Why would he be given the chance to act on the emotions he was given? I would've just shut him down or some shit, but he was allowed to rip out his computer chip and help out Connor.
Also, why the hell did Marcus have a human heart? He had a brain, a human heart, and the rest was robotics. He didn't need the heart...well...actually he did, or the ending would've consisted of Connor dying. I also like how the ending worked out. Connor gets shanked by a big ass, metal pipe and just needs a new heart from it. The dude was living for half-of-a-day with a broken heart without being hooked up to medical equipment. That's fucking tough.
Outside of needing the new heart, the movie concludes with Skynet exploding...well, the San Fransisco branch of Skynet. The movie never goes into detail over how far Skynet has spread until the very end, where Connor mentions how they still have the rest of the world to save. The entire movie just takes place in the remains of Southern California. All of the characters are from that area. Destroying one factory/base seems pretty ineffective considering they still have the entire fucking planet to save. Then again, the machines seem pretty stupid anyway considering how they plan shit out, so saving the world from Skynet will be very possible in the next two movies.

The movie didn't have too much going for it and felt too generic to really be a Terminator flick. Besides, there wasn't any time travel what-so-ever, so I think that really hurt the film. The film mostly consisted of random war scenes against robots and various forms of fan service along the way. I also didn't care for Bale as Connor. He felt too stale; too much like Batman...his character smolded with generic rage, and that was about it. Marcus and Kyle actually had some personality, which I liked.

I'm going to end up buying the special edition of this movie. I know it.

[Hisham]

Yeah I agree... Time travel ususally make things messy, but even still some of the things didn't make sense... Like the fact that Skynet knew things that would have been impossible to know at that point in time.

Pretty much it was plotholes galore.

[Chris]

Seconded HPK, I was really looking forward to this movie, turned out to be a pretty big letdown, just felt like such a generic action movie.

Bale definitely made me question many times during the movie, "Is he supposed to be John Connor or Batman?", just sounded exactly the same, he's become too one-dimensional at this time it seems. However, I did feel that the scenes with Marcus and Connor face to face were the best in the movie, but Worthington and Yelchin were the best parts of the movie.

I did like how there threw little things in there that you'd only notice if you had watched T2, I especially liked how they threw "You Could Be Mine" in there, as obviously it is a song Connor likes.

[HPK]

^Yeah, that GnR song kind of caught me off guard. I wasn't expecting it, but it made sense. I'm surprised he still kept that tape.

However, Connor didn't need to say, "I'll be back." That line didn't need to be in the movie.

[curryking1]

Lol, I read all that. Just wow.

***k all that stuff. I'm just gonna watch T1 and T2 while I work tomorrow. Those are truly epic.

As a rule of thumb the 90s are so much better than the 2000s, for music and movies, 'nuff said.

[masteratt]

As a rule of thumb the 90s are so much better than the 2000s
Amen!

[Hisham]

As a rule of thumb the 90s are so much better than the 2000s, for music and movies, 'nuff said.

One could argue video games as well.

*runs away*

[Xer0]

This movie was balls terrible I thought. The only character with any emotional wieght, Markus, was killed by trailers. Connor sounded like Batman the whole fucking movie which was incredibly annoying. The action was handled well but it was completely uninspired. The sets also felt very small and confined. And the final battle with Skynet, wtf?! There was like one Terminator in the whole damn place. I realize Markus shut everything down but there has to be at least one little robot roaming around somewhere.

Then there is the actual story and dialogue. What. The. Fuck? It made no sense what so ever and every single time anyone would speak, it was like this huge epic "we are all going to die" speech. The movie had one joke in as far as I can tell and it took itself way to seriously.

All in all, it was worse then Wolverine, which I thought was going to be the bottom of the suck ladder for me this year.

[Paz]

I recently divorced a friend for saying Wolverine was "awesome".

This movie was pretty terrible, but that is what happens when you give it to a white guy who decides he should be called "McG".

[curryking1]

One could argue video games as well.

*runs away*

Too bad half the people on this site try to deny it like it hurts them.

^My brother went to see it with work friends, so for fun he gave me a verbal version of the movie.

While he was telling it to me he was also explaining all the differences and the few similarities to the comics.

Basically I'm sure his narration was more fun to listen to than watching the movie lol.

Christian Bale is a ***king loser by the way. Dark Knight can go suck it, after a while you realize how lame of a movie it is and then you realize what a dickface Christian Bale is enough that every time you think of Dark Knight you just want to vomit.

We have to send Bale-dickface to Hell and trade him for Ledger to bring him back. Although the devil would never agree to it.

[Paz]

Christian Bale is a ***king loser by the way. Dark Knight can go suck it, after a while you realize how lame of a movie it is and then you realize what a dickface Christian Bale is enough that every time you think of Dark Knight you just want to vomit.

I think this applies to 99% of existing movies... watch them enough, or hear them talked about by morons enough, and you will start to despise them.

The Dark Knight is a good movie, but is no the second coming of Christ as some seem to think.

As for this movie and Wolverine... someone needs to set swine flu loose in Hollywood.

[Chris]

I think this applies to 99% of existing movies... watch them enough, or hear them talked about by morons enough, and you will start to despise them.

The Dark Knight is a good movie, but is no the second coming of Christ as some seem to think.

As for this movie and Wolverine... someone needs to set swine flu loose in Hollywood.

I agree, I thought The Dark Knight was very good, but I seem to be in the minority of thinking that Batman Begins was actually better. I actually feel that the hype and how well the movie was received actually had more to do with Ledger's performance than anything else, he was absolutely incredible, as everyone full well knows.

[TEEDA]

Failing to live up to the hype, Terminator Salvation opened in 2nd place with a disappointing $43 million. The movie, starring Christian Bale and Sam Worthington, has earned $56.3 million since opening Thursday



Terminator Salvation takes us to the year 2018, in the years after Judgement Day, when the robots have taken over the world. An army of Terminators, controlled by the artificial network Skynet, roam the earth, kidnapping and/or killing all humans in sight. Many of the remaining human survivors have banded together to form the Resistance, a desperate group who relentlessly fight the seemingly indestructable machines. Among the survivors is John Connor (Christian Bale), a man whose life goal has always been to save humanity and stop the machines. Unfortunately for Connor, the human casualties just seem to be multiplying and he must find a way to stop Skynet as it continues to evolve and develop new tactics to destroy mankind once and for all. Terminator Salvation also stars Sam Worthington as an ex-con named Marcus Wright, as well as Anton Yelchin, Bryce Dallas Howard, Helena Bonham Carter and many more.
Little info spoiler *

(As a sidenote, the T-800 that appears in the movie is actually played by a fellow named Roland Kickinger, using Arnold Schwarzenegger’s CG face. Howard Stern fans may remember Kickinger from the short-lived TV series “Son of the Beach”.)

I’m sure most movie fans are expecting the world of Terminator Salvation.

How could you not?

The first three movies were all simply oustanding and are movies many of us grew up knowing and loving. Well, I’m here to report that Salvation is a pretty damn good movie. In terms of action and special effects, it may rank up there as one of the best ever. Sam Worthington’s portrayal of Marcus Wright was the performance that was head and shoulders above the other cast members. For all you hockey fans out there, I found the guy looks eerily like Sean Avery (and that’s not a good thing - for Worthington). The movie moves at a good pace - it’s actually surprisingly short, clocking in at slightly less than 2 hours but with all the fighting and explosions going on, there isn’t too much time to sit back and relax. Some of the action scenes and battles between the Terminators and the humans are simply outstanding. For that, I commend the movie-makers.

Unfortunately, what this movie lacks is the story and easy feeling of at least two of the three Terminator movies. Sure the first Terminator movie was very serious, violent and definitely not chock full of laughs - Salvation really has the same somber type of feeling of the first movie. But those second two movies made Arnie’s Terminator such a likeable and pretty damn funny cyborg and this has a lot to do with what made both of those movies a hit.

Salvation, on the other hand,is dark, violent and I’m pretty sure not one person in the entire movie cracks a smile, not even once. Is that a bad thing? I’m not sure if it should be or not but it would have been nice to have one wise-cracking asshole at least once or twice in the whole movie. Instead, you have a bunch of angry characters (and I suppose rightly so) that you have a really hard time connecting with and having any sort of feeling for any of them. And you also have Christian Bale, one of the greatest actors in the world today, and as good as he was, his talent just seemed kind of wasted in this movie. Don’t get me wrong, the guy was good. But he could have had a moment or two in the movie to be “Christian Bale”, if you know what I mean. He really didn’t get that opportunity, at least not what I saw. In fact, I found the Sam Worthington character to be a lot more endearing and likeable and the guy was a convicted serial killer. Something just seemed to be missing with Bale’s John Connor. As a side note, I really wonder what scene it was where Bale had his now infamous outburst…

Overall, I will say that I liked Terminator Salvation a lot, despite all the energy I used typing my complaints about the movie. I didn’t love it like I wanted but I can’t deny that it’s a damn entertaining movie. I guess I was hoping that perhaps an army of human-looking T-800’s would infiltrate the resistance or John Connor would have a big moment or I maybe would have cracked a smile or shed a tear but none of that happened. It just turned out to be a very loud but very action-packed movie and I guess that’s good enough. Too bad it wasn’t great enough.

8/10
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[GTShotoKen]

I have to agree with that review. Terminator Salvation was good, but definitely didn't live up to my expectations.

I honestly thought the movie could have been shorter just for the fact that the story was so simple and didn't flesh out the characters or the universe what so ever.

The special effects and action scenes were absolutely amazing and a definite benchmark for movies right now though.

[Hisham]

8/10 is too much for the movie imo.

6/10 would be my out of 10 score.

[goku2057]

I had no expectations for Wolverine or Terminator: Salvation. I thought they were both above par movies.