Nintendo 64, Proof that It was THE BEST System

[Tony2Kool]

There's plenty of things that made N64 the best system ever.

1. There was soooooooooo many games for it that Nintendo made better sales of the games more so then the system itself.

2. It was the 3D revoulotion. The world of video gaming went from 2D to 3D for the first successful time. Nothing will ever beat that experience (except 4D if that is ever discovered).

3. The Quality gameplay was excellent. It had games like Super Mario 64, Mario Kart 64, Jet Force Gemini, and of course the best game of all time, The Legend of Zelda-Ocarina of Time.

There's plenty of more reasons that N64 is the best. Oh yeah and why I'm at it, I just noticed, Gamecube wasn't the first system to have Gameboy hookup, N64 was!!!!

[Blaksmoke]

That's some great proof there.

But you couldn't really "hook up" the GameBoy, you could only put a cartridge in the Transfer Pak.

[Pro A.]

325 games is not a lot over a five-year span.

[Cofey]

Actually, SNES had a device called Super Gameboy that let you play all Gameboy games before GB Color, kind of like a primitive GB Player.
I agree though, N64 was an awesome system.

[Pro A.]

It was good, but the number of really good games is so far and few. Here's my list:

1996: Super Mario 64
Star Wars: SOTE

1997: Turok: Dinosaur Hunter
Star Fox 64
Goldeneye

1998: 1080 Snowboarding
Banjo-Kazooie
Star Wars: Rogue Squadron
The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time
Turok 2: Seeds of Evil

1999: Beetle Adventure Racing
Donkey Kong 64
Super Smash Bros.
Jet Force Gemini

2000: Perfect Dark
The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask
The World is not Enough

2001: Conker's Bad Fur Day
Paper Mario

Most years, we get four to five times that amount. Some of those games, like Beetle, are a stretch.

[speed stick]

N64 was the best, stepping into the nicest 3-D graphics. Totally amazing. Never had that same feeling since.

[Tony2Kool]

It had way more than 325 games didn't it?

[neo999955]

All systems make better sales of the games than the system. N64 was one of the best systems. And I have to add Silicon Valley Space Station to your list there Pro. A, still one of my favorite games, I think it came out in 96, not sure. There are some more too, but I don't have time, umm, Mario kart 64? Mario Party was brand new. Mario Tennis was fun till the end. Pokemon Stadium was huge. etc.

[Tony2Kool]

Yeah that right Mario Party! How could I forget. I have all of them including the E-card game. Mario Party's awsome. You might have heard about them coming out with Mario Party Advance but they are coming out with Number 6 to. Im hoping for Gameboy to Gamecube connectivity.

[Viper]

N64 was damn good but SNES was even better, much better.

[The Dude]

N64 was a revolutionary system. No doubt about that. N64 started out huge until about 1999, after that things went down hill and Playstation really started dominating after that point.

[Rabunis]

Looking back, I think I had the most fun with my N64 than any other system I've owned. Me and my buddies would play smash bros 4 player 99 stock over and over again. Unfortunatly all my nerd freinds that used to be down for video games stopped playing by the time gamecube was released. Now I'm the only one left. :cry2:

[Pro A.]

The NES and SNES run circles around the N64. At most, it had 375 games. The PS-X had 1200 and the DC had 450, so there you go.

[Blaksmoke]

Ocarina Of Time, enough said. That alone made Nintendo 64 the best console of all times.

And you didn't have to buy memory cards !!!!!!

And BlackSmoke, let me ask you one question: Would you give up OOT for some "hook up" with a GBA ??? Hooking up with the GBA isn't all that huge.

What the hell are you talking about? How is that relevant to anything I said?

[Cobra Commander]

And you didn't have to buy memory cards !!!!!!

I seem to remember having to use the controller pak to save some games.

[bobo_ess]

N 64 has my favorite game of all time. Jet Force Gemini. They had the best slogan too "get N or get out"

[Rabunis]

But it was the first console that set the 4 player standard. And for that reason alone I think it was more fun than the rest.

[KamiKaZe]

And you didn't have to buy memory cards !!!!!!
And I suppose they just popped out of your ass? In case you don't remember, for a lot of games you needed a memory card to save.

[Pro A.]

Yeah. While the Nintendo 64 did have some of the best games ever, it didn't have enough. The PS-X was producing more quality titles on a more consistent basis.

My top 5 N64 games:

1. Ocarina of Time
2. Turok: Dinosaur Hunter
3. Perfect Dark
4. Goldeneye
5. Super Mario 64

[=NukeBlaze=]

The forth dimention is time. You have your X, Y, Z, and T axis. If you are to be at a meeting, a person gives your the location( x,y,z), and the time to be there(t). There are your four dimentions.

Again I say, playstation would have never existed if the N64 used a larger storeage solution for the N64. Many companies jumped to Sony when they found out they wer going to be limited to 8 MB - 64 MB for a 3D game. Scary that the 64 megabit mario 64 cartridge is only 8 MB large. Without the support that went to sony(See sqauresoft who influneced others to jump ship) sony would never have made a splash, and we would still have sega around in hardware.

[Skull Kid]

Gamecube wasn't the first system to have Gameboy hookup, N64 was!!!!

Super Nintendo was.

[Pro A.]

They jumped to Sony because Sony didn't act like a bunch of bastards. Nintendo's arrogance drove away Square in 1996 and that was the beginning of the end for their dominance. The most powerful third-party company was out of their hands.

[StrobeDiablos]

Don't forget about all of the wrestling games Pro. Although you yourself are not a fan, they still generated quite a huge following, and due to the success and continuing to make games, based off of the very same engine it started from.

(WCW/NWO World Tour(N64) and Wrestlemania XIX(GC) have almost identical controls.)

[Pro A.]

I like Revenge and No Mercy out of the wrestling games the best. They were fun.

[=NukeBlaze=]

^ Yes, arrogent that they still used cartirdges when many compaines requested diffrent, and henced ignored them.

[Pro A.]

And started acting like they were going to rout Sony right around Goldeneye.

[David]

Oh, and the first system to use 3-D that I know of was the NES...But the N64 was still my favourite with SNES right behind it.

[Blaksmoke]

(WCW/NWO World Tour(N64) and Wrestlemania XIX(GC) have almost identical controls.)

You're right, but for some reason WrestleMania XIX is just...a lot worse.

But don't forget about Virtual Pro Wrestling 2!

But David, what the hell are you talking about? The NES didn't have any 3-D games.

[Hisham]

N64 had a few games worth the time.

The PSOne was much better. It had more games and it had alot of good games too. Resident Evil first came out for the PSOne and you can say that it jump started a lagging genre(survival horror). Also, Metal Gear Solid was a breakthrough in the steath-action genre. And don't get me started on the cart racing titles.

Mario Kart 64 was good but Crash Team Racing was better. It had better tracks, a better single player and the multiplayer was just too good. I remember battle mode with my friend and it lasting up to an hour per match because we'd keep countering each others missiles and other weapons. I just couldn't do that with the battle mode in Mario Kart 64. The matches would be over in about 5-10 minutes.

I also loved the fighting games on the PSOne. SSB was fun for a while but then it got boring, even with friends. And if i can remember correctly, the N64 didn't have any other fighting games. The PSOne was loaded with fighters, from KOF, Street Fighter and Guilty Gear for the 2D and Soul Blade(1st game to soul calibur), Bushido Blade, and Battle Arena Toshinden for the 3D fighters. All these games just owned any fighters on the N64. I remember spending days to perfect Akuma's Raging Demon and then having the satisfaction of beating my friends that were supposedly "Street Fighter Gods."

The adventure games were also good, Crash Bandicoot was really good when it was made by Naughty Dog (now it's destroyed because universal is making it). They were so fun and it was pretty challenging to beat it 100%. You'd have to get all the gems and get every secret in every level. I have yet to be Crash Bandicoot 2 100%(would have probabally have beaten it by now but my PSOne broke. I bought it in 1997 used and it broke in 2002, I'd say it lived long enough)

Now I know many people will come back and say "ohh what about OOT". I'll say it was a great game that deserves to be in the top 5 of all gamers list, but would you buy a system just for ONE GAME. It's one freggin game.

And a response to Tony2Kool. WTF are you smoking, if anything, the PSOne had so many games it was uncountable. I remember it having atleast 1400 games at the end of it's life span. The most the N64 could hope for was 400 games, and thats at the most.

Now to end, I don't think the PSOne is the greatest system (Genisis is) but it was definatly better than the N64. That's why nintendo lost so much of the market space to Sony.

[Pro A.]

Mario Kart beat CTR. The game you should be comapring to Mario Kart is Gran Turismo. GT1 and GT2 ran circles around Mario Kart 64. Syphon Filter, Tomb Raider, Metal Gear, Medal of Honor all held their weight on the shooter front. Resident Evil made up the survival horror genre with Silent Hill. The RPG genre was something that the N64 ignored and so FFVII dominated the industry for years. Sony had their juggernauts in every genre.

[Hisham]

^You can't really compare a cart racer to a sim racing. And truthfully I liked CTR better. I don't care what anyone really says, I had more fun with CTR then Mario Kart 64.

[David]

Blak, there were a few 3-D portions(terrible mind you) in Contra. I'll see if I can find some screenshots of it.

[Viper]

Shin, N64 had Killer Instinct, MACE and Mortal Kombat 4. Don't forget all the Rare games too. plus all the other NCL first party games.

The N64 owned the fps scene with Goldeneye, PD and the Turoks.


Mario64 owned Crash. Puzzle games....N64 was better.

However, PS1 did have planty of good games so I'm not saying one was beter than the other.

[Pro A.]

PS-X won in the end. It had more solid games.

[Glenn2K4]

^ by solid you mean = choppy framerate, popup backgrounds, shaky polygon count??

PS just had more games
N64 had more solid games

I have played both PS and N64 and I honestly say that N64 is the best system because i have more FUN memories playing my N64:

Conker's Bad Fur Day, Mario 64, Perfect Dark, Jet Force Gemini, Goldeneye 007, Banjo-Kazooie, Mario Kart 64, DonkeyKong 64, Killer Instinct 2 Gold, etc....

+ N64 was the home of 4 player games....easily the 'party system' at the dorms.

[Hisham]

Shin, N64 had Killer Instinct, MACE and Mortal Kombat 4. Don't forget all the Rare games too. plus all the other NCL first party games.

The N64 owned the fps scene with Goldeneye, PD and the Turoks.


Mario64 owned Crash. Puzzle games....N64 was better.

However, PS1 did have planty of good games so I'm not saying one was beter than the other.

Okay, i'm not denying FPS, Puzzle, and Wrestling genre's were owned by the N64, but the fighting game genre was no where near the PSOne's. MK4 sucked hard. Every fighter I played on the PSOne was better than it. Also, Killer Instinct was a good game but still it couldn't hold a candle to Street Fighter Alpha 3, Guilty Gear, and Soul Blade.

Mario 64 beat Crash Bandicoot. Yeah, in the platforming games, but I still think in terms of there cart racing games, CTR was better. And that's just my opinion, because I had more fun playing CTR then playing Mario Kart 64.

BTW. why did you mention Mace anyways? It's worse than MK4. It has major slowdown EVERYWHERE. I maybe played one game of it and it turned me off because of the slowdown of the game. Any true fighting game fan would, right away be turned off at the slow down.

[Crow]

N64 wrestling games where the best, WCW/NWO World Tour and WCW/NWO Revenge were great, reaching into the crowd for weapons and putting people on your shoulder's, and the corner special moves AKI needs to take over and make WWE games again, i'd buy a gamecube if they did, i'd trade in my PS2 actually

[Pro A.]

By solid, I mean it had more games that were worth owning and playing. While it didn't own the FPS genre or the adventure genre, it won in everything else. Nintendo lost in racing to Gran Turismo, lost in shooters to Syphon Filter, MGS, Twisted Metal. Sony got the survival horror genre jumpstarted. Most importantly, it commanded the RPG genre, which is the biggest genre of them all.

[ScratchedAt]

I could argue that SNES was THE best ever.

[Rabunis]

^ by solid you mean = choppy framerate, popup backgrounds, shaky polygon count??

PS just had more games
N64 had more solid games

I have played both PS and N64 and I honestly say that N64 is the best system because i have more FUN memories playing my N64:

Conker's Bad Fur Day, Mario 64, Perfect Dark, Jet Force Gemini, Goldeneye 007, Banjo-Kazooie, Mario Kart 64, DonkeyKong 64, Killer Instinct 2 Gold, etc....

+ N64 was the home of 4 player games....easily the 'party system' at the dorms.
Agreed on every point. It's like you ripped out my brain and shoved it into your cranium.

[Pro A.]

So could I, KDawg. Okay, we have the N64 games named that were the best. Here's the PS-X lineup:

The Twisted Metal Series
Syphon Filter Trilogy
Final Fantasy VII, VIII, IX, Tactics
Tony Hawk 1,2
Resident Evil Series
Crash Bandicoot
Tomb Raider
Cool Boarders
Gran Turismo 1,2
Metal Gear Solid
Dino Crisis
Final Fantasy Anthology
FF Chronicles
Chrono Cross
Xenogears
Tekken
Soul Blade

And on and on we go

[IEatFriedPikmin]

Wave Race was good at the time. I loved that game. Also F-Zero X.

i never beat OoT. In fact the first Zelda I have really beaten is Wind Waker. Its hard for me to play 64 games again. I can't really stand them. I do not know why. I can play SNES, and even NES games still. N64 games... there is just something about them.

[Rabunis]

It's because snes games are beautiful 2D whereas 64 was crappy 3D. With fog and aliasing and etc. But it was fun at the time!

[Gopherchux]

i agree, N64 was, i mean is, the best system. 3D graphics, great games, and the gaming industry was in a very large creative streak. Now-a-days, the industry tends to stick with what works which gets extremely boring. I have so many excellent games on N64 that I still play. Namely:

Goldeneye
Perfect Dark
Banjo Kazooie
Rush 2
Starfox 64
Super Mario 64
Turok
Turok 2
Doom 64
Cruisin USA
Mortal Kombat Trilogy
Tony Hawk's Pro Skater
Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 2
and many many more

Ya, so i guess that explains it.

[Gopherchux]

o, and i think it was the first system that came ready for 4 controllers

definite boost in multiplayer fun

especially with the great first person shooters and racing games.

[dave]

ever notice how solid the structure of the n64 is. it really is durable and tough. i kept mine for games like goldeneye & perfect dark among others. i'm still playing world driver championship for about the 100th time

[DLX]

It was good, but the number of really good games is so far and few. Here's my list:

1996: Super Mario 64
Star Wars: SOTE

1997: Turok: Dinosaur Hunter
Star Fox 64
Goldeneye

1998: 1080 Snowboarding
Banjo-Kazooie
Star Wars: Rogue Squadron
The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time
Turok 2: Seeds of Evil

1999: Beetle Adventure Racing
Donkey Kong 64
Super Smash Bros.
Jet Force Gemini

2000: Perfect Dark
The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask
The World is not Enough

2001: Conker's Bad Fur Day
Paper Mario

Most years, we get four to five times that amount. Some of those games, like Beetle, are a stretch.

You should get shot in the leg multiple times with a bb gun for not including Wave Race, Diddy Kong Racing, Banjo-Tooie or any of the WCW/WWF wrestling games (considered by far to be some of the best wrestling games ever made). J/K...But still. You put in Beetle Adventure racing but you overlook San Francisco Rush and F-Zero X? Tsk Tsk Tsk.....

As far as my opinion goes, The Nintendo 64 is a very special subject to me, because It reflects a period in my life when my addiction to Video Games reached it's peak. There wasn't a game out of the 30 I owned for N64 that I didn't 100% complete, so to me the N64 was one of the most memorable systems even if most have probably forgotten it by now.

[Serene Samus]

The N64 brought me some very good times. It definatley had some of the best games ever. And uhh....yeah....N46 rulez!!! One of the greatest sytems ever, without a doubt.

And how could you foget about Harvest Moon 64? The greatest Harvest Moon ever.

[Beat Stick]

ya know N64 wasn't really that great of a system it was almost all platformer games it has a seldom few racers something like 2 rpgs and to the best of my knowledge 3 fighters. now this is an unacceptable number the n64 had very little diversity but I guess that's what made games like goldeneye stand out, when there is no competition you look solid gold. Now I do love the 64 wwf games those are just fun and starfox 64 is still one of my favorite games but between all the platformers and lack of diversity plus the castlevania games were terrible I'll take my super any day. and moving on to the shotty controller construction, who did they test this thing on? it's almost impossible to hit the z button when using the d pad the cord is super short and the joystick breaks at the drop of a hat, going back I would give N64 a 4 out of 10

[Skull Kid]

SNES > everything

[Beat Stick]

SNES > everything
except for dreamcast dreamcast is beatiful in every way

[Rabunis]

The Nintendo 64 is a very special subject to me, because It reflects a period in my life when my addiction to Video Games reached it's peak. There wasn't a game out of the 30 I owned for N64 that I didn't 100% complete, so to me the N64 was one of the most memorable systems even if most have probably forgotten it by now.
Yes


YES


YES!!

I'm in the same boat. But I only owned like 10 games

[Tien]

There's plenty of things that made N64 the best system ever.

1. There was soooooooooo many games for it that Nintendo made better sales of the games more so then the system itself.

2. It was the 3D revoulotion. The world of video gaming went from 2D to 3D for the first successful time. Nothing will ever beat that experience (except 4D if that is ever discovered).

3. The Quality gameplay was excellent. It had games like Super Mario 64, Mario Kart 64, Jet Force Gemini, and of course the best game of all time, The Legend of Zelda-Ocarina of Time.

There's plenty of more reasons that N64 is the best. Oh yeah and why I'm at it, I just noticed, Gamecube wasn't the first system to have Gameboy hookup, N64 was!!!!

You're wrong! Star Fox for the SNES had the first 3-D graphic using the awsome FX chip that was used to creat the ever so popular Super Mario 64. Oh, and I do think that the N64 was the 2nd best. The actual best in succsess rank would be the Famicom. It had a little over 720 games and sold 43 million units worldwide. It also featured timeless classics such as the Super Mario Bros. series, the Legend of Zelda, Exitbike and Wario's Woods. But in the form of the biggest step foward, the N64 rules all with the first system to have 64-bit graphics. ANother good thing about the N64 that you missed was the built in memory in the games. If you ask my personal opinion it would have been a better idea if Nintendo had kept the cartiges with built in memory and changed a little more when they made the GC. Actully another thing about the N64 is that it had the N64 DD (Japan Only). With it, you could download games off Nintendo's satalite (yes, nintendo did have a satalite!) and get awsome games like Mario Paint and even the F-Zero Expansion Pack. The DD looked just like the Gameboy player for the GC, you attached it to the bottem. Another thing that would have made the N64 the greatest system of all is if they hade put Kirby Air Ride for it. Origenaly it was going to be for the N64 but for some unknown reason, they cancled it and a few years later made it for the gamecube. Another thing it hosts some of the most great games (like you said), but some of the ones that you missed where:

1. Paper Mario - Now Paper Mario was very much above it's time since it had probbally the best graphics out of all of the N64 games. And it was the sequal to one of the most coolest game for the SNES, Super Mario RPG, which in a sense was almost 3-D.

2. WaveRacer 64 - This game was so popular that they remade it for the Gamecube! C'mon, that needs some recination!

Heh, I make my point.

:closed:

[dork]

^plagiarism

[Flaccid Acid]

You're wrong! Star Fox for the SNES had the first 3-D graphic using the awsome FX chip that was used to creat the ever so popular Super Mario 64 Oh, and I do think that the N64 was the 2nd best. The actual best in succsess rank would be the Famicom. It had a little over 720 games and sold 43 million units worldwide. It also featured timeless classics such as the Super Mario Bros. series, the Legend of Zelda, Exitbike and Wario's Woods. But in the form of the biggest step foward, the N64 rules all with the first system to have 64-bit graphics. ANother good thing about the N64 that you missed was the built in memory in the games. If you ask my personal opinion it would have been a better idea if Nintendo had kept the cartiges with built in memory and changed a little more when they made the GC. Actully another thing about the N64 is that it had the N64 DD (Japan Only). With it, you could download games off Nintendo's satalite (yes, nintendo did have a satalite!) and get awsome games like Mario Paint and even the F-Zero Expansion Pack. The DD looked just like the Gameboy player for the GC, you attached it to the bottem. Another thing that would have made the N64 the greatest system of all is if they hade put Kirby Air Ride for it. Origenaly it was going to be for the N64 but for some unknown reason, they cancled it and a few years later made it for the gamecube. Another thing it hosts some of the most great games (like you said), but some of the ones that you missed where:

1. Paper Mario - Now Paper Mario was very much above it's time since it had probbally the best graphics out of all of the N64 games. And it was the sequal to one of the most coolest game for the SNES, Super Mario RPG, which in a sense was almost 3-D.

2. WaveRacer 64 - This game was so popular that they remade it for the Gamecube! C'mon, that needs some recination!

Heh, I make my point.

:closed:

Hmm Where to start with this mess...
Ok

Ok,

You're wrong! Star Fox for the SNES had the first 3-D graphic using the awsome FX chip that was used to creat the ever so popular Super Mario 64

Star Fox did not ok. You obviously no nothing. There where many many shitty 3D games before Star Fox. Maybe not for a nintendo System, but out there.

ANother good thing about the N64 that you missed was the built in memory in the games

uh.. Many NES games had built in memory. MANY if not every single Sega Genisis, SNES, Turbo Graphics and every single damn system out there had built in memory. Of course the N64 was going to have memory, it was a given.

Actully another thing about the N64 is that it had the N64 DD (Japan Only). With it, you could download games off Nintendo's satalite (yes, nintendo did have a satalite!) and get awsome games like Mario Paint and even the F-Zero Expansion Pack. The DD looked just like the Gameboy player for the GC, you attached it to the bottem.

Yes of couse, thats why it didn't come to america and failed very quickly.

Another thing that would have made the N64 the greatest system of all is if they hade put Kirby Air Ride for it. Origenaly it was going to be for the N64 but for some unknown reason, they cancled it and a few years later made it for the gamecube

... Maybe it was cancled because they relised it was a dog shit poor game...

1. Paper Mario - Now Paper Mario was very much above it's time since it had probbally the best graphics out of all of the N64 games. And it was the sequal to one of the most coolest game for the SNES, Super Mario RPG, which in a sense was almost 3-D.

Now ok, Paper Mario was a fantastic game, and Grphics wise it was pretty cool, but to say it "probbally" had the best graphics out of all the N64 games? What about Oot, MM, the countless other amazing games?

2. WaveRacer 64 - This game was so popular that they remade it for the Gamecube! C'mon, that needs some recination!
QUOTE]

Uh... WaveRacer wasn't the only game remade, or had a sequal for the Gamecube. Lets see... Zelda, Mario Kart, Smash Brothers... and the list goes on and on and on.

[QUOTE]Heh, I make my point.

Yeah maybe if you're point is that your an illiterate moron who is got banned on his 69th post.

[emayer]

I'm not going to argue that N64 wasn't great, but SNES blew it out of the water. May I ask where Metroid was on N64? And in my opinion, almost every 2D SNES counterpart to a N64 game were better than the N64 games.

Super Mario World > Super Mario 64
Yoshi's Island > Yoshi Story
F-Zero > F-Zero X
Super Mario RPG > Paper Mario
Super Mario Kart > Mario Kart 64
DKC 1-3 > DK 64
I'll even make this bold statement:
The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past > The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time

But, all of those 3D counterparts are very good. N64 had a better Star Fox, and GoldenEye.

[Colin™]

Any system that went 5 years with no decent rpg or fighters cannot possibly be "the best system ever."

[Nights]

Sega Saturn was truely the best system to ever exist in my opinion....

I do like the Dreamcast a lot but it didn't have as many true gems as teh saturn did, infact none do..

[Xer0]

Well here is my take on it.

Best system ever? Absolutely not, no where close to it. The SNES and PS-X were leaps and bounds over N64 in terms of how good they were simply because not only quality was there but also quantity. I would rather have 5 great games that i could buy every month or so rather then 1 amazing game, which is what the 64 provided and a month is an exageration, sometimes we would go 2, 3, 6 months with nothing but shit on the shelves with PS-X getting good game after good game.

However, it is, undeniably one of the most important systems out there. It showed how you can do the ffps right on a counsel. It showed how you can make great party games. It brought the idea of 4 controllers. It gave us the 3-D platformer. Half of what we have now originated on the 64 and we owe a lot of it.

So in the end it was not anywhere near the best system however it was one of the most important ones, if not THE most important one, toss up between it and the NES. Anyway, thats my opinoin

[Pro A.]

Well, in my next column I will be telling the tale of the N64's very interesting history, about how it had Sony by the throat and it turned out being the other way around when it was all over.

[Hisham]

Any system that went 5 years with no decent rpg or fighters cannot possibly be "the best system ever."

Exactly. I agree with you full heartedly. RPG is the biggest genre in all gaming. No system can't be classified the best without having a healty collection of good RPG's.

And of course, my personal prefrence is fighters, so that's another flaw to me as well.

[INF-Urafaerie]

One Reason: Conker's Bad Fur Bay....

That game made me laugh so hard that I almost split into two. Oh my God, Rare better not **** up CBFD: Live and Uncut or they're gonna get cut.

*whispers under breath* Why the **** did they make grabbed by the ****** goulies. Gay and shitty as hell.