Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots

[Raijin]

Konami made this statement clear:

http://ps3.ign.com/articles/649/649116p1.html


But man, I want the damn thing, I just can't wait!

[Pro A.]

Its the Star Wars effect. Odds are, you won't play this title until November 2007, three years after MGS3 came out.

Real time didn't surprise me as a feature for this trailer. With the high expectations that these guys get year after year, it almost seems like a given for something like this.

[lilkoy123]

i hope they don't show a teaser like what Capcom did with RE5. I just hope.

[Pro A.]

No, Kojima has been pretty good about this. His trailers for MGS1 to MGS3 gave details about the game, but stayed ambiguous at the same time.

[GTShotoKen]

That's Fantastic! I knew Kojima wouldn't disappoint.

Hey everyone, has anyone looked at the MGS4 teaser picture again?

I just know noticed, but everyone seems to be alot older. Snake seems to be even furthur up in years, and Otacon looks more adult.

Also, who is that women on the far right side? I thought the one on the left side was Meryl, but I might be wrong. She seems to be wearing the same Stealth Camoflauge overcoat that Snake wore at the beginning of MGS2.

For all of those who have forgotten the image here's a link.

http://media.ps3.ign.com/media/714/7...g_2792482.html

[Z]

simply put, you won't know anything about the story, characters plot, etc. you will only be given some game mechanics and environments shown. every new trailer will show new or adjusted mechanics till the game comes out. the only thing we will know about the actual game are very general concepts like what kind of place will we play in, what kind of weapons will be there, what kind of hand-to-hand combat is there, etc.

Kojima-san is veeeery sensitive about his plots and twists. that is a very good thing. last thing we want is to spoil what may very well be the game of the year before it evem comes out.

who is that women on the far right side?

that's my mother-in-law....oh, sorry, wrong pic. those in the pic are (from left to right)-mind spelling:
Vamp-Myrel-whore (Riden)-Shalashaska (Pevolver Ocelot)- Otikon-Big Boss-Naomi (from MGS1's codec team).

for those who suspect Big Boss to be Solidus; actually no. Solidus has an eye patch in his left eye, while Big Boss in his right one.

[Illmatic]

Originally Posted by Gaming Guru

I just know noticed, but everyone seems to be alot older. Snake seems to be even furthur up in years, and Otacon looks more adult.

Also, who is that women on the far right side? I thought the one on the left side was Meryl, but I might be wrong. She seems to be wearing the same Stealth Camoflauge overcoat that Snake wore at the beginning of MGS2.

The two women are Meryl and Naomi, and MGS4 is set 2 years after MGS2.

This is going to be a great show. Kojima has a hard task in getting the same reaction as that of the MGS2 showing, i'll be pleased with anything they show, but alot of people won't.

I think MGS3:Subsistence is a sort of hint/experiment at what gameplay will be like in MGS4 eg. Online Mode and true third person views, as in being able to fully control the camera.

[Z]

Kojima said that due to fan demand, the story will continue after the mess at the end of MGS2- thank God. no more baby Ocelot please! he is THE MGS character! and I am sure that Vamp freak will have an appearance. I wonder how you kill that thing?...if it isn't already dead!

[tazz3]

this is going to be one great video.
this trailer is going to blow us away.
i cant waite for next week

[Fats]

Well, I'm certainly looking forward to this. It's going to look mind blowing, really.

[Theo]

Wahee!! Great news!

Can't wait to see it...This demo could definitely be Bill Gate's nightmare in every way, hehehe (just a joke)

[warmachine]

Maybe we will even see the Chinaman, Kojima-san was so keen of in MGS2, in the new MGS Episode.

For all who didn't see the Interview: (I think it was on the MGS2-Substance disc)

Instead of Vamp they wanted to implement another character called Chinaman.
It should have been a traditional chinese man with a big dragontattoo all over his back.
Remember the scene where you fight vamp by the "poolsite" where he jumps into the water?
There should actually the fight against the Chinaman take place, and everytime he jumps into the water, the dragon would release from his back an would also fight you.

I found it very interessting, and I would really like to see this character in a MGS Episode.

[EDIT]
Do you think that the main character in MGS4 is Solid Snake?
Because there are some hints in the teaser:

1. He smokes a cigar, not cigarettes. Big Boss smokes cigars!
2. In the end of the trailer you can hear Raiden taking the place of the main character

[/EDIT]

[Maya 5.0]

Originally Posted by Z

Kojima said that due to fan demand, the story will continue after the mess at the end of MGS2- thank God. no more baby Ocelot please! he is THE MGS character! and I am sure that Vamp freak will have an appearance. I wonder how you kill that thing?...if it isn't already dead!

I might be in the minority here but i personally did not like MGS2 and the fact characters from that game are makeing their return kind of saddens me.

Once again what they really should of done is continue where MGS3 left off and possibly get some Greyfox action in there so we can finally see why he deserved the title of "Fox".

[Fats]

Actually you're not alone there, many people I know didn't really like MGS2 all that much. Me on the other hand, I thought it was great. Having not played MGS3 all that much (I will do sometime though) I'd sooner see the story continued from MGS2.

[Ducey]

*drool*

I thought the first installment was one of those games that defines a genre.
I thought the second installment was an exponential improvement.
I believe Kojima-San will try his best to follow that trend. And I *hope* he will accomplish his goals.

With the sheer scope of next gen consoles, can you imagine the level of interaction with stuff? The Easter eggs?


I could care less what console this comes out on. Im a fan to the franchise

[Danji]

What? People didn't like MGS2...why?

Oh, about the topic. No shit. Sorry, but seriously I'd expect nothing less than that from Kojima.

[KiLLA2006]

i have liked all the metal gear games up to this second, though i didn't quite understand mgs2, my favorite battles were, the first sniper wolf battle in part 1, and "The End" battle in part 3, it literally took me over two hours, it was awesome!!! i stayed crept in a pile of bushes the it started to rain, then i was all muddy, with squishy noises all over my every step, damn that game was good... part for will blow our eyes out of its socket, then kojima will pay to put them back in, so we buy this game!!!

[venomv]

Originally Posted by warmachine

Do you think that the main character in MGS4 is Solid Snake?
Because there are some hints in the teaser:

1. He smokes a cigar, not cigarettes. Big Boss smokes cigars!
2. In the end of the trailer you can hear Raiden taking the place of the main character

I think he smoked a cigar because he defeated Raiden, even though it could mean something, I don't it does. And i think raiden is going to be in the game, just hopefuly not the MAIN main character.

[Z]

Once again what they really should of done is continue where MGS3 left off and possibly get some Greyfox action in there so we can finally see why he deserved the title of "Fox".

Grey Fox is the only one who was ever given the most honored codename in the Foxhound Special Forces Unit, Fox. in the original Metal Gear on the MSX system, you fight him head on. the final boss in the game is Big Boss. yup, you fight daddy as the final boss and kill him. that is why everyone is saying Snake killed Big Boss in Zanzibar.

Do you think that the main character in MGS4 is Solid Snake?

absolutely yes! Kojima has said again and again that due to popular demand, Snake will in fact be the main character. of course, you may be given control of side characters at some parts, but the main focus is on Snake. Kojima had a very bad spanking for the introducing that bit** called Riden. she was a huge slap in the face. even he is now making fun of her.

about MGS2; it doesn't really matter if you like it or not. the thing is when specifically talking about characters, MGS2 simply is one of the very few games that had great and memorable characters. MGS3 badguys were stupid. there names were even more stupid . they also repeated some moves like that gecko guy mimicking Vamp running on water. and Ocelot was an imbarrasment!
the only good characters are (mind spelling) Vulcan and The Boss. that is it. we don't even know anything about these badguys. and what is this kiddy anime ending that has every one exploding like firecrackers when they die?
but if you look at MGS2's roaster, you can see that everycharacter has a story, has a reason for doing what he/she is doing. the are absolutely no two characters sharing the same reason for holding America hostage and nearly nucking NY sky high. also, ever one was very distinct in style, fighting, weapons, etc.
MGS3 had a couple of twists at the end, but 2 was a soap opera from beginning to end. in fact, there were so many twists and turns that many don't even get the story.

at the end, not all MGS2 characters will return of course. there will be new ones. I sure hope they follow the same style as 2; having them with deep background stories, strong reasons and passions to excuse their actions, dramatic ending to each one, etc. MGS1 on PSOne did the same. it had great characters with involving stories and dramatic endings. I always cry watching Sniper Wolf's ending. I hate that bastard for shooting her right in the FACE! for God's sake man, that is her freaking FACE!!

-PS. my favorite two characters of all time: Cyborg Ninja & Sniper Wolf.


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PS3 rebirth in 7 days!

[Maya 5.0]

I beg to differ.

The Cobra unit in MGS3 were about emotions like when The Boss told Volgan that Snake still has not brought an emotion into battle.That is why the character were Pain,Fear,Fury,Sorrow.

Then we look at MGS1 and we have a cast of characters that are based on animals.These kinds of classification of the enemy give the impression of a unit so to say where as if you look at MGS2 you see enemy that you really dont care about but are just there.

Then the MGS2 story line is what really killed it though.Liquid Snakes arm on Ocelot?What?And he talkes through him?Im sorry but that alone is enough to put that game below the other two.Then there i the cyborg ninja kind of rip off that was happeneing i assume to pull in interst from MGS1 but that kind of backfired on me.Last and not least the Raiden switch.

I just think Hideo either had a good amount of pressure put on by himself to create a better game than MGS1 on a brand new system for the PS2 and it seemed nothing really has the WOW effecct that MGS1 and 3 brought.