New Kutaragi Interview.

[Viano]

First of all.. Anyone tell me how do I use google to translate to English?loL.

If not I'll see what I can do about it..

Title below, The changes of software module.


well here's my lil summary

- Games on PS3 are running at the PS3 with "basic configuration"

- Softwares will have different relationship with hardware(include none gaming) in future.

- Software module will be made inside the PS3(←my direct translation, such as OS?) so PS3 will have no problem adopting new hardware parts(this doesn't mean you can upgrade but just different versions of PS3).

- Thus two models of PS3 are actually two different configurations, thus there might be other configurations in future, such as, enhanced version of CELL, more memory etc.. (I personally believe this is for none gaming software uses) So the Higher-End model of PS3 might be released in future.


http://pc.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/2006/0607/kaigai276

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[Viano]

I wouldn't say having different configuration is that important if you already have a PS3. However, what he stated is indeed truely important on the penetration of the none gaming softeware on PS3.

"It's one ambitious Hub" That's all I can say.

[chrismt]

KK is really really wanting to usurp the PC throne. This doesn't surprise me, but in a way it does. I was not expecting any upgradability. Perhaps this means, like you said, that "the ultimate gaming rig" PS3 will be released in the future. MILR, this thread is for YOU!!

ps.. Thanks Viano for posting your own translation (sort of ) Also, you can use http://babelfish.altavista.com/ to translate the site, or type is the Watch Impress url into google and click on the translate this page link.

[yoshaw]

Here's how google translated it. Grab some headache pills while you're at it.

@ Viano: You need to see for a link called Language Tools. That's where you can have foriegn text translated.

PLAYSTATION 3 (PS3) to sale, SONY [konpiyutaentateinmento] which starts accelerating more and more (SCEI). But, the former game machine the strategy of the entertainment computer PS3 which works out one line has still permeated with is inexpressible. 　The hisashi of Representative President and group CEO the same company is directed 夛 well the strategy and vision of PS3 were asked to the wooden health person.

Therefore the computer PLAYSTATION 3 PLAYSTATION 3 which evolves

<Q> You said that from the time before, SCEI PLAYSTATION 3 (PS3) is not the game machine, is the computer. Whether or not in that sense, PS3 places HDD usually, you thought that it is the important point, whether or not, but becomes the computer of. But, it did not make the standard loading of HDD, very clear. From 2005, meandering bending, there is an impression finally of settling to standard loading.

<Hisashi 夛 it is good the wooden person> We would like to insert HDD usually, that in heart it had been decided. So, perhaps unless, the financial reason, it cannot guarantee rear 2.5 inch drive itself that much, there were various unsolved questions. By some chance, perhaps it came to the point of putting out the version which does not have HDD. So, when it does, it becomes perfectly the game machine, but I would like to do the computer, is with (that is troubled). 　There being a circumstance such as that, when you insert HDD, deciding the stomach, preparedness was necessary.


<Q> If the game machine HDD becomes economic pressure. As for HDD cost does not go down different from the semiconductor chip. Therefore, it becomes cost increase of 40~50 dollar via the life cycle of the game machine. In case of the game machine, finally price is dropped to with 100 dollar level, but when HDD standard is loaded, that becomes difficult. In other words, as for PS3 as for the price model like the game machine the notion that where you do not take?

<Hisashi 夛 it is good the wooden person> Even, the game machine [tsu] [te] it is not said there are no I, (laughing). Therefore as for PS3, different from present PS clearly the computer. 　When certainly, seeing, as the game machine in order to reduce cost, you must be it is to hard it matures. As a methodology, the semiconductor is gathered and summarized, the cost reduction that was done, so far power source capacity is decreased. You do the same thing, naturally even with PS3. 　But because PS3 is the computer, (not only reducing price) we would like to evolve. Oh with while saying, it probably will stop wanting to increase also the capacity of HDD if and, in the future, new standard keeps increasing with PC, that stops wanting to correspond. Perhaps also BD drive stops wanting to write in. Well, BD however perhaps it does not become so.


<Q> Therefore as for PS3 the computer, it is not bound in price of the game machine and restriction of the model of cost. Therefore, it places also necessary HDD usually as a computer it is possible to thinking that and, it evolves hard?

<Hisashi 夛 it is good the wooden person> Not only HDD, it is the computer even in the point which adopts all standards. As for interface, in the past it was the PlayStation private memo Ricardo slot. So, with PS3, only the slot of PC standard it is attached. 　Therefore standard, naturally, interface opening. As for me nothing (standard is grasped). Therefore the computer it is possible to have making free. Even HDD, if the person who can fumble PC [sakusaku] be able to upgrade, the [chi] [ya] [u].


<Q> The game machine locks the specifications of hard via life cycle. But, as for PS3 in order to be close to PC in the point which can change constitution softly, it is visible.

<Hisashi 夛 it is good the wooden person> Therefore as for PS3 the computer, as for certain there is no “model”, the [te], “configuration”. That this time it has been about probably to put out to clearing. When it is what, BTO (build two order) the extent which is possible to produce the list (laughing). Even, because well, when you do that, circulation is confused. If so, PS3, you try if probably to do even BTO is possible.


<Q> With interview of the time before, it was not hard, PS3, the meta format talked just is with. With PS3, if the specifications which can send the software of fixed profile have been filled up, above that the configuration of hard is possible? <Hisashi 夛 it is good the wooden person> It is like the. Therefore, which configuration all PS3. <Q> Like PC, being thought that yearly, it keeps expanding the specifications?

<Hisashi 夛 it is good the wooden person> You think that 1 years, (expanding configuration) it is possible to put out, (laughing). The joke [po] [ku] saying, however the [ru], if Dell you probably will do and, you probably will do even with Apple. If PC, when also 2 years leave (the specifications), the you overtaking [chi] [ya] [u]. Being something which it keeps changing steadily it does, the computer the [yo]? (Also HDD) 60GB becomes insufficient no matter what perhaps and, even memory becomes insufficient. There are various possibilities.


<Q> It exceeded the specifications which are necessary for the meta format of the PS3 game, there is also a possibility PS3 configuration of computing power strengthening edition coming out?

<Hisashi 夛 it is good the wooden person> It can be. If we would like to doing keeps increasing, naturally it becomes so. Of course, whether we would like to doing to somewhere it increases however it depends.


<Q> With E3 while developing the first party title lined up with [pureiaburu] and was an impact.

<Hisashi 夛 it is good the wooden person> When it is advance expectation, [pureiaburu] was said that it is not, (laughing). So, because many [pureiaburu] probably are thought come out with, no one. At least, it has gone to [pureiaburu] of that level with the wax which was not thought. 　Normally, because as for the first party protruding so however there is a problem, you think that it is responsibility, you came out of wide ones. First when there is a responsibility which shows standard. 　As for the time of PlayStation 1 there was an arcade game with respect to 1st as the software which becomes standard. Therefore, Sega which can transplant the arcade game, [namuko] was strong. The arcade game becoming standard, the game kept being made. 　So, as for latest PS3, you think that it exceeds all standards. Because of that, unless by his with conviction when this it is it shows standard, everyone thought of where that you probably will not know whether it is possible to face. As a responsibility of the first party, not only the platform, unless it shows in the software and the various parts. As for the standard, that like this is with even standard of no mosquito month ago which reaches to sale. It evolves more and more to into November PS3 sale. Perhaps, you think that it became one standard.


<Q> The third party was not conspicuous relatively. With the first party and the third party, this time in order for difference to open rather, it is visible.

<Hisashi 夛 it is good the wooden person> It is good, you attached to coming and it is bad attached, E3 was the first party [zu] paragraph. After all, the thing of hard it is well understood inside the company and, at the same time, there is the being connected of side of the global studio of SCEI. This time, with the notion that where, demonstration was made various information joint ownership, engine joint ownership and know-how joint ownership will be done. 　It was the aggregate of the studio where until now, the studio of this corporation has adhered region (every SCE organization). That about half year ago, Harrison (Phil Harrison. President and Sony Computer Entertainment Worldwide Studios) and Yamanouchi (Yamanouchi one model person. President and [porihuonidejitaru]) including, it made each studio simultaneous. Often offplot doing, in regard to E3 all studio interchanging, unless in well also it probably goes being, you did. So it does with it goes to there.


<Q> The computing power of Cell of PS3, whether 遙 has surpassed PC. It depends on also the type of computing, but operational efficiency is remarkable. But, because of that the programming model being complicated, the hurdle is high. With the third party, as for Cell as for person and Cell that it cannot be unmanageable to, in order in the person that, for [deberotsupa] to have converted bipolar, it is funny absurdly, it is visible.

<Hisashi 夛 it is good the wooden person> At even at the time of PlayStation 1, only 2D graphics as for the person who was done, “cannot be unmanageable PlayStation to, what you do, you do not know at all whether it is, because with there is a library, it is good well?”, it was the like feeling. 　Now, as for the game machine having converted to computer steadily you are not wrong. So when it does, (programming is different) until now. When processor performance of the game machine rises, it is difficult to make (the software), it is strange it is not. The clock and memory of PC, HDD improving, because it became profound long, the software make saying, the person who is said it is not, probably will be. On the computer, PS3, () the person of the programmer of the Top Gun would like to have thriving the arm.


<Q> Under present conditions, as for the development with PS3, it depends on the talent and effort of the programmer. Being complete the library and the middleware, it keeps lightening the burden of the programmer has not been in time.

<Hisashi 夛 it is good the wooden person> It arranges the middleware. But, the middleware [tsu] [te] to tell the truth it makes long the being less crowded which is made shortly the band. But so from former timesThat when you say, whether should have depended on the middleware the game is possible, so is not. At least with PS3, as for the middleware however use at such place time to be, as for here unless the allowance that unless you note, is recognized it encounters to the miserable eye.


<Q> Microsoft, has been about to actualize the framework of the programming framework which succeeds with PC, even with the game machine. On OS, it keeps gathering socket API which is standardized.

<Hisashi 夛 it is good the wooden person> Because Microsoft it has come from PC, you say that in the world of PC such it rubbed. So, when you see from me, then there is no evolution it is with you think.


<Q> In the previous game console generation, SCEI and Microsoft, as for the direction 3 of Nintendo Co., although it was different, as for difference it was not that much large. The direction where however, this time, 3 corporations are different completely it is faced. There is a dramatic difference.

<Hisashi 夛 it is good the wooden person> If the market should have activated with that, it is it is not? When it means the same thing, don't you think? from the murder combination [tsu] [chi] [ya] [u].


As for those where it is clear with PS3, it is not the game machine and the point that you aim toward the entertainment computer. Because of that, as for PS3, “common sense of the former with game machine” the part which cannot be measured is many. Those where it is important even among them with PS3 are the point where configuration is possible. In other words, existence of the configuration where hardware constitution differs is permitted. 　

Therefore, with PS3 the “60GB HDD model” is not, has made “60GB HDD configuration”. In other words, countless configuration being possible to in addition to, if you try probably to do, like PC it is the case that we would like to say that even selling with BTO it is possible. At present time, still as for variety of configuration it has not been visible, but if PS3 succeeds once and also the hardware is digested, the possibility also diversification of configuration advancing is high.

　In addition, memory was increased, strengthening edition Cell was placed, there is also a possibility evolution shape configuration appearing. In other words, as for the game machine, the specifications also the model that, with PS3 while it is deferment, it reduces price gradually, the possibility of stopping passing is high. If it goes according to thought, it may become the shape in the same way as PC, yearly, the high performance PS3 comes out. 　However, the “PS3 game” is developed following to fixed profile, it is seen that operation is guaranteed even with the lowest specifications. As for “PS3” in conventional sense, in this generation, it becomes the meaning, hardware environment which can send the software of a certain profile. 　

Because such configuration is actualized, with PS3, the design where also software structure differs until recently has been done. To PS2, as for the software which hits to OS and the library and device driver, the majority was placed on optical disk side. Because of that, unless the hardware specifications are maintained strictly uniformly, compatibility of the software could not be taken.

　Vis-a-vis that, with PS3, as much as possible software module is loaded onto the flash memory of PS3 itself. Because it has the based software group on substance side, modifying hardware specification, it can correspond by the fact that it modifies the software of substance side. With PS3, also constitution of software layer, changes largely from the traditional game machine, has become PC. Though, as for change of software layer, in Xbox→Xbox 360 also similar thing to occur, trend being.

Original Japanese version below
http://pc.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/2.../kaigai276.htm

[Viano]

actually the game software will still use the basic configuration so it won't matter for the game quality I think.

[overclocked]

Originally Posted by Viano

I wouldn't say having different configuration is that important if you already have a PS3. However, what he stated is indeed truely important on the penetration of the none gaming softeware on PS3.

"It's one ambitious Hub" That's all I can say.

Viano, how is the Japanese crowd in general towards PS3(out of interest)?

Its a well known fact that the xbox crowd screams the loudest on the net, while us calm Playstation likers is more soft, its of the topic(sorry) but do you others feel the same "trend", ie the live-hardcores bringing noice on the net?

[Viano]

Originally Posted by overclocked

Viano, how is the Japanese crowd in general towards PS3(out of interest)?

Its a well known fact that the xbox crowd screams the loudest on the net, while us calm Playstation likers is more soft, its of the topic(sorry) but do you others feel the same "trend", ie the live-hardcores bringing noice on the net?

Actually there are different kind of fanboysm or likesome toward to console in Japan. Most of japanese people choose games instead of console itself, so the price issue on PS3 is actually a problem. However, consider there are no other console that will have next gen graphics that will interests japanese gamers(sorry xbox), it is logical to predict that PS3 will still be that best seller in Japan, initially, because there's Wii.

I think, most polls of PS3 vs Wii seem to be toward to Wii which is very logical consider the success of DS in Japan and its price, but however, it's very wrong to think the "mainstream(sp?) gamers" will purchase Wii as their first next-gen console.

There are actually no problems with PS3 to be sold out at first week in my opinion consider PS3 will probably have the largest library again, new online capability etc, however the only trouble is, the price.

One major thing which seems not worth discussing about but actually imo will effect the japanese market very much more than you could imagine imo, that is the Connectivity of PS3. Because untill now there's nearly "no" connectivity from consoles(again, sorry xbox..), and everyone knows better than me on PS2.

People have to realize one thing, no matter PS3 is purchased as a media pc, game console, or even just some decoration you wanna have in your living room, it's something what you are using while sitting in your sofa drinking soda. Using the DS vs PSP analogy is really not a good idea, but most people tend to use the analogy since the hardware situations are very simular for both. However in fact, Sony has shown the graph indicated that the large majority of psp actually play their psp in their house when it's some you play anywhere but your house.. So this really makes me believe in Japan, PS3 is going to be a solid system, no matter as a internet hub, media pc, or just game console.


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Sorry if I had grammar mistakes.

P.S. I still believe Wii will sell the most at the end simply because it's targeting at different market.

[makeitlookreal]

Reading that translation really did give me a *bad* headache. Basically, this is what I get from it and my prediction about the PS3.

If Sony is going to try and give PCs a run for their money with the PS3 it has to be able to keep up with them in terms of processing power, memory, HDD, and other features. PCs are constantly improving and growing in power and so will the PS3. From the start there will probably be some upgrades you can perform yourself such as certainly a larger HDD and perhaps even RAM. In the years that follow additional verses of the PS3 will go on sale that perhaps have a faster or revised Cell chip, bigger HDD, more memory, and maybe even a faster Blu-ray drive.

However, when it comes to console games for the PS3 they will be limited to the power of the PS3's specifications when it launches. Whatever specs we see this November will be the console gaming specs for the PS3 from now until the PS4 launches.

Here is a prediction. The launch PS3 will be significantly more powerful than we realize right now. I believe there will be a few small mhz bumps (at most to 4GHZ) for the cell, a few features thrown in we know nothing about, and most importantly the RSX will be a truly custom chip. We all know the RSX is based on the 7800 or 7900. I think it will be *based* on the NVIDIA chip. But I think Sony has some hardware they are going to integrate into the chip to make it much more powerful than what we officially know today.

A secondary prediction is that it will get a RAM boost of at least some ammount.

Basically, Sony wants the PS3 to be the ultimate gaming console and be able to stand up against high end PCs. For that to be the case, even at launch, the PS3 needs to be a little more than what we know it is right now.

More and more it seems Sony is truly betting the farm on the PS3, and I think they are saving a few surprises for the world.

[Viano]

Originally Posted by makeitlookreal

Basically, Sony wants the PS3 to be the ultimate gaming console and be able to stand up against high end PCs. For that to be the case, even at launch, the PS3 needs to be a little more than what we know it is right now.

PS3 is not there yet, instead it's a strategy and step approaching it.

[chrismt]

Well I wasn't going for the ultimate gaming rig in terms of gaming itself, but in terms of an ultimate machine. With the PC, there is a certain point where improving it doesn't provide extremely noticable/amazing quality jump in games, and anything after that is future proofing it or using the PC for other extremely intensive applications (rendering).

There are differences, but getting a 120fps instead of 80fps speed on a game isn't going to affect your playing of a game much. Yes, later games require more of systems in the PC cycle, but you can also say console games always improve in quality with time, similar to PC games.

With the PS3, the lowest common denominator will always have to be catered to in terms of game quality, with load times possibly being the only things revised by different hardware configurations. Anything after that is and would be used for different purposes.

Homebrew PS3 developers will of course want the most hardware to work with if they are wanting to create intricate games, those into having as many background services and browser tabs open as possible would want to increase the RAM, those into ripping DVDs or downloading video will want more RAM and a much larger HDD, etc...

Sony seems intent on bringing freedom and creativity in with the PS3. I only hope they allow most of it to occur rather than stifling it through heavy use of DRM, closed system specifications, limited software options, etc...similar to the road MS is going with the 360 at the moment.

[Viano]

I kinda want to know if this is part of Linux' strategy..

[overclocked]

Originally Posted by Viano

Actually there are different kind of fanboysm or likesome toward to console in Japan. Most of japanese people choose games instead of console itself, so the price issue on PS3 is actually a problem. However, consider there are no other console that will have next gen graphics that will interests japanese gamers(sorry xbox), it is logical to predict that PS3 will still be that best seller in Japan, initially, because there's Wii.

I think, most polls of PS3 vs Wii seem to be toward to Wii which is very logical consider the success of DS in Japan and its price, but however, it's very wrong to think the "mainstream(sp?) gamers" will purchase Wii as their first next-gen console.

There are actually no problems with PS3 to be sold out at first week in my opinion consider PS3 will probably have the largest library again, new online capability etc, however the only trouble is, the price.

One major thing which seems not worth discussing about but actually imo will effect the japanese market very much more than you could imagine imo, that is the Connectivity of PS3. Because untill now there's nearly "no" connectivity from consoles(again, sorry xbox..), and everyone knows better than me on PS2.

People have to realize one thing, no matter PS3 is purchased as a media pc, game console, or even just some decoration you wanna have in your living room, it's something what you are using while sitting in your sofa drinking soda. Using the DS vs PSP analogy is really not a good idea, but most people tend to use the analogy since the hardware situations are very simular for both. However in fact, Sony has shown the graph indicated that the large majority of psp actually play their psp in their house when it's some you play anywhere but your house.. So this really makes me believe in Japan, PS3 is going to be a solid system, no matter as a internet hub, media pc, or just game console.


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Sorry if I had grammar mistakes.

P.S. I still believe Wii will sell the most at the end simply because it's targeting at different market.

Grammar mistakes, look at my posts hehe and your pretty safe!
The thing about PSP is my feeling also, its "my" little home console.
Maybe it will change when price goes down more but for me the connectivity is a really strong point for me.

I think Sony has grown more for me because their own studios have shown such tremendous capacity.

[Saibo]

Originally Posted by Viano

I wouldn't say having different configuration is that important if you already have a PS3. However, what he stated is indeed truely important on the penetration of the none gaming softeware on PS3.

"It's one ambitious Hub" That's all I can say.

Actually different config. is a huge saling point for me to buy a new PS3 in the future. I would love to have 2-4 GB of ram on the PS3 for indy game development and other things. This interview just further solidify KK past comment about the PS3 being a computer (even though you cant upgrade,at least you can buy a higher specs PS3 for game development,3DCG software, 3D rendering,etc).

I just want to see some Linux OS screen shots now :P

+rep

[Viano]

Originally Posted by Saibo

Actually different config. is a huge saling point for me to buy a new PS3 in the future. I would love to have 2-4 GB of ram on the PS3 for indy game development and other things. This interview just further solidify KK past comment about the PS3 being a computer (even though you cant upgrade,at least you can buy a higher specs PS3 for game development,3DCG software, 3D rendering,etc).

I just want to see some Linux OS screen shots now :P

thx,
and yes, finally there's a reason to collect all three colours...

[Saibo]

Originally Posted by Viano

thx,
and yes, finally there's a reason to collect all three colours...

Are you sure, you dont work for Sony? :P <spy>! Colored isnt important, only specs.

edit, 2 GB of ram is minium, i would like to have 8-16 GB of ram for the kind of work i do..

[xbdestroya]

Originally Posted by Saibo

Are you sure, you dont work for Sony? :P <spy>! Colored isnt important, only specs.

edit, 2 GB of ram is minium, i would like to have 8-16 GB of ram for the kind of work i do..

Saibo Sony has indicated that chip clockspeeds and RAM amounts won't change going forward in different models, so I wouldn't hold out unless they actually at some point *do* release a workstation equivalent.

If it gets to that point of mainstream popularity though, I think that formal workstations will become available before PS3 fills that role.

@Viano: Love the 'home market' insights!

[Sephiroth_VII]

If done the right way, I cold easily imagine that in a few yeas, I'd be able to go and annd purchase a 4.2 GHz cell, 2 extra gigs of RAM, a new HDD adn a 16x blu-ray-drive.

Imagine the possibilities!!!!

[Viano]

Consider the possibilities that were done on psp what do you think Lunix on PS3 will do?

I wonder if there will be a default messenger from Sony.

[lshian]

I think the the devs will follow the present PS3 specs. Even though we upgraped the PS3 to 2 gigs rams or 4ghz of cell or bunchs of cells. Unless the PS4 announed the devs will follows the news specs, just work like the Amiga.

[Nameless]

I think all of this is wishful thinking...
Look at the PSP, Home BREW increased piracy and this issue was addressed with firmware updates on the OS.

Sony has no intentions of allowing users to run custom software or emulators on the console. If the platform is too open it creates opportunities for piracy.
It's unfortunate that people exploit any opportunity they get, because it would be cool if the PS3 was more open...

Also, if you think Sony wants end users to start cracking open their consoles to upgrade the RAM or processor you are dreaming... Perhaps Sony will release updated versions, but I doubt there will be any significant hardware upgrades, because this would alienate the early adopters.
Personally I would be pissed if Sony released a PS3 later down the road with a faster Blu-ray drive, faster cell or more RAM. I plan to purchase the console at launch and will be paying a premium as a result and would hate to be punished from a pricing and hardware perspective for being an early adopter. Sony will need to approach this area very carefully; you don't want to upset the hardcore audience, because this group is the most loyal...