Demon's Souls - out NOW!

[LaLiLuLeLo]

...That's....not a good reason to lock a thread...

[frosty]

I think this is one of those games that will have good legs under it... a slow but steady seller.

[AC!D]

Originally Posted by LaLiLuLeLo

Sony's not the producer, Atlas is. And From Software is the developer.

Nope Sony own the IP. From Software developed the game for them. Atlus got the rights from Sony to publish in the US. Sony published the game themselves in Japan. When you start up the game it goes from Sony computer entertainment screen to a Sony Japan Studio Production screen to the Atlus screen. In the manual it also says published by Atlus with permission from Sony.

[LaLiLuLeLo]

Ohhhh ok. I see. Well then lets hope.

[OmniCloud]

I think it'll be a sequel...It was highly critically acclaimed. With more exposure, a sequel could be a hit.

[Lucent Beam]

It's kind of odd that Sony let someone else publish their 1st part game when it's something so unique for this generation. You'd think they'd be prouder of it. Maybe they were worried it would "fail" here compared to other blockbusters.

[cliffbo]

Originally Posted by Lucent Beam

It's kind of odd that Sony let someone else publish their 1st part game when it's something so unique for this generation. You'd think they'd be prouder of it. Maybe they were worried it would "fail" here compared to other blockbusters.

who says they are not proud of it and i doubt if the reason was they thought it would fail. they're not kids in a playground you know lol

[AC!D]

Well technically Atlus deserve a lot of credit also. They have a huge hardcore following in the west and have made and published some of the best obscure and unknown RPG's to come from Japan like Persona, SMT, Odin Sphere and many others. It might be a niche market but there is a hell of a lot more to JRPG's than Square Enix would have you believe.

Also i guess only 170 000 sales in the US would be considered a failure for such a great game unless like Frosty says its got long legs. It exceeded Atlus's expectations though because they had to ship more units to the US after the first weeks sales according to reports.

[LaLiLuLeLo]

I just wish I had some money right now, I would have been gotten this game.

[AC!D]

Originally Posted by OmniCloud

I think it'll be a sequel...It was highly critically acclaimed. With more exposure, a sequel could be a hit.

Well the 3D dot game is also from From Software so Sony still have a good relationship with them which can only be good news if a sequel is green lit.

[Syncere Styles]

Originally Posted by LaLiLuLeLo

I just wish I had some money right now, I would have been gotten this game.

I suggest you invest in a 2nd job (or a money making 1st one) and a g/f that spoils man. You stay broke.

I only wish I had the time to devote time into this game and many others as much as I do some others. There's not enough hours in a day and too many of them are spent on working.

[curryking1]

Originally Posted by Lucent Beam

It's kind of odd that Sony let someone else publish their 1st part game when it's something so unique for this generation. You'd think they'd be prouder of it. Maybe they were worried it would "fail" here compared to other blockbusters.

Lucent, it costs money to publish a game and either way Demon's Souls is still exclusive to Sony's Playstation.

And it's also co-published btw. Atlus and the SCE studios are listed in the opening. This is opposed to say Final Fantasy VII which was only published by SCEA in North America, only Squaresoft was listed as the developer (no Square Electronics Arts publishing in the North American release).

I'm not sure what place feelings like pride would have here and Demon's Souls is an asset only for Playstation regardless.

Sony has used it's Playstation mailing list to send spreads about this one also I think.

All that happened, to me it seems at least, is that they got help releasing the game in a new territory. I can't think of anything negative about that.

It's even more important to contrast this to White Knight Story by Level 5. That game has been out forever in Japan, but has not yet been released anywhere else (well, it sucks, at least from my experience... and some others I know lol... so it's OK). Doesn't even look like Atlus is willing to put it's name on the game lol.

SEGA isn't even willing to release Yakuza 3 outside of Japan, that doesn't mean SEGA isn't proud of the Yakuza series (not that feelings have a place here either, the financial outlook is pretty grim, at least based on history, for a move like that).

This shows that Atlus and SCE cared much more about Demon's Souls and releasing this in North America and they are more confident with how it will perform in other territories. Don't see what's wrong in sharing the burden in a risk like this. It is a lesser known title than say some first party titles, and even releasing in a market less receptive to these types of games. We should be happy there were even willing parties to get it out of Japan.

And of course... what Acid said:

Originally Posted by AC!D

Well technically Atlus deserve a lot of credit also. They have a huge hardcore following in the west and have made and published some of the best obscure and unknown RPG's to come from Japan like Persona, SMT, Odin Sphere and many others. It might be a niche market but there is a hell of a lot more to JRPG's than Square Enix would have you believe.

Also i guess only 170 000 sales in the US would be considered a failure for such a great game unless like Frosty says its got long legs. It exceeded Atlus's expectations though because they had to ship more units to the US after the first weeks sales according to reports.

Also, Vanillaware's new RPG Muramasa: The Demon Blade has switched developers entirely.

^Whoops, meant to say publisher for NA release.

[Kiwi]

Got this email from Atlus earlier. Here is the link for anybody who needs it.

[curryking1]

Looooooooooveeee to the Atlusssssss

Lol

[AC!D]

I love the voice of the woman in the nexus from whom you seek soul power to level your stats up

[Syncere Styles]

Originally Posted by AC!D

I love the voice of the woman in the nexus from whom you seek soul power to level your stats up

I love how fucking retarded she sounds saying her last since after you've leveled up.

"Is thou done? May thine........strenghth....blahblahblah".

[AC!D]

Yip thats it. She speaks this old English with like some kinda french accent lol. Its just so different

[OmniCloud]

lol...

"So the world may be mended..."

"So the world may be mended..."

[Syncere Styles]

Originally Posted by AC!D

Yip thats it. She speaks this old English with like some kinda french accent lol. Its just so different

Originally Posted by OmniCloud

lol...

"So the world may be mended..."

"So the world may be mended..."

It's not just her voice or her accent, but her delivery on that line that kills me. I mean, she sounds almost like she's struggling due to being at a loss for words or something, which is why I say she sounds retarded during that line. But it's not a complaint, more of a joyous folly to me. Both me and my girl get a laugh out of her whenever she says it. The game has great voice acting, but some of the lines sounds quite humorous, in a bad-good way.

Another good one is from that other broad that's over by the Priest guy that gives you holy magic. She doesn't say it anymore cuz I must've past that point in the game, but at one point, she'd always end her convo saying, "UmmmmmmBASA!" Sounds like she's cumming while eating some campbells soup. I love it. If I can truly think of it at THAT point in time, Imma definitely use that one one day in the sack so my girl can buss out laughing.

[D3adcell]

Originally Posted by cliffbo

who says they are not proud of it and i doubt if the reason was they thought it would fail. they're not kids in a playground you know lol

Cliffbo what kind of response is this? She asked a legitimate question and you try and make it out to be stupid.

I too wonder why Sony did not publish it in NA. The game already had english in it, they didn't need to localize it. They just had to make it NTSC-NA and then make the case/instructions in english.

Sony was probably afraid the game might not sell well and didn't want to take the risk themselves so instead let Atlus publish it. Now sony is only getting a share of those profits instead of 100% of them.