Murphy to play the Riddler? Oh no..... [Archive]

SnakeEyez

12-19-2008, 03:32 AM

Comic book fanboys across the globe are all atwitter after fresh reports that Eddie Murphy will play the Riddler in the next "Batman" movie.

The Sun reported today that Christopher Nolan has tapped Murphy for the role in the follow-up film to "The Dark Knight," which is rumored to be titled "Gotham."

The unconfirmed rumor contradicts earlier whispers that Johnny Depp would reinvent the role in the new film, which is slated to hit theaters in 2010.

Jim Carrey played the part in 1995's "Batman Forever." The Sun also says that "Transformers" star Shia LeBeouf has been tapped to play Robin, and Rachel Weisz will portray Catwoman.

Rumors had circulated that that role would go to Cher, 62. Sources say the film will have a cliff-hanger ending, leaving audiences to wonder if Batman survives an explosion at Wayne Towers.

"Chris wasn't sure if he wanted to do another movie, but as soon as he decided to, he got the wheels in motion," an insider told the British tabloid. "Eddie's a fantastic addition. Everyone's excited to see what he does as the Riddler."
http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/movies/2008/12/18/2008-12-18_eddie_murphy_tapped_to_play_riddler_in_n.html

Shotgun Plasma

12-19-2008, 03:58 AM

oh god......a black riddler?

something going off...

SnakeEyez

12-19-2008, 04:40 AM

oh god......a black riddler?

something going off...

I blame this on BO and his policy of change.:closed:

Xer0

12-19-2008, 04:42 AM

Hell, who would have thought Ledger could pull of Joker before we saw it?

err_ok

12-19-2008, 04:42 AM

Jim Carrey was the previous one.. How can it get worse.

TBH I liked the idea of Johnny Depp doing it, he has more chance of reinventing the character.

Pro A.

12-19-2008, 06:28 AM

This is a tab report, so I'll hold my breath and wait. Besides, Nolan hasn't even said anything about doing a third Batman officially. The only role that has any realm of credibility is Weisz. She has a strange energy about her and would be credible as Catwoman, but again, this comes from the British tabs so let's not get too wound up just yet.

nemesis121

12-19-2008, 06:37 AM

No official announcement of Part 3, no word on Nolan returning, no word on returning cast members, and the most important part a script, even Spiderman 4 which is 3-4 years away announced a script writer, I smell BS.

LiquidEagle

12-19-2008, 08:56 AM

Yeah, this is pure BS to me... I think Nolan's going to do at least 1 Memento/Prestige-like film before he goes back to Batman, and given his focus I don't think he'll start planning for the next Batman (if he even does it) until it's his next movie out.

Gummy

12-19-2008, 01:23 PM

it's too early for batman!
need more time!
I say 2011 or 2012!
The joker is still the top villain.

Shia as robin? lol could work. he's a good actor.
Eddie murphy though? I mean I love the guy(not his movies after bowfinger) Depp could definitely fit perfectly as the riddler.

Weis :wank:

HPK

12-19-2008, 05:38 PM

Viper

12-19-2008, 06:47 PM

The riddler needs to be more like the original. He's more civil, well mannered and not so over the top.

<3frosty

12-19-2008, 07:34 PM

I am soooooo tired of casting rumors when the director that makes this all go (he was co-writer, co-screenplay, executive producer, and obviously director for TDK) hasn't even publicly signed on yet. Give it a rest. I will just close my eyes and pretend none of this gibberish is actually being talked about in any serious way until AFTER Chris Nolan signs on officially.

nemesis121

12-19-2008, 10:40 PM

I thought Nolan had been quoted saying that we wouldn't be seeing Robin in his films since they focus on a younger Batman.
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Even Bale said if they introduce Robin he wouldn't sign on for Batman, he doesn't mind doing sequels, but he said Robin was a sidekick, and this Batman is about the young Batman.

Gummy

12-19-2008, 11:30 PM

I thought Nolan had been quoted saying that we wouldn't be seeing Robin in his films since they focus on a younger Batman.

I don't like any of the people rumored to play The Riddler. Jim Carrey is the only person who can play him. Ever. I'm sure he would fit just fine, given how he was in The Number 23.

http://www.famousplagiarists.com/images/leskomatthew.jpg

haha.
all in seriousness.
Jim Carrey did an amazing job as the riddler.

Kiwi

12-19-2008, 11:32 PM

If these newer films are set when Batman was younger, then isn't putting in the Riddler going to break the continuity? Because the Riddler character wasn't created until part of the way through the Val Kilmer Batman film. Or are these films a completely separate story?

Just a thought :shrug:

err_ok

12-19-2008, 11:38 PM

If you recall two face was in the same film as the riddler originally... And we saw him in the last one.

Gummy

12-19-2008, 11:40 PM

edit: oh wait nvm

nemesis121

12-19-2008, 11:58 PM

If you look at ending of Dark Knight, the Villain in Part 3 is Batman.

Pro A.

12-20-2008, 12:04 AM

The riddler needs to be more like the original. He's more civil, well mannered and not so over the top.

Given Nolan's propensity for off-beat choices and picking people who aren't American as villains, I wouldn't be surprised if he reaches into the vault and picks someone like Guy Pearce (Memento) as the Riddler, were he to make that choice as his villain.

Kiwi

12-20-2008, 12:06 AM

If you recall two face was in the same film as the riddler originally... And we saw him in the last one.

Yea, but the character had already been created before the start of the film, if you get what I mean.

<3frosty

12-20-2008, 12:53 AM

Yea, but the character had already been created before the start of the film, if you get what I mean.

Are you suggesting that The Riddler was made for Batman Forever? As in, he wasnt in any comics before that movie?

Gummy

12-20-2008, 01:09 AM

I never really followed batman in comics.
I don't know which villains to expect, but I do know the Joker would be popping out here and there.

Aaron played a damn good Two-face.

I think catwoman would be good to come out on the next one... hopefully.

ahhh look at her, she's pretty!
Rachel Weisz! (http://www.wallpaperez.info/wallpaper/celebrities/Rachel-Weisz-Snow-White-1338.jpg)

Viper

12-20-2008, 01:48 AM

Given Nolan's propensity for off-beat choices and picking people who aren't American as villains, I wouldn't be surprised if he reaches into the vault and picks someone like Guy Pearce (Memento) as the Riddler, were he to make that choice as his villain.

Decent choice.

The actor needs to portray a sense of nobility, a touch of arrogance mixed with an obsessive-compulsive behavior.

Brad Dourif is my choice.

http://www.filmdope.com/Gallery/ActorsD/4838-23127.gif

Kiwi

12-20-2008, 02:27 AM

Are you suggesting that The Riddler was made for Batman Forever? As in, he wasnt in any comics before that movie?

No, that's not what I meant. I'm just trying to form some kind of timeline between all of the films. At the start of that movie, the Riddler character didn't exist, because Jim Carrey was still Dr. Nigma. He didn't become the Riddler until part of the way through the film. But Two-Face already existed at the beginning of the film, because you see the thing in court where he gets that shit thrown at him.

So, what I was trying to get at, is that if the Riddler is going to be in this movie, which technically happened before Batman Forever, then it causes an error in the continuity. But I don't know if the idea of the new movies is supposed to merge in with the same story as what happens in the previous movies. Get what I mean?

Ihsiin

12-20-2008, 02:39 AM

I thought this thread was about snooker...

*leaves*

Viper

12-20-2008, 02:39 AM

There is obviously no correlation between the Tim Burton/Joel Schumacher films and the Christopher Nolan films.

It's a completely new take on the franchise.

Pro A.

12-20-2008, 02:44 AM

Dourif seems too manic to be the Riddler. He'd have been a good Joker because he has that psychotic quality. Not a bad actor, certainly, but he seems a little off-key to me.

Kiwi

12-20-2008, 02:46 AM

There is obviously no correlation between the Tim Burton/Joel Schumacher films and the Christopher Nolan films.

It's a completely new take on the franchise.

That's what I wanted to sort out. I don't really follow the films a huge deal, so I didn't know that.

Viper

12-20-2008, 02:54 AM

The first two films from the 1990's (1989 technically) were directed by Tim Burton and showed the establishment of Batman from Bruce Wayne. Joel Schumacher came in and added Robin and made Gotham look like Las Vegas on steroids and basically killed the franchise.

Christopher Nolan rebooted the franchise with Batman Begins starting back with the establishment of Batman from Bruce Wayne and moving on from there. This is why we have had The Joker and Two Face twice now.

Fillibuster

12-20-2008, 03:04 AM

^Don't forget...he also added nipples!

God what horrible fucking movies...

err_ok

12-20-2008, 03:53 AM

^Don't forget...he also added nipples!

I'm sorry what..?

I am expecting photos... :whip:

<3frosty

12-20-2008, 07:10 AM

I'm sorry what..?

I am expecting photos... :whip:

Schumacher made a mockery of the batsuit and added nipples to it in Batman Forever and Batman & Robin, while Robin had them in both Forever and B&R. However, sexism still exists as they didnt add it to Alicia Silverstone's Batgirl outfit. What a load of crap... (it appears that the Batgirl suit DID(?) have nipples, but they were subtle i just read. Pics soon when i find evidence).

Additionally, Matt, Batman Begins should have been a tip-off to you as it contained Ra's al Ghul and Scarecrow, which havent been in ANY of the previous films. Unless you are mistaken into thinking The Dark Knight was a standalone film or wasnt related directly (as in, sequel) to Batman Begins...

http://www.filmweb.no/bilder/multimedia/archive/00097/Alicia_Silverstone___97355o.jpg

http://modernexploits.files.wordpress.com/2008/04/batman-forever4.jpg

http://picturepoetry.files.wordpress.com/2008/03/batman-nipples.jpg

http://img2.timeinc.net/ew/dynamic/imgs/050609/173541__batrobin_l.jpg

http://blogs.nypost.com/popwrap/photos/batman-sequel.jpg

http://bruehoyt.com/superheroes/DC/batman/bruce/batmanforever1.jpg

<3frosty

12-20-2008, 07:14 AM

Evidence of nipples? http://geekindenial.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/batmanrobin.jpg

Shotgun Plasma

12-20-2008, 07:38 AM

Gummy

12-20-2008, 07:53 AM

It must be a cold suit.

LiquidEagle

12-20-2008, 08:09 AM

omg, Guy Pearce would make a badass Riddler IMO, but I'm also a total Guy Pearce fanboy from Memento and LA Confidential...

Every single Christopher Nolan movie has had the absolute best casting imaginable, so if he does another Batman movie I'm sure it will be cast to suit. I think Jude Law would make a pretty good Riddler based on his performance in Road to Perdition, personally. Before Heath Ledger signed on to be Joker, I wanted Jude Law to be him...

nemesis121

12-20-2008, 08:29 AM

Just to go back to the Robin talk, if the Previous movies were done right they could have been exploring A death in the family or the Killing joke, which IMO would make great movies.

LiquidEagle

12-20-2008, 08:31 AM

I know the Killing Joke was a pretty big influence for the Dark Knight, especially all the "you & I seem like we're destined to do this forever" stuff.

<3frosty

12-20-2008, 08:34 AM

I wonder why they put nipple on batman's suit.

Burton: "I want you guys make me some Batman's suit and draw some sketch, just some rough sketch and show me, oh don't forget, add nipples too."

They did anyway, because in hollywood, No one dare to question the director because of fear of being fired.

I dont know how you came to the conclusion Tim Burton was the one who added nipples to the batsuit. I SPECIFICALLY mentioned that Schumacher was the one who made a mockery of the costumes.... as in Joel Schumacher, the director of Batman Forever and Batmand & RObin...

Shotgun Plasma

12-20-2008, 08:37 AM

I dont know how you came to the conclusion Tim Burton was the one who added nipples to the batsuit. I SPECIFICALLY mentioned that Schumacher was the one who made a mockery of the costumes.... as in Joel Schumacher, the director of Batman Forever and Batmand & RObin...

How come Batgirl doesn't have one?

LiquidEagle

12-20-2008, 08:41 AM

How come Batgirl doesn't have one?

lol, they already discussed that and pictures were posted, the jury's still out on that and so far nobody's brave enough to watch the movie to see for themselves :-p

<3frosty

12-20-2008, 08:45 AM

I know the Killing Joke was a pretty big influence for the Dark Knight, especially all the "you & I seem like we're destined to do this forever" stuff.

Additionally, the idea that one bad day can ruin a person plays into the transformation of Harvey Dent

Shotgun Plasma

12-20-2008, 08:49 AM

lol, they already discussed that and pictures were posted, the jury's still out on that and so far nobody's brave enough to watch the movie to see for themselves :-p

Oh yeah, sorry my mind is on something else. By the way, I think it had something to do with Pg-13 rated, adding Batgirl's nipple will only further the rated system?

LiquidEagle

12-20-2008, 09:00 AM

Additionally, the idea that one bad day can ruin a person plays into the transformation of Harvey Dent

Absolutely. I've never read the Long Halloween, but I heard it was also a big influence on The Dark Knight. I really liked how the Dark Knight was about Batman & Joker being introduced to each other though, it wasn't just about one guy being the good guy and the other guy being the bad guy and they do their thing. The psychology behind all of it is just too cool, and I don't think anybody could've done it better than Christopher Nolan.

<3frosty

12-20-2008, 09:15 AM

lol, they already discussed that and pictures were posted, the jury's still out on that and so far nobody's brave enough to watch the movie to see for themselves :-p

http://geekindenial.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/batmanrobin.jpg

It appears she does, but its so subtle you have to LOOK, HARD, for them.

Shotgun Plasma

12-20-2008, 09:50 AM

nice puffy nipple lol

SuperLuigiBros

12-20-2008, 10:19 AM

What about Murphy retiring from film?

Gummy

12-20-2008, 02:45 PM

I'm watching the first Beverly Hills, holy shit it's an awesome movie.
Same with his other 80's movie.

Anyways, I want more Two-Face =[

Viper

12-21-2008, 02:28 AM

Gummy, his movies from the 80's were great stuff. The Golden Child, Beverly Hills Cop series, 48 hours, Trading Places, Harlem Nights and Coming to America.

His stand up comedy routines were absolute gold; Delirious stills makes me laugh years later with ease.

When it hit 1995, everything just went to shit.

blurton

12-21-2008, 04:24 AM

guy pearce is who i was thinking of

Gummy

12-21-2008, 08:52 AM

Dakota Grabowski

12-22-2008, 04:42 AM

just watched Eddie Murphy's Raw ... it was all right. It started out a little rough but by the end of his sketch, he was on a roll -- too bad the first quarter was so lame.

As for Murphy's fame, I think he's on the downside of his career right now outside of children's films. He should probably stick to demanding big $$$ for children's films and then try to reinvigorate his acting career with ensemble cast films and indie films.

Viper

12-22-2008, 04:57 AM

Dakota, check out Delirious....much better.

LaLiLuLeLo

12-22-2008, 08:10 AM

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Generosity of God

12-22-2008, 12:42 PM

http://geekindenial.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/batmanrobin.jpg

It appears she does, but its so subtle you have to LOOK, HARD, for them.

she doesn't have nipples on her suit. it's more like pointy boobs as there are no areolae outlines to suggest actual nipples.

as far as eddie as the Riddler? i'm not really liking the idea.

my first choice would be willem dafoe. sure he's already played green goblin but he'd play the riddler pretty well. as long as it's the sophisticated/obsessive compulsive style riddler and not over the top quirky riddler. although he would be another green colored villain.

<3frosty

12-22-2008, 06:02 PM

Absolutely. I've never read the Long Halloween, but I heard it was also a big influence on The Dark Knight. I really liked how the Dark Knight was about Batman & Joker being introduced to each other though, it wasn't just about one guy being the good guy and the other guy being the bad guy and they do their thing. The psychology behind all of it is just too cool, and I don't think anybody could've done it better than Christopher Nolan.

I agree. I loved the interaction between Batman and Joker. Especially with Joker pushing Batman to his limit by playing mind games. I love that Batman DIDNT run him over with the Batpod. It shows everything that Batman stands for but also shows how hard it is to resist as he got as close as he possibly could WITHOUT running over the Joker.